By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Rumors of an upcoming terror attack to be blamed on Iran are moving around the world, “backchannel chatter.”  The primary suspect is Israel who is said to have a number of small “suitcase” type nuclear weapons, some primarily “dirty bombs,” possibly supplied secretly by a previous US administration.  These devices are in the “40 ton” range, highly radioactive, extremely small and can be engineered to leave the signature of a primitive device.  They were originally designed for use against Soviet armor and troop concentrations in Europe if a massed attack on NATO were to occur.  Current conventional systems have made this type of weapon obsolete.

We have been told that federal authorities have interviewed, on video, a prominent individual with specific knowledge of the possession of this type of weapon.

This won’t be in the news.  All that “every day folks” will see is a story here or one there that don’t make sense.  Why would “ultra-Liberal” Senator Chuck Schumer, nightmare “anti-gun” nut, extreme lefty and staunch New York democrat turn on the president?  In fact, why are extreme liberals and conservatives all attacking President Obama and, less visibly, our military leaders, all at the same time?  Who is orchestrating this oddest turn of political events in recent history?  Why would the Pentagon ban Reverend Billy Graham’s son from a prayer breakfast as an “Islamophobe?” 

Dad, the famous Reverend Billy Graham, primary spiritual advisor to every American president since Harry Truman held different views.

Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a “stranglehold” during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives.
This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain,” the nation’s best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.
“You believe that?” Nixon says after the “stranglehold” comment.
“Yes, sir,” Graham says.
“Oh, boy,” replies Nixon. “So do I. I can’t ever say that but I believe it.”
“No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something,” Graham replies.

Consider this report as a form of “innocualtion,” meant to prevent an unseemly accident.


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Israel has never been in more trouble today, not from any imaginary Arab armies or a “holocaust” from Iran, a country with only minor defensive weaponry, a 4th rate military power, for those who really pay attention to these things.  Israel has gotten in trouble because of “chickens coming home to roost.”  Americans and Europeans have been conditioned by the press, yes, Israel controls the press in the US, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, to ignore ethnic cleansing and war crimes in Palestine.  Years of news and “infotainment” along with movies and TV series, always depicting Palestinians as crazed murders has done its job, covered mass murder in ways that Josef Goebbels could never do for Hitler.

Things started to go wrong for Israel when top military leaders became increasingly suspicious of 9/11.  None will openly admit to it, but as years have gone on, and Iraq and Afghanistan could no longer be called real security issues for the US, an unspoken movement toward lending a suspicious eye to Israeli involvement in 9/11 has festered.  Israel’s hand in propagandizing our news has become too obvious for trained observers to miss, with the direction not “pro-Israel” but looking more like a country covering for crimes. 

This is the potential list:

  • Possible complicity in some part of 9/11 with or without help from groups in the US and one other Middle Eastern nation known to secretly finance Israeli operations but pretending to be a “blood enemy” of the Jews
  • Israeli complicity in massive financial crimes in the US, including engineering of the sub-prime mortgage collapse as an operation meant to destabilize the United States.  That current financial reforms meant to prevent a repeat of this, pushed by President Obama (and military leaders) is opposed by groups financed by the Israeli lobby is a “smoking gun.”
  • Terrorist attacks in Iraq, Russia, Iran and Pakistan carry clear signs of involvement of one or more intelligence agencies being involved, among them Israel.
  • Israeli political machinations backed by a massive propaganda and disinformation campaign attempting to justify an unprovoked attack on Iran, disinformation including “holocaust” rhetoric and clearly falsified intelligence on Iran’s non-existent nuclear program are an almost perfect repeat of the same operation that pushed the Bush administration to mistakenly attack Iraq.  Note this classic example of disinformation propaganda, conditioning “the west” to expect a dirty bomb attack:  Debka/Israel Hoax and, more “cover” still from Israeli stooge Mikhail Saakashvili. 
  • The “Israel Project” actually has run ad advertisement warning of exactly such an attack.  You can see an RT (Russia Television) video about this video, labeled “crazy” and “propaganda.”  A national survey mentioned indicates that 70% of the American people because of Israeli propaganda, now believe Iran currently has nuclear weapons.  Many prominent lawmakers advise “the Israel Project,” a group with no other purpose than to condition Americans to expect terror attacks and to “pre-blame” Iran.
  • Nuclear threats made by “extremists” in Israel against Western Europe went unheeded and the desired outcry of support for an attack on Iran never materialized.  Israel would never have allowed prominent sources in its defense establishment to voice “crazy threats” to “nuke Rome” unless some purpose were served.
  • Highly orchestrated attacks on the Obama administration, now finally working in close association with top military leaders, is meant to destabilize the US.  Moving threats against the US, the engineering of a new market collapse by Goldman Sachs, an ineffective attack by Israel on Iran, cutting off all oil to the west or attempts by Israeli controlled media giants to forment civil unrest in the US are all “on the table” and being pushed forward.


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The deteriorating situation in Iraq and Afghanistan have tied down so many resources that our defense capabilities, the contingency response that our defense planners have spent years creating and over a trillion dollars financing is a shambles.  We are trucking supplies hundreds of miles through enemy territory to resupply in Afghanistan, that and flying everything thousands of miles across Russia followed by more trucking, hundreds of miles across enemy territory again.  In the process, we are paying hundreds of millions of dollars a year to our own enemies, simply to keep ourselves in Twinkies and Ho Hos.

America is saddled with an incompetent and corrupt ally who has hopelessly embroiled us in his endless and ineffective plots, all with a massive subtext of drug dealing, selling weapons to the enemy and double dealing with foreign intelligence services.

How we got here is no secret and military leaders are unhappy.  America got herself led into these disasters for the good of, not Israeli security but a series of intrigues, more like a chess match, playing country against country, while raking in cash selling weapons to everyone, including the US and India, but, less overtly, to Iran and the Taliban as well.  These are some of the worst kept secrets in the world.  Even President Obama knows, heaven forbid.


With massive control of news organization, half our top retired military leaders taking regularly paid “junkets” to Israel and 363 members of congress indicating an “unbreakable bond” with Israel, no matter what they are caught doing, and they have been caught so many times, starting with the 1956 Suez/Sinai invasion, the 1967  USS Liberty attack,  which helped Israel sell the idea that they were attacked when quite the opposite is true, the belief is that that a new “false flag” attack can be covered easily.

Who could blame Israel, poor beleaguered country, the only “democracy” in the Middle East surrounded by vicious and dirty Arabs trying to sneak in and cut throats of small children in school?

We have already seen the stories about Iran’s planned “holocaust’ and how they are going to invade Israel, a technical impossibility” and set up gas chambers, start making soap and lamp shades out of Jews.  If anything warns America that an attack is coming, hearing both “holocaust” and seeing Charles Schumer attacking a democratic president should be warning enough.

The rumors are that the weapons are in place in Europe and the US.  “The usual suspects,” Arabs, Persians, Pakistanis, some kind of Islamic terrorist group has either been recruited, invented or is being thawed out.  News stories are in place and with 9/11, film crews are ready to be onsite.  Witnesses will be briefed, all to say, “yes it was an Arab dirty bomb, we saw them, Middle Eastern looking, they must have bought it from North Korea.”

That kind of story would hit the news within seconds from “stunned survivors” who will suddenly disappear, returning quickly to “you know where.”

Glenn Beck will cry.


Americans have the rare privilege of seeing the GOP, NRA, Fox News and the Tea Baggers aligned with 250 or is it 300 or 400, we aren’t sure, members of congress that have signed a letter promising to support Israel, in this case, against the interests of the United States.  The names of those involved is difficult to find.  A search of 100 stories on this subject has failed to give a list.  Blog after blog is requesting the list of those who signed the letter but even Israeli papers don’t print it.

Sites claiming to list the members signing now show “FORBIDDEN” or “NO LONGER AVAILABLE.”

What we do know is that congress’s most liberal members, those most outspoken for gun control and all of those listed by the Tea Bag movements and GOP as the most liberal and “unpatriotic” of our politicians are now lined up with the supporters of Goldman Sachs and all, the most conservative and most liberal, are signed up against the President and the Pentagon, aligned with Israel.

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, the entire “liberal” and “conservative” political hoopla of the last few years is turning out to be a subterfuge to keep Americans from uniting together to regain control of their own country, a control that, for awhile, ran our military, our intelligence services and even the oval office.

Now it runs only Congress, no party, just those addicted to AIPAC/Israeli funding more than allegiance to the United States of America.

What they may earn us through this “moral flexibility” and indifference to allegiance to their own country is another major terrorist attack.  These same members of congress will receive the call, be told how to vote, what to say and exactly what they get in return, same as with Iraq.

Ah, the foibles of living in a democracy for sale to the highest bidder!


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  1. Frog  June 25, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Nilly I carried a nuc when in the militray that could fit in my Rucsack and it didn’t weigh two tons. I swam with it, jumped with it and carried it on my back. It’s yield was only a 100 thousand pounds of TNT, but it would spoil a lot of peoples picnic afternoon. Just a little info and this was in the 60’s. Have a nice day.

    Former Frog

  2. Gordon Duff  May 26, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Nilly Bob,
    We have three nuclear arms specialists on staff at vets today, all of whom simply disagree with your outrageous statements. Our funniest nuke, according to Larry, was the nuclear hand grenade. Nobody could throw it outside blast range. The most famous tiny tiny nuke is the Davy Crockett, our shoulder fired nuke, very well known and easy to look up.
    Your posting is offensive and false. You know absolutely nothing about weapons. Quote on the Crocket, far from our smallest nuke at 76 pounds, not 2 tons.
    “The Davy Crockett was one of the smallest nuclear weapons ever made by the United States. Built in the late 1950s, and designed for the battlefields of Europe to stop a possible Warsaw Pact invasion, the warhead looked like a watermelon, being only 30 inches long and weighing about 76 pounds. From a portable tripod launcher, it could be fired at the enemy as close as 1,000 feet or up to 13,000 feet away. It was a weapon for nuclear war at close range. ”
    Other weapons weighted one third as much.

  3. Nilly Bob  May 26, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    The smallest suitcase nuke ever seen by anyone was the size of about 3 lockers and weighed almost 2 ton. If anyone says any different they are lying trying to fear-monger

  4. Daniel Vel  May 5, 2010 at 8:24 am

    Mind-boggling happenings and astonishing predictions.
    Feels really sad over what’s happening around the world.
    Mr.Duff you are pulling the roots of this gigantic tree of ‘Zionism’.
    We are brainwashed and programmed in our country to watch and think in a certain way only.Atleast we have Mr.V.T.Rajashekar,Editor, Dalit Voice,a great intellectual who has been warning us about catastrophes which really occurred and is taking place before our own eyes.So as you. Hats off to your bravery.

  5. S.C.C. / LIBERTY GUARD  May 4, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Help us put some pressure on the bad guys before they use these oil rig events to (dominoe effect) collapse the world’s economy to form the financial restraints of ONE BANK, ONE STARVING WORLD, NEW WORLD OF GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT BY THE BANKSTER-TRANSNATIONAL MEGA-CORPORATIONS OF GLOBAL PIRATES AND THEIR ALLIES OF COMMUNISTS AND NAZIS!!! (THE ANSWER Below – see link)

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    The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease. The disease is called “Gonorrhea Lectim.” It’s pronounced “Gonna re-elect ’em,” and it is a terrible obamanation.

    The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many victims contracted it in 2008…but now most people, after having been infected for the past 1-2 years, are starting to realize how destructive this sickness is.

