Before we kill each other over Religion, Take this Quiz

Music is the universal language of mankind, why can’t religion play the same role?

By Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

Different Religions, One GOD.

Personally I never imagined that humans in the 21st century will be that obsessed with religion. And to be exact, the obsession I’m talking about is not like the obsession- for example – with music which makes you a good listener and perhaps a not so bad player of a musical instrument. When you get into the world of music you become a different human being, more sensitive, more perceptive of abstract beauty and capable of acquiring positive energy and positive frame of mind.

The religious obsession I’m talking about is not like delving into the religious teachings and discerning the uplifting values within the core of almost every faith on earth. Unfortunately most people don’t dig deep for that core; rather they are more preoccupied with trivial appearances.

People are now obsessed with BRANDING each other by their religion. It seems it doesn’t matter anymore who you are, what you do and how good you do it. It is vital now to know what kind of religion you adhere to.

People everywhere – it doesn’t matter if you were in Malaysia or the Netherlands, if you were in America or Pakistan – began to discriminate against the religious minority groups.

Muslims attack churches and prosecute Christian minorities in Malaysia, Pakistan and Egypt. Hindu extremists are often engaged in acts of violence against the Muslim and Sikh minorities in India. The spiritual and meditative practice of Hinduism’s yoga is considered incompatible with the teachings of Jesus by some Christian leaders in America. Muslim outfits and mosques are not tolerated by Christians in Europe. Islamophobia is sweeping across America after 9/11 as people there began to link Islam with terrorism.

People began to categorize each other by their religion, hate each other because of their religion and may be even kill each other by the name of their religion. Armageddon is definitely underway.

Ironically, the followers of every creed or faith think they got GOD on their side. People on every side believe they are the only ones who have a monopoly of the truth and righteousness. Every religion members believe they are the true believers and the rest are just infidels who somehow got lost on the way to heaven. Meanwhile heaven must be bitterly giggling at this earthly farcical comedy that portrays GOD as pathetically taking sides.

Religion is supposed to be a special relationship with God, it’s extremely private, and it is an exclusive affair. We don’t allow others to meddle in our private life let alone our religious beliefs.

Religion and cultural evolution

It is hard to imagine that after thousands of years of man’s pursuit of divinity we still worship not one GOD.  Human knowledge and experience have critically evolved throughout history. We don’t eat or read or think or even listen to music like in ancient times. Music has dramatically evoloved from folk – prehistoric- music to large scale symphonies. But we still practice religion like in ancient times worshiping multiple deities with different names.

Why religious thinking failed to have come the long way like other human practices and spheres. And i`m not referring to creation vs evolution here but to our perspective and interpretation of religion. Why we managed to grow out of the myths of the past but still insist to indoctrinate our children with the depraved bits in our religions- and miss out on the good ones- that add to their intolerance of other faith believers.

Religious diversity.

If we dismissed all the discriminative parts in almost every creed on earth we’ll be surprised to find that we are talking about one message and one GOD. And only through this dismissal of – outdated and depraved bits- can religion catch on the cycle of cultural evolution.

If humans kept on clinging to their religious prejudices they will likely contribute to the degeneration of the realm of one of the most sublime human endeavors, namely, faith.

If we knew better, if only we knew more about each other’s religions maybe we would have come to respect and recognize that we have a lot more to share than to denounce and hate each other for.

 People are awash in a sea of faith, but their knowledge about religious faiths and religious history often runs as shallow as their commitment to religion runs deep. This was the end result of the recent survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.

If we had the chance to know more and better, if we let go of our prejudices of the past, we would arrive at the threshold of every religion and know the place for the first time. We would discover that the diversity that exists among the various religious traditions is enormously enriching. In this context we could easily come to appreciate the sanctity of the Jewish Sabbath, the Muslim fasting in the month of Ramadan, the meditation and compassion of Hinduism and Buddhism. We’d be deeply touched and moved by the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross.

Music is the universal language of mankind, why can’t religion play the same role?

