GORDON DUFF AND ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE: BIN LADEN’S DEATH AND PERCEPTIONS OF THE PRESS

Commentary: Elvis bin Laden  (and editorial response from Veterans Today)

By ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE FOR UPI AND GORDON DUFF FOR VETERANS TODAY

“WASHINGTON, July 26 (UPI) — The “Veterans Today” Network, a one-man show on the Internet created and run by Gordon Duff, a 100 percent disabled Marine Vietnam veteran, states flatly that 9/11 was a CIA/Mossad conspiracy and that Osama bin Laden wasn’t involved and died in 2001.This can easily be dismissed as yet another example of deliberately disseminated disinformation riddled with intentionally false or inaccurate data designed to confuse the adversary. But some key intelligence officials are taking bin Laden’s reported demise seriously.  CIA Director Leon Panetta said in early July that the intelligence agency hadn’t been able to positively confirm any specific information on the uber-terrorist since “late 2001.” And all those audio and video tapes broadcast by the Qatar-based Al Jazeera global television network? Clever Israeli forgeries, says Duff.”

Arnaud,

 Thank you for you semi-kind words though only roughly accurate in some ways and less accurate in others.  Please note that I have never considered the “Bin Laden Studios” forgeries as “clever.”  Considering the thousands who have died because of them, terms like “tragic” apply but, from a technical standpoint, “inane” or “amateurish” is more accurate.

Arnaud, yes, you are right.  I killed Osama bin Laden.  Too many Americans had died hunting a ghost.  It had to stop, the Bush era “Where’s Waldo” game, branding a phony terrorist mastermind for the lazy media hacks had destroyed too many American families.  As Wiki-Leaks has pointed out, those drone attacks, some supposedly chasing bin Laden, are responsible for more than a bit of “collateral damage,” the term we now apply to children we kill out of carelessness and intolerance.

I am hardly the founder of Veterans Today. Our editorial staff includes Jeff Gates, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, Colonel Eugene Khruschev, Major Bobby Hanifin, Khalil Nouri, Colonel James Hanke, Raja Mujtaba, Jim W. Dean, Carol Duff and John Allen. We have over 30 active staff writers and over a dozen guest writers including your good friends Lt. General Hamid Gul, Admiral Sirohey, General Beg and all those other Pakistanis you write about.

(Editor’s note:  Veterans Today is 10 times larger today (2011) and has a circulation approaching the upper half of the top 10 newspapers in the US.)

We provide a home for those willing to answer to the truth only and not spend their lives as lapdogs to the corporations that now control 95% of the major media outlets, dictating fact into fiction and myth into disinformation for public consumption.

 I am far from our most popular writer. I am surrounded by people with genuine talent, something I lack.

 The idea that you dismiss Israel’s role in everything on a regular basis is an indication of how ill informed you are. I am certain that you, of all people, have a detailed and accurate knowlege of Israeli history but I am equally certain that you are unfamiliar with much of the subtext. 

 We would gladly help you in this area.

 You are talking to people here, many of whom have fought in the wars you write about. When I sit and talk to my friend Hamid Gul, among others, we share some things in common you may not.  We are patriots and nationalists, hardly neutral.  Gul sides with Pakistan.  I support the United States. 

Some on our staff, particularly those from Afghanistan, are deeply suspicious of Gul. I appreciate his intelligence and enjoy his company.  History will tell, if we live long enough to have a history.

 You are certainly right to, finally, so many years later, catch on that bin Laden has gone the way of Elvis. You could also start catching on about the Indo-Israeli nexus in Afghanistan, the role of the CIA in drug running there or the long history of false flag operations our Israeli friends have been involved in and still are.

Jeff Gates will gladly brief you on Israel and get you a copy of his book. Col. Khrushchev will glady brief you on CIA drug running in Afghanistan. I can arrange for you to discuss Hamid Gul’s personal proclivities with him if you wish.

 Alan Sabrosky can tell you why he believes Israel is responsible for 9/11.  Not everyone is terrified of AIPAC and the ADL or having their tea poisoned.

 Phillip Tourney can tell you what it was like to be on the USS Liberty, napalmed and strafed by Israelis and spending years hearing it lied about. He is one of my friends also. 

 Ken O’Keefe can tell you about the attack on the Mavi Marmara. First person accounts are so much more “journalistic” than press releases. Ken is a friend also.

 Khalil Nouri can tell you about Afghanistan and the reality of Karzai’s rule.  I hope you are following his work.

