GORDON DUFF: The Ground Zero Mosque Lies



By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

There never were plans for a mosque at “ground zero.”  The entire story is made up by a public relations agency working with the Israeli government and the GOP.  There are plans for an Islamic center in an old Burlington Coat Factory store blocks away.  That far down the island of Manhattan, a couple blocks away is “across town.”  The idea that Israel is financing the “Ground Zero Mosque” controversy when Mossad agents were arrested, dancing in the streets on 9/11, is an obscenity.

Let’s get some facts straight.  Since 2001 alot has happened, none of it reported widely in the press.  It has been categorically proven that the supposed hijackers could never have flown any of the planes on 9/11.  Start with a reality check.  This is why “9/11” as people are still being misinformed simply never happened:

Nila Sagadevan is an aeronautical engineer and a pilot.  There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although proven to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172, had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators.   What follows is an attempt to bury this myth once and for all, because I’ve heard this ludicrous explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on the Internet and the TV networks—invariably by people who know nothing substantive about flight simulators, flying, or even airplanes.

 A common misconception non-pilots have about simulators is how “easy” it is to operate them. They are indeed relatively easy to operate if the objective is to make a few lazy turns and frolic about in the “open sky”. But if the intent is to execute any kind of a maneuver with even the least bit of precision, the task immediately becomes quite daunting. And if the aim is to navigate to a specific geographic location hundreds of miles away while flying at over 500 MPH, 30,000 feet above the ground the challenges become virtually impossible for an untrained pilot.

And this, precisely, is what the four hijacker pilots who could not fly a Cessna around an airport by themselves are alleged to have accomplished in multi-ton, high-speed commercial jets on 9/11.

 For a person not conversant with the practical complexities of pilotage, a modern flight simulator could present a terribly confusing and disorienting experience. These complex training devices are not even remotely similar to the video games one sees in amusement arcades, or even the software versions available for home computers.

 In order to operate a modern flight simulator with any level of skill, one has to not only be a decent pilot to begin with, but also a skilled instrument-rated one to boot — and be thoroughly familiar with the actual aircraft type the simulator represents, since the cockpit layouts vary between aircraft.

The only flight domains where an arcade/PC-type game would even begin to approach the degree of visual realism of a modern professional flight simulator would be during the take-off and landing phases. During these phases, of course, one clearly sees the bright runway lights stretched out ahead, and even peripherally sees images of buildings, etc. moving past. Take-offs—even landings, to a certain degree—are relatively “easy”, because the pilot has visual reference cues that exist “outside” the cockpit.

 But once you’ve rotated, climbed out, and reached cruising altitude in a simulator (or real airplane), and find yourself en route to some distant destination (using sophisticated electronic navigation techniques), the situation changes drastically: the pilot loses virtually all external visual reference cues, and is left entirely at the mercy of an array of complex flight and navigation instruments to provide situational cues (altitude, heading, speed, attitude, etc.)

 In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well. When flying “blind”, I.e., with no ground reference cues, it takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret, and then apply, this data intelligently. If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.

 And IFR Rule #1: Never take your eyes off your instruments, because that’s all you have!

The corollary to Rule #1: If you can’t read the instruments in a quick, smooth, disciplined, scan, you’re as good as dead. Accident records from around the world are replete with reports of any number of good pilots — I.e., professional instrument-rated pilots — who ‘bought the farm’ because they ‘lost it’ while flying in IFR conditions.

 Let me place this in the context of the 9/11 hijacker-pilots. These men were repeatedly deemed incompetent to solo a simple Cessna-172 — an elementary exercise that involves flying this little trainer once around the patch on a sunny day. A student’s first solo flight involves a simple circuit: take-off, followed by four gentle left turns ending with a landing back on the runway. This is as basic as flying can possibly get.

Not one of the hijackers was deemed fit to perform this most elementary exercise by himself.

When professional airline pilots, the majority trained by the United States Air Force, were asked to recreate the New York 9/11 attack in a flight simulator, two thirds failed entirely.  None could duplicate the Pentagon attack at all.  This is what the pilots had to say:

“Regarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the ‘hijacker’s’ final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a ‘hit’. How these rookies who couldn’t fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.”