    It’s sad because Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just coming on the market called “Votemout.” You take the first dose in 2010 and the second dose in 2012 and simply don’t engage in such behavior again; otherwise, it could become permanent and eventually wipe out all life as we know it.

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  6. Fayyaz Shah  May 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    The Statue of Liberty now needs to be set up on the Moon cause the American Liberty has been stolen by the very people who were saved by the US from becoming soap material during WW2. This lot has always managed to piss off their benefactors in the near and distant past.

  7. paschn  April 30, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Nice to see the sheeple of the United States of Israel slowly getting a hold on their ears and pulling their heads from their asses.
    If the fecal matter hits the rotating device in the near future…a few things you might want to remember after we bleed to take back our nation;

    REMEMBER all the “Renfields” in D.C. that whored themselves out to our oppressors,(Federal reserve, IRS, Wall Street, Israel).

    REMEMBER the Treacherous Evangelical groups that not only sent tens of millions to the terrorist nation of Israel but brain-washed the addled into believing those Khazar parasites were God’s chosen!

    REMEMBER not to listen to some fool who says we must “move on”, “get past” all this…They bled us for decades….it’s our turn to bleed them out of the gene pool or your grand kids will get the SAME GREASING we’ve gotten!

    The swine have been expelled from nation after nation for CENTURIES….it didn’t work! Christian leaders can use the same DNA technology to track and trap them that they use to manufacture “race specific” viruses to, (as Satan’s side-kick, Kissinger preaches), get rid of the “useless eaters”, (insert GOYIM).

    Most importantly….EDUCATE your spawn to the evil that leads them to slaughter and die for multi-nationals and new Khazaria! Support them so they REFUSE to be their murderous lackeys!

  8. Vivvi  April 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm


    check this out … the words NINE 11 hidden on the us one dollar bill. only stupid ppl believe the official story. Please pass this video on to wake up more dummies.

  9. michael pugliese  April 29, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Another forgery, indymedia style
    by Tia Friday, Feb. 23, 2007 at 10:44 AM

    This article made it into all the mainstream news sources except for one paragraph that was added at a later date. Its long since been discredited.
    Any guess as to the paragraph that was recently inserted?
    To their credit, this has been deleted by most of the IMC’s that originally published it. Cleveland- its your turn!

    One clue of the forged nature of this paragraph is the lack of compliance to standard rules of grammar:

    “One alleged radiation hot spot on Manhattan’s east side has the potential for becoming a political hot spot: A strong radiation spike from the area of the Israeli Embassy. Officials would not comment on why
    they thought that particular area allegedly showed such a stunning peak in radiation”

    Here’s a mainstream media version of the same story:

    Whats missing, children?

  10. michael pugliese  April 29, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Source found?
    by Bison Boy Monday, Feb. 05, 2007 at 9:54 AM

    I’ve googled a bit for the sources of this article. I found some interesting things.

    The GAO report in question was issued on September 21, several weeks before the Indymedia article. Within two days of the original GAO report, a local Congressman posted an article which claimed, among other things, that the “[…] area initially flagged by the inspection, amounting to a 1-foot-square patch of dirt, emitted about one millirem of radioactivity per hour.” Not exactly a high hazard. Plus, the seemed to be quite clear that the list of actual radiation sites was likely to remain unreleased to even the congressman. (I sure haven’t found it.) So where did the allegation involving a location near the Israeli embassy originate?

    Googling for “alleged radiation hot spot on Manhattan’s east side” gives only one other result, which is an October 10 article at http://p4.forumforfree.com/-vp3878-mindscapes.html which on casual inspection seems to be a verbatim source for the CIMC article. This page includes a (dead) source link to http://www.halturnershow.com/RadiationHotSpotsInNYC.html. This in turn seems to be a reference to Hal Turner, who has an interesting and very up-to-date wikipedia entry. Apparently he’s a white supremacist. An amusing (alleged) quote from his website is listed here:

    If they do, it will rightly mean the total destruction of the Catholic Church. Non-Whites can never be Pope because they are not of God’s Chosen; Jews have been trying to steal the title of “God’s Chosen” for centuries, but those of us who understand the Bible know that only whites constitute God’s Chosen. It says so in the Bible, Book of Genesis

    I wonder if he might have an axe to grind in regards to Israel? 🙂

    So anyway, I couldn’t find any other mentions of the Israeli embassy allegation. It looks like this article is based on a mostly legitimate story, into which Hal Turner (or some source upstream from him) has inserted a bit of clever propaganda. Not quite clever enough, IMHO, because the inserted paragraph regarding the embassy breaks the writing style of the rest of the article. It’s a good effort, but not good enough.

    add your comments

  11. tim  April 28, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Semper Fi 0300
    Don’t start the revolution without me

  12. Redeemer  April 28, 2010 at 6:02 pm


    It is because of Christian idolatry that our people are in trouble.

    Our Lord God YHWH warned us of this repeatedly!

  13. spktruth  April 28, 2010 at 12:17 pm


  14. spktruth  April 28, 2010 at 11:27 am

    AMAZING!!! FEINGOLD EYES WERE GLAZING OVER, OBAMA STUTTERED, PALENTY IS A FRAUD. THEY ALL KNOW THEY HAVE MANY NUCLEAR WEAPONS. this is why we can not trust the White House, Congress and the Senate. They are lying in our face. Iran does NOT have a nuclear weapon. The IAEA says so. We are being lead by Isralie Firsters who are denying they have committed acts of war against the US and we did nothing while our sailors died in the water, our ship destroyed. The US government MUST come clean. We must ask every candidate for federal office…do you support Israel? Will you admit Israel has nuclear weapons? If they refuse to state their opinion..if they refuse to address THAT issue, you should understand they are an Iraelie Firster AND THEREFORE WILL COMMIT TREASON WHEN ELECTED.

  15. Mihail  April 28, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Question from the gathering: Rabbi Rabinovich, what about the various religions after the Third World War?


    Not only would the existence of a priest class remain a constant danger to our rule, but belief in an after-life would give spiritual strength to irreconcilable elements in many countries, and enable them to resist us.

    We will, however, retain the rituals and customs of Judaism as the mark of our hereditary ruling caste, strengthening our racial laws so that no Jew will be allowed to marry outside our race, nor will any stranger be accepted by us.

    (Note: Protocol of Zion No. 17 para. 2, states: ‘Now that freedom of conscience has been declared everywhere (as a result of their efforts they have previously stated) only years divide us from the moment of the complete wrecking of that [Hated] Christian Religion. As to other religions, we shall have still less difficulty with them.’)

    We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced to let the Hitlerite bandits sacrifice some of our people, in order that we may have adequate documentation and witnesses to legally justify our trial and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals, after we have dictated the peace.

    I am sure you will need little preparation for such a duty, for sacrifice has always been the watchword of our people, and the death of a few thousand lesser Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed a small price to pay.

    To convince you of the certainty of that leadership, let me point out to you how we have turned all of the inventions of the White Man into weapons against him. His printing presses and Radios are the mouthpieces of our desires, and his heavy industry manufactures the instruments which he sends out to arm Asia and Africa against him.

    Our interests in Washington are greatly extending the Point Four Program (viz. Colombo Plan) for developing industry in backward areas of the world, so that after the industrial plants and cities of Europe and America are destroyed by atomic warfare, the Whites can offer no resistance against the large masses of the dark races, who will maintain an unchallenged technological superiority.

    And so, with the vision of world victory before you, go back to your countries and intensify your good work, until that approaching day when Israeli will reveal herself in all her glorious destiny as the Light of the World.” (Note: Every statement made by Rabinovich is based on agenda contained in the “Protocols of Zion.”)

    The Jewish Encyclopedia:

    “Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.

    Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition):

    “Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia… In the middle of the 8th century the ruling classes adopted Judaism as their religion.

    The Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 10, (1971) relates the following about the Khazars (Chazars):
    “Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries A.D. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism.”

    Academic American Encyclopedia, Deluxe Library Edition, Volume 12, page 66 states:

    “The Khazars, a Turkic people, created a commercial and political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia during much of the 7th through 10th centuries. during the 8th century the Khazar aristocracy and the Kagan (King) were converted to Judaism.

    Collier’ s Encyclopedia, Volume 14, page 65 states:

    “Khazars [kaza’rz], a semi-nomadic tribe of Turkish or Tatar origin who first appeared north of the Caucasus in the early part of the third century…in the Eighth Century Khaghan Bulan decided in favor of the Jews and accepted Judaism for himself and for his people.

    The Cadillac Modern Encyclopedia, page 822, states:

    “Khazars (khah’-zahrz), a S Russian people of Turkic origin, who at the height of their power (during the 8th-10th cent., A.D.) controlled an empire which included Crimea, and extended along the lower Volga, as far E as the Caspian Sea. The Khazar Royal Family and aristocracy converted to Judaism during the reign of King Bulan (768-809 A.D.) and Judaism was thereafter regarded as the State Religion.

    Arthur Koestler (The Thirteenth Tribe).

    Kevin Alan Brook (The Jews Of Khazaria).

    Adam Shear (The Kuzari And The Shaping Of Jewish Identity, 1167-1900).

    Shlomo Sand (The Invention of The Jewish People).

    BIBLE (REVELATION 2:9,3:9).

  16. I, Phonius  April 28, 2010 at 6:42 am

    One of the most frustrating things about Israel is that they could’ve made the whole thing work and work impressively. Unfortunately for them (and everyone else too), that possibility wasn’t good enough.

    Oh well, now I guess the only move left is a false flag much grander in scope than 9-11. I’ve often wondered whether they’ve had real nukes secreted here in the USA for a long time.

  17. Michael  April 28, 2010 at 12:09 am

    This would be Israel’s last dance. They know they are toast. They don’t have USA support for a strike on Iran. Iran is not going to stop with their nuclear program. There is mounting suspicion about Israel’s involvement in 9/11. They are out of options. If they strike Iran, Israel will be cast away by the international community. If they don’t strike Iran, they would be a lamb in the lions den. Farewell, Israel.

  18. Rob  April 27, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Mossad will try the suit case nukes if they have to. It is certainly on the cards.

  19. Rob  April 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Yes and the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was totally demolished by a guy with a parked fertilzer truck…….or that men with ruck sack ‘bombs’ can take out trains on 7/7 by blowing the trains up from ‘underneath the carriages’…..I could go on and on….

    If anyone is intesested, check out my new networking website for Truthers. We need more members- http://www.trutherdating.com

  20. Mick  April 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    There are a few things worth expounding upon here. We are all told it is wrong to group and categorize people. Yet when people categorize you as the goyim incapable of human thought that doesn’t seem to be a problem. When people band together and take the Kol Nidre oath every year which exempts jews from lying to the goyim and voids all oaths and contracts, it seem s a bit like grouping and categorizing people to me. Is there something I am missing here?

    We are all told about the juju that all nations turning against the chosen ones will be smitten. This is constantly relayed by electronic televangelists such as Jerry “kill all the muslims” Falwell, and others. America being led through the nose by Israel all these years doesn’t appear much of a blessing. It seems the treasury is constantly being looted and people get dead on a regular basis.

    As a matter of fact the New English Bible with the Apochrypha doesn’t say that at all. It quotes Jesus as saying the Israelites are the sons of satan and all nations who ride with her will be destroyed. That is what it says in a nutshell. That doesn’t bode well for us does it?

    It is kind of like that with the Muslims. They are all being stereotyped as terrorists and need to be killed off. When we talk of dropping the nukes on Tehran so they can’t have nukes it is kind of painting with the broad brush isn’t it? The nuclear fallout from such a raid will eventually deform and kill most of them eventually. That is kind of stereotyping people don’t you think?