 Admiral Sirohey can tell you about America’s rendition program and Dr. Aafia, kidnapped, tortured and then convicted in at a rigged trial in an American court. 

 I am simply glad to see someone begin catching on. It would be better were you to examine what your own article means. If bin Laden is dead and Israel is keeping him alive, what does it mean?

 I think you understand what it is like working on the “dark side” of journalism. As Oliver Stone recently mentioned, well, can we even discuss that. Mentioning that the media is controlled by Israeli’s with a proclivity for obfuscation can be dangerous to one’s career? Is this why you keep quiet on such things?

 As for our readership, yes, we have 310,000 daily subscribers, thousand more each week at Veterans Today. As with your work, we have a few mirror sites. A quick scan of Google will reveal the numbers.  Our mirror subscribers take the numbers a bit further, so much so it is clear why I am being addressed today.  It is a reasonable guess that your article will receive much more readership here than elsewhere.  We are glad to include your voice with our own.

 What we need to ask ourselves is why we do what we do? Is it worth turning down the free vacations to Israel, the fat jobs with defense contractors or suffering continual threats simply to tell a truth so many others choose to ignore for a paycheck?  Why would so many writers choose to work for free?  Is it possible that the only real “free press” left is the one that doesn’t have to dance with the devil for pay?  Can you think of a commercial news outlet that isn’t stained by something much worse than bias, we aren’t just talking Fox News here?

 Our primary job is to speak for 27 million veteran families in the United States and 1.4 million members of our military. We have a relatively large readership overseas, with most readers in Israel and India for some reason. Don’t ask me why.  Much of our expertise in these areas and others comes from our readers who communicate with us constantly.  This is the great advantage of the internet.  The email trails between our writers and editors include top members of our government and defense establishment on a daily basis. 

What is “guff” to you is “gold” to them.  Even the Pentagon “Earlybird” is crippled by its dependence on the “useless news.”

 Take our recent stories about missing nuclear weapons. You really think we aren’t well informed? I am certain you have wonderful contacts in the UK. Why would “people” want to make sure we knew that North Korea had exploded a nuclear weapon identical to the September 22, 1979 Indian Ocean test by South Africa and Israel?

 What does this mean?

 What does it have to do with the murder of Dr. David Kelly? How can a story this big be buried?

 Why do Alan Hart and I see things the same way and you see them so differently? Do we have different agendas? Do we have different beliefs? Is one of us delusional? I am certainly less polite. You are, if anything, polite.

 Are you too polite to the wrong people?

 What I advocate is that you take a new look at people who see things differently than you do. You have already gone out on a limb over Osama bin Laden, though your story has failed to deal with the fallout of 9 years of lies.

 If Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11, then why is the United States in Afghanistan at all? Why is nothing written of the $65 billion dollar drug industry? When Sibel Edmonds testified that the US was shipping narcotics on rendition flights, why was that not widely reported or investigated? She is on this email also. It seems my “one man show” has alot of co-conspirators.

 If you want to look at something today, take a look at the Wiki-Leaks story. Why were the documents leaked? Who does it serve? What does the timing mean? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to pick up an agenda, one the MSM has missed. Wiki-Leaks got a ton of “chicken-feed” and some carefully crafted disinformation or this is what my “conspiratorial-self” is telling me.

 Check.

 It is also what members of the intelligence community will tell you. Why isn’t it being reported or even being suggested? I can’t imagine why the question isn’t even mentioned? Why has that kind of power? Is everyone that stupid? Consider the last question less than rhetorical.

 Thus we head back to common ground, the death of Osama bin Laden, something I have discussed with many as you have. If you hear what I hear, and I suspect we talk to the same people, they have long been telling you they “suspect” bin Laden has been dead since 2001.

 Carry this further to “dead in 2001” and “not involved in the planning and execution of 9/11.” Then I suggest you review the testimony before the 9/11 Commission, in particular that of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.  Most of the press missed it.  We didn’t. 

 You won’t need to ask about nano-thermite, mysterious WTC7 or the dancing Israelis. You won’t have to recheck those long supposedly “debunked” stories about how many Israeli passport holders missed work that day. Check the edits on Wikipedia last week. When Wikipedia showed no Israeli passport holders among the 9/11 dead, why was it altered?  If you aren’t aware, a staggering number of Israeli passport holders worked in the WTC.  Conspiracy theory or statistical anomaly? I don’t know anything of people being warned of 9/11, I only know that those who claimed there was no warning lied about the numbers.  We caught them.  As for the truth, we may never know the truth.  And so it goes.

