Years of Deceit: US Openly Accepts Bin Laden Long Dead



By Gordon Duff/STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Conservative commentator, former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry’s claim that bin Laden escaped with Bush help was a lie.  Now we know that Pappas was correct.  The embarrassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific.  He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn’t nuts is finally saying what they have known for years.

However, since we lost a couple of hundred of our top special operations forces hunting for bin Laden after we knew he was dead, is someone going to answer for this with some jail time?  Since we spent 200 million dollars on “special ops” looking for someone we knew was dead, who is going to jail for that?  Since Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney continually talked about a man they knew was dead, now known to be for reasons of POLITICAL nature, who is going to jail for that?  Why were tapes brought out, now known to be forged, as legitimate intelligence to sway the disputed 2004 election in the US?  This is a criminal act if there ever was one.

In 66 pages, General Stanley McChrystal never mentions Osama bin Laden.  Everything is “Mullah Omar”now.  In his talk at West Point, President Obama never mentioned Osama bin Laden.  Col. Pappas makes it clear, Vice President Cheney let it “out of the bag” long ago.  Bin Laden was killed by American troops many many years ago.

America knew Osama bin Laden died December 13, 2001.  After that, his use was hardly one to unite America but rather one to divide, scam and play games.  With bin Laden gone, we could have started legitimate nation building in Afghanistan instead of the eternal insurgency that we invented ourselves.

Without our ill informed policies, we could have had a brought diplomatic solution in 2002 in Afghanistan, the one we are ignoring now, and spent money rebuilding the country, 5 cents on the dollar compared to what we are spending fighting a war against an enemy we ourselves recruited thru ignorance.

The bin Laden scam is one of the most shameful acts ever perpetrated against the American people.  We don’t even know if he really was an enemy, certainly he was never the person that Bush and Cheney said.  In fact, the Bush and bin Laden families were always close friends and had been for many years.

What kind of man was Osama bin Laden?  This one time American ally against Russia, son of a wealthy Saudi family, went to Afghanistan to help them fight for their freedom.  America saw him as a great hero then.  Transcripts of the real bin Laden show him to be much more moderate than we claim, angry at Israel and the US government but showing no anger toward Americans and never making the kind of theats claimed.  All of this is public record for any with the will to learn.

osama_bush_capturedHow much of America’s tragedy is tied with these two children of the rich, children of families long joined thru money and friendship, the Bush and bin Laden clans.

One son died in remote mountains, another lives in a Dallas suburb hoping nobody is sent after him.  One is a combat veteran, one never took a strong stand unless done from safety and comfort.  Islam once saw bin Laden as a great leader.  Now he is mostly forgotten.

What has America decided about Bush?

We know this:  Bin Laden always denied any ties to 9/11 and, in fact, has never been charged in relation to 9/11.  He not only denied involvement, but had done so, while alive, 4 times and had vigorously condemned those who were involved in the attack.

This is on the public record, public in every free country except ours.  We, instead, showed films made by paid actors, made up to look somewhat similar to bin Laden, actors who contradicted bin Ladens very public statements, actors pretending to be bin Laden long after bin Laden’s death.

These were done to help justify spending, repressive laws, torture and simple thievery.

For years, we attacked the government of Pakistan for not hunting down someone everyone knew was dead.  Bin Laden’s death hit the newspapers in Pakistan on December 15, 2001.  How do you think our ally felt when they were continually berated for failing to hunt down and turn over someone who didn’t exist?

What do you think this did for American credibility in Pakistan and thru the Islamic world?  Were we seen as criminals, liars or simply fools?  Which one is best?

This is also treason.

How does the death of bin Laden and the defeat and dismemberment of Al Qaeda impact the intelligence assessments, partially based on, not only bin Laden but Al Qaeda activity in Iraq that,not only never happened but was now known to have been unable to happen?

How many “Pentagon Pundits,” the retired officers who sold their honor to send us to war for what is now known to be domestic political dirty tricks and not national security are culpable in these crimes?

I don’t always agree with Col. Pappas on things.  I believe his politics overrule his judgement at times.  However, we totally agree on bin Laden, simply disagree with what it means.  To me lying and sending men to their deaths based on lies is treason.

Falsifying military intelligence and spending billions on unnecessary military operations for political reasons is an abomination.  Consider this, giving billions in contracts to GOP friends who fill campaign coffers, and doing so based on falsified intelligence is insane.  This was done for years.

