Myth-Debunking Snopes Obscures Israel’s Role in 9/11

Snopes.com, officially known as the Urban Legends Reference Pages, has since its humble inception in 1995 come to be regarded as one of the most trusted debunkers of conspiracy theories on the internet.

Described by one of its many fans – it apparently has over 6 million visitors per month – as “the grand-daddy of all fact-checking sites,” Snopes is downright cavalier, however, in its attitude to facts surrounding Israel’s role in the 9/11 attacks.

In its large section on urban legends relating to 9/11, Snopes purports to debunk a claim that “four thousand Israelis employed by companies housed in the World Trade Center stayed home from work on September 11, warned in advance of the impending attack on the World Trade Center.” A click on the link under “Israelis” brings the curious reader to an entry titled “Absent without Leave,” in which the “four thousand Israelis” have suddenly and inexplicably been replaced by “four thousand Jews.”

In “Absent without Leave,” Snopes reproduces a September 17, 2001 report by Lebanon’s al-Manar satellite television station, which claimed that the Israelis (not “Jews”) “remained absent that day based on hints from the Israeli General Security apparatus, the Shabak.” The Al-Manar piece cited also refers to the five Israelis arrested hours after the attacks, after having been witnessed filming and celebrating as the Twin Towers collapsed.

Below the al-Manar article, Snopes has appended a shoddily written, anonymous, unsourced internet piece, in which the 4,000 Israelis have again been mysteriously transformed into 4,000 Jews. In contrast to the al-Manar report, this diatribe includes such absurd and provocative anti-Semitic statements as “the Jews knew and were prewarned” about 9/11.

Snopes makes no distinction between the two pieces, however, lumping them together as examples of what it calls the “plenty of anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist, and anti-Israeli groups eager to use the horrors of September 11 as fodder for propaganda to serve their own political ends.” Considering its tendentious conflation of legitimate criticism of Israel – and the exclusivist ideology on which it is based – with an irrational hatred of Jews, one doubts whether Snopes would level the same accusation against Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.

How could they not have known?

Asked on the night of September 11 what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Netanyahu replied, “It’s very good.” Then he quickly edited himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” Later that night in an appearance on Israeli TV, the then Israeli prime minister Sharon indicated how Tel Aviv intended to exploit that “sympathy,” when he “repeatedly placed Israel on the same ground as the United States, calling the assault an attack on ‘our common values’ and declaring, ‘I believe together we can defeat these forces of evil.’”

Dancing Israelis

Three of the Dancing Israelis

Instead of attempting to debunk the well-documented claims that at least some Israelis were forewarned about the 9/11 attacks, Snopes peremptorily dismisses them, claiming they “scarcely merit the dignity of a rebuttal.” Yet, Haaretz reported that two employees of Odigo, the Israeli-owned instant messaging service, “received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen.”

Asked whether Israeli agents had advanced knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, Fox News reporter Carl Cameron quoted U.S. investigators who concluded, “How could they not have known?” And then there were those “dancing Israelis” who later claimed on an Israeli talk show that their “purpose was to document the event.”

Disregarding evidence of Israeli foreknowledge, Snopes asserts that “no miracles, human intervention, foreknowledge, coincidence, or vagaries of fate saved more than a few World Trade Center workers from meeting their deaths that day.”

Lucky Larry Silverstein

One of the lucky few (not mentioned by Snopes) was Larry Silverstein, who signed a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center six weeks before 9/11, insuring it for $3.5 billion.
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Silverstein’s wife’s insistence that he couldn’t cancel an appointment with his dermatologist that morning ensured that he missed his daily breakfast meeting with tenants at the Windows on the World restaurant on the top floors of the North Tower of the World Trade Center.

His son and daughter, who worked with him in the Twin Towers, were also fortunate to be “running late” on September 11.

Silverstein’s good fortune no doubt delighted his close friends in Israel. Soon after the attacks, the property developer received phone calls from no less than three Israeli prime ministers – Ehud Barak, Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon – inquiring how he was. 

Seemingly puzzled by suspicions that Israelis had advance warning of the World Trade Center attack, Snopes asks rhetorically: “Why would Israel follow such a course of action, betray its staunchest ally, and doom thousands of innocent Americans to death?”

One could also ask why Israeli agents planted firebombs in American installations in Egypt in 1954? Or why Israel murdered 34 U.S. servicemen in a deliberate attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967? Or why Mossad decided not to warn the United States about the October 23, 1983 attack on its Marine barracks in Beirut which killed 241 troops? Or why Mossad’s Operation Trojan led Washington to believe that Libya was responsible for the April 5, 1986 Berlin disco bombing which killed two American soldiers?