Oh, sorry, this crosses the line into areas members of the press are destroyed over.

 When John McCain ran for president, were you aware of his connections to organized crime or his presidential pardon? The recent exchange in Tempe (on video) between Jeff Gates and McCain is quite amusing. I would ask why it is never reported but I suggest you know. The last journalist who carried the story had his car blown up with him in it.

 Again we return to Osama bin Laden. If he was dead and we knew, and I have been assured by “trusted sources” that we knew, why did we lie? Look at Afghanistan today and guess.

 When America found it lost nearly $300 billion in Iraq, why was nothing done? When Iraq found their oil revenues more than a bit shy, ships loaded from the Ceyhan pipeline but nothing paid, why wasn’t it reported? There was a conference on this in Iraq. If you attended, did you note where I was sitting?

 I assume we are all good people, or believe we are. Many of the finest people I have met in my life are on this email. We don’t always agree but all are friends.

 Gordon Duff

Senior Editor

www.veteranstoday.com

Commentary: Elvis bin Laden

By ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE

UPI Editor at Large

WASHINGTON, July 26 (UPI) — The “Veterans Today” Network, a one-man show on the Internet created and run by Gordon Duff, a 100 percent disabled Marine Vietnam veteran, states flatly that 9/11 was a CIA/Mossad conspiracy and that Osama bin Laden wasn’t involved and died in 2001.

This can easily be dismissed as yet another example of deliberately disseminated disinformation riddled with intentionally false or inaccurate data designed to confuse the adversary. But some key intelligence officials are taking bin Laden’s reported demise seriously.

CIA Director Leon Panetta said in early July that the intelligence agency hadn’t been able to positively confirm any specific information on the uber-terrorist since “late 2001.” And all those audio and video tapes broadcast by the Qatar-based Al Jazeera global television network? Clever Israeli forgeries, says Duff.

Many other voices in cyberspace claim the bin Laden myth is kept “alive” to justify the Afghan war and the global war on terror.

Angelo Codevilla, who teaches international relations at Boston University, is a former U.S. intelligence officer who studied Soviet disinformation techniques during the Cold War. He says a close examination of all the alleged bin Laden tapes, including the videos, have convinced him that Elvis Presley is more alive than Osama bin Laden.

By all accounts from those who knew him prior to 9/11, bin Laden was a deeply religious man and his early tapes after 9/11 were sprinkled with references to God and the Prophet Muhammad. Not so the later ones, which were subsequently analyzed by some experts who said they were professional forgeries.

The last time credible intercepts of bin Laden’s voice were made by overhead satellites in early December 2001 as he was escaping through the Tora Bora mountain range from Afghanistan to the sanctuary of Pakistan’s tribal areas.

The late Ajmal Khattak, the head of the Khattak tribe, who had half a million followers in the region, advised this reporter and his Pakistani assistant Ammar Turabi, and our multilingual security, to rent horses and proceed to an exit from Tora Bora in the Tirah Valley. We got there Dec. 11. Local villagers told us bin Laden and some 50 fighters had emerged Dec. 9 and were met by a convoy of utility vehicles that sped off in the direction Peshawar.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton evidently had more recent intelligence on her last visit to Pakistan July 21. She said she believes “elements” of the Pakistani government know bin Laden’s whereabouts. Those with the knowledge, she added, are in the “bowels” of the bureaucracy, not the “top levels of government.” She was clearly referring to some members of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency.

Former ISI chief Gen. Hamid Gull is a personal friend of both bin Laden and Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, and bin Laden’s no. 2, the Egyptian doctor Adman al-Zawahiri. Gul is an advocate of Pakistan’s politico-religious extremists and self-declared enemy of the United States.

There are “retired” ISI officers who still see bin Laden as a hero of the joint campaign against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s. Gul and his followers are also working to hasten an end to the U.S. presence in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

For the now growing number who believes bin Laden is dead, there is only one valid message from bin Laden. It was his open letter to the “Pakistani people,” on Al Jazeera, dated Sept. 24, 2001, 13 days after 9/11, in which he said:

— “I have already stated that I was not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States.

— “Neither had I any knowledge of these attacks nor do I consider the killing of innocent women and children and other humans, as an appreciable act … Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent … people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.

— “All that is going in Palestine … is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.”

Those who believe Osama Bin Laden is alive, and guilty of killing almost 3,000, quote his 2004 talk in which he said he thought of attacking U.S. skyscrapers when he saw Israeli aircraft bombing tower blocks in Lebanon in 1982.