Then again, we might as well deal with the silliness of the Pentagon crash as well.  Instead of dealing with conspiracy theory, lets try some aeronautical engineering instead.  If you wonder why the internet conspiracy sites have talked about military planes crashing into the Pentagon, it is because they read the engineering reports, the ones the 9/11 Commission was not allowed to examine.  You, however, are lucky.  You can read the facts and make up your own mind:

Let it suffice to say that it is physically impossible to fly a 200,000-lb airliner 20 feet above the ground at 400 MPH.

The author, a pilot and aeronautical engineer, challenges any pilot in the world to do so in any large high-speed aircraft that has a relatively low wing-loading (such as a commercial jet). I.e., to fly the craft at 400 MPH, 20 feet above ground in a flat trajectory over a distance of one mile.

Why the stipulation of 20 feet and a mile? There were several street light poles located up to a mile away from the Pentagon that were snapped-off by the incoming aircraft; this suggests a low, flat trajectory during the final pre-impact approach phase. Further, it is known that the craft impacted the Pentagon’s ground floor. For purposes of reference: If a 757 were placed on the ground on its engine nacelles (I.e., gear retracted as in flight profile), its nose would be about fifteen feet above the ground. Ergo, for the aircraft to impact the ground floor of the Pentagon, Hanjour would have needed to have flown in with the engines buried in the Pentagon lawn.   (Editor’s note:  Grass on the lawn of the Pentagon was intact.)

At any rate, why is such ultra-low-level flight aerodynamically impossible? Because the reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half the distance of its wingspan—until speed is drastically reduced, which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

In other words, if this were a Boeing 757 as reported, the plane could not have been flown below about 60 feet above ground at 400 MPH. (Such a maneuver is entirely within the performance envelope of aircraft with high wing-loadings, such as ground-attack fighters, the B1-B bomber, and Cruise missiles—and the Global Hawk.)

Forgetting all the conspiracy theories, we can stick to the facts.  The Pentagon is 77 feet 3.5 inches high.  The lowest possible altitude a Boeing 757 aircraft can fly at, 400 mph, is 62 feet 5 inches, and that is with a top Air Force fighter jock at the controls.  Had their been real simulations it is likely we would have been subjected to two possible scenarios:

  1. The Boeing 757 would have struck the top half of the upper floor of the Pentagon and tumbled over the building while disintegrating.  At 400 mph, some sections of fuselage would have landed as far as a half mile away.
  2. The aircraft would have skipped across the top of the Pentagon like a stone on a pond, shedding its engines and would have left a debris field extending as much as a mile from the initial impact.

Simply put, Captain Charles Burlingame, Vietnam vet and fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions, a man who was known to be, not only fearless but tough as nails, would never have allowed a couple of idiots with box cutters to take over his cockpit, especially with First Officer David Charlebois to back him up. 

The imaginary hijackers certainly didn’t fly these planes anywhere, it was technically impossible.  Something else happened, we all saw it.  If we can prove, and we have, that the “9/11 hijackers” were not flying the planes then who was? 

With the anniversary of 9/11, 9 years of lies, coming up, the continual attempts to stop investigations called for by pilots, engineers, military and intelligence officers has been resisted. 

Nobody has to prove how 9/11 was accomplished.  We can only prove that it wasn’t done by Arab hijackers. 

911-we-the-peopleWHO IS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11?

With 9 years of history behind us, there are so many more possibilities.  9/11 made alot of things possible, looting the American economy, two wars, building a narcotics empire in South Asia and over 2 trillion dollars in missing Pentagon funds over 9 years.  More money has been stolen because of 9/11 than from all the wars in history combined.  Does this tell us who did it? 


If Wikileaks has proven one thing, it has shown that the internet has made it impossible to control information.  What had been, at one time, a choice of “conspiracy” sites or “legitimate news sources” has now become less clear.  Top journalists are now joining websites that aren’t afraid to ask hard questions and that don’t answer to corporate ownership and many of these sites have readership comparable to major news bureaus.  Some have more influence and others have caused so much stir that the US government has sought power to shut down the internet at will.

9/11 is a story the government can’t kill.

