Gordon Duff: Pakistan’s Role In Afghanistan

THE KEY TO PAKISTAN’S SECURITY IS AFGHANISTAN

THE KEY TO AFGHANISTAN’S SECURITY IS PAKISTAN

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

US policy in Afghanistan hasn’t so much failed as it hasn’t even materialized.  With the original rationale for overthrowing the Taliban their relationship with Osama bin Laden now long forgotten, buried with, not only the death of bin Laden many years ago but much more.  No ties between bin Laden and 9/11 have ever been established, none of the training camps seen in the online videos existed anywhere but in fiction, truth is such a delicate thing.  Children in Afghanistan are taught to be fighters from birth.  Training an Afghan to fight is like training a fish to swim.

The legacy of Karzai and Hollbrooke and McChrystal, pointless posturing, mismanagement, a deluge of narcotics and a sea of corruption have spelled failure, a failure from the first days, a failure in Marjeh, and more failures to come.  The result of these failed polices is more delegitimization and debt for the US and destabilization and terrorism for Pakistan, but it has been far worse for the tribal regions of both Afghanistan and Pakistan. 

The explosion of terrorism has come with a variety of causes, beginning with the collapse of the Taliban, flawed though it may have been as a government, it governed, eliminated drug production and brought stability.  The arrogance of the Taliban was misconstrued by the United States, misconstrued purposefully by a government looking to point a finger of blame somewhere for 9/11, point away from Israel, away from Saudi Arabia and away from themselves.  The Taliban in Afghanistan made the perfect “fall guy.”

Whatever government the Taliban was, built partially from the Mujahideen fighters the US and Pakistan armed against the Soviet backed Kabul regime in the 80s, the Taliban had become inconsistent with the needs of the majority of the people of Afghanistan, certainly the northern tribes, now overrepresented through Karzai and his Indo-Israeli connections.  The Taliban were destined to fail Afghanistan’s women who not only deserve education but also full participation in national life.  With so many of Afghanistan’s most talented having fled the Soviet occupation, every human resource is a vital one.

Pakistan had understood the Mujihideen and many of their military had built strong relations there.  That was decades ago, decades that mean much more in Afghanistan than the west.  There, almost two generations have past and allegiances are only a memory.  The desire many in Pakistan have expressed, to see an American withdrawal and the return to a stability from the past is unrealistic, as that stability is from a past that may never have existed nor can it be created.  The Russian occupation wiped out any remnants of a cohesive Afghanistan. 

What was Afghanistan?

There is an intimacy and stability to a traditional tribal culture.  It is almost impossible to explain to someone from the west how scientists and educators, the intellectual elite of Afghanistan, the “technocrats” were and are never intended to rule.  When the west compares its democracy, it fails to see in a realistic way how its own leaders are selected.  They are never the strong, seldom the best and certainly not the brightest.  The characteristics most valued in a leader in the west are worthless in Afghanistan.  Telling people what they want to hear while doing nothing and pleasing those with money means nothing in a tribal culture.  It should mean nothing in the west either.  Perhaps this is why America is failing so miserably.  Maybe this is why the west chose Karzai, he is so much like a western leader.

Afghanistan is dozens of families in a complex weave that goes back centuries.  Alliances that can still hold a people together were established, some hundreds of years ago, alliances being restored all over Afghanistan including critical areas in the south.  What can be reestablished is a traditional value system that can survive with a constitution and full rights for women in a country that can trade more than opium.  That business, the drug business that has filled Kabul with human vermin from around the world brought to Afghanistan like flies to a festering wound, has to go, that and everything built around it.  Drug lords and gun culture are not tribal culture.

Why Pakistan and Afghanistan

Afghanistan is largely Pashtun but can only survive with an inclusive government offering full participation and respect to every group.  The current  US sponsored disaster has put the label of “terrorist extremist” on 25 million citizens, only a few of whom are criminal terrorists who would resist a legitimate government, something America forgot to bring in its bag of tricks.  Pakistan survives similarly, a nation with a large number of Pashtuns, though a minority in a country of over 180 million. 

