GORDON DUFF: THE ‘WINGNUT” DEBATE (Freedom Watch-Geraldo-9/11-video)




By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Friday, Fox “journalist” Geraldo Rivera, on Judge Napolitano’s “Freedom Watch” was interviewed about his new found beliefs on 9/11.  For years, Rivera, infamous as a scandal monger, the “clown” of America’s news media, has tried to regain an air of respectability after a career filled with disasters.  Now, the newly rehabilitated Geraldo Rivera, famous for calling 9/11 activists ‘wingnuts” has changed sides and, in a cowardly and hesitant manner, thrown in his lot with those advocating a new investigation of 9/11.

However, Rivera couldn’t get out five words without bringing up the Kennedy assassination and calling anyone who doubts the “lone gunman” theory, the one the 1975 congressional investigation threw out, “wingnuts.”

The term “wingnut” is the how the American corporate press, the controlled press, helps the government silence critics, by government, of course, we mean the real government, the one in Tel Aviv.  Rivera, the king of “wingnuts” has two tasks, controlling the spin on 9/11, a gun pointing at the head of Israel and, low and behold, to kill the new rumors, based on testimony by Mordecai Vanunu, Israeli nuclear whistleblower, that clearly ties the Kennedy murders to the Mossad.  This six year old story is only now coming to the surface and gaining momentum.  Rivera is out to stop it and “wingnut” is his ploy.

Watch Rivera try to contain speculation about government complicity in 9/11 while sneaking in his other agenda item, the Kennedy Assassination.  Those who follow both issues, know the well established facts are miles beyond where Rivera is willing to go.  Watch Rivera justify Israel’s trust when it awarded him citizenship.

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Despite its misuse, the term “wingnut” one used continually in America, is a valid one but its use and application needs to be more reality based, not something bandied about by the shills and hangers-on that constitute America’s “infotainment” press.

This last week, President Obama ended any hope in American forces every leaving Afghanistan, pushing the timetable to 2014 and beyond.  The situation on the ground in Afghanistan may or may not justify this but President Obama isn’t a wingnut for what he did, but why he did it.  If you ask him, and nobody will, he will tell you that Afghanistan is where the 9/11 hijackers were trained and the attacks were staged from, attacks led by Osama bin Laden.

This makes President Obama a “wingnut.”

If another military or intelligence official, American, British, Pakistani or even Israeli, has to “leak” to the press one more time that Osama bin Laden has been dead forever, even his bones may be dust now, and that even the biggest “wingnut” terrorist wouldn’t be so stupid as to “train,” whatever that means, in Afghanistan, the nastiest place on earth…..

Take a hint, move on with life, the man is dead, invent someone else to turn out phony threats and amusing audio tapes.

When America “elected” (we aren’t so sure this happened anymore) “the decider,” a seemingly affable bungler, card carrying sociopath, “on again/off again” drunk and addict and his “Darth Vader” assistant, it left its gonads and common sense home in a dresser drawer and began a decade of lapping up wild conspiracy theories and chasing imaginary “boogeymen.”  In reality, “wingnut” America was heading for a “fleecing” like no sheep in history had received, at the hands of petty criminals and gangsters, bible toting con men so laughable that the world has looked on in dismay, all except Britain, of course, a nation easily as dumb as America or worse.

Ever see the BBC News or check out a London tabloid?  I rest my case.

Back in America,”wingnuts” had taken over everywhere, they ran the Federal Reserve, they took over our defense and intelligence services, they have always been the FBI, ever since J Edgar Hoover tried on his first dress.  Americans sat around and watched the kids they never would have played with as children, the “mamas boys” and “wimps,” the sneak thieves and snitches become “leaders of the free world” and, worst of all, phony  heroes.

Rudy Giuliani.  Proof enough?

Today, we are saddled with Barak Obama, clearly a man of some intellect whose beliefs, whatever those might be, are clearly rooted somewhere outside the asteroid belt.  Of course, surrounded by a Washington establishment, wingnuts all, who guide his every thought and looking across an American landscape that has to appear, even to “wingnut Obama” as dangerously maladjusted, what can we expect?

What would happen if a “Negro” president came out and told white people they were all bonkers?  I wait, almost pray for this every day.

The real Barak Obama is never going to do this, despite the race hatred millions of Americans are seething with, and can barely contain, Obama is not what they fear he is, and, thus, not what America needs him to be.  When it came time to dance “whitey” off to jail, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, DeLay, Boehner, Ashcroft, Pearle, Zelikow and the 5 total maniacs on the Supreme Court, totalitarian extremists all, he did nothing.

Other Americans, those who oppose Obama are nearly as bad.  9/11 happened in 2001 and, from “day one” had a smell about it.  By January 2002, almost nine years ago, most basic constitutional rights had been suspended in America.  Search and seizure protections were gone, every phