By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

How can a nation like the United States be duped into two wars and total bankruptcy?  It would be one thing if the “truth” about 9/11 was internet conspiracy theory.  This isn’t the case.  It was all right there in everyone’s living room.  They fooled us once and then fooled us again and again.  Yes, America has some tail to kick but this time, maybe we should make sure our boot goes up the right rear end for a change.

The real hole in the Pentagon, before construction equipment enlarged it was so small a man had to duck his head to enter.  For 9 years, this photograph was captioned “Second Floor.”  This photograph has a firefighter in the foreground and, unless gravity was suspended on 9/11, he is standing on the Pentagon’s lawn.  Listen to CNN describe a crash site with no aircraft parts of any kind, seats, bodies, wings, engines, tail section….none of it.  Can it be this simple?

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The CNN reporter at the Pentagon immediately after the “crash” found no aircraft debris.   After closing off the site, the next morning, huge pieces of plane were hauled away, pieces that weren’t in any of the photographs on 9/11.  I hate it when media stooges scripted by the real terrorists don’t check the time carefully enough.

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Watch a BBC reporter talk about a building collapsing that was still standing, actually with very little damage, right behind her.  Yes, Americans are that easy to lie to.

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Watch Larry Silverstein tell network news that WTC 7, the same virtually undamaged building was “pulled” by firefighters.  Since making this statement, no single individual, firefighter, 9/11 Commission member or anyone else has backed up this wild claim.  Need we mention that setting demolition charges alone would require weeks?

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Here, Dan Rather on CBS describes the collapse of Building 7 as “like films of controlled demolition we have seen, buildings deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite….”

Some Americans are burning Korans to celebrate 9/11.  Some are deeply disturbed about an Islamic community center being built nearby.  If I might suggest, perhaps 9/11 might be better served as “hallowed ground” if it were a place of execution.  A great nation could transplant it’s mightiest oak to the site.  That hallowed oak and a few lengths of hemp used with intelligence and consideration on our enemies at home and abroad would best honor our dead.

Just a thought….

There is currently no conclusive forensic evidence that the airliners indicated nor the hijackers accused were ever involved in 9/11 in any way.

Perhaps worst of all, Fox News itself, released the following story indicating that 60 Israeli’s were arrested after 9/11, some active duty military who had advance knowledge of 9/11.  Later, the number exceeded 200, tied to espionage and suspected terrorism.  Yes, the term “terrorism” is used.  All investigations were eventually quashed.  You can come to your own conclusions as to what is and isn’t being said.

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Yes, Americans are that dumb.  You wonder why our banks are empty?

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  1. mikey  October 1, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    There are aerial views of this “punchout hole” here –
    And more analysis of this is here –
    The courtyard between A Ring & B ring and between B ring & C ring have a lower roof where this purported “missile” (certainly not a plane) flew under those roofs only to “punch out” in the courtyard between C ring and D ring where there is n o roof at all but the courtyard is a full 5 stories high. Count the floors in each courtyard and see this for yourself. Missile? Shaped charge? Who knows. But this hole is definitely in the inner C ring courtyard.

  2. Chris  September 29, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    I am not sure what the agenda is here but given the pictures that I have seen of the Pentagon, the top picture is definitely not of the outer ring where the plane was supposed to have hit and it is fairly easy to prove…. All the pictures that I have seen of the pentagon in this area have a row of windows at the level that the plane enters the building. Though there appears to be a no parking sign in the picture above apparently in an attempt to throw the viewer off, there are clearly no windows at the point of entry as there should be…. Any comments ….?

  3. Ron  September 11, 2010 at 9:33 am

    If there is one thing that makes me sad it is how easily the American people can be
    fooled by the MSM and our own government. The survivors of the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty tried to tell this great nation what was really going on, and what did we get for it? A slap in the face and I lost my family because I opened my mouth about what I saw. Many others who survived have had similiar situations happen to them. I know they are hoping we all die off and that the Liberty story will die with it. Tell you what, I think we have become a thorn in the side, and the story will NEVER go away.

    A survivor

  4. gene kalmes  September 10, 2010 at 4:07 am


    watch and listen to the words being recited in the classroom…You remember, George was reading a story about a scapegoat…while the teacher had her pupils recite Kite hit steel plane…what a coincidence…almost weird even…

    folks, think about it…the Solomon brothers building (building 7) being broadcast as having fallen 20 minutes before it fell…

    If you ask me…one powerful entity was being blackmailed by another powerful entity and the blackmailees decided to leave blatant clues for we the dumb people to figure out…get angry…and storm the Bastille…

    And just as soon as The Kardashians is over…count me in!

  5. gene kalmes  September 10, 2010 at 3:45 am

    Cheney had to admit they (Norad) was running drills of this very scenario that morning…That’s like a convention of lifeguards at the hotel swimming pool failing to save a drowning child…

    My favorite clip is Dan Rather interviewing the FEMA worker who said they got there Monday night and were ready to swing into action Tuesday morning…with clairvoyant guardians like that I’m surprised terrorism succeeds at all…

    Face it…911 was designed to choose sides for a new civil war…rather than north vs south…it’s smart people vs dumb people…

    Gordon you and I and a couple others are really outnumbered…

  6. Truth Seeker  September 9, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    911 was a CIA and Mossad Operation, but what does Intelligence agencies do?

    They create a false since of reality to push forth a solution that that would not be popular without an incident or False Flag operation. Problem, Reaction, Solution…

    Intelligence agencies do the bidding for the Elite or “The Banks & Corporations”! The inside job is about business and money. They see themselves “The Banks & Corporations” as above everyone else and if the end justifies the means, then their is no authority higher than theirs.

    The real question is… who’s above “The Banks & Corporations”? I can tell you who it is not and who it is likely.

    Always follow the money, power and greed…

    1) Any one of color.
    2) Likely all men
    3) They have been in positions of power for a very long time. (Families)
    4) They have unlimited funds at their disposal. (Ties to the banking infrastructure)
    5) They consider themselves to be Chosen by God or by Divine Rite.
    6) They control the western world from behind the scenes.
    7) They cannot be questioned, are out of public view and of European Decent.

  7. ben  September 5, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Gordon, I agree with practically everything you write, so if I lack common sense, we’re both in trouble. 😉 Look, help me understand, are you saying the picture of the hole you have at the top of this article is taken from the vantage point of a photographer standing inside the wrecked interior of the outer ring?

  8. Gordon Duff  September 5, 2010 at 12:02 am

    The magic photographer wasn’t on the lawn, he was standing in the burning building amid the wreckage…
    Oh, you missed it?
    God, Americans are easy to con.
    Why the buy in? It doesn’t take much to sell a lie and convince a few to leave their common sense at the door.
    America isn’t surving this.

  9. ben  September 4, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    You are right and Gordon is mistaken. That is the inner ring made of block masonry and not the outer ring which is coated in reinforced concrete. I want to give Gordon the benefit of the doubt and that he just mistaken. My only guess as to why he is mistaken is that maybe he believes that a jet or missile striking the pentagon couldn’t penetrate through to the inner rings. Maybe though the inner ring hole was a shape charge. Who knows, but Gordon has this one wrong. There is no lawn here, it is inner ring. In all of the pictures of this hole there is that “no parking sign”

  10. ba  September 4, 2010 at 9:26 am

    I have to say God bless the enlightened folks who are not afraid to stand up for Truth and Justice. Thank you for being one of them, and all those who will uphold the true “Flag of Humanity”.
    I will recommend the Shaikh Imran Hosein’s website. It is a dot org. I personally am open minded to learning more about the conflicts in the world and I pray for peace, but that will only come when the people establish righteousness in their own selves, and their homes. I remind myself, first, then others to fear God Almighty, not man, and establish the 10 Commandments for the good of their own selves. Change can and will come. God Willing.

  11. ProudPrimate  September 3, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    You have been generous thus far with your time, so I will ask one more question.

    I see on your Terms and Privacy Policy page, that “If your are a registered VeteransToday.com member, you may review, correct, update or change personal information you have submitted at any time. Here’s how to change your information:
    Click the Login link on the VeteransToday.com homepage (upper left corner).
    You’ll be taken to the login page. Enter your password.”

    I have not been able to find anywhere to register. If I had the password I could get past the WordPress login page and see the videos at the start of this conversation.

    Do I have to be a veteran to join?

  12. JZ  September 3, 2010 at 3:57 am

    I have to say, my outlook concerning your website has changed some, I kinda look at you out of the side of my neck a little now, there are many photos out there of the “exit hole” from different points of view, I don’t know where it came from but that hole you’re showing up there is not the entrance, if you can prove me wrong then I’m very excited, otherwise gimme a break. Do you have a 9/11 agenda?


    By the way, yes, 9/11 was an inside job.

  13. OS  September 3, 2010 at 2:59 am

    It’s also strange these so call planes had few passengers for the capacity. Pentagon – Boeing 757-200, capacity 238 – only 64 passengers? PA – Boeing 757-200, capacity 238 – only 44 passengers. What’s wrong with this picture, I have made over 300 flights in the last 30 years “near empty aircraft”? Was weight an issue?

    See year 2001 for details:

  14. Gordon Duff  September 2, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Thinking about this for a second…we are saying a 757, not only flew to the Pentagon…something impossible in itself but through the entire building….not the engines, mind you but the thin aluminum body and a few plastic parts….through 180 layers of concrete and out the other side.
    Reminds me of a story: Back in 1973, I was at Wurtsmith AFB. Hell, I will simply write about it.

  15. Gordon Duff  September 2, 2010 at 8:48 am

    The “exit hole” story is just that, a conspiracy theory. There was only one hole in the pentagon which was hit by only one object on the ground floor which never penetrated anything. You are repeating a silly cover story….not unlike the plane parts that were strewn across the lawn the next day….the same lawn that was empty and clean the day before.
    It takes very little effort to totally dupe Americans.

  16. JZ  September 2, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Mr.Duff, I have to say, I’ve dug into that particular hole (top of the page) in the Pentagon in the past and that is an exit hole in the “rear” of the Pentagon, it does look like a missile exit, but as far as I know that is not what was on the front of the Pentagon. Please don’t throw stuff out there that people can blow off so easily.


  17. Gordon Duff  August 31, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Only other possibility is a browser problem. Mozilla may be best followed by Chrome.

  18. ProudPrimate  August 31, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Thanks for your reply. I was fascinated by your interview with Peter B a week or so ago. I have several video players installed (RealPlayer, WindowsMedia, QuickTime, VLC Media Player, iTunes, and some others I can’t think of) all of which work well. I have noticed, thoughm, that I am unable to install Service Pack I, hence also the latest Java is unreachable.

    From your reply, I’m thinking that may be the issue. I’m reinstalling Windows within the month in hopes of righting this condition. I’ll check back if successful. Thanks again.

  19. Gordon Duff  August 31, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Mr. Primate:
    These are films, not photographs. You may not have a video player installed. There are many quality free players available at http://www.download.com.

  20. ProudPrimate  August 30, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Is there no way to see these photos at http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=mac&c=102384 other than to join WordPress? I already have a website I have neglected for lack of time for three or four years. Isn’t there some other way to see them? It asks me for login, and WordPress looks like a lot of commitment to join, not to mention a lot of effort.

  21. jon dee  August 30, 2010 at 11:53 am

    thanks for bringing this evidence of an INSIDE JOB to our Veterans (we’re going to need them on our side after the next False Flag).
    Perhaps readers should also check out http://www.thenewalexandrialibrary.com/911truth.html
    and see the videos of firemen reporting explosions inside the building, the “magic passport”, the fact that 6 out of 10 of the 9/11 commissioners did not trust what they were being told, why the FBI does show 9/11 as one of Bin Laden’s crimes and the “coincidence surrounding the murder or John O’Neill.