We spent 8 years chasing a dead man, spending billions, sending FBI agents, the CIA, Navy Seals, Marine Force Recon, Special Forces, many to their deaths, as part of a political campaign to justify running American into debt, enriching a pack of political cronies and war profiteers and to puff up a pack of Pentagon peacocks and their White house draft dodging bosses.

How many laws were pushed thru because of a dead man?

How many hundreds were tortured to find a dead man?

How many hundreds died looking for a dead man?

How many billions were spent looking for a dead man?

Every time Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld stood before troops and talked about hunting down the dead bin Laden, it was a dishonor.  Lying to men and women who put their lives on the line is not a joke.

Who is going to answer to the families of those who died for the politics and profit tied to the Hunt for Bin Laden?


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126 Responses to "Years of Deceit: US Openly Accepts Bin Laden Long Dead"

  1. Jay Are  January 27, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    With all due respect for your service to our country Mr. Duffy, although I have believed for some time that Bin Laden is dead, I don’t believe that we have been able to confirm it. I certainly do not believe that President Bush would perpetrate such a cover up. Now, if you were to ask me about some others in the administration, I might believe they could.

    Bin Laden being killed or captured would have given President Bush a lot of political capital, it certainly would have made him very popular with the public. And then there is the evidence of audio and video from Bin Laden, which in todays day and age can be faked pretty well, however no on has been able to definitvly prove the rants are fake.

    I see in your bio that you are a Vietnam Vet, and actual grunt on the ground Marine, so I know you have seen lots of things that I haven’t. But until we see definitive proof of his death or capture, I believe it is prudent for the military to operate under the assumption that he is still alive.

    Thank you for your service to our country,sir.

    Jay Are

    • Jay Are  January 27, 2010 at 3:26 pm

      I apologize for getting the last name wrong, sir. It should not say Mr. Duffy, but Mr. Duff.

  2. Masood K  January 2, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Ordinary US citizen doesn’t know or cares to know what is being cooked up by the Government in US. What they care about, as a priority, ever increasing unemployment rate with very adverse economic and social consequences. Shouldn’t the Government spend all that (WAR) money for the economic well being of its citizens

  3. S M Hasan  January 2, 2010 at 8:14 am

    I think the greatest enemy of the US is its own government. I know hundreds of American……….all of them are finest people, humane,loving, kind and sensible. The government is perhaps not made of American people.

    • R Butler  January 27, 2010 at 2:50 am

      You are right Mr Hasan Sir. The US Govt is made up of Zionist jews and Israeli Americans, dual citizens. Yes, not true Americans. Their allegiance is to Israel and the Talmud, not to America. Check out iamthewitnessdotcom for all info on these guys.

  4. white noise  December 27, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Feels great to find kindred minds 😉

    When I posted this … July 02, 2006 …not so much 😉


    They stole 2 elections… the first by perverting the supreme court, second the system…nothing happened…Then 9-11 and a war based on a 1000 lies + the treacherous hoisting of a CIA agent… nothing happened… ENRON…zzzzzzzzz….they proceeded to shred the constitution, kidnapped imprisoned & tortured the world over…nothing…spied on one & all, fired top US attorneys, destroyed evidence… nada… conducted Katrina’s thinly veiled ethic cleansing …zilch…seeing how compliant we all where…they took us to the cleaners !

    & now we are asked to…


    “In most communities it is illegal to cry “fire” in a crowded assembly. Should it not be considered serious international misconduct to manufacture a general war scare in an effort to achieve local political aims?” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.” – Cicero, 42 B.C.

    “We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane.” – Jules Carlysle

  5. Mike  December 26, 2009 at 3:21 am

    Bin Laden dead? No way! I have iron clad proof he is alive!

    Also I have proof that a band called Rammstein went to the moon before Apollo 11!

    See, its all true, you can see it with your own eyes! 😛

    How many of you out there have seen the movie “Wag the dog”? How many know how advanced graphics are these days? They could fake an alien landing tomorrow and if the papers reported it as being TRUE, would you believe it because you saw it on tv and read about it in the paper?
    Why do people question where I get my sources, yet never question the papers/tv if they say “an unnamed source said…….”

    Learn about deceptions and false flags!

    • duffster  December 26, 2009 at 10:00 am

      I actually watched the Rammstein rocket take off.  It was cool.  Bin Laden was with me.  Bush was driving.  Was it Harken or Zapata oil….I can’t remember.  It was one of those companies that launder money for terrorists, though.  They picked up the bill.  We ate at Denny’s.