“God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the twin towers,” he said then, “but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind.”

While Duff is mostly guff for those whose job is to keep tabs on all the twists and turns since 9/11, there is also the post 9/11 generation that doesn’t read newspapers or weekly magazines and gets its news fix online. The conspiracy theory coupled with disinformation from all sides makes for more interesting reading. It also gives youngsters a leg up on their “naive” elders.

Bin Laden was suffering from a kidney ailment and some experts say he died Dec. 13, four days after his escape from Tora Bora. Videos since then, neutral experts say, show bin Laden writing with his right hand but he is well known as left-handed. They also detected differences in the shape of the nose, skin color and speech.

Duff does commentary on his conspiracy theories for radio and TV news programs; his provocative articles are carried the world over and his Web site gets 22 million page hits a month. Some of his recent “Top 10 Stories of the Week”: “The CIA: Beyond Redemption and Should Be Terminated”; “Does Event Honoring Israeli Spy Suggest Another Israeli Operation?”; “Wikipedia Revisionism to Israeli Pressure Groups.”

Duff’s “Corporate Profile” says, “We are a full service Network of 63 Web sites that service the U.S. Military Veterans’ Community,” which claims “over 310,000 plus unique visitors per month” and recently grew 39 percent in one month.

On the World Wide Web, there are no red lines between information, misinformation and disinformation.

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31 Responses to "GORDON DUFF AND ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE: BIN LADEN’S DEATH AND PERCEPTIONS OF THE PRESS"

  1. Michael J Volz  August 1, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    A must watch is Wolf Blitzer interviewing David Duke on CNN (the situation room) who was in Tehran at the time. Duke set old Blitzer upside down by mentioning that Blitzer was a jewish supremacist and former employee of AIPAC.

    Duke neatly retorted that Blitzer thought he could “handle”
    him which explained why Wolf “let him on” the show to begin with. They have kept him off the mainstream media for years but made a mistake and did not learn their lesson about having such truth tellers on.

    Through the entire interview a cursor looking like a nuclear explosion is pulsating over a map of Iran.

    The interview is hilarious in my opinion.

    Mike

  2. rickdimbath  July 30, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Thank you Michael J Volz, I did not know specifically
    that Wolf Blitzer was/is ADL.

    please keep posting more truth Michael J Volz

  3. rickdimbath  July 30, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Osama Bin Laden is hiding inside your Television Set

  4. rickdimbath  July 30, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    DAN IS A PAID DIS-INFO SHILL

  5. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Stick to Hebrew Faiz, I’m sure you speak it well!

    Mike

  6. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:34 am

    “Sharia for committing crime of sleeping with a man without marriage, that was uncivilized, barbaric, islamicst afghanistan taliban.”

    Are these the same dirty dogs who are running Israhell’s whorehouses and abusing the nice blond shiksas from russia and the Ukraine???

    Mike

  7. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Faiz, Wow! You have a lot of “information”!!!!

    Are you sure you aren’t getting Mumbai mixed up with Tel Aviv???? They both have funny sounding foreign names but I believe they are actually in different countries!

    Mike

  8. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Hey Dan,

    While you’re at it, you might try putting on a tin foil hat. it should only take “a few minutes” to make. In your condition, anything’s worth a try!

    I know your lines may go over well at your favorite sports bar but on this site you will need a higher level of knowledge to fit in.

    Mike

  9. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Edward, remember: an antisemite is someone the jews hate (even if their own brother, who has broken tribal ranks); NOT SOMEONE WHO HATES JEWS.

    MIKE

  10. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Correct, Arny just outed himself once and for all and Gordon completely and brilliantly filled in and capped his grave!

    Progress is being made in this war. Two big time wasters, de Borchgrave and Noam Chomsky are dead and gone.

    Mike

  11. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Didn’t they use to call that a “snipe” hunt?
    mike

  12. Michael J Volz  July 28, 2010 at 7:53 am

    Dan,

    USA veterans TODAY are waking up! When American “leaders” pledge fealty to a foreign government and mainstream “authoritative” and “respected” news organs such as the Jew York Times engage in treason by failing to investigate and print the truth, real patriots need to speak up about matters beyond medical care and pensions. Gordon Duff Et. Al. Have risen to the occasion and duty instead of being used as cheerleaders for more unjust and illegal wars.

    Read Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy and Hope” in which a mainstream professor of modern world history confirms the existence and reality of “The Gnomes of Zurich” which is a small group of mysterious conspirators who run the world for their greedy benefit against the best interests of the rest of the world.

