Gordon Duff: Times Square Bombing Part of CIA False Flag Against Pakistan

CIA False Flag Operation Pakistan



By Unattributed Intelligence Sources for Veterans Today

Foreword by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Veterans Today realized some time ago that Pakistan would be the key to US security.  Toward that end, we formed a partnership with Opinion-Maker (www.opinion-maker.org), one of the most influential publications in that country and one that takes courageous stands in a country new to democracy.  Jeff Gates and I traveled to Pakistan this spring at the initiation of VT co-editor Raja Mujtaba.  While in Pakistan, we were briefed by the highest levels of the military and intelligence communities in what were frank and open exchanges.  These exchanges were open to a degree where considerable trust was shared and much of the information given could never be released.    Those agreements related to the lives and safety of American and Pakistani soldiers in the field and were based on relationships of honor and trust.  Those promises will be kept.

I can still tell my grandchildren that I had dinner with former ISI Chief Hameed Gul and tea with Colonel Imam, the famed intermediary with the Mujahideen now missing and presumed held prisoner by the Taliban.  In military circles, being able to claim former Chairman of Pakistan’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Sirohey a friend or being consulted by former Head of the Army General Beg is well up the “name dropping” scale.  It isn’t who you meet, it is what is done, what is contributed that counts.  Toward that end, these individuals and those we can’t name, along with Raja Mujtaba’s associates led by military strategist and author BG Asif Haroon Raja, Jeff and I felt we had a rare privilege and a rare look into the inner workings of Pakistan’s intelligence community. 

Our point was to make sure everyone could take the gloves off and let fly, say what they thought and not play journalist or whatever it is when America sends officials into Pakistan to be told what they want to hear.  Lack of status has its rewards at times and this was one of those rare times when views and doubts could be expressed and shared.  This leads us to the document below.  What is it?

It comes from Pakistan and bears the seal of approval of, well, I know where it comes from.  How it is taken and what is done is another story.  I have been assured that witnesses, recordings and such exist.  I recognize the methodologies used and attributed to American intelligence agencies.  I also see the untold hand of India and Israel, names not included for reason of, frankly, survival.

The reader can see truth if it is there or, as so often is the case, see truth but feel overwhelmed and helpless, knowing that America can be duplicitous and that nothing is as it seems.  You are going to be told that the CIA is responsible for the Time Square bombing, knows as the “Time Square Fizzler.”  Many suspected it, the CIA or the CIA with their constant companions in idiocy, the Israeli Mossad, a name that no official in Pakistan will mention to their paymasters in Washington for fear of offense.

No mention of a 65 billion dollar per year drug trade is made either but I strongly suggest that, where appropriate, a texture, a backdrop be constructed that includes mercenary contractors, Mossad and RAW agents and a sea of drug cash.  The story itself is simple, a tale of betrayal.  Why would the US have an intelligence agency involved in such convoluted plots as seen below?  What is the role of Israel or India?  How much of what is going on is driven by so many other concerns, not just drugs but religion, jealousy and hate?

What is clear, or should be is that what is done, what has been done did not serve the security of the United States.  Another agenda was there.  Security services that Americans pay tens, even hundreds of billions of dollars per year to be protected by have, for decades, often answered to a different call, one related to power, criminalism and deceit.  Our culture is filled with such stories, none will be unfamiliar.

We can pretend it is just movie.  Keep telling yourself this.

And the story opens as follows:

BEEP: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
 Today at 7:51am
This looks like a tale of fiction and movies. But this is a real life drama unfolding in Pakistan around us.

The secret web of betrayal and treachery – The untold story of Khalid Khawaja, Hamid Mir, Mullah Barader and Faisal Shehzad

Any links between the three?? Seems impossible! But not in this high stakes State-sponsored dirty, sinister world of covert ops, double agents, sting operations and assassinations.

Lets start the story:

Americans have been trying to play a sinister game. They had penetrated into the ranks of Afghan Taliban especially into the Popalzai tribe and had cultivated a high level Afghan Taliban leader to be pitched against Mullah Umer. Basically, CIA was creating a “coup” within Taliban. Hold your breath, sit back and prepare yourself to know who this secret “CIA asset” within the Taliban was.. It was Mullah Barader! Yes, the same one captured in Karachi by ISI and US is desperate to have him.

The CIA plan was that Mullah Barader would be brought to Karachi and then ISI would be tipped to arrest him. Then US were to ask the custody of the Afghan leader and Pakistan government would hand over the Afghan Talib leader to US. The result would be catastrophic for Pakistan as all pro-Taliban elements would then condemn ISI and Pakistan as CIA puppets and a serious breach of trust and confidence would appear between Pakistani security establishment and Afghan Mujahideen. This would also humiliate army and ISI in front of the nation. CIA and US administration were extremely upset when ISI refused to hand over Mullah Barader to US, despite the pressure from Zardari mafia. ISI initially did not know the CIA game. They just refused to hand over Barader to US and insisted upon their own interrogation first. Unknowingly, ISI was seriously damaging the US game plan of staging a coup against Mullah Omar as well as against ISI. During the interrogation, the entire game became exposed to the ISI.

