The CIA: Beyond Redemption and Should be Terminated


By Sherwood Ross

The Central Intelligence Agency(CIA) has confirmed the worst fears of its creator President Harry Truman that it might degenerate into “an American Gestapo.” It has  been just that for so long it is beyond redemption. It represents 60 years of failure and fascism utterly at odds with the spirit of a democracy and needs to be closed, permanently.

Over the years “the Agency” as it is known, has given U.S. presidents so much wrong information on so many critical issues, broken so many laws, subverted so many elections, overthrown so many governments, funded so many dictators, and killed and tortured so many innocent human beings that the pages of its official history could be written in blood, not ink. People the world over regard it as infamous, and that evaluation, sadly for the reputation of America, is largely accurate.  Besides, since President Obama has half a dozen other major intelligence agencies to rely on for guidance, why does he need the CIA? In one swoop he could lop an estimated 27,000 employees off the Federal payroll, save taxpayers umpteen billions, and wipe the CIA stain from the American flag.

If you think this is a “radical” idea, think again. What is “radical” is to empower a mob of covert operatives to roam the planet, wreaking havoc as they go with not a care for morality or, for that matter, the tenets of mercy implicit in any of the great faiths. The idea of not prosecuting CIA interrogators (i.e., torturers), as President Obama has said, is chilling. These crimes have to be stopped somewhere, sometime, or they will occur again.

“The CIA had run secret interrogation centers before—beginning in 1950, in Germany, Japan, and Panama,” writes New York Times reporter Tim Weiner in his book “Legacy of Ashes, The History of The CIA”(Random House). Weiner has won a Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the intelligence community. “It had participated in the torture of captured enemy combatants before—beginning in 1967, under the Phoenix program in Vietnam. It had kidnapped suspected terrorists and assassins before…”

In Iran in 1953, for example, a CIA-directed coup restored the Shah (king) to absolute power, initiating what journalist William Blum in “Rogue State” (Common Courage Press) called “a period of 25 years of repression and torture; while the oil industry was restored to foreign ownership, with the US and Britain each getting 40 percent.”  About the same time in Guatemala, Blum adds, a CIA-organized coup “overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of military government death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions, and unimaginable cruelty, totaling more than 200,000 victims—indisputably one of the most inhuman chapters of the 20th century.” The massive slaughter compares, at least in terms of sheer numbers, with Hitler’s massacre of Romanian and Ukranian Jews during the holocaust. Yet few Americans know of it.

Blum provides yet other examples of CIA criminality. In Indonesia, it attempted in 1957-58 to overthrow neutralist president Sukarno. It plotted Sukarno’s assassination, tried to blackmail him with a phony sex film, and joined forces with dissident military officers to wage a full-scale war against the government, including bombing runs by American pilots, Blum reported This particular attempt, like one in Costa Rica about the same time, failed. So did the CIA attempt in Iraq in 1960 to assassinate President Abdul Kassem. Other ventures proved more “successful”.

In Laos, the CIA was involved in coup attempts in 1958, 1959, and 1960, creating a clandestine army of 30,000 to overthrow the government. In Ecuador, the CIA ousted President Jose Velasco for recognizing the new Cuban government of Fidel Castro. The CIA also arranged the murder of elected Congo Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba in 1961 and installation of Mobutu Seko who ruled “with a level of corruption and cruelty that shocked even his CIA handlers,” Blum recalls.

In Ghana, in 1966, the CIA sponsored a military coup against leader Kwame Nkrumah in 1966; in Chile, it financed the overthrow of elected President Salvador Allende in 1973 and brought to power the murderous regime of General Augusto Pinochet who executed 3,000 political opponents and tortured thousands more.  In Greece in 1967, the CIA helped subvert the elections and backed a military coup that killed 8,000 Greeks in its first month of operation. “Torture, inflicted in the most gruesome of ways, often with equipment supplied by the United States, became routine,” Blum writes.

In South Africa, the CIA gave the apartheid government information that led to the arrest of African National Congress leader Nelson Mandela, who subsequently spent years in prison. In Bolivia, in 1964, the CIA overthrew President Victor Paz; in Australia from 1972-75, the CIA slipped millions of dollars to political opponents of the Labor Party; ditto, Brazil in 1962; in Laos in 1960, the CIA stuffed ballot boxes to help a strongman into power;  in Portugal in the Seventies the candidates it financed triumphed over a pro-labor government; in the Philippines, the CIA backed governments in the 1970-90 period that employed torture and summary execution against its own people; in El Salvador, the CIA in the Nineties backed the wealthy in a civil war in which 75,000 civilians were killed; and the list goes on and on.

Of course, the hatred that the CIA engenders for the American people and American business interests is enormous. Because the Agency operates largely in secret, most Americans are unaware of the crimes it perpetrates in their names. As Chalmers Johnson writes in “Blowback”(Henry Holt), former long-time CIA director Robert Gates, now Obama’s defense secretary, admitted U.S. intelligence services began to aid the mujahideen guerrillas in Afghanistan six months before the Soviet invasion in December, 1979.

As has often been the case, the CIA responded to a criminal order from one of the succession of imperial presidents that have occupied the White House, in this instance one dated July 3, 1979, from President Jimmy Carter. The Agency was ordered to aid the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul—aid that might sucker the Kremlin into invading. “The CIA supported Osama bin Laden, like so many other extreme fundamentalists among the mujahideen in Afghanistan, from at least 1984 on,” Johnson writes, helping bin Laden train many of the 35,000 Arab Afghans.

Thus Carter, like his successors in the George H.W. Bush government — Gates, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, and Colin Powell, “all bear some responsibility for the 1.8 million Afghan casualties, 2.6 million refugees, and 10 million unexploded land mines that followed from their decisions, as well as the ‘collateral damage’ that befell New York City in September 2001 from an organization they helped create during the years of anti-Soviet Afghan resistance,” Johnson added. Worse, the Bush-Cheney regime after 9/11 “set no limits on what the agency could do. It was the foundation for a system of secret prisons where CIA officer and contractors used techniques that included torture,” Weiner has written. By some estimates, the CIA in 2006 held 14,000 souls in 11 secret prisons, a vast crime against humanity.

That the CIA has zero interest in justice and engages in gratuitous cruelty may be seen from the indiscriminate dragnet arrests it has perpetrated: “CIA officers snatched and grabbed more than three thousand people in more than one hundred countries in the year after 9/11,” Weiner writes, adding that only 14 men of all those seized “were high-ranking authority figures within al Qaeda and its affiliates. Along with them, the agency jailed hundreds of nobodies…(who) became ghost prisoners in the war on terror.”

As for providing the White House with accurate intelligence, the record of the CIA has been a fiasco. The Agency was telling President Carter the Shah of Iran was beloved by his people and was firmly entrenched in power in 1979 when any reader of Harper’s magazine, available on newsstands for a buck, could read that his overthrow was imminent—and it was. Over the years, the Agency has been wrong far more often than it has been right.

According to an Associated Press report, when confirmed by the Senate as the new CIA director, Leon Panetta said the Obama administration would not prosecute CIA officers that “participated in harsh interrogations even if they constituted torture as long as they did not go beyond their instructions.” This will allow interrogators to evade prosecution for following the clearly criminal orders they would have been justified to disobey.

“Panetta also said that the Obama administration would continue to transfer foreign detainees to other countries for questioning but only if U.S. officials are confident that the prisoners will not be tortured,” the AP story continued. If past is prologue, how confident can Panetta be the CIA’s fellow goons in Egypt and Morocco will stop torturing prisoners? Why did the CIA kidnap men off the streets of Milan and New York and fly them to those countries in the first place if not for torture? They certainly weren’t treating them to a Mediterranean vacation. By its long and nearly perfect record of reckless disregard for international law, the CIA has deprived itself of the right to exist. 

It will be worse than unfortunate if President Obama continues the inhumane (and illegal) CIA renditions that President Bill Clinton began and President Bush vastly expanded. If the White House thinks its operatives can roam the world and arrest and torture any person it chooses without a court order, without due process, and without answering for their crimes, this signifies Americans believe themselves to be a Master Race better than others and above international law. That’s not much different from the philosophy that motivated Adolph Hitler’s Third Reich. It would be the supreme irony if the American electorate that repudiated racism last November has voted into its highest office a constitutional lawyer who reaffirms his predecessor’s illegal views on this activity. Renditions must be stopped. The CIA must be abolished.

(Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based public relations consultant and columnist who formerly reported for the Chicago Daily News, the New York Herald-Tribune, and wire services. Reach him at [email protected])

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113 Responses to "The CIA: Beyond Redemption and Should be Terminated"

  1. Michael Compton  August 8, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Well said, Lady Croft – Thank you for your contribution/insights.

  2. Lady Croft  July 31, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    The Balfor Declaration was one of many agreements in the Paris 1919 Versailes Conference (Treaty), it did not drag the US into the War. The author is Margaret Macmillan, the great-granddaugter of David Lloyd George who was PM of the UK Empire to the peace conference. I apoligise for the miss spellings…key board issues. It was primarily the sinking of passernger ships and the Russian revolution being the last straw that brought the US into the War in 1917.

  3. Lady Croft  July 31, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    I have spent a lot of time living in Eastern and Central Europe. I am absolutly sure that was no swimming pool at Auscwitzs, I have been there and have spent months of Sundays in libraries reading documents in these countries. Many people died, I generally agree with the 6 million figure for the jewish race but it was probably higher, Lenin-Stalin are resonsible for anywere from 16 to 26 million Russian of many races in the USSR between 1929-1936. Just for your general knowlede te Balfour Agreement came from te adsges of WWI it did not drag te US into the War. Read a book besides your own starting with Marget Lloyd George’s “Paris 1919”. Te only thing it seems we have have learn from history, is that we haven’t learned a thing.
    Michael is correct.

  4. K. Rechtstein  July 31, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Writing to a Congressman-woman won’t help. The majority in Congress-Senate are turncoats and paid hands. What is needed is to reestablish the letter an spirit of the Constitution and cut loose the Rogue State of Israel, making accountable its agents-assests-sayanim for all the crimes they have committed in the USA and abroad dragging us into wars that are unjustified and immoral, all by deception and subvertion of our institutions. Ken

  5. Sam  July 30, 2010 at 3:11 am

    hsing lee says:

    “Truman allowed the CIA to be created, knowing full well in advance that it was being created by the Dulles brothers using ex-Nazi SS officers from Hitler’s inner circles as the main architects of the way the CIA does business.”

    It pays to recruit the best talent. 🙂


  6. Sam  July 30, 2010 at 2:24 am

    Michael Compton said:

    “By denying the Holocaust…(blah, blah, blah…)”

    Yeah, we holocaust ‘deniers’ are also Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy ‘deniers’ as well.

    It’s really tragic so many people who are otherwise logical and open-minded are just the opposite when it comes to this subject. Their minds are closed shut, cemented over; they refuse to do research and investigate for themselves if REALLY the outrageous and fantastic claims by the holocaust propagandists are in fact supported by evidence, the laws of science, and technical capabilities of that time.

    “How many prisoners of war were permitted to die in Soviet and Anglo-American
    camps from hunger and exhaustion? How many German prisoners of war were
    slaughtered AFTER THE END OF THE WAR? It’s a six-digit figure! And what about
    the destruction of Dresden? What about the countless other terror attacks on German, Italian, and Japanese cities? What about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What about the looting, the mass murders of the civilian population? What about the hundreds of thousands of Italian and German women and girls raped by the purveyors and representatives of Allied “democracy”? What about the Yugoslavian Communist stone quarries where thousands of Italians died in misery? Who weeps for them?”

    Approximately ten times as many non-Jews perished in WWII (and that is NOT including the millions starved, murdered and worked to death by the overwhelmingly Jewish communist administration and secret police from 1917-onward) than the SYMBOLIC six-million figure that organized Jewry and their shabbos goyim never, ever, tire of reminding us about!



  7. Oldleatherneck  July 28, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Don’t matter who denighs what the truth is the truth, and it can’t be buried for ever. Just my opinion.

  8. john mccarthy  July 27, 2010 at 3:06 am


    Victors write history unless and until their treacheries and treason finally see the light of day by authenticated documentation that truly stands the test of time, as in theory. It is the power of belief and intestinal fortitude (moral courage) of maintaining that information against the PTB which truly overturns the haste of fabrication coupled with the once unattainable suppression of exculpatory evidence which compels researchers and scholars to admit their misdiagnosis which further erodes the position of governments, dynasty’s and empires. “Give me liberty or give me death” is but one example. The “round earth believers” is but another. Pearl Harbor and 911 truths stoke the fires of belief that governments are inherently evil led by evil men for evil purposes. Those of us who stand against the false prophecies of dictators and fascists are the balance of truth which cannot be refuted. Since we are here for but a short time our positions on truth and against tyranny guide us and give strength and momentum to those who follow.

    In this day and age, the Internet provides truth seekers with the opportunity to blast ideas across and around the planet with insatiable speed and volume, much to the angst of so called “world leaders”.

    The exposure of some 90,000 secret documents baring the truth about the conduct of the war in Afghanistan is yet another tool for truth. Governments and dictatorships have fallen over much less. Now that CIA has admitted falsifying the so called ‘bin Laden tapes’, the primary “justification” for the preemptive attack on Afghanistan lies mute and focuses on what are truly war crimes, Crimes Against Peace and Crimes Against Humanity. The erroneous assertion of the presence of Weapons of Mass Destruction ‘theory’ also crumbles thereby adding the same war crimes to the preemptive attack on Iraq. All of this takes us back to those who are responsible for the Mass Murder carried out on 911 by those evil men running evil governments for evil purposes. That is truly undeniable.


  9. Go11bravo  July 27, 2010 at 1:22 am

    The killing took place in a European civil war I believe we had no reason to get involved in. Ben Bananke’s father fled the Nazis from Austria to make money in the US while my Dad had to go to Europe and get shot twice. That pisses me off. Greenspan could have fought but did not. Kissinger? Albright? Always ready to send good Americans to war without ever serving themselves. Rham Emmanuel decided to serve in Israel. So there is a case to bear a grudge against a certain Jewish elite who seem to love to see others fighting their wars.

    As for African-Americans, most of us would have preferred there was not slavery and they were left in Africa. I know Africa. Take any African-American there and he will thank God he was born in the US. Slavery was wrong. It was bad for those who were slaves but it is a God-send for all Blacks born in American and not in Gabon.

    But are we not all slaves to the big corporations who chew us up and spit us out as they feel fit? At least in feudal times the master had to make sure the serfs were fed, housed and protected.

  10. Pogo  July 27, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Where’s a good (and functional) “kill switch” for this crowd.

    One would hope, that as Americans, somewhere deep in their hearts they must know what they are doing is wrong and evil (on the order of the evils perpetrated by the Nazis).
    Did these people ever have a mother, or some kind of love in their lives?
    One has to be staggered at the complete utter lack of Ethics.
    Obviously, like out of control monster children, they need a good spanking, and someone to take away their toys until they learn to behave as civilized humans.
    But its not just the Criminals In Action, is it?
    Everyone of these “missions” was ordered by higher ups.
    Ike warned us of the military industrial complex. And that “things” would be “justified” (note the misuse of justice) for the “national security.”
    Well, here we are. To all of you who belong to this “organization” (mafia-like outfit) please begin to question yourselves as to who and what you have become.
    Like Vietnam, will we destroy America to save it? What are you really doing with your lives? Please consider the illegality and gross violations of natural law and the law of man you are perpetrating.
    Nazis were hung by piano wire for less.(See Judgment at Nuremberg)
    In the end, there will be Justice.
    Look inside and see the enemy. It is you.

  11. Virg  July 26, 2010 at 10:25 pm

  12. Sherwood Ross  July 26, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Thanks to all of you who have written. I can’t answer all 95 letters but most seem to be in agreement— we have an agency that is spreading like gangrene in scope and lethalness. The information in my article was not original; it was all taken from reporters who have covered the CIA for years from Washington. My question to you readers, especially to you veterans, is what are you going to do about it? I love the letter from the guy who agreed with me and wished ME LOL, lots of luck! This isn’t just my fight. I also liked the letter from the woman who blamed everything on the House of Rothschild. I wrote her back directly asking her for proof. There’s a lot of veiled anti-Semitism out there. It’s one thing to make an argument that Israel has done such and such and prove it. It’s quite another matter to blame the CIA’s actions on the House of Rothschild and the “illuminati,” whatever that is. Again, will you write your Congressperson? Will you write your newspaper editors? Will you hand out leaflets? Will you get VFW groups and AL groups to go on record to shut down this agency? As for the vet who wrote in if we shut them down who will do their work, the FBI? If you ask me, when the goons were torturing prisoners in Guantanamo a couple of FBI agents on the scene walked out and said they would have nothing to do with it. My impression is that there is a sense of decency in that organization. But it’s not my job to come up with solutions. I’m only reporting and tossing in a few of my own comments. It’s up to each and every reader to take positive, legal, action against the existence of the CIA. If you want change, look in your mirror. All best, Sherwood Ross

  13. Truth is a double-edged sword  July 26, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    CIA was the successor to the OSS. Your tin foil hat is too tight.