    I can only say to you, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACIES, THEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HISTORY!

    If you are not a paid disinformationist then you are lost in the woods regarding history and patriotism.

    You need more than a “few minutes” to understand what this site is all about, assuming you are the least bit sincere, which I doubt.

    Mike

  13. REY  July 28, 2010 at 2:57 am

    DAN IS SO IGNORANT IT IS ALMOST A WASTE OF TIME TO ANSWER , THE SO CALL “CONSPIRACIES” MENTIONED ON THIS SITE ARE MOSTLY BACKED UP BY DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS , BUT DAN LIKE MOST OF “SHEEPLE” PREFER TO BELIEVE IN THE OFFICIAL LIES THAN DOING HIS OWN RESEARCH.
    JUST FOR A START GOOGLE SEARCH : “AL QAIDA THE DATABASE BY PIERRE HENRI BUNE”L former French military Intelligence AND WAYNE MADSEN ( former NSA) THEY EXPOSED THE SCAM YEARS AGO. DAN !
    TO GORDON DUFF, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND TO ALL VETERANS TODAY READERS:
    BIG RED IS RIGHT ARNAUD DE BAUCHEGRAVE IS MARRIED TO ONE OF THE ROTHSCHILDS DAUGHTERS…
    HIS “WASHINGTON TIMES” IS FINANCED BY REVEREND MOON (IT IS VERY WELL DOCUMENTED) AND ARNAUD IS A CIA ASSET FOR MANY YEARS HE IS A VERY CLEVER AND VERY WELL EDUCATED (JESUITS) NEW WORLD ORDER GATE KEEPER.
    DAN WHO PROBABLY NEVER RESEARCHED CIA, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OR NSA DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN HIS LIFE, AND OF COURSE DO NOT BELIEVE IN “CONSPIRACY THEORIES” SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE WIKILEAKS ‘” WAR IN AFGHANISTAN” DOCUMENTS LEAKED TO THE PRESS LAST SUNDAY….AND REALIZE THAT OUR “WAR ON TERROR” IS INDEED A BIG LIE….READ THE DOCUMENTS ! DAN, THEY ARE AVAILABLE. AND FIND OUT WHO IS THE NUT
    YOU OR THE VETERANS TODAY READERS.

    ‘ RATIONALITY BELONGS TO THE COOL OBSERVER BECAUSE OF THE STUPIDITY OF THE AVERAGE MAN WHO FOLLOWS NOT REASON BUT FAITH AND HIS NAIVE FAITH REQUIRES NECESSARY ILLUSIONS AND EMOTIONALLY POTENT OVERSIMPLIFICATION PROVIDED BY THE MYTH MAKERS TO KEEP THE BELIEVER ON COURSE”
    PEACE.

  14. K. Rechtstein  July 28, 2010 at 12:27 am

    “de” Borchgrave and consorts want Osama Bin Laden to continue speaking up from the grave as a scarecrow they can justify with their infinite wars. Well, they missed the opportunity to clone him when he was alive. The Bin Laden scam won’t work anymore and it has backfired and hit back, like a bomerang, its own creators in the ouskirts of Tel Aviv.

  15. mrg  July 27, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Duffy,got the ratbastard right in the balls,then you gave him flowers. keep it up their starting to pay attention.

  16. Faiz  July 27, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Why are all the main stream newspapers have names like new york times??? it should be named as “Israeli times” or better “Judaist extremist mouthpiece”

  17. Faiz  July 27, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    For those who remember few months back western media was broadcasting a video taped somewhere in Afghanistan about a woman who was beaten on the basis of Sharia for committing crime of sleeping with a man without marriage, that was uncivilized, barbaric, islamicst afghanistan taliban.
    Here’s an example of Mumbai, India’s financial capital and them most modern city in India where a woman is beaten up by a mob for sleeping with her lover, her husband is the one instigating the violence:

    Beaten, bloodied and broadcast
    By: BV Shiva Shankar Date: 2010-07-27 Place: Bangalore

    Over 10 gory incidents of mob justice have been aired by TRP-hungry TV channels in July and the cops have not made one arrest so far

    MOBS are fast becoming a law unto themselves and the city police are doing nothing to curb the menace.

    There have been over 10 instances of crowds meting out justice in public that have been telecast by TRP-hungry TV news channels and not one of these self-appointed dispensers of law have been brought to book so far.