The Zardari clan was equally desperate to hand over Barader to US. Here, enters Khalid Khawaja!

Out of his love for Taliban, unknowingly that he is entering to a global game of espionage and betrayal, KK filed a petition into the SC taking a stay order against handing over of Mullah Barader to US. Now US were furious. KK had signed his death warrant and now was marked for death.

KK (Khalid Khawaja) had been going to North Waziristan and dealing with TTP, trying his best to start a reconciliation process between Pakistan and TTP. He was also aware of the fact that a “Lashkar Jhangvi” faction of TTP was opposed to these attempts at peace talks. These include Ilyas Kashmiri gang commonly called Punjabi Taliban. When KK was returning from talks with Hakim Ullah Mehsud, he was invited by Punjabi Taliban group and taken prisoner along with Col Imam and Asad Qureshi, the journalist.

Initially, TTP was unaware of KK and his party’s being taken prisoner by the Punjabi Taliban. Later, when Hakeem Ullah Mehsud came to know of the drama, he tried to secure the release of the men. But then, enters another treacherous character from Geo TV.

Hamid Mir, makes a call to the Punjabi Taliban and ask them not to release KK and instigates them to assassinate KK as a spy! Hamid Mir, talks to Punjabi Taliban (PT) in detail and this entire conversation is recored by the PT and the tape is taken to HakimUllah Mehsud. The allegations, charges and accusations against KK which were leveled by Hamid Mir were so severe that HakimUllah Mehsud also fell for the trap and allowed the execution of KK after making him read the confessional statement which was exactly what Hamid Mir had dictated to the PT. This tape is now available and is the most direct incriminating evidence against Hamid Mir. It is clear that Hamid Mir was launched by Americans to use his influence on the TTP and PT to get KK assassinated. It was done with precision, except for one blunder – the tape is now with Pakistani secret services.

The American desire is to wage a war in North Waziristan against Haqqani / Afghan Taliban networks. Pakistan army is not willing to do that. Americans tried to use Mullah Barader to create serious mistrust and hatred between Afghan Taliban and Pakistan army. That was failed when Barader was not handed over to US and Khalid Khawaja unknowingly became a major setback for the Americans when he took a court order against Barader’s extradition. Khalid was trapped and Hamid Mir was used to mislead TTP into assassinating KK. But in the end, the US plan of waging a war in North Waziristan fizzles out.

Now a backup plan was required to create reasons to initiate a war into North Waziristan. – Here enter Faisal Shehzad – a false flag operation to implicate Pakistani Taliban and then threaten and force Pakistan to “do more” in North Waziristan! Another Pakistani is arrested in Chile in the US embassy with traces of explosives on his luggage and clothes. More Pakistanis are being arrested and a massive media disinformation war is being launched that all global terrorism is emerging from Pakistani tribal pocket of North Waziristan and ISI/army is either hands and gloves with Taliban or nor willing to do more.

So now, you understand the tone, language and demeanor of Hillary and US media over Faisal Shehzad! Despite the fact that US army Generals have confirmed that Faisal had no links with anyone in FATA.

Pakistan was being setup for a possible geopolitical disaster. Allah protected Pakistan. US and Indians through their assets in Media and in terrorist groups continue to kick dust and deceive the world and Pakistani nation. But now, this time at least, their game is exposed.



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64 Responses to "Gordon Duff: Times Square Bombing Part of CIA False Flag Against Pakistan"

  1. Tariq  June 22, 2010 at 7:31 am

    The only option left with Americans is to end the occupation.

  2. Gordon Duff  May 23, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    quality text, highly informative but not reflective of India’s massive military power and their heavy handed actions against muslims in kashmir. however, i am greatly appreciative of what you write.

  3. Gordon Duff  May 23, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Ilove the name…from the movie Porkies.
    You are a funny person, not “ha ha” funny, just…funny.

  4. Gordon Duff  May 23, 2010 at 10:07 am

    About Kashmir
    Can’t we be honest about this. India has no business in Kashmir in the first place. Everyone knows this.

  5. Kashmari Pandits  May 23, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Kashmir News Network is shocked and saddened by the latest massacre of Kashmiri Hindus at the hands of Pakistani terrorists. There is plenty of blame to share between India’s central government and the state government of Jammu and Kashmir for lack of action against both the sponsors in Pakistan and the local proxies who carry out ISI directives. The new state government’s appeasement policies have only strengthened the resolve of terrorists to intensify ethnic cleansing and target pro-India elements in the state. The central government, on its part, has shown even less capacity of tackling terror. At a time when the US policy of pre-emption is being applied to Iraq, India’s Deputy PM L. K. Advani is talking about visiting the US to discuss Pakistan. Does India expect President Bush to take care of its national security? If so, PM Atal Behari Vajpayee should renounce his post and welcome a US viceroy as the new leader of India.