  22. Louise  August 28, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Dick Cheney was in control of NORAD when 9/11 happened. They were doing a simulated training exercise which is why they did not think the highjacking that hit the twins towers were real. You now how on this sight Gordon Duff said that the USA has the ability over ride the planes control software in the case of a high jacking well it is likely that NORAD would be the one to have this capability. So Dick Cheney ran the exercise and someone else involved in the exercise made the planes fly into the buildings by over taking the controls on the plane.

    This cuts it down to two people. Silverstein who owns the lease on the twin towers could have organised for someone he knows to put the nano thermite in the twin towers. This makes it a total of four people involved.

  23. ProudPrimate  August 28, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    “but who allowed it? Congress people.”

    As true as that is superficially, I have to say, it’s an oversimplification. There’s a fellow named Four Arrows (a Native American), whose Anglo name is Donald Trent Jacobs, who wrote a book, with James Fetzer, called “American Assassination: The Strange Death Of Senator Paul Wellstone”. Four Arrows told Kevin Barrett in an interview on NoLiesRadio how a friend of his (he is, or was, a professor at Arizona State) who is also close friends with Barbara Boxer told him how Boxer once asked her, “do you know a guy named Four Arrows?’, and saying yes she did, Boxer said, “Well, he may be closer to the truth than he realizes.” As the conversation went on, she let on that everybody in the Congress knew and understood that the death of Wellstone was a clear warning to them that there were lines they should not cross.

    The cancer in our society is deep and it is virulent and aggressive in its metastasis. In my view, only a huge groundswell of the population, in scope like to or greater than the resistance of my day, ie., the sixties, can ever make a dent in it. This is what Gordon Duff is saying: the anti-war movement has let the people down, by not fulfilling their proper role.

    “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars/But in ourselves, that we are underlings.”

    Like a virus in a computer, the longer it has to work its way down into the files and registry, the harder it is to root out. And they’ve had, well, since 1947.

  24. Gordon Duff  August 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Welcome aboard. I hope journalism works out well for you. Friends tell me your old job was as a Mossad officer in Cyprus. I have many good friends, not only in Cyprus but Amman also. If you have any problems there, please contact us or your friends in Tel Aviv.
    Do catch lunch at the Four Seasons. I always enjoy that.

  25. zedan elkenawy  August 27, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    iam journalist from egypt now iam in jordan when 11 spt was taken in u s a the democratic free state in all over the world i was 20 years i have impact that musleum is the source of terrorist in all countries because of islam ideo9logy

  26. Dennis  August 27, 2010 at 7:17 am

    Had a 757 actually hit the pentagon in flight configuration, as alleged, the engines would have ploughed twin furrows in the lawn. The lawn was in pristine condition. Also, its nose would have struck the second floor not the ground floor.

  27. JamesLaffrey  August 27, 2010 at 6:36 am

    @ little guy:

    Agreed! Well done. Great quotes.

    Although the truth of the Rothschilds’ criminal supremacy has been known for a long time, as you rightly say, many web writers and websites try to distract and confuse our fellow Americans (and other people of the world).

    They direct people to vent their anger at governments, or corporations, or groups that are mere fronts and buffers for the Rothschilds, such as CFR, Bildergerg, Trilateral, and the Rockefellers.

    Of course, all of those leaders in governments, corporations, and front groups are guilty. But if we don’t pull out the root, the weed will always grow back.

    Also, let’s notice what the many web writers and websites don’t do: They don’t offer any sensible, practical solution. That’s because they don’t want to.

    A practical, wise, nonviolent solution exists.
    Please click on my name.

    By the way, Gordon Duff is doing a great job bringing people 95% of the way to the top.

  28. hsx  August 26, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    The first photograph, showing the firefighter in front of a hole in the wall is NOT the ENTRY hole, but the EXIT hole in second or third ring. Sorry. Nevertheless the ENTRY hole was also too small for a 757, especially the fact that its engines didn’t make holes in the wall. PilotsFor911Truth claims to have evidence the 757 flew over the Pentagon.

  29. neptune  August 26, 2010 at 12:08 am


    It says here that “Aircraft debris created this exit hole in the outer wall of the building’s C Ring.” Whether you believe an aircraft created that or not, the hole pictured is deep inside the Pentagon, not on the outside. Better research needed here!

  30. Gordon Duff  August 25, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Three possibilities…typo…or…bad spellcheck on wordpress…(it has to be run over and over) or simply dropped letters..also.
    Probable is typo.

  31. John Dwyer  August 25, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    You write above: “Perhaps worst of all, Fox News itself, released the following story indicating that 60 Israeli’s were arrested after 9/11, some active duty military who had advance knowledge of 9/11. Later, the numer exceeded 200, tied to espionage and suspected terrorism. Yes, the term “terrorism” is used. All investigations were eventually quashed. You can come to your own conclusions as to what is and isn’t being said.”

    Please correct the misspelled word “number” and the word “Israeli’s”.

  32. OS  August 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    The Political Influence of the British-Israel Movement in the Nineteenth Century.


  33. Gordon Duff  August 25, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Photos of real plane wreckage…similar plane…nearly same weight, mass and performance: http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=mac&c=102384

  34. chris  August 25, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    That wreckage (pentagon) looks like the aftermath of the Murro building in OK City. I agree with Gordon. After hearing the experts, pilots and aero-engineers, saying it is impossible to do these maneuvers. As far as the eyewitnesses, I believe they were planted and scripted like the whole day was.

  35. ben  August 25, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Paul is right. This looks like the engine punch out of the inner C ring which is easily identifiable because it is bare brick instead of the exterior ring which is reinforced concrete. This picture is used by debunkers to discredit Truthers.

  36. Gordon Duff  August 25, 2010 at 9:26 am

    The issue is that this was the only hole when CNN arrived. I have seen photos of this hole..”photoshopped” to look like a hole on the second floor…”photoshopped” to look bigger with the fireman gone or only half as big.
    There was no other hole..not until equipment arrived.
    When you hear the broadcast from CNN telling you there was NO wreckage and no place a plane had hit..this was why. They “built” the crash scene afterwards then went after anyone with original photos claiming they real damage was something else.
    This was the only hole…..this is the point.

  37. Paul Welton  August 25, 2010 at 4:54 am

    The picture that is first off shown as the hole in the outside of the Pentagon is actually the “Unexplained” hole on the inside of the E Ring. I don’t mean to be a stickler but this is the crap that the Debunkers love to use.

  38. OS  August 25, 2010 at 12:36 am

    I curious if anyone has crunched the numbers, that’s all.

  39. OS  August 25, 2010 at 12:15 am

    La recherche, le Mouvement de britannique-Israël

  40. OS  August 24, 2010 at 10:01 pm


    Some history, just a few paragraphs for some enlighten. One of many skilled trades.

  41. OS  August 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm


  42. OS  August 24, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Some families have long history in US, I hope you read my comment regarding the differences between British and French cultures, the opposing beliefs create a “Stand off”. I have provided a source for information, one was discarded, and other benefited. Old cultural tactic, the other would be willing to provide some enlighten. I work all over the world, and already know.

  43. Brian  August 24, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    One more thing about the Pentagon attack, I received an email today from the insightful Michael Rivero from the very notable whatreallyhappened.com. His Dancing Israeli web page is perhaps the most referred to web page on the subject.

    He still believes an American airlines passenger plane struck the Pentagon and he provided several reasons. I don’t think he will mind if I show one of them. Keep in mind Michael Rivero is a thorough researcher and one of the top 911 investigators and is well respected in the 911 community. People can mention technical theories but how about this from Michael Rivero:

    Hundreds of witnesses saw the aircraft flying towards the Pentagon. Nobody saw it flying away. Again, if it did not hit the Pentagon, where did it go?

  44. OS  August 24, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    This calculation can be used when analyzing video data and determining k-cker instance, should only be observed one time.

  45. OS  August 24, 2010 at 4:31 pm


    You already know this, but here’s a question?

    There are many charge configurations for d-molitions; two very basic are c-tting and k-cker charges, with calculations to achieve each affect. No further discussion, the efficiency is in minimal material usage. The p-ncake affect is created when upper forces overcome the structural integrity of each floor, and implies the thumbprint or signature is located within plus or minus several floors. This calculation helps determine where to locate structural failures, even in debris piles. Otherwise could be looking for the “Needle in the hay stake”.

    Thumbprints and signatures are not difficult to locate, when calculations are performed. But that’s a different story.

  46. Paul Welton  August 24, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Gordon, your first photo is misleading, I don’t know if you or someone else mistakenly put in the wrong photo but the one shown is the unexplained hole inside the E Ring. There is at least one photo from outside the Pentagon showing the hole and it is about 30′ in diameter. Just so you know I’m hard core into the truth movement and I only mention this because this it the types of errors that the debunkers crawl all over.

  47. MAXFISH  August 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    pentagon hit from a nuke stolen by the Isrealis, when they sunk the kursk, fired the missile at the pentagon from the Israeli sub of the coast of us, did not dertonate4 .hauled away under blue tarp. all “evidence of a plane crash was added in as a coverup.skull and bones signed up for the Muslim hijack scenario but were double crossed by the Zionist.

  48. little guy  August 24, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    The Banksters are the only ones we need to focus on…we can go after the others once the Banksters are eliminated and each country has it’s own sovereign money supply. But, yes, you are correct…the City of London is the seat of the Illuminati and, therefore, the seat of the New World Order.

    Sir Evelyn de Rothschild – British Bankster (his wife, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, has appeared with Sarah Palin at several Tea Party events)

    Sir Jacob de Rothschild – British Bankster

    Nathan Rothschild – British Bankster (son of Jacob)

    ALL efforts should be directed, above all else, at neutralizing the Jewish Banksters first…hopefully we can get back the Trillions of $$$ in gold that these @ssholes have looted from our treasuries!

  49. little guy  August 24, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Answers to all your questions…



  50. Ken A  August 24, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Lots of good info in this thread.

    The best “proof” is logic, right. Does a land want to be turned into a moonscape from Omaha, in 20 minutes? This precludes any excuse for war from the US.

    One of the original: (2004)


    This, among others, launched a large truth following (lots of egos). But it sagged. Seems to be coming back with more sophistication, such as here, at VT.

    On the best Pentagon article, good links, maps: (2006)


  51. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 11:46 am

    I took a rare glimpse at the mainstream media last night and was amazed that they are openly mentioning the jews being behind 911, even though in a way meant to ridicule the concept.

    I believe if there were an honest poll done, it would show almost no Americans believe in the official 911 story and majority believe jewish interests are behind it.

    It’s getting almost getting too hot to handle and jewish totalitarian control of the the USA is their only hope.

    Even the body language and expressions on the faces of the “celebrities” reveal they don’t believe mainstream 911 either and know most people don’t/won’t. They are pathetic!


  52. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Steve will be waiting for you as long as his Mickey Mouse Fan Club meeting gets out on time!

  53. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Steve, you need to spend more time on your Mickey Mouse Fan Club forum or drink more beer and memorize some sports scores.
    Assuming you are sincere, this is an adult site where most of the people participating have spent countless hours of research, seeking the truth.

    You are obviously not in a position to distinguish truth from B.S.


  54. Brian  August 24, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Gordon wrote this:

    1. no bodies, luggage or plane wreckage on site until day 2

    I have not spent a lot of time researching the Pentagon crash but if this is true then we have a very poorly planned false flag. Waiting until the next day to put out false evidence for an extremely high profile event doesn’t sound like a good plan.

  55. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Of course he can’t. Just more DEFAMATION, one of their biggest weapons which appeals to the ignorant.


  56. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Nice review Gray!

  57. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:54 am

    You are right and Joe Vialls explained that very clearly in 2003 , 2004? . The slaughter of USA military in Iraq after Israel’s attack on Iran (and/or Israel’s false flag nuke in the USA)will be the justification for the US to nuke Iran into the stone age, which is Irael’s goal.


  58. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:48 am

    George Orwell (Eric Blair), said “SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN TIMES OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT”. The war has begun and it is happening here on this site.