Thus, the only protection from speculation about who is really responsible for 9/11, speculation that invariably leads to Israel and the Mossad, is a renewal of fear-mongering, racism and Islamophobia.  Supporting these efforts is the Republican Party, slaughtered during the last election, now hoping to drum up a frenzy of fear and hate while soaking in hundreds of millions in contributions from Israel, the Wall Street “banksters” and “big Pharma.”


Two phony stories are now competing for the ignorance and fear of Americans.  The democrats are claiming that the GOP will bankrupt social security with their privatization schemes.  Story after story fills the news.  Senior citizens are voters and starvation is a good motivation for bringing people to the polls.

Republicans are still stuck with the Bush era “war on terror.”  Their hopes are that millions of Americans will hide under their beds, frightened of suicide bombers and cartoon terrorists.  Expect to see Islamophobia on nearly every TV series this fall.  Also, expect, not only terror scares but maybe a very suspicious terror attack not long before the election.  Would the GOP actually do that?  Think about it.  Remember Iraq?  WMD’s?  What do you think, especially with Israel behind them?


If you want to make a list of Americans who should be put in quarantine, kept away from decent people, the Ground Zero Mosque ploy will be a great help.  Start making a list.  See what kind of manipulation you hear, see and read.  See who is making all the noise.  If you want to know how to tell who Americas biggest enemies are, they will all come out now, all will be screaming bloody murder over the “desecration of Ground Zero” by those evil Muslims.

While they are doing that, many more of us will be wondering what really happened on 9/11 now that we know for sure that what we were told was all a lie.

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157 Responses to "GORDON DUFF: The Ground Zero Mosque Lies"

  1. Dan  September 15, 2010 at 12:12 am


    Do people really buy this? At least there is no lack of creativity among the human race. Ignore the facts and make up your own fantasy scenarios. Several independent eye witnesses and wreckage from an airplane (Flight 77) recovered from the scene. Come on people! Whats next? Little green alien space monkeys popped out of the hijackers butt holes and flew the planes by mental telepathy?

    Oh wait!! That so makes complete sense!!! LOL NOT!!

    Would anyone find it calming if I gave you a copy of “The Catcher In The Rye?” Or would you freak out thinking the CIA is right outside your front door? Smoke another bowl . . or take your meds!!!

    • Gordon Duff  September 15, 2010 at 1:00 am

      Israelis aren’t green. They did it. Millions of us saw it. Did you see an Arab with a box cutter somewhere or planes and missiles like the rest of us?
      The only guys we caught were Mossad agents guiding the planes.
      We let them go.
      Guess why.

    • pj  October 3, 2010 at 8:30 am

      Tremendous article. America is at war with other countries, but also with itself, and has been for a long time. It is clear that the 911 myth does not rest on solid foundations, and that people are becoming aware of this. The UN might step in and provide an independent commission and Nuremberg style trials for the perps, but might not surrendering sovereignity to the UN be what these creeps were always after?

  2. Enrico Napolitano  August 30, 2010 at 3:55 am

    On 9/11 The World Trade Center was a INSIDE JOB Organised Orchestrated and Executed by george bush regime officials,
    Video Of Controlled Demolition Explosives into the WTC

  3. lynn  August 30, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Why doesn’t someone try to prove Dan wrong instead of insulting him because you are still drinking the Kool Aid, don’t have the intelligence to put up a better argument, and can’t handle the truth? Non of you have rebutted a single word he has said. Your bait and switch anger tactics only work on the sheep. Everyone is laughing at us dumb Americans. The world knows the truth but we are so brain dead.

    • Un-Sheepled  September 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm

      That would take an ability to think for one self.Something that is lost on most Americans, since they ingest far worse than Kool-aid…they guzzle a mind numbing substance called fluoride( prove me wrong?)
      AND they watch TV the real Weapon of Mass Deception ( any channel)
      Between those two the majority can only parrot the verbal vomit spewed upon them by a system that controls and pays the media the same way it controls the sock puppet politicians.
      This is not a ten year plan, this started LONG LONG time ago
      “The deliberate dumbing down of America” is a good starting point for those who can still read above third grade level.
      I have given up on the sheep , they love their Judas Goats.