  14. Go11bravo  July 26, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Like Hitler, the Israelis have made religion a race. No better.

    My father stood guard at a liberated death camp as they made the town’s people walk through and see. Lots of people died in WWII including millions of Gypsies which we speak very little of. How many and how is a question I am open to. But that it did not happen is not the place to start.

    And lets not forget, the winner dictates the terms of justice and usually (re)writes history.

  15. Connie Sotak  July 26, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    You are in for a big surprize, NightFlyer. Just my opinion.

  16. Hugh  July 26, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    “Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities.”

  17. Equalizer  July 26, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    LOL, you got ’em pegged!

  18. Equalizer  July 26, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Rick, thanks for giving me a chuckle!!!

  19. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    AJ is correct

  20. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Let us not include the good guys in C.I.A. /N.S.A. /etc
    with the CREEPS

  21. Michael Compton  July 26, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Well said, NoOneYouKnow – I agree completely.

    The writings on her website are even more harmful (equal parts vile/false/absurd). They make it even more starkly clear that her ‘work’ is exactly as you characterized it – Poison.

  22. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    NightFlyer is CORRECT

  23. Michael Compton  July 26, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    @ Bubba: Was yours a sincere reply? If so, i don’t understand how you could have written much of that in response to what i said.

    “I’m not sure …[et al]… rather than direct malfeasance.”

    Never did i say, nor do i believe, that “examining history automatically impeaches someones credibility”. To suggest that this idea could even be inferred from what i wrote is ridiculous. It is a bizarre and misleading interpretation of my comment. I didn’t say it. I didn’t imply it. Obviously.

    “I believe the lady was making a point that a certain amount of people died of starvation rather than direct malfeasance”

    That may be what you believe, but it is not what SHE believes. Holocaust denier Arlene Johnson has an easily inspected history on the web (including a website [truedemocracy] that will leave reasonable, well-informed people shaking their heads in disbelief).

    She is, put simply, bonkers. Crazy.

    She is a radical christian theocrat (“I wish to create a community that worships and obeys our creator”, she said elsewhere…y’know…NOT the Constitution, but HER “creator”), a holocaust denier, an Illuminati conspiracist, and she supports the work of David Icke (while he is an excellent researcher of basic facts/political connections, he wholeheartedly believes that the world is controlled by reptilian overlords that disguise themselves as humans). If a perspective informed by beliefs such as those is one that you respect and find credible, then we have very different standards and are unlikely to see eye to eye on most issues.

    “Unfortunately for them, they bore the brunt of that bad blood”

    Bad blood? You describe the ‘relationship’ between European Jews circa the 19230’s-40’s and Hitler as one of “bad blood”? I don’t even know what to say. Hitler and the Nazis adopted hideous, murderous policies that wiped huge swaths of the Jewish population (among others), confiscated property of incalculable value, and all but destroyed an entire culture. It was not “bad blood” – the Jews rightly had animosity for the man/regime that was actively attempting total genocide. Maybe it’s just a matter of semantics and you didn’t mean to choose those words – but the way you wrote it implies they both had legitimate problems with one another and Hitler just happened to have the upper hand. That is not the case. That doesn’t really cover it all properly, but it’s all i have time for….The understanding of events you may hold, based on your wording, is so utterly wrong it would be a vast undertaking to counter. Hopefully i’ve just misunderstood you.

    “Two wrongs don’t make a right….previous suffering does not give one the right to inflict similar suffering on others.”

    No it certainly doesn’t, and the way Israel has treated the Palestinians is disgusting to me, and has lowered my opinion of that country. Not because they are Jews however, but because of their policies. Just as the harmful policies of GW Bush that have placed us in such dire financial straits were not the fault of every American, the right wing policies that frequently rule the day in Israel are not the fault of every Israeli. I agree though, that the way Israel has behaved towards the Palestinians has been absolutely abominable, no two ways about it.

  24. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm


    after J.F.K. it has been all ( A.I.P.A.C / (private) Federal Reserve )
    all the time.

    Mass Genocidal Famine has been and as is being
    organized/in motion for U.S.A.
    GULF DISASTER with ongoing efforts to make it as worse as



    F.D.A. / DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE with plenty of other


  25. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Hey, Pre. Obama and his new black panther group will be showing anglo and hispanic americans who the new bosses are, oh, they already have done that, and were pardoned. Anglo Americans and Puerto Rico Americans are alreadt seeing the changes. Pres. Obama and crew are the new black hope you heard about and have no doubt they will be in full control of every administrative position at the state, county, and municipal levels after he is gone. While you’re being distracted many of his crew are being hired and many anglo and Puerto Rico folks are being fired.

  26. Lawrence A Dickerson  July 26, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    “The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος [holókaustos]: hólos, “whole” and kaustós, “burnt”),[2] also known as The Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, Romanized HaShoah; Yiddish: חורבן, Romanized Churben or Urban[3]) was the genocide of approximately six million European Jews during World War II, a programme of systematic state-sponsored extermination by Nazi Germany.[4]

    Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis’ systematic murder of millions of people in other groups, including ethnic Poles, Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, homosexuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and other political and religious opponents.[5] By this definition, the total number of Holocaust victims would be between 11 million and 17 million people.[6]

    The persecution and genocide were carried out in stages. Legislation to remove the Jews from civil society was enacted years before the outbreak of World War II. Concentration camps were established in which inmates were used as slave labor until they died of exhaustion or disease. Where the Third Reich conquered new territory in eastern Europe, specialized units called Einsatzgruppen murdered Jews and political opponents in mass shootings. Jews and Romani were confined in overcrowded ghettos before being transported by freight train to extermination camps where, if they survived the journey, the majority of them were systematically killed in gas chambers. Every arm of Nazi Germany’s bureaucracy was involved in the logistics of the mass murder, turning the country into what one Holocaust scholar has called “a genocidal state”.[7]”

    Ms Johnson,you dishonor the approximately 11 million individuals killed by the Hitler regime under a national cleansing program in order to achieve an Aryan state.

  27. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Israeli scholars just seem to find old written scriptures which is what Hollywood scripts project as truth to the viewing ignorant public. Slowly they will all be exposed for the false ones instead of the choosen ones; their words. They’s take the lollipop out of your babs’s month and ask you why is wasn’t a different flavor. They’ll but your organs on the black market and most everything else to better themselves at the expense of any non jew.

  28. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    I have some limited actual contact with this,
    It could be the real thing ,Look into this and
    decide for yourselves

  29. rick dimbath  July 26, 2010 at 2:28 pm


  30. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    With all your training, education, and experience, you actually beleive your last sentence is the answer? It’s that trbal concept that causes much of the problems on this earth. Just my opinion.

  31. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    With all you training, education, and experience you actually beleive your last sentence is the answer? It’s that trbal concept that causes much of the problems on this earth. Just my opinion.

  32. Lawrence A Dickerson  July 26, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    The government’s response to WikiLeaks announcement of posting many classified documents is typical.They sure demonstrate the truth of this editorial.If you check it out don’t forget the media partners links as well

  33. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Ever hear of the H.A.A.R.P program? Funded originally to research weather conditions.

  34. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    It is worse, they are better equipped elctronically now and they are watching me write now and it’s legal. They are much worse.

  35. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    He also allowed the USS Liberty incident. His wife held major stock holdings in Bell helicopter (the Huey) during Vietnam. Johnson and Israel in bed and Pres. Kenndy dead.

  36. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    If you really the Jessie Jackson as implied, spell it out, AIPAC, they tell the US Administration, the Congress, and the Senate how to vote on all issues to better who they represent. That includes the media, Hollywood, and even the new little group on college campus’now spreading quietly using little hostel type settings to pass the word of the so-called choosen ones. Tell it all, you know what’s going on.