Let’s detach religion from the hate rhetoric and dirty politics. Let’s strip away the false appearances. Let’s liberate religion from the bounds of ignorance and extremism. Let’s delve into an era of enlightenment and coexistence amongst believers of different faiths and beliefs. Let’s agree that we could practice different religious rituals but that we glorify the same GOD.

Let’s not hate and kill each other over religion. Nobody’s GOD will like that. Nobody’s GOD could have decreed that.

Religion should be like music acting as a subtle form of communication which, at its best, transcends the limitations of language and ethnicity in unifying the people.

 Let’s not lose hope.  Let’s call off the countdown to the apocalyptic Armageddon. let us learn more about other religions. May be when you discover how little you really know, you would consider unsubscribing to the annihilation of life on earth in the name of religion. And maybe then we could find true meaning and refuge in one of the last sayings of Jesus upon the cross … “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do”

Take the Quiz

How much do you know about religion?

And how do you compare with the average American? Here’s your chance to find out.

Take our short, 15-question quiz, and see how you do in comparison with 3,412 randomly sampled adults who were asked these and other questions in the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey. This national poll was conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life from May 19 through June 6, 2010, on landlines and cell phones, in English and Spanish.

When you finish the quiz, you will be able to compare your knowledge of religion with participants in the national telephone poll. You can see how you compare with the overall population as well as with people of various religious traditions, people who attend worship services frequently or less often, men and women, and college graduates as well as those who did not attend college.

For a full analysis of the findings of the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey, read the full report.

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65 Responses to "Before we kill each other over Religion, Take this Quiz"

  1. tammy swofford  October 25, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Islam is not a religion. It is a form of governance with geopolitical and religious aspects. It is a gestalt, with none of the parts inseparable from the mass of jurisprudential doctrine and secondarily dependent upon the whole for survival.

    Tammy Swofford

  2. Shirin  October 22, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Dr. Ashraf Ezzat,

    For all your education and pretenses of non-bias, you referred to Moslems, Christians and Hindus and their intolerance for each other, but you failed to mention how, over the past century, the Jewish people suffered at the hands of both Moslems and so-called Christians.

    I know, you write for a website that publishes articles about the Jewish people as if these were copied from the Nazi manifestos. Of course, we know how the Nazis and the Brotherhood of Islam became one in their goals against the Jewish people.

  3. malaysian  October 16, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    dear dr ezzat,
    the problem in the world is created by human’s emotion, not religion.
    when we sympatised with a certain group we help them, but if we dont sympatised, even the other group has similar problem with the previous group, we simply dont help them.

    when human have prejudices, we will dwell with it, and act base on ‘the worst case scenario’ and do a pre-emtive strike etc. but in Quran, God warns people not to do pre-emptive strike or actions, whatever the issue is.

    when we hate, we will see the bad side of everything from a certain group, even somethings that the whole world do. and some peoples try to heat up this hate, for political mileage, to gain support, to gain the feeling of in control, to feel empowered, or to get sponsorship for their program.

    people love to wins, even with words. we tend to bend quotes for our gain, even the quotes mean the other way. these works best when the other party dont clarify the exact quotes. just like the quran, people quotes all the harsh things from quran, but they dont understand that, every verse in quran are interconnected. there are verse that condemn people (muslim included) that pick a verse and simply ignore the other verse . as example, we must defend ourselves but we must not kill the innocence, which ever side he/she may be. and if we dont, god will punished us in the afterlife.
    our greed, our self-assured, our fear, and many more will make people kill each other.
    stalin, is an atheist.
    hitler, seem to be a christians, but does he ever pray to god?
    mao, an atheist.
    the dubai royal family, though claimed to be muslim, but many of their doing is condemn by the quran. so think again.
    the group claimed to be taliban, killed many innocence people, a deadly sin, which according the quran, will be given harsh punishment at afterlife.

    • Gary Walker  October 17, 2010 at 1:04 am

      Greetings to Malaysian,

      You mentioned Hitler. And as I recall the Nazis had, “God With Us” on their belt buckles. Reminds me of the Nazis in our own military. God seems to be a constant companion to brutality.