    Surekha and her lover are beaten by a mob led by her husband as cameras greedily lap up the images that were later broadcast on TV

    Police officers say they don’t want to be on the wrong side with news channels glorifying such acts of violence by broadcasting them repeatedly.

    “If anybody comes forward to complain, we can take action and book the culprits,” said Alok Kumar, joint commissioner of police (crime). “We have not received any such complaint so far, which is why there have been no arrests.”

    Surekha (38), was the latest victim at the receiving end of such a mob led by none other than her husband Jayashankar (42).

    Even as the mob rained blows on Surekha and her lover, local news channels that had been tipped off before the attack, began filming the entire episode.

    Captured on camera

    The footage was telecast with dramatic visual effects. The frames that captured the blows were flashed repeatedly at a very fast pace to racy background music.

    The strap line and top band screamed Nadathegettavalige Dharmadetu (Thrashing for an unfaithful woman).

    Shockingly, police personnel who were on the spot in Kempe Gowda Nagar off Magadi Road, where the incident unfolded, remained mute spectators even as the mob bloodied Surekha’s face and stripped her lover.

    “The media was there. We did not want to intervene as we were scared of the consequences,” said Krishnappa, Head Constable, Byadarahalli police station.

    “They could have taken us to task for coming in the way of the media on duty.”

    Not just one

    A similar incident happened last week, when an alleged mobile thief was attacked by a mob in Hasan.

    Yet another victim of mob justice, who had allegedly indulged in eve teasing, in Mysore, continues to be critical in hospital.

    The mob beat up Surekha and her lover while the media filmed it and the footage was telecast on news channels

    “Such instances of mob justice mark us as an uncivilised society. The media must act with social and moral responsibility when it deals with such issues,” said S R Nayak, chairman of State Human Rights Commission.

    “We can only request the media to behave more responsibly. We could ask the police why they did not intervene. Their inaction amounts to dereliction of duty and violation of human rights.”

    Professor Raviverma Kumar, a constitution expert and an eminent lawyer, said, he did not buy the argument that the police could not act in such cases without a complaint.

    “The police need not wait for a complaint in such cases as they are cognisable offences and they are being committed in public. It is a crime to take the law into one’s hands.

    If it is not dealt with firmly, the society will descend into jungle raj.”

    For those who remember few months back western media was broadcasting a video taped somewhere in Afghanistan about a woman who was beaten on the basis of Sharia for committing crime of sleeping with a man without marriage, that was uncivilized, barbaric, islamicst afghanistan taliban.
    Here’s an example of Mumbai, India’s financial capital and them most modern city in India where a woman is beaten up by a mob for sleeping with her lover, her husband is the one instigating the violence:

    Beaten, bloodied and broadcast
    By: BV Shiva Shankar Date: 2010-07-27 Place: Bangalore

    Over 10 gory incidents of mob justice have been aired by TRP-hungry TV channels in July and the cops have not made one arrest so far

    MOBS are fast becoming a law unto themselves and the city police are doing nothing to curb the menace.

    There have been over 10 instances of crowds meting out justice in public that have been telecast by TRP-hungry TV news channels and not one of these self-appointed dispensers of law have been brought to book so far.

    Surekha and her lover are beaten by a mob led by her husband as cameras greedily lap up the images that were later broadcast on TV

    Police officers say they don’t want to be on the wrong side with news channels glorifying such acts of violence by broadcasting them repeatedly.

    “If anybody comes forward to complain, we can take action and book the culprits,” said Alok Kumar, joint commissioner of police (crime). “We have not received any such complaint so far, which is why there have been no arrests.”

    Surekha (38), was the latest victim at the receiving end of such a mob led by none other than her husband Jayashankar (42).

    Even as the mob rained blows on Surekha and her lover, local news channels that had been tipped off before the attack, began filming the entire episode.

    Captured on camera

    The footage was telecast with dramatic visual effects. The frames that captured the blows were flashed repeatedly at a very fast pace to racy background music.

    The strap line and top band screamed Nadathegettavalige Dharmadetu (Thrashing for an unfaithful woman).

    Shockingly, police personnel who were on the spot in Kempe Gowda Nagar off Magadi Road, where the incident unfolded, remained mute spectators even as the mob bloodied Surekha’s face and stripped her lover.

    “The media was there. We did not want to intervene as we were scared of the consequences,” said Krishnappa, Head Constable, Byadarahalli police station.

    “They could have taken us to task for coming in the way of the media on duty.”

    Not just one

    A similar incident happened last week, when an alleged mobile thief was attacked by a mob in Hasan.