    Talk is cheap but will precede intelligent action. The truth has to be established first.


  59. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Amen Brother!

  60. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Most American Christians do not believe the jewish B.S. about jews being God’s chosen ones. That is all zionist TV mind programming. Turn off the zionist mass media including their “news”papers, TV and Foolywood movies if you would like to return to reality.


  61. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:31 am

    Steve, I wonder how you wandered on to this site in the first place? Most read this site because they don’t believe the mainstream media in the first place.

    The fact is that the US government and it’s military have been hijacked by a foreign government and the USA military is being used like an unpaid mercenary force for illegal wars of aggression for that foreign government.


  62. Michael J Volz  August 24, 2010 at 10:15 am

    If there is anything funny about this it is their screw
    ups which any county prosecutor or judge in any county in any state could seize on to invoke a grand jury investigation but none do because they are all stupid, criminal or cowards who don’t really care about the law.

    The grunts, technicians who took care of the demolitions were way more competent in their craft than their bosses!


  63. EyesWideOpen  August 24, 2010 at 9:31 am

    It’s refreshing to see there are so many people who “get it”– except maybe Steve. This was a great article and there are some really good comments here. I want to point out something I haven’t seen written about before regarding 9/11 and maybe it will cause some people who still don’t get it or refuse to examine the mountains of evidence pointing to 9/11 being an inside job to rethink their beliefs in the official story coming from our corporate government and their mouthpiece media.

    Since there are so many vets here who I assume would understand attack strategies I thought this would be the place to bring this up.

    While the events of 9/11 were in progress, remember how we were all waiting for the fighter jets that protect America to show up any second to handle the situation? Remember how we all expected that to happen, how it was just second nature to expect our military jets to come swooping in any second, and then remember that feeling of total incredulity when they never appeared as America was under attack? I know we were all waiting for them to take care of the situation, especially when the Pentagon was hit, the PENTAGON which some alleged hijacked plane had to fly through the most “protected airspace” in the world in order to hit it and we all couldn’t figure out how that could have happened and why there were no fighter jets protecting the nation’s capitol.

    Why did we, as a nation, expect to see the fighter jets flying up and handling the situation? Because it is standard operating procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off course or radio contact with it is lost or its transponder is turned off. Between January 2001 and September 2001, interceptors were scrambled 67 times. In the year 2000 jets were scrambled 129 times. They have never once in history not been scrambled. Besides, we just know our nation is protected and we just know that our military has these amazing jets capable of doing amazing things and we just know their number one priority is protecting our country and we just know that our military is well-trained and rabid about defense.

    Over the course of America’s history, our military might and our military technology has been rightfully feared, revered and respected.

    We all know the official story blames these foreigners who supposedly planned the whole thing from their hideouts in some remote caves in Afghanistan. Pretend YOU are Osama bin Laden, an apparently super-intelligent guy who they say was the main planner of this amazing, complicated and dramatic attack on American soil. (Now they have changed the main culprit to KSM, but for my point it doesn’t matter.)

    Think in terms of military strategy. Here you are planning this attack on the USA, something that hasn’t been done since Pearl Harbor. In the years since Pearl Harbor, you would have to assume America has honed her defense skills and strategies to prevent it from ever happening again. You would absolutely have to know about the SOP regarding America’s domestic defense systems and the scrambling of fighter jets. You would have to be aware of the protected airspace surrounding DC. You would have to know about airport security, about NORAD, about our intelligence systems of which I think there were 16 separate agencies at the time. There is no way you could plan such an elaborate attack without knowing all these critical things down to the finest detail, is there?

    You plan to send in these 19 ragtag terrorists, many who barely spoke a word of English to outfox and overpower the entire US military and intelligence apparatus as well as the security systems of several airports, and then hijack 4 airplanes by overpowering all the flight crews with box-cutters including a pilot who not only was a combat vet, but also held multiple black belts in martial arts. Then your boys would somehow perform expert aerial maneuvers and fly these hijacked jets into not-easy-to-hit buildings, including flying one into the Pentagon, which not only was reputed to have its own defense system as in missiles, but which lies inside the most protected territory in the world. And nothing, not one little thing can go wrong in order for your plan to work! If the airport security personnel were doing their jobs and just one of these 19 Arabs got caught or even detained, or one missed his flight, or one of the planes got really delayed, or the weather turned bad, the whole mission would be compromised.

    So why would anyone, especially one as intelligent as Osama bin Laden, plan something so intricate, so risky and actually so ridiculously impossible? (I keep saying how intelligent bin Laden was because from what the government says he did, the guy’s pure genius with Superhero qualities!) Why on earth would anyone think they could plan something this risky and ridiculous and not expect complete failure at just about every stage?

    First, why would he think that airport security wouldn’t somehow detain even one of his terrorists? Okay, let’s say that airport security at every port had one of bin Laden’s guys working security allowing the bad guys to get through.

    But then he’d have to count on each one being able to successfully hijack not just one, but FOUR separate airplanes. Then he’d have to count on each one of his ragtag men to be able to accurately maneuver those planes that none had ever flown before and accurately hit their targets, then hope that somehow hitting 2 buildings in NYC would miraculously cause 3 to collapse. Then, despite the reputation of the US military, and despite the SOP for scrambling jets, and despite the fact that some of these hijacked airplanes would be flying around for almost two hours, he’d have to count on no military jets being scrambled despite the fact it had never happened before ever in history! The average time for a fighter jet to be scrambled to intercept an errant airplane is only 10 minutes! Then he’d have to count on the Pentagon not launching a missile to shoot down the hijacked plane before it could slam into the building.

    Why would anyone plan such an event knowing how impossible it would all be? Even if a lunatic planned it that would not make the impossible possible. It was an impossible thing. Think about that. He would have to rely on sheer luck, sheer chance, and just cross his fingers and hope for the best. He would have to hope for some really deep institutional failings deep within the US government, and the US military, and the US intelligence system, and why on earth would someone who had such a brilliant mind even dream of such a stupid (non)strategy? Why would he expect hundreds of Americans to have such an unrealistic amount of incompetence especially all in that one day during the most critical times in order for his plan to succeed? Then, after all was said and done, he would plan it out so there would not even be enough evidence to convict him in a court of law– (he’s not even wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks because according to the FBI “there’s no evidence showing he was behind it.”) What was even more incredible is that at least 7 of the 19 “hijackers” were found to be alive and well after crashing those planes. All of them, invincible and amazing, just like Superheroes! What an amazing feat, and to somehow pull it all off despite America’s tight defense protocol and feared, revered, and amazingly competent defense systems says a lot about Osama bin Laden and his 19 religiously fanatical nutcase terrorists. It also says a lot about how totally and ridiculously inept and incompetent Americans allegedly are. Whatever.

    One more thing to ponder is this: why on earth would Osama bin Laden want to attack the mightiest military machine on the planet, knowing full well that the payback for such an attack would devastate all of Islam and be a death sentence to Muslims worldwide? Why would he want to bring such horror and destruction upon his people? What benefit would OBL and his terrorist team reap from this venture? If you honestly look at it, who really benefitted? Did the Muslim people benefit, even a little? Or did the corporations, the military industrial complex, the banks, and the neocons benefit? Bush and Company said that we were attacked because they hated us and hated our “freedoms.” Well, think about it– if they “hated us for our freedoms”, what would the 9/11 events do to destroy or even harm these freedoms? Nothing. However, it was our own government that immediately started dismantling and eviscerating our Constitution and Bill of Rights, starting with the pre-written 11,000+ page US Patriot Act. Our elected servants were threatened with martial law if they didn’t sign it immediately. It is not the Muslims, but our own government who has been steadily taking our freedoms away from us ever since 9/11 by using 9/11 as an excuse, and it is getting worse and worse as the days go by. So-called enemies like OBL, a known CIA operative, or any America-hating terrorist could only dream of doing to the US what our own government has done to us and to our American way of life. This was not a Muslim “terrorist” attack at all, but it was terrorists who did this to us. Unfortunately, these terrorists are homegrown and still in power in our increasingly oppressive police state that once was really the land of the free, home of the brave. We have become the land of the oppressed and dumbed-down, and the home of a lot of apathetic sheeple. (except for the people on this site!)

    Honestly looking at 9/11 from every angle, looking at the mountains and mountains of irrefutable evidence proving it was an inside job and then doing the research to see that there’s still not one shred of evidence to even remotely show that the official story is true, anyone with half a brain should be able to wake up and see what the hell really happened and why it really happened. It is only when the majority of Americans wake up to see the truth about 9/11 that we’ll be able to save our country from the abyss we are falling into.

  64. Ross  August 24, 2010 at 6:36 am

    Would you like to put your house on it Steve? We have the laws of physics being contravened in all WTC buildings plus voluminious scientific,witness accounts, scientific evidence of military grade nano-thermite,molten metal that flows like lava, media announcing the event before it happens,cell phones operating at impossible heights,sham investigations,NIST admitting flawed inadaquate reports,people with pre-knowledge making money on the share market, Larry Silverstein wanting to pull WTC 7 and checking the insurance will be be valid on that very day,George Bush hiding in a kindy acting very suspiciously.This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of incriminating evidence.

    I’d suggest you put your brain in gear before you shoot your mouth off or get off the payroll of the neo-cons.

  65. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 5:48 am


    Christians and Muslims … Worst and Best
    To my Christian friends: would you agree with this statement?

    Christianity was not intended to create a chosen people, fostering exclusive claims for themselves, while looking down upon the rest of humanity like a sea of untouchables or regarding the animate and inanimate worlds around them as fields readied for wanton exploitation. Wherever Christians find themselves, they are called upon to be actively and positively engaged as vanguards of mercy, welfare, and well-being.

    (More after the jump…)
    I wish I had written these words, but I didn’t, and in fact, they weren’t written about Christianity by a Christian. They were written about Islam by a Muslim.

    Here’s the original quote:

    Islam was not intended to create a chosen people, fostering exclusive claims for themselves, while looking down upon the rest of humanity like a sea of untouchables or regarding the animate and inanimate worlds around them as fields readied for wanton exploitation. Wherever Muslims find themselves, they are called upon to be actively and positively engaged as vanguards of mercy, welfare, and well-being.

    My Muslim companion in the fast, Eboo Patel, wrote me an encouraging note the other day, and he sent a link to download this article by Dr. Umar Abd-Allah, American Islam’s most senior scholar, which I encourage you to read in its entirety:

    Here’s what tends to happen when Christians talk about Muslims or Muslims talk about Christians behind each others’ backs. We all tend to compare “our” best to “their” worst. (As I wrote in AGO, Christians of one denomination tend to do the same regarding other denominations.)

    I ask myself how I would feel if a Muslim person showed me a clip of someone shouting at a town hall meeting, calling President Obama a fascist, etc., etc., saying, “God will judge you!” and then said, “This is what Christianity is.”

  66. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 5:36 am



    ( Russell stated that under scientific tyranny, “Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, )

    The Age of Treason: 1958 Book Exposes Chemical Attack on Humanity
    Old-Thinker News | August 19, 2010
    By Daniel Taylor

    Though Dr. Clymer may be surrounded with controversy, his 1958 book Your Health and Sanity in the Age of Treason exposes toxic food additives and fluoride with documentation – the majority of which are mainstream scientific studies – that can be verified many times over. What makes this book unique is the fact that Dr. Clymer was one of the first to point out that statements by the elite indicated that these toxins were to be deliberately released “…for the mental deterioration and moral debasement of the mass…”

    The book is appropriately subtitled; “Food and Liquids Used as a Medium in Deliberately and Carefully Planned Methods Developed by the Vicious Element of Humanity, for the Mental Deterioration and Moral Debasement of the Mass, as a Means Toward Their Enslavement.”