      To those who “pick a verse and simply ignore another verse” in any so called holy book, I say why not? It is the books that are at fault for being contradictory. The sheep are merley looking for alibies to excuse their despicable behavior. And there are plenty of alibies. The holy books are road maps to cruelty. The Koran is no exception. I have read it, and the best thing I can say about the vaunted Koran is that it is a lot shorter than the Bible.

      “With or without religion, good people will do good, and evil people will do evil. But it takes religion to get good people to do evil.” – Steven Weinberg


  4. Osama Al-Rashidi  October 16, 2010 at 5:19 am

    لماذا لم نتوحد نحن البشر في هذا الكون ولم يستطع الدين أن يجمعنا أو يوحدنا رغم إعتقادي أن جميع الأديان تقوم وتدعوا إلى حسن الأخلاق وأدب المعاملة فلا أعتقد أن هناك دين قد أجاز قتل النفس أو أحل الأغتصاب أو الزنا أو شرع السرقة والنصب أو أحل الكذب والنميمة .
    ولكن إعتقادي أن مفاهيمنا لهذه الصفات في هذا الزمن الذي نحيا فيه قد تغيرت مع تغير الظروف التي نعيش فيها.
    فالفقر أجاز لنا السرقة وحلل لنا الزنا لتأخر سن الزواج والصراع على المال سهل لنا قتل النفس والصراع على السلطة حبب لنا الكذب والنفاق .
    أنها تغيرات ظروف الحياة التى لم تستطيع أن تعدلهاأو تغيرها فخربت نفوس البشر وبالتالي خربت مفاهيم الناس لأديانها وأصبح هناك صراع بين الأديان الذي يغذيه الصراع بين الحضارات وهذا الصراع لم ينتهي لأنه ببساطة في هذا الزمن قد ماتت الأخلاق

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 16, 2010 at 11:25 am

      أتفق معك فى معظم ما قلت .. و لكنى أختلف معك فى أننى أرى أن الدين ليس له علاقة بالأخلاق ..الاخلاق وجدت قبل الاديان و حتى بعدها..من الممكن أن أن تجد جماعة أو مجتمع ملحد .. ولكه يحتفظ بمنظومة أخلاقية متفق عليها

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:27 pm

      Dr. Ezzat, could you translate Osama’s post? And, your response to him for the rest of us? I would be interested to know what he wrote, and you too.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 16, 2010 at 7:43 pm

      Osama wrote ” i wonder why religion has failed to unite us all, after all, almost all religions incite people to morality and good manners.
      and i think that poverty along with socio-political variables have conributed to the struggle and conflict between religions and that conflict is not likely to end soon because morality is declared dead”

      I replied ” i mostly agree, but i don`t agree that morality has a lot to do with religion. Morality- the awareness of a conduct that differentiate good from bad- has been around long before religion emerged and will likely to continue if religion is abandoned. For example, Atheists denounce religion & God but they adhere to a code of moral conduct.

    • Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 4:26 pm

      Thank you.

  5. B.A. Gilmore  October 15, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    You know why religion will never be like music? Because no one’s going to kill you for listening to country instead of rock.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 15, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      You listen to country music..!!
      Get the HELL out of my page.
      …That was a joke.
      As a matter of fact, i couldn`t imagine HEAVEN without the music of MOZART or BEETHOVEN or CHOPIN or BRAHMS or WAGNER or VERDI..i can go on and on.

    • Gary Walker  October 16, 2010 at 12:46 am

      Hey Doc, imagine there’s no heaven its easy if you try, no hell below us, above us only sky.

      I think it is very interesting that Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, and Verdi were all freethinkers, or infidels. Many talented musicians are non religious including of course John Lennon.

      Imagine no religion,

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 5:19 pm

      Gary, I’m praying for you too!

      P.S. Lennon’s song reminds me of my first love who wrapped his parents station-wagon around a telephone pole…didn’t “celebrate” his 18th birthday.