  4. Kenneth T. Tellis  August 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    After the Korean Airles jet was fitted with cameras and other devices it was deliberately flown over the Sakalinsk islands of the U.S.S.R. the poor pilot could not control the plane as it was on a special auto-comtrol, so that when the Soviet fighyer pilot to;d him to land unable to do so. The Soviet pilot then fired two mossiles and brought down the Korean Airlines plance.

    All four airliners in the 9/11 attack has auto-controls fitted and were guided on to their targets, the pilots were therefore helpless and could not control their planes. From that point it was a CIA /Mossad job from start to finish. Those Arab men who took a flight into death never had a clue about what was really happening to the planes.

    • MAGHI85  August 21, 2010 at 5:32 am

      may be there were no Arab men. and this was all just a trick to make people hate Muslims so that Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine can by justified by the dehumanizing of the Muslim race in the eyes of Americans…???

  5. Cool Hand Luke  August 18, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    It’s exactly this kind of absolute drivel that convinces me the world will soon come to an end. There just aren’t enough intelligent, well meaning people in it to make the thing work. It’s hopeless. Frankly, I’m glad. I’m so sick of sharing the planet with brainless tools I see the coming apocalypse as a breath of fresh air. The Muslim martyrs can pump their 70 virgins day in and day out; the Jews and Christians can live in the afterlife with Jesus and God and all their long-lost loved ones. Me, I will be satisfied with a quiet dirt nap as long as I don’t have to suffer the protestations of Arab-sympathizing moronic assholes like Gordon Duff.

    • Gordon Duff  August 18, 2010 at 5:53 pm

      Perhaps you are writing us from the grave now. I have read more intelligent discourse from plantlife.
      You are simply a bad mannered internet troll and coward. Of course, what do we expect from someone who works in Kennebunkport.

    • Walter Burien  August 18, 2010 at 6:25 pm

      Cool Hand Luke:

      I never forgot the lesson taught by a social experiment run by Princeton College back in the 60’s using rats.

      They built a 1200 square ft maze and put 50 rats in it with all the food they could eat and water they needed.

      Well, rats are very social creatures having the same social traits of humans. The rats built up a social network where some brought the food to the others and some would collect the garbage to stash away in a designated location. Each rat had their own function and job roll and secured as home it’s own place within the maze. A happy little community was in place.

      Then, being that rats breed very fast within no time the population went from 50, to 300, to 800.. What happened then was in the over crowding the rats lost their job rolls, where fighting over food even though they had all they could eat. Sex rolls became confused with many male rats acting as female and females acting as males. All lost their little spaces picked out as home and started fighting for whatever space they could get as the trash piled up everywhere. Both male and female rats would eat many of the newborn.

      Now here is the important outcome of this experiment: The next generation that “exclusively” learned this way of life, the “entire” population stopped breeding and died off even though they had all the food and water they needed and no sickness to cause death. In plain language they all learned and were conditioned to: What’s the point where anything matters anymore. Confusion, stress, and madness by exposure took its toll.

      I keep asking myself: What point are we at along that same time-line, and are we intelligent and wise enough to change the end result?

      Cool Hand, sorry to hear that it looks like you are further down that path as the last generations of those rats were.

  6. Goldberg  August 17, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Conspiracy lunatics Ari? Is that so. I’ll believe your 9/11 fairy tale. All you have to do Ari is SHOW ME THE VIDEOS. Show me the videos of the hi-jackers at the airport check-in counter, at the security gate and boarding area. There are cameras all over EVERY airport. Are you telling me ARI that some kid steals a candy bar at a 7/11 and there are 5 videos of the incident, but on 9/11, somehow there are none?
    There are videos all right, but they are NOT arabs, they are ISRAELIS. That’s why we can’t see them.

    The TRUTH is 9/11 was a VERY SLOPPY MOSSAD operation that was done to get America to fight Israeli’s enemies in the middle-east. Also to stuff the pockets of the criminal arms dealers.

    For another example of their sloppy handiwork, checkout their Dubai hit where it took 15 of the little bubbalas to get one arab.