    • white noise  December 27, 2009 at 10:56 pm

      Lookin’ for Ben ?
      check this out 😉;cbsCarousel

  6. goldie  December 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    As a veterab if WW2, U.S. Marine, female, I feel we, the citizens of this country never really know what is happening. Lies from Bush and now many, many lies from the existing person in the white house. My son sent me this information, I lived thru those years, but I honestly can say I never heard that Bin Laden was dead. Seems like it was not reported in any news, I watch Fox daily and now I am disabled and 85 years old, not employed. My son has been telling me these things, but some I believed and some not. But, I did not agree with Bush on the border at all. All I can say now is God Bless America

    • duffster  December 22, 2009 at 10:28 pm


      We are hear doing our work….research….and making government accountable because we care what happens to our kids.

      Several of us here have lost children and know the pain of it.  Some of us have fought in wars and know the game….that war has become.

      This is not WW2.

      This is WWOil.


  7. Bush Hater  December 22, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Hopefully the troops that vote Republican understand why the Republicans support the military, it’s to make themselves and their friends rich.

  8. John  December 22, 2009 at 4:07 am

    While I do think Bin Laden is dead, I’m afraid I don’t see ANY proof in this article. Or any admission of such, by anyone of note.

    Very misleading to suddenly claim the US is openly accepting that he’s dead, when you can’t provide any concrete evidence of such. Just your opinion, informed by the fact that they’re no longer making him their focus.

    • duffster  December 22, 2009 at 8:16 am

      OK…lets say you are right and he is alive just turned invisible 8 years ago and everyone believes he is dead…

      he has no followers

      only a few fools in the US who spend their children to die looking for ….the easter bunny.

      your synthesis is flawed


  9. John  December 18, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    I didn’t mention Gordon Duff, in a speech I once made. Smoking gun proof that he is dead and couldn’t have written this fairy tale of propaganda.

    • duffster  December 18, 2009 at 10:32 pm

      Wait til nobody has seen me for 8 years first.

      Perhaps you might want to disappear also.

      I think many would enjoy that, based on your level of wit.


  10. John  December 17, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Levinson, you are part of the problem of the USA, you are part of the tribe, and you are NOT an American.
    Learn about people like Levinson here- It’s free, and feel free to send it to anyone you want.

    Its the key to unlock the door. It’s up to you if you want to flounder around and listen to people like Levinson, who is a double agent working for another group of people, or figure it out for yourself, just who the enemy of the USA really is.

    Read IN THEIR OWN WORDS what they are working towards, what they think of you and your country, and understand what the answers are to the worlds foremost problem.

    Read and learn what famous people have said about these people. It is real history that has been CENSORED from you America. They are hoping you will not read this, and that you will censor yourself! They have worked tirelessly in the media to portray themselves as victims so you never see the truth.

    As America decends into chaos, planned chaos by them, arm yourself mentally and physically so you can fight to save your family, and country.

    Learn their tricks.

    Understand they will try to turn US soldiers against Americans, and if that fails the plan is to bring in FOREIGN TROOPS as “peacekeepers” to fight Americans into submission.

    Who owns the Federal reserve bank? It’s not you America. It’s members of the tribe. They have used and abused Americans, but those days are quickly coming to an end.

    Figure it out now before its too late.

  11. John  December 17, 2009 at 1:43 am

    There will never be world peace until these people are taken care of-

    Go to bootcamp here- is the place to be for real Americans. You double agents working for the tribe are not welcome. All other races are welcome and encouraged to join the fight, as we are all in it together.

  12. Michael S Levinson  December 16, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    When 9 / 11 happened Bin Laden denied any involvement. When we chased the taliban and al Qaeda out of Afghanistan, and captured mnay lap tops,not one hard drive had a word about 9 / 11.

    Bin Laden more than likely is dead, or, he is living in total silence behind walls in a svelte Pakistan house that is safe for him. That is a possibility.

    I have always held the view that in a court of law he could not be convicted because 9/11 was a crime he did not commit, nor can it be shown that he even knew about the coming attack in advance.

    Having said that, I invite you to where you will find I am an independent candidate for president. Last month I had 55,000 hits, so the site is taking on a life of its own. I bring to the political table a Vehicle for World Peace and provide enough on the web site for all who come to take a test drive.