      Maybe if he’d been in a church youth group instead of out “partying”…

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 5:21 pm

      Or, the Dixie Chicks!! O.K., joke; they were right about “W” tho!

    • Ken Rechtstein  October 17, 2010 at 2:26 pm

      Dr Ezzat, Giv Um Keltum, Fairuz, Abdelwahab, Fareed El Atrach, Duke Ellington, Count Bassie, Miles Davis, Art Tatum, Wes Montgomery, Nina Simone, Ray Charles, John Lenon, etc. a try. Many knowlegeable westerners find them quite exciting. If all that fail, try Golda Meir singing Hava Nagila. She is unsuperable. Best. Ken.

  6. Ken Rechtstein  October 15, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Dr Ezzat, a touchy subject you brought in here…The only way to peace’n tolerance is forgetting totally about the “Holly” ‘n “Unholly” books/home gown brew ’bout what has never been proved, beyong any doubt, by science. Fact is: ‘FREETHINKERS’ are generally the most knowlegeable about religious believes- more tolerant. Where do we start? -I guess with ‘RAMA PITHECUS’ ‘n work our way fr there w. FACTS on the table. Meanwhile in MHO, the most anti-human-racist-fascist ‘book’ is the Talmud. It beats them all.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 15, 2010 at 4:34 pm

      I can`t ask people to relinquish their religions. But i can invite them to relinquish their religiuos prejudices and outdated beliefs. i,m talking worldwide.
      You have the privilage to a free speech in a free country. But you try and express an opinion like that in a Muslim country and your life is in jeopardy.
      There are Jews, Christians and Muslims who still believe that we are on earth because we are sinners and we are destined to the annihilation of End times prophecy.

    • Ken Rechtstein  October 16, 2010 at 3:21 am

      As a matter of fact I did, and the comment was: “this Rama Pithecus, you talk about, is also a creature of Allah”. Nobody chopped my head off. Now, try to tell in Israel that the Talmud is a filty book and you will end up as organs donor against your will.

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm

      Or, human blood in a mix-master!

    • Anonymous Smith  October 18, 2010 at 10:08 pm

      …only if you’re a child under the age of 3.

    • ray  October 16, 2010 at 6:27 pm

      We are on earth simply to obey and submit to the will of GOD… i wasnt born a sinner..and neither were you…you have choices you make and you will be held accountable for them.


  7. Ken Rechtstein  October 15, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Dr Ezzat, a touchy subject you brought in here…The only way to peace’n tolerance is forgetting totally about the “Holly” ‘n “Unholly” books/home gown brew ’bout what has never been proved, beyong any doubt, by science. Fact is: ‘FREETHINKERS’ are generally the most knowlegeable about religious believes- more tolerant. Where do we start? -I guess with ‘RAMA PITHECUS’ and work our way fr there w. FACTS on the table. Meanwhile in MHO, the most anti-human-racist-fascist ‘book’ is the Talmud. Beat them all…

  8. Gary Walker  October 14, 2010 at 5:45 pm


    Well, Dr. Azzat I have to say I disagree here. I think that monotheism was the worst idea humans ever came up with. Although, when you look at the big three, what Karen Armstrong calls the God religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, there are trinities, ghosts, angels, and my personal favorit, demons. Not much different from polytheism, but monotheism is potrayed as the ONE true fairy tale and all others must be erradicated.

    “Faith is believing what you know ain’t so.” – Puddin Head Wilson – created by Mark Twain

    Faith is believing in things for which there is no evidence. I think that faith is counter productive. And as Benny Franklin pointed out, “To see by faith is to close the eye to reason.”

    By the way, ATHEISTS scored the highest on the quiz. I wonder why.
    I took the quiz and got 15/15, %100. The last time that happened was in a third grade spelling test. This test was on the third grade level and most Christians flunked.

    “Say what you will about the sweet miracle of faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying.” Kurt Vonnegut


    • ray  October 14, 2010 at 7:32 pm

      Dear Gary Walker Fellow ATHEIST.