    It is clear that the Kashmir problem of terrorism, exported by the world’s premier terrorist sponsor Pakistan, will not be resolved by either Indian impotence or the appeasement policies of state leaders who are themselves tainted by previous dalliances with Pakistani terrorists. At the most, the Indian government will make louder noises in the run-up to elections, and even send its army to the border for a meaningless deployment that will be withdrawn after elections. In the meanwhile, nearly 400,000 Kashmiri Hindus remain in limbo in degrading refugee camps, and naive international media refers to the state as “Muslim Kashmir”.

  6. Gordon Duff  May 18, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Like everyone, or just some people there?
    Can I get a discount on something? Car rental?

  7. Hassan  May 18, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Pakistan and the UAE also support Gordon .

  8. Edward Rynearson  May 17, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Great site Gordon. I listened to you on Kevin Barrett’s radio program this past Saturday. You can listen to it here:


  9. Sahal  May 16, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Are you aware that Colonel Imam has been released and is back home, thankfully he was not harmed because he is important and his services in the end game are required.

    Gordon perhaps you should look up the Blind Sheikh and his dealing with the CIA to understand the complexity of hiring and recruiting muslims for geopolitical cause and the Blind Sheiks great role in this.

    http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=blind+sheikh&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go’ defer=’defer

    http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=afghanistan+pakistan&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go’ defer=’defer

  10. Gordon Duff  May 16, 2010 at 10:28 am

    yes, I know hameed gul, have spoken with him for hours. Let’s say this: Gul knows what is going on, he is a brilliant guy. There are few people in the world I enjoy fighting with as much as Gul. If real progress is going to be made, it requires people with the power of intellect and honesty, at a level at least, of Gul. He is utterly fearless and, perhaps ruthless too.
    India could trust Gul. He is nobody’s puppet.
    Gul has outstanding sources. So do I. Sitting up comparing notes with Gul is fasctinating. Behind what he seems, and I do understand your point, is a man I believe as a good heart. Just look around, at the corruption and deceit. I have far more friends in India than Pakistan. It isn’t just Pakistan that needs to change. India is massively corrupt and now tied to Israel, a marriage that will be a disaster to India.

  11. Arun  May 16, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Re: Hamid Gul:

    “Asked by Zakaria, “What is your hunch as to who did – who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?,” Gul responded, “Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.””

    Is it the position of veteranstoday.com that 9/11 was an inside job?

  12. Arun  May 16, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Let us look at what Khalid Khawaja said in June 2005 to Asia Times.
    How does it square with the narrative being promoted by Gordon Duff?
    Why is Khalid Khawaja publicly saying that ISI strategy is bad?

    Why is Gordon Duff promoting Hamid Gul’s theories? Do the readers here even know who Hamid Gul is and what he stands for?


    KK: ….Ninety percent of people accept to be ruled, but there always remain some elements who refuse to succumb. They fight for freedom and resist till their last. However, in this conflict of two minorities – those who impose their will and those who resist it – the majority remains the sole victim. Yet people talk about Islam versus Christianity or Judaism. The basic theme remains the same. There is a group of people who want to impose their will, whether they happen to be Christian or Muslim, and there is a group of people who want to resist, and there is a silent majority which is trampled in between.

    This is exactly the interpretation when we talk about Pakistan and India in the perspective of Kashmir. In fact, Pakistan was never sincere with Kashmiris. It was a selfish military strategic maneuver to bleed India. Whatever was done, it was for “Pakistanism”. Meaning to impose Pakistan’s strategic agenda in the region. We just used religion and jihad. It was just a ploy to engage Indian forces in Kashmir and keep their financial resources squeezed.

    ATol: Did not Pakistan morally support the Kashmiri struggle so that the Muslim population would get its rights?

    KK: What are you talking about? Indian Muslims enjoy more rights than Muslims enjoy in Pakistan. There are hundreds of Pakistani people, including army-men, clerics, scholars and common people, who have been missing from their homes for over two years. It is a known fact that they were picked up by intelligence agencies. They were never tried in any court of law. Several of them were killed without any trail. Even the British system of justice during British India days was better, when nobody was kept in detention without trial. We ask, okay, don’t give us the rights that free nations have, but at least give us those rights people had during the time of the British Raj.

    A few years ago, a Muslim was picked by an Indian intelligence agency. Prominent Muslim leader and scholar Maulana Asad Madani met the governor of the province and protested. The governor said that this kind of interrogation was common in Pakistan, “So why do you protest in India?” Asad Madani reminded the governor in very strong words that this was not Pakistan, but India, and one had to produce a person in court, so eventually the Muslim was produced. …..