    Following this line of Hebrew thinking has led us to the point where there are people in the government that sound just about ready to brand veterans as potential terrorists in waiting, only a matter of time don’t cha know. Sounds stereotypical to me.

    Matter of fact I get the impression there a those who just love America being made a fool of.


    Man Coulter who is real name is Levinsohn likes to quote Lenin also and how they have to be ruthless and all.

  21. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Nelson, my second reply here…google corruption county florida, click on Orange County Commissioner arrested for bribery. This was posted less than 30 minutes ago! I’ve been following this story since it mirrors the county I live in. I can only hope someone here is paying attention, not holding my breath! but, we’ll see.

  22. GODShandgrenade  April 27, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    All the ranting, and railing, complaining and crying about the current situation of the world is the direct result of man’s SIN and rebellion to GODS WORD. The evil men who have been filled with satan, and want you dead is because HIS creation, man, has chosen to do things his way, vis-a-vis satan. IF we would all REPENT, and turn from our wicked ways, the GOD of all creation, would heal our land and deliver us from evil. Without our prayer, and repenting, GOD can’t do anything to save us.

    We, man, is responsible for our own deliverance, our own salvation, Choose you this day, whom you will serve either GOD, or satan. Choose you this day, LIFE or DEATH.

    Time is short, GOD will only hold back the ultimate evil from happening for so long, if HE doesn’t see repenting from HIS creation, then there is no reason not to allow satan to do his ultimate evil and take as many people to HELL with him. In the process there will be suffering and death like you can’t even imagine.

    STOP, complaining about what is happening, or is about to happen and TAKE ACTION! REPENT, PRAY, READ THE WORD, SEEK HIS FACE!

  23. Gordon Duff  April 27, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Interesting opinions. What do you base this trust of Israel on? Want to tell your stories to USS Liberty survivors? How about 9/11 survivors?

  24. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    TooooShay, Mick!!! (my father spoke French, not I. Seevooplay, pardon moi…for the spelling).

  25. Mick  April 27, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    TR would you be kind enough to explain to us what it is like to drink human blood? We are all curious.

  26. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    T.R.; Your intimidation-tactic does NOT threaten me, coward, state your name, rank and serial number.

  27. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Paul, clean-up the lingo. Harness your anger and frustration. Find a homeless vet and help him or her. The treasonous traitors will be tried according to what’s left of our laws…we will not become them.

  28. Hrabe Kolovrat  April 27, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    Why worry?
    12/21/2012 will finish us all!

  29. Hrabe Kolovrat  April 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    How right you are!

  30. TR  April 27, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Thoughts and opinions expressed in these comments are fully explained in the book,
    Bigfoot, Lochness Mosters, Reptilian Alien Bases on the darkside of the moon, and other stupid Myths and legends.

    As for the opinion of a potential false flag: highly probably
    As for the opinion that the Jewish nation is behind every conspiracy: PURE FICTION

    Be careful to curse the nation of Israel with your bilge. Where there are evil men in all nations, condemnation of a group, ethicity, or race of people is the evil of Satan.

  31. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Roy, I’m doing the best I can; tho, feeling a bit like Mayor Curley.

  32. AS  April 27, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Peace be upon thos swho follow the right guidance,

    Is the man arrested with the dirty bomb is ex-CIA director in Algeria, Andrew Warren directly linked to the next dirty bomb plots in Europe. He was arrested in Norfolk two days ago, officially for sexual abuses… He wrote a book, like Netanyahu for 9/11 describing in details the next 9)11 or ‘dirty bomb plots’ linked in Algeria to ‘Operation November 1950’ or french-algerian-israeliss false islamic groups responsible for the civil war over there during the 1990s…

    Wwe have as well abnormal mouvements of the NATO-US european APO army, in Germany, south and Italy, north of the country, are you aware of something special ?

  33. Canaanites love Pagans  April 27, 2010 at 6:08 am

    Keep smoking that weed Maori boy. You would still be living in grass huts and eating your neighbor for dinner if it wasn’t for the British colonists, and you know it. Your attitude as a people towards the colonists that brought to NZ first world is no different to the modern so-called Jew’s attitude to society…always the accusor.

    The British colonists that came to NZ were part of the true Biblical Isrealites…Not the Jews of today, who are the Seed of Satan through Cain as well as Khazarian hordes (and certainly not the Maori of NZ). Modern Jewish DNA haplogroups are the same as Arabs for goodness sake!!. It cannot be more clear. True Israel moved from Mesopatamia through the caucus region to Europe. Israel was to become a company of nations, not just one as in the state of Israel, etc etc).

    There is no such thing as Universalism in the scriptures. I suggest you interpret the original Greek texts of the New Testament, and you will find the constructed word “Gentile” actually means “ethnic”. Therefore Paul was speaking to the ethnic group of Isrealites. The Jew bought and paid for universalism in modern churchianity.

  34. Louise  April 27, 2010 at 3:17 am

    Good to see that the whole of American is not asleep to whats going on. I have worked in the media and marketing for years and have been watching all of this from the sidelines.

    Israel saying it will bomb Iran if America does not stop its nuclear program, Obama and his call for sanctions and McCain saying in Congress that America should bomb bomb bomb Iran. All these people are going to look good when this sudden attack happens because they did what they could to save America. We have been PRE-SOLD on the idea that a nuclear attack on America should be blamed on Iran.

  35. faak  April 27, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Quick, save a bookmark, look at this site, archive…….your ass- stare into the screen and preach to the converted and we will solve all the problems of the world. How long have these same repetitive discussions been going on? The people of Okinawa are standing up and hitting the proverbial streets. The biggest and most serious demonstrations in the world agaisnt the invasion of Iraq part 2 were in tokyo some years back. They tried very positive and realistic diplomacy with Iran years ago here, even sending a small naval flotilla to Iran. now they are being gassed from the air relentlessly. King Bill was sent over here by his butcher queen to enforce it all. Everyone is falling asleep, warily looking up at every new atrocity, every day save few . When selected populations are so fatigued and sick from the gassing that they will not fight back, three days of extermination gassing will do the trick. Perhaps they will just make these brave family oriented people who actually care about women and children and old people sick enough permanently to create a select number of young slaves as they kill off all the old folks that can still remember Koizumi’s treason. Nuclear bombs are nothing compared to chemical warfare over thousands of square miles. Property intact! Good luck and keep on blogging!.

  36. PAUL  April 27, 2010 at 1:21 am


  37. Kate Eddy  April 27, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Mick, something about that plane crash doesn’t pass the smell test…”the groundswell of uneasiness in Poland”…may bear fruit. …And, to all a goodnight!

  38. steve h  April 27, 2010 at 12:08 am

    I wonder how many countries have the capability to launch a nuke off our coast and detonate 200 miles above the center of our country? The resulting Electromagnetic Pulse would be devastating. Maybe that would be the coup de grâce.
    Sometimes, as I “wake up”, I wish for the ignorance of sleep.

  39. Steve Johnson  April 26, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Amazing article yet again.

    Searching for Mordechai Vanunus’ famous photos of Dimona after reading this article, I found that they are being systematically removed from online, compared to what existed 3-4 years ago.

    I DID however find this AMAZING archive of info that will no doubt be tagged for removal soon. Please archive this material EVERYONE before it disappears.


    Also more info here:



  40. new_york_loner  April 26, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    If the chatter is genuine, authentic and reliable and if Obama is perceived as an existential threat to the Jewish state, then the Mossad might try for a double play?

  41. WRAY EDWARDS  April 26, 2010 at 10:18 pm


    3. ICBM






  42. new_york_loner  April 26, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    First time poster….. I tried to submit a post earlier, but it failed to go through; a Road Runner “could not find” screen came up when I hit the submit button.

  43. Frank  April 26, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Why would they use a dirty bomb when they have the nukes to take out a city, or several cities? Come back to Jesus! You will meet Him soon, either way. You can be His, or you can be judged by Him and into the lake of fire with you.

  44. JJ  April 26, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    How about “where is our MOses”??

  45. JJ  April 26, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Oh, they’re here…..they just like to keep breathing.
    Hint: where are JFK, Martin, and Bobby??

  46. JJ  April 26, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    I just read an article today that showed missiles on trains, semis, and boats…..right next door and ready to be launched and easily hidden.

  47. Mick  April 26, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    That is a gigantic fail there Robert. Too many fallacies here to even address.

  48. Jewey McJew  April 26, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    I’d love to comment but I’m running late for a meeting of the Elders of Zion. It takes a lot of time and effort to run the military, the media, congress, the presidency, the democratic party, the republican party, the communist party and of course the capitalist financial system. And why do want such power? How else can we get away with putting the blood of gentile children in out matza?

  49. JJ  April 26, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Agreed…..time for a false flag to take our minds off our failed govt??
    Possibly a nuked Israel from the Iranian persuasion??
    Oh, maybe they’ll nuke us??
    I’d be alert to a large defection of congressmembers and administration defecting any states.

  50. Mick  April 26, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Good stuff Mike Peters. Here is some more along those lines.



  51. JJ  April 26, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Your view is refreshing.
    Many fail to recognize the modern day Zionist Jews of Israel are not the Biblical Jews God references giving the holy land too.

  52. Mike  April 26, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Duff says “some people are slow”…..too right….if people could get past Zionism they will see that it goes much deeper than that! The quest for a world government has been going on for thousands of years, and lately Americans, British, Australian, Canadian, you name it, have been HELPING them achieve it.

    WW2 was a LOSS for the free world. Half of Europe was taken over by communism, which is now over ALL of Europe as the EU. It’s not hard to see who is behind all this, look at the key positions. For such a small world population, this group sure has people everywhere.

    Learn about the SAYANIM NETWORK. There is no way these creatures can do what they do without millions of fellow creatures helping them.

    America is being setup to be the “New Germany” that the world hates, so when a bomb or major event happens, martial law, war on the streets etc, most will say GOOD….not understanding that America is the last country really standing in the way of world government.

    The enemy is in the gates, I just hope Americans can figure it out like the other 84 countries in history that kicked these people out 109 times!

    You would think we would have learned our lesson by now.

    US troops need to get home and defend their country from UN thugs and Blackwater style mercs that will soon be on the streets of America.


  53. Mick  April 26, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    I forgot to mention this one also. The dead Polish president’s brother is now going to run for preisdent of Poland.


    Killed Polish President’s brother to run for election in June
    By Jane Burgermeister
    Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the twin brother of Poland’s President Lech Kaczynski, said on Monday he would be run for president as the candidate for the opposition Law and Justice party (PiS).

    Kaczynski is widely expected to sweep to victory at elections on June 20th on the groundswell of growing uneasiness in Poland about the plane crash that killed Lech Kaczynski, two opposition presidential candidates, key opposition party MPs, the central bank governor, the national security chief and the army heads.

    The decision by Kaczynski to continue to pursue elected office recalls the behaviour of Robert Kennedy after the assassination of his brother John F Kennedy in 1963, who attempted to regain control of the US’s central bank, the Federal Reserve, from the private bankers.

    The death of the Polish central bank governor in the plane crash two weeks ago has also sparked a tussle over control of monetary policy of Poland with the pro-euro, pro-IMF Tusk seeking to wrest bank reserves needed for currency interventions to keep the Zloty weak and Poland’s exports competitive.

    Tusk’s government has signalled Poland might now join the eurozone soon.

    In addition, Tusk said last week that he will now sign a deal blocked by Lech Kaczynski to allow Gazprom to supply Poland with 100% of the gas it needs for the next 33 years in spite of the fact that huge natural gas reserves were discovered in Poland in April.