    Dr. Clymer introduces readers with a stark warning for the future, writing, “Imagine yourself if you can, becoming conscious that you are gradually losing your manhood; that your mind is rapidly deteriorating so that you are no longer capable of thinking clearly; unable to plan your future actions. Your resistance is becoming so weakened that you are no longer master of yourself. In short, you are rapidly developing into a moron, a robot, a zombie, readily subject to the dictates of others…”

    Bertrand Russell’s 1953 book The Impact of Science on Society is cited by Clymer as one example of the elite’s desire to dominate the masses. Russell stated that under scientific tyranny, “Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.”

  67. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 5:27 am

    “Radical” Christians or “Fanatical Fundamentalists” in America – A German View
    Pandora (German TV) Feb 08, 2010

    German TV, ADR’s program, Panorama, aired in 2007 is a must see documentary (just 9 minutes) that talks about the “radical Christians” in America who helped George Bush become President. According to Panorama there are millions of “fundamental fanatics” in America. What this program is revealing are the traits of “Judeo-Christians” (sometimes known as Christian Zionists or dispensationalists). The piece is in German but has English subtitles. See for yourself at” http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x38paw_christian-missionaries-in-iraq-pano

  68. Ross  August 24, 2010 at 5:02 am

    K Reichtstein,We either win this or these lunatics will take us on the path to destruction.In other words,if we are not optimistic we may as well end it all now.Why bother posting any comment? Go out and enjoy your last few moments of freedom.

    Their new world order will make Hitler Nazism seem like a tea party since they see humans as a blight on the environment.Now is the time to stand up and be counted more than any other time in history.They will drive the entire planet into a new dark age where misery,injustice,poverty and oppression will be the norm.

  69. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 5:01 am

    wikileaks , wikipedia



    The Guardian reported today that two Israeli groups have set up training courses in subversive Wikipedia editing aiming to ‘show the other side’ of the Jewish State.

    Those who lend their pen to the Palestinian cause know about Wikipedia Jews, a term that was coined a few years ago. It refers to a bunch of rabid and crypto Zionists who constantly vandalise encyclopaedia entries to do with Palestine, Palestinian activists and Israeli atrocities.

  70. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 4:49 am


    ‘Anti-Semite’ – ‘It’s A Trick…We Always Use It’


    New crosses near Auschwitz anger Jewish
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    Note from Mohammed von Goldstein, Historian–Jews consistently call for the removal of Christian symbols from Auschwitz even though statistics at Auschwitz demonstrate that at least 80% of the labor at that work camp were non-Jews–e.g., Christians and Moslems–yet the Jews are only interested in Jewish-oriented deaths and not in the others. Very few persons who survived Auschwitz discuss the gassing of Jews or others there, except for the Jews who were interrogated for the Nuremberg Show Trial in 1947. In addition, the Red Cross was on-site at Auschwitz for all three years in question and reported no gassings at all occuring. This is embarrassing to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. At Nuremberg, the figure of 4.5 million Jews gassed at Auschwitz was offered based not on facts but on a mathematical formula–e.g., if the ovens worked full time 24 hours per day, 4.5 million could have been consumed, and, therefore, we know it happened. This was a specious argument, and recently the real figures of deaths at Auschwitz were released in Moscow to the chagrin of the ADL and Wiesenthal Trotskyite Factionalists. In addition, the same types of testimony given by Jews about Germans gassing people at the work camps were given by Polish testimonials concerning the Germans lining up the Polish officers at Katyn Forest and killing them; however, no German EVER killed a Polish Officer at Katyn, because the Russians (who took testimonies for BOTH Katyn Forest and Auschwitz for use at Nuremberg) admitted killing all of the Polish Officers at the Katyn Forest. So, since probable lies were admitted as testimony concerning the Katyn Forest Massacre of 40,000 Poles by Germans when all along the Russians knew Russian Jews did this, then all of the testimony at Nuremberg is called into question, because all of it came from Russian interrogators who let those testifying know that there were certain things they wanted to hear or else. Rudolf Hess and others were tortured to make them submit “properly approved” testimony at Nuremberg.

    With this background of historical hucksterism by the Nuremberg authorities in mind, the Jews in the story below look very foolish. Read this Associated Press Article illustrating the one-way street of the Jewish focus concerning World War Two which shows a one-way-mirror-vision and a highly racist, anti-Christian bias. After all, only 73,000 deaths were really recorded at Auschwitz and of those we can suspect that 80% or 53,400 were Christians and only 19,600 were Jews. Is this attitude Jewish chutzpah, or what? Without the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center goons running around Europe enforcing anti-freedom-of-speech laws about the holocaust, would this not be an open and shut affair in that the Jews are wrong about Auschwitz, their Holy of Holies in the Holocaust Affairs fo this World? Keep in mind that the Holocaust is a very productive industry for the Jewish People. Many museums, magazines, and social programs featuring Holocaust memorabilia and lectures, all of it based on very little forensic evidence or even photographs, few of which are available and all of which are specious in interpretation and shown over and over again on Jewish-owned networks and movie studio films.
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    New Crosses at Auschwitz Anger Jews
    Poland Will Not Take A Stand
    Tuesday, August 4, 1998, The Associated Press


  71. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 4:28 am

    Hardly anyone is writing about the City of London (The city within the city).
    The more I read and research the more I am convinced that the British are very involved in taking down America, and further incorporating it into their collection of “colonies” or crown colonies.

    I still agree that Israel is a manace and they have a lot of control over our government. But from my independent research I am finding some truth in the U.S. and Israel as proxies for the British. I would say more, but I hesitate on public forums. Needless to say, the U.S. citizen, like Germans of WWII time frame, have actually been set up to take the fall that the British, among other “elites” will benefit from.

  72. Calling all truthers  August 24, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Also, The BBC is controlled by the City of London. The City of London already knew Building 7 was going to come down….and like the short clip of that (2nd video) says, “someone pressed the play button too soon”.

    Now, come on folks. We need to start investigating the British a bit more on their part in this. I do believe the City of London (The financial center of world capitalism) is highly, if not totally, influenced by the Rothschild family.

  73. Calling all truthers  August 24, 2010 at 2:14 am

    Mr. Duff,

    Thanks for putting up this article on 9/11. I have changed my methods about 9/11 lately when people bring it up. I now ask them to provide me with irrefutable evidence “beyond a doubt” that the official story line is fact. Nobody yet has been able to. This, more than anything, seems to have cracked many people’s wall around this crime. It makes them start thinking.

    Also, a bit off topic (but not entirely)…

    I have noticed that very little is being said about the British in all these crimes and matters concerning wars, economy, 9/11 etc.

    Hardly anyone is writing about the City of London (The city within the city).
    The more I read and research the more I am convinced that the British are very involved in taking down America, and further incorporating it into their collection of “colonies” or crown colonies.

    I still agree that Israel is a manace and they have a lot of control over our government. But from my independent research I am finding some truth in the U.S. and Israel as proxies for the British. I would say more, but I hesitate on public forums. Needless to say, the U.S. citizen, like Germans of WWII time frame, have actually been set up to take the fall that the British, among other “elites” will benefit from. I am not trying to make excuses for the many ignorant in this country. The fact is, ignorance is always behind the fall of great nations. The majority of blame is always on those who have the power to manipulate media and to persuade those who fail to think things through rationally.

    There really does seem to be a missing link in all of this. I personally think it is the British side which has been largely ignored, except for occasional articles on Blair.

  74. Dub  August 24, 2010 at 2:03 am

    You go Steve there is no business like shoah business!

  75. Dub  August 24, 2010 at 1:45 am

    We can look at Hiroshima after the bomb 64 years later and it is a thriving modern city. We can compare it to Detroit 64 years later and realize U.S. politics is more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

  76. fixthefuture911  August 24, 2010 at 1:14 am


  77. K. Voorhees  August 24, 2010 at 1:07 am

    Has there ever been an explanation for why they didn’t dig up the swallowed-up plane and retrieve the bodies or body parts? They didn’t even try. A few years ago there was a news item about fragments of bones found atop one of the neighboring skyscrapers in NYC and those fragments were forensically examined and determined to be from 9/11 victims. At Shanksville, the government got to just say the whole plane was swallowed up and thats the end of it, like the plane went all the way to China.

  78. Gordon Duff  August 24, 2010 at 1:04 am

    This is the issue: (and as you know, I have worked on air crashes)
    1. no bodies, luggage or plane wreckage on site until day 2
    2. see number one
    3. read it again
    4. 757 can’t fly lower than 62 feet
    5. fifteen feet from bottom of engine to top of wing would cause the 757 at 400 knts to skim the top of the building or come apart well before hitting..this is confirmed
    6. pentagon only 77 feet tall
    7. 757 does not have a wing that will support flight at over 250 knots under 100 feet without DESTRUCT
    i can only guess..but probably the films were taken for a reason
    best guess…real plane did flyover…then fighter…crashed into building
    biggest wreckage item, other than the meat..tons of it…are seats
    no meat/no seats found
    am told plane went to taiwan, others too
    but…i won’t write that
    and so much else

  79. Gordon Duff  August 24, 2010 at 12:58 am

    Yes, I am sorry. I grounded NORAD and allowed all these TV people to accidentally tell America they knew about a terrorist attack. You sound upset…suggest you simply take what the people on TV said and like any decent American, get angry and realize that your government helped attack our country.
    It wouldn’t be the first time.
    Most of us here are vets…
    I am not sure how to respond to you. The people posting here I know, most of them anyway, and they are pretty well informed, some are actually people of note.

  80. Brian  August 24, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I am no missile expert but it’s seems to me a missile would explode on impact and make part of the building crumble in a non-geometrical fashion and not create a hole that looks like a jet engine crashed through it.

  81. OS  August 24, 2010 at 12:35 am

    I almost forgot, do you want to wear the Batman or Robin suit?

  82. defiantwon  August 24, 2010 at 12:27 am

    If the Government had nothing to hide, then They would release all the videos that were running on 9/11, enough said. 9/11 was an Inside Job. Planes/NoPlanes, it doesn’t matter. They won’t give us all the evidence, so their hiding something. Steel and concrete structures, don’t implode from fire, steel and concrete don’t turn to dust from falling down, and bodies don’t vaporize, Even when cremated there are large chunks of bones when burned. Follow the money, and who benefited???? Simple as that.
    Heres a great website, it has the best pics I have seen. Nobody has all the answers. All I can say is, the nonbelievers, need to understand our Government WOULD Do something like this to its people, Its called a “False Flag Operation” DEAL WITH IT


  83. OS  August 24, 2010 at 12:27 am

    You’re absolutely correct, just last week an investigative reporter “Clark Kent” informed me that Iran actually obtained some kryptonite. And if this information is accurate, it could be used to destroy Superman. But no need to worry, I’ll pick you up in the batmobile tomorrow so we can capture these villains.

  84. Brian  August 24, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Yes people are surprised a 757 could make those maneuvers, but I have posted links to articles with eyewitness testimony, photographs, and testimony that wreckage of a 757 was at the Pentagon. All of this strongly suggests it was a 757.

    Do you really think the plan was to crash a different plane into the Pentagon or a missile, dump the 757 in the ocean and then convince everyone at the crash scene, perhaps in advance, to lie that a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon and thus significantly increase the chances that somebody spills the beans in the future? I don’t think so. A terrible plan.

    Based on at least 25 convincing eyewitnesses; the photographs of the wreckage at the scene, including the crumbled aluminum which included luggage, to me obviously a plane hit the building. Just too risky to have a large collection of people lie that a 757 or an American airline commercial plane crashed into the Pentagon. Was it a military plane disguised as a 757, I don’t know, I suppose it’s possible.

    There are so many huge flaws with the missile theory. The missile theory is just a distraction from the obvious Mossad connections. Hard to believe the experts at the crime scene couldn’t figure out it was a missile and not an airplane. Perhaps they were all bribed or threatened. A bad plan.

  85. Steve  August 24, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Well you just caused me to unsubscribe. A lot of good Americans fought and died for what that flag represents, but you un-American *&^%$ are what is wrong with this country and the cause of all the bad things happening to it but one good thing is I don’t have to read anymore of this shit!