  13. Mike Hunt  May 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm


  14. Gordon Duff  May 15, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    The tired cover story that Gulbadin Hikmatyar, CIA paymaster in Afghanistan, paid for 9/11 is myth. The only money I saw came from Saudi and was paid out by an FBI agent. More has been tracked down to Israel, paid out thru a division, kroll, of AIG.
    I can name all those involved, if anyone cared.

  15. ThomasJefferson2  May 15, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Does anyone remember who financed the 9/11 bombers? Oops it was Pakistan. We fight for the Saudi royal family in a Persian Civil War is the real truth. They have the money and we’ve been giving it to them for 60+ years, and now they are protecting it. The government has lied to the people who fight for it since before the government was official in every single war we have had since Jamestown. Peace!

  16. Archie Haase  May 15, 2010 at 11:41 am

    The day after 9/11 I also said Pakistan would be the key to US security. I also said Pakistan would be nuked by the US if it did not get it’s country in control. I was very wrong in my assessment.

    I was wrong in thinking Pakistan was alone in it’s problems. I did not take into consideration the broader focus of India’s involvement in destabilizing Pakistan. Now I believe India and Pakistan have to bring peace to it’s border, before a peace can be reached domestically in Pakistan. Next we have Afghanistan.

    In order for peace to be reached in Afghanistan among what needs to be done is bring peace to Pakistan. I am not sure Hillery Clinton knows this, or even cares. I think she and Washington including Obama want short term media generated and displayed solutions to long range difficult problems.

  17. Lese Majeste  May 15, 2010 at 5:50 am

    One of the few things that makes Israel nervous are what the MSM has labeled ‘Muslim Nukes’ in Pakistan.

    But why get into a fight with your ‘existential’ enemies when you can sucker your best friend and ‘ally?’

    Israel wants the USA to stay in the ME and SW Asia for the next six decades, fighting perpetual war against those Israel deems as enemies so they can remain as the ME’s sole power and continue to steal what’s left of Palestine, hiding behind out “War on Terror.”

    While our country is sacrificing our troops, and our economy is sliding off a cliff supporting these wars and our precious Bill of Rights is being shredded–to fight those who hate our freedoms.

    Look at what nearly nine years of warfare has done to our country.

    Do you really think we can handle years and years more of this without falling apart?

    “Operation in Afghanistan is rooted in Israel” a video on Youtube at


    The new Pentagon papers

    A high-ranking military officer reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war.
    By Karen Kwiatkowski

    From May 2002 until February 2003, I observed firsthand the formation of the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans and watched the latter stages of the neoconservative capture of the policy-intelligence nexus in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. This seizure of the reins of U.S. Middle East policy was directly visible to many of us working in the Near East South Asia policy office, and yet there seemed to be little any of us could do about it.

    At the time, I didn’t realize that the expertise on Middle East policy was not only being removed, but was also being exchanged for that from various agenda-bearing think tanks, including the Middle East Media Research Institute, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.

    Among the other people arriving over the summer of 2002 was Michael Makovsky, a recent MIT graduate who had written his dissertation on Winston Churchill and was going to work on “Iraqi oil issues.” He was David Makovsky’s younger brother. David was at the time a senior fellow at the Washington Institute and had formerly been an editor of the Jerusalem Post, a pro-Likud newspaper. Mike was quiet and seemed a bit uncomfortable sharing space with us. He soon disappeared into some other part of the operation and I rarely saw him after that.


    Who was the director of the Office of Special Plans?

    Abram Shulsky

    Add in the Zionist think tanks and Israeli ‘hasbara’ ops like MEMRI, WINEP and JINSA, plus Likud party fifth columnists running the OSP that helped push the lies that scared Americans into invading Iraq, wrecking not only that country but ours and even a blind man can see what is going on here.

  18. Lese Majeste  May 15, 2010 at 5:26 am

    How do WE let these sick SOB’s get into the positions, and how do WE let them stay there???

    In a way, it’s damn near everyone’s fault that sleazy, money grubbing thieves, liars and mass murderers are in charge of Congress.

    We thought that knowing the score of last night’s ‘Big Game’ and wondering about Madonna, Paris and Britney were more important than following what the hell Congress was up to….but the MSM also plays a big part by ‘cherry picking’ news that fits a certain agenda.

    How do they stay?

    Through rigged elections worked out between the Dems and Repubs who will place some desingnated loser to run against one of the “good ‘ol boys” like what happened the last time Senator Joe Lieberman ran for reelection.

    And by stealing votes, like the Diebold/ESS computerized voting machines that hack the vote.

    Just ask ‘Junior,’ Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell.

  19. Paul  May 14, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    never happen Mark. America has been sown with so much division, racial, cultural, political, religious etc. The Nation itself is just a shell. It is in fact many nations within. Unity of national purpose is long gone and a complicit national media works to help keep it that way.