    “The tragically curtailed life of the president, the death of Poland’s patriotic elite, means just one thing for us: we must finish their mission,” Kaczynski said according to Reuters.

    “Poland is our great shared obligation. We are required to overcome our personal pain and to take on this mission despite the personal tragedy. That’s why I have taken the decision to run for the presidency of Poland.”

    The announcement that Kaczynski has decided to run will be a blow to Prime Minister Donald Tusk and his presidential candidate Bronislaw Komorowski, who moved quickly to declare himself acting president and fill key positions.

    The controlled mainstream media is playing down Kaczynski’s chances of winning, citing various polls.

    But recent polls have shown a surge of support for the opposition party and many Poles expect Kaczynski to score a resounding victory in June – as long as the elections are fair.

    The election of Kaczynski will be a huge setback to the bankers hoping to absorb Poland into the eurozone and complete their political, economic and military take-over of the European Union and USA before triggering a financial meltdown, and launching a third world war over Iran with the initial support of Russian Prime Minister Vladmir Putin.

    If the bankers fail to subdue Poland, then the Globalist project to impose a totalitarian, centralised government on the Europe using the EU, IMF, WHO and other supra national organisations could suffer a deadly blow.

    The banksters geopolitical plans for a New World Order would be suffer defeat on the Polish battleground.

  54. Mick  April 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Did someone ask where are the voices of MLK, John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy? You forgot Abraham Lincoln, the Russian Czar, James Garfield, Congressman Charles Lindbergh who fled to Britain after his son was kidnapped, Andrew Jackson (attempted murder who he blamed on Rothschild and some that are not tell well known that didn’t take too well to Rothschildian democracy such as the James gang who decided to rob some banks and distribute the money back to the farmers who were losing their land taken by the railroad.

    We also have the Earp boys who were also shot up by the red sash gang (red sash for Rothschild’s red shield) some of the first organized crime in America. You don’t hear to much about this in history class in brain washed America.

    Perhaps the Lakota Sioux were right when they called the coming of the European, the end of living and the beginning of survival.

  55. Robert  April 26, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    America has a number of enemies of which principally Judeo/Freemasonry is the #1 enemy of both this country and mankind. The forces of “Organized Naturalism” who conspire to establish a “One World Satanic Judeo/Masonic Dictatorship” have for at least from the time of the French Revolution bragged about their plans which now are nearing their completion. The Muslim nations and religion are also the enemies of Western Civilization and when and if they ever gain control of the West, without a doubt they will enforce the dictates of the Koran which teaches that there are only two possibilities, conversion to Islam or death. The pagan nations of China, India and Africa are pawns or cannon fodder for the “Organized Forces”; these nations and peoples will be manipulated and used by the “Organized Forces” as cannon fodder. But Russia, which is both Atheist in practice and also a Masonic Nation, is, along with Israel, our most serious enemies, and between the two who are both vying to lead the “New World Order” you will find all the elements of our supposed “terrorist” elements. Both Israel and Russia are behind near all that is happening and in many instances they co-operate towards the demise of the West. Get ready for what mankind has never imagined or ever seen.

  56. mike peters  April 26, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Kiwi Allegiance is a collective of people with a belief in universalism.Universalism is the theology that all mankind will be saved.People matter most. The time of measuring a man, by the measure of how much he owns,is over. As is the Gregorian calendar that has monopolized our minds, keeping our heads down and earth bound, chasing the dollar. Calendars of our earliest civilizations knew about our galactic universal connection to the moon, stars, sun and planets. By adopting a lunar calendar we take the first step, to tuning in to our destiny. How we perceive ourselves is paramount. My father (who had his Maori tongue beaten and shamed from his consciousness by an authoritarian state government education system) and my Grandfather who was a Maori Ratana Church Minister here in Aotearoa New Zealand,told me.God came over in a cloud and inside that cloud was a ball of fire,and he spoke to T.W. Ratana the prophet the same way he spoke to Noah.He said he had been to the four corners of the world and Aotearoa New Zealand was the Alpha Omega the beginning and end, the land of the rising sun, and it was up to the people of this land to show the world how to live in love peace and harmony. Kiwi Allegiance is acknowledging the law of time and the galactic research institute for all there efforts in spreading the global peace plan, one world, one people, and one peace under a calendar of synchronicity. Every time we use the incorrect labels for marking time,Mon,Tues…January, February…we as a collective for the masses invoke old bad karma, tapu and disrespect for our ancestors. Kiwi Allegiance is taking every possible means at hand to share its philosophy without pointing any fingers, remembering when you point the finger there is three pointing back at you, from your own hand. It’s about the honesty of the chemical alcohol and the dishonesty surrounding other chemicals. Over half of all violent crimes committed are through drug deals gone bad. If you are not allowed to be honest with all chemicals,then you can’t start the healing process.It will stay in the shadows where people can blame and justify, and not have to own it. We can all blame and justify, I stabbed my neighbour because I didn’t have my morning coffee”. The honesty of the chemical alcohol along with pornography has desensitized the human race “I slept with him/her I was drunk”. The belief system of money, owning stuff, power and greed is the learnt measure used to value honour and be respected, is taught in our schools,kindergartens businesses every area of our existence is being governed by a calendar designed to stress and frustrate the masses,while all global structure has been created using the cycles of time and space too be manipulated by those that have gained the knowledge. Cycles of time natures law of time synchronicity. Maybe they can’t see there own disorder because if you live in a world of insanity, then unless you are able to step back and be given another perspective you wont know or be able to comprehend.Time and planetary cycles, go hand in hand with our existence of being. The need to educate is paramount. Like helmet laws Kiwi Allegiance believes those that ride decide. I personally will teach my children too wear a full face helmet. The public are kept blind and passionate for Sports and Alcohol,which contributes to disconnecting us from ourselves. Elite sports, teams and the media border on in sighting riotous behaviour, with newspaper and television advertisements and quotes, “so and so said he was going to take so and so’s head off in the next game. A bums on seats “money matters most”policy fuelled with the honesty of the chemical alcohol. Our mission is to value every body. The bulk of this Power and money have been accumulated by a minority who’s daily life decisions, affect mankind negitivly. The people of this land Aotearoa New Zealand (KIWI‘S) share a spirit that has not been conquered, the great British Empire tried to conquer this land and failed.The spirit of this land was corrupted not conquered and its measure of being valued, honoured and respected was flipped, I call it the flipflop.The point in time, where the people of this land, and its measure of wealth and power, was flipped. The measure of a man was measured by grace of deeds and mannerism, commonsense, children come first. Our people of this time were the Maori people, they were proud and fearless, they were grateful with every utterance of each word that passed there lips, so is the way of the language. First landing of the European sailors was in the bay of islands, where they set up shop.Remembering these sailors weren’t respectable family men, they had practiced there first contact with the locals of other pacific islands before they arrived here. After seducing the men with alcohol, they then proceeded with there organized plan of trading.The measure of “people matter most” was flipped because of a need for the chemical alcohol and stuff, the sins of our fathers, is that we whored out our wives, sisters and daughters to fill the need of our induced addiction. Our women were revered throughout the world. The first people of contact with these sailors learnt quickly the ruthless ”money matters most” policy. They were a northern tribe called Ngapuhi.Kiwi Allegiance is here, please help this nation heal the world. Kiwi is what we locals call ourselves it doesn’t matter if your born here or not, white, black green yellow or blue if you have the kiwi spirit of Good Orderly Direction, fairness, commonsense stuff, “people matter most” then you are kiwi of this land. Trench warfare was another first to be invented here, the mathematical calculations and the magnitude of effort and knowledge needed, has been compared to the Egyptian pyramids and the knowledge of the stars was/are amazing. Our strength of spirit is being realigned with this collectiveness, the trenches of today are being embraced, and people are the glue. The Gregorian calendar and mans desire to own and control, have lead us to this point in time, where we re-evaluate our priorities. Kiwi Allegiance is about reconnecting with ourselves, the Moon, stars Sun and planets by following an ancient calendar of the Moons.Alpha Omega beginning and end Aotearoa New Zealand. The 13 moons Calendar can be viewed at 13 moons.com .-We also feel the labels for marking time, ie Mon,Tue, etc and Jan, Feb etc dishonour our ancestors and enforce the prison hologram of the Gregorian calendar, which was imposed in 1582 by Pope Gregory xiii. Imposed so the indigenous conquered people could pay rent,taxes on the 20th of every month.While the church of the day eliminated any and all vessels of knowledge, containing natures planetry time cycles.We need to expose those that have been accumalating from the planetary time cycle knowledge.So the collective of and for the masses will have a chance of an easier comprehension. Reprogramming generations of a faulty measure of man, mankind. We have been human cash cattle long enough. 13 lunar cycle and the cycles of time. They would have us believe they burnt all the books and records of, recorded measures of time. Yet back tracking events in time we see following the cycles that our Moon, stars, Sun, planets and time have followed parallel numerous earth bound events that have been of financial gains to the minority of the people of this time.For any further information about this collectiveness please email [email protected]. ALPHA OMEGA AOTEAROA NEW ZEALAND THE REAL ISRAEL PLEASE COME DOWN UNDER THE LOWEST WILL BE THE MOST HIGH UNIVERSAL LOVE

  57. robertsgt40  April 26, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    I don’t think Obama is just another controled Zioist asset. Mentored by Soros, I think he’s in way over his head. No doubt the bad guys have plans to light up the planet. Lot of things(orchestrated)happening in close proxcimity. The “Church”, financial meltdown, UK, US, Israel tweaking Iran. They’re cooking something soon to usher in their NWO. Good article

  58. Bill Smitts  April 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Nice try at switching Frenchie. If this happens it will have nothing to do with Obama and all about pushing the end of the world politics, with a not so end of the world politic gain. The English speaking world is so focused on Israel`s right to exist, it forgets about the rest of the world`s right to exist.

    American congressional leaders in congress are so sure Israel is right they would destroy their own country. They should take their eyes way from their focus ànd on their own little brain interpretations of King James bible revelations, and back on a positive future of earth.

  59. Francois  April 26, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    I have always said, there will be an event coming with in the next twelve months to take our focus away from Obama and our other problems and put the fear factor back into us. Sorry Obama, I’m not fooled by your actions.

  60. Roy A Clark  April 26, 2010 at 2:32 pm


  61. Jerry  April 26, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    The Illuminati Nazi bankers.

    He is doing damage control saying that this is a big conspiracy to set up Israel.

  62. oy vey  April 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm


  63. forthurst  April 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    A dirty bomb is bound to be used. The vermin that perpetrated 9/11 will have realised that it is totally impossible to use conventionial explosives and not leave overwhelming forensic evidence of their guilt all over the lot. Think dirty bomb – no suspicious squibs, no microscopic traces of nanothermate, no fires burning hotter than kerosene, no buildings collapsing into their own footprints AND no investigations because of radio-activity. AND we can attack them with NUKES in retaliation.

  64. Carl Jones  April 26, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Come on, get in the REAL WORLD…haven`t you heard of ultra low yield micro nukes??

    Oklahoma, Bali, Jakarta X2, Baghdad UN compound, Taba, Rafik Hariri and Faluja …this is not a full list.

    You can hold a micro nuke in the palm of your hand!!

  65. 'Frank'  April 26, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Actually 9/11 Blogger has banned commenters, and comments.
    Everything isn’t ‘fair game in the comment section.’

  66. Survival Time  April 26, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    I don’t believe anything mainstream media says about ‘terrorism’. The only purpose for any reports/mention of suitcase nukes is just like the rest…to scare the crap out of society at large!

