“Israeli terrorist “clones” are responsible for most hard line rhetoric, threats and, if we investigated closely, have actually recruited terrorists and directly inspired, if not planned and executed, attacks on Americans…Gadahn is part of it, so is Wikileaks”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

9/11 End of the NYC World


A call to arms, demanding Muslims in America and elsewhere begin a terror campaign, was spread around the world.  The message, we are told, was found on a “secret website” by an Israeli company who put it in a press release.

There is no evidence any American Muslim has ever been on the website referred to, no American intelligence agency could find it, not the CIA or the FBI or Homeland Security.  There was only one way the 300,000 Muslims of Detroit could hear call to terrorism, from an Israeli company that passes on such messages for profit.

Does it create them too?  You be the judge.

Let’s look at a possible analogy.  If you were to capture a vicious rabid dog in the wilderness and turned it loose in a children’s playground, would you be a terrorist?

This is essentially what is being admitted to.

What is in question, another analogy, is whether you purposefully infected the dog with rabies in the first place.  Either way, you are a terrorist.

Adam Gadahn, the “American Taliban,” the lisping, overweight bungler continually calling for the murder of Americans is really named Adam Perlman from a family highly influential in the Anti-Defamation League.  The group distributing his threats, SITE Intelligence, contracted to the American government, is run by a former IDF member whose father was executed in Iraq as a Mossad terrorist.  SITE Intelligence is the source of the Osama bin Laden tapes long proven to be, not only the wrong voice, but to resemble bin Laden so little as to have become a joke.

Faces of Adam Gadahn

Adam Gadahn

Gadahn came on the scene when tapes of Osama bin Laden claiming credit for 9/11 failed forensic examination.  They were counterfeits.  The CIA’s own version had bin Laden denying any involvement.  (See APPENDIX below for official CIA transcript)

This was late 2001 and Americans hadn’t been told that the story about Tora Bora, the many stories about Tora Bora, warlords covering for bin Laden, American troops being pulled back at the last minute by presidential order or the Delta Force being betrayed, were all lies.  Osama bin Laden, already dying from kidney failure, was murdered by one of his own men on December 14, 2001.

Pakistan’s ISI had informants there, it was leaked to the newspapers and was widely reported.  Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto even announced it in an interview with BBC’s David Frost.

With a 9/11 denial “on the books” and bin Laden dead, there would be no invasion of Iraq, no new leader was “in place” to bring out for the American people, no new “boogeyman.”

The very real conspiracy, covering up the sickening truth about 9/11, the treasonous intelligence doctoring leading to the disaster in Iraq and the upcoming years of building a drug empire in Afghanistan, stealing billions in oil from Iraq, the thinly disguised martial law decrees in America and the planned attack on Iran, was threatened unless, somehow, Osama bin Laden could be brought back to life.

Nearly a decade later, Pakistan’s intelligence chief, General Pasha does everything but scream it from rooftops, when he carefully hints to a dull witted ABC interviewer that bin Laden is dead.  Journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave of UPI and Washington Times fame, makes it as clear as possible when he says “Bin Laden is as dead as Elvis.”  Even CIA director Leon Panetta confirms there is no evidence of bin Laden since “late 2001.”

With bin Laden dead, it all falls apart, Al Qaeda, 9/11, and the continual accusations made against Pakistan.  Still, we hear it.  Bin Laden touring Afghanistan or as with last weeks report, “living in luxury” in Iran.

Not only is bin Laden dead but when he was alive, the BBC confirmed that he had absolutely no terrorist organization of any kind, masterminded no plots, controlled no organizations and had no more involvement on the world stage other than, at one time, helping the CIA raise money to fund refugee organizations during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

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Contrary to what has been reported, bin Laden never raised money for weapons.  That task was left to Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, the CIA paymaster who received $800,000,000 in US funds.  Today we are told Hikmatyar may be in Iran.  However, we have verified that he is actually in Pakistan, working directly with the CIA as “go between” with the Taliban, taking an active role in the current talks with the Karzai government.  Few in Afghanistan trust Hikmatyar, long a favorite with CIA and Pakistan “hard liners.”

If anything, the myth of Osama bin Laden is actually Hikmatyar.  What is said bin Laden did in Afghanistan was always Hikmatyar, CIA “moneyman” and terrorist.  Problem is, he is still a CIA moneyman and terrorist, flying on American planes, going on and off American bases but listed with the Department of Homeland Security as one of the most wanted terrorists in the world.  The truth, Hikmatyar is seen by the US as their “dealmaker” in Afghanistan, something many in Afghanistan find both frightening and delusional.

Perhaps one of the most frightening issues of the ‘war on terror’ or, more appropriately, ‘the phony war on terror’ has been the use of ‘terrorist clones’ like Adam Perlman, the Israeli actor playing a Taliban leader on videos distributed by Israeli intelligence.  The real insanity is that the videos aren’t produced to just fool Americans into rebuilding the coalition of Islamophobics and paranoids typified by the subscribers of www.familysecuritymatters.org.  Please, visit this website.  See if everything on it doesn’t just scream

“Look out, the boogeyman is coming, quick, hide under your bed!”

Things aren’t that innocent.  Much of the message is going to the Islamic community worldwide and is reaching people who are angry and looking for someone to blame.  Those funding Adam Gadhan, those magically finding his mysterious broadcasts and those distributing them to the world are giving material support to terrorism.  They are, in fact, terrorists.

The message they, our friends, you know exactly who I mean, are spreading is clear:

“Attack and kill Americans, not just in Iraq and Afghanistan, but anywhere you can find them in the world.  They are the real enemy, not Israel.”

Does anyone wonder why Gadahn never calls for attacks on Israel?  In fact, Al Qaeda doesn’t seem to know Israel exists.  They never threaten Israel.  They never attack Israel.  They never even mention Israel, never.  All those Osama bin Laden and Adam Perlman, sorry, “Adam Gadahn” tapes have one thing in common.

Israel doesn’t exist.  Get the  picture?  Here is what Perlman, lets be straight about it, his name is Perlman, his family is Jewish, Zionist, and very active in the ADL.  This is what he or is it ‘they” are advocating in this statement released yesterday:

“emigrant communities like those which live on the margins of society in the miserable suburbs of Paris, London and Detroit, or are from those arriving in America or Europe to study in its universities or seek their daily bread in the streets of its cities….you have an opportunity to strike the leaders of unbelief and retaliate against them on their own soil, as long as there is no covenant between you and them”

Clear and simple, we are hearing what Israel is telling the world, the Muslim world, is the voice of Al Qaeda.  What is Israel, or rather “Al Qaeda” telling us?

Please attack Britain, France and the United States but leave Israel alone.

Detroit has Muslim population of 300,000 yet, the one terrorist attack there was done by a mentally incompetent Nigerian national.  Do you remember the “crotch bomber?”  Do you wonder why the story disappeared from the news so quickly?  When two Detroit attorneys caught airport officials putting the terrorist on a plane, airport officials working for an Israeli company, things fell apart.  When Veterans Today discovered from intelligence sources in both Nigeria and Ghana that the boy’s family was not only tied directly to the CIA but the father was a business partner in an Israeli defense firm, it came apart further.  When this came out, a news “blackout” fell and the story died.

When the government of Yemen found laptop computers belonging to “Al Qaeda” that showed a clear record of daily contacts with “handlers” in Israel, the story died totally.

The Detroit bombing told us two things:

  1. The vast majority of American Muslims are Americans and have no loyalty to religious extremists or any other country.  That is “those other guys.”  American Muslims are mostly, not only Republicans but politically active in the party and very conservative.
  2. Terrorists can’t move around the world without help, either visas, real or phony, passports, security”walk arounds” and more.  If a grandmother with a knitting needle and an American passport could never, under any imaginable circumstances, get on a plane in Schipol Airport, how did a single male, Nigeria, Muslim, no passport at all…he wasn’t carrying any identification of any kind and, this is the best part, a bomb strapped to his genitals get seated on a plane ahead of the rest of the passengers.  Remember, you first have to get into a country with no passport, around immigration,  then you have to go through airport security and prove you have proper immigration documents then you are checked again before boarding.  Abdul Mohammed, without Mossad help, stood a better chance of winning the Irish Sweepstakes than getting on that plane.

Is that a bomb in your pants or are you just glad to see me?


For years, Perlman, masquerading as a spokesman for Al Qaeda, has put out childish videos, all time to help certain political races, influence arms sales to Israel, or as with yesterday’s treat, to reinforce the Wikileaks fiasco, another attempt to con America.  Last time Wikileaks tried to get the US to cut all aid to Pakistan, an act which would have made the war in Afghanistan even worse than it is now, if that’s possible.  This one is time to a Wikileak “custom crafted” to blame the world’s ills on Iran, target number one for Israel.  As a “three fer,” the New York Times and MSNBC went after Iran for “secretly” buying off President Karzai of Afghanistan.

We knew Karzai was aligned with India and Israel against Pakistan.  Now he is “owned” by Iran?  How many sides can one person be on?

When I was in Pakistan earlier in the year, Gadahn was said to be hiding in an apartment building in Karachi.  The building was stormed, “Gadahn” was captured, a “Gadahn,” not “the Gadahn.”  It seems that a “look alike” had been used to leave a false trail, the real Adam Perlman was safe and sound elsewhere, some place with video studios.  The individual recruiting real terrorists to kill real Americans with real bombs is a real Israeli, no question about that, and not the first time.

It is also believed that the new “Al Qaeda” operations chief, Adnan Shukrijumah of Brooklyn, New York and Miami Beach is another Israeli creation, a phony terrorist, an actor, much like the phony “bin Ladens” of every shape and size used to scare small children after the death of the real bin Laden in December 2001.

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During comprehensive briefings with Pakistans ISPR, the group that briefs people like, well, Secretary Clinton, it was made clear to me that we were all on the same page, Osama bin Laden is dead.  There was much discussion, some of it humorous, as how to let people know.  After short discussions on this with ISPR DG General Athar Abbas I was summoned to a “mysterious” meeting.

This was General Ahmed Shurja Pasha, Director General of Pakistan’s intelligence service known as the ISI.  During a private lunch with  the director, his top aide, Commodore Zafar Iqbal and author Jeff Gates, who was accompanying me on a lecture tour, one of the areas of discussion was dishonesty in journalism.  An interview with a very prominent American journalist that General Pasha had held had been falsified.  Statements regarding Pakistan and Mumbai were simply invented.  This wasn’t the first time I had run into this.  A widely published interview between the editor of a Washington newspaper and former ISI Chief General Hamid Gul was similarly fabricated.

When I made reference to the Gul interview in an article, he phoned me.  Gul, an editor at Veterans Today, a co-worker and good friend, pointed out that the interview never happened and was entirely made up.  Another “famous journalist” with an agenda simply invented a story, had it published around the world, and the real truth would be lost forever.  Between video editing, phony interviews and released audio and video tapes of dead or non-existent “terrorists,” the media has ended up being as strong a force promoting extremism and conflict as the real issues, which, frankly, none of us are that sure about anymore.

People like Pakistan’s Imran Khan, who talk about extremism in realistic terms are seldom listened to.  How can I prove this?  Do you know who Imran Khan is?  There is your answer.


This week, something surprising happened in Australia.  In a world where you can’t tun on a television without hearing how crazy people are who question the 9/11 cover story, even though Fox News seems to have changed sides on this issue, what you don’t see are public opinion polls on 9/11.  If Bill Maher or Jon Stewart, the “liberal progressives” of American television, with their continual attacks on “the right” show us one thing it is that, no matter how much you may find government a pack of useless liars, the magic “boxcutter and pancaking building” story on 9/11 must be adhered to.  Even though those the 9/11 Truth movement blame, the Americans anyway, are you most vile political enemies, when it comes to 9/11, you attack anyone who questions the Bush/Cheney doctrine like a rabid field mouse.

There is a reason for this.  The ability to repeat 9/11, contain an investigation, keep press assets focused on a cover story few take seriously anymore, is vital.  Without the ability to blow up an American city and blame Iran or an imaginary terrorist group, the “Masters of the Universe” will lose their ability to control the fate of the human race.

Thus, everything we have seen since 9/11 has been done to prepare us for the next 9/11.  The last one finished Saddam, looted the American economy and imposed martial law on the United States.  Iran and Pakistan still stand.  With all the terror warnings, phony stories about imaginary nuclear programs, the threats, the sanctions and even Wikileaks, it all isn’t going to be enough.

America is sick of war and not very likely to believe the media, not anymore.  Big problem here, when you attack anyone’s credibility, the Bush administration, Obama, Tony Blair, eventually people begin to question you too.

Watch Wikileaks dribble away into nothing.  Watch the news try to pump air into this story and spin it against Iran.

When that fails, maybe it will be time to hide under your bed after all.