Where tribal unity could stabilize both countries, economic collapse, drug lords, criminals and terrorists have created an untenable situation.  Corruption and economic collapse, Pakistan and Afghanistan, has left large regions subject to radicalization, extremism and violence.  Adding to this problem, foreign elements profiting off the drug trade in Afghanistan and looking for the collapse of Pakistan feed this terrorism with arms, training and logistical support. 

The countries suffering from terrorism are Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Their destabilization feeds the short term needs of India, Israel, American intelligence agencies and the arms industry, groups that influence everything from American foreign policy to actual terrorist attacks in ways the mainstream media never reports.  Long term regional stability has fallen to the wayside through lack of  leadership and a platform for constructive dialog, a dialog that should include, not only India, Afghanistan and Pakistan but Israel, Iran, Russia and China as well.  All have critical issues in the region and, under assurances their security issues are addressed, have the potential of lending critical resources to addressing the stability of Afghanistan.

What is Realistic?

President Karzai will not step aside without an honorable exit.  Though he has been unable to rule and his attempts to bring the Taliban to the table have not met with success, his attempts do him justice.  However, failure to rule is inexcusable.  Bush held on for 8 years of one disaster after another, dragging America down, the most powerful nation in the history of earth.  Karzai’s failures have been in the presence of a greater and perhaps insurmountable challenge, while no alternative form of rule was possible. 

A decade of lessons, senseless slaughter, billions spent, billions wasted has altered perceptions everywhere.  Peace and security, seen by a previous American administration as a hindrance more than a goal, are now necessities.  Profitable chaos is a luxury few will be allowed to afford without chickens coming home to roost.

It is in the air, hidden among the threats are the promises.  The feelers are out, nobody has survived ten years of conspiracy and insanity unscathed, no matter how their balance sheets look.  The massive paper gains for the few never manifest themselves as nation building or security.  This year, the doors will creep open.

34 Replies to “Gordon Duff: Pakistan’s Role In Afghanistan”

  1. Now this is just wrong (and scary). What would provoke this to be happening? Oooppps….never mind. If I ask too many questions, I’ll be on some domestic terrorist list..

  2. How many of our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq do actually know that Israel did 9/11–which gave US warmongers the excuse to start wars in the Middle East for the benefit of Israel–at the expense of sweat, blood, limbs and lives of the American soldier–who has now become the property of Israel and the property of warmongers [who are among the power elite in America–and America has been hijacked by a ruthless group of criminals who had a clear agenda to take America in the downward path of destruction–and waging war is an essential element in that scheme]. It is time for each soldier and each one of us on their behalf and on behalf of America to start shouting from rooftops: “no more wars for Israel and no more aid for Israel”.

    Who are the culprits that are responsible for planting land mines that have killed our soldiers? These culprits are the same criminals who are working behind-the scenes–to destroy humanity through well orchestrated crimes of all sorts and waging war is a huge part of it.

    Our soldiers have every right to question the legitimacy of wars they have been sent to fight. Time and again they have been lied to. When do we expect the next Israeli Mossad/Ashkenazi CTA orchestrated false flag?

    CIA/Mossad controlled terrorists working for the dictators Michael Bloomberg, Joseph Leiberman, Bill Krystol and others in the organized Jewry–-already set-up the Time Square fizzle bomb not just the Detroit crotch bomber on Christmas day [to maliciously pervert this Christian holiday] as part of false flag operations–to control Americans and take more of our freedoms and individual liberties–-to sell more body scans to irradite DNA to cause cancer while also making millions of dollars–as well as start another new war aimed at destroying Iran.

    Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer, Joseph Lieberman, Rahm Emanuel et al are at work already to go after real Americans using this CIA orchestrated NY fizzle bomb.
    Israel and the organized Jewry are getting increasingly impatient [and restless to start the next war (with Iran) and appear to be testing the waters] and their Christian pimps and prostitutes are working hard too–to convince Americans that America should go to war with Iran for Israel and/or we should give Israel the green light to strike Iran [and then come to Israel’s rescue thereby completing the operation]. And none of this is in America’s interests and we should have nothing to do with Israel and their dirty operations.