  7. Ari  August 17, 2010 at 4:23 am

    I wish “the Zionists” were as successful as everyone thinks on this site. We would have a lot less problems in Israel. You guys are a bunch of Anit-Semetic conspiracy lunatics.

    • Zee  August 17, 2010 at 7:55 am

      And you Ari Goldstein and your sadistic bretheren are a bunch of child killing, organ stealing land grabbing, Palestinian murdering, U.S. welfare receiving, warmongering, 911 doing sociopaths. Your country is suffering from some type of collective psychosis brought on by generations of inbreeding and cult-like brainwashing. A victim complex is beaten into you from birth and that’s why you see enemies everywhere that you must either control, dominate or destroy.

    • justanotherbod  August 17, 2010 at 1:16 pm

      Ari – that schtick just doesn’t fly any more – try another; maybe like loving your neighbour instead of uprooting his entire life, imprisoning his kids and dumping napalm on his wife. And you STILL wonder why the world hates Zionism? Oy vey!

      You see, so many people now realise that the majority of Palestinians are themselves Semites. Where does that leave the Knesset and your psychotic IDF?

    • C  August 17, 2010 at 1:16 pm

      Doens’t is suck Ari, that your lazy,tired, cliche and dishonest charges of “anti-semite!!!!!”, meant to shut down debate and criticism of Israel/zionist crimes is having less and less of an effect seemingly every day? jewsagainstzionism.org and .com Google-Bollyn 911 book. Nice try hasbara.

  8. GustheGreek  August 16, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    My opinion is that this whole thing goes very deep.
    My theory is that Obama was put into office by unseen hands, think about it what is the one racial group that the charge of anti-semitism is almost impossible to stick to?
    Black people.
    Therefore we have a half-white half-black president that as we have seen noone has labeled an antisemite while any other president would not have dared go down the road he has.
    Now lets look at 9/11, why did Bush not hold trials and convict the conspirators even though he had many years to do so?
    Zionists when talking amongst themselves believe the reason Obama wants to hold the terror trials in NYC is “to give a platform to the conspirators so they can publicly implicate Israel in 9/11” and then they add “even though Israel was not involved”.
    How are they so sure that the conspirators if tried will implicate Israel? do they know something we dont?
    It seems to me that Obama was put into office for a reason and his dangling of the 9/11 trials in front some people seems to be the key to this.
    I hope for their sake that they did not have anything to do with 9/11 because if the did they better pack their bags and get ready for another exodus.

  9. Martin  August 16, 2010 at 11:03 am

    You guys should really look into “Sayanim” and “Kol Nidre”.

    Read “The Nameless War” by Captain Archibald Ramsey

    If Israel got wiped off the map tomorrow, your country would still be going down the drain. Time to go full circle.

  10. Legendary Bill  August 16, 2010 at 10:16 am

    You’re right. No wreckage of a 767 at the Pentagon..And don’t forget: The 2nd plane hit the S. Tower at 9:03..at 9:04 WTC6 blew sky-high, obviously it was rigged to go..( and this was reported that morning in the NY media, along with “secondary explosions” in the towers and ” excplosions in the sub-basements “..This was ALL reported that day in the NY local media..Thus today, with all of this and more being washed out of their minds, most people know LESS about 9-11 than they knew on 9-11.

  11. Rich  August 16, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Gordon you are guilty of being misleading. The mosque, community center, etc. is about a block and a half from ground zero. Some of the wreckage from the World Trade Towers fell on the buildings on this site.

    That said, while I feel that the builders of the mosque are displaying extreme insensitivity and inviting not only controversy and possible violence, they have every right to build their facility where and as they wish, so long as they do not violate existing building codes.

    • Gordon Duff  August 16, 2010 at 8:45 am

      Manhattan is 500 meters wide down there. If it weren’t for dumping garbage off the Bowery, it would be smaller. I can do historical walking tours of New York. (or London, Rome, Paris, Vienna, Prague etc.) Go there. You will see what I mean.
      There is another issue of course. Nobody is demanding that we remove every synagogue and church from the area yet we arrested Mossad agents and nobody on earth (intelligent life and brighter house pets) buys in on NORAD taking the day off.

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