      The believers believe in the unseen with true faith and they believe in the CREATOR not the creations. IN addition, ATHEISTS scored the highest on the quiz – very interesting – because this must mean they are in search of something to have obtained all this knowledge –not for vain… but even if you were provided with proof — whose to say you will the believe or not? WOULD YOU THEN BELIEVE IF PROOF WAS GIVEN TO YOU? A fellow by the name of Mr. Hawking mentioned that no need is present to have this universe to be created via GOD…yet if someone asked him how he managed to out-live his condition as another surely wouldve died by now…he will mention the love faith support of his WIFE….MIRACLE OF FAITH.


    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 14, 2010 at 7:59 pm

      @ Gary Walker
      Historically speaking, you may be right.
      Extremism emerged with the birth of monotheism. But the problem at hand now necessitates calling for tolerance amongst different creeds or else we`r all doomed – including atheists & agnostics.

    • ray  October 15, 2010 at 10:18 am

      I dont believe that all this killing have anything to do with Religion.

      Religion is simply a cover…Its more to do with piling up for Material wealth to gain power and control… if you remove belief in GOD and his laws…you will then be living in a JUNGLE…with no laws or moral values etc..

      It this effort of trying to erridicate religion from the mind so that its free for all and no worry of afterlife that is creating trouble for mankind. Its the efforts of misrepresenting religion for selfishness that is creating trouble. Its the efforts of changing the true words for falsehood…

      If i remove religion I will feel no guilt in doing sin…and you will not have to worry about any future punishment…FREE FOR ALL…THE STRONGEST WILL SURVIVE- DARWINISM.

    • Gary Walker  October 15, 2010 at 10:48 am

      Ray, it seems to me that belief in an afterlife makes it much easier to kill because you are not really killing someone, but merely sending them off to their next life.

      “Men never do evil so well and so cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” – Blaise Pascall


    • ray  October 15, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      Dear Gary,

      Why do you keep signing off with “infidel”? I being a muslim do not believe you to be a infidle (WHATEVER THAT MAY MEAN).

      YOu have right to your opinion…and by not believe in anything i think your half way to faith. 🙂 THERE IS NO GOD……but one.

    • ray  October 16, 2010 at 6:23 pm

      SO no god, no afterlife…so i can do as I please…Lawlessness

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 5:30 pm

      ray, you are on the right track…HEDGEMONY.

    • Gary Walker  October 15, 2010 at 10:39 am

      Yes, Dr. Ezzat, I agree, although I do not care for the word tolerance. It has an air of superiority about it. Anyway, America led the way for religious freedom by separating religion from the arm of the state. Freedom of religion requires freedom from religion. This has worked quite well in America, resulting in one of the most religious, or as Bill Mahre says, “religulous,” countries in the so called western world.

      The Muslims are currently trying to pass an anti-blasphemy law at the UN. This would be an unfortunate slide back to the Dark Ages when religion ruled the world.

      I respect the right of every person to believe what they want, but I do not have to respect WHAT they believe. When someone uses their religulous beliefs to defend murder, pedophilia, misogyny, slavery, patriachy, war, homophobia, etc., I will object. Religious beliefs should not be shielded from criticism anymore than political beliefs like trickle dumb economics.

      Shepherds are for sheep,

  9. ray  October 14, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Interesting thing about ISLAM via Quran – Muslims may overlook at times – is the fact that QURAN sets the record straight on the acts of fellow jews and christians…but also MUSLIMS too…perhaps we muslims keep missing it…
    The Quran states clearly the Hypocrits in the Muslim camp. It also set the record straight on the polytheists. Also – Would you please care to define the word “MUSLIM” – does the definition fit you? Can I call you a MUSLIM?

    But the best part of it all is what everyone continues to miss even the muslims. YOu wont see this in the Holy Torah or Holy Bible.

    The Qur’an teaches that there are faithful Christians and Jews:
    Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA).
    Nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: Because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant (5:85 AYA/82 MP).