    A man by the name of Mike D. Evans [a Zionist Jews who has become a fake Christian] who describes himself as “the only non-military minister to visit Iraq three times in the last 12 months” is mailing out letters in a massive mail campaign to millions of US households. This man is a warmonger who is hell-bent on destroying yet another innocent country [Iran]. He has written a book “The Final Move beyond Iraq”. His mail included an article by him titled “Israel may have to strike Iran”. He is asking “to rush your gift of $144 or the best gift you can send, so I can continue to be your representative. Together we can stand in the gap for God’s Chosen People. (The Almighty will bless His people with peace.)Under divine appointment and he signs– Michael D. Evans”.

    “P.S. In this crisis hour do not miss this divine moment to step into the annointing of the hundredfold blessing. If you cannot give $144 perhaps you can send $72 or $36. Any amount would be a tremendous help. Please rush the Save Jerusalem survey back to me immediately with your hundredfold gift” His address: Save Jerusalem, Processing Center P.O Box 527 Forest VA 24551-0527. He in the letter writes “while in Israel I cried out to the Lord for His protection”.
    This was the last paragraph in his letter which he has been mailing out to millions of people: “I want to send you a copy of my NY Times best-selling book, The Final Move beyond Iraq. This is the purpose driven book that America is reading. Mike Huckabee, former governor of AK and 2008 presidential candidate said, “The Final Move beyond Iraq is a great book, one that every American should read.” In it I draw from extensive interviews with prime ministers, CIA directors and other insiders. A Persian revolution is spreading and is on the brink of becoming America’s greatest threat since the Civil War. This book is a wake-up call to mobilize millions to action!” Please check out this man’s website.

    Christians, this is the kind of murderer and criminal the Christian Church tolerates today–another man like Hagee who has invested his life energy in activities to bring about ethnic cleansing of Muslims for the benefit of Israel. This man should not be allowed to visit our soldiers that gives him the opportunity to manipulate and brainwash them while they are away from their family in an extremely stressful environment.

    I ask all Christians to rise against this liar, this agitator, this false prophet, this warmonger as well as all others like him. It is time Christians question the Christian Church and the false propaganda it is spreading to Christians and others. Please ask yourself the question: how Christian it is to kill Arabs and other Muslims? Christians it is time to say NO to all illegal wars and to bring our troops home and Leave Israel Alone to fend for itself and to say “we Christians have no part at all in the crimes Israel and organized Jewry perpetrate on America and other nations”.

    What we need is a government that is sensitive to the needs of the American people. We need congressmen and senators to whom America is first, second and third—and who can stand up to the tyrant Israel that is bleeding America and we need real Americans as high-ranking military officers instead of Zionist Jews and Israelis.

    Let me be clear to all warmongers that we cannot afford any more wars because we are bankrupt, we have been looted by the Zionist bankers and we have lost thousands of our young men fighting wars for Bill Krystol, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Jay Sekulow, Ben Stein, David Horowitz, the Zionist Jewish senators and congressmen and other members of the organized Jewry and Zionist Israel.

    What is most important is to understand our real problem: Jewish Supremacy, politician whores and prostitute pastors who support it and unwillingness of the Christian Right to confront it head on and the conservative and liberal warmongers on the airwaves for 24 hours of the day selling us the wars for Israel.