    I invite you

  13. 4ndy  December 16, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Obama’s “Change” thus far:
    Filling a cabinet full of Wall-St advisers
    Extending Guantanamo tortures
    Sending more unemployed youngsters to their deaths
    Selling your country to a handful of bankers
    Continuing the hunt for a man deader than Elvis Presley?
    the list goes on…

    We need to find a better way of running society than letting a few people the big media tell us are the best hope make all the decisions for us.

    • 4ndy  December 16, 2009 at 9:58 am

      Damnit, I wanted to make a convenient link for this article, only to find someone beat me to it on a similar Daily Mail one.

    • duffster  December 16, 2009 at 5:51 pm

      Elvis is dead?


  14. Philip  December 15, 2009 at 2:59 am

    How do you folks explain General McChrystal’s testimony to Congress saying that killing bin Laden is key to defeating Al Qaeda? This was just a few days ago.

    • C  December 15, 2009 at 8:07 am

      Because Mchrystal would NEVER lie right? LOL! Do you blindly trust anyone with a uniform?

    • duffster  December 15, 2009 at 10:24 am

      We should be asking him this question.

      he is the one fabricating.  gates isn’t going along as you  note.


    • Philip  December 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm

      I wore a uniform for 8 years and have worked with politicians and intelligence people. I’d trust a general before either of the other two types any day.

      It just seemed that this story concluded Bin Laden was dead because McChrystal didn’t mention him in a previous document. If he’s conveying that Bin Laden is dead by not mentioning him, them in a sense, you believe him then.

      I think you only believe what you want to believe, rather than objectively considering the actual information available. Why would you immediately count one thing as a lie and another as a hidden truth from the same man?

  15. Mike  December 15, 2009 at 2:46 am

    The makers of “Loose Change” protect the real culprits of 911. Why would they miss so much information? They put the blame on the US government. It goes deeper than that. They did not put the biggest information in their video on purpose. It should be re-named “Loose ends”, because it has plenty. has far more info.

    People follow Alex Jones, but have no idea who he really is, and who sponsers him.

    Check out for an expose on ALex.

    You gotta ask who thes people are. Who are they married to, who funds them, who do they link to, who promotes them. Its a gigantic criminal network, and they are laughing at you, while they send you and your fellow countrymen off to fight.

    They take over both sides….pro war, anti-war……look at who the people are, kick over a rock.

    • Blakmira  December 15, 2009 at 4:13 am

      With your reasoning, I could make a truther documentary about 9-11 but it wouldn’t be very good and I’d miss some information. Which would make me, what, a protector of the guilty? An accomplice? Part of the inside plot? That’s absurd.

      But since you think Alex Jones is a spook, I see where you’re coming from. Smear all the messengers, even your friends are enemies, paint everyone guilty, cause confusion. I suppose you think Ron Paul is one of “them” too as he’s a regular guest. Yawn.

      You’re either deliberately working against people finding the truth or you are really, really confused and live inside of a soundproofed closet.

    • C  December 15, 2009 at 8:08 am

      No blakmira, that would make you a useful idiot.

  16. blakmira  December 15, 2009 at 12:49 am

    What person not living under a rock and alert to what’s really been going on *hasn’t* known that Osama bin Laden’s been dead for years? That he’s always been just a scapegoat for 9-11 and the poster boy of the scary hateful Muslim bogieman to keep the “war on terror” going?

    I did get a good laugh at the commenter above accusing 9-11 truthers as being the perpetrators of 9-11, i.e., the makers of the documentary Loose Change. lol Yeh, the old trick of blaming the messengers to divert from the real villains. Just the act of Cheney ordering NORAD to stand down makes him a mass murderer and all those who played along are his accomplices.

    The only “truth” coming from the guilty is that they may have been a bit inept at stopping it from happening. (M.O.: admit a tiny bit of the truth and then deny the rest)

    If you think Obama hasn’t been playing along with Bush & Cheney’s “official” version to continue the war on terror and keep the American people in fear of “terrorists,” you’re deluded. That’s one of this current admin’s (bogus) reasons for going into Afghanistan — to get the so-called perpetrators of 9-11.

  17. someone  December 14, 2009 at 10:27 am

    this will only stop when there are consequences for those who perpetrate this. When the vets in this country vow to be come consequences for those who violate the constitution, whether in national office or those who break down doors in support of unconstitutional laws, this will stop.

    I don’t see a whole lot of those kind of people out there in the US. Therefore, the government acts, and will continue to act in their own best (monied) interests, not yours.

    As long as you keep paying your taxes, you are paying them to do this. Get it?