  10. Virg  October 14, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    “People began to categorize each other by their religion, hate each other because of their religion and may be even kill each other by the name of their religion. Armageddon is definitely underway.”

    There are only two religions that hate everyone else’s religion and will kill in the name of their religion/God. They are: Judaism and Islam.

    Judaism is totally racist – and that’s odd because they, too, are Gentiles, not Semites. There isn’t a “Jew” alive today that can prove he/she is a genetically-related Israelite. Over 90% of today’s “Jews” trace their roots to the Khazar Empire.

    Some background on Jews…

    What world famous men
    said about the Jews

    Kitat Kohenut and the Israeli Police State in Amerikka

    Islam started out to be a close kin to Judeo-Christian belief while Mohammad was in Mecca. But the persecution from some of the Meccan tribes drove Mohammad to Medina where he abrogated the Koran. Nevertheless, Mohammad was no apostle/prophet of God! “his life is filled with lustfulness (12 marriages and sex with a child, slaves and concubines), rapes, warfare, conquests, and unmerciful butcheries. The infinitely good, just and all holy God simply cannot tolerate anything in the least unjust or sinful.”

    • Christian Beyer  October 14, 2010 at 3:57 pm

      You’ve never heard of the Crusades? Or the Inquisition? Or the Atahualpa Massacre of Cajamarca? Or Wounded Knee? Or any number of Buddhist and Hindu violent encounters in the East? Hm.

    • Virg  October 14, 2010 at 5:26 pm

      Yes, I know of all those plus one or two that you’ve probably never heard of. But, with the possible exception of the Crusades/Assassins, there are only two religions today that would kill in order to control the world.

      Personally, I have a problem with man controlling the world! Mankind does not know how to use power properly – it always goes to his/her head and they magnify themselves all the more. Islam would kill all the “infidels,” while Judaism would kill most of the world’s population and enslave the remainder. God didn’t intend for it to be that way so, just when these “religions” think they have won, God will demonstrate His power!

  11. ray  October 14, 2010 at 11:03 am

    It was revealed in Mecca when the Muslims were persecuted by the polytheists of Mecca.

    Say (O Prophet): O ye who reject faith! (1)
    I worship not that which ye worship; (2)
    Nor worship ye that which I worship. (3)
    And I shall not worship that which ye worship. (4)
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5)
    Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

  12. Ken A.  October 14, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Religion, like politics, is always promoted by the leaders, for self gain, and are usually too cleaver to be believers (Televangelists). The Middle Age Bishops of Europe often ruled the King, and were typically fiercely ambitious.

    Combine this with the need for the human to have a spiritual crutch.

    Like the leaders now in the USA, have no allegiance to a flag but love to watch them hang them out.

    The trend is division, not unity, by nature.

  13. Anonymous Smith  October 14, 2010 at 5:07 am

    From the article…”Let’s not lose hope. Let’s call off the countdown to the apocalyptic Armageddon.”

    The Christians and the Jews want Armageddon, and they mean to have it, no matter what anyone else believes…it’s what they live for! They actually believe that, if THEY can create the right circumstances here on earth, their messiah will return and whisk them up to heaven…where they will get to watch the rest of us being tortured and murdered for our sins. How nice!

    BTW…it turns out that cultural and religious diversity are bad for society…very bad. You would think that it would bring people together, help them to understand each other. In reality, the exact opposite is true…cultural and religious diversity actually make us suspicious of our neighbors and it causes us to feel isolated and paranoid. Cultural and religious diversity prevent us from uniting! That’s why the liberal Jews push the doctrine of diversity…it prevents us from uniting to fight the Communist New World Order!

    • Christian Beyer  October 14, 2010 at 3:51 pm

      Uh,not all Christians and Jews. Paranoia rears it’s ugly head. I guess it was a bad thing having all those Protestants, Jews and Catholics mixing it up during the last century. And all those Irish,German,Italian, Chinese immigrants would have better off back at home. If only we could return to the days of the Mayflower. (sigh)

    • Anonymous Smith  October 14, 2010 at 5:15 pm

      If you have something to say then stop beating around the bush and say it.