  37. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    If you really the Jessie Jackson as implied, spell it out, AIPAC, they tell the US Administration, the Congress, and the Senate how to vote on all issues to better who they represent. That includes the media, Hollywood, and even the new little group on college campus’now spreading quietly using little hostel type settings to pass the word of the chooden ones. Tell it all, you know what’s going on.

  38. NightFlyer  July 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    I agree. President Harry Truman caused to be killed and wounded millions of life air breathing bodies. Be it people, plants, etc. He than goes on to approved Israel a spot on the eath because he fely sorry for them. He creates the CIA and who knows what else this death spewing lefeform had his habds in.

    History has been kind to this guy only becuase those he helped took over writing the history books, news, etc. President Harry Truman was a mental midget, a murderer, and most folks will never know what harm he has really caused.

    Presidents since have all followed in his footsteps when it comes to taking campaign donations to get elected, then they do as they are told which normally goes on to be the wounding and killing of American troops. Now the American public, the tax payers are actually under house arrest by the words and signature of last three US presidents. America is just another place on a map and it’s owned by non Americans. Oh yes, everything has been done for freedom, god, and country. The worlds laughs at our situation and ignorance. I know I do. Lovenguth

  39. foxtrot  July 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    This makes me want to take more history classes, but I’m sure I’ll get a smart comment about saying that. It’s the truth though, there’s always going to be two sides to everything….I just wish I knew which was the truth. Interesting arguments people, very interesting. Cheers!

  40. Connie Sotak  July 26, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    This spiritual warfare started with the Rothschilds Illuminati, worshippers of Lucifer the fallen angel. So sad that people choose not to believe it. Christ , I believe, is preparing a people such as you to rise up against this evil. Love and peace of Christ rest on you.

  41. Wayne  July 26, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Great CIA is tainted, but what would you replace it with. Would you extend the FBI’s to include information gathering outside of U.S. borders. Should we pretend the Nations that are our freinds today will be our freinds tomorrow, and will continue passing us information.

  42. Wayne  July 26, 2010 at 11:59 am

    I notice Nelson missed the little detail about German documentation supporting the claim of gassing Jews.

  43. militarymomma  July 26, 2010 at 10:19 am

    While the rest of the US govt. has been high jacked by the neo-con agenda (Iraq “war,” Afghanistan), the CIA has been one of the only sources of truth and rational voice. Think Iraq war- when the neocons were screaming WMD’s the Iraq station chief was the biggest voice AGAINST WMD’s. Look what the Bush white house did to Plame after hubs called their WMD bluff.

    When the CIA is at odds with the rest of the gov. that tells me they must be doing something right!

  44. Rev Reggie Jackson  July 26, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Oh and I forgot to mention that the CIA was in on the Kennedy assasination and the Virginia Tech shootings; as they trained that Asian hit man in their Langley, Virginia facility!! And thats why JFK wanted to get rid of them. For they are not for America; but they belong to the antichrist International Bankers/Illuminati !! And their agonies in hell will be extremely escruciating. But not as bad and horrific as those mentioned above who will be with their lord Lucifer in the great lake of fire and brimstone!!

  45. Rev Reggie Jackson  July 26, 2010 at 9:23 am

    The CIA are the International Bankers/Illuminati/Bilderberger/Freemasonry killing machines. They are full of assasins and they train assasins to take out world leaders and to kill and murder Americans also. They are very similar to the Israeli Mossad and the Great Brittians MI6!! But they all belong to these hell bound groups and will be in hell screaming and yelling their heads off in agonies because of all the blood that they have on their hands. And the globalist organizations above have the money and the power to totally control them and pay them for their evil and murderous services!! And their agonies will be extremely harsh in hell. But the globalist mentioned above will be in the worst possible places in the great lake of fire and brimstone imaginable. For they will be responsible for the deaths of about 6 billion people in the future. Not to mention the other billion or so that they have killed in wars and genocides in the last 100 years!!

  46. Richard  July 26, 2010 at 7:47 am

    I’ve got to say, that at this point, I would rejoice if the military took over, declared martial law, and arrested everyone from the President on down, to include every member of the Senate and Congress, and every CIA agent/operative they could lay their hands on. Things are so bad now, even martial law by a loyal military (loyal to the constitution and the American people) would not be any worse.

  47. Richard  July 26, 2010 at 7:43 am

    The shadow government is busy demonizing the Patriot movement with the silly Hutaree, and the murders of Jerry and Joe Kane. There will be more arrests and murders.

  48. Richard  July 26, 2010 at 7:41 am

    Operation “Paperclip”. To adopt Gestapo tactics to be applied to the newly created CIA. Disgraceful.

  49. hsing lee  July 26, 2010 at 3:11 am

    The bottom line is you get what you pay for.

    Truman allowed the CIA to be created, knowing full well in advance that it was being created by the Dulles brothers using ex-Nazi SS officers from Hitler’s inner circles as the main architects of the way the CIA does business.

    And then he worries about it becoming a Gestapo?

    No SH!T sherlock!!!

    The CIA at this point is a wing of the Iran-Contra group within a group in the Republican Party. It has been for decades. It should not exist, and serves no purpose other than to help perpetuate the establishment of White Power in the USA and around the world.

    get rid of it. Make all its files public record and begin war crimes tribunals against all those who committed war crimes and/or crimes against humanity under the CIA umbrella.

    it is the only sane thing to do.


  50. Richard  July 26, 2010 at 1:09 am

    The last guy that tried to re-arrange the CIA was assassinated, so nothing is going to happen to this terrorist organization.

  51. Nelson_2008  July 26, 2010 at 1:00 am

    NoOneWhoKnowsAnything said:

    “Yo, Nelson, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there are still thousands of survivors of the death camps who will and do talk about what they saw not to mention the thousands of accounts and millions of German documents that survive.”


    LOL! Well knucklehead, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it doesn’t matter how many Jews tell the same lie, it’s still a lie.


    NoOneWhoKnowsAnything said:

    “It must take a lot of hate and delusion to say that the Holocaust never happened.”

    I suppose you’re the “living” proof of that, Shitstein. You and your fellow tribesmen are “holocausting” millions of innocent people in broad daylight, in front of the whole world and blaming the victims for it. You Judenfilth invented “hate” and “delusion”, chump.


    NoOneWhoKnowsAnything said:

    “It’s like saying WW1 never happened. Your history is hallucination.”


    Well, look who’s talkin’! A mentally and morally defective pathological liar, i.e., a Jew, is going to undertake to lecture me about “History”. You’d almost be funny if you weren’t so pathetic.

  52. NoOneYouKnow  July 26, 2010 at 12:05 am

    And you’re a christer too. What a surprise. BTW, it’s spelled “kaboodle,” Arlene.

  53. NoOneYouKnow  July 26, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Wachovia bank just got a $100 million fine from the Justice Dept. for laundering more than $375 billion of Mexican cartel drug funds. Somehow, this news wasn’t considered important enough for most of our corporate media:

  54. NoOneYouKnow  July 26, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Arlene, there’s a whole lot of nonsense in your words. Jews who say the Holocaust never happened? And if a few Jews said we’re made of cheese, you’d believe them?
    I’m astonished you and your pal managed to figure out the Jewish population of Europe. You must be terrific scholars, and great with Eastern European languages. What, you’re not? You’re just twisting facts that confirm your previously and desperately held opinion? What a surprise.
    As far as I can see, you’ve based your history-shattering thesis on the testimony of a tour guide, unnamed “Jews,” and your no-doubt deep and clever reading of David Ben-Gurion’s book (in translation). Bravo.
    The worst thing about people like you is that you poison the atmosphere. Mr Ross wrote a great essay, and the best way to throw doubt and dirt on it is for people like yourself and “Nelson” to spew insane hatred in the following thread. If the CIA itself wanted to obliquely discredit Mr Ross’s words, sending you here would be a great way to do it.

  55. NoOneYouKnow  July 25, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Yo, Nelson, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there are still thousands of survivors of the death camps who will and do talk about what they saw, not to mention the thousands of accounts and millions of German documents that survive. It must take a lot of hate and delusion to say that the Holocaust never happened. It’s like saying WW1 never happened. Your history is hallucination. And by the way, learn to capitalize.