  20. Amy  May 14, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Please read “Facts are Facts” by Benjamin Freedman, “Guilt by Association” by Jeff Gates, “High Priests of War” by Michael Collins Piper and books by Alan Hart.

  21. Ellen  May 14, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    James, are sure you mean a democracy? A republic is what is supposed to respect the rights of the individual. A democracy is mob rule by the more powerful against the weaker individuals.

  22. lobo  May 14, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    The late, great apostate Zionist Benjamin Freedman said in 1961 to a patriotic crowd, “the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as if they were the absolute monarchs.” He also explained how they engineered (blackmail/bribery) our entry into WWI. Churchill laid the Russian Revolution at their feet in his article in the Sunday Herald of 8 Feb 1920. Major Jordan? USS Liberty?

    I would encourage readers not to get too worked up about “our” politicians cuz we don’t got none. Cynthia McKinney was pretty explicit in her interview with TIU Radio (http://theinfounderground.com/archives/TFC.TiU.SMITH.OGNIR.guest.Congresswoman.Cynthia.Mckinney.14-01-2010.mp3)

    We need to undo the Federal Reserve and establish a currency that works for the people not the bankers. Jefferson said it, Lincoln said it…it’s the fundamental issue.

    People can find the Freedman speech at iamthewitness.com. A MUST listen file.

  23. Dr. O. P. Sudrania  May 14, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Thanx Gordon. It is now clear. It explains all. But the ambiguity of Shahbaz’s story is still very mysterious. I have been following it very closely, of course from the various major news prints on internet. You would know better than me, indeed.

    Like the CIA/FBI team loosing track of him after the lunch, not keeping an eye on the Kennedy Airport, not following the “no-fly list” upto the Desk of
    the Airlines, Emirate Airlines failing to check his name on that list in time (was it a deliberate or just carelessness), suddenly tracking him on board that too when the plane was about to depart (this looks like a Holywood or Bollywood style operation), and there are quite a few such links
    that makes me feel that there is something seriously amiss somewhere. Of course, some threads prior to the few days on 1st May as well.

    US is certainly not very fair as regards the Af/Pak is concerned. Just a small example, US declared Sudan a terrorist country in early 1990s only because Osama bin Laden had taken refuse after fleeing from Saudi Arabia. But US is still sitting on Pakistan despite all these clandestine involvements in global terrors. Why?????

    They even recognise the fact that all the terror is germinated and exported from Pakistan. It is an allegation of the major world authorities including a good number of Muslim Scholars. They have flashed through news reels and have even written books on this very overt danger emanating from Pakistan. Still US is silently watching it.

    Even Rep. Gary Ackerman’s report on 11th March about Lashkar-e Taibba:A Bad Company; report where Senator Gary Ackerman has openly used very harse words about LeT and Pakistan in the House of Representatives; this was just on the heels of the “First Strategic Dialogue” with Pakistani high powered delegation on 23rd March in Washington with Ma’m Hillary Clinton.

    They feel that Afghanistan war is a local war, but in my opinion, it is a war splashed from Pakistan itself, enacted and masterminded by Pakistan Military/ISI duo. Pak civil leaders are just a silent puppets, spewing “His
    Master’s Voice”. Unless US fully concentrates on Pakistan while trying to stabilise Afghanistan, I am affraid, I see no sign of winding this Af war in the near future.

    US does not seem to have a definite planned strategy about it. The original aim is now lost, replaced with the residual civil purpose. More than anything, it is the Pakistan’s evil eye that is more a danger than Taliban. Of course India has her concerns so long as Pakistan nurtures “Hate India-Hate Hindu” attitude. No one can deny it. They are making India bleed through Kashmir. I have said it a few times, untill US wish, Pakistan will never allow this Kashmir issue to be solved. This is for sure.

    Even in this column, they have added the name of India ununderstandably. But
    understandable from the mindset prevailing in Pakistani hierarchy.

    Interesting game. Afghanistan has become a “Polo Ground” of the “Superpowers” where the Pakistan has become a partitioned “Referee”.

    Dr. O. P. Sudrania

  24. Archie Haase  May 14, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Robert I should have said if Obama came from an all black American family. Black Americans work against their own history much of the time.

    In my opinion. We see many times more foreign born blacks successful then black Americans with a slavery background. Forgive me if I am wrong. Blacks with slavery background fight against themselves.

    Again in my opinion this is why we heard so much cynicism coming from Mrs Obama about America during her husbands campaign.

    I have always sad if you want the truth about a politician ask an old black person. They have radar concerning a politicians worth.

  25. Archie Haase  May 14, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Robert you asked the question how do these people get into these positions. Over the years I met and have known some of these people. They get into these positions first because they get the very good academic credentials needed. They have been pushed since early life about how important education is. But more then this they know they need to attend the right schools. Both George Bush 1 and 2 is on my mind in regard to this.