    • Christian Beyer  October 14, 2010 at 11:08 pm

      Sure. Your premise is historically unfounded and beyond absurd. I think it is based upon ungrounded fears, delusions and hysterical paranoia. I suspect that you are an adherent to numerous conspiracy theories, and that you are anti-Semitic and Islamophobic. You are likely a nominal Christian (you don’t say -maybe an atheist). And you watch too much Glenn Beck.


    • Anonymous Smith  October 15, 2010 at 2:09 am

      Nope, sorry…I still don’t know what you’re talking about. Can you be more specific?

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:41 pm

      And, Handmaiden.

  14. wolf  October 14, 2010 at 12:47 am

    As stated in the article, music IS the universal language of mankind.

    Ludwig Von Beethoven incorporated words from a poem, ‘Ode to Joy’ by Friedrich Schiller into the vocal chorus of his famous 9th Symphony.

    Excerpt translated from the Deutsch:

    “Be embraced, millions! This kiss to the entire world!
    Brothers – above the starry canopy, A loving father must dwell.”

    “Whoever has had the great fortune, To be a friend’s friend,
    Whoever has won the love of a devoted wife, Add his to our jubilation!”

    “Indeed, whoever can call even one soul his own on this earth!
    And whoever was never able to must creep, tearfully away from this circle.”

    “Those who dwell in the great circle, Pay homage to sympathy!
    It leads to the stars, Where the Unknown reigns.”

    –From ‘Ode to Joy’ by Friedrich Schiller, 1785

    (Raise your stein…L’Chaim!)

    • gmg  October 14, 2010 at 9:42 am

      I disagree. I think mathematics is the common language of humans. Music itself relies upon good use of mathematics.

    • wolf  October 14, 2010 at 3:51 pm

      gmg, yes you make a good point about the relationship between music and mathematics. I recently read an article that takes it one step further.

      Imagine an incredibly powerful, wealthy person who secretly prospers from conflict, disease and war learns that certain sound frequencies (those easily divisible by two, signifying opposition) create conflict, discord and disharmony while those divisible by three (signifying balance, polity, reconciliation, harmony) produce symmetry, and visually harmonic, pleasing structures.

      Now imagine that he has the power to establish the tuning standard of all musical instruments throughout the Western World.

      Imagine that he bases the entire scale of musical artistic creation upon a frequency which would skew vibrations towards discord.

      It sounds like science fiction. Yet this is exactly what transpired in September 1939 when Rockefeller (Illuminati) financial interests dictated that the standard tuning for the note of “A” above middle C would henceforth be said to vibrate at precisely 440 cycles per second.

      This unnatural standard tuning frequency, removed from the symmetry of sacred vibrations and overtones, has declared war on the subconscious mind of Western Man.

      The standard tuning fork, which is set to vibrate the note “A” above middle C at 440 cycles per second, is based upon a frequency only divisible by two rather than three, which means that all of the musical notes both above and below it are affected.

      Despite the apparent “sweet music” a symphony orchestra can produce, when all instruments are tuned based on the A=440Hz key frequency, they are covert weapons no matter what “music” they may be playing.

      These destructive frequencies entrain the thoughts towards disruption, disharmony, disunity. Additionally, they also stimulate the controlling organ of the body — the brain — into disharmonious resonance, which ultimately creates disease and war.

      The initial effort to make A=440 Hz the basis of standard tuning took place in 1910 when the Rockefeller Foundation issued a grant to the American Federation of Musicians to popularize the concept. The initial effort failed.

      However, the BSI – British Standards Institute – officially adopted A=440 Hz in 1939, promoted by the strange consortium of Rockefeller Foundation influence and the Nazi government. Ironically, The British adopted a tuning standard promoted by the Third Reich, just as both went to war. While 440Hz had been rejected by British musicians only 3 months prior, Josef Goebbels persuaded the BSI to adapt 440Hz saying it was of extraordinary importance.