  86. Vickie  August 23, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    There is an excellent site on the web, The Thomas Pages.

    By Lloyd Thomas. He is a Pastor in Canada.

    It is free and it delves into all the errors in theology that permeate the Christian Church; and destroys those that promote Zionism and he is honest.

    He does a very good job of articulating the apparent theological problems with Darby’s Division, and Calvin’s Corruptions and he deals head on with the corruption in the theology behind Zionism.

    He articulates what God really meant in a no holds barred way that actually surprise, surprise makes God make sense. It is possible; for those who have ears to hear let them hear.

    I have been a born again Christian for some time now.

    I am going to sound nuts; but here I go. When I became a Christian God pointed me in this man’s direction; no explanation. Something just kept telling me to go back as I waded through Christian apologetics.

    It took a few years to realize that; if anyone has his doctrine in a row and get’s it; I mean really get it, he is it. He has a PHD or something (He is one of the Mensas I love to hate).

    No – He seems to know it. live it and he just has this really, really cool
    S. African accent I can’t get past. Just a sucker for a really cool accent.

    For anyone interested – It doesn’t take him long to demolish the theology behind Zionism and much of the other confusion that permeates the church. and it’s apparent problems. He understands God’s love, God and God’s intent and God’s strategy through history.

    For those who have ears to hear, let them hear. – Jesus

    God Bless

  87. Steve  August 23, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    All you people and your conspiracy theories. This is the United States your talking about not Iran and out of all the BS what can any of you prove all the crap I read here? What can you accomplish with all these news segments? Can you cause mass arrest of all these people that did all these things and have enough evidence to put them away? This stuff is like a sci fi movie on television or better yet reading a comic book. I bet Gordon doesn’t believe a man ever stepped on the moon…….. that it was all staged.

  88. Andrew  August 23, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    One question that seems to have never been asked. If the towers were brought down by controlled demolition, how did anyone get the explosives in place, and done so without raising suspicion? Well, I have the answer in print. During the events of 9/11 and thereafter, I was reading and printing out everything about it. I had printed out a story from the LA Times shortly after 9/11, whereas a Corporate Executive that worked in the towers related his story of events prior to that Tuesday (9/11). He said that the weeekend prior, there was a “POWER-DOWN” of the towers. That means the electricity was shut off. Normal surveilance cameras were inoperable. There had never before been a POWER-DOWN before. He said there were many individuals in suits (I’m assuming cover-all type) going in and out of the buildings all weekend long. When questioned about what was going on, they were told it was a communications upgrade. Why would you have to shut off the power for a communications upgrade? NO power, NO cameras, NO videos (evidence) of what was taking place.
    Also, as events were unfolding, I listened carefully. First reports said that as many as 50,000 could be dead. Then 40,000, and the numbers kept coming down. From those statements by the media, it’s clear that normally there could be that many people (employees and visitors) in the towers on a normal day. If I recall, less than 2,000 died. I had read that most people were told to stay home that day. Why? Some had to die (collateral damage)to achieve strong public support for a war Afghanistan) and quick passage of the sham Patriot Act. Not 1 Senator read it beforehand. That war was not about 9/11 or Bin Laden. Be it known that Bin Laden’s father owns the largest construction conglomerate in Saudi Arabia and sits on the Board of Carlyle Group, as does George H.W. Bush. Business partners.
    Who remembers the photo-op of “dubya” handing a Cheque for (34 or 43 million dollars) to the head of the Taliban shortly after taking office in 2001? It was touted as being given to the Taliban farmers to fight the opium trade. It was really a bribe for a pipeline. Unicol (now Chevron) had tried unsuccessfully for 10 years to build a Natural Gas pipeline through Afghanistan from the Baltic Region. At the G7 Summit in July of 2001, our U.S representative asked about a pipeline deal, and he was snubbed. Our Rep told him to “Accept our Gift of Gold, or be buried under a Carpet of Bombs in October. Then 9/11 conveniently happened, and wew attacked Afghanistan in October. The pipeline was under contract in May of 2002. Want to guess who got the contract? Then we started to shift troops to Iraq. Saddam was in the process of turning over their Oil operations to several Dutch Oil Companies. We could NOT have that, so Saddam had to be taken out. Haliburton has had a contract to install meters on Iraq’s Oil wells since 2003, and as yet has NOT done so. There is no acurate record of how much oil is being pumped, how much money is received for it, or where it is being shipped to. Any guesses?
    I also remember reading (may have it printed out) a story from a guy that worked for one of the 3 agencies (can’t remember which one, but don’t think it was NORAD)) responsible for the Country’s security. He stated receiving a STAND-DOWN order from someone “High up” in the White House the morning of 9/11. I have since read that Cheney issued that order.
    I’ve also read that Tower 7 (47 stories) had 2 floors that had been Top-Secret since 1998. Nobody knows why. Tower 7 also housed the the main offices of the FBI. At the time, the CEO of Occidental Petroleum was under indictment and the evidence against him (and other Corporate crooks) was in that building. Larry Silverstein said that the Fire Dept. decided to “pull” (controlled demolition) the building because of fires in the basement, deeming it unsafe. How did the fires start? With the building being unsafe to let stand, who went in to plant the explosives? It would also take weeks of planning where to put them, and actually putting them in place. This was supposedly done during a time of mass hysteria and confusion at Towers 1 & 2. And by who? Silverstein also had taken out a “Double Indemnity” Insurance Policy on the towers, in case they happened to be brought down by Airplanes. He stood to collect 3.7 billion dollars on an investment of $100M on a 99 year lease, in January 2001.

  89. Sleepangel  August 23, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Hey look everybody, Steve said this is all BS……so I guess that settles it.

    STFU steve, you useless eater.

  90. Denise  August 23, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    The Jews have done this to Whites, in particular, and the Goysiha, in general, whenever they get the chance. And the Schmoos NEVER learn. So perhaps we deserve to be fed into the jaws of Moloch. We won’t fight them. We won’t even yell back. So we are pathetic.

  91. Denise  August 23, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    The destruction of the West has been a Mossad creation. As long as Shabbos Goy golem, like Wilson, and paid whores like Glenn Beck, feed the Schmoos all kinds of poisoned saccharine, America will be lied to. Swallow those feel good lies whole. And kill the body Politic.

    I personally feel the the USA began to die when wretched traitors like Wilson and Aldritch sold the USA to the Spawn of Satan, in 1913.

    The Christ, and Hitler, tried to warn us…

  92. Denise  August 23, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    The destruction of the West has been a Mossad creation. As long as Shabbos Goy golem, like Wilson, and paid whores like Glenn Beck, feed the Schmoos all kinds of poisoned saccharine, america will be lied to. Swallow those fele good lies whole. And kill the body Politic.

    I personally feel the the USA began to die when wretched traitors like Wilson and Aldritch sold the USA to the Spawn of Satan, in 1913.

    The Christ, and Hitler, tried to warn us…

  93. Steve  August 23, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    This is all bullshit.

  94. little guy  August 23, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Prove it!

  95. OS  August 23, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    The northern region is primarily Muslim, where as the southern is primarily Christian, nothing new.

  96. CryUncle  August 23, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Please go to http://www.zshare.net/audio/79633196fa40246e/ and listen to the whole thing. It’ll blow your mind. This is real time stuff. The call in the recording was last night 8/22/10. The really good stuff is 21 minutes into the call. Check it out!

  97. OS  August 23, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Was it really a terror attack in Detroit? Nigerians have been fighting against each other for hundreds of years, do you know there are Nigerian Officials who have homes in Detroit? They travel back and forth.

  98. badcompany  August 23, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Good people, it is a FACT that Flight 93 was shot down!!! I live in the tri-border area of Pa., Ohio, and W.Va. which allows me to receive local news stations all around.
    On 911, during the six o’clock evening news broadcast out of Pittsburgh, Pa., on channel 4 WTAE-TV I personally watched no less than three people being interviewed in/around Shanksville and each was describing a jet firing on Flight 93. One woman in particular described how she was hanging laundry and witnessed a small jet near Flight 93 and seconds later an explosion. I have tried several times to speak with management re this particular set of interviews and it’s been nothing but “silent movies” time!
    I kick myself over and over for not having a VCR going at the time!

  99. Penumbra  August 23, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    “Angela Merkel of Germany and the UK Lords also owe an answer as to why they harbor andf protect Israeli criminals of ICTS International !”

    Precisely because they harbor and protect two of the seats of the Rothschild dynasty themselves.

    Let the countries of Europe apprehend, dispossess and indict all branches and members (and cohorts – Morgan’s, Rockefellers, et al.) of this Luciferian family and then not only the US but Europe as well could reverse the economic sedition of centuries and return to sound hard metal-backed monetary policy, with the prosperity history has repeatedly shown that will bring to many as opposed to the current elite few.

    Likely? Don’t hold your breath.

  100. Ken A  August 23, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    “Perhaps your comment was true years ago”. That was years ago.

    The claimed maneuver (Pentagon) is phenomenal. Why would Boeing equip a plane with such, if marginally possible. The sheer mass is the problem. It has inertia, which severely limits the response, unlike, for example, a drone. If there was a Boeing 757, it would be the first and last to fly at that speed near ground level. Is it stressed for that? The shaking would be phenomenal. The rulers are so confident and arrogant (rightly so) that they had the “commission” throw in these ridiculous speeds etc, to keep us guessing and discussing.

    I know, there are claims that the event was long in the making and Boeing, being in on it, had our $$ to complete such a project, in dark secret. But is that not going to a bit much trouble for such an event? Why not fake it, like they did.

    But even today, any radio controlled large plane can not perform such a feat.

  101. Erica Stuart  August 23, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Gordon: There come a point that leads one to ask “why are they still here?” With all due sympathies for their fear and paranoia, what are our leaders doing? Surely they cannot buy or blackmail all of us. Yes some tried to show the evidence, Gen. Petraeus even went public with the danger they present but some Congress member rushed to release a declaration presented to them bay the Lobby to support Netanyahu’s plan 100%. Obama was against it….but no protest from the other members of Congress to a handful of members pledging our full military support to any war Israel might start even nuclear. We have n o SUICIDAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM…Gordon, you are a military, so was my husband, what the???? is going on here? Are we a nation of coward? Netanyahu surely must think so. Tea parties want to take the Country back well to do so we ave to take our honor and values back first. Right now but for the troops at the front we have no honor or moral value. And we stand by letting some parassite, internal and external, endanger our guys?
    As wrote to them via the JBS Forum, “may God help them if our guys get killed because of the hatred they generate, hell has no fury matching the anger of veterans and military wives toward such treacherous……Sorry Gordon I am very angry and I an sure so are others as soon as the consequences hit us. We may turn the table on them. Enough is enough

  102. little guy  August 23, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I should also include this video…


  103. little guy  August 23, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    “Especially since no one has identified our masters?”

    The masters were identified a long time ago…they are the international Jewish banksters, otherwise known as the Illuminati. The Rothschild crime family are the overlords of the NWO…they are the eye atop the pyramid. Here are a few quotes for your edification…

    “History records that the money changers [Jews] have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it’s issuance”. — James Madison

    “Banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out. If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” – Andrew Jackson

    “We shall have World Government whether or not you like it… the only question is whether or not it be by conquest or consent.” – James Warburg, Rothschild Banking Agent, 1950

    “The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International Jewish bankers.” – Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

    “Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits.” Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England, 1922

    “The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the PEOPLE vs. THE BANKS.” – Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875

    “To wear everyone out by dissensions, animosities, terror, feuds, famine, inoculation of diseases, want, until the Gentiles sees no other way of escape except by appeal to our money and our power.” (Protocol 10)

    “We will so wear out and exhaust the Gentiles by all this that they will be compelled to offer us an international authority, which by its position will enable us to absorb without disturbance all the governmental forces of the world and thus form a super-government.” (The Protocols of Zion, Protocol 5)

    “The International government of the UN, stripped of it’s legal trimming, then, is really the International Government of the United States and the Soviet Union acting in Unison.” — From the American Jewish Committee’s official magazine “Commentary” of Nov. 1958, Pg. 376

    “The few who could understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of the people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” Rothschild agent, John Sherman 1863

    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” — Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976

    “The eyes of our citizens are not sufficiently open to the true cause of our distress. They ascribe them to everything but their true cause, the banking system;The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right MAJOR CRISIS, and the nations will accept the NEW WORLD ORDER.” — David Rockefeller — Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

    Hope this helps.

  104. PM  August 23, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    It’s all a shame. Who do you really trust? You can’t trust our own people at times. The thought pattern of people will have you amazed on what they do. It will be some sad times in the future for Americans with all the enemies within the borders. We are slowly being picked apart.

  105. OS  August 23, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    It’s takes hundreds of years to understand the differences in cultures around the world, and how this asset can assist with objectives. My family has been in American for 250 years, and passed some knowledge.

    One question is, why was US targeting the French, “We don’t like you anymore so stay away as promoted after the event”. Was the fear from the British? Culturally the British charge forward trying to take control, with little planning, they like to plan as they move. The French however are the opposite; they plan meticulously, sometimes too much before they move. It’s a perfect “Stand off”.

    If the French weren’t pushed aside after this event, they would have said, “Why are British Companies receiving so many contracts after the event, we must investigate”. And so they would have, and then things would have slowed down. Now we have time to evaluate what happened, such tactic was used in American Revolution.

    Another example, T. Hayward and gulf, move in quickly, lack of planning, move forward and plan as we go. And thereafter, pretend you’re larger then you really are, and take command, British strategy as used during the American Revolution. George Washington understood this very well, to defeat them, use their own tactics. And have the French slow down their progress through politics. Time was required to establish the Army.

    How do you find out what happened? You hire a team of French Attorneys and interrogate for about a year. When you get the British and French in a room together everything stops, one wishes to move forward, while other is stopping the movement. And then activity stops long enough, so you can investigate and determine what really happened.

  106. Equalizer  August 23, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    “I love my Country, but fear my government”…remember that one?

    How about changing fear to “loathe”.

    “Fear of men is a snare…”

  107. Ken A  August 23, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation.

    Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist.

    On no subject does this more apply than 9/11. Are we baffled/bewildered when we go to an “information” website, Veterans Today being an exception?


    Detraction is the name of the game. (BP, wikileaks, Mosque, Flu vaccine.)

    “Disinformation campaigns are launched against those seeking to uncover and expose the truth and/or the conspiracy.”

    “It is the disinfo artist and those who may pull their strings (those who stand to suffer should the crime be solved) MUST seek to prevent rational and complete examination of any chain of evidence which would hang them.”

    “No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion.”

    “They almost always have disdain for ‘conspiracy theorists’ and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO.”

  108. Equalizer  August 23, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    P.S. Tito was alive…and soldiers with machine guns everywhere in Dubrovnic; but, the “people” and the beauty of the coastline and islands I sailed to were…

  109. K. Rechtstein  August 23, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Michael, the out of Iraq SURGE is a strategic move, from President Obama and his handlers. They know all too well that if Iran is attacked, the first to be targeted are the over 100.000 US soldiers, present in Iraq.

    The Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons do not care a dime about the safety of any but the IDF hordes and would be glad to see the US public opinion galvanized by a large scale losses of American lives, due to being the USA suckered again and played for a fool by an insignificant state that owns, body and soul, the traitors in Congress and Senate. Ken

  110. Equalizer  August 23, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Gray, I felt the way you did when the U.S. destroyed Yugoslavia, my favorite country of the eleven I toured in 1976. A Country full of strategic metals.

    Kosovo is now a “wasteland” run by the mafia, awash with illegal drugs and prostitution. A snap shot of the “future” Amerika.

  111. Delia  August 23, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Wow. I was just watching the video at citizen investigation team on 9/11 and my computer completely shut down and went into recovery mode.

  112. Musashi  August 23, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    God there are some looneys here!

  113. Equalizer  August 23, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Drake; a suggestion would be to contact Vincent Bugliosi, author of “The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder”.

  114. Michael J Volz  August 23, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Obummer is a mossad creation, since mossad is the parent company of the CIA. Don’t get it twisted.


  115. Gray  August 23, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Thanks Rachael,
    Excellent “Comment”

    Yes, we do get some funny looks and rolling eyes when we bring up what is so blatantly obvious after just a cursory glance.
    Our credibility is our strongest suit; when we have a reputation for honesty and, calmly, slowly explain a little bit at a time, it seems to be the most persuasive.
    It helps tremendously for me that I actually spent time among ” Those Evil Muslims” ( I walked, hitch hiked through Iran, Iraq, Syria Lebanon, Turkey etc for 10-11 Months) and spent untold hours learning about each others culture.
    I was treated with the utmost kindness everywhere and tried to represent the rational, open minded America.
    The question I was asked most frequently was ” Why do Americans suddenly Hate us?”
    I tried to explain AIPAC’s Clout and Anti Islamic Media Bias but they gave Americans more credit.
    I was writing to my former hosts in Iraq (Mosul) until Bush War l.
    I can’t tell you how depressing it was to be in a bar room of cheering morons as the towns and villages of my former hosts were destroyed, “live”, on TV before a cheering and ignorant crowd who couldn’t find Iraq on a Map.
    It took a while to pay for the damage I did to idiots and furniture, and Here I am lecturing about “calmness and credibility”?!?!
    Anyway, thanks for the Excellent contribution.
    Best Wishes,

  116. Gray  August 23, 2010 at 1:37 pm


    Standing by today’s Muslim Victims of Professional Zionist Deceivers is the Strongest Message We can send to the Fraudulent “Never Again” Exploiters.

    They are America’s Persecuted “German Jews” as surely as Neo-Ziono-Con Miscreants are America’s German Nazis; Same Calculated, Criminal Scenario; Different Time and Country.

    But will we EVER have Enough Rope for Today’s Traitorous Occupiers?

    “But, it was on “The News”…….The Mantra of the Professionally Deceived!!!

    The AZC’s internal “Information and Public Relations Department” reports.
    “The following reports detail how the American Zionist Council used the funding in a sophisticated campaign to cajole and intimidate news media, subvert open debate about Israel and undermine reporting about key issues of the day such as Israel’s Dimona nuclear weapons facility, operation Susannah terror attacks on the United States, and the return of Arab refugees to their homes.  The AZC tracked and targeted professors and engaged in covert operations obliquely referred to in the following internal reports.
    After the Justice Department ordered the American Zionist Council to register as a foreign agent in late 1962, it transferred responsibilities to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which refuses to register as a foreign agent of the Israeli government.” END EXCERPT

    “Declassified Senate Investigation Files Reveal Clandestine Israeli PR Campaign in America”


    All LOYAL Americans must stand up to our REAL Threat

    Many Thanks,

  117. George  August 23, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Hasn’t any body read the King’s Torah. Then you would know where the hatred belongs. Its spelled out in black and white, remember we are the Gentiles. So are the Arab’s and those that oppose the rights of Isreal.

  118. Casey  August 23, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    I love you unconditionally. Please do not think that the U.S. government is us. I view it as a control system. If you we’re my neighbor I would hope that we’d be friends.

  119. Drake Bailey  August 23, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Mercy sakes! There be a awful lot of info about the distracting BS…
    Yup, not only said it BUT wrote it down too.
    Seems no one can see the tree for the forest here. And no, that ain’t backwards either!
    Distraction and diversion are THE main tactics, wake up, open your eyes, AND smell what is being shoveled…
    You got only one of these right, the smell.
    ALL the rest is just the cover.
    Cover for what, you ask?
    Very simply, politically, and factually accurate…
    This was all done in partnership with those who would be world rulers. Portions of several groups, agencies, and governments, all played roles in 911.
    -The official report states that none of this was possible without collusion and inside assistance…
    Suddenly everyone agreed, drastic action was called for!
    THEY got what THEY wanted too!
    >It is called The Homeland Security Act.
    The real reason for 911…
    Other than all the BS about this, it accomplished something that was unique in all of history!
    The Act declared a state of war inside our country against its own citizens!
    ALL rights were taken, fully and completely.
    The Emergency War Powers Act in force since 1933, ain’t got nothin on this one!
    Beyond rights, the whole of the legal system was subjugated. No more lawyers, and ‘evidence’ could consist of nothing more than rumors! Even then, these rumors did not have to be disclosed! AND no recourse of any examination of any kind, etc.
    The icing on the cake is the new reality governing life and death…
    THEY now have a ‘right’ to execute anyone considered a threat to the state!
    Just like other ‘attacks’, this was known months in advance.
    Two critical documents show advisories from other states and several other communications warning of this in detail!
    Times, dates, methods, people involved, flight numbers…ALL of it.
    The FACT that the Air Force was told to stand down, shows the level of involvement…
    ALL those involved in 911 and The Homeland Security Act, are guilty of high treason…ALL of them.
    All this is well known.
    The question then becomes how do you get justice out of a corrupt system?
    You completely change the system and all in it, that’s how!
    The main problem with all calls to action is very simple…
    No one can get We The People to even pay attention.
    Until such time as the water don’t run, phones don’t work, or the toilet don’t flush, no one will care…
    Only when the personal lives of the masses are messed with in a very personal way, will anyone even listen…
    Oppression has beaten down the once free spirit of the people to the point that apathy over rules even at the point of survival.
    Anyone listening?
    Any real action being taken?
    Does anyone really think that exchanging one for another will make any real difference?
    Especially since no one has identified our masters?
    I offer a peaceful revolution…might have to fight for it, but that will not be known until it happens.
    There are several simple legal actions that can bust the whole thing wide open!
    Any real law persons who read this, contact this site. I hereby allow this site to divulge my contact info to said law person…
    Of course, this all depends on IF anyone is interested…

  120. K. Rechtstein  August 23, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Ross, sorry to be skeptic on this one: They got away with the “King David Hotel bombing in Jerusalem”,the “bloody Murder of Count Bernadotte”, the “Lavon Affair”,the “Attack on USS LIBERTY-Slaughter of its crew”, the “US Marine Baraks’ bombing in Lebanon (induced terrorism),the “Bombing of a Synagogue ign Bagdad”, the “Murders of JFK and RFK”, the “Murder of Raquel Corrie”, The “Attacks on Gaza and Lebanon”, The “Selling of Intelligence stolen by Pollard to the Russian”, The etc., ect., etc., list is too long.

    Who controls the media-money, controls the politicians whores, including government and Pentagon.

    If the FED can print inorganic-fiat money, the Treasury can do the same, but no US President dare take the necessary steps to make that happen. While it is so, the Zion Talmudic International Mafia will continue ruling the world… unless something self-provoked of its own making opens the way for a permanent regime change in IsraHell and the USA.

  121. kelli  August 23, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    A lot of us don’t hate you at all. We see through the lies. We will prevail as the evil elite will destroy themselves eventually.

  122. Joe  August 23, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Below is a video from Israeli TV (With English Subtitles) The Video shows the Israelis that were arrested after 9/11 – The admit they were ‘here’ to document the event of 911.


  123. Edward Rynearson  August 23, 2010 at 11:25 am

    March 30, 2010

    Kevin Barrett interviews Alan Sabrosky whose forceful and unequivocal statement that the Israeli Mossad did 9/11 sent shock waves through the 9/11 truth movement. Some have cheered his forthright honesty and heartfelt sincerity. Others are afraid of the PR blowback. A few have attacked Sabrosky, calling him a provocateur or even an anti-Semite, which seems odd since Sabrosky is part Jewish and obviously concerned for the welfare of Jewish Americans in the coming post-9/11-truth world.