  56. Bubba  July 25, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I’m not sure why you think that examining history automatically impeaches someones credibility. I believe the lady was making a point that a certain amount of people died of starvation rather than direct malfeasance. If it matters, millions of German POWs starved to death as well under the care of Allied and Soviet forces, but who’s counting right? But, dead is dead. Many died in that horrible war on both sides. I don’t believe for a second that Hitler had any particular great love for the Jews. I don’t believe for a second that the Jews had any great love for Hitler. Unfortunately for them, they bore the brunt of that bad blood. In the time since that horrible conflagration, the Zionists (Jews and Non Jews alike) have used the memory of the Holocaust as justification for an ethnic cleansing project of their own in the middle East. Two wrongs don’t make a right….previous suffering does not give one the right to inflict similar suffering on others.

  57. MK  July 25, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    He deserves a memorial because he died trying to reveal that the CIA had become a corrupt drug-smuggling entity beholden to no one and controlled only by the appetites of its denizens. It is time to shut down the entire US security/intelligence apparatus not just the CIA. There should not be any SECRET programs anywhere. From what I have seen, most of them are not protecting this country. They are protecting the Shadow Government, the elite who want to run this country into the ground while they steal it blind.

  58. Michael Compton  July 25, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    By denying the Holocaust and asserting your genuine belief in an ‘Illuminati conspiracy’, you’ve absolutely demolished any credibility that might have been yours.

    Post/write as you like of course, but understand that the overwhelming majority of the reading/thinking public recognizes your perspective as the fraudulent silliness that all available facts have long proven it to be. Your assertions regarding the Holocaust are almost certainly based in your personal bigotries, and the ‘Illuminati’ nonsense are evidence of someone that has wrapped an inability to understand complex (largely financial) dynamics in pseudo-intellectual, specious claptrap. Oh there’s a ‘conspiracy’ alright – If one characterizes a group of people belonging to the same economic class working towards similar ends due to their shared financial interests as being a ‘conspiracy’. There’s an ongoing class war – but there’s nothing secret about it.

    Good grief….You held up the presence of a pool at Auschwitz as evidence of your absurd claims….I can’t scarcely believe it. Do you not realize how silly that makes you look?


  59. skeptomaniac  July 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Obama is no change. He is a con artist extrordinairre. He is a corporate shill evidenced by his Health Care bill, bailouts, and now this so called “financial reform” bill. At a time when we should be dismantling the federal reserve, he is empowering it. So when I say we must cast aside this government, it includes that lying snake in the grass Obama too.

  60. David C. Manchester  July 25, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Gary Webb was right. So was Steve Kangas.

    They’re now both dead. Under suspicious circumstances and repeatedly revised and conflicting coroner’s reports.

    There are what I hope are useful sections on both Pulitzer prize winning Webb and Steve Kangas in my chronicle “Personal Account – Earth: Blogging and The Emergence of DotCommunism” at

    My initial comment is still being moderated. In case I said something too plainly and it gets moderated out, here’s a link to a collection I made:
    Here is a collection of documents about warrantless domestic surveillance:


  61. john mccarthy  July 25, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    How about reviewing the once top secret State Department documents, unilaterally declassified, much to the chagrin of the CIA, and posted on the LBJ Library Internet site in Austin, Texas. Most, if not all, of the members of the National Security Council of June, 1966, are deceased but the documents are alive and well and provide direct evidence of Treason In Wartime by members of the NSC who blatantly disregarded presidential directives issued during NSC meetings. These government documents do not lie.

    The above documents were placed on the Internet in 2000.

    The following document was placed on the Internet in 1998 and provides direct evidence of treachery by members of the NSC.

    Further evidence of treachery and misprision of felony is provided by the Internet notification, followed by snail mail follow-ups of the above documents, to Senators Kyl of Arizona and Shelby of Alabama, both Republicans, who were then members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (?), without response. A copy of the above documents was faxed to Karl Rove’s White House fax machine, without response but electronic indications prove the fax was received.

    What are the odds that this instance of treason in wartime is the only one in the history of the US Government?

    The irrevocable conclusion in this matter is that the “CIA Inside The CIA” is alive and well and continues to thwart the Constitution and Presidential Directives issued which have been calculated to form our foreign policy, notwithstanding Plausible Deni-ability.

    When President Johnson became aware of this treachery in March, 1968, he made the following public statement: “I will not seek, nor accept my Parties nomination for reelection as your President.” LBJ had become aware of the treachery of and by his closest advisers.

    John McCarthy
    [email protected]
    Los Angeles, CA

  62. Arlene Johnson  July 25, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Hi Jack,

    I didn’t know about this or I would have published it. Please contact me via my site as when I tried to reach the way to contact you, I received a disconnected link.


    Arlene Johnson

  63. David C. Manchester  July 25, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Should the CIA be Abolished? #cia #torture #immunity #statesecrets #obama

  64. X  July 25, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Kennedy tried to do this, along with printing up silver-backed notes. Which gives insight into who murdered him.

    The CIA is the strong arm of the internationalist bankers, nothing more.

  65. rick dimbath  July 25, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Your leaving on a jet plane , leaving on a jet plane,
    all the scum in Washington D.C. ,
    There is this special place that … the scum have first allegiance to.
    Oh , your never coming back ….

    SENATOR DARTH CHUTZPAH your Brillance & Importance will
    be appreciated somewhere else. There is this Country on the other side of
    the Planet where your Brillance & Importance will be given
    full recognition.
    Take all your pals & drinking buddies with you , soon.

    Those compromising videos of yourselves with other men,CHIDREN
    ( and other mammals ?)

    Your Leaving on a jet plane , leaving on a jet plane,
    all the scum in Washington D.C. ,
    Oh , your never coming back ….

  66. WEREFEAT  July 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Whoa, am I confused. That should have been sent to Philip B Kirschner.

  67. WEREFEAT  July 25, 2010 at 2:25 pm


    If your grandfather told you that he liberated camps and saw gas chambers and gas ovens, he was lying. You should go ask him why he is doing this. He could have been one of the soldiers who built the Hollywood mock-up in Dachau that was shown to the congressmen as being real, and has sworn to keep it secret.