Website of Doha Al-Jazirah Satellite Channel Television in Arabic  [FBIS Report] Website of Doha Al-Jazirah Satellite Channel Television in Arabic,independent television station financed by the Qatari Government, which can be accessedat URL: http://www.aljazeera.net, carries at 2011 GMT on 24 September the text of the following letter by Usama Bin Ladin “to the Pakistani people.”

  • “We hope that these brothers would be the first martyrs in Islam’s battle in this age against the new Jewish crusade that is being led by the biggest crusader, Bush, under the banner of the cross. This battle is one of Islam’s immortal battles.”
  • “We beseech God to grant him victory against the forces of infidelity and arrogance, and to crush the new crusader-Jewish campaign on the land of Pakistan and Afghanistan.”
  • “I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States.”
  • “Neither I had any knowledge of these attacks nor I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. . Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other people. Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle.”
  • “All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.”
  • “Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the US Government has stated.
  • “The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive.”
  • “They can be any one, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia.”
  • “Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.”
  • “Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these (FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY 180)  agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taliban and then this incident happened.”
  • “Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat.”
  • “President Bush or any other US President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who made the attacks.”
  • “Supporting the US act is the need of some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However, they should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral position if they support the attack of the Christians and the Jews on a Muslim country like Afghanistan.”
  • “I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.”
  • “This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel.”
  • ”The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which make us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves.”
  • “Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness.”


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  1. burp!  October 29, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    DAMITAL’s are better! take a fist full and crawl us in the mourning 🙂

  2. OS  October 29, 2010 at 11:41 am


    The perfect example of the ‘Reptilian’ mindset is when you look to the west, they perfected this practice. My concern is the Middle East, and Africa. And eliminating this Masonic Infrastructure that makes so many believes our purpose is for their gain, and will further escalate the invisible wars not being discussed. These wars are categorized into the “War on Terror” concept, and what obscure ideology to provoke an agenda for extreme wealth and control. The War on Terror with ‘Reptilian’ mindset is dangerous combination, but being implemented world wide. And stated in previous comments, I have known some of the persons who orchestrated this ideology using other programs they practiced. Wealth is an illusion, Power and Control is maintained through clans of people that are appointed to positions through high order of ancient and obscured ideology and tradition. The reason’s for promoting otherwise, are to make people look in other directions. My primary profession is analyzing infrastructure, and preparing detailed operational plans (one of best in world), and was asked in past to perform this task for Middle East and relocate to London.

  3. Denise  October 28, 2010 at 11:28 am

    It’s always been the Jew. The Children of the Devil. They worship Satan. The Christ, and the REAL Martin Luther, and Henry Ford, and poor old Adolf – they tried to communicate the same simple message.

  4. Michael J Volz  October 28, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Looks like an idiot, if that’s him.


  5. Smith  October 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Interesting is their time of release. It is either election or something else. OBL (CIA agent) released the tape just when an election is to happen eg in US or in Germany. Another release time came this summer when US did not want to pay aid to their “ally” Pakistan for the floods and basically told the Pakistani government to raise taxes on flood affectees in order to help them, when Pakistan refused another OBL tape came out encouraging people of Pakistan to help themselves. And now this tape which has come when Sarkozy needed some breathing space because people of France were protesting additional slavery to pay for excesses of Zionist bankers. How convenient. Is n’t it?

  6. Equalizer  October 27, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    We need to establish that united front.

  7. Equalizer  October 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    The problem I’m having is that “average Jews” have become, or already were part of the Sayanim. The sayanim are stalkers and stalking is a crime. The sayanim has infiltrated everything, and I mean everything.

    Eustace Mullins warned that if the gentiles do not remain loyal to each other we will be easy targets for the sayanim. This is what’s happened to me. Betrayal. Many of the people I considered friends became stalkers, most likely to get their 30 pieces of silver or “brownie points”.

    Many of these people are “average jews” and christian zionists who I consider under mind-control.

    I believe the ADL is directly involved with this terror campaign against me. Why are criminals taking up residence in our U.S. Department of Justice? It is very curious that a study was done by the U.S. DOJ about stalking only a short time ago.

  8. Equalizer  October 27, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Stalking, bribery, extortion, attempted murder…these used to be crimes.

  9. mallee  October 27, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I have read most of Griffin’s books, he dah real man! (:-)

  10. OS--  October 27, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Someone once said, “You must understand the Big Picture”. Which is actually the “War on Terror”, but the misunderstanding is in spelling, and always misspelled? It’s the “War on TerrOILor”, and presently world wide, and other resources. It’s quite a large maze, in Middle East, in Asia moving east and west, South America, and Africa, etc. And no need to be concerned that someone’s building the largest military in known history, their also in “War on TerrOILor”. And players watching at top, well profit is their bottom line. Have you finished your Bunker? That’s all.

  11. Self  October 27, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Hmm, what about this latest Bin Laden tape?

    What about the Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb?


    I never understood much about Al-Qaida and watching The Power of Nightmares in contrast to what is commonly reported was inconsistent to say the least.

    I never did understand how the tapes continually surface yet no one is able to trace them back to OBL. It’s a shame the mainstream media never cares to even investigate if they are authentic or not and immediately deem them as coming straight from OBL’s mouth.

  12. Equalizer  October 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm


  13. Gordon Duff  October 27, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Not in Karachi.

  14. Ken A.  October 27, 2010 at 8:23 am

    majority does not bother.

  15. Michael J Volz  October 27, 2010 at 8:00 am

    That’s the way it works!


  16. Michael J Volz  October 27, 2010 at 7:56 am

    No, the jews are not like everyone else——; Judaism is not just “another faith”. Jews get other people to do their dirty work and then scapegoat them. (Bush and Obama , two prime examples).


  17. Penumbra  October 27, 2010 at 1:27 am


    Thanks, I try. However, when it comes to High School text books, you know as well as I do that Texas holds the apparent national monopoly on deciding what becomes the standard, and that has progressively been shown to be as little of substantive value as they can get away with whilst still claiming it to be a history text.

    Anything Gordon and I could produce, whilst likely educational, would never get past the ADL/AIPAC censors for starters.

  18. Miller  October 26, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    High 5!

  19. wolf  October 26, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    ..and people wonder why we’re pissed…

  20. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    My lucky day, pass the Thorazine! 🙂

  21. wolf  October 26, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    And don’t forget. TV spelled backwards is VT. Don’t settle for less than the truth.
    Kudos to Gordon and all of the VT staff for their efforts.

  22. wolf  October 26, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Damn Penumbra. You sure write good…
    Almost as good as Duff.
    I sometimes think you guys should collaborate on a book…maybe like a high school text book, like ‘The REAL History of the World’.

  23. jonathan mark  October 26, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    not so true.. perhaps they [Mossad] was used.. but those planning the deed were not all jewish.. or controlled by jews.. why do people have to show their own bias and to see/express through a narrow lens or focus?

    Check the film by John Hankey http://theDarkLegacy.com

    He shows hard evidence connecting the cover-up with George Bush Sr., and the history of his NAZI-financing father, who also helped corrupt the CIA following the 1947 National Security Act.

    Don’t give Israel so much power that they blind you from seeing and working with people of all faiths.. to stop terrorism and treason in the USA or wherever you live. The problem is within. If a religion is involved in this mess.. look for those who worship Satan or play the elitist game to the point of perversion.

    Also see this blog i posted
    John Hankey – 9/11 and JFK connection

    Anyway, the article more than many of these comments is why I posted it at my blog at 12160


    Thanks Gordon for your important investigative reporting.

  24. Equalizer  October 26, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    I’m declaring ya both 5150.

  25. Equalizer  October 26, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    hope springs eternal!

  26. Equalizer  October 26, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    …”converted to Christianity”…and “was a zealous supporter of Israel” is an oxymoron…

  27. Miller  October 26, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    OS, don’t go away. You’ve peaked my interest with a number of your comments. Sometimes I wish you’d give more information to make your clues more understandable, but we truly do value your input and your experience. You obviously know things that many of us are miles from having access to. It just seemed funny when you got on Penumbra’s case and called him clueless when he’s quite obviously brilliant and wise and a very nice seeming person. That’s all.

  28. OS--  October 26, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Reference 250-502 – Penumbra

  29. OS--  October 26, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    One is secret foreign weapons company that can easily take out satellites and drop networks at snap of finger. Couldn’t leave you stranded, bye.

  30. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    You have a problem with a demand for evidence? Shall we just believe things because they are stated as fact?

    If that’s the case then let’s just all turn on the TV and accept what Fox News, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc all claim to be so.

  31. Craig Pepe  October 26, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    another decent red flag for bull shit artists, and disinf agents of which there are MANY here is anyone that says

    “produce evidence”

    hopefully Gordon DUff and the moderators can decipher the bull shit artists from the sincere unlike 98% of message boards on the internet


  32. oh, I left one thing out..  October 26, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    thanks! and remember, NORAD had ‘2’ E4-B looking glass doomsday B-747’s circling over NYC and Arlington, VA. that day. Nobody brought those assholes up on HIGH TREASON charges yet.

    that’s where the whole 9/11 MOSSAD show was run from. Those two aircraft…caught on various videos, circling high above the pyrotechnic displays below.

    but you knew that, right? what you didn’t likely know is that they delayed the radar feeds of the North East Air Defense Sector, NEADS, by 26 seconds, so they could take out targets and re-inject the radar video without them, making any ad-hoc interception efforts an impossibility. That never happened with the radar feed before Sept. 11th., nor afterwards.

    so, the U.S. Military was involved in what took place on Sept. 11th., and we’re not talking passive roles. They were deeply involved in the MOSSAD plot to kill americans that day and blame it on 19 saudi arabian jihadists with box cutters.

    and that is TREASON.

  33. don't split yet, O.S.  October 26, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Hey O.S., don’t split yet. nobody wanted you to leave. hang in and don’t run out of here with your tail between your legs.

    gotta get a little thick skinned to hang around this gin joint. but it’s better than faux noize chunnel and not nearly as bad an aftertaste.

  34. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Henry Ford, “The International Jew” by Henry’s “The Dearborn Independent”

    An online book in English at: http://radioislam.org/ford/index.htm

  35. o1OpTiMuS1o  October 26, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Adam Pearlman changed to “Gadahn” the Jew Mossad Terrorist playing his role for Israel in deceiving the American Sheeple

    Gadahn was born Adam Pearlman, the son of musician Phil Pearlman. Gadahn’s —- Jewish —- paternal grandfather, Carl Pearlman, was a prominent urologist; and on the Board of Directors of the — Anti-Defamation League — but Gadahn’s father converted to Christianity and changed his name to “Gadahn”, derived from the name of the Biblical figure “Gideon”. According to Gadahn, he was a “zealous supporter” of Israel

  36. rachel  October 26, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    First you must understand there is a fraction in the Jewish community. Zionism and Judaism are NOT the same thing. At the core of Judaism is the same basic morals as in any other religion. Zionism (what Israel is at it’s core) is the basic belief that they have more rights to a region of land than the natives. (Not unlike the American concurring of Native Indian lands.)

    Theodore Hertzel introduced the theory of Zionism (The retrun of the ancient state of Israel) in the late 1800’s. For some Jews this was blasphemy for it went against the will of god while others (more hardcore Jews) found it to be a new form of Jewish nationalism. Much like German Nationalism under Hitler.

    If you notice Mr. Duff doesn’t say or use the word Jews but rather the State of Israel. when using Jews in reference he does connect them to the area he is talking about…such as the Jews of Israel.

    Unfortunately people assume Israel represents all Jews when in fact they represent a small fraction of Jewish extremist. Much like only a small fraction of Muslims represent Islamic extremist.

    The goal of the state of Israel is to make sure the rest of the world will not bother it while it commences ethnic cleansing in the land of Palestine. Which includes threaening every major city on the planet…and they have. The State of Israel is today’s Nazi Germany.

    Israel doesn’t represent the normal everyday Jews of the world. They are an extremist, racist, psychopathic regime whose only goal is to wipe out Palestine to restore a mythical state from a bible written thousands of years ago. They are the extremist and do not follow the torah or it’s principles in any way shape or form.

  37. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Even jewish morons KNOW THEY ARE OF THE TRIBE; whether they are askenazi, or sephardic, ; ordthodox, conservative or nonobservant ; law abiding or criminal; blond or black haired; gefilte fish eaters or barbeque ribs eaters————-They all know they are OF THE TRIBE.


    THAT is why Ariel Sharon did not define “who is a jew” when he said “we the jewish people control America, and they know it. If you need to split hairs about “who is jew”, you are not a moron; you are brain dead.


  38. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    You’re right. Old Abe and Hymie get a real charge out of the fact that jewish interests control America and they are always glad to help this all along even though they are not in charge of the operation and have broken no laws. It really feels good to know you are part of a superior race of people!


  39. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Ill send him a pair of 501s to make up for it. 😉

  40. Equalizer  October 26, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Brad, how’s the weather today in tel aviv?