  124. Distrust Officialdom  August 23, 2010 at 11:24 am

    911 was so blatantly an inside job on behalf of intel and special ops that it is inane to believe the official cover story. See Valerie Plame, Sibel Edmonds, Able Danger, and the more than half-dozen war games being ran on that fateful morning. 4 planes off course and not a single one was intercepted by our billion dollar defense grid–please. All errors, all bumbling, all stumbling, all mistakes, all mishaps, and shortcomings? No one in their right mind could possibly believe that trash. WTC7 was brought down.

  125. Edward Rynearson  August 23, 2010 at 11:23 am

    August 7, 2010

    Kevin Barrett talks with Craig Ranke of Citizen Investigation Team (CIT), makers of the documentary National Security Alert. They discuss the CIT tour of Europe scheduled around this upcoming 9/11 anniversary. Craig also discusses 911blogger’s bizarre decision to censor Barrie Zwicker’s ringing endorsement of CIT.


  126. Edward Rynearson  August 23, 2010 at 11:22 am

    August 19, 2010

    Alex Jones talks with investigative journalist Wayne Madsen. In a recent articles, Madsen has provided bombshell revelations and extensive information about Barack Obama’s CIA origins. During the show today, Wayne will reveal additional information.



    July 29, 2010

    Alex Jones talks with Phil Berg, an activist attorney who brought a RICO lawsuit charging president George W. Bush and 154 others with complicity in the 9/11 attacks and filed a complaint in federal district court in 2008 alleging that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya, and thus not legally qualified to serve as president.


  127. Michael J Volz  August 23, 2010 at 10:59 am

    What does president obummer know and when did he know it? :


    The POTUS agrees with michael chertoff that questioning 911 is like questioning the holocaust.

    Jews do like it! An antisemite is someone the jews don’t like not someone who hates jews.


    PS, Obummer says we are out of Iraq (he keeps his promises)and we only left 50,000 “non-combat” soldiers behind; and 75,000 non-combat mercenaries.


  128. Michael J Volz  August 23, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Will would be glad to be your “moderator”. He will do it for free as he gets his check from another organization.


  129. Michael J Volz  August 23, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Thanks for the review Gordon,

    Though I didn’t need a to be reminded that I live in a fantasy land where stupid is normal and cowardice is a virtue.

    Have you heard from Will the Jew lately? Remember his advice to you: “if your would disavow the racist creeps who blame all the world’s problems on Jews” , you would have a much better site like the NY Times has.

    I think Will wants to send people like me to the gas chamber and then make a big lampshade out of me!


  130. rachel  August 23, 2010 at 10:33 am

    I’m sure many have figured this one out. WTC 7, 1 and 2 were all brought down with a nuclear charge planted 75 meters beneath it. WTC 1 and 2 had nuclear demoliton schemes as does the Willis tower (sears towers) in Chigago.

    WTC 7 was the command building. That’s the building they needed to use to deliver the nuclear charge to both 1 and 2. The reason building 2 went down before 1 was do to the tunnel delivery system. If took the closer building forst it would have destoryed the delivery tunnel to the building further away.

    Nuclear demolition is the only thing that have caused the building to turn to dust, the bodies, carpets, furniture…everything turned to dust. The damage zones and crush zenes didn’t fully engulf the buildings…so the very top of the building of WTC 1 and 2 actually crushed the rest of the tower whch had been turned to microscipoc dust less than 10 second before collapse.

    wtc 7 was collasped later to hide the tunnels and delivery system.

    Pentagon was hit with a missle, most likely stolen soviet missle, launched from east coast.

    Flight 77 which went down in PA was probably shot down by our own fighters.

    Not sure what became of other flights.

    the flights that hit WTC 1 and 2 were probably remote control planes, using computers to line up the nose of the craft with charges already planted in the building on the floors hit.

    The outer structure of WTC 1&2 were made of double walled 2 inch thick steel. It was designed to catch a plane like a metal screen stopping a pencil and many times over.

    I know from day one those buildings were desgined to withstand the impact of a ladrge passanger liner hitting several times over. The engineers forsaw that happening due to it’s hight.

    It was a coup! 9/11 was a military coup. Since then we have been in 2 wars and expanding into 3 to 4. Our country bankrupt. Our politicians traitors. Our people…too stupid to know better and brainwashed beyond belief.

    There is no hope for this country. Not even my own family will listen to reason. They are convinced the government would NEVER do that. That 9/11 happened just like they remember and that Muslims are all evil people and should be all shot on sight.

    It’s sad to see just how stupid we have become. What’s even worse is the criminal who did 9/11 are laughing all the way to the bank.

  131. David Martin  August 23, 2010 at 9:11 am

    You needed only one more video to make your presentation complete. See the YouTube on the five dancing Israelis at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw .

    On the crash in Pennsylvania, read about the Air Force orders to shoot down United Flight 93 at http://www.dcdave.com/article5/090924.htm . The 9/11 Commission Report states that the military was not aware of United 93 until it crashed. So many lies!

  132. Ross  August 23, 2010 at 6:17 am

    They are not going to get away with this Gordon like the assassination of JFK.As Alan Sabrosky says,this is an ongoing festering sore,with millions of people either killed or injured.

    There is a partial solution to stopping these lunatics from creating a world nuclear conflagration.We target the psyhcopathic war mongerers ie let China,Russia use their nuclear bunker busting technology as a first strike on the nuke shelters of Western lunatics and the USA military do likewise to Chinese/ Russian lunatics.There is no need to target our magnificient cities.When the really big rats have nowhere to hide,sanity will prevail.

  133. Vickie  August 23, 2010 at 3:26 am

    Gordon is right.

    Justice subverted is justice denied.

    Justice is when you get exactly, exactly what you deserve. NO MERCY

    That is what the criminal justice system is really for.

    The Nazi Hunter is right – You hunt them to the ends of the earth and drag them to justice. They aren’t going to turn themselves in.

    Justice belongs to the victim and we have no right to give it away. Those poor people are dead and you are never, never going to bring them back.

    I do not care what anyone, anyone says.

    Those people are worth it.

    Those people mattered. I do not care what anyone says; those people mattered.

    If you can – Fire up those gallows

    Those people; they are worth the fight

  134. Vickie  August 23, 2010 at 2:56 am

    The real problem with the whole 9-11 official version is the list of impossibilities is long if you look enough.

    How did Atta’s passport make it out of that inferno intact?
    It would have been on his body; it should have been incinerated.
    It was “conveniently” found intact and legible.

    Duff forgot one piece. Carl Cameron had a piece about the Israel connection to 9-11 and admitted all the evidence against Israel was “classified”. Then that piece was dumped down Fox memory hole. They call this scrubbed. If you look on the net people have retained it.

    Why the hell would a suicide bomber pack a bag; conveniently put on another flight to be found? I would not pack a bag for my last flight.

    The list is endless.

    The problem is – reality is a funny thing. Most people just hear the story without all the questions of the official version that people raise and don’t have the facts or the expertise to understand how systematically they are lied too.

    I thought the 9-11 Truthers were crazy; until I looked at what they had.

    Unless you understood the air defenses that Norad had and how hard they would be to beat. Unless you knew about the Military Grade Nano Thermite, unless you knew that the Bedouin in the cave in Afghanistan was a CIA asset Tim, unless you knew about all the Zionist espionage, unless you knew that they had actually said “pull” tower 7, unless you knew what a controlled demolition looked like, unless you knew how impossible those air maneuvers were, unless you knew it took days to wire a building, unless you knew Mossad had rented space in the Towers, unless you knew about the Art Students, unless you knew about the trail of financial transactions in effected industries that is tantamount to insider trading, unless you knew about the Jewish control of MSM, unless you knew they had negotiated for the pipelines and the Taliban wanted too much, unless you knew the Taliban had eradicated the Opium Trade, unless you knew Osama had problems with Israel not us, unless you knew the “devout Muslim hijackers liked to party, unless you knew about The PNAC, the list goes on.

    You know something is wrong; you just can’t put your finger on it.
    You can’t have an alternative reality; until it is introduced to you.

    This is all made possible by the scum bag press.

    They are a semi trusted brand – tragically

    The Big Lie Theory – Most people do not believe people will tell huge, detrimental lies. Most people will tell little lies and they don’t understand there is true evil that walks the face of this earth. The Twilight Of Psycho Paths. There are people that do not possess a conscience. Most people don’t really grasp that concept.
    They make the mistake of thinking everyone does. At least all those nice criminals (er-politicians) paraded on TV that fight so hard for those offices because they care about themselves (er-us).

    The big lie mantra – Make a lie so big and just keep repeating it.

    Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
    That was Hitlers propaganda minster.
    He was into the big lie concept.

    They believe American’s foreign policy is benevolent. NO – They really want to free those poor people from those nasty Tyrants the USA usually put there in the first place. They just are not told that part.

    They are not told most of our foreign bribes (er-aid) usually goes to the corrupt dictator and a back door subsidy to Murder Inc. in the form of weapons purchases for the corrupt dictator. They think it feeds the poor. They are not told they are actually financing their enslavement; by enslaving themselves with the money they borrowed to pay the dictator for the enslavement of the poor in a foreign country. It is a corrupt gig – Bend over baby.

    They don’t know the biggest drug importer in the United States is the CIA; they’re never told.

    They don’t know how many governments the CIA has overthrown around the world – even good democratically elected governments that were trying to look out for their population. We take them out. They don’t know the Tyrant the Shah of Iran was a gift from us, Saddam was ours too. How would they; they were never told.

    They don’t understand Murder Inc. is a very profitable business. The multi internationals gain control of the natural res-courses and the labor dirt cheap, the merchants of death Murder Inc. and all it’s contractors make a fortune, the Gangster Banksters make a fortune loaning money at interest. War is a very lucrative business with a huge profit margin. People don’t understand that. How would they; they’re never told.

    They are just told the big lie mantra

    They hate us for our freedoms.

    As the death hunt for the dead boogy man Osama continues

    And so the lying game goes

  135. Dub  August 23, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Too bad you can’t get a pic to open up on this site. There is billboard in Tennessee that say google building 7 and Bohemian Grove.

  136. fixthefuture911  August 22, 2010 at 11:59 pm


    Philip Mauro on Dispensationalism and Zionism in 1927
    Charles E. Carlson Mar 13, 2007

    That conceived in error, will die in evil company
    By Charles E. Carlson

    The Gospel of the Kingdom is a remarkable book, an epiphany to this writer. Philip Mauro, a lawyer, (nevertheless a devout follower of Christ), wrote this as a devastating refutation of the Scofield Reference Bible with amazing insight in 1927. In a chapter headed “Concerning Zionism” he tells us:

    The “dispensational” doctrine is that the natural descendants of Jacob will be gathered back to Palestine, still in impenitence and unbelief (Zionism is supposed to be the beginning of this movement); that Christ will come to “the air” above (unseen), will raise dead believers, change the living and take all to glory (1 Th. 4:16, 17), thus leaving only unsaved persons on earth; that the “great tribulation” will then ensue and will last for seven years…”

    Mauro continues:

    “… Zionism… has for its object the making of Palestine a homeland for the Jews. Concerning that movement a great deal of misinformation has been disseminated during the past twenty years in the interest of dispensationalism. For dispensationalist writers and speakers have painted wonderful word-pictures portraying the multitudes of Jews said to be flocking to their ancient homeland; the miraculously renewed fertility of the soil; the return of the early and latter rain etc. etc.; and it has been made to appear that the re-constitution of the Jewish State and the rebuilding of the Temple were matters of tomorrow or the day after. All these supposed happenings were presented to eager readers and hearers as a marvelous fulfillment of prophecy taking place before our very eyes, and as giving assurance that the time of the end had come. But the sober facts are that Zionism has been a pitiful failure almost from the beginning… Palestine is wretched in the extreme, and that the attitude of the great mass of Jews throughout the world towards the Zionistic project is that of complete apathy and indifference.”