    People should be more concerned over the uprising in this country as a direct result of a failed government and a financial system running the country into the ground while they laugh at us all the way to (their respective) BANK!

  67. Nelson_2008  April 26, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Yes I know, Kate. My questions were basically rhetorical.

    As I see it, however, it’s not so much a case of being “dumbed down” (although that’s certainly part of it) as it is being “on the take”.

    The FBI, like most, if not all other federal organizations, agencies, etc. has been thoroughly politicized and corrupted.

    When careers and material possessions become far more important than “abstractions” like “truth” and “justice”, etc., you’ll see what we’re seeing now: the complete breakdown of our government and our society.

  68. Gordon Duff  April 26, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Ask “Sane” who I am working for and how I can go about getting paid.

  69. Gordon Duff  April 26, 2010 at 12:03 pm


  70. Gordon Duff  April 26, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Some people are slow.

  71. Big M  April 26, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    You’re joking, right? After 8-1/2 years, there’s SUSPICION that IsraHELL was involved in 9/11? “Possible complicity?” Wow.

    I guess the next thing you’ll be saying is that Catholic priests molest young boys.

  72. Lee  April 26, 2010 at 11:57 am

    You put the US, Israel, and the UK in check? we might just live in peace for a change!

  73. Bonnie  April 26, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Contrary to the texts of jueo-chrstianity and its derivative, islam, We, Human Beings, are NOT a spot of il in the cement. We are worth ALL the gold and treasures in Heaven, in ALL Creation.

    I KNOW this is the 1st time in the existence of Humanity, that the entire World, all Peoples, and Nature, is calling out to God, or whatever Force that created us…from Itself. We are calling out for Justice and Ma’at (Balance) to return.

    This Great Force who loves us, will prevail. The Life Force will prevail.

  74. Jeff Christen-Mitchell  April 26, 2010 at 11:37 am

    The issue of dual allegiance http://singlecitizen.org/ Simply Treason

  75. Kate Eddy  April 26, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Jimmy, if I wasn’t “guarding the fort” from a bunch of mossad he-bots and she-bots, occult-infested renegade cops and mercenaries funded by a wall-street pig, I’d be down in Los Angeles finding out why 20,000 veterans have no home. Why don’t you to take that verbage to Representative Henry Waxman, Senator Feinstein and Senator Boxer; and tell them the same thing.

  76. Kate Eddy  April 26, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Rick, in one of my readings I came across the term for Christian Zionists. It’s Jewish Nazis. Think that sums it up. The community I live in is bursting at the gills. When I find the source, I’ll post it.

  77. josef zach  April 26, 2010 at 11:10 am

    I didn’t list my web-site, too many crazies out there. Especially the “Hebrews”. (And the willing tools of selfsame). That said, the only thing that is saving us right now, from imminent False Flag operation, is the fact that the “Big Guys/Gals do NOT march all along in perfect lock step. I worked for a billionaire before he died. I literally sat behind him (closer than his “advisors”-because he was very paranoid and I was always armed, as was other “members” at the same meeting). I literally saw mega-millionaires and billionaires turn very high backed (and armored) chairs facing AWAY from the table when another powerful person was addressing the other members. Very much NOT unlike some 7 y/o in “group activities” in Grade School. Men (and women) who owned or controlled hundreds of millions, if not billions of real assets. The fact that these “Wannabe Gods (and GOddesses) ARE human with human weaknesses, is what prevents them all from acting in concert and extermination the better part of mankind, (which they want to do btw) in “ein augenblich”. That fact and only that fact. All of the above is only in my very humble opinion of course, and no one has to ascribe to selfsame. JZ

  78. Kate Eddy  April 26, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Tom, Catholics are the victims of Catholics. (O.K.; I admit it, I’m a Catholic)

  79. Rev Reggie Jackson  April 26, 2010 at 11:05 am

    I agree first of all that our Congress are a bunch of godless and traitorous goons who can never have enough bribe money. They are the political whores of the International Bankers/Bilderbergers/Illuminati/Freemasonry devils who would sell their own mothers out. And they are the evil equivolent of the Caesars and the Nero’s and the Stalins and Maoist. As they are watching our nation being dismantled economically by the wicked and Luciferic Bankers.

    And now we are being faced with nuclear suitcase bombs and Israel could indeed plant them and blame it on Iran. For the Israelis are always looking for ways to get Americans to fight their wars. As they don’t want to sacrifice one of their citizens but will expect America to do all of their fighting.

    But Israel can fight for itself with its 400 nukes!! And I love Israel very much. But enough is enough and we don’t need any more wars. We have to get our nation back on its feet economically and I don’t see this happening with the NWO antichrist beast system constantly doing things to wreck our economy; so that they can have their Luciferic One World Government; and One World Economy; and also their One World Religion. And it will be against the International law to criticize any other religion!!

    But in the end; we that know God and Jesus will prevail because though the antichrist beast will kill and martyr us for not taking their zombie making and mind controlling Mark of the Beast chip that is spoken of in Revelation 13 and 14 chapters of the HOly Bible; if you take it according to Revelation 14:9-11, you will forever be cursed by God and Jesus and you will burn forever and ever in the Great Lake of fire and brimstone!!

  80. Kate Eddy  April 26, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Bill, here’s a candidate that will: …”We must immediately: Balance the budget by reducing spending, Change our foreign policy to that of non-intervention, A full audit and more supervision of the Federal Reserve leading to abolishing the Federal Reserve, Legalize competition to the Federal Reserve with competing currencies, Regain respect for civil liberties and privacy while reining in the CIA, Wean ourselves off the dependence of wealth transfers by government, Abolish crony capitalism-no subsidies, no bailouts, no regulatory or tax privileges to protect the powerful elite, especially the military-industrial complex, Elimintate the income tax, inheritance tax and taxes on savings and dividends”….from Ron Paul’s Freedom Report Volume 13, No. 3 March 2010. AND, Ron Paul did NOT sign the letter reaffiming the U.S.-Israel Alliance.

  81. AntiLieGuy  April 26, 2010 at 10:33 am

    On 10-10-10, the neocons are going to do another false flag to invade Iran using the nuke they stole in 07 and that same day America will be totally destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO. This is the war of Armageddon and you can know it is now by all the earthquakes and the chemtrails sprayed every day globally to hide the sign in the heavens — Planet X. News here: www . docstoc . com/docs/6519605/WarNews and www . xfacts . com

  82. AntiLieGuy  April 26, 2010 at 10:32 am

    On 10-10-10, the neocons are going to do another false flag to invade Iran using the nuke they stole in 07 and that same day America will be totally destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO. This is the war of Armageddon and you can know it is now by all the earthquakes and the chemtrails sprayed every day globally to hide the sign in the heavens — Planet X. News here: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews and http://www.xfacts.com

  83. Rick Rodgers  April 26, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I managed to get through all these comments, & while I’m wasting time at the computer, I see what the criminal element is spraying in the skies.If you wonder why people don’t get a clue, maybe they are being affected by a series of events that do not require a “false flag event” to make them complacent or compliant.But, what do I know?I did not see one comment that placed “Crazy Christians” in the same camp as “Crazy Zionist Jews”.Imagine that!

  84. Charles McPherson  April 26, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Whether the claims set out in the article below are true or not I don’t know. But your commentary brought it back to mind and I went in search of it on the web. Joe Vialls, the Australian investigative reporter who wrote this piece, is now dead and his site has been taken down, but I finally found a copy of the article archived at the link below…

    Bali Micro Nuke – Lack of Radiation Confuses “Experts”


    “It was precisely 11.30 p.m. on Saturday 12 October 2002, when someone somewhere pressed a button that sent a single coded radio-squirt to an underground aerial located in a monsoon drain outside the Sari Club in Bali. An unseen circuit closed and a primer fired, then one-millionth of a single second later, a terrible fireball formed under the street. Less than six inches in diameter and burning at a staggering 300,000 degrees centigrade, the fireball was a perfect shimmering sphere, made possible by 99.78% Plutonium 239 manufactured at the Dimona nuclear facility in the Negev Desert.
    Five microseconds passed while this fission monster from hell expanded, then the already-cooling fireball tore its angry way out into the street above, vaporizing all victims standing within thirty feet while simultaneously spreading two tons of deadly microscopic roadbed shrapnel in a lethal arc across Kuta Beach. Every survivor standing in direct line-of-sight of its awesome ultraviolet emission received terrible flash burns, the like of which three eminent Australian burns surgeons would later claim on TV they “had never seen before”.
    Less than ten-millionths of a second after the monster achieved critical mass, its searing thermal wave set fire to twenty-seven buildings in the immediate area, and spontaneously ignited automobiles parked two blocks away from ground zero. But as you will read later in this report, no ordinary Geiger counter from any nation could detect radiation from the weapon.
    This atrocity was the “punishment” meted out to Australians and others opposed to the Judeo-Christian Crusade against Islam. Ordinary everyday people, Australians in particular, who had earlier been sensible enough and brave enough to speak out against their Prime Minister’s slavish obedience to Ariel Sharon and George W. Bush in their ruthless quest to loot and destroy the Middle East. But the fission monster from hell was also designed to send a very clear and unmistakable message to like-minded dissidents in Britain: “Jump on the crusade bandwagon quickly, or our Dimona thought-reform folk will pay you a visit”…” (article continues)

  85. Karla  April 26, 2010 at 9:38 am

    We should accept that ALL peoples throughout the world have been “Conditioned.” How is it that in 2010 that we find ourselves still wondering what is actually happening and why these things are occurring? Even in 1871 Albert Pike the commander of the confederate army(a statue in his honor is in the nations capital to this day)wrote a letter to a fellow freemason named Mazzini and told him exactly what is going to occur and why. These things have happened exactly on cue and accurately concerning WW1,WW2 and now we are working on WW3. Here is the who,why,what,when and how concerning WW3. Anyone who believes this 2 headed one bodied 2 party monster of a system is somehow different one from the other, then you are seriously “Conditioned.” Whether our president be GWB or Obama, they both work for their masters and their masters arenot the citizens of America, that much you can be assured of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDQ9qi570oM&feature=related

  86. Steve  April 26, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Consider yourself warned. These are the real terrorist. They feed on fear and emotion. No one will believe it till they see it, smell it, or taste it. Myself included. It happened and I now believe. – Masquerade Of Angels http://www.karlaturner.org/

  87. Bill  April 26, 2010 at 9:07 am

    “I’ve never seen a President, stand up to the Israelis.
    They always get what they want.
    If the American people understood what a grip these people have on our government, they would Rise up in Arms. Our citizens don’t have any idea what goes on.”
    – Admiral Thomas Moorer
    Former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under Reagan

    “Its hard to imagine us going into Iraq without the strong lobbying efforts from AIPAC and the Neocons”
    -General Odom, NSA Chief under Reagan

  88. Varsipe  April 26, 2010 at 8:17 am


    Mel Gibson raises this possibility in his new movie “The Edge of Darkness”.
    DARPA designed the logo that captures the whole concept:

  89. Gary  April 26, 2010 at 7:51 am

    Crawford Txas, please Crawford Texas

  90. Dave  April 26, 2010 at 7:11 am

    Let’s get it on already!
    Enough of this waiting and anticipating.
    Once it’s done,we can get on with forming a more perfect union that doesn’t include thiose who have an allegiance to a foreign country involved in any way with its government,banking,media and colleges.

  91. m  April 26, 2010 at 6:46 am

    American citizens need to find our gonads.