  41. Equalizer  October 26, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    war crimes, thanks for telling it like it really is…

  42. Miller  October 26, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Sorry if I offended any 520’s out there, I meant to say “overly sensitive 502.”

  43. Miller  October 26, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Oh boy, I think you just 250’d the hell out of that overly sensitive 520. If you get my drift.

  44. de Vulcan  October 26, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Henry Ford built a car made of hemp! Flick shows big man with sledgehammer UN-able to make a dent in it!!The Zionist-jews are NOT semites but Khazars. They were kicked out of Eastern-Europe (Cauacasus) for their habit of constantly attacking their neighbours;(sounds familiar?),they CONVERTED to judaism but have no DNA of SEM,KAM or Jafet.Rotschild owns ALL national or Central banks in the world, save 7.

  45. Craig Pepe  October 26, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    I think I may have misunderstood the commenter Mallee

    if so sorry about that

  46. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    OS, I never laid claim to being privy to the sorts of informational sources Gordon and those in the “intelligence” community enjoy. My background is political and commercial. As for “real world”, you aren’t the only kid on the block who has lived and worked abroad.

    The difference between us, apparently, is that whilst I take time to discuss with others here to hopefully further avenues of understanding, you prefer to play the cryptic game. Whatever does it for you. Sh-t or get off the pot, as they say.

  47. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 11:37 am

    It seems you missed the point I was making above.

    As far as cowardice, I don’t consider ANYONE signing up to serve the military industrial complex and the corporate hegemonists – by helping to illegally invade other sovereign countries which never attacked us – as a sign of honor or character.

    In fact, with all the evidence readily available to those who take the time from their idiotic tv shows, video games and other diversionary pursuits to sit down and read, there is no excuse for those who do “suit up” to participate in these cyclical expeditionary war crimes. To do so is more a sign of flagrant ignorance or, in many cases, deep seated sociopathic desire to go harm/kill other people.

    If the battle were on our own soil, purely for the actual defense of our homes and loved ones and not, as they are, for the profit of the elite few, then you might have a valid case.

  48. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Not very Christian of you Craig. Perhaps you should reread Mallee’s comments.

  49. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Ken, “lesser brethren” is in quotes precisely because that is what Zionists have labeled them, not myself. They are “lesser” precisely because they do not sign on to the “agenda” of the Frankists, but like the vast majority of goyim simply go about their lives oblivious to the machinations operating at the highest levels of decision making.

    In that regard we are ALL equally guilty of not establishing a united front against the ongoing crimes in our name, regardless of ethnic or religious affiliations.

    Those of us like yourself who speak out are yet but a small minority and we fight a constant battle against brain numbing pablum of mass media with which the majority are bombarded minute by minute, day by day, 365 days a year.

  50. OS  October 26, 2010 at 11:08 am


    One last thing, this means something “250”, and this means something “502”, the bigger problem is one or the other. Research that? and good luck..once again the real world. Maybe if you have friend at CIA they will explain. Or maybe you’ll never know? Bye.

  51. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Wow, seems our cryptic friend took my comments as a slight against him. Such was not my intention actually. So research is of no value, eh? I suppose we should all read the comics and hope for illumination magically through cosmic osmosis then.

    FYI OS, I have “been there” at table with world leaders and with some hefty war profiteers in my day. All that and 5 cents still wont buy you a cup of tea in China, as they say. Without serious digging, the dots aren’t often connected as to what is going on behind the scenes, between the lines and away from the public spotlight.

    I could only wish what I know is a fantasy, it’d be far less depressing.

  52. Ken A.  October 26, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Ready to check out of the human race.


    Guantanamo-“Child Soldier“ Convicted: No Confession, Rather, an Agreement

    24 year old terror suspect Omar Khadr confessed to all crimes with which he is accused, on 26 Oct. at Guantánamo Bay, before a military tribunal.

    But that is not a confession. But rather it was coerced by an agreement for a reduced sentence. He need only!! serve 8 more years.

    Khadr was 15 years old when he was captured in Afghanistan. (2002!!!)

    He was accused of being a member of Al Qaeda. During a gunfight in Afghanistan, he supposedly killed a US soldier with a hand grenade. He was nearly fatally wounded, as well. The crime is based on the consideration that he was not officially a soldier, and thus not qualified to handle the grenade. Hence, he was accused of being a war criminal.

    (but it is ok to slaughter en masse, civilians, if one is qualified. Sick.)

    (Obama said ok, as he was given a right to reduced sentence.)

    Have translated rest of article here.


  53. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 10:29 am

    To all VT readers:

    Larry’s source on his statement that I am a “brown shirt (nazi)” and “pure malice”: his “friend in South Africa”. This is a perfect example of why I believe Larry A Dickerstein works for the DEFAMATION LEAGUE.

    Regarding Larry’s statement that I am an “antisemite”: his source is himself. When you are in the DEFAMATION business, it is usually best to quote someone else so Larry came up with his “friend in South Africa” ruse.

    Larry calls for “civility” and no “name calling” while he dishes it out himself aplenty.

    As far as I’m concerned, L.A.D. is “PURE DEFAMATION” and he hopes no one on this site will notice when he makes a low blow at one person at a time.

    For those who are new to this site, go back and read everything Larry has said ——it is a good case study on how a shill/troll operates on the internet.


  54. Miller  October 26, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Hear that Penumbra? You’ve been officially outed by OS as “Clueless”. All I can say to that is, if you’re clueless what must he think of the rest of us? 🙂

  55. brother  October 26, 2010 at 10:12 am

    I got to know some Iranians who left Iran at the time of the revolution who settled in Calif. They were Bahais and I learned about the Bahai Faith from them. The bahai faith IS the New World Order/One World Order religion. They preach diversity, equality, globalism, one money system, one language, no borders. They preach the elimination of races through race-mixing though I noticed they didn’t practice race-mixing themselves but married other Iranians. This was about 20 years ago and at the time I knew nothing about the jewish conspiracy and thought it all sounded pretty good.

    These “refugees” were a privileged class under the shah, affluent and educated yet love to talk about how “persecuted” they are.

    It’s so obvious to me now as I look back these poor little persecuted refugees were crypto jews. Who else would be a privileged affluent class under a despot and able to get out with all their wealth. The reason we keep hearing about how there is only a very small jewish community in Iran is because all the jews left wearing the mask of Muslim and Bahai.

  56. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Carroll Quigley in his book “Tragedy and Hope” clearly supports my statement that “if you don’t believe in conspiracies, you know nothing about history”.

    Larry never comments on the source even though he is always asking for reliable sources. Quigley is irrefutable.


  57. Michael J Volz  October 26, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Larry never refutes or offers new info; He only defames others.
    Nobody is culpable for any major crimes , according to Larry.


  58. Gordon Duff  October 26, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Editorial comment: In the long run, maintaining an “internet community” like this one falls to those who post, not those who moderate. In my case, I head the editorial board, write and do …more than a small amount of other stuff..most of it meaningless, of course.
    This place should be inclusive. We attract trolls and shills, idiots who don’t belong among humans but the humans here are often not very nice to one another.
    Back in the 90s when the similar group….including some of our writers….were on AOL….some are no longer with us….I mean dead…we used to talk by phone….even vacation together.
    What has changed?

  59. Gordon Duff  October 26, 2010 at 9:50 am

    He seems to have a problem with reality.
    There is no reason for someone who receives nothing but scorn to stay. Eventually, some evidence of illness arises. Then they go or i expunge them.

  60. Gordon Duff  October 26, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Moderating..it isn’t as though we don’t care but everyone here has a job of some kind. The editors jump online at work…or even edit while driving and texting. We are going to lose one like that some day, especially considering….


  61. Ken Rechtstein  October 26, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Sorry, erratum above. Correct reading is: “unless what you call ‘the lesser brethren’ stand up…

  62. OS  October 26, 2010 at 9:27 am


    I though this website was where veterans could at least come and discuss our experiences and concerns, especially working abroad. As we do what’s necessary to protect those still serving abroad, especially in these troubling times. Yet, I find this environment not good for expressing these concerns, maybe there’s a group of ten or more that enjoy speaking with each other on daily basis, while others need not attend. It reminds me of the mainstream media, where few can express their views. I’ve had too many bad experiences while working abroad where ones life is at great risk. It’s sad when many Americans don’t understand these situations, as if a joke. But that’s OK. Not necessary to reply, I won’t be back.

    I like your website, and Good Luck.

  63. brother  October 26, 2010 at 9:23 am

    I read the internet and listen to radio shows. I’ve been hearing that Americans “in the know” and with the means to do so have left the US or have plans to leave soon. The warmongering about Iran is a deception, a diversion to keep people looking in the wrong direction. The country that is the real target is the US. A repeat of the “Russian” (jewish) Revolution where over 60 million White Russians (Orthodox Christians) were killed so the jews could take over. The talk about “another 911” is propaganda. It’s going to be a complete takeover of the US using financial collapse/race war/terrorist attack as pretext for imposition of martial law and soviet-style police state. The necessary instruments of state oppression (NKVD/DHS, gulags/fema camps) already set up.

  64. Ken Rechtstein  October 26, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Excellent metaphore Rachel. It made me smile ‘nd think about NYT’s Op Editor Maureen Dowd: Same powerful punch delivered in just a couple of words.

  65. OS  October 26, 2010 at 7:51 am


    It was about your last leader passing sensitive technology to the wrong country, no dam wonder Americans are confessed. Your so busy in your fantasy world, you have no ideal what is happening in real world.

    Your absolutely clueless! No Dam wonder we had 911~!


  66. OS  October 26, 2010 at 7:16 am

    Research, uh…do you think I’m talking about research? Facts, because I was there and apparently in the wrong place now. I get my information in the real world, you can live in your dream world.

    Good Bye. for…good…

  67. Taz  October 26, 2010 at 7:12 am


    What is the policy for dealing with blatant lying sacks of doo-doo like Shirin? Do you block her at first or do you make her look like a silly ass before doing so?


  68. Ken Rechtstein  October 26, 2010 at 6:59 am

    =>(errance), we still have not learnt how to live honestly with the Arabs, then we will merit all that might befall us” (citet from memory, the wording might have been different… but not the contentent conveyed). He was prophetic. Just subtitute the word ‘Arab’ by ‘Goyim’ and it applies to todays picture-situation of a Worldwide encompassing MAFIA backed by un WMD armed Rogue State, with imbedded agents in USA-EU, who have hijacked its GOV. financial institution-foreign policy-political-cultural life

  69. Ken Rechtstein  October 26, 2010 at 6:33 am

    Penumbra, Unless members of what you call: “The lesser brethren” do not STAND UP and take CONCRETE ACTION as to tell the AIPAC-ADL-JAC-WJC-LIKUD-BEITENU-CADIMA-MOSSAD-IDF-SHIN BE’T-FED-WAILING WALL STREET,etc.: “NOT IN OUR NAME”, they are guilty by OMISSION. No rationale or ‘circonstances atténuantes’, like ‘misinformed’ can be used to exculpate anyone for not speaking up against ‘n actively fighting the ZionTalmudicMafia. Einstein, wrote in a letter 2 Weissman (1929):”If, after 2000 of errance, ==>

  70. Taz  October 26, 2010 at 6:23 am

    I wonder about all the beheadings that were blamed on the various insurgents. What really happened:

    ‘US troops beheaded Iraqi detainee’ 25 Oct 2010 American forces decapitated an Iraqi last year on the order of their higher-up, show recently-exposed US military documents. The troops operated under the command of an unnamed US major, who had been involved in the rape of an Iraqi female, showed one such document posted on the whistleblower website WikiLeaks. The incident took place after the victim, the brother of the raped female, reportedly killed a military official in reprisal for the indecent assault. To enable the May incident in the city of Haditha of the western Iraq province of Al Anbar, the major said he was undertaking the transfer of two prisoners, including the victim. [Where are the war crimes trials, Obusha?]

  71. Erica Stuart  October 26, 2010 at 2:32 am

    Gordon: any chance Gen. Petraeus will read this, he has been fuming over the problem cause by Israeli activities on the troops and the war.

  72. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 2:27 am

    Quite a few of us are aware of the Rothschilds, OS. You need to follow the discussions more often. They’ve been pointed out time and again. As for your X-company (Xe), their corruption and participation in the crimes against humanity and covert operations has also not gone unnoticed by those of us who actually research.

  73. Penumbra  October 26, 2010 at 2:21 am

    Democrats are just as much on board with the killing and looting. It’s an “oligarchy” thing, not a “left-right” thing. In the halls of power and in the backrooms were the deals are signed and the spoils divided up, there is and never was any Left Wing/Right Wing, just clever con men able to sell a fraudulent dialect to a wholly misinformed and gullible public.

    As I have said before and will continue to say it until “it sticks”, the only divide is that between the top 1% stealing all the wealth and the 99% from whom they are stealing it. Simple as.

    Alors, ou est ma guillotine?