    Please read the article entitled (1) “The Violent Radicalization of Israel” (2) “Christian Zionism Will Kill Populist Revolt” by Pastor Ted Pike [Truthtellers.org/National Prayer Network] and please support him generously. He does not keep on asking for money but we need to take care of his financial needs so that he can continue to do this important work which other useless, spineless Christian pastors–and other so called “leaders” and false prophets refuse to do. Please also read the article: “Psychopaths United for Israel” by Keith Johnson
    Pastor Ted Pike is so right in understanding about the damage organized Jewry is doing to America and I thank him for his honesty and courage to write and speak the truth thereby stand up to the real culprits who have dismantled America through various mechanisms–bankrupting America–causing division between various groups of her people–destroy her culture–corrupt the young [and the old]–bringing despair to all–while benefiting from it.
    America wake up to the truth! Your enemy is not the boogie man Osma Bin Laden and Arabs and other Muslims even if Zionist Joseph Farah [Arab himself] tells you so. America did not reach the edge of .this monstrous cliff in a day. It is not the Democrats or the Republicans but most politicians on both parties who favored Israel over America on behalf of the Jewish supremacists [liberals and neoconservatives who really have no party line but lust for money and power to control others and love to see blood and dead bodies everywhere]. They are wolves in sheep clothing who work together to achieve their set goals from different platforms. Please read “Princess Diana was killed for planning to expose senior Brits involved in the land mine trade” , Daily Mail.

    Members of the organized Jewry have hijacked every aspect of the American life and they sabotage people who criticize them. They intrude into their web activities, block their email, try to crash their computers, intercept their phone, tamper with their mail and spy on their life. Ashkenazi propaganda is every- where in order to manipulate people and I have seen this happening in American colleges and universities. Zionist Jews have hijacked our educational system [among many other things in addition to looting our banks] and through the quota-system of social engineering–have deprived majority of the white race from getting a higher education from prestigious institutions of higher learning. For instance the so called Ivy League universities are filled with them at every level. The poisonous Jewish political organization known as “Hillel” that operates [under the guise of a religious organization] across college and university campuses in the US brainwash and manipulate blacks, black and other Muslims, Asians and other minorities against America, white people and Christianity– while greedy, ego-centric and spineless Christian pastors are selling the soul of Christianity by pandering to Zionist Israel and organized Jewry–while also misguiding the church attending Christian population. How many of them have been bribed by the Jews?

    America wake up! You have been hijacked by a ruthless group of criminals hellbent on destroying you and your children and generations to be born. They are after your blood ant sweat. Michael Bloomberg and his tribe want illegal immigrants to destroy you, your homes and businesses. It is not Osma Bin Laden and Muslims. It is Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer, Joseph Lieberman, Rahm Emanuel et al–the Zionist pastors, fraudulent Heritage Foundation and other think tanks–other traitors and criminals like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and pastors like John Hagee, Mike Huckabee and Pat Robertson

    This is a wakeup call!

  3. I listened to gordon’s radio interview with kevin barrett in which he gave his approval of Imran Khan.

    I think Khan would be the best leader Pakistan can have at this moment in time.
    He was married to Sir James Goldsmith’s daughter, Oxford grad and a international sporting hero.A moderate muslim who would please the masses and perhaps bring some stability to the region as long as the cia and mossad dont interfere.

  4. Gordon you are just Suuuuuperb and absolutely right. You seems to have observed the societies with scientific methods of logic and impartiality. But very sad, no body will listen to you. Europeans, Americans for whom you are speaking they will treat you with scorn. There used to be the days and eras when the leaders used to consult the intelligentsia and would give weight to their thoughts. But now it is all professional lobbyist, media with commercial Agenda and professional Politicians who would do every thing to win the next election.
    The Blood of American, Europeans, Afghans, Pakistanis and so many others nation will keep on flowing for the wrong strategies based on wrong analysis. Alas!!!! We are so helpless!!!!.
    I have myself moved from Uzbekistan to Afghanistan and Tajikistan after being punished for my sincerity, honesty, and efforts. you can look at my detention of 124 Days in Tashkent uzbekistan from 10th December 2009 till 12th April 2010. We are all very week and wrong is very strong. Thank you any way for sharing your knowledge and doing your duty.

    1. Afghanistan, thank you. The steadfast meek will prevail. Never give up on your hopes and ideals for the human soul.

      T.

    1. One may as well pray for Satan himself…that his heart may change.

      My prayer is that more people wake up and come to the truth about all of these evil men…who they really are and what they have done and are continuing to do.

      George Bush and his crew have much to answer for…in this life and the next.