To date, Snopes has yet to investigate any of these acts of betrayal by Israel of “its staunchest ally.”

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19 Responses to "Myth-Debunking Snopes Obscures Israel’s Role in 9/11"

  1. Ken A  August 17, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    A type of deductive reasoning applies in the case of the WTC events, as always.

    For example,

    September Clues: Epilogue, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BvmdWAIs14 lists five questions, which people would like answers to. But the reasoning has the “premise” that the feat, maneuvering the various aircraft in the manner claimed, is impossible and ridiculous is a sound premise.

    Thus the “conclusion” is that all five have answers, no matter how difficult to answer. Of course, the difficulty here lies in the fact the perpetrators have too much to lose to not place roadblocks in the way to the answers. Also, by design, this is so. Many sound, indisputable, premises exist, of course. Nonetheless, people will continue to try to obtain the answers to the puzzles, naturally.

    (“Thousands of people could not have been involved” has been answered countless times.)

    PC Roberts has a nice summary of the huge contradictions in the official version. http://vimeo.com/13772932

    Supporters of the “official version” often suggest that the people that do otherwise should seek some help. (Mental, we assume.) But such obsequiousness to a government will surely lead to the need for help, although perhaps not mental, rather with the problems associated with a land sliding into the abyss. When a crime is committed, any government should be the last to hold the investigation, always being a prime suspect.

  2. Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez  July 26, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    This article is extremely well-written and full of quality factual information. Excellent work VeteransToday, I commend you for keeping up this bold and honest journalism!

    All the best,

    -Abe

    ‘9/11 & Free Energy’: 9/11 & Free Energy: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=393090521816

  3. MK  July 25, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    It bothers me that a site like Snopes becomes deified by people unwilling to do a little more research. I don’t remember when I found the errors on Snopes, but it was several years ago. I checked the site out at the recommendation of somebody. I was searching for some information on a particular topic and discovered OTHER INFORMATION on the snopes site that I knew to be factually incorrect. From that day forward, I did what I have done for years–my own research. Blame this habit on my graduate degree in communications/journalism or blame it on my penchant for getting my facts straight enough to satisfy me, but either way, I would never just accept somebody’s word for things.

    The people who run Snopes, Barbara and David Mikkelson, are not journalists or research librarians. They met on a newsgroup, alt.folklore.urban. Their interest in “debunking” stems from their time on that site. There are other sites that are probably more authoritative depending upon the subject area.

    If you are looking for a general site on facts, try factcheck.com/org. It is run by the Poynter Institute on the Media. The people behind that are journalists. If you are looking for specific facts on a specific subject, try the library and look for journals and books on the discipline that you are researching. The truth is out there for those that search for it.

    MK

  4. AJHenry  July 24, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Coffeecrimson, you assert that the “intelligence agencies were so mentally challenged they couldn’t believe someone would attack the United States”. Are you forgetting or are you unaware of the paper they produced titled “Bin Laden Determined to Attack the U.S.” Condi Rice provided that when she was questioned.

    Please read the All the Proof in the World document and provide specific problems with the multitude of facts. For example, explain what 5 Israeli spies were doing filming and celebrating the 9/11 attack. Why did they pose for pictures holding cigarette lighters? That’s in the NYT from 21 Nov 2001, admittedly it should have been page one news on Sept 12 or 13th but ….

  5. andie531  July 24, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Mossad – The Israeli
    Connection To 911
    By Christopher Bollyn
    Exclusive to American Free Press
    4-14-5

    U.S. investigators and the controlled media have ignored a preponderance of evidence pointing to Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad, being involved in the terror attacks of 9/11.

    From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence being involved in the events of 9/11 – and the planting of “false flags” to blame Arab terrorists and mold public opinion to support the pre-planned “war on terror.”

    Shortly after the destruction of the twin towers, radio news reports described five “Middle Eastern men” being arrested in New Jersey after having been seen videotaping and celebrating the explosive “collapses” of the WTC.

    These men, from a phony moving company in Weehawken, N.J., turned out to be agents of Israeli military intelligence, Mossad. Furthermore, their “moving van” tested positive for explosives.

    Dominic Suter, the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems, the phony “moving company,” fled in haste, or was allowed to escape, to Israel before FBI agents could interrogate him. The Israeli agents were later returned to Israel on minor visa violations.