  74. Brad Pierce  October 26, 2010 at 2:16 am

    I think that is the Aryans European Private Banking propaganda and tactics to destroy the stable, good relationship of US and Israel.

  75. Craig Pepe  October 26, 2010 at 1:39 am

    Gordon Duff, u dah man

    I see the bull shit artists have come like vultures to this article,
    burn in hell mallee

    http://www.cpepe-shortstories.blogspot.com <—righteousness/truth/justice seeking blog

    again, Gordon Duff, u dah man

  76. mallee  October 26, 2010 at 1:27 am


    Kindly produce the authority that supports your claim that Bin Laden was shown celebrating on TV.

    By the way, ‘also’ a few Mossad madmen were ‘celebrating’ the murder of US and international citizens in the towers; Just search ‘9/11 5 (or 3) dancing Israelis’. Don’t forget to see the two brother on Israeli TV saying that they were there to ‘document’ the event.

    For some more fun go to ae911truth.org and watch a few Richard Gage videos and the David Chandler ones. When you have done that, put your name on the petition for a new investigation, you will feel much happier (and smarter) when informed.

  77. jon jon  October 26, 2010 at 1:21 am

    try doing something about it for a change …….as much as the yanks like to slam the frogs at least they are doing aomething about their sit …..you yanks on the other hand are doing nothing ecept cry like fnnnn babys DO SOMETHING OR SHUT THE F UP

  78. mallee  October 26, 2010 at 1:13 am

    For serious Americans, especially lawyers, concerned about your democracy (and the world’s) read David Ray Griffin’s book: ‘Cognitive Infiltration; an Obama appointee’s plan to undermine the 9/11 conspircay theory.’ {Olive Branch Press. 2010]

    Professor Cass Sunstein, formerly of Harvard Law School. (no joke!) (‘The appointee’) (from the back cover of the book). Sunstein ..”………had in 2008 co-authored an article containing a plan for the government to prevent the spread of anti-government ‘conspiracy theories’ in which he advocated the use of anonymous governmentt agents to engage in ‘cognitive infiltration’ of these groups in order to break them up….’

    Sunstein says that such government conspiracies are rare but Griffin cites (only) 17 examples, commencing on page 12. He also lists further events from ‘project censored’ to demonstrtae that Sunstein is incorrect.

    Griffin cites John Stossel, [at page viii] commenting on Sunstein;

    “This [Sunstein’s paper] reads like an ONION article: Powerful government official proposes to combat paranoid conspircay groups that believe the government is out to get them….by proving that they are really are out to get them”.

    Need I say more? Griffin goes on to dissect one of America’s alleged great Legal minds, slice by slice in a ‘satirical’ manner that is quite hilarious. You will get the gist of what Griffin is saying: being that Sunstein could not be serious in an exocteric way but must be writing in a esoteric manner. In other words, Sunstein surely could not be so stupid and Sunstein actually means the opposite to what he writes.

    Send this comment off to a lawyer now, it is about time the lawyer’s started thinking about their duty to the public, being also to protect them against the illegal machinations of the people’s government.

    Gordon: you will love it, we look forward to your assessment.

    Larry; soak it up, lay down and die, you lose.

  79. OS  October 25, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    “Rothschilds (RED SHIELD) gang in London”, my experience around the globe suggest you are correct. I understood the many of the persons in the US, but many things were pointing to UK as well. Allot of cover-ups were being rolled into businesses in the above stated, I was wondering when someone else would be aware of this as well.

    Remember the thing G.B. was involved in Asian country? And later X-Company was formed for big deal in middle of (2007), UK Corporation bought the X-Company to cover-up in (2008). I am certain this was planned in advance.

  80. Smith  October 25, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Shirin is a second or third generation Iranian who is fantasizing the last Shah of Iran, very typical of Iranians living in California. Anyways, they are like Chalabi of Iraq waiting for their turn to rule Iran once uncle Sam put them in power there. All her talk about Iran and mullahs are very typical propaganda used by these groups funded by US tax payers in various names and shapes which dot US map and convene regular conferences in expensive hotels. Alas she will never tell you that under pro-Israeli Shah most of Iranian women were kept illiterate and Iran’s contribution to world scientific and technologic production was 0.0003% while today girl education is universal in Iran, most university students are female and Iran in addition of producing 1.2% of world’s total scientific output has the world’s fastest growth rate in science and technology.
    The lot of Shirin are no democracy lovers. They are monarchists or worse they are MKO commies who were aligned with Saddam. All they wish day and night is for US boys to go in and invade Iran and hand it over to them for ruling, of course they will not admit it here that it is the US boys who are to be killed and maimed while these Shirin lot are cowards who can never fight. In fact when Iran was under attack by Saddam this lot had escaped to US and EU in order to be away from fighting, that is their level of morality, they had left their motherland in order to save themselves and their ill gotten wealth. Do not get fooled by her, some one whose lot was not kind to the land they were born and the blood they were bred in is not loyal to the land they chose either. Her allegations are very similar to the media frenzy created by big fives of industry. Carter brought revolution is their favorite line. Little they know that Carter did his best to keep Shah in power alas Shah was dying and had lost control. He had cancer anyways and would have died regardless of whether revolution would have happened or not. There was no one competent to rule Iran at the time, Shah’s son was merely 17 years old and the queen did not have any political experience or legal standing to rule Iran. Revolution was bound to succeed in such atmosphere, US army did send in a general to help organize a military government but it was deemed too risky. Youtube: “the man who changed the world” and “Saddam Hussein: the trial you will never see”

  81. Ken A.  October 25, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    Some True historical facts:

    “while soldiers were the cannon fodder for the Allies and the Axis powers, their big banks, corporations were in covert partnerships. In Germany, Italy and Spain, Ford, GM. Standard Oil, Dupont, Union Carbide, Dow Chemicals, Westinghouse, GE, IBM, the Bank of New York and the famous Bank of International Settlements had close financial and business dealings with Germany’s Thyssen, Krupps, IG Farben conglomerates along with German banks who in fact bank-rolled the Nazi Party.”



  82. OS  October 25, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    I can believe people don’t know they exist, an example. One (–) appoints family and other members into top positions throughout their corporate branches; one family member within this (–) doesn’t want appointed position because of their business practices. Thereafter, they are blacklisted by corporate branches, and they no longer do business with this person. In fact, the family considers them an outcast, because of no loyalty to the (–). I have observed this practice at top levels, and this outcast was professor of interest. Without the branches built throughout time the House of Rothschilds has no power. You can’t have power without a loyal army, it doesn’t work that way?

  83. REY  October 25, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    RESEARCH AND LEARN : http://www.ifamericansknew.org
    PEACE ( because war is a racket)

  84. OS  October 25, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Control and loyalty over time.

  85. W  October 25, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    We just got to keep catapulting the cacadoody and most folks will believe it! Just ask Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, and the other clowns. They’ll tell ya most of it will stick. Osama bin Shish-kabob and crew are out to destroy our freedoms to watch porn and Monday Nite Football!

  86. Aart van Wijngaarden  October 25, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Mistake in my earlier message, of course all people from Holland can write and speak Dutch, but I meant English. Stupid mistake from me.

  87. Aart van Wijngaarden  October 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Again an excellent article, Gordon, like all your articles. Sometimes I translate your articles into Dutch, this time I put it not translated, in English, on my website, as most people from Holland can speak and write Dutch. It is very important that the real truth is coming out. Most people don’t understand what influence jews have in the media and how they manipulate everything.

  88. wolf  October 25, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”

    –Albert Einstein

  89. wolf  October 25, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    “…those buildings were destroyed as a direct result of the planes crashing into the two towers. The evidence for this is clear and convincing.”

    So do you mean that the impact of the planes hitting the towers brought them down?…Or do you mean that the heat resulting from the hydrocarbon fires of burning jet fuel, office furniture, and etc melted the structural steel…or somehow compromised its structural integrity? Fires such as this do not burn at a temperature hot enough to melt steel. No steel frame building in history has EVER collapsed from fire. The WTC towers were built like brick shthouses. They were designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707. Besides, a collapse of this nature would be asymmetrical and not seemingly controlled to fall straight down.

    What about the 47 story WTC7? No plane hit it…and yet it collapsed neatly into its own footprint at nearly freefall speed…as if its structural supports had been yanked out from under it. Watch the video clip. Not to mention that in an interview, Lucky Larry Silverstein revealed that he was involved in the decision to “pull it” that day. “Pull it” is an expression often used by controlled demo experts to describe what they do. The building was wired for controlled demo…there is NO doubt. And if WTC7 was wired for demo, then ALL the buildings were.

  90. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    not ALL, Equilizer.

    My own sister in law is neither religious nor does she, to my knowledge, congregate with any others, but is married to a Gentile and lives a simple life, struggling along like the rest of us.

    Remember, the very reason the Zionist Party cohorts of the Nazis instigated public backlashes against German Jews in the first place was precisely because so few wanted anything to do with Zionism, which they viewed as fringe radical extremists. In their day, most were comfortably integrated and considered themselves Germans, just as Iranian Jews consider themselves Iranian and want no part of continual attempts by Israel to entice them to emigrate. Same case with the Iraqi Jews of the 1950’s who had to be bombed by Zionist agent provocateurs (with concurrent propaganda claiming the attacks to be the work of the Iraqi authorities) in order to compel their emigration.

    Zionists are no friend of “the lesser brethren”, they merely want their warm bodies in Israel to use as justification for stealing more land from the rightful Palestinian inhabitants.

    Lets try to keep the terms of the debate focused on organized, ideological Jewry (which includes the Sayanim as well) and not presume ALL average Jews guilty by association. Most are just misinformed like their gentile counterparts.

  91. Miller  October 25, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Larry, I have yet to see you factually refute anything you’ve read in any of the articles that have appeared on this site. You have surely had ample time to do your own investigation of much of the information you’ve been exposed to, since as you point out so much of it is undocumented and unreliable. I’m waiting to see you document the counter arguments that would justify your continued disbelief of what you’ve read here. I’m not referring to hate messages which I agree are not warranted.

  92. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Actually Larry, use of the indoctrinated mantra “conspiracy theorist” which rolls of the lips of the vast majority when confronted with pertinent factual information that diverges from the mainstream messages bombarding us daily (and most often without any shred of evidence to substantiate them) is the surest sign of a “closed mind”.

    Those who draw the biggest ire here and anywhere you find those who are taking their time to attempt to open people’s eyes to the truth (that is often stranger than fiction) behind the machinations of our globalist system, are those who pop on-scene with immediate accusations of “conspiracy theory” or somesuch obvious media-received dismissals. Such people offer nothing to the discussion and merely seek to troll worn out and discredited populist bunk as if it has any value.

    I again point back to your own claim of having had your assumptions shown to be false from a previous VT article. I suggest you dig in and do the research to carry you further down that road. No it’s not a heartwarming exercise and it doesn’t bring happiness, but if you want bliss then remain uninformed, simple as.

    For my part, I choose to know the motivations and mechanisms used by the principal elites (concerning whom the public is NOT provided adequate information in the mainstream) and their agents to progress their agenda and how they manipulate perceptions to divert the attention of the majority away from any inkling of the need to investigate.

    Whether you like or not, FEW are informed to any significant degree and it has nothing to do with IQs or education, merely the critical rationale to understand that one is being denied the necessary information and intellectual enquiry to seek it out. The vast majority don’t bother.

    The path you follow is yours to choose, choose wisely.

  93. wolf  October 25, 2010 at 9:06 pm


  94. Interesting  October 25, 2010 at 9:03 pm


    There you go again planting “key words” into these comment sections and attempting to push things to an extreme, this easily detected. I’m not against any people(s), but pursuing other information regarding previous events that were not properly investigated and reported to American people(s). I consider this a good website and have respect for the author, as many other veterans with concerns regarding the future of our country.

    The purposes of these comment section(s) are to provide some open debate, “free speech”, and share various ideals from people(s) around the world. The debate is the “interest”, the “ideals”, and “reference” to articles that provide insight to people so they can make their own decisions.

    My comment to you in previous article was reference to your desire to plant “key words” in comment sections and manipulate to extreme. I am aware of this practice, and people who force things to an extreme because they disagree. Quote, “I am positive the FBI maintains a close watch”, that’s the work of propaganda person telling people to avoid the website. You really are inexperienced, stated again.

    You were criticized for this practice, and now once again taking things to an extreme. Why do you practice this manipulation?

  95. Lawrence A Dickerson  October 25, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I can see some but not all.There uis still a great deal of conspiracy theories out there and a great many are used here by commentors as gospel truth.The silliness is the hate messages that pour out of the veins of some people and if anyone dares to resist they are labled as shills,MFs and assholes.Tell mea again who is ridiculous when a person is not free to express their own opinions as each of you do with imnpunity.You guys brow beat any disasenters.I hasver news for ya’all.Not everything yuo say is one hundred percent accurate.

    How is it possible that so few state that only they have the truth and all others are blinds SOBs,brainwashed by whomever?The people with closed minds are the major participants on these threads.