    Yet another victim of mob justice, who had allegedly indulged in eve teasing, in Mysore, continues to be critical in hospital.

    The mob beat up Surekha and her lover while the media filmed it and the footage was telecast on news channels

    “Such instances of mob justice mark us as an uncivilised society. The media must act with social and moral responsibility when it deals with such issues,” said S R Nayak, chairman of State Human Rights Commission.

    “We can only request the media to behave more responsibly. We could ask the police why they did not intervene. Their inaction amounts to dereliction of duty and violation of human rights.”

    Professor Raviverma Kumar, a constitution expert and an eminent lawyer, said, he did not buy the argument that the police could not act in such cases without a complaint.

    “The police need not wait for a complaint in such cases as they are cognisable offences and they are being committed in public. It is a crime to take the law into one’s hands.

    If it is not dealt with firmly, the society will descend into jungle raj.”

  18. Dan  July 27, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Why is this website called Veterans Today? After checking out this site for just a few minutes it’s obvious this is just a forum for conspiracy nuts and other assorted whackjobs. What a joke.

  19. K. Rechtstein  July 27, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Gordon, I admire you for your courage-intégrité-franchise (the kind of values “de” Borchgrave, sure only dreams of and will never attain). Expect to hear from the GB Queen in personae next time, now that you hit the nobility square on the head in a most eloquent way. Cheers for a K.O. victory, Gordon Duff style. When the dogs bark, it means that the caravan is moving. Keep up informing the world. Vet-today is a multiplier, it is read N’nS,E’nW. 4 days ago I got a request fr. ARG think tank to translate 2 SP

  20. ben  July 27, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    what’s the best treatment for it?

  21. ben  July 27, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Bin Laden was a pied piper who led radical jihadists away from the Saudi palace walls that they could be thrown to the Russian cannons.

  22. Doug  July 27, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Thanks for the discourse…at some point when we reach the ‘100th monkey’, when
    enough people understand the tyranny and corruption that has engulfed our system of government, an experiment that has been coopted by ‘neocons’, (criminals of the highest order) and others whom have no integrity or basic appreciation for the human condition…then, possibly we will get together and forget our petty party differences, for just a while, while we reset this experiment in a ‘republic’, (not perfect yet worthy of pursuit) and then arrest the leaders and throw out the imcumbents whom continue this nightmare and arrest the perpetrators of the crime of the century, the demolition of the world trade center towers and prosecute all whom were involved the planning, execution and coverup. Best Wishes, Doug

  23. MK  July 27, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Dear Mr. Arnaud,

    While Gordon Duff has dealt with your thinly-veiled implications that he is running his own “propaganda” operation that is not too be taken seriously, I would like to dig right into the implications that you intended by using the terms “100 percent disabled.”

    I am not a veteran of any war. I do have PTSD. Despite my condition, I am not delusional, dangerous or unreliable as a witness as the many mental health exams that I have successfully passed can attest. Your implication that Duff’s disability has affected his reasoning and therefore makes him impeachable is ludicrous. I don’t know if he has PTSD or not, but I don’t see how his disability, whatever it might be, has any bearing on his researching or writing ability.

    PTSD is not a defect in the reasoning center of the brain. It is a problem that stems from too much trauma for too long a period of time and more related to the endocrine system than the brain itself. Generally, it manifests itself in the inability to quell the panic response adequately such that the people who suffer from PTSD tend to over-react to certain situations. This over-reaction seldom plays out as violence or delusion as Hollywood would have us believe. Mostly, it translates to irritability and the need to move out of crowded situations. Sometimes PTSD impairs the ability of an individual to deal with forms or bureaucracies. Given time, many people suffering from PTSD will recover given the right circumstances and treatment. If handled properly when they are suffering from PTSD, they can regain control of their panic response themselves.

    MK

  24. Patricia Turis  July 27, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    How refreshing to read what I have believed since I first saw Ben Landen on tv. I am a retired psychologist and when I saw him, I recognized deep religious beliefs that did not include wanton killing. I also saw a man whose health was ebbing. I wonder why his family, visiting at the time of the attack, agreed for him to be a scapegoat. He was the symbol that initiated war…something that I investigated when the Gulf War began. The US has been at war continually since the inception of this nation. We have either been killing Indians, citizens of foreign countries or ourselves (civil war). Our medical system is based on allopathy…the killing off of competitive organisms, plants, etc., instead of building a healthy physical environment. Our political system does the same. It uses war to stimulate wealth building instead of creating peaceful means of improving our economy. Out medical system is very symbolic of our national way of life. We have a war on poverty, a war on drugs, a war on cancer, a war on illiteracy. We are a warring nation. It is in our psyche and a part of who we believe we are…and, justifiably, because as Pete Seeger used to say, we have “God On Our Side.” The controllers of Israel showed their true colors long before The Liberty was attacked, but The Liberty attack revealed who really controlled our President and our military. It also illuminated the probability of Isarael being behind the 2001 destruction. It is sad that our citizens are so gullile and easily brainwashed and led. The Truth Shall Set You Free…the question is, when? I’m still waiting!