  68. AJ  July 25, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    The United States Isn’t a Country— It’s a Corporation!
    by Lisa Guliani
    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” — Preamble of the original “organic” Constitution “We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.” — Excerpted from the Declaration of Independence of the original thirteen united states of America, July 4, 1776 Fourth of July 2002 has come and gone, and Americans honored the holiday with a renewed patriotic fervor that reminded me of the Bicentennial celebrations of 1976. As is customary, traditional fireworks displays took center stage and scores of people turned out to witness the dazzling show in the summer sky. With mixed feelings, I sat with friends on a crowded Pennsylvania sidewalk beneath a glittering, mesmerizing explosion of color, pondering the keen sense of sadness and betrayal that overwhelmed my spirit. Looking around at the huge crowds gathered for the annual events, I thought silently, “We are not free.” In truth, we have not been a free people for a very long time. We celebrate this day in honor of our “independence”. We call ourselves a free people in a land of liberty. Our anthems proudly sing the praises of this nation, and we raise our voices, wave our flags and join in song — but how many Americans realize they are not free? This is a myth perpetuated by the powers-that-be in order to avoid any major civil unrest, and to keep us all living under the thumb of a militaristic corporate Big Brother within the illusions that have been created for us. The truth of the matter is this: what freedom has not been stolen from us, we have surrendered willingly through our silence and ignorance. As Americans, most of us have no idea how our freedoms are maintained — or lost. Apparently, our ancestors didn’t have a good grasp of this either. It is sad, but it is also very true. Don’t point to that beloved parchment, the Constitution, as a symbol of your enduring freedom. It is representative of a form of government which seemingly no longer exists in this country today. The Constitution has been thrown out the window, the Republic shoved aside and replaced with a democracy. The thing is; most people in this country remain unaware that this is so because they simply do not know the truth — what lies beyond the myths. Your so-called government is not going to tell you, either. To even begin to understand what has happened to the Republic, we must look backward in time to the period following the Civil War. We must go back to the year 1871, which was the beginning of the decline of the Republic. When we examine what happened during that time in our history, we begin to piece together this troubling, perplexing puzzle that is “America” — only then should we answer as to whether we are indeed a “free” people or not. So, let’s roll backward into the past for a moment. It is time we learned what they didn’t teach us in school. It is far more interesting than what they DID tell us. I think you’ll stay awake for this lesson. The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the “Acts of the Forty-First Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: “An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia.” This is also known as the “Act of 1871.” What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land. What??? How could they do that? Moreover, WHY would they do that? To explain, let’s look at the circumstances of those days. The Act of 1871 was passed at a vulnerable time in America. Our nation was essentially bankrupt — weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War. The Civil War itself was nothing more than a calculated “front” for some pretty fancy footwork by corporate backroom players. It was a strategic maneuver by European interests (the international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the neck (and the coffers) of America. The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone’s pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed. In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, moved right in and shoved the original “organic” version of the Constitution into a dusty corner. With the “Act of 1871,” our Constitution was defaced in the sense that the title was block-capitalized and the word “for” was changed to the word “of” in the title. The original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers, was written in this manner: “The Constitution for the united states of America”. The altered version reads: “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”. It is the corporate constitution. It is NOT the same document you might think it is. The corporate constitution operates in an economic capacity and has been used to fool the People into thinking it is the same parchment that governs the Republic. It absolutely is not. Capitalization — an insignificant change? Not when one is referring to the context of a legal document, it isn’t. Such minor alterations have had major impacts on each subsequent generation born in this country. What the Congress did with the passage of the Act of 1871 was create an entirely new document, a constitution for the government of the District of Columbia. The kind of government THEY created was a corporation. The new, altered Constitution serves as the constitution of the corporation, and not that of America. Think about that for a moment. Incidentally, this corporate constitution does not benefit the Republic. It serves only to benefit the corporation. It does nothing good for you or me — and it operates outside of the original Constitution. Instead of absolute rights guaranteed under the “organic” Constitution, we now have “relative” rights or privileges. One example of this is the Sovereign’s right to travel, which has been transformed under corporate government policy into a “privilege” which we must be licensed to engage in. This operates outside of the original Constitution. So, Congress committed TREASON against the People, who were considered Sovereign under the Declaration of Independence and the organic Constitution. When we consider the word “Sovereign,” we must think about what the word means. According to Webster’s Dictionary, “sovereign” is defined as: 1. chief or highest; supreme. 2. Supreme in power, superior in position to all others. 3. Independent of, and unlimited by, any other, possessing or entitled to, original and independent authority or jurisdiction. In other words, our government was created by and for “sovereigns” — the free citizens who were deemed the highest authority. Only the People can be sovereign — remember that. Government cannot be sovereign. We can also look to the Declaration of Independence, where we read: “government is subject to the consent of the governed” — that’s supposed to be us, the sovereigns. Do you feel like a sovereign nowadays? I don’t. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a constitutional historian to figure out that this is not what is happening in our country today. Government in these times is NOT subject to the consent of the governed. Rather, the governed are subject to the whim and greed of the corporation, which has stretched its tentacles beyond the ten-mile-square parcel of land known as the District of Columbia — encroaching into every state of the Republic. Mind you, the corporation has NO jurisdiction outside of the District of Columbia. THEY just want you to think it does. You see, you are presumed to know the law. This is ironic because as a people, we are taught basically nothing about the law in school. We are made to memorize obscure factoids and paragraphs here and there, such as the Preamble, and they gloss over the Bill of Rights. But we are not told about the law. Nor do our corporate government schools delve into the Constitution in any great depth. After all, they were put into place to indoctrinate and dumb down the masses — not to teach us anything. We were not told that we were sold-out to foreign interests and made beneficiaries of the debt incurred by Congress to the international bankers. For generations, American citizens have had the bulk of their earnings confiscated to pay on a massive debt that they, as a People, did not incur. There are many, many things the People have not been told. How do you feel about being made a beneficiary of somebody else’s massive debt without your knowledge or consent? Are we gonna keep going along with this?? When you hear some individuals say that the Constitution is null and void, think about how our government has transformed over time from a municipal or service-oriented entity to a corporate or profit-oriented entity. We are living under the myth that this is lawful, but it is not. We are being ruled by a “de facto,” or unlawful, form of government — the corporate body of the death-mongers — The Controllers. With the passage of the Act of 1871, a series of subtle and overt deceptions were set in motion — all in conjunction and collusion with the Congress, who knowingly and deliberately sold the People down the river. Did they tell you this in government school? I doubt it. They were too busy drumming the fictional version of history into your brain — and mine. By failing to disclose what THEY did to the American People, the people became ignorant of what was happening. Over time, the Republic took it on the chin to the point of a knockdown. With the surrender of their gold in 1933, the People essentially surrendered their law. I don’t suppose you were taught THAT in school either. That’s because our REAL history is hidden from us. This is the way Roman Civil Law works — and our form of governance today is based upon Roman Civil Law and Admiralty/Maritime Law — better known as the “Divine Right of Kings” and “Law of the Seas”, respectively. This explains a lot. Roman Civil Law was fully established in the original colonies even before our nation began and is also known as private international law. The government which was created for the District of Columbia via the Act of 1871 operates under Private International Law, and not Common Law, which was the law of the Constitutional Republic. This is very important to note since it impacts all Americans in concrete ways. You must recognize that private international law is only applicable within the District of Columbia and NOT in the other states of the Union. The various arms of the corporation are known as “departments” such as the Judiciary, Justice and Treasury. You recognize those names? Yes, you do! But they are not what you assume them to be. These “departments” all belong to the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. They do NOT belong to you and me under the corporate constitution and its various amendments that operate outside of the Constitutional Republic. I refer you to the UNITED STATES CODE (note the capitalization, indicating the corporation, not the Republic) Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) (C). It is stated unequivocally that the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Realize, too, that the corporation is not a separate and distinct entity from the government. It IS the government. YOUR government. This is extremely important. I refer to this as the “corporate empire of the UNITED STATES,” which operates under Roman Civil Law outside of the Constitution. How do you like being ruled by a cheesy, sleazy corporation? You’ll ask your Congressperson about this, you say? HA!! Congress is fully aware of this deception. You must be made aware that the members of Congress do NOT work for you and me. Rather, they work for the Corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Is this really any surprise to you? This is why we can’t get them to do anything on our behalf or to answer to us — as in the case with the illegal income tax — among many other things. Contrary to popular belief, they are NOT our civil servants. They do NOT work for us. They are the servants of the corporate government and carry out its bidding. Period. The great number of committees and sub-committees that the Congress has created all work together like a multi-headed monster to oversee the various corporate “departments.” And, you should know that every single one of these that operates outside the District of Columbia is in violation of the law. The corporate government of the UNITED STATES has no jurisdiction or authority in ANY state of the Republic beyond the District of Columbia. Let this sink into your brain for a minute. Ask yourself, “Could this deception REALLY have occurred without the full knowledge and complicity of the Congress?” Do you think it happened by accident? You are deceiving yourself if you do. There are no accidents or coincidences. It is time to confront the truth and awaken from ignorance. Your legislators will not apprise you of this information. You are presumed to know the law. THEY know you don’t know the law, or your history for that matter, because this information has not been taught to you. No concerted effort has been made to inform you. As a Sovereign, you are entitled to full disclosure of the facts. As a slave, you are entitled to nothing other than what the corporation decides to “give” you — at a price. Be wary of accepting so-called “benefits” of the corporation of the UNITED STATES. Aren’t you enslaved enough already? I said (above) that you are presumed to know the law. Still, it matters not if you don’t in the eyes of the corporation. Ignorance of the law is not considered an excuse. It is your responsibility and your obligation as an American to learn about the law and how it applies to you. THEY count on the fact that most people are too uninterested or distracted or lazy to do so. The People have been mentally conditioned to allow the alleged government to do their thinking for them. We need to turn that around if we are to save our Republic before it is too late. The UNITED STATES government is basically a corporate instrument of the international bankers. This means YOU are owned by the corporation from birth to death. The corporate UNITED STATES also holds ownership of all your assets, your property, and even your children. Does this sound untrue? Think long and hard about all those bills you pay, all those various taxes and fines and licenses you must pay for. Yes, they’ve got you by the pockets. Actually, they’ve had you by the ass for as long as you’ve been alive. In your heart, you know it’s true. Don’t believe any of this? Read up on the 14th Amendment. Check out how “free” you really are. With the Act of 1871 and subsequent legislation such as the purportedly ratified 14th Amendment, our once-great nation of Sovereigns has been subverted from a Republic to a democracy. As is the case under Roman Civil Law, our ignorance of the facts has led to our silence. Our silence has been construed as our consent to become beneficiaries of a debt we did not incur. The Sovereign People have been deceived for hundreds of years into thinking they remain free and independent, when in actuality we continue to be slaves and servants of the corporation. Treason was committed against the People in 1871 by the Congress. This could have been corrected through the decades by some honest men (assuming there were some), but it was not, mainly due to lust for money and power. Nothing new there. Are we to forgive and justify this crime against the People? You have lost more freedom than you may realize due to corporate infiltration of the so-called government. We will lose more unless we turn away from a democracy that is the direct road to disaster — and restore our Constitutional Republic. Join us in taking back our country.