  96. allovertheplace  October 25, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    That was the most awesome article I have ever read.

    Thank you so much, Gordon, with all sincerity…

    Please run for political office (not that I want to see you get killed, but us saved)

    Your friend,

  97. Equalizer  October 25, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Larry, did you take your meds today?

  98. Equalizer  October 25, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    rob, black is white. “I am a Muslim” is “I am a Jew”.

  99. Equalizer  October 25, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    …”fully integrating”…

    this is simply NOT true. jews congregate and do NOT assimilate.

  100. Equalizer  October 25, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Larry, you’re reverting back…

  101. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    correction: (scratch one “game”), “….strawman argument game anew.”

  102. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Simply because the highest order doesn’t leave telltale evidence such as names on group membership rosters, OS.

    Why would powerful dynasties like the Rothschilds have need of Masonic, B’nai B’rith membership when those at discernable head of such utilitarian organizations can just as easily be paid operatives/agents colluding amongst themselves off the record singularly and reporting back to their ultimate taskmaster(s) in the same manner.

    One would have to literally stalk each verified secret society officer/chief day to day to see where he/she went and to whom they spoke/met with, etc.

    Taking a wide angle approach provides more than sufficient corroborative, if only circumstantial in some cases, evidence of likely personages behind the topmost tiers of the Power Elite.

  103. Equalizer  October 25, 2010 at 7:06 pm


  104. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Larry, you surprise me with this silliness.

    Just the other week you were admitting to finally getting the wind knocked out of your lifelong presumptions in the comments section of another VT article, and now you are playing the mainstream media strawman argument game game anew.

    Curious dichotomy at work.

  105. OS  October 25, 2010 at 6:38 pm


    You captured my attention with Masonic Organizations, and wrote some comments requiring various branches. I know of this activity, but it’s difficult to trace their infrastructure to the top, just branches as mentioned earlier. It does not require much research to detect branches, and trace members and who is appointed into positions of interest. The problem is identifying the highest order of the hierarchy.

  106. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    You know that the planes took down the towers….
    and how is that?
    Did someone tell you that?
    Did you read it somewhere?
    Readers digest?
    Popular Mechanics?

  107. Lawrence A Dickerson  October 25, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    News Flash!

    UFO sightings and close encounters are all a Jewish Mossad operation designed to install fear in the gullible and naive of the world.The premise behind the propaganda efforts is to instill a NWO mentality so as to be psychologically prepared when Israel takes over the world.Area 51 is nothing but a top secret Zionist stronghold where by design all research and implementation procedures are
    developed and tested.The Messiah will reveal himself from this holy place.

  108. Jim Brundage  October 25, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    I find these reports interesting; however, I am skeptical about many of the claims alleged in these news reports. I do not doubt the sincerity of the BBC journalists and many of the individual shown. I know that there has been false reports made by many people. I think that it has been well established that George W. Bush and his inner circle were dishonest in some of the information that they spread in order to justify the invasion of Iraq.

    But let us be fair. There has been false information spread by many individuals on all sides of the dispute between the Muslim extremeists and Christian leaders. This makes it impossible for far away individuals like myself to accurately determine the truth of the various claims.

    I have no direct, first hand knowledge of Bin-Ladin’s involvement or non-involvement in 9/11. Likewise, I have no way of determining whether Bin-Ladin is dead or alive.

    I do know for a fact that 9/11 did happen; one plane struck each of the two towers of the World Trade Center and those buildings were destroyed as a direct result of the planes crashing into the two towers. The evidence for this is clear and convincing. Likewise, I know for a fact that one plane did crash into the Pentegon at about the same time that the planes crashed into the World Trade Center. I know for a fact that there was a fourth plane crash at about the same time in Pennslysyvania.
    I cannot believe that these events were accidents or coincidences.

    Logically, there must have been a conspiracy that planned and executed the 9/11 attacks. The only people shown on TV celebrating the 9/11 attacks immediately after the news of the events of 9/11 hit the news media were Osama Bin Ladin and his associates. Therefore, it is reasonable to SUSPECT that Bin Ladin and/or his associates played a role in this conspiracy. (Please understand the distinction that SUSPECT does not necessarily equal PROVE!)

    I believe that we must request that all available evidence be made available to determine the validity of claims made in the above videos as well as evidence to substantiate or refute the claims made by investigators that initially determined that 9/11 was directed by bin Ladin and/or his associates.

    There are too many contradictory allegations being made on these topics. It is time for an impartal investigation to review the evidence and determine the truth — whatever that truth actually is!

  109. Lawrence A Dickerson  October 25, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    @ Shirin:

    Stand your ground.I have been reading this web site for a year now and have basically been commenting here and there.My main observation is that this small group attacks anybody who dares to disagree with them.name calling and insults to one’s intelligence and genital size is quite common.

    Take a gander at the number of views on any subject published and the numbers world wide are small.A small home town newspaper receives a wider distribution.I am positive that the FBI maintains a close watch on the contributors and their call to arms to correct perceived wrongs.

    Don’t get me wrong,there are excellent contributions made here but there are also examples ofwhat makes the human race dispicable at times.Watch the fire this draws.Maybe you can take a break.Intelligent discussion and debate are not these people’s strong points.

  110. rob  October 25, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Maybe its not Zionist Jews? Just a group who want to use present Zionist Jews as the enemy? Why? Because this would enable the actual criminal to deflect attention away from them, to make it appear that it is just a bunch of anti-jew, fanatics?

    I am a Muslim, and I have seen some of the anti-jew arguments above, used against Muslims and Islam, and I know they are false, so is it not possible that they are also false when deployed against jews? (arguments like jews hate non jews, consider them to be cattle put on earth to serve the chosen jews etc, or to kill the cattle with impunity).

  111. JZ  October 25, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    This fits in so well…..


  112. Ken Rechtstein  October 25, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    In 1965 I was 20, I then had the opportunity, during nearly 6 months, to share some subjects/classes at the ‘École Nationale des Sciences Géographiques’ in Paris with a Col. ‘n a LtCol. from the Iranian Army. Both were twice my age, well educated-fluent in English-French. I managed to get to ‘meals-coffee sharing-talking level’ w. them. There began my interesse f. Iran. Shirin might be 2nd generation of a numerous diaspora of well off Iranians, who emigrated 2 USA-GB-Egypt, when Reda Pahlevi was ousted.

  113. Patrick Sullivan  October 25, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    The Zimmermann Telegram (or Zimmermann Note; German: Zimmermann-Depesche; Spanish: Telegrama Zimmermann) was a 1917 diplomatic proposal from the German Empire to Mexico to make war against the United States. The proposal was declined by Mexico, but angered Americans and led in part to the declaration of war in April.

    The Zimmermann Telegram was intercepted and decoded by the British cryptographers of Room 40.[2] The revelation of its contents in the American press on March 1 caused public outrage that contributed to the United States’ declaration of war against Germany and its allies on April 6.


  114. speaking of THYSSEN KRUP  October 25, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    First, before I get into the real reason for the post, the discussion thread here has been very good. It reflects that by far the majority of us are ‘awake’ and not buying the propaganda and lies, but seeing how evil and diabolical the Israeli regime has been, and to the same extent, the U.S. treasonous government that took lives on Sept. 11, 2001, and perhaps is responsible for a majority of the killing on this globe for a very very long time (it’s whole existence, as a matter of fact!).

    In any case, THYSSEN KRUP is now in the ELEVATOR BUSINESS. I saw one of their trucks, with the BIOHAZARD symbol, only in black, with a sweeping arch over that, as their corporate symbol. How nice. Death merchants now making elevators. It’s ironic that the majority of America has no clue how much of a role the Bush clan played in the THYSSEN KRUP war machine’s rise, in it’s finances with it’s banks, and in the global extermination, for profit, of people who had no clue that this was all for the Rothschilds (RED SHIELD) gang in London. How tragic that is.


  115. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Oh shirin,

    You are so full of indoctrinated falsehoods it hurts.

    Do some real research for a change and open your eyes. The groups you cite are the true defenders of justice against generations-long consolidated Zionist lies and violent onslaught.

    What you wish to perceive as hate in order to insulate your false assumptions from introspection and well documented historical fact, we who have made the effort to become informed understand to be righteous indignation against a profitable wall of lies and deceit spanning decades and continents.

    Maybe one day you’ll awaken from your stupor. Doubtful but possible.

  116. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    The “big banks” that financed the Nazis…such as Brown Brothers and “City of London” were all underwritten by the Rothschilds.

  117. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Not a convenient place for discussion..but you will find readers here with more than adequate background. Behind the rhetoric, there is also much decency here….behind the anger also.

  118. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Read the email I sent u.
    i was with our government during this period. it wasn’t just carter…there was a deal on the table to return khomeni to iran from france…yes..oil companies were part of it…and our french friends
    as for israel
    and the jews
    greatness come from the soul..and israel needs some saving…
    as does america
    both may be lost
    the minor muslim movements and petty dictatorships are a sideshow.

  119. Shirin  October 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Mr. Duff,

    First, I’m not writing to create “fun” for you. You should have enough “fun” with your gang.

    Are you aware that the 98% of Iranians who do not support the mullahs “know” that Jimmy Carter, knowingly or unknowingly, helped the oil companies to remove the Shah? Now, the Shah was a very good friend of America. You want to tell me that Carter was truly an idiot?

    Whatever misery has befallen us, all our dead and wounded troops, all the billions of dollars of our money spent in the past 30 years, we owe to Jimmy Carter. Wherever the man goes, he brings misery to the people and he really believes he is doing the work of God. He should just stay here and build homes for the needy.

  120. Shirin  October 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    To both TJ Bronco and C:

    Oh, you think you are all knowing. You think I don’t know great people who were raised as Muslims? The best of them. What does this have to do with militant/political Islam that includes Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, Iranian mullahs, the Muslim Brotherhood (the Nazi accomplices), or the Wahabi Saudis?

    I don’t hate Palestinians. They have been the victims of PLF, PLPF, PLO, run by George Habash, Yasser Arafat and the like since 1961. Don’t take me there because I’d have to teach you the history of the Middle East and that would take a long time. Instead of writing nonsense on this website, go and read a whole bunch of history books to learn how the Palestinian people have been victims of their so-called Arab brethren for the past 50 years, including when King Hussein of Jordan ordered the killing of nearly 200,000 of them inside the refugee camps in Jordan.

    I am not a fear monger. People like me have been trying to tell “useless idiots” like you what’s creeping up on us. Just take a look at Europe. We haven’t felt it quite yet because we are far and very large. But the tyranny of ignorance and dictatorship of Islam is creeping up and is forcing us to accept it, rubbing our own Constitution in our faces.

    You talk about “Abu Graib”. A few soldiers stepped way out of line and did something that once discovered, the military court-marshalled them for. Let’s try the governments that have LAWS that actually PRESCRIBE such behavior. Those governments, without exception, are Muslim extremist governments.

    My knowledge does not come from cable news. I know yours comes from the nonsense of conspiracy theorists. So, go get a life and be useful to your community.

  121. Shirin  October 25, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    To both Penumbra and Mr. Duff:

    As if I did not know before, now I can prove that whatever you write on this website in a lie. You are no different than the devil himself, like the mullahs in Iran who burned down a movie theater, locking the doors to over 300 innocent people and continually blamed the Shah’s secret service for doing it so as to agitate the people even more. That is your modus operandi. I know for a fact that I am not connected to the Israeli government or as you say the “propagandists” in any shape, form, or manner. Unlike you, I would not exchange the truth with all the money in the world.

    You can continue to brainwash some people and blame a single group of people for any misery that befalls you. Unless you find and fight the evil of hate, greed, and ignorance inside yourselves, you are doomed to point the finger outside of yourselves and forever spin in the whirlwind of ignorance.

    You are really not worth my time. I cannot change you. You will have to experience the truth for yourself, no matter how painful, before you can change.

  122. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 1:07 pm


    Those many Jews who have no personal ideological motives are nonetheless, like the bulk of their Gentile counterparts, subject to primary and secondary Western educations and a lifetime of mass media brainwashing on such subject as the holohoax and major false flag events. They are therefore as subject to cognitive dissonance and denial (even in the face of concrete evidence to the contrary) as anyone.

    However, remember too that those Jews who are religious will also be bombarded with a particular historic narrative that has served to strengthen a particular group identity (similar to that which “Evangelical Christians” are subject in many denominations thanks to the corrupting influence of the Scofield Reference Bible sham beginning in the 19th Century).

    This makes the task of awakening people to the true historical facts all the harder because not only must we pierce the personal assumptions of such people, but also the group assumptions in which they have taken refuge. It is the difference between addressing only a set of loosely held intellectual assumptions and those held by heartfelt conviction. The latter will always be the tougher challenge.

  123. Ken A.  October 25, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    The key would be (subjunctive) to connect the truth with the potential damage from ignoring it. Remarkably, they don’t, or can’t, and won’t.