  25. Big Red  July 27, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    If memory serves me right Arnaud is a distant relative of the Rothschild banking family. He has always been in my opinion,a NWO toady. He can be fun to watch though.

  26. Marat  July 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Such person like You, Mr Duff, can’t be out of somebody’s hostile attention. Good luck, I think You manage their attempts perfectly well.
    Best regards,

  27. Brian  July 27, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I’m surprised a UPI editor would mention the idea that 911 was a CIA/Mossad operation. He didn’t even try to destroy the idea. I have stated on many occasions that 911 was a Mossad operation. There may have been some CIA members involved and Gordon may have access to some information about the CIA and 911 I don’t know about.

    The UPI editor did not mention that Osama bin Laden is not wanted by the FBI for the 911 attacks due to no hard evidence. He also failed to mention that the supposed ring leader, Mohamed Atta was being impersonated. Perhaps the Mossad did 911 theory will become mainstream.

    Well, if it becomes mainstream that Osama is dead I’m hoping the Mossad hires a sexy Arab woman to be the new leader of their phony terrorism organization.

  28. Dan  July 27, 2010 at 11:15 am

    I’d been a fan of Arnaud de Borchgrave going back many years until it became apparent he morphed into a toadeating neocon shill. He’s also delusional if he thinks the evidence linking Israel to 9/11 can be dismissed with by categorizing it as a “conspiracy theory.” But, no hard feelings, and as just one reader of VT, I’d like thank His Excellency for his paranoid attack, inadvertently revealing his own immersion in delusional “conspiracy theory” by the way, and which should go a long way to increasing VTs readership, who are not so glibly dismissive of five Israeli Mossad agents having set up their cameras before the first plane struck the trade center, of whom there are photos of their celebrating the event, and, for example, the unquestionably controlled demolition of WTC7 at 5:20 p.m., 30 minutes after its demolition was announced on TV.

  29. Rehmat  July 27, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Osama Bin Laden died long time ago due to his acute kidney problem. However, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden like the other ghosts such as Al-Qaeda, Holocaust and anti-Semitism has to be kept alive for survival of Judeo-Christian imperialism.

    Pakistan’s former military dictator confirmed the death of OBL in 2003. It was also confirmed, although indirectly, by Dubya Bush when he said that lacating OBL is not a priority for his administration.

    However, the neocons (mostly Jewish) still need OBL ghost to keep US forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan in order to bring a regime change in Tehran – which according to the ‘Foreign Policy Journal (a pro-Israel propaganda outlet) the Islamic Republic has been reaping gains from US occupation in Afghanistan.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/tehran-gains-from-washingtons-wars-for-israel/

  30. Michael J Volz  July 27, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Thanks for cracking that old fart over the head with a two by four! it was long overdue and the first time in his long career of disinformation that he has gotten what he deserved.

    It reminds me of the last time wolf blitzer had the nerve to invite David Duke into the situation room! Duke made a complete fool of blitzer and Americans watching found out what few of them knew: blitzer is/was an agent of the Defamation League (You call the ADL), mossad, AIPAC, and generally a jewish supremacist and antigentilist!

    As Chris Bollyn says you must be “over the target” when you attract the attention of ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE.

    Mike

  31. Edward Rynearson  July 27, 2010 at 9:51 am

    March 30, 2010

    Kevin Barrett interviews Alan Sabrosky whose forceful and unequivocal statement that the Israeli Mossad did 9/11 sent shock waves through the 9/11 truth movement. Some have cheered his forthright honesty and heartfelt sincerity. Others are afraid of the PR blowback. A few have attacked Sabrosky, calling him a provocateur or even an anti-Semite, which seems odd since Sabrosky is part Jewish and obviously concerned for the welfare of Jewish Americans in the coming post-9/11-truth world.

    http://edwardrynearson.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/israel-did-911-conversations-withabout-alan-sabrosky/

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