      As Dr. Leonard Horowitz concludes: “Music bioenergetically affects your body chemistry, psycho neuro immunology, and health. Your body is now vibrating musically, audibly and subliminally, according to an institutionally imposed frequency in harmony with aggression and in dissonance rather than vibrating in harmony with Love.”

      –from an article by L.C. Vincent

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:40 pm

      Really facinating, wolf.

    • Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 5:01 pm

      wolf, after viewing a link Ron Paul 2012 posted on one of Gordon’s stories:

      Your discussion here about mathmatics became even more intriguing…you’ll have to scroll to LPAC TV at bottom of post and choose October 16, 2010 video about the 25th Amendment…

      Larouche talks about mathmatics versus physical science and the significance in economic theory.

    • Christian Beyer  October 14, 2010 at 3:53 pm

      Not everyone understands calculus. But most everyone loves to sing and dance.

  15. malaysian  October 13, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    i’m from malaysia, but never heard of any christian being PROSECUTED because of their religion.

    what had happen was muslims had attack churches and non-muslims(christians included) also attacked mosque.

    but i guess the western media loves to manipulate things, especially regarding us, the muslims.

    can the western media be more just in their news?

    • Ken A.  October 14, 2010 at 10:49 am

      In the middle ages, including late, they burned people to death for denying, in Europe/England. And everyone in the town came to watch, as justice was being served. plus human morbid curiosity.

    • malaysian  October 14, 2010 at 11:25 am

      we want truth, but we still believe what we want, even it is not the truth at all.

      we talk about a third party like we have known him/her for years, we sounds like we live with him/her or something, but the funny thing is, we barely know what is going on inside our child’s mind.

      we see chaos and we want to point fingers at somebody or something, but yet again we, the humans as general, are the one who manipulating things, words, history etc just to have the pleasure of saying ‘i’ve told you so’, or the feeling of ‘we are better than that group’.

      we know little about the universe, yet we claim that there is no god. yet, we can’t prove that there is no god.

      we generalize the cruelty of people of certain religion, as the word of god, but we barely know what the exactly those word of god and what are the other word of god.

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:34 pm

      malasian, do you mean persecuted? The christians were thrown to the lions…

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:34 pm

      sorry, malaysian…

  16. Chris  October 13, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    This “call for tolerance” is perhaps the most ignorant one I’ve ever read. The irony is that is it is exactly this kind of ignorance that makes the tolerance you are preaching for impossible.

    The most glaring example of the author’s ignorance is how he says by looking at all the religions we’re actually seeing “one message and one GOD.” Obviously the Hindus are the confused ones mistaking their gods for the author’s monotheistic god.

    Also notable for its absence is the third option to the question of how many gods there are, none. If you really want to criticize our culture for not having a more evolved spiritual side, why not take aim at the real issue. We need to move past the ridiculous superstitions of a bunch of bronze-age goat herders.

    In all probability, there are no gods. So lets try to come up with a more realistic relationship between us an our environment.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 13, 2010 at 9:27 pm

      Even in polytheistic religions you cannot help but detect the shadow of the one and righteous GOD behind every deity.
      Diversity is enriching only in the eyes that can behold what lies behind different appearances.

    • Gordon Duff  October 13, 2010 at 10:03 pm

      how many holy ghosts are there? does the bible keep it at one or can there be more?
      how do you apply?

    • Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 4:30 pm

      Gordon, I’m still praying for you!

    • Chris  October 13, 2010 at 11:27 pm

      Diversity is accepting different opinions for what they are, not pretending other people are simply perceiving your own (obviously correct) opinion incorrectly.

      I probably couldn’t come up with a better example than this article of self-righteous ignorance. You seem to be so proud of yourself for what you do know that you don’t even realize what you don’t.

    • Christian Beyer  October 14, 2010 at 3:52 pm

      Excellent piece, Doctor. Very imaginative and thought provokin. I love the music analogy – it works on many levels. Hope you don’t mind me quoting you on my little blog.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat  October 14, 2010 at 7:22 pm

      Not at all, i`d be delighted if you did. Thanks

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