    You are what you are. Fat or skinny. In the brain.

    Because of this, the US “material” standard will drastically shrink, adjust to a new level. It is on the way. No recovery. But the human is infinitely malleable, and the outcome could be very positive. People were actually far more decent towards one another in the Great Depression, for example.

  124. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Indeed, foo.

    However, quite apart from the possible numerological significance of the date, which may indeed be a telling element, one need only examine the actions of Kennedy leading up to his assassination (and those of his brother and son) to see the strong causal motivation indicating Mossad hit jobs on behalf of their Frankist taskmasters.

  125. kelli  October 25, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    No one is saying they have to go to D.C. and camp out for weeks. Just spreading the word is first and foremost. It’s not like I’m real active but I’m not going to stick my head back in the sand. First we must pull back the curtain and expose them. Where it goes from there, I’m just as clueless as the next.

  126. Ron Paul 2012  October 25, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    That is ALWAYS the first thing people say.
    People would rather believe the lies because if they don’t they feel guilty and shameful they aren’t doing anything.

    Denial is one of the most powerful defense mechanisms.

  127. Ken Rechtstein  October 25, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Mike, not forgetting Charles Lindberg and Dr Duke’s ‘Jewish Supremacism’, which has been traduced to Danish, under the title “Jewish Racism” by a Danish lawyer, authorized by Duke to put it free of charge on the web site of “TheDanishSocietyForFreeHistoryInvestigation”:www.holocaust.nu.3 days ago,I downloaded-started reading the Danish traduction. Going to be a real eye opener for the Danes.The Muslim minority there ‘s been targetet by a vicious ZionTalmudic campaign, creating negative feelings againt it.

  128. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 11:59 am

    someone else…more than one

  129. kelli  October 25, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Did I not understand the comment Gordon? I’m not getting your reply. Or was it directed at someone else?

  130. Nicole  October 25, 2010 at 11:44 am

    I have not red all the comments. I am just translating you article, as good as usual, I am at the middle, and stop, for this reason : what is the worst is that what you describe concerns educated person, not only persons who get only news on TV. AND some Jews who seem to be sincere and make good job in their blogs. BUT they express themselves as if all the worst in the word was US Imperialism. The huge word. I have been very surprised by that, because I feel as many persons the need to exchange with Jews who are not Zionists, but I noticed that. Some Jews who are not Zionists and don’t seem practising hasbara really think 6 millions Jews died……gaz chamber existed, and the evil is now US Imperialism. They of course don’t call to murder, but give a very bad image of US…in bright words.

  131. Ken A.  October 25, 2010 at 11:33 am



    11.9.2001 – with sum 23

  132. Brian  October 25, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Mossad is the #1 suspect for the assassination of President Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy Junior.

  133. Brian  October 25, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Thanks for the interesting information. If the 911 days is accurate, I didn’t check, I find it stunning and a big clue. Both deranged false flag events done by the Mossad.

  134. kelli  October 25, 2010 at 11:28 am

    When I first started reading the evidence against the official 9/11 coverup and realized that we all had been lied to, I naively thought that all we had to do was educate people and we all would take to the streets and oust the traitors from our midst. Now I look at this as being similar to the JFK murder. Most people do not believe the magic bullet theory, the lone gunman but what has been done? Nothing. I argue with a co-worker quite often as she is aware of the truth but believes we are absolutely powerless to change anything and it is a waste of our energy and the stress can actually harm us. My argument is if we do nothing then we guarantee that nothing will ever change. Who is right?

  135. Cloak And Dagger  October 25, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Yes there is much in what you say. It is much more comfortable to not look at something which you feel powerless to change.

  136. Cloak And Dagger  October 25, 2010 at 10:58 am

    You would think so – but the evidence is not favorable. Take the 9/11 issues, for instance. There is an immense amount evidential and logical information on sites such as AE911truth.org that completely debunks the official story of what happened that day. To read that stuff and still believe the official narrative is a demonstration of total cognitive dissonance – and yet it is clearly the case that the effectiveness of this large amount of work has not been remarkable.

    Even the case of Israel, more and more of which is making its way into the public consciousness as the magnitude of their crimes has reached a level that is impossible to ignore – and yet, the public outcry has been muted (with the exception of sites such as this one).

    There has to be a way that the power of the Internet can be utilized to organize bringing the masses to the streets in critical volumes. We need the first domino to fall…

  137. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Editor’s note: This is a moderated site. Those engaged in spamming, attacks on the publication paying for the site, its authors or simply acting like lunatics are invited to go elsewhere. Though there is more free discussion here, we are not going to allow the site to be hijacked by time wasters.

  138. Michael J Volz  October 25, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Yoav Shamir’s (the Israeli producer of the movie “DEFAMTION”) Israeli grandmother said “the jews in America have money without doing work”. She apparently is no stranger to work, so I would think she would like Henry Ford if she knew about him becauase he eliminated so much unnecessary work.


    Gordon , who’s going up on the cross first? You or me?

  139. kelli  October 25, 2010 at 10:35 am

    They just don’t want to look at it. Even when you bring the horse to water, it still won’t drink. I have tried this with my husband and an old fried that I recently started conversing with. The question they have is ‘What are we supposed to do with this information?’ So it is easier to just go on believing the lies because it is perfectly acceptable. No one wants to be called crazy. I would rather be considered crazy than a brain dead sheep.

  140. kelli  October 25, 2010 at 10:31 am

    Great point! Curious indeed!

  141. Michael J Volz  October 25, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Rosika Schwimmer was a “Good Jew” with capital letters! Sorry Larry Dickerstein, I do not hate jews M.F.


  142. Anonymous Smith  October 25, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Fair enough, Mike.

    Hey, maybe you would know…were there any ballads of Henry Ford written? Maybe we could quietly hum them while we get skinny in the Communist/NWO re-education camps.

  143. Ken A.  October 25, 2010 at 9:51 am

    It seems that the initial step in any investigation is to anticipate valid conclusions as deduced from logic. For example, what entity has the most to gain from a 9/11? What entity has the most to lose (from the biggest nasty bully on earth)? Is it reasonable to spend military trillions in the ME to made friends and influence people (when it destroys your nation).

    Clearly, the vast majority of US citizens are totally void of a capacity for logical thinking, especially when they are so locked into years of brainwashing. (Our government is the best, most altruistic on Earth.)

    The people of France, Spain, and Greece may be nationalistic, but for the nation and not when applied to a “government”, it would seem.

  144. Michael J Volz  October 25, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Furthermore Anonymous,

    unlike any business leader I have ever heard of, Henry’s goal was not accumulating “a vast fortune”. His money was a work creating affordable cars for his customers.

    He left more money on the table than any jewish person in the history of the world for the benefit of his customers and the society at large.

    He had all the answers America needed then and even more today.

    Interestingly, he said that although foreign trade is nice, America does not need it to be insanely wealthy beyond the belief of most people. The free trade B.S. is a false bill of goods used to involve us in all the foreign follies we are currently engaged in.

    He eliminated more unnecessary manual labor than anyone in the history of the world and was the greatest economists in modern history if not world history——– a fact the jews do not want you to know about.

    It’s ironic that Henry hated manual labor as much as the jews but he actually did something about it instead of getting “donkeys” to pull the load.


  145. riz  October 25, 2010 at 9:31 am

    most muslim leaders are also sellouts. can you name any who is not. what have pakistanies, egyptions, jordanians etc done to change that. Arab themselves played KEY role in the establishment of israel. Read “lawrance of Arabia” Fact is all goy are in the same boat. you can’t just blame “Americans”

  146. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 9:29 am

    I always let Michael carry the ball about ford.

  147. Cloak And Dagger  October 25, 2010 at 9:28 am

    I get 100% of my news from the internet since I stopped watching TV a few years ago. The remarkable thing I observe about you, Gordon, is that the research you do behind each of your articles are totally unassailable, and the additional tidbits of ancillary information that you are able pepper your main thread with are so very informative and difficult to find elsewhere.

    It does surprise me, however, that so many in this country still believe the complete BS that is dressed up and presented as the latest missive from the non-existent Al-Qaida – or is it just my imagination that people believe them? I am sure the readers on this site, and other sites such as Mike Rivero’s WRH are quite familiar with Adam Perlman, so I have no expectations that he has any credibility with them. Not so sure about the rest of America.

    Clearly people like me who come to your site are part of the choir. The greater challenge is to convince the greater masses about what is happening in this country. The goal is to get the people out on the streets as the French have done. There are so many of us and so few of them that, if we could mobilize the general public, the game would be over in one day.

  148. Michael J Volz  October 25, 2010 at 9:25 am


    Ford did all one man could humanly do to fight the jewish cabal and their tricks on the gentiles. No one is his equal. That is why they still hate him today.

    They made sure he did not become senator or president. We are just now covering ground which Henry covered in 1922. You obviously, like Gordon, think you know the Ford story but your comments reveal you are woefully deficient in your command of this subject.

    Henry is still no doubt quaking in his grave over Mcnamara running his company too!


  149. Ken A.  October 25, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Immigration problems are world wide and exclude no land. (Mexico- USA, Turks – now Muslims – Germany.) This is due, in no small way, to the fact that the dominant Rulers have had no interest for two hundred years in educating the lands in which they practiced their hegemony on such matters as population control. (The more slaves, the cheaper the labor and we hang out behind the castle wall). Exhibit A is Britain and India. Load Mountbatten set up India with East and West Pakistan and bailed out, after it was unmanageable. Britain seems to be enjoying the fruits?

    From Hintergrund.de

    Frau Merkel (East German) is railing against immigration, but she is a pure politician and only attempting to appease the hard right. The underlying goal is to widen the gap between the “Herrschaft” and the working class.

    “The first camps were not constructed for the Jews, but rather for the those leading the workers movements.”

    “The Ruling Class of Germany steps out onto the international stage with increasing aggressiveness and power consciousness.”

    The net population of Germany is negative. But they are against the cultural change.

  150. Scott Snyder  October 25, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Sounds like another crazy character that needs a good bit of disciplining. Check out other crazy extremists in The GH-4 Effect.

  151. Michael J Volz  October 25, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Henry Ford had nothing to do with setting up the Ford Foundation. I assure you he is quaking in his grave about it. The Jews neutered the Ford Family, leaving them with only money. The Jewish income tax forced the creation of the Ford Foundation as the only way the Ford family could keep the manufacturing going on.


  152. K. Terry  October 25, 2010 at 9:11 am

    If organized “Muslim terrorism/Islamofascism” (whatever) was for real, the Muslim haters we see and hear and read in the media would live in fear. Juan Williams would be afraid to say what got him fired from NPR. Pamela Gellar would not be profiled in the NY Times, she’d be in hiding. William Kristol wouldn’t be going on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, he’d be in a bunker.

    If the bogeyman of Muslim terrorism – especially organized Muslim terrorism that we could have a “war” with – was real, it would be targeted, the same way that the anthrax attacks were targeted at a journalist and at US Senate offices. Our political leaders are afraid of crossing the Israel lobby but they have no fear of instigating a targeted Muslim attack against them because of their support of Israel. Thats kind of curious.

  153. Interesting  October 25, 2010 at 8:17 am

    I have information, and wish to be careful. It’s the reason for talking about clan ideology as stated earlier. Much points to power brokers in UK, I need to think about it, may regard G. B–h, Ch–na, U-K, and M.E. Only so much can be said in FR, maybe another language. Or maybe Gordon says no, he knows what am talking about but with more detail.

  154. C  October 25, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Sirin, you are whats called a “useful idiot”. You are fooled by all of the fear monger propaganda and you actually support Americas enemies and their lies with your naivety. Go back to watching cable news you brainwashed toolbag.

  155. there's a good reason  October 25, 2010 at 7:18 am

    why do you suppose in more than 2000 years, a certain zionist jew tribe has been ostracized and cast out of virtually every land they have squatted in? Do you think it was just because they happened to be there.

    zionism is a disease, and zionist jews are a problem, globally. what you classify as vitriol, is common sense and hard learned lessons about Khazars who think that goyim should be used or killed at will to further their chosen tribe agenda.

    Does the name Rotshchilds ring a bell to you, netherlander? How about Bilderberger?

    how about the date November 22nd., 1963? How about GTR-5, does that ring a bell? How about Sept 11, 2001? Ever heard of P.N.A.C. before? How about Philip Zelikow and Michael Chertoff, or Elliott Abrams, or David Addington?

    Naw, I didn’t think you have heard of any of them. You might want to get up to speed with current events, then come in here and accuse us of being harsh on ‘jews’ in here. We’ve been very fair. We just don’t like being slaves to them, under the Rothschilds Banking Cartel, globally, or cannon fodder for their wars.

    Look up Rachel Corrie, and also, ‘Mavi Marmara’, and perhaps ‘Gaza Offensive’, whilst you are at it. You owe us an apology.