    The Assistant Attorney General in charge of criminal investigations at the time was Michael Chertoff, the current head of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Chertoff, the son of the first hostess of Israel’s national air carrier, El Al, is thought to be an Israeli national.

    One of the Israeli agents later told Israeli radio that they had been sent to “document the event” – the event which took the lives of some 3,000 Americans.

    Despite the fact that the Israelis arrested in New Jersey evidently had prior knowledge or were involved in the planning of 9/11, the U.S. mainstream media has never even broached the question of Israeli complicity in the attacks.

    ISRAELIS FOREWARNED

    On September 12, 2001, the Internet edition of The Jerusalem Post reported, “The Israeli foreign ministry has collected the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack.”

    Yet only one Israeli was killed at the WTC and two were reportedly killed on the “hijacked” aircraft.

    Although a total of three Israeli lives were reportedly lost on 9/11, speechwriters for President George W. Bush grossly inflated the number of Israeli dead to 130 in the president’s address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001.

    The fact that only one Israeli died at the WTC, while 4,000 Israelis were thought to have been at the scene of the attacks on 9/11 naturally led to a widespread rumor, blamed on Arabic sources, that Israelis had been forewarned to stay away that day.

    “Whether this story was the origin of the rumor,” Bret Stephens, the Post’s editor-in-chief wrote in 2003, “I cannot say. What I can say is that there was no mistake in our reporting.”

    ODIGO INSTANT MESSAGES

    Evidence that Israelis had been forewarned several hours before the attacks surfaced at an Israeli instant messaging service, known as Odigo. This story, clear evidence of Israeli prior knowledge, was reported only briefly in the U.S. media – and quickly forgotten.

    At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands of lives.

    Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli nationality.

    Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president, reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message.”

    The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the matter. There have been no media reports since.

    Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s headquarters are located.

    Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology, another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider trading.”

    Through Israeli “venture capital” (VC) investment funds, Mossad spawns and sponsors scores of software companies currently doing business in the United States. These Israel-based companies are sponsored by Mossad funding sources such as Cedar Fund, Stage One Ventures, Veritas Venture Partners, and others.

    As one might expect, the portfolios of these Mossad-linked funding companies contain only Israeli-based companies, such as Odigo.

    Reading through the strikingly similar websites of these Israeli “VC” funds and their portfolio companies, one can’t help but notice that the key “team” players share a common profile and are often former members of “Israel’s Intelligence Corps” and veterans of the R&D Department of the Israel Air Force or another branch of the military. Most are graduates of Israel’s “Technion” school in Haifa, Mossad’s Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) in Herzliya, or a military program for software development.

    The IDC, a private, non-profit university, is closely tied to the Mossad. The IDC has a “research institute” headed by Shabtai Shavit, former head of the Mossad from 1989 to 1996, called the International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism.

    The IDC also has a “Marc Rich Center for the Study of Commodities, Trading and Financial Markets” and a “Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy.” The cosmetics magnate Ronald S. Lauder, who is a supporter of Israel’s Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his far-right Likud Party, founded the Lauder school.

    Lauder, president of the Jewish National Fund and former chairman of New York Governor George Pataki’s Commission on Privatization, is the key individual who pushed the privatization of the WTC and former Stewart AFB, where the flight paths of the two planes that hit the twin towers oddly converged. Ronald Lauder played a significant, albeit unreported, role in the preparation for 9/11.

    Pataki’s wife, Libby, has been on Lauder’s payroll since at least 2002 and reportedly earned $100,000 as a consultant in 2004. According to The Village Voice, between 1994 and 1998, Gov. Pataki earned some $70,000 for speaking to groups affiliated with Lauder.

    THE PTECH CUTOUT

    Ptech, a mysterious software company has been tied with the events of 9/11. The Quincy, Massachusetts-based company was supposedly connected to “the Muslim Brotherhood” and Arab financiers of terrorism.

    The firm’s suspected links with terrorism resulted in a consensual examination by the FBI in December 2002, which was immediately leaked to the media. The media reports of the FBI “raid” on Ptech soon led to the demise of the company.

    Ptech “produced software that derived from PROMIS, had an artificial intelligence core, and was installed on virtually every computer system of the U.S. government and its military agencies on September 11, 2001,” according to Michael Ruppert’s From the Wilderness (FTW) website.

    “This included the White House, Treasury Dept. (Secret Service), Air Force, FAA, CIA, FBI, both houses of Congress, Navy, Dept. of Energy, IRS, Booz Allen Hamilton, IBM, Enron and more,” FTW reported.