  92. Zyklon-B  April 26, 2010 at 4:32 am

    Time to enact the final solution to the Israel Problem

  93. Wainwright  April 26, 2010 at 3:41 am

    Brilliant article, Gordon. It is always a great day to read living proof that we Americans are becoming aware of the actual threats facing us. I think about how nobody is “watching the chicken coop” , a false flag incident by nuclear terrorism blamed on Al-Queda, Iran or “pick your Arab”, which is really engineered by Israeli MOSAAD. We have been pointing our Intell resources in the wrong direction for a long time. Thank you for articulating this point.

  94. Jerry  April 26, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Sane from prison planet forum is attacking you right now. He says you are an agent. He shills for Israel constantly so it’s no surprise.

  95. Mick  April 25, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    It is hard to slip on by Kate. Good job

    Lt Bobby Ross huh?

    Naha nagila to life Lachaim

  96. Mick  April 25, 2010 at 9:56 pm


    The super computer here agrees with you Gordon, something is up

  97. reamonnk  April 25, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Great article!

  98. Mick  April 25, 2010 at 8:27 pm


    The big computers agree with you Gordon.

  99. Andre Ouellet  April 25, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Any doubters on the subject of “suitcase nukes” should go to: http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/News/DoSuitcaseNukesExist.html

    The W-54 Davy Crockett warhead is described as 10-1000 ton yield, 28 cm x 30 cm, 16 kg. This was tested in Nevada in 1958. It would fit into a large watermelon. I hope to skip the picnic.

  100. Ross  April 25, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    On 26 th March 2010 the South Korean Ship Cheonan was either topedoed or bombed.They are pointing the finger at North Korea and Hilary Clinton wants a thorough investigation before accusing anyone.She hoped that there would be “no miscalculation.” Is this an attempt to start conflicts on many fronts? Blame North Korea for supplying dirty weapons and get the North and South fighting again?

    I hope Obama and Congress are wide awake.

  101. Lese Majeste  April 25, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Like, who’s that guy in the Clinton Admin who died mysteriously in the WDC park?

    Uhh, Vince Foster? The same Vince Foster who worked with Hillary Clinton at the Rose law firm in Arkansas?

    Did you know that Israeli mega-spy Jonathan Pollard also worked at Rose with Hillary and Vince?

    More loose ends, eh?

  102. Lese Majeste  April 25, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Like, who’s that guy in the Clinton Admin who died mysteriously in the WDC park

    Uhh, Vince Foster? The same Vince Foster who worked with Hillary Clinton at the Rose law firm in Arkansas?

    Did you know that Israeli mega-spy Jonathan Pollard also worked at Rose with Hillary and Vince?

    More loose ends, eh?

  103. Gordon Duff  April 25, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Some of us know more than a little about Vince Foster. His death came up in a lawsuit against Keycorp. It seems he was meeting with…..
    Think junk bonds.

  104. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Lese, Nice try, but there were (are) many easier ways to “tie up loose ends”, to use your parlance. Like, who’s that guy in the Clinton Admin who died mysteriously in the WDC park? You get the picture.


  105. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Yup, Night Flyer, something’s going to happen. The sun’s going to rise — and set — and I’m going to dinner pretty soon. From my technical expertise, suitcase bombs are real, and incredibly devastating if placed properly. I wish I could share… oh well.


  106. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Stevor, there are alot of veterans on Wilshire Blvd in Los Angeles right this minute DOING SOMETHING. Why don’t you join them. THEY ARE doing something. And, the only reason I know about their plight is BECAUSE of Gordon. If I wasn’t “imprisoned” here, I’d be there.

  107. Tom  April 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    The question I want to ask who would Israel use this dirty bomb on? It would use the bomb to solidify it`s world stand on Palestinin land and attacking Islam. It altready has support from Christian evangelicals.

    But evangelicals America are small compared to the Roman Catholic Church. They need Rome´s blessing. To those people who do not know it Rome still controls much of the dialogue on ethics in spite of it´s problems with sexual abuse. Some in the UK and America might not like it but it is true. Rome is wounded but not dead.

    Israel would try to put Catholics in their camp by making Catholics the victim of Islam.

  108. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Better become a vegetarian, Dan.


  109. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Nicely said, Kate. T.

  110. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Nelson_2008, I think you’re over the edge. If it makes you feel better, fine. If you really believe your “stuff” then use your real name. Like Gordon does, like Kate does, like I and others do. Then you’ll have a bit more credibility.
    Until then, you just sound like another blabbering scammer.

    Tom, Texas Vet

  111. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    I am getting the impression that most people have no knowledge of the “fabricated bombing/sinking” of the S.S. Sussex which brought about WWI. For those of you having attended public school, WWWI came before WWII.

  112. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Thanks for holding your own, Stevor! Gordie has some good points, but he’s not always right. Still, he is a good guy who deserves to be heard.

    Tom Texas Vet

  113. Tom Dillman  April 25, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Pretty well said Lese. But you forgot Sumatra.


  114. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Bobby; post your mailing address, I’ll send you the lyrics to “Kumbahya”.

  115. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Matt, scroll back up to Kenny’s posting…Hoyer/Cantor letter. There’s the website, and what a HUGE disappointment it is.

  116. Lese Majeste  April 25, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Maybe we should ask former FBI Agent John O’Neill about the Israeli involvement in the USS Cole attack in October 2000.

    O’Neill had developed leads that pointed to Israeli involvement in that attack and reported it to our Yemeni ambassador, Barb Bodine. Bodine became alarmed and tried to have O’Neill’s security detail yanked.
    When that didn’t fly, she appealed to ‘Blood Maddy’ Albright, then Secretary of State. Albright intervened and had O’Neill pulled off the case and transfered back to the States.

    O’Neill became disillusioned with what he saw as State Department interference in the case and quit the FBI, only to be hired by Jerome Hauer of Kroll Associates who were providing ‘security’ to the WTC.

    O’Neill started the week of 9/11 and was killed on that day.

    Nice way of tying up loose ends, eh?

  117. B.A. Gilmore  April 25, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Please let’s not confuse all Jews with Zionism. Oppression of the Jews is how we got where we are today. Some of them have become so paranoid, they’re doing the same things to the Palestinians that the Germans did to them. I don’t want us to go down that road. I don’t want to have the same paranoia that’s in the Middle East now: The Muslims believe everyone is against them. The Jews believe everyone is against them. There are back deals everywhere. I know it sounds like I want to turn a blind eye to everything, but isn’t there a way to help fix this. I can’t believe I’m saying this but, I am so sick of war and oppression I’ll be glad when I die.

  118. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Lese, …or “domestic” terrorists.

  119. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Dan; Food for thought (really, no pun intended), google Mikhail Gorbachev click on wikipedia, scroll down to “aftermath of the coup and the final collapse” very last sentence, “Gorbachev was left with no effective power base beyond the armed forces.” Gee, and Gorby’s just about two hours from here.

  120. Weapons of Mass Deception # 2.
    Iran peddles lightweight nukes actually made and paid for by agents unknown outside of Teheran’s influence or actions but made to look like the Iranians cooked up the whole scheme. Sounds eerily familiar…

  121. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Shan, the next time someone uses the term “African-American” or “Asian-American” tell them: You can be African or American, you can be Asian or American. Divisive-labels cause division. WE THE PEOPLE are a part of the world at large, however AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION. Tread carefully near “the slippery-slope”.

  122. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Phillip; look up towards your Master, not down.

  123. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Bill, I can’t type quick enough.

  124. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Nelson_2008, “What’s up with the FBI”. Let me give you a little insight. I was fortunate to grow up a few houses away from the author of “Profiles in Murder”. After decades of service to the FBI, Mr. Vorpagel was dismissed for stating something to the effect that, “they’re (FBI) hiring all these broads”. Well, excuse me, but that statement hardly qualifies as a reason to dismiss. I smell a “hate crime/hate speech” supporter behind that injustice. REAL POLICE WHO DO REAL POLICE WORK are few and far between. And, the “real” police who DO their job are barraged by negative propaganda by guess who. America, including our law enforcement, have summarily been “dumbed-down”.

  125. Gordon Duff  April 25, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Rascally Rats,
    Someone who represents themselves as devoid of inneundo but uses a pseudonym is a curiousity in itself.
    Good to have you onboard and, feel free to leave any time. I suspect you can always find a home in Israel. All that is necessary is to bulldoze a school or orphanage and you can build anywhere.

  126. Gordon Duff  April 25, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Suggest you check. There was actually a nuclear hand grenade, a nuke 155 shell and more. The smallest blast was 4 ton. That we have 2 nuclear weapons techs around here does help a bit. Your information is utterly false in every imaginable way. In fact, there are no estimates of any kind that follow your own. Curious. Do a search, for example, on the xm454.

  127. Byron Skinner  April 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Good Morning Duff,

    Not to doubt you on this Duff but on the issue of “suit case bombs” although many people have claimed that the Soviets had such a weapon I have yet to see a picture of one. Of course by any of those would be inert simply because nuclear weapons have a shelf life of two to three years between be serviced such as having batteries changed and the electronics checked out and replaced.

    On the device you have pictured it can’t be a Plutonium device because the smallest ball they have ever got enough weapons grade Plutonium and UXB into was a hair north of 280mm. Maybe a steamer trunk bomb but not a suit/briefcase bomb. That “pipe bomb” shown would indicate strongly that it would have to something else. Also the yield of only 40 tins of TNT is considerably lower then any thing I’ve ever heard of. A yield of 1 to 1.5 mega tons is about the smallest nuc I’ve ever heard about.

    Lastly there is the issue of how far Israel has taken it’s nuclear technology. So far as I can find even the most liberal estimation of a potential Israeli arsenal is about 25 gravity bombs not unlike the US’s B-61’s in the 50-100 mega ton category. Sorry Duff, I just don’t see where Israel has developed any technology anywhere near to producing miniaturized nuclear weapons.

    As far as Israeli intents, thats another issue, I still remember the USS Liberty, and I wouldn’t put anything past Israel. Israel is seeing it power, and even its sovereignty as a state slip away to the Palestinians and the Zionist/Jewish State is increasingly unable to mount any decisive defensive strategy. But without the ability or the means Israel is just not this kind of a threat.

    Byron Skinner

  128. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    What’s more interesting than who signed it, is WHO DIDN’T. DIANE FEINSTEIN, CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE SELECT COMMITTEEE ON INTELLIGENCE DID NOT SIGN THIS DOCUMENT. A comment in the American Free Press, a letter to the editor, about Rahm Emanuel snubbing Israel caught my attention. Then Hillary Clinton plays “phone tag” with Netanyahoo. They’re pulling up stakes. Why even support Israel when you now “control” the Golden Goose…America. The sayanim are running amok, the Zionist-infested Freemason’s have our local law enforcement under mind control; all the while the Mossad continues, un-restrained, with its clandestine operations. If their loaded, un-lock them.

  129. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    whoops! typo… should be “instructing”

  130. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    g, LOL; then suddenly sober thank you for “intructing” young steve

  131. Matt Ford, M.P.A.  April 25, 2010 at 1:43 pm


    I saw the list of traitor Senators, thankfully, not all of them signed. However, I would like to see the list of Congressional Representatives. What is the website for that?


  132. Mick  April 25, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Jones says the Arabs run Hollywood, what else do you need to know about him? Only a vegetable could believe that.

    Half past human computers seem to agree with you Gordon.


  133. Nelson_2008  April 25, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    Alex Jones does some serious gate-keeping for Zionist Jewry. He treats Israel and its apologists with kid gloves, and he’s made some laughably absurd remarks that seem to give away his real agenda; e.g., “Hollywood is owned by the Arabs”.