  156. Guilherme  October 25, 2010 at 6:50 am

    Somehow,after checking world news online,i ended up on this Web site. At first thought it was some nazi or islamic page,but when i realized it was produced by U.S. Veterans i just couldn’t believe it. The vitriol here against the jews is no different from that of Ahmadi-nejad of Iran or the fanatics of Hezbollah. Those here who can’t get enough of their hatred of the jews and show much admiration for muslims should probably visit my homecountry for a good history lesson,something will not get from outlandish conspiracy theories. I was born to italian parents and raised in the Netherlands. The Netherlands had always been a very tolerant and welcoming country for immigrants from many countries. Among these groups,the jews were once the largest,but it didn’t prevent them from fully integrating into the
    Dutch society. They financed and supported much of what the Netherlands achieved in the areas of commerce,arts and culture. Starting in the 1960s and 1970s muslim
    immigrants started arriving as well. Over the last 30 to 40 years their numbers have swelled to more than million and the results are easy to see. Some areas of our cities and towns look more like the Middle East than Europe. Anti-Dutch and anti-Western sentiment is fairly common among them,and their religious fanaticism is changing Dutch attitudes towards free speech,tolerance and artistic expression. One of our best known filmakers was butchered on the street by a muslim,and many members of our society live under 24-hour police protection due to death threats by mmuslims. Their large families and lack of interest for hard work is breaking the nation’s welfare system. So you think the jews are the real problem? Then,come visit the Netherlands. I’m sure you’ll change your mind.

  157. ADL the real enemy  October 25, 2010 at 5:38 am

    A brilliant article

    my heartfelt congrats to the writer.

    Thanks for waking us up!!!

  158. foo  October 25, 2010 at 3:34 am

    @ Brian and Penumbra

    “Their crowning achievements…”

    Does November 22, 1963 ring a bell with anyone?

  159. Timmy Osman  October 25, 2010 at 3:28 am

    Oy vey, you guyz! geez! Wun udder ting, ah wuz gonna warn ya dat my vizcious jihadist netwurk, you knowz az da ‘toilet’ (qaeda) iz vewwwy vewwyyy vicciouz wid dem dere box cutta’s. We wuz so bad dat we destroyd NO-RAD wid dem, and if youz don’t beeleve dat, yo azz will be whacked by my close friend and coleeg, Rudy JulieAnnie!

    So, done you all be hangin any of dis heer crap on Adam Gadahn, I mean, uh, cuz Rita Katz wont lahk youz callin her a layer, I mean….c’mon…you know dat Orly Taitz and Rita wud nevah evah mizlead da maricon public wid propagonada from Izrahell.

    over n out again.

    brethren in jihad, eben tho I’z been dead since 2001.


    p.s.: and best regardz to my udder pal, Leon Pineda, I wuz a bit outz of sync wit dat stuff about Porter, he been out since I been dead, I think. 🙂

  160. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Brian, alluding to what I wrote above, I would say that whilst Kabbalism may have “orthodox” Jewish roots (certainly Chasidism stems from the breakup of the Sabbateans following the outward “conversion” of Sabbatai Zevi, their founder and self-proclaimed “messiah”, to Islam under the Ottoman Caliphate) these acts are more indicative of the Luciferian occultist convictions of stevor’s ‘Power Elite’ (aka the 13 families of which the Rothschilds are one), the Frankists.

    These events are orchestrated not only to progress their global political chess game, but also as major human sacrifices in their Luciferian religious bid for greater earthly power. Blood sacrifice, harnessing the energies of suffering, or as our mysteriously vanished poster, Godsend, often put it, “feeding off negative spiritual energy”. It’s esoteric occult practice that goes back to ancient times.

    Even the dates of these events contain significance to occultists, multiples of 3, the number 11, the number 7. Striking aspects that most disregard as coincidental simply because they have little interest in religion in general and thus miss the underlying motivations that characterize our true enemies. Most prefer to accept surface explanations, anything deeper has long been associated with hocus pocus and X-files concepts in the public psyche. Hidden in plain sight through public incredulity.

    Of further note, you might be interested to note the occult elements designed into Israel’s Supreme Court building…


  161. Timmy Osman  October 25, 2010 at 2:05 am

    I just wanted to tell you guys that my ‘toilet’ guys (al qaeda) haz nuttin to do wid dis joik frum Israhell…cohen…whatzizname.

    besides, I been dead awhile and it’s hard for me to keepz up on da truff.

    oh, by da way, if you want real jihad, go to a SYNAGOGUE.

    over an out.

    yer pal,
    O.B.L., aka, in-death, Timmy Osman
    p.s.: say hi to Porter Goss and my udder buddies dere!!! 🙂

  162. Gordon Duff  October 25, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Be thankful that the shills, ADL or DHS are a dim witted crowd.
    They are a sorry lot…no question about that.

  163. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Im aware of all that Tj, thanks. Also have only seen the original wickerman. I loathe anything having to do with Nicholas Cage. 😉

    a site you might be interested in which goes further into wht you’ve written is…


  164. Penumbra  October 25, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Shirin, you hasbarah shills truly are the worst example of Israel-paid propagandists out there. Even the Zionist-controlled US media makes a better effort to appear informed (which isn’t saying much).

    “…commissioning acts of terrorism against Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan”

    You’d better recheck the definition of “terrorism”. Americans in Iraq and Afganistan for the past near decade have been military (official and private mercenary), CIA provocateurs and parasitic hegemonic corporate contractors there to plunder Iraq’s sovereign resources.

    Any action by Iraqis and Afghans (funded by Iran or anyone else) against those targets are called “resistance” and are fully legitimate under all principles of self defense and International Law (as opposed to the Americans themselves which have disregarded International Law and waged illegal War of Aggression). You invade someone else’s land and seek to do them harm and you should expect to be a target.

    “…establishing and growing Hezbollah to the size of a regular army”

    And more power to them. Hezbollah is the direct response to Israel’s flagrant and repeated invasions and acts of covert violence against Lebanon and the Lebanese as well as the Syrians. The Israeli narrative of perpetual victimhood under which it has perpetrated repeated war crimes and crimes against humanity both in Palestine and against its neighbors (go review the fraudulent history erected around the 1967 war – aka unilateral land grab) no longer holds water amongst those who bother to actually research.

    Both Hezbollah and Hamas are rightful and Lawful resistance movements and in fact much needed social support movements caring for the true victims, Israel’s victims. I laud Iran for backing them when Washington, which claims to support the rule of law and justice, has not.

    “Funny thing, when 9/11 happened, Israelis mourned along with Americans while the Palestinians celebrated not only in Gaza and the West Bank, but right here, across the Hudson while watching the buildings come down on our innocent citizens”

    Another Israeli myth you regurgitate, as has the ZioMedia in the US. Again, those who actually research know that the images of celebrating Palestinians was an archived footage dredged out of the Mossad abyss from years previous, even the date was left on the footage, making it all the more an embarrassing smear job.

    For the real celebration of 911 one needed only to look across the East River (and quite a few did) to see the dancing Israelis, sent to “document the event”.


    Sell your outdated discredited wares elsewhere, we know your paymasters were the masterminds behind that event and they have been laughing all the way to the bank ever since.

  165. Brian  October 25, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Regarding the Madrid bombing:

    This from the insightful people at sott.net who should get more attention:

    For its cold-blooded professionalism, the Madrid bombings of March 11th 2004 bore all the hallmarks of an Israeli Mossad false flag operation. Yet the most interesting aspects of this particular “Islamic terror” attack is that it was one of the rare instances when the plan went totally awry in terms of the hoped for outcome.

    At the peak of Madrid rush hour on the morning of Thursday 11th March 2004, ten explosions occurred aboard four commuter trains killing 191 people and injuring 2050. Strangely, there were exactly 911 days between the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington and the Madrid train bombings, a fact which was interpreted by prosecutor Olga Sánchez as evidence of orthodox Jewish Kabbalistic symbolism in the timing of the attacks.

    When the Mossad’s carefully laid trail of clues pointing to “Islamic terrorists” were coincidentally found, rather than rise up against “al-Qaeda” the Spanish people blamed Aznar and his government for calling down the ire of the “Islamic terrorists” by sending Spanish troops to do Israeli-American bidding in Iraq against the overwhelming will of the Spanish people.

    as noted, the Mossad had prepared well in advance a very detailed bogus trail of “evidence” which pointed the finger at “Islamic terrorists” patsies, which included the ubiquitous verses of the Koran and having said “terrorists” apparently blow themselves to smithereens in an apartment in Madrid about 3 weeks after the attacks. Very convenient.


    Brian: Since I believe the 911 cruel event was a Mossad operation I find the 911 days very intriguing.

  166. OS  October 25, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Now the other big one in this state, hopefully in time people will figure that out?

  167. OS  October 25, 2010 at 12:15 am

    How bad for Henry Ford?

    Having worked in the area, Henry Ford was continuously worried about being assassinated. In fact, he had underground tunnels constructed from many of his office locations. So he could disappear from one, and appear at another if he suspected problems. I worked in this location before, and also visited his former home.

    Gordon, I told you in earlier comment about someone receiving information in Detroit MI, and reported this, and thereafter no concern. It was clear to me; thereafter the information was propaganda, as the person who received this information contacted me about (8) months later asking to attend their graduation. That was my real concern, I am aware propaganda was being circulated in Michigan during this time.

  168. Brian  October 25, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Another thing about Osama:

    I don’t know if Rose Cohen is real. Perhaps she is really Jerry Seinfeld doing a prank but read this:

    BIN LADEN IS JEWISH, full stop. A very close friend and a MOST eminent Israeli journalist told me recently, that according to Jewish law – bin Laden is Jewish, as his mother is Jewish(!).

    AND — if that is not enough, this irrefutably honest Israeli journalist, disclosed to me personally that bin Laden’s mother’s family lives in Israel (I will not print here the exact address which he provided me). I knew that bin Laden was Jewish long time ago, but with the current war hysteria I never mentioned to anyone except to my husband. The fact that bin Laden is Jewish, is known in Israel, but the ‘free’ ‘democratic’ ‘press’ of Israel will NOT publish it, as we have to continue to promote the myth that he is a ‘villain’.

    The most ironic part of it all is that we Jews taught the world that the Moslems are evil. This is a totally false concept. I visited many Moslem countries and they are a most gentle people…primarily because of their religion. Moslems are praying 5 times a day, they do not have time to play Pokemon, go on drive-by shootings, or watch another Jewish TV ‘documentary’. ONLY when I visited Moslem countries, did I realize how massively corrupt our Western culture is.

    By Rose Cohen


    The rest of the article is provocative and sprinkled with humor and remember it was written by a Jewish woman, at least I hope so. Perhaps she should should have her own talk show. Wouls she be kicked off her American talk show if she repeated this line from the article:

    AND Bush is ‘saving our civilization’? I can see the Elders bursting with laughter in their graves. My husband always said that as long as we Jews control your TV, you American dummies will believe anything!

    Brian: To me Osama bin Laden had nothing to do terrorism but if the Jewish Zionist controlled major media is correct that Osama actually did 911 (ridiculous), is Osama bin Laden a Jewish terrorist?

  169. Anonymous Smith  October 24, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Good post, Mike.

    Henry Ford was another powerful guy who could have been enormously helpful to us in our fight against the Hostile Jewish Elite here today. But, unfortunately, he chose not to set aside a portion of his vast fortune to provide for our needs in our fight against the Jews. Instead, he left most of his fortune to his worthless family and to his foundation, which is now controlled by the Jews!

  170. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi  October 24, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    dance dance dance shirin

    rita katz & her SITE group are very proud

  171. Penumbra  October 24, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    “Their crowing achievements are the 911 attacks followed by the London 7/7 bombings. ”

    Don’t forget the 3/11/04 Madrid Train Bombing and the 2007 Ankara Bombing.

  172. Brian  October 24, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    FBI and CIA agents are well aware of at least some of the evidence that connects the Mossad to the cruel 911 attacks. When is this information going to be leaked to the public?

  173. Gordon Duff  October 24, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    I can see you are going to be alot of fun. Do you remember the Shah? You remember what a good ally he was to Israel. This was your killer.

  174. Penumbra  October 24, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Actually Michael, Rothschilds and those in their camp (stevor’s PE) are Sabbatean/(Frankist) “Jews” or as referred to Revelations “…of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan”. Thus they are as much the enemy of naive Jews who support them without realizing how they are being used to further aims as anti-Jewish as they are anti-Gentile.


    They are quite literally Luciferian occultists and as such lust after earthly power and endless wealth and control over the mechanisms of both in their misguided belief that they can engineer a worldwide society in which there is no deprivation, no war, and complete equality amongst men. This is the heart of “Illuminati” (their belief that they alone are enlightened to bring about such earthly peace and conformity to their superior intellectual design and will).

    Of course that equality means equality of slavery, subject to their rule, which would be harsh for those who hold to the true liberty of each individual’s natural sovereignty under God.