  69. Arlene Johnson  July 25, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Thank you Thank you Thank you. I knew this information about Lockerby, but have not seen it in print until reading it here from you. At least I have not seen it in print for a long time.

    The CIA took advantage of their knowledge that Iran retaliates when it has been betrayed if it is not given an apology. See Lockerby happened because the U.S. Navy blew up an Iranian Airbus on July 3, 1987 over the Persian Gulf which had 290 passengers going on vacation to Kuwait, because Reagan wanted to end the Iraq/Iran War. All it did was cause Iran to retaliate causing more loss of life. The CIA does know culture extremely well if only because agents live in every country around the world.

    You can read what I have on this atrocity at if you want. I have documentation, even though this is a true story, from Pierre Salinger as he wrote an article which The Georgetowner published in 2001.

    In terms of the CIA, it remains because it carries out the agenda of the Illuminati.

    Please contact me via my site if you can.


    Arlene Johnson

  70. Arlene Johnson  July 25, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    When I published my third edition, I became aware that if the CIA were to be abolished that the DIA would assume the tasks that the CIA undertook. Now, the DIA is another Shadow government agency just as the CIA is, so the whole kit and kabudle of them have to go. But I think that only God will be able to cause that because too few people read my editions. So I pray everyday that our Lord Jesus Christ returns becuase when that happens, then we will be freed of these infernal agencies that violate our God given rights.


    Arlene Johnson

  71. Arlene Johnson  July 25, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Izzy is not lying. Just because your grandfather liberated the camps doesn’t mean that 6 million Jews were gassed to death in them. Auschwitz had a swimming pool, theatre, and the sign over the entrance said “Work makes you free” in German. There weren’t even 6 million Jews in Europe at the beginning of WWII, so how could there have been so many survivors? Two of us figured that out. I did it by reading David Ben-Gurion’s book entitled A Personal History in which he contradicted himself which caused me to begin to write down sentences that he wrote in that book.

    And don’t tell me that 6 million were gassed to death because of all the photos that the Allies took when the war was over, because those people starved to death because German lines couldn’t get food to the camps because of all the Allied bombing.

    I took the tour of Dachau. The tour guide told the group of us that when the people from Auschwitz were going to be evacuated to Dachau and Bergen Belsen that the comandant of Dachau asked Berlin for more food. Berlin said, “Make do with what you have; there is no more food!”

    If you want to take this up with me by Email, log onto my site and contact me. There are Jews who have stated publically that no 6 million Jews were gassed during WWII. I have their names.

    In terms of the CIA, we had a president who tried to disband it. He lost his life for it. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. I found out so have been trying to inform the world of this fact as when they killed him, they betrayed every decent human being around the world. The CIA adheres to what the president wants as long as the president obeys the Illuminati. If the president doesn’t obey the Illuminati, then the CIA works directly for the Illuminati. MI5 in Britain works essentially the same way.

    Kind regards,

    Arlene Johnson

  72. Nigel  July 25, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Yes, the Banks have been laundering drug money for a long time. In Fact Wall Street couldnt survive without it. Check out this Bllomberg article

    There is a also a great book, called “compromised”. Clinton, Bush and the CIA. “How the Presidency was Co-opted by the CIA. By Tryy Reid and Terry Cummings

  73. Nelson_2008  July 25, 2010 at 10:55 am

    I’ll tell that to anybody, including your lying relatives, Shitstein.

    Jews pushed for U.S. entry into WW1 and Jews pushed for WW2. Once they got WW2 started, Jews pushed to destroy Germany. Jews pushed for allied bombardment of the work camps.

    WW2 was a Jew war, for nefarious Jew purposes.

    The Iraq war was a Jew war for which Jews made up stories about Saddam Hussein’s “Weapoons of Mass Destruction”. The upcoming Iran war is a Jew war for which Jews are lying about Iran’s fictional “nuclear weapons program”. It’s just a case of the same liars telling the same lies.

    Jews are pathological liars.

  74. Hillbilly  July 25, 2010 at 10:19 am

    OSS took great pains to ‘rescue’ Nazis out of post war Europe.

  75. Hillbilly  July 25, 2010 at 9:33 am

    While not a fan of Obama..I cringe to think who McFailureand mcquiter would have had arrested and tortured..not to mention that she is an idiot and crazy to boot.

  76. Hillbilly  July 25, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Tell that to my relatives that were gassed ..a few survied Buchenwald and Auschwitz, so stop the the lies and denials. I lost a good people in my family and I also know a lot of surivors also that were slaves in the bush family evil empires Silesia mining and steel works next to Auschwitz . What kind of drugs allow you to deny the murder of so many people? ..oh thats right you are probably one of those fools that thinks enslaving Africans in the cotton fiels was liberation.

    Delusion much?

  77. TessaC  July 25, 2010 at 3:17 am

    This article is such a relief to me. I have been waiting for the military, active or retired, to come out and openly discuss the cointelpro operations being carried out all over the planet by these ‘out-of-control’ elite operatives. I think the worse thing that could have happened to our military was the National Security Act, in 1947. The ‘secret agencies’ literally stole away our government and rendered all of us helpless to control what was being manipulated by the intelligence community. This is so awful, I fear part of the New world Order plan is to ruin-disolve-destroy our military entirely. I worry for the boys in Iraq and Afghanistan being ‘expendable’. I am completely outraged by private contractors, paid without our consent. Let’s call it for what it is, “we’ve been hijacked.”

    If you all want this to change, so many many people all over the world will stand with you, especially the growing numbers of conscious americans in the Patriot Movement.

  78. Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall  July 25, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Bravo, for an excellent post. I think the CIA might be worse than the Gestapo because as far as I can see it’s run by professional criminals. I have the sense that the people who ran the Gestapo lived by a sense (of really sick) values in their relations within their own social group. The people who run the CIA seem to be bereft of any ethical value system whatsoever. I have been agitating for Americans to shut down of the CIA since 1987, when I first learned they were trafficking cheap crack cocaine to our teenagers. At present I do battle in New Zealand, owing to a close encounter with some spooks who didn’t care much for my politics. I write about this is my recent memoir THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY ACT: MEMOIR OF AN AMERICAN REFUGEE.

  79. Nelson_2008  July 25, 2010 at 12:22 am

    Yo, Philip,

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Jews were not gassed in gas chambers in WW2. Jews were sent to work camps, which other Jews wanted bombed. Learn some real History. While you’re at it, maybe learn some basic grammar and spelling, too.

  80. Joe Spenner  July 24, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Dig into the real roots of the CIA, and you will find they reach all the way to Britain. Start with a paperback titled: “A MAN CALLED INTREPID. by William Stevenson, available from most libraries, or the internet.

    Turn to the index a pick up the trail on page 109; Baker Street Club becomes British Security coordination (BSC).

    Pages 174 – 175 comment on British Security Coordination (BSC), morfing into Office of Strategic Services (OSS), which later became the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Enough grains of sand can make a wall.
    Joe Spenner

  81. Peter T  July 24, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Crooks In Action CIA
    Murders Drug dealers Criminals
    Whats the difference between total evil and the CIA ? Nothing

  82. Lem G.  July 24, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    When you continue to allow a clandestine organization to be “Above the LAW”, you get what you pay for in coups, internment camps, the disappearance of selected
    individuals in specific countries that don’t think properly and the worst part is that they are once again dealing in heroin production and private financing of theirown separate agenda from the Golden Triangle of Burma, Thailand & Cambodia during our stint in IndoChina and now, with a 2.0 version to Afghanistan. Buying off warlords, arming insurgents AND security forces simultaneously while ensuring that the infrastructure remains in the 18th century.
    DUPLICITY and “plausible deniability” are two tenants of this form of sith lords and their dark apprentices. “Need to know basis” is a slippery downhill policy for losing our nation’s sense of humanity around the globe.
    A “Legacy of Ashes” indeed.

  83. Andre Ouellet  July 24, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I bet you would enjoy “THE SECRET HISTORY OF AIRPLANE SABOTAGE”, available at the late Sherman Skolnick’s site( ). Worth viewing before it is disappeared. A good companion site is Akancide ( ). The two will give you a warm feeling about our loving government.