  5. how does the world’s societies, gvt’s, and intel agencies ever get along with out reading the duff papers every morning ? oh the humanity…if they only knew, so much time and money could be saved if only duff would ever get hired by the great news outlets of the planet.
    we must find the way to get them to notice him :-{

    1. I like the idea of you being on Beck’s show. Though you two may have differences of opinions, you’re two kindred spirits.

      Tom Texas Vet

    2. Are you serious? Wow, I could see that! Just don’t mention the truth about 9/11. Seems to me, that the whole purpose of FOXnews is to squelch and obfuscate any questions or facts that vary from the official fairy tale.

      Anyone going there is immediately attacked and ridiculed by O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck et al, who must get their marching orders in no uncertain terms directly from the head zionist, Rupert Murdoch.

      Whenever the subject comes up, they all roll their eyes and get that mocking smirk on their face and equate the guest with Charlie Sheen or Rosie McDonald. And then a quick deflection or change of subject. Happened to Jesse Ventura for example. The traitorous pricks.

    3. I remember O’reilly savaging Jeremy Glick for questioning the official lie about 9/11 like a bullying coward that he is.

  6. The problem with Pakistan is that it always has been in America’s pocket,with it’s corrupt leaders they are easy to buy and always self serving.

    Only a couple of leaders who stood up to America and the zionists ended up dead,Bhutto and Zia.A stable Pakistan would result in a some what stable region,and it seams only the military would provide that.

  7. One of the other concern is that the fundamentalist ideology that become widespread becuase of the soviet invasion and the subsequent influx of jihadis from middle east. It engulfed many poor and backard parts of both countries, it needs to be dealt with and this whole wahabi/salafi madrassa’s need to be closed down. Saudi funding is behind all this in many partd of the world.

    These so called religious parties shelter terrorist groups and initiate sectarian violence wihtin both the countries. Like COAS Kiyani said, if the poor have the better lives, they will not fall into the traps set by these extremists. Economic prosperity is the key to bringing in moderation and progressive development of people and the country alike.

    Pakistan has always been in a good ally of US, it has continously helped US in any of its regional goals and as it is important strategically, US can utilise its powers to make the country prosperous where the government can tackle inequality and extremism.

    Things can work out well if US sticks to its development and peace initiatives in the region. If it abondons Pakistan and sanction it (like it did in the 90’s), things will only get worse.

  8. Dear Khalil, I agree with Gordon Duff,

    We have a saying in Pushto: CHI DA MUKI BALA NA NA KHULASEGAYE HAGHELA BA GHARRA WARKAWAYE. TRANSLATION: When a ghost is after you you can not run but must turn and fight. Similarly Churchill’s saying We either hang together or to be sure, we will hang separately.

    1. Right Zaman;

      This is the only solution, we must live side by side or go down side by side .. Pakistan is coming to the realization we cannot have the same policy that we had for years. Else the consequence is former Yugoslavia.

  9. Gordon,
    Nicely put together, thank you.
    The key to success in Afghanistan and Pakistan is the genuine teaming of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    As my dear friend Raja Mujtaba in Pakistan said, both countries resemble two families residing in two different homes but share the same land.

    Awesome analogy.

    Khalil Nouri

    1. Nouri, Gordon Duff beside being a courageous man who cares for America and Peace with Justice, understands very well military matters and what should be a proper and adequate FOREIGN POLICY that will make America safe and prosperous… and as a BONUS bring peace in the Middle East and Central Asia. So does Jeff Gates, Michael Leon, Dr.Sabrosky and others contributors to this fine forum and participants in the debate.
      President Obama inherited a financial-military messy situation from former president Bush & his court (Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rove-AIPAC). Ain’t an easy task to deal with traitors in Congress and senate, some of them from his OWN party.
      Nevertheless, the American People should be grateful to have people from the region speak up and explain how things really are and how the issue of Afghanistan-Pakistan should be addressed.
      In my humble opinion it is a TREMENDOUS MISTAKE from the US policy makers to have abdicate and let the Zion-Talmudists coach them, manipulate them and DECIDE for them. End result can be seen: Pakistan always has been a true ALLY for the USA, not India or China (with all due respect to said countries). Pakistan has played a role of a stabilizing factor in the region and qualified interlocutor of the Afghans.
      Israel got in between and now both Pakistan and Afghanistan are ablaze…