    Adam Weishaupt got the organizational framework of their globalist cabal up and running for them back in the late 1700’s around the time we THOUGHT we were actually throwing off colonial rule. Oh how naive we have been from then to the present.

  175. Shirin  October 24, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    You got to be kidding me. Me? Visit? You don’t know how much I have visited, and how closely I know Iran, Iranians, and the mullahs. Iran, is geographically a beautiful country. Used to be a great civilization, greater than the Greeks. Moslems stole everything that belonged to Iran and stamped it their own since their savage attack on Iran over 1400 years ago.

    For that long, they have tried to destroy every sign of the Persian civilization, but have failed. Moderate? My eye!

    If you call torturing, raping, sodomizing, decapitating, and secretly disposing of Iranian young men and women inside Iran, and financing, training, and commissioning acts of terrorism against Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan and fueling the fire in the Middle East by establishing and growing Hezbollah to the size of a regular army to finally start a war in the Middle East “moderate”, I must doubt either your intelligence or your intent.

    And, Saudis “Zionists” of Islam? You really don’t know who a Zionist is. And, further, you know nothing about the House of Saud.

    Funny thing, when 9/11 happened, Israelis mourned along with Americans while the Palestinians celebrated not only in Gaza and the West Bank, but right here, across the Hudson while watching the buildings come down on our innocent citizens. Just like Muslims, it appears you have things upside down.

  176. Brian  October 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    A lot of good information. Well done.

    Perhaps the United States and governments all over the world owe Osama bin Laden an apology. Yes, I know he is dead.

    As a lot of viewers here know, Osama is not even wanted for the 911 crimes by the FBI due to no hard evidence. He is wanted for two crimes by the FBI but a couple of insightful investigators state the FBI has flimsy evidence. I wouldn’t be surprised if the flimsy evidence came from the Mossad.

    When Osama was a CIA asset known as Tim Osman his actions included fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan and providing a substantial amount of money for the war. During that war did you ever hear the Soviets accuse Osama bin Laden of terrorist activities? Did you ever hear the Soviets accuse Osama of even blowing up an embassy of the Soviet Union? Did the Soviets provide any evidence of Osama masterminding terrorist activities? I don’t think so.

    Osama doesn’t seem to have a history of being a terrorist. Israeli government officials are welcome with open arms in the United States yet it’s the #1 terrorist organization in the world. Their crowing achievements are the 911 attacks followed by the London 7/7 bombings.

    I suggest the Australian newspaper ask Australians to download and read this free book: http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book

    and then ask the question: Do you believe that Israel is the #1 suspect for the 911 attacks?

    BTW, I think Christopher Bollyn, who is the author of the book, is still living outside of the United States due to being framed for a crime and being concerned about being tossed in prison by a Zionist Judge from Chicago.

  177. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Radioislam.org, too I think has it and it is a very good site.


  178. Gordon Duff  October 24, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Please do all this again. I am having difficulty understanding where you are coming from. You seem to be “blithering.” Good luck with that.

  179. Gordon Duff  October 24, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Thanks for coming onboard. Saudi’s are the “Zionists” of Islam..the wahabists.
    You are not entirely wrong.
    However…you would actually find Iran to be quite moderate…
    You should visit..interesting place.
    Would be interested in your feedback.
    On the other hand…there are one or two issues about israel…and hatred of America.

  180. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Larry Dickerstein will be happy that you cited many sources but I don’t think they will be acceptable to him.


  181. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    You say: “Who has brainwashed you”??? Well it was the jewish controlled mass media. Your problem is you don’t realize you have been programmed and/or that many Americans are deprogramming themselves and others ——with the TRUTH! That’s what this site is all about.


  182. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Dear Stevor,

    Eminent professor of modern world history, Carroll Quigley wrote in his book “Tragedy and Hope” that a small group (cabal) of men control the world (conspiracy) and that they are all European bankers and mostly jewish. He did not say what kind of jew they are but they are certainly a “power elite”.

    Nor when Ariel Sharon said “we the jewish people control America and they know it, he too did not specify what kind of jew he was talking about.

    Nor when Alan Sabrosky said the mossad “did 911” and that most American Jews are more loyal to Israhell than the USA, he did not say what type of jew he was talking about and whether they are askenazi, sephardic, hasidic, zionist or “good jew”.

    The Rothschilds are apparently the heads of the TRIBE (of all jews).


  183. Ken A.  October 24, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    “They have not an ounce of loyalty to anything America stands for.”

    Don’t have to praise them.

  184. rachel  October 24, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I see ya got the Israeli minons up in arms. Good work! You know you are over the target when you start taking flak.

  185. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    You say: “fantasies”????? The only relevant fantasy is the “offical” version of 911, proffered by the jew controlled mass media!

    Sorry Bud,


  186. AJHenry  October 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    I was going to add Ford’s International Jew. Glad I didn’t as I wasn’t aware of the other texts on Ford. Thanks! Anyway, http://www.iamthewitness has it or you can get it here: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/intern_jew.htm

  187. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    PowerElite, New World Order, Bilderbergs, askenazis, sephardics, good jew, etc, etc, are polite ways of saying the forbidden word “jew”


  188. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    they silenced Ford and his family made a peace pact to be quiet—-

    It seems the rest of the Ford family were satisfied with their money and did not need the endless headache of arguing with the jews who never loose an argument—–

    Henry’s only (legitimate?) child, Edsel died at 42 and did not have the same interests or personality as his father


  189. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 5:19 pm


    Gordon’s comment about Ford running into the Rothschilds over “borrowing money” may incorrectly imply Ford needed their money or refused to pay it back which is not correct.

    The problem was he would not let them control his business.


  190. Shirin  October 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Oh, Mr. Duff, Mr. Duff, Mr. Duff! It is so sad and sobering to read what you and your contributors have to say on this website. It makes me shudder and makes the hair on my skin stand up. You know why? You all remind me of the mullahs in Iran and the Nazis. You talk and write like them; you reason like them; you make up fantasies like them; you deflect all evil from yourselves onto others; you are know-it-all; you are the saviors of the world and you will ultimately be victorious.

    Come out here to California and I will show you thousands of Muslims that have become residents or citizens merely to materially benefit from what America has to offer. They have not an ounce of loyalty to anything America stands for. While I can show you educated Muslims who will testify that the terrorists you sympathize with are the shame of humanity and they don’t want anything to do with them, they are in minority. Place a tape recorder in virtually any Saudi built mosque in the United States and you will hear their hateful words about America and what pigs you and I are.

    Now, again, I cannot believe that our veterans would set up a website like this. Who has brainwashed you and other dear veterans of ours to forget Christ and fill your hearts with so much hate?

    Instead of being useful to your communities and continuing to serve your country in a different way, you have chosen to divert from the path of light.

  191. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Stevor, Read “The International Jew” by the Dearborn Independent which was a paper created by Henry Ford to counter the jew controlled mass media . It is very relevant to everything happening now.


  192. baruchatta  October 24, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    GORDON DUFF : enemy of the American people, and of Israel. This is a classic case of an attempt to “divide and conquer. Actually, very good science fiction. And that is what is must be, fiction. Ok, ignore all of the evidence. Make up what you want to believe.
    OK, mr GORDON DUFF, you offer not one shred of colaborated evidence, not even the url of the website you claim.
    So, therefore, I call your bluff. You bluff. You lie. You have no evidence, no proof. Just speculation and slander. You say things are this way, so it must be an Israeli plot. Oldest lie in the book. \
    No matter what the situation is, you would always say it is an Israeli plot.
    It doesn’t matter what the news is or what has just happened. It is always a Jewish plot, an Israeli plot. If things were just the opposite, you would still say it’s an Israeli plot.

    Gee, I wish the Israelis were really that smart or powerful. It is just not so.

  193. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Dear Stevor, re the most suppressed story in American history, including 911—– Henry Ford.

    It seems Gordon has gotten the “skinny” on Henry Ford from the jews on his staff instead of first hand research. “Growing up in Detroit” isn’t enough!

    Henry’s problem with borrowing money— was that he wouldn’t borrow any; and surrender control of his manufacturing and business philosophy to the bankers, stock brokers, lawyers —-ULTIMATELY THE JEWS.



    I have never read a word written by anyone except those promoting the jewish line that indicated to me Henry Ford hated jews but they hate the hell out out of him! (an anti antisemite is someone the jews hate not someone who hates jews???? I believe that!).

    Yes, he tried to prevent WW1 at the request of a idealistic “jewess” named Rosika Schwimmer who asked for his help in trying to do so.


  194. Rehmat  October 24, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Was not it the Christian West which played midwife to Israel to solve its centuries-old “Jewish Problem”? Now the chicken are coming to roost.

    Americans have no moral right to complain to the Jewish power over their country. How could they when most of their leaders are “sell-out” Christians who are more loyal to Israel than their own country – From Ben Obama to Rev. John Hagee.

    If the American think they’re oppressed by the Jewish power – just imagine how the Muslim world feel, which is real victim of Judeo-Christian facism.

    American should be proud to have ADL among them who just honored the CNN owner Rupert Murdoch for telling the world that both “Jews and Israel are under attack”.


  195. Ken A.  October 24, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    “”…no matter how much you may find government a pack of useless liars, the magic “boxcutter and pancaking building” story on 9/11 must be adhered to.”

    Exactly; Pervasive, the NYT approach. Everywhere! Get on the side of the public. Big TV salary. Sell lots of papers. Bad government! It needs a slap on the hand.

    Being a pack of useless liars is really not a crime (invading lands and all that, lots of precedent, no hangings), so far (except morally, which applies none whatsoever).

  196. Ken A.  October 24, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    and for them, there is a conscription, many of whom die as a result.

    Need to stay with the middle ages approach, which is now in effect; you bought your soldiers, and had to scrape up the money. US has not problem with the latter Something missing here.

  197. stevor  October 24, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    So, is there still anybody at/from Ford that is against these Power Elite? If so, are they doing anything now? If so, what? If not, why not?

  198. Gordon Duff  October 24, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Ford ended up at war with the Rothschilds over two things, 1. borrowing money to build his company…and 2. trying to stop WW1…which he learned was being continued with Rothchild pressure after Germany agreed to a cease fire in 1916 and total withdawal.
    Read more about it.

  199. stevor  October 24, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Speaking of Henry Ford and Jews, it being that he printed up 500,000 copies of the whatever “of Zion” that told of how the Jews wanted to take over the world, it seems that Henry was anti-Jew (or was he anti-Zion?)

    Anyhow, me being one who thinks the Power Elite (PE) are for a New World Order/one-world-government,I don’t understand how Henry fits into it all.

  200. Michael J Volz  October 24, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Don’t forget Henry Ford’s “The International Jew”!


  201. john  October 24, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Gordon, there’s a lot on the plate here in your article and I’m sure it took you hours of research. It is probably too involved for some of your readers. Thanks to the internet and people like you the plans of the destructive forces of the world can be revealed. You’re right, there is an end came to all of this anti-Islam hype, but, it will be impossible for Israel to not be looked at as the instigator and propagander of this.

  202. AJHenry  October 24, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Forgot to mention Benjamin Freedman’s essential exposition of the problem in his 1961 Willard Hotel speech. Listen to it here http://iamthewitness.com/archive.php?dir=audio%2FBenjamin.H.Freedman%2FWillard.Hotel.1961%2F or read it here http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/1961.Willard.Hotel.Speech.htm

    He said, “the Zionists and their coreligionists RULE these United States as though they were the ABSOLUTE MONARCHS.” He made this statement having watched them dupe us into WWI and WWII.

  203. AJHenry  October 24, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Yep, yep, yep and yep some more. The long running manipulation of societies by Jews has been well documented. People new to this idea should visit the archives at http://www.iamthewitness.com and do some homework. The following are highly recommended:

    The Controversy of Zion http://iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/Douglas.Reed_The.Controversy.of.Zion.pdf

    The Nameless War http://iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.War.pdf

    Waters Flowing Eastward http://iamthewitness.com/books/index.php?dir=Denis.Fahey%2FWaters.Flowing.Eastward%2F

    Secrets of the Federal Reserve http://iamthewitness.com/books/Eustace%20Mullins%20The%20Secrets%20of%20the%20Federal%20Reserve.pdf

    Jewish Religion… http://iamthewitness.com/books/Elizabeth.Dilling/Elizabeth.Dilling_The.Jewish.Religion.It%27s.Influence.Today.pdf

    Jews in Russia… http://iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/Andrey.Diky_Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR.pdf

    IF a group controls the banking institutions in a nation, then they can (and will) control the government and other key organs. The public will then be brainwashed by the owned media that discussing the central problem is “hate speech” or “conspiracy theory.”

    Father Coughlin, demonized as a “demagogue” was actually a patient and scrupulously fair investigator the the problem. Try these broadacsts:



    more here http://iamthewitness.com/archive.php?dir=audio%2FCharles.E.Coughlin%2F

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