    It’s said that his wife is Jewish (making his kids Jewish under Jewish law), that he has a Jewish lawyer, and he has several Jewish sponsors, etc.



  134. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Stevor, “Is there anybody/anything else “good””? Americans, Stevor, Americans…one’s without dual citizenship.

  135. Mick  April 25, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Jones says the Arabs own Hollywood. What else could you possibly need to know about him? That in itself shows a total separation from reality that only a vegetable could believe.

    The computers at half past human agree with you also Gordon.


  136. Gordon Duff  April 25, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The choice was reporting or not. I am just a poor simple journalist.

  137. LT Bobby Ross  April 25, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Hey Gordon!

    The “Suitcase Bomb”! GEE! Let’s see, did that first come out 40 years ago with the advent of the movie release “King Kong”, or was it before that? Maybe back in the 50’s when we were conducting Air Raid drills in our schools where the kids scooted under their desks with their asses looking up to the wall of glass windows? The point of the matter is that the ‘media’ (Right Winged owned Liberal Press!) is now sending the ‘Boogie Man’ once again to our corn flake’s bowl to frighten us. You know as well as I do that we will see one of these ‘dirty bombs’ explode in one of our cities very soon. Probably DC or The Big Apple. I don’t think La Crosse, WI, has much to worry about. I would think our kids being slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan would prevent this, but frankly, what has their sacrifice prevented? Another 9/11? Give me a break. And, now we do the “Jew Bashing”. Now that we have a President who is not White, and a Congress who is without a doubt so far out of touch with the American culture that it has sold our grandkid’s kid’s kids to the highest bidder, it is time to blame Israel for all of our woes. I believe Israel is where “God’s chosen people live!” I have nothing against Jews or the younger generation living in Iran. What I am against is “Hate Mongering”. “Love is all there is, it makes the world go ’round!” But, there is far too much love in this world compared to the hate that is constantly manifesting itself all around us to the point that soon, some dirty group is going to set off a dirty bomb. When it happens, the ‘Knee Jerk” response we saw by our government officials after 9/11 will look like two 3 year olds spraying gas on an ant hill and igniting it. Be wary of who is actually the ‘dirty group’ who sets this program into motion. And be careful of those spewing hate towards the Jews, Blacks, single mothers, Mexicans working in our fields, and Eskimos.

  138. Kate Eddy  April 25, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Kenny, thank you for posting this. The truth certainly DOES HURT. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012.

  139. Canada rules  April 25, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    Thanks again for such a fantastic article Gordon. For the likes of steve who either dont wanna believe in the truth or are just pretending to do so becuase of their vested interest, like the 9/11, their was a so called terrorist attack in India and initially india blamed some Islamic terrorist outfit in Pakistan (as they always do) but now the truth is coming out and a guy named ” David Headley” who is a US citizen and an FBI man, has been proved to be behind it and although india is asking for extradition for him to conduct the enquiry but the US govt refuses to do that and guess what he visited every part of India and all the places that we had been to, a blast happened after his visit. By the way it wasn’t him alone but 2 guys that had Israeli citizenship were also with him. Now what do you call this as ?? a conspiracy theory!! since thats what the truth is called these days.

  140. Fayyaz Shah  April 25, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Finally the true voice of America and the realization that Jews have taken it for a long ride, exactly like the criminal Arabs did to the innocent Pashtuns using the most sensitive weapon Religion. When all the extreme criminals were transported from the Arab world prisons and promoted as Religious warriors to lead the Afghan Jehad and the rest is Bloody History. When the money started rolling from Hollywood (Jews) to Bollywood (friends of Jews) most of it went to create Nurseries of extremest and religious fanatics and the rest is a Horror sequel that may end with a Dirty Bomb.

  141. Lese Majeste  April 25, 2010 at 11:02 am

    I think Alex Jones is on the right track in all of this

    Alex Jones is one of the biggest Zionist stooges in the USA. He pretends to investigate NWO and 9/11, but steers clear of any Isareli involvement in 9/11.

    Watch AJ in the doc called “New World Order,” and ask yourself why AJ acts like a bug-eyed maniac when pretending to look into 9/11.
    He acted just like the MSM goons say that 9/11 Truthers act like, a bunch of crazies. His role in that doc help set back the 9/11 Truth movement a decade.

    As for the next false-flag, it’s not a matter of if, but when and where.

    My guess would be a mid-size American city, like Springfield, MO or Rapid City, SD. They could destroy much of the city w/o much of the radioactive drippings getting blown anywhere substantial.

    The stock market has been artificially propped up by Wall Street banks using money from the Fed to create offshore fictitious accounts that have been giving the market an appearance of activity.
    Their greed has even got to that part of the scheme, with a lot of that money now setting in private accounts, no longer generating activity.
    Since the market is about to crash AGAIN, might as well set off a false-flag and blame the market’s demise on Iranians….. or Palestinians…. or Hezbollah.

  142. jonathan mark  April 25, 2010 at 10:54 am

    I’d rather be warned of some impending threat before it happens rather than afterward. This is an important article, I will be linking to it from http://www.FlybyNews.com

    Thank You!

  143. bullet1943  April 25, 2010 at 10:27 am

    Something that needs clarification because of the seriousness of this situation..

    The use of the term “dirty bomb” seems to have been instituted incorrectly concerning this threat. If, as suggested, a nuclear device of “40 tons” yield is in place and will be detonated, it is NOT a “dirty bomb” unless there is 40 tons of explosive used to propel the radioactive materials. This type of device requires no real nuclear technology, as you simply wrap radioactive material around an explosive, detonate it and create a relatively small blast zone that’s very radioactive within the blast zone. Nasty? certainly, but light years away from the devastation created by a true nuclear device. What is important is that the blast has NO significant nuclear yield. On the other hand, if there is a true “40 ton” yield attained by nuclear fission, with resultant initial radiation followed by nuclear fallout, then it’s better described as a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, this weapon may or may not contain certain materials deliberately designed to cast long-life radioactive materials within the blast zone. This type of weapon is more properly termed as a “salted” nuclear weapon. The term “dirty bomb” doesn’t do it justice. What may be important is to understand that these types of atomic munitions are only designed by countries with fairly advanced nuclear programs. Certainly, Israel has this technology. And there’s always the possibility of an unsophisticated country or group purchasing a nuclear device from sympathetic countries with nuclear arsenals.
    My point is, it’s probably better from the get-go to correctly identify which type of device would be employed, because on the scale of possible damage- they differ greatly.

  144. Rex Carlson  April 25, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Check out: http://www.rense.com/general89/whoisthisman.htm

  145. Rex Carlson  April 25, 2010 at 7:58 am

    GREAT, GREAT, GREAT!!! Thanks, D!

    Anyone wanting the best current info. on “EVERYTHING 911” :

    —> Follow 911blogger.com (Unfortunately and, I believe, misguidedly – due to member “sensitivity”, they stear clear of all things “Israel” in the blog entries they accept. However, everything is fair game in the comments section.)

    Anyone wanting more info. on “ISRAEL & 911”, go to

    —> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Missing%20Links&hl=en&source=vgc&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv# :

    and select the first video: “MISSING LINKS” 2:07:05

    (All 100% clear copies have disappeared from the net. Those left aren’t perfect but, trust me, will do the trick.)

  146. Ross  April 25, 2010 at 4:42 am

    Gordon,I don’t like the Alex Jones’ style, but “Fall of the Republic” was a shining success.Are you suggesting that he too in some way has been bought?

  147. Nelson_2008  April 24, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    I’ll bet you don’t believe that Israel did 9/11 either, do you (with some help from high level traitors in the U.S. government)?

  148. Night Flyer  April 24, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Definitely something going to happen, and soon. I’m reading words here from a poster above, a point of view which is filled with distractions; somewhat in the voice of desperation. I wonder why he so upset?

  149. Dan  April 24, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    A “dirty” suitcase nuke is one possibility of a “false flag” operation against this nation, and that’s as obviously in the works as disruption of oil from the Middle East. Here’s another with greater potential for widespread devastation, which I don’t believe was mentioned above.

    Unless I am mistaken, America’s beef supply, while it appears boundless, would last less than one week if anthrax or another biological plague were released in this country against live cattle and poultry. This would be far more difficult to trace and the material far easier to bring in. Chaos would ensue. The USDA has been aware of this threat since 9/11, and working on vaccines. Investigating the progress the USDA is making and current evaluations of such an attack make sense. Last I heard, which was some time ago, Congress had no interest.

    As to Congress’ being in the back pocket of AIPAC, it should go without saying that the MSM in this country, as well as certain special interests, control nominations in both parties. Nearly all those who get to run have already been pre-selected for their “undying support.” That’s a given, either party, before you or I even go to the polls. Sarah Palin, well-intentioned as she may be, is a classic example, and her election would probably bring back the Bush “team” on day one. My guess is that Obama was promised free rein to implement his domestic plans in return for his “undying support,” but the military has gotten his ear, and the man may actually have the guts to do the right thing for his country.

  150. Shan  April 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    I understand that there are villians in Israel and some have ties in America but to believe that their nation itself has this malevolent egomaniacal agenda for World Zionist Domination really is a stretch to me. I don’t see that ever happening and I don’t even believe they do.
    I am not overtly trying to villify the nation of Islam either but I do know that the Jewish people as a whole have long been kind of paranoid since World War II when very few accepted them (including most in this Country; therefore I am not going to villify any country in and of itself (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Russia, China, or {yes} even Isreal.
    There are day’s when I’d like to pull all my hair out and run off somewhere about all of this madness and insanity in our World, but I ‘stick it out’ and don’t. I always get through those ‘valley of the shadow’ days somehow and never cause anybody irreparable damage.
    I don’t know how I’ll feel tomorrow but here’s a suggestion for the present Gordon. The Colored people have the NAACP the White people have the NAAWP so I’d like to start a group called the NAAAP ~ that’s NATIONAL ASSOCIATION for the ADVANCEMENT OF ALL PEOPLE (Emphasis on ALL People.) Also, we’ve had the United Nations which this country and others villify so I’d like to expand my first suggestion to the IAAAP that’s INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION for the ADVANCEMENT of ALL PEOPLE. It’s just a thought right now, so what do you think?

  151. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Fine. But you aren’t paid anything for this, are you? At least you told me that once.

    You seem to give lots of miscellaneous “facts” and seem to like to keep the “real info” from others (maybe a control issue), but not really be helpful.

    That’s fine. No more comments by me from now on. They can be amusing but only waste my time.

  152. Shan  April 24, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Gor, my question is, do you consider present day Israel to be a genuine Sovereign nation or not?

  153. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    I am not paid to answer your questions. Jones is against Obama but shilling for the banksters. You have to hone those skills and be able to tell when someone is really fighting or doing a “rope-a-dope”.
    Jones is an ultra-lightweight.

  154. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Why are you always so coy? So, who does Alex Jones work for?

    Is he wrong to be against the banksters? Is he wrong to be against Obummer?

    Do you or do you not associate Goldman Sachs and the like to Israel, and are they not trying to take over the world?

    Again, you are avoiding answering questions.

  155. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    You are making me torture you. Look into who Jones works for. g

  156. bill Smitts  April 24, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Gordon there are many Americans on the right who are Israeli supporters who support Israels work against a free America. They think they are patriots, but really are pawns, in a game they do not undrstand.

    Without knowing it Gordon they are doing then same as those blacks and white people who fought for the south, and its aristocrats trying to keep a racist a class system.