    Mr. Mauro concludes his book’s introduction:

    “I would point out that this modern system of “dispensational teaching” is a cause of division and controversy between those followers of Christ who ought to be, at this time of crisis, solidly united against the mighty forces of unbelief and apostasy; and further that it tends to bring the vital truth of our Lord’s second coming into discredit with many, because it associates that great Bible doctrine with various speculative details for which no scriptural support can be found.” ( 1)

    The Gospel of the Kingdom is one of those rare “eureka” experiences for this writer. It was still in its original dustcover, a 1974 reproduction of the 1927 original, and, except for a few marks in the later chapters, appeared to have been little read when I found it in my “read when time permits” pile; I’m not sure how long it had been there. At 1:00 a.m. one morning I cracked the cover and was stunned by the clarity. Mr. Mauro’s introduction, which WHTT has sent to you, reminds me of the haunting phrase in slave trader John Newton’s “Amazing Grace;”

    “… was blind, but now I see….”

    Philip Mauro was a patent attorney who is said to have contributed to the research for the Scopes (Darwin) trial a few years before he wrote this book. He tells us with no little shame that he had been an early advocate of Scofieldism, or “dispensationalism,” as he called it. He introduces his book in a tone of repentance for having been taken in and then arrogantly assuring others that Scofieldism was the only way to understand God’s word. This remarkably clear book digs out and disentangles the terrible abuses of God himself found in Scofieldism, as can only be done by someone who once believed and now wants desperately to expose what is there in order to cleanse himself.

    What makes this book so remarkable to one who writes about Scofieldism today is that Mauro had only the early version of the Scofield Reference Bible to go by when he asserted that Israel, as a state and someday homeland, had no place in Christianity, but was a myth invented by those who promoted Scofieldism.
    We can see this more clearly today than in 1927 because we have the evil and godless state of Israel for a point of reference. Mauro did not have this advantage, because at the time he was writing, Israel existed only in the minds of Lord Rothschild and the World Zionist Organization, in words privately written by Sir Arthur Balfour, and in the footnotes inserted into the 1917 edition of the Scofield Reference Bible. Mauro destroys and buries these deliberate myths to perfection. We also have the advantage of the 1967 Edition of this incredible Oxford Press fraud against the name of Christ that forces a huge, foul dead rat state of Israel down our throats as a God Icon.

    Israel’s never ending stream of “Christian” tourist buses run from Tel Aviv to the occupied territories, led by Zionists like John Hagee and Jerry Falwell, who arrange junkets so no guest need ever talk to an Arab alone, and few buy from their shops. These Armageddon seeking Christians flock to see the “sacred sites” on guided tours, but stay only in Israeli “five star” hotels on the other side of the 26 foot high prison wall, thus the plight of the Philistine Christians remains a secret to those who walk right past their shops.

    We can read all about the abuse of the Philistines if we want to know, but the insightful Philip Mauro had to figure all this out for himself from recognizing the falseness of the Scofieldized teachings that he so clearly identifies. We shall try our best to bring this book back to life, and I suspect that God has blessed Philip Mauro for writing it. He lived from 1859-1952, and he has made We Hold These Truths’ navigation task much easier since he blazed a trail along the narrow path; your writer is convinced that We Hold These Truths is indeed staggering along the narrow path toward the Strait Gate as fast as we can falteringly go on the resources at hand. –End

    Charles Carlson’s updated Roots of Scofieldism and its effect upon Palestine is available without charge in audio-visual format by clicking this link:


    ………Sir Arthur Balfour…….

  137. Marycatherine Barton  August 22, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Israel is a pariah nation, and that is what the USA is dealing with it, yet most of the citizens have below-average intelligence. Unless we can get a government that will bring back the jobs and stop the wars, Americans are cooked.

  138. Anonymous Smith  August 22, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Sticks and stones…

  139. Brian  August 22, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Your comment:

    (Radio control of this beast is not possible, incidentally. They are only designed for a long, straight in standard emergency approach with precision Approach Radar assist.)

    I have read comments by exerts and have a friend who has talked to experts about remote control and with respect, I disagree with your comment. Perhaps your comment was true years ago with old technology. I don’t know.

  140. Brian  August 22, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Yes, he has Gordon. He gets all types of intriguing information.

  141. Brian  August 22, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Flight 93 was shot down. People saw it fall apart in the sky. Wreckage and what seemed to be human body parts were found away from the crash site. Probably shot down by the US government. Perhaps those militant Mennonites did it!

    The plane was flown by remote control. No Arabs crashed the plane due to a struggle with pilots. Nobody on the plane could override the remote control. Probably no Muslim patsies on the plane just Mossad moles dressed as Arabs putting on a show in case stewardesses used their air phone.

    An easy to read, compelling short article with which includes eyewitness testimony and other strong evidence. Somebody in the US government didn’t want it crashing into a building.


  142. Dan  August 22, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    As Dr. Sabrosky put it, if one WTC building was rigged with explosives, all were rigged with explosives. Obviously WTC7 was brought down by demolition charges, and there can be no other conclusion drawn from the residual flecks of ultra-high tech nano-thermitic explosives in its dust and its perfectly symmetrical collapse into its own basement. Thanks for the Silverstein video, which I’d never seen before. My guess is the plan is to plunge us into WW III to preempt the backlash when the truth about 911 reaches a critical point, and invoke the cyberspace security act to shut down any Internet site critical of the US government or Israel. I also believe that Bernanke, Geithner, et al., are well aware of the consequences that creating another $5 trillion will have on the dollar, which will cause it to collapse and send this country into survival mode under a totalitarian police state using tactics rivaling anything used by the worst regimes of the last century.

  143. wolf  August 22, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    “Those of us in the military took an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

    We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of TREASON.”
    -Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer, USAF

  144. Dave  August 22, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    As long as braindead christians believe Isra-hell is Jesus, they’ll be unfazed by the truth even when it smacks them across the head with a 2×4.

  145. GSMAN  August 22, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Check out this work along with the eyewitness evidence;


  146. Ken A  August 22, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Why are people so keen on having this Boeing at the Pentagon? Sit back and make the Government prove it, right. Nothing but fuzzy confusion, on purpose. If it could, it would. So logical. Or maybe they want them to keep guessing. Diverts the attention from worse things.

    If it has luggage, then “radio control” is not being claimed. Real flight. (Radio control of this beast is not possible, incidentally. They are only designed for a long, straight in standard emergency approach with precision Approach Radar assist.)

    Thus, this maneuver is absolutely impossible. That is the indisputable premise. Parts are all fake and not from this Boeing. “Real parts” is faulty, backward logic. So the task is to prove that they are false. Could they be placed. Logic says yes.

    The conclusion follows the premise.

    Where are the 10,000 witnesses as the bird made its final approach over a heavily populated area? 500 mph at approach altitude gets attention. But it made a 180 turn and dropped 7000 feet in the last few minutes, or something like that, they say! This is after a grueling flight completely across the state, fighting off passengers, etc., first time in the plane, astonishing standard east coast haze, no instruments, no sleep for days. People will believe anything. Just like Bucky Rogers on TV (or is he no longer on TV?).

    Where is the residue from the huge engine when it came to rest after penetration of the wall. Evaporated, we suppose. What kind of ballistics is this? At lot of evaporation seems to be in order here. If there was luggage, there were bodies. Where are they?

  147. Lese Majeste  August 22, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    The same sleight of hand was pulled in Shanksville, PA. Look at the pics showing the crash site after a 100 ton jet slammed into the ground.

    There was NO visible debris, instead, we were told that the grond liquified and swallowed the parts, all 100 tons.

    And a grief stricken and horrorified nation bought the lies.

  148. fixthefuture911  August 22, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Ok , My fellow stupid American Goyim
    Let us say the pledge…
    I , stupid gullible American Goyim Pledge allegiance
    to the Flag of United Genocidal Zionist Whackjob Lunatic Vampires,
    to the Flag of Neo-Con Zionist Fascists,
    to the Flag of Soulless Traitors,
    to the Flag of the Satanic Talmudic (ADL) ,
    to the flag of the Fascist (SPLC),
    to the flag of BIG LYING JACKASSES,
    to the flag of “how dumb can I be” ???????
    for no good reason at all

    Goyim is ??…..Means cattle

    Means cattle. How the jews and the Zion master sees all non jews in particular whites. Said with contemption.
    Those goyim will send troops to the middle east and fight a war for us or we’ll call them anti semites.

  149. Gordon Duff  August 22, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Madsen is on the Mark with that one. He has been on a roll recently.

  150. Egoigwe  August 22, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Why do you think 911 would be any different? Americans love their Tvs, it’s where illusions come alive and that’s why they love to lap it all up. So sad to see such great potentials on bended knees, and all for the sake of what? One tiny place called Israel.

  151. Egoigwe  August 22, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    It’s all such an illusion, Gordon. Take it or leave, everything American, for the lack of a better expression is simply ‘Hollywood’. Take your pick; from its fiat currency, to the ‘democracy’ that it pushes, its ‘War on terror’, way down to Osama bin Laden, to its ‘Drug Wars’, its ‘pandemics’, Main Stream Media, and down to Wall Street and the Gulf-all made in Hollywood.

  152. Brian  August 22, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Here is another article that has great photographs of the wreckage at the Pentagon which strongly suggest the Pentagon was hit by a 757. Most people probably have not seen the majority of these photographs.I suggest people take a look.


  153. an arab from the mid-est  August 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    salam alekem;(سلام عليكم)

    question only to USA citizen. WHY DO YOU HATE US SO MUCH IF 9/11 WAS INSIDE JOB.
    because we in the mid-est will know the diffrence between USA CITIZEN AND THIER GOVERMENT.

  154. Brian  August 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Intriguing article. Building seven is a major item since the evidence strongly indicates it was a controlled demolition.

    Regarding the Pentagon, let me offer a little evidence that it was hit by a 757 and the hole was created by one of the huge engines. This article http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ppfinal.html?q=ppfinal.html

    has a revealing photograph of the wreckage at the Pentagon. For those interested, go down to the picture next to this text: The Pentagon is a building mostly made of concrete and wood.

    Enlarge the photograph. You will see a large pile of crumpled aluminum from the airplane. You can see pieces of luggage mixed in it. Was this dumped there afterwords by some of those involved in the attack? I really don’t think so but I could be wrong. Why have that risky task be part of the plan? Too easy to get caught. Just crash the 757 into the Pentagon.

    Regarding the size of the whole, camera angles and distance are important in photographs for depth and other factors. Scroll down in the article until you find a collection of photographs of the wreckage reportedly found at the Pentagon. There is a hole there that a man could probably easily walk through but I could be wrong. The photograph seems to have been taken before they used construction equipment but I can’t be certain.

    Just some information to review.

    By the way, 911 was a Mossad operation.

  155. jonathan mark  August 22, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Gordon, It takes a strong heart and gut to see through the lies, and to keep supporting an awakening process. Thank You..

    Do you agree with Wayne Madsen having ‘Conclusively Outed’ Barack Obama as a ‘CIA Creation’ as per this linked youtube video?

  156. Ken A  August 22, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    A citizen can be enlightened or it cannot (the majority). Cut and dried, binary. Same as in the middle ages. Some people write and rave about this stuff (Jones!) for some relief, but know it can not change.

    This is the moronic stupor of all time. There is not one word (believable) in support of NORAD’s non-participation, for example. Of course they did not get involved as there were no planes. But does this not provoke some questions? They don’t care! The people in charge (NORAD) enjoyed subsequent high-level promotions. No one blinked. Only bowed in submission and grinned. But when the judge, jury and criminal is the same, the outcome is predictable.

    When the US slides totally into the abyss, the US will never get the blame from these citizens. Outrage will build over Big Corp, etc., but who allowed it? Congress people. They are ultimately always in charge, backed by 300,000 people.

    TV will gloss it over a bit but it is mostly stupidly. Even simple economics hurts the brain.

    This is all insanity. But is it, if it is the norm?

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