    Do you think Obama transferred from a low ranking California school because it was cheaper going to Colombia? If Obama was from a all black family in Hawaii he might not have understood this.

    Next none of these people are shrinking violets. They are very proactive. They understand motivated to be part of the ruling class. They grew up hearing about how to gain and rule with power.

  26. Mark  May 14, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    You people need to have a revolution. the rich and the elite don’t give a shit about anyone.

  27. Gordon Duff  May 14, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Dr. Sudrania,
    I hoped I was clear. I only wrote the foreword. The story probably comes directly from the ISI.

  28. Dr. O. P. Sudrania  May 14, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    I would be inclined to believe the above story as told by you, because there are a
    good many threads in Shahbaz’s story that are still misty. This does help to clear
    some of the mist, if not fully. There is a verbatim word by word similar story by rohitkumarsviews quoted by Tony above. Has he copied your article or his source is the same as yours?

    Anyway, I would be grateful if you can kindly through some light on the following in the last two paras,”So now, you understand the tone, language and demeanor of Hillary and US media over Faisal Shehzad! Despite the fact that US army Generals have confirmed that Faisal had no links with anyone in FATA.

    Pakistan was being setup for a possible geopolitical disaster. Allah protected Pakistan. US and Indians through their assets in Media and in terrorist groups continue to kick dust and deceive the world and Pakistani nation. But now, this time at least, their game is exposed.”

    Now in the last but one, it is understandable from Hillary’s comments on CBS interview with Pelley. I never thought that she was sincere in her deliberations. But then that is why they are “Politicians”.

    However, in your last para, you mention, “US and Indians through their assets in Media and in terrorist groups continue to kick dust and deceive the world and Pakistani nation.” The whole post relates the US and Pakistan and Taliban and the
    Islamic extremists (directly or indirectly).

    How do you find the India being implicated in this unholy nexus between US and Pakistan. Whereas, as the scenario goes, India is herself a captive in this imbroglio and macabre dance. Then why leave the “Israel” out? It sounds very pertinent. Or does it just reflect the old theory of “Hate India” business?

    Dr. O. P. Sudrania

  29. Bahram  May 14, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    excellent 🙂
    iam just glad american people are not like their politicians and makers of foreign policy 🙂 alot americans r my frnds and there the best ppl u come across , u guys just need to bust the lies of the mainstream media with stuff like this 🙂 keep up the good work bro’s 🙂

  30. prancer  May 14, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    James, lots of good info…thanks for the link

  31. prancer  May 14, 2010 at 11:59 am

    g, the key to moving forward will be in conveying what we understand; without being labeled “haters/Nazis/fascists, etc.” I believe I have a very good understanding of the Jewish/Israeli gameplan and I don’t like it. The public have been “brainwashed”. In Lavrent Pavlovich Beria’ address to American student’s at the Lenin University on the topic of Russian Psychopolitics he stated, “…should independent researchers actually discover means to undo psychopolitical procedures, you must not rest, you must not eat or sleep, you must not stint one tiniest bit of available money or campaign against it, discredit it, strike it down and render it void. For by an effective means our actions and researches could be undone.” The textbook on Psychopolitics is extremely disturbing and should be viewed with great caution, nevertheless, it gives incredible insight into the challege of thwarting; and ultimately disabling this “curse”.

  32. sylvia t villalobos  May 14, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Story of betrayal, derived from cruel and sad reality , when all psychological considerations and internal bargaining cease to work as well as by reasoned or strategic reactions to opportunities and constraints, perceived in light of the US sadistic goals…a politically-motivated violence perpetrated against a non-combatant target.U.S conscious and desperate design “to create power where there is none or to consolidate power where there is very little left for them.

    Now that the secrecy of planning and the evident results is visible, illustrative of a more general phenomenon in which these whole crime and violence has created a veil of terror….when the Truth itself started to unfold .. where do we go from here? I hope the issue at hand will shed light to Pakistan quest for Truth

  33. sylvia t villalobos  May 14, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Story of betrayal, derived from cruel and sad reality , when all psychological considerations and internal bargaining cease to work as well as by reasoned or strategic reactions to opportunities and constraints, perceived in light of the US sadistic goals…a politically-motivated violence perpetrated against a non-combatant target.U.S conscious and desperate design “to create power where there is none or to consolidate power where there is very little left for them.

    Now that the secrecy of planning and the evident results is visible, illustrative of a more general phenomenon in which these whole crime and violence has created a veil of terror….when the Truth itself started to unfold .. where do we go from here? I hope the issue at hand will shed light to Pakistan quest for Truth.

  34. Rehmat  May 14, 2010 at 6:08 am

    Gordon if you read Pakistan history since its establishment on August 14, 1947 – you will find out that Israeli leaders have been calling for the destruction of that country which was established to be run under Islamic Shari’ah. Its founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah along with Mahatama Gandhi was dead against the partition of Palestine for the European Jews. Tel Aviv has since been using American Jewish lobbists and Zionist elites within Pakistan to achieve its agenda especially Pakistan becoming the only Muslim nuclear state.