    “Whoever plotted 9/11 definitely viewed the FAA as the enemy that morning. Overriding FAA systems would be the most effective way to ensure the attacks were successful,” FTW reported. “To do this, the FAA needed an evolution of PROMIS software installed on their systems and Ptech was just that; the White House and Secret Service had the same software on their systems – likely a superior modified version capable of ‘surveillance and intervention’ systems.”

    But did the U.S. government unwittingly load software capable of “surveillance and intervention” operations and produced by a company linked to terrorism onto its most sensitive computer networks, or was Ptech simply a Mossad “cutout” company?

    Oussama Ziade, a Lebanese Muslim immigrant who came to the U.S. in 1985, founded Ptech in 1994. But the company’s original manager of marketing and information systems was Michael S. Goff, whose PR firm, Goff Communications, currently represents Guardium, a Mossad-linked software company.

    And Goff comes from a well-to-do line of Jewish Masons who have belonged to Worcester’s Commonwealth Lodge 600 of B’nai Brith for decades. So, why would a recently graduated Juris Doctor in Law leave a promising law career to join forces with a Lebanese Muslim’s upstart company sponsored with dodgy funders in Saudi Arabia?

    “As information systems manager [for Ptech], Michael handled design, deployment and management of its Windows and Macintosh, data, and voice networks,” Goff’s website says. “Michael also performed employee training and handled all procurement for software, systems and peripherals.”

    AFP asked Goff, who left the Worcester law firm of Seder & Chandler in 1994, how he wound up working at Ptech. “Through a temp agency,” Goff said. Asked for the name of the agency, Goff said he could not remember.

    Could it be Mossad Temps, or maybe Sayan Placement Agency?

    Goff, the original marketing manager for Ptech software, said he did not know who had written the code that Ptech sold to many government agencies. Is this believable?

    Goff leaves a legal practice in his home town to take a job, through a temp agency, with a Lebanese Muslim immigrant who is selling software, and he doesn’t know who even wrote the code?

    AFP contacted the government agencies that reportedly have Ptech software on their computers, and IBM, to ask if they could identify who had written the source code of the Ptech software.

    By press time, only Lt. Commander Ron Steiner of the U.S. Navy’s Naval Network Warfare Command had responded. Steiner said he had checked with an analyst and been told that none of the Ptech software has been approved for the Navy’s enterprise networks.

    Finis

  6. Musashi  July 23, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    I know Steve…are these people mixing their medications or not taking them at all?

    Or…maybe these people ARE the inside job we should be monitoring. Why are they this way? Are they part of a REAL conspiracy to destroy our country?

    Oh poor Muslims…they are so misunderstood…why does it have to be this way…why can’t we saw off anybody’s head with a dull rusty knife that we want…why won’t the infidels let us take over the world.

  7. Coffeecrimson  July 23, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Thank you. This crap has become ridiculous. Americans were not the only people working in the world trade center. It’s New York, people. The financial center of the U.S. Everybody had a company there. I don’t believe that crap at all. Two planes hit the towers. The intelligence agencies were so mentally challenged they couldn’t believe someone would attack the United States. They had the information and were too stupid and pig headed to share the information with one another. Let’s stop with the Jewish conspiracies. It’s getting old. It’s kind of like Elvis still being alive and in hiding. Some things just are – no rhyme, no reason. They just are.

  8. JHenry  July 23, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Thanks for the laughs Steve.

  9. Stephen Todd  July 23, 2010 at 11:23 am

    OMG I have said this before about these articles – People – Get some help for God’s sake – even chicken little eventually knew the sky was not falling!

    You have a phychological disorder – get some help. Just the notion that what would have to be hundreds of people plotting and carrying out this elaborate “attack” and no one “slipping” with their knowledge – lets see three people carried out a little breakin at Watergate and four others knew about it – hmmmm – how quiet was that?

    So lets see, within 9 months of assuming the Presidency – Bush and Cheney decided to stage an attack – they recruited operatives – they colluded with Isreal (you know just your belief in that part alone reveals the typical Nazi like anti-semantic hatred that runs deeply through your misguided hearts) – they covertly placed explosives throughout the Trade Center – and on and on! And of course you know that Bush and Chaney are capable of this evil because they are not like you – which automatically makes anyone evil – yup your story really is so convincining! Oh and of course now it is Obama who is carrying out the continuing deception – because he is such a patriot and loves Isreal so much.

    I have read and watched every “911 Inside Job” type article or video etc. Honestly get some help people!!!