  84. jack h.  July 24, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    no one has had the guts to speak up about c.i.a. mind control experiments on nam vets in v.a. hospitals.i know this because i was one of the lab rats who didnt volunteer.they tortured american veterans in there own hospitals.and they just might set there sights on all of you.

  85. Rob Base  July 24, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    The CIA is ahead of the curve. The outlawing of the CIA would not make an ounce of difference quite simply because those who issue the orders would not be affected. Assassinations, gun running, coups, drugs and money laundering operations would carry on as per normal. The American government no longer fears the will of the people and it is that fact alone that allows them to run rampant throughout the world.

    I am tempted to say that the CIA is the intelligence wing of Lucifer himself.

  86. stevor  July 24, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Yeah, the Democrats and GOP are out of control (or more correctly described, OWNED by those “elites”). Too bad those same two parties are infiltrating the TEA party, claiming it is “racist”, and fighting the ONLY group that has a chance to take over the country, to return it to what our founders wanted it to be.

  87. stevor  July 24, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Yeah, Clinton and the drug money is pretty well documented. Not being in the know, I’m curious just how much of the Mexican “drug cartel” is CIA run. (I figure the Haitian drug cartel and the “capturing” of that “ring leader” was just a photo opportunity).

  88. stevor  July 24, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Well, I’m sure glad Obummer will “CHANGE” all that, exposing these crooks.

    Oh, he’s not doing it? Oh, he is OWNED by them (he is Bush III).

    Definitely don’t educate those who voted for him and expect them to change their HOPEs about him doing anything for the PEOPLE of the USA but, instead, help the FASCISTS who either want to take over the USA through the Democrat’s government or the GOP bankers/corporations (or both).

  89. Philip B Kirschner  July 24, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Izzy, Stop lieing. I happen to be a member of the church of jesus christ if latter day saints. My grandfather libertated the death camps of Hitlers Nazi Germany. Your a racist, weasel and liar. I have pitty for people like you. I really do. Hitler murdered a group of people on the perception that thier faith is a race. Those were the very same globalists like prescott bush who funded the nazi holocust. The Central inteligence agency was supposed to gather information and report to the president. This war part of a decision making process.

    Your calling my grandfather a liar by denying the holcoust.

  90. sovereignthink  July 24, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    We have the lot of them on the ropes.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski – At CFR conference in Montreal
    On the Two New Global Oppositions to Global Governance
    CFR Goals of Global Imperialism and World Domination Sees Difficult Times Ahead. Derailing Sounds warning of B/O (bush/obama) Railroading to Increase.
    “Let me begin by making just a thumbnail definition of the geo-political context in which we all find ourselves, including America.

    “And in my perspective that geo-political context is very much defined by Two New Global Realities.

    “…for the first time in all of human history, mankind is politically awakened. That’s a total new reality, Total new reality.”


    Let’s stay focused on those that violate our Private Liberty and Freedom or Public Justice and Equity

  91. HOW ABOUT THE MURDERS IT COMMITTED ON 270 PAN AM 103 PASSENGERS??  July 24, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    It’s been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that AL-CIA-DA murdered about 264 ‘other’ people to kill ‘8’ american citizens who were on the plane to testify about DEA and CIA drug trafficking.

    It’s proven that the bomb was C-4 placed on the interior of the fuselage on a stringer or structural component, not in a ‘boom box’ as alleged by the planted evidence.

    It’s proven that they paid a ‘fake’ expert witness almost 4 million dollars to frame Magrahi.

    It’s been proven that TWO flight crew members actually survived the plunge to the ground in the nose section, only to ‘die’ because CIA demanded they not be moved from the crash site.

    It’s been PROVEN the SCOTTISH AUTHORITIES protested the CIA derailing their investigation.

    It’s been PROVEN that Magrahi was an innocent ‘patsy’ and had nothing to do with it.

    It’s been PROVEN that State Dept. personnel were warned to stay off that flight and they in fact did, while the ‘targeted’ government employees who worked for the DEA were never afforded the warning.

    It’s been PROVEN the CIA was all over the crash site, having been pre-positioned in country, in ADVANCE.

    It’s been PROVEN that CIA is behind the murder of John F. Kennedy and has been behind virtually every murder, including Martin Luther King’s killing, and Robert F. Kennedy’s murder.

    Why is CIA still allowed to exist??? Why?

  92. Cold Wind  July 24, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Obviously, this nation would be better off by dismantling the CIA. The CIA is guilty of countless crimes, murder and mayhem and, now especially, it has turned its malice against the American people. In addition, the CIA has been for years infiltrated and influenced by Israeli moles wherein its mission has been subverted to serve Israel and not the natural interest of the American people. The JFK assassination signifies how deeply corrupt the CIA is. It doesn’t matter what Ray McGovern says, the CIA must go!

  93. Nelson_2008  July 24, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    In the sense that millions of people can now see what they’re doing, they’ve already been “caught”; the problem is, they own the investigative agencies, courts, major media, etc.

    If they can blow up three buildings and murder 3000 people on U.S. soil, in broad daylight, in front of the whole world, then make up absurd stories and blame it on “Arabs”, and nobody anywhere in the world will confront them about it, then they can apparently do whatever they want, with no fear of consequences.

  94. Shawn  July 24, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    I am in agreement with you Ross. I echo your lucid and most probably misunderstood comments. Let us hope more sleeping humans wake up before those that have little in common with us get the final word. Thanks.

  95. Anonymous  July 24, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    All the wrongs mentioned in the article can be said about the military as well with just a few semantic rearrangements.
    The whole government is out of control.

  96. G Street  July 24, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Seems like a bunch of people in power went into business for themselves. Thanks for telling the truth, although what politician today could even pull off a rebuke let alone a decommission? And if by some wild stroke the CIA were banned, do you think they’d go quietly? No, along with the bankers, they seem to own the place.

  97. Benjamin  July 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Don’t forget the drug running! Don’t forget that the CIA imports cocaine into the U.S. so that it can pad its budget without going to Congress! Black market money is oh so much more useful for “covert operations” than legal money, because legal money creates a paper trail and requires someone else’s approval. The U.N. has reported that major banks would recently have gone bankrupt if they weren’t laundering massive amounts of drug money.

  98. skeptomaniac  July 24, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    “as the ‘collateral damage’ that befell New York City in September 2001…”

    yeah, “collateral damage” ;o), that’s a good term for it. After WMD’s, Iraq/9-11, insider trading, Valerie Plame, the yellow cake lie, afterdowningstreet, rendition, torture, wire-tapping, patriot act, anthrax, wtc7 final report, 35 Articles of treason, it is beyond reproach that we as a people still abide by this gov’t. It is our Constitutional right to cast off this government and install a new one.

    I’ll leave you with this:
    “We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” – Albert Einstein

  99. Rico Tubbs  July 24, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    What was it JFK said he wanted to do? Scatter the CIA into “…a thousand pieces.”

    Thank the Good that I found this website. A Veteran myself who knows how diabolical this Intelligence Cabal is (along with its counterparts Mossad, ISI, MI5, MI6, etc.).

    Prescott Bush is partly responsible with his fellow “Bonesman” or “Brothers under the skin” from Skull and Bones from Yale University for taking the OSS and transforming it into the dirty CIA.

    Intelligence agencies are original issues of the BANKERS. The reason Nathan Rothschild was able to take control of the Bank of England was that he had advanced intelligence of Napoleon’s loss at Waterloo which he spun as a victory, got the whole of the Stock Market to sell all at re-donk-U-lously low prices, then he released the REAL intel, and bought the Bank and subsequently the Nation of England.


  100. Izzy  July 24, 2010 at 10:24 am

    There was no ‘holocaust’ by Hitler. There were no six million Jews. There were no gas chambers. It’s a gigantic fraud. Now let’s talk about the 20 to 60 million Russians that the Jews murdered when they ran the Soviet Union. That was a holocaust.

  101. Bud Butley  July 24, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Gary Webb, of the San Jose Chronicle, was right.

  102. Ross  July 24, 2010 at 8:50 am

    The Global elites are stuffing up so blatently and frequently,you have to wonder whether or not like many pathological criminals,they want to be caught,since their own perverted actions have crippled their own growth.No constraints on their actions has initiated this unrelenting path of decay.

    They have no concept of the allegiances of common decency,trust love which make the real world operate,yet actively try to destroy the very thing which sustains them.First the gods make them confused,then insanity prevails.The nukes are not in safe hands.

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