    The assassinations of Pakistan’s first prime minister Liaquat Ali Khan, military dictator Zia ul-Haq, hanging of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, four military dictatorships in less than 60 years and breaking away of Eastern part of Pakistan into Bangladesh, are all part of US-Israel games.

    Here is of my understanding of some of Washington’s problems with Pakistan – as a Pakistan-born Canadian:

    Pakistan – the next ‘Rogue State’

  35. ahmed khan  May 14, 2010 at 6:02 am

    Thank you very much gordon for supporting Pakistan.

  36. James Laffrey  May 14, 2010 at 5:40 am

    I agree that the USA looks like the ultimate bad guy — that is, our leaders do.

    But we have to let go of our U.S.Syndrome that says the USA is Number 1 in everything. In one thing, we are not Number 1.

    When you follow the money instead of the political distractions and the counter-counter-counter intelligence, you find that 97 years of financial control is plenty of time to hoist up this holy hell we’re talking about here.

    Through MONEY, we can track it all to one source. That source has controlled the Bank of England for 100 years. That source created England’s dastardly MI5 and 6, our CIA, and Israel and Mossad. That’s right: created Israel, and of course created Mossad.

    We have to know that first. After we know that, then we know the true enemy, and then we can defeat that enemy.

    I invite you to click on my name above.

  37. Gordon Duff  May 14, 2010 at 5:38 am


    It is a “leak” from the Pakistani ISI.
    I wouldn’t print it without comment. My impression is that it is true but not comprehensive.

  38. James Laffrey  May 14, 2010 at 5:15 am

    We have a lot of agreement here. Great.

    Please allow me to offer another article currently at the top of this website:


    Because it not only lays out the truth that you agree with, but the website also offers us the only practical nonviolent solution.

    It’s a plan to achieve a true representative democracy in 2012.

    NOW we have a historic opportunity, mostly because of the tool we’re using right now: the Internet. Let’s do it before the Internet becomes a casualty.

  39. Gordon Duff  May 14, 2010 at 4:52 am

    Jeff, Jimmie and I have been talking about going back. First of all, of course, is money. You don’t get money for these things unless someone else feels they have something to gain. I have not been particularly kind to Pakistan, perhaps not as they would have liked. Think about it, what is a journalist? It is like spying, except you rat to the public instead of some private group….like you would be doing if you worked for the bankster/CIA.
    All our damned governments do is protect the scams of a small number of people, smaller every day, that are destroying us all.
    Obviously, this article came from an intelligence agency and was sent to me. I stuck comments on it and printed it. It is news.
    As for State, we are journalists, not out there conducting foreign policy or advocating. I hate public speaking, both hate it and love it. I was talking at a university. I got to the podium, pulled off my jacket, yanked my tie open, rolled up my sleeves and said, “This is how American politicians pretend to be “one of the people.” What they saw was a circus act from a would be southern preacher…me at heart….deconstructing belief systems. With jeff and raja with me, we could put out a powerful message. You know what it is. We can’t play with these boys anymore, be it Israelis or whoever. it isn’t just israel, they are simply the number one assholes out there today.
    Our oligarchy or whatever we call it is made up of people who really believe they aren’t going to die. they must. they live like rats, scavengers. Our entire government is filled with them as is our miltiary.
    We can’t change them nor can we change the idiots and slaves that keep them in power.
    All we can do is educate a few, something all of us here are doing in our own way. We are identifying a group that can initiate basic change because we understand.

  40. Blackcoat  May 14, 2010 at 2:32 am

    I shall put it short and not sweet. The people that we vote in to run this country are # one assholes. They shit on us and shit on us. And the reason that they shit on us is because we allow them to shit on us.
    The key word in your post is “politics as it is has to stop.” and “forget what party they belong to and vote for the ones………” Our problems here in America is that we vote blind, blind meaning that my political party is right and yours is wrong. Semper Fidelis. Blackcoat.

  41. GORDON:

    You probably can’t admit publicly whether the State Dept. or our friends in the ‘covert opns game’ had you under surveillance the moment you began to negotiate with high level Pakistani military and intelligence leadership BEFORE you even set foot in their country. We have already discussed the security measures your friends in PAK had to take to keep your meetings “survivable”.
    With that being said, if your contacts allow you another visit, and the State Department doesn’t waltz in and ask for your passport & travel visa before hand, may we all thank you for your courage and vision towards the pursuit of the first casualty in any war – TRUTH. Someday, you’ll have to write a book about all of this. My sense of BAD deja vu over who controls the flow of ca$h from the opium > heroin production & smuggling racket over there is based on the golden triangle of Burma/Thailand & Laos back in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s precendent.