  18. Mike  December 14, 2009 at 6:03 am

    911 was an inside job, but probably not who you think.
    Most of the so called truth movement is also subverted by the same people! Bush and Cheney were involved, but those guys had no real power, they are just the front poodles to take any blame should you not fall for the “guy in a cave did it” scam.

    Check out for a free video that goes way deeper than “Loose Change”. The Loose Change creators totally ignore much of the hard evidence of WHO was behind the 911 attacks, and the reason is they are part of the same network of people who did 911.

    There are many people out there trying to tell you who did 911, and whats going on with the wars and the economy etc. 90% belong to the same group of people. They have infiltrated both Democrat and republican parties, the pro gun and anti-gun lobbies, and vitually both sides of everything. They always lead and gain control, and they are a very tight knit community that thinks they can control the information you receive, and thinks they can control how you think. They love getting people to fight each other while they work in the background formenting wars and stealing nations wealth. Thats why they have flooded America with hispanics, it’s part of the plan for a future race war which they will promote through their media, the mainstream media.

    So far, they are correct, but its changing because of the free flow of information on the net. Get the information while you can as they are the ones that want to stop free speech, bring in hate laws meaning you can’t criticize them (like they did in communist Russia, talk of them ment death, or a Gulag), they are also behind the push to BAN GUNS and disarm America so Americans are easier to handle once they crash the economy. You will do as you are told…… as far as they are concerned. They are double agents, pretending to be “Americans” but they work for someone else.

    They are both communists and capitalists, thriving in both systems, as they control them. They do prefer communism because it’s ultimate control. They love to promote democracy, as this is where they gain control over a nation. After this comes communism, then despotism.

    They know how powerful the net is, and they have their agents all over it trying to get people going in all directions to confuse and scare people.

    Unite with fellow Americans, and citizens from other nations that know very well who this enemy is. They are not a new enemy by any means, and they use the same gameplan over and over because it has worked so well in the past.

    Just because some websites are well known means nothing, they promote their own and totally ignore/slam any websites that pull back the curtain and expose them for what they are.

    Free educational book available here-

    They do NOT want you too see this sort of information and will try to make you turn away from it…. Why? Whats in this book that is so damaging? Read for yourself.

    The hard cover copy is $30, the PDF $10….but you get it for free. If you feel the need to donate, please go to and pay the man who created it what you think the information is worth.

    America has been the most heavily propagandized country in history.

    Time to break free. Enough American blood has been spilled over lies.

  19. Rudy  December 13, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Go to the FBI’s top 10 most wanted and you will still see bin Laden there. But the strange thing is that there is no mention of him being wanted in connection to the 9/11 terrorists attacks. It is thrown in a catch all generality of other terrorists acts around the world. The most horrible terrorist attack on American soil is brushed under the rug with numerous other terrorits attacks around the world.

    And if that’s not unbelievable enough, when the FBI was asked why the 9/11 attacks are not listed, they replied that there was no eveidence connecting bin Laden to the attacks.

    Check out David Ray Griffin here, citing this information and much more

    9/11 was an inside job. Once most people wake up to that reality, maybe we will see a change. False flag operations happen all the time. This was not the first, and I believe (sadly) that it won’t be the last.

    • duffster  December 13, 2009 at 5:27 pm

      David is one of our writers.


  20. Dan Holland  December 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    After studying and following the 9/11 story for at least five years I have come to the conclusion that it was very dangerous or impossible for the Bush/Cheney (secret)government to carry out the whole 9/11 terror plot in the name of Osama Bin laden when at the same time letting the great Satan stay alive and be an active player in the world wide media game. I can’t imagine the Bush/Chaney planners of the attacks would have taken the risk of being checkmated by Bin Laden in an unsuspected clever move that they would not be in control of. I mean: after the whole world has been conditioned day in and day out to the fact that Osama is the great mass murderer and enemy of the free world, and then letting him keep the opportunity to come from behind the woodwork on the world stage with a very clear Hi-Def video and in which he openly, with a lot of solid information and evidence proves that he and Al Qaeda are totally innocent to the largest foreign attacks on the hard land of the USA in history.
    Or to make it even worse for the US administration and include the information in a dramatic deathbed confession, becouse there was a lot of evidence that Bin Laden was in the final stages of his kidney disease.
    Isn’t this not very similar to the Kennedy assassination, were lee Harvey Oswald was denied to prove his innocence and expose the real perpetrators?

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