  157. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    You said you are for “America”. But the Democrats say that, the GOP says that, lots of people say that. Just what does that mean to you? Are you for getting back to the Constitution (as the Tea Party is)? Are you for fiscal responsibility, which America needs and the Tea Party is?

  158. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    who does the IMF work for? I’d say it’s the banksters, who are a front for Israel.

    I think Alex Jones is on the right track in all of this. He’s against the banksters. He also seems to be against Obummer. To me, it seems Obummer is just a puppet for the banksters and he’s just doing more “wag-the-dog” maneuvers (as Clinton did) to keep people’s minds of what really counts, which is the banksters taking over the world.

    I don’t care about Democraps or the GOP. they’re both puppets and more of the “wag-the-dog” distractions.

    As I just asked in another response, who are you FOR? What are YOU doing about it other than writing these stories?

  159. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Yeah, Goldman is corrupt. They game the market, betting both ways, making money both ways, and stealing from everybody. They ought to be put in jail and the company ought to be seized with its assets going to pay back who was stolen from (including Greece). But what’s your point? Is Obummer really going to do anything? I don’t know how you rate the Huffington Post (which is frequently against what I believe) but they say Obummer’s plan won’t do much good.

  160. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    I work for America. You work for Israel but don’t know it.

  161. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    First of all, I don’t care what color Obummer is. Calling people “racist” as you seem to be doing to me is a Democrat tactic, when people can’t answer questions.
    I don’t list to Fox and have never listened to Glen Beck (who I think is a MORON).

    I wasn’t “involved”? So, just what did YOU do? You always talk bad of the Tea Party, who IS actually a group TRYING to do something. Just what are you doing besides writing for VeteransToday, which may make you feel good, but doesn’t make it to the “real world” news?

    Since things are “coming apart”, what are you REALLY doing to thwart it? Having this blog and trading opinions doesn’t accomplish anything unless those against the “problem” DO SOMETHING. So, WHERE is anything being DONE by you?
    Which “side” are you on? You only give vague descriptions of what your side is NOT, but what IS IT?

  162. Nelson_2008  April 24, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    What’s up with all the 9/11 insider put options that were apparently never followed through?

    What’s up with the FBI having tried to frame Hatfill for the anthrax attacks (and failing miserably), and then literally hounding the psychologically frail Bruce Ivins to death, then framing the dead man for the crime, and now his family apparently won’t sue anybody? What’s up with that?

    Why did Shyam Sunder disgrace himself and his organization by standing up in front of the world and talking pure nonsense about “fire” bringing down the WTC buildings? What’s up with that?

    Why were the Israeli agents picked up by the cops after celebrating 9/11 and failing lie detector tests, mysteriously let go? What’s up with that?

    I guess we could just go on and on asking questions, couldn’t we?

  163. Phillip F Tourney  April 24, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    You know I am a person that lived to tell the story of a false flag operation by Israel and the good ole USA.I wounder how much time we have left until ‘BANG’ today next week?It will happen thank you congress for giving Israel all it needs to kill our children.I can think of so many things that need to be said and have been said but it makes no waves ISRAEL is the master of all of our fate get used to it.
    Remember the USS LIBERTY that’s the key!

  164. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    “In late 2007 as the mortgage crisis gained momentum and many banks were suffering losses, Goldman Sachs executives traded e-mail messages saying that they would make “some serious money” betting against the housing markets.The messages, released Saturday by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, appear to contradict statements by Goldman that left the impression that the firm lost money on mortgage-related investments.

    In the messages, Lloyd C. Blankfein, the bank’s chief executive, acknowledged in November 2007 that the firm had lost money initially. But it later recovered by making negative bets, known as short positions, to profit as housing prices plummeted. “Of course we didn’t dodge the mortgage mess,” he wrote. “We lost money, then made more than we lost because of shorts.”

    He added: “It’s not over, so who knows how it will turn out ultimately.”

    In another message, dated July 25, 2007, David A. Viniar, Goldman’s chief financial officer, reacted to figures that said the company had made a $51 million profit from bets that housing securities would drop in value. “Tells you what might be happening to people who don’t have the big short,” he wrote to Gary D. Cohn, now Goldman’s president.

    Actions taken by Wall Street firms during the housing collapse have become a major factor in the contentious debate over financial reform. In his weekly radio address on Saturday, President Obama said Wall Street had “hurt just about every sector of our economy” and again pressed the case for tighter regulation. On Monday Senate Democrats will try to prevent a Republican filibuster in the first major test of the administration’s effort to push through legislation.

    Goldman on Saturday denied it made a significant profit on mortgage-related products in 2007 and 2008. It said the subcommittee had “cherry-picked” e-mail messages from the nearly 20 million pages of documents it provided. This sets up a showdown between the Senate subcommittee and Goldman, which has aggressively defended itself since the Securities and Exchange Commission filed a security fraud complaint against it nine days ago. On Tuesday, seven current and former Goldman employees, including Mr. Blankfein, are expected to testify at a Congressional hearing.

    Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan and head of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, said that the e-mail messages contrasted with Goldman’s public statements about its trading results. “The 2009 Goldman Sachs annual report stated that the firm ‘did not generate enormous net revenues by betting against residential related products,’ ” Senator Levin said in a statement Saturday. “These e-mails show that, in fact, Goldman made a lot of money by betting against the mortgage market.”

    The messages appear to connect some of the dots at a crucial moment of Goldman history. They show that in 2007, as most other banks hemorrhaged money from plummeting mortgage holdings, Goldman prospered.

    At first, Goldman openly discussed its prescience in calling the housing downfall. In the third quarter of 2007, the investment bank reported publicly that it had made big profits on its negative bet on mortgages.

    But by the end of 2007, the firm curtailed disclosures about its mortgage trading results. Its chief financial officer told analysts that they should not expect Goldman to reveal whether it was long or short on the housing market. By late 2008, Goldman was emphasizing its losses, rather than its profits, pointing regularly to write-downs of $1.7 billion on mortgage assets in 2008 and leaving out the amount it made on its negative bets.

    Goldman and other firms often take positions on both sides of an investment. Some are long, which are bets that the investment will do well, and some are shorts, which are bets the investment will do poorly.

    Goldman has said it added shorts to balance its mortgage book, not to make a directional bet on a market collapse. But the messages released by the subcommittee Saturday appear to show that in 2007, at least, Goldman’s short bets were eclipsing the losses on its long positions.

    In May 2007, for instance, Goldman workers e-mailed one another about losses on a bundle of mortgages issued by Long Beach Mortgage Securities. Though the firm lost money on those, a worker wrote, there was “good news”: “we own 10 mm in protection.” That meant Goldman had enough of a bet against the bond that, over all, it profited by $5 million.

    On Oct. 11, 2007, one Goldman manager in the trading unit wrote to another, “Sounds like we will make some serious money,” and received the response, “Yes we are well positioned.”

    Documents released by the Senate committee appear to indicate that in July 2007, Goldman’s accounting showed losses of $322 million on positive mortgage positions, but its negative bet — what Mr. Viniar called “the big short” — brought in $373 million.

    As recently as a week ago, a Goldman spokesman emphasized that the firm had tried only to hedge its mortgage holdings in 2007.

    The firm said in its annual report this month that it did not know back then where housing was headed, a sentiment expressed by Mr. Blankfein the last time he appeared before Congress.

    “We did not know at any minute what would happen next, even though there was a lot of writing,” he told the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission in January.

    It is not known how much money in total Goldman made on its negative housing bets. Neither Goldman nor the panel issued information about Goldman’s mortgage earnings in 2009…..”

  165. bill Smitts  April 24, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Israel detonating a dirty bomb and blasming it on Islam! Desperate people do desperate things. There are a growing number of people in governments around the world that are beginning to understand just how dangerous the world is with Israel going going gone rogue.

    If this does happen it will get governments in the west the US in particular to declare martial law, and jail those that do not go along with the micro reading bible quoting fundamentalist Christians.

    Then lets sit back ad watch those whining right wing Palinista s control their paranoia of the democratic left going wild and stuggling to change their anger now directed at the left. Interesting time. Freedom of the press will end, along with other civil rights.

    Thanks Gordon

  166. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Silberstein and his friends controlled the insurance company. call it a “short sell”
    corporate assets are being redirected from investors to….
    you should be a republican. you have the business sense for it.
    do this…catch the latest mark fiore cartoon..it explains the process pretty well

  167. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    You are on an endless loop…blame the negro president..bush could do no wrong….fox news is god….waiting to hear instructions from glenn beck, townhall and worldnet daily on how to think.
    you are regressing
    you only make yourself helpless and irrelevant.
    when the big change came, and it did, you weren’t there. we were on the story but you missed the whole thing. you have a chance to be involved, you are wired to the right sources but you are stuck with the same tired old dogma.
    things are rapidly coming apart….and you are on the wrong side.

  168. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    What I don’t get is why the insurance company rolled over and paid him (Silverstein) all that money. What’s up with that?

  169. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Maybe your “insecurities” are showing. You never have liked to answer my questions.

    So, when Clinton warns us of an “attack”, you can probably bank on one happening. Besides that, is the illustrious Obummer (who you seem to like) actually doing something about this? Does he have so many the “banksters (Israelis)” against him that he can’t do anything?

    So far, it seems that Obummer has just been Bush version 3, doing the same things but fooling everybody with smoke and mirrors and many still thinking the “emperor” really is wearing clothes. I’d have to bet that his “war” against the banks is more smoke and mirrors, so his buddies won’t get run out of town on a rail, and right before the election he’ll say, “I need more time” and fool the lemmings again

  170. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:30 pm


  171. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    9/11 never happened, it was a liberal trick, using their control of the news….they even hired phony israelis to film it all. damned liberals

  172. Nelson_2008  April 24, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I just saw a video somewhere, where Silverstein was confronted with the fact that the NYFD denied the infamous “pull it” phone call about WTC7 with him. The look on that evil bastard’s face gave it all away – he stood there in a stunned silence with such a ghastly look of terror on his face – like a “deer caught in the headlights” x100.

    After seeing this, I think Silverstein may be one of the conspirators’ weakest links. This pampered Zionist coward would crack quickly if they brought him in for questioning (and did it the right way).

    I’m actually quite surprised that he hasn’t made “Aliyah” to Israel by now. The other conspirators must be a little nervous having him around.

  173. Gordon Duff  April 24, 2010 at 5:13 pm


    Your insecurities and lack of depth are showing.

  174. stevor  April 24, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    So, “the most liberal and “unpatriotic” of our politicians are now lined up with the supporters of Goldman Sachs” so that makes them bad. Then, “the most conservative and most liberal, are signed up against the President and the Pentagon, aligned with Israel” so that makes them bad. Since Israel is with Goldman Sachs to take over the world financial system, they are both bad. The “Tea Baggers”, who are for fiscal responsibility and going back to the Constitution are “bad”. Those against Palestine are bad. Those that create “false flag” attacks that get blamed on Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, or Afghanistan are bad. Those against Islam are bad.

    So it seems, that only leaves Islam, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan & Afghanistan to be “good”. Is that how you see it? Is there anybody/anything else “good”?

  175. Kenny  April 24, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    Correction: listed the Boxer Isakson Letter twice.

    Here’s the house letter signatories:


  176. Ryan  April 24, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    I took the liberty to repost a section of your article at the above link
    thanks for the intel

  177. barrie w.  April 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    we talked about these years ago. timing may prove to be very important. moreso, i would think, than location. interesting the pols, from both sides of the aisle, clamoring for strikes against iran. if indeed this dirty bomb is “in place”, then surely one or more of our 300 or 400 “security agencies” are complicit. this could really get ugly. or uglier, as the case may be.

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