  42. ulysees  May 14, 2010 at 1:05 am

    You’re certainly right regarding Kennedy. America is an experiment, a failed one. It’s time to start over. This one cannot be repaired. The Corporation must go. The CIA must go. Interest
    on money must go. The documents regarding Kennedy’s murder are sealed for 75 years in the interest of National/Oligarch security… why do we tolerate the Electoral College? Transparency in all areas needs to become reality. First and foremost we must save the Planet from us.
    With Transparency in all matters security and terrorism will no longer be relevant. The banking system has no value in a free society and neither does homelessness , with Transparency neither of them will exist. Wealth?? what for ?? We’re at the end of this cycle of endless, meaning less invasions of innocent lands in order to steal their property, how silly and simple-minded is that, the ” new crusade ” . Yes we have to come up with a new method of exchange , so the private corporation known as the Fed is finished, centralisation of anything will now end. We are about to become free thinking humans once again. Do not
    comply with any so called authority that does not represent your values, there’s alot of bogasity out there, its up to us to keep our world in line… see the best in each and every one and each and every day.

  43. vinnie  May 14, 2010 at 12:57 am

    I can say one thing. and it is coming. REBELLION. what else is their if all else fails. when will all people wake up to see that the people of america have been screwed. governments are born to lie to their people. who needs government when they screw everybody. please answer. you can not because it is the truth.

  44. ROBERT VNVET 11thcav  May 14, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Thanks Gordon, you do the best job of keeping us informed out of all the other writers, KEEP UP THE GOOD REPORTING, Brother!!!!

    Been useing a lot of the information you have been giving during my fight with DVA.. Some of it has already helped, again Good Job sir…

  45. prancer  May 13, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Robert, you have alot of company following your line of thinking; and, frustration level. Something good that just happened: The Senate voted unanimously to authorize an examination of the Federal Reserve. You can google Senate Bill 3217. I came across an article on http://www.msnbc.msn.com entitled, “Senate adds Fed audit to financial reform bill”. It definitely DOES NOT go far enough, but it’s a start. The most important thing WE THE PEOPLE can do to correct the multitude of problems in this country is to ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE. Ron Paul is the only politician with big enough gonads to do this…he’ll need the U.S. military PROTECTING HIM in order to get ‘er done. There is no doubt in my mind that Kennedy was assasinated for attempting to accomplish this.

  46. Gordon Duff  May 13, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Excellent analysis.

  47. ROBERT VNVET 11thcav  May 13, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    How do WE let these sick SOB’s get into the positions, and how do WE let them stay there??? It’s clear that they do nothing but HURT the rest of us, and yet WE put up with their CRAP…

    And why is it that they spend millions and millions of dollars on running for an office that only pays them a couple of hundred grand a year??? I know they get kick backs, which should be against the law, and they make money for all the behind the closed door deals, and it goes on and on… How do WE the people let this happen and WE pay the bills… WE fight their bullshit wars, we pay taxes on top of taxes, and it still isn’t enough…. If We the people don’t smarten up and fast, and start to do something about all the crap going on in WASHINGTON, there’s not going to be nothing left in this country that is owned buy US anymore…

    Those of you that have been put through the ringer by the DVA know what I’m talking about… If they are any example of what WASHINGTON thinks of the the American people and what our future looks like, this whole country will be and is in some cases already is being treated just like the way the DVA treats us Veterans…

    We have a chance in the near future to start doing something about these crooks running this country, forget what party they belong to, and vote for the ones that will make the changes needed to make this country strong again… I know that the ones that support us Veterans and will do whatever it takes to fix the DVA and start to treat us like humans, instead of second class citizens, they are the only ones I will vote for, screw the rest, they’re screwing us..

    All I know is this Crap has to stop, crap like what’s in this article, has to stop. Politics as it is has to stop.. WE need to stop it, and stop it now…

  48. Mark Are  May 13, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    BoldWeaver you are dealing with PSYCHOPATHS when it comes to MOST politicians. Google, Beware the Psychopaths my Son…

  49. spentforce  May 13, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    10 ROGER THAT, BoldWeaver.

  50. BoldWeaver  May 13, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    I imagine your site is getting hit hard and often today Gordon. I am one of those people overwhelmed. I am a slow learner. This time next year I will have all the players in the right place, connected to all the main game players.

    We veterans at least most of us know the military has a code of honor carrying us through our lives. Political s like Mrs Clinton do not share this code. For them to be deceitful, arrogant and multifaced is not a problem. They are politicians, and modern ones at that. Cold ruthless, and deadly to American values.

    While veterans w ere fighting in the war in Vietnam she was pompously at Wellesley college how to be elite and aloof. Sadly she is now part of this evil crew.

    She became good at being arrogant as years went on. This is where I have more respect for Jane Fonda. Jane believed in something larger then herself. Hillery believes in nothing but herself and what she can get. She is a political whore.

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