  10. As I see and know it, the elected ones care only about the CAMPAIGN DONATIONS, which is the status quo. Add to that the friends and family networks worldwide, and the wealthy weird ones, and the affirmative action graduates, and we, the residents of earth are really quite helpless. I’d like to see and experience the big one and be done; my own opinion. Guess it’s time to take my meds. See ya.

  11. Great article Gordon.
    And so congress continues to fund a war they don’t understand,, for a goal that none of them ask about. None of this makes sense,, well,, except to the few profiting from it,, from either the heroin,, or our tax dollars. Here come the chickens.

    1. We all know who the Congressmen/women traitors to this country are; and as well those on the payroll and/or part of the Zion-Talmudic International Mafia are well known too.
      If “We The People” want to be free from being slaves to said International Mafia, we have to stop babbling and act.
      1) Boycott all goods and services that comes from the Rogue State and en a period of ONE MONTH to start with do not buy anything from Jewish stores or service providers (Sorry to the Decent Jews who are no part of the Zion-Talmudic Outfit. I know that many Jews are openly against the Zionist State). This will force ALL JEWS to disengage (without being threatened by the Mafia) from giving their SILENT support to the HEINOUS and ESCALATING CRIMES, we are witnessing and make them take a clear stand, regarding the TURMOIL the Rogue State is causing in this Planet, so the psychopaths that run Israel get a clear message, their atrophied brains can understand,
      2) Organize within neighborhoods into ONG’s and explain to the American People how an International MAFIA has taken over the USA and impoverished the hard working American Citizens, literally stealing their savings through CONGRESS (Grants to the Criminal State of Israel) and Financial FRAUDS through Wall Street’s Mega Companies and crooked rats like the Kosher Don, Bernard Madoff, praying directly through scams on the American People and as well the European Nations,
      3) Explain to the American People how the FEDERAL RESERVE is part of the same International Mafia and why an AMERICAN federal NATIONAL BANK should be CREATED and the INORGANIC MONEY PRINTING Federal Reserve should be CLOSED DOWN and the GOLD (if any left there!) to be confiscated by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Put the issue to a national referendum, together with the question of whether the USA should or not continue working for and supporting the crimes of the Pimp Rogue State of Israel and be associated with it,
      4) Anyone with good ideas about how to fight, within the boundaries of the Law, the Zion-Talmudic MAFIA infiltrated within the US Institution and Agencies, step forward and make your suggestions known.
      Talk is cheap, ORGANIZE and ACT that’s what we have to do if we want our freedom back and our children and grand children to live with dignity in a decent world, not run and controlled by a highly Organized trans-national MAFIA.

  12. Well written Gordie. The only addition I would throw in there is the involvement of Indian, mountain and island states. Thanks to you, Jeff, and even me in a small but invaluable way, I also see this group of nations coming together. It is a small thing here, and a small thing there, like pebbles of sand slowly building a glistening beach of self-recognition and self-support. So many of them are such sweet people, a formerly great civilization torn asunder and now slowly rebuilding itself. We are lucky to be witnesses.

    Tom Texas Vet

  13. Gordon..!!!
    You have done an excellent analysis of past, present and future of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I fully agree with you, ” The Taliban were destined to fail Afghanistan’s women who not only deserve education but also full participation in national life. With so many of Afghanistan’s most talented having fled the Soviet occupation, every human resource is a vital one.” Islam has NOT prohibited women from education.

    Please take care of yourself.

    Sajid

    1. Nasira
      Womens groups have become powerful in Afghanistan and I would work with no political movement that didn’t fully support women’s rights. Prince Ali Seraj has taken a very aggressive stand on this issue. No sane person would get in his way.
      g

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