  10. Jorn Barger  July 23, 2010 at 4:57 am

    I remember, way back when, Snopes had a prominent link to an article at Slate (I think) that claimed to debunk the 4000 Israelis story by citing the 130 number Bush had mentioned. I sent him my FAQ ( http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.pakistan/msg/0cd288e237f59299 ) and he removed the Slate link, but refused to link the FAQ.

  11. vinnie  July 23, 2010 at 1:21 am

    What ever happened to the 3 dancing Israel’s. they know what happened? 9/11 was a set up deal by the zionest government of Israel and the republican administration. much (mo-la) money involved by both countries. there is said that over 25 Billion Dollars is missing from the fed. maybe more.corruption at its best. Washington sure smeals.all kinds of RATS.

  12. rick dimbath  July 23, 2010 at 1:07 am

    As long as Israeli & N.W.O. Groupies Run the American Government
    then we all know how much time we have left and
    that is not much.
    Soon , it may have started in April, America is going
    to get FALSE FLAG ATTACKED TO DEATH.
    FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A.I.P.A.C. LOOKING OUT FOR US.

  13. Michael Russell  July 23, 2010 at 12:56 am

    The problem is not the Israeli involvement in 9/11, or not, it is that US Officials knew, and murdered our own civilians. Anyone could be fooled by such an elaborate plot, but the American people are still attacking innocents abroad. Regardless of who was originally responsible, there has obviously been a coverup of WTC7 by both US Administrations. We have traitors still in this country to deal with, then we can go after the rest of the world.

  14. Robbie the Pict  July 22, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    This may have been covered elsewhere, but at the risk of repeating a fundamental point, does New York City not have building regulations which would prohibit the construction of any building which might suffer ‘progressive collapse’ or whatever the phenomenon might be called in America?
    If ‘progressive collapse’ is ruled out by prohibition, then it was a controlled demolition using explosives. The political fall-out from that is urgent business for America but what you accept, you will get more of.

  15. Dan  July 22, 2010 at 10:17 am

    Just the cover-up of the controlled demolition of WTC7 is all the evidence any reasonable person needs to know 9/11 was an inside job, since it is physically impossible a few fires in the lobby area to have brought it down, and equally obvious no NYC or other response units could have set the complex charges during the pandemonium. The trail always leads back to Israeli controlled businesses in the U.S. for producing the ultra-high-tech explosives required to bring that 47-story tower down, provide security cover, provide moving vans to move materials, and gain unlimited access to the blueprints and construction specifications of the buildings.

    Considering the recent series in the Washington Post about our monstrous intelligence apparatus, where 845,000 people have “top secret” clearance and $75 billion is being spent to ferret out Islamic terrorist threats, it would appear the real target of this new bureaucratic monstrosity is dissent at home. Obviously there is no interest in the truth. The DHS is reportedly funding development of absolutely horrific crowd-control weapons, and in this case, the targets are clearly American citizens and not foreign terrorists. Joe Lieberman has introduced his cyberspace law giving the White House the power to shut down the Internet. This scenario is right out of a horror novel about the impossible, the imposition of a police state in the United States unrivaled in its tyranny due to the advent of weapons of surveillance and control supposedly being developed to protect us when, in fact, they’re being developed to enslave us.

  16. israel did 9/11  July 22, 2010 at 7:41 am

    israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world and get your facts mr.

    iamthewitness.com

  17. AJHenry  July 22, 2010 at 6:33 am

    Snopes has exposed itself (again?) as just another layer of media deception.

    Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus – “False in one thing, false in everything.”

    Cui bono – “Good for whom?” — a maxim which suggests that considering who will benefit is likely to reveal who is responsible for an unwelcome happening.

    A few old-time legal expressions which apply to Israel and pretty much only Israel and therefore make them the prime suspect.

    As for the oft repeated notion that Israel is our ally, since it’s only contradicted by the facts, perhaps the repetition is merely propaganda.

    All the Proof in the World (http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367) has all the details an outfit like Snopes would flee from.

    Former Zionist Benjamin Freedman said it best in 1961, “the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs.” (http://iamthewitness.com/archive.php?dir=audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/).

  18. andie531  July 22, 2010 at 2:48 am

    Snopes was “debunking” Israeli involvement as early as Sept 2001 – see third post under these Sept 2001 Usenet postings (now known as Google Groups) here: https://groups.google.com/group/alt.terrorism.world-trade-center/browse_thread/thread/93dc347da1a39073/a22017a9bf05c406?hl=en&q=#a22017a9bf05c406

    The Dancing Israelis are still active in the US:
    http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2009/10/suters-back-in-town-9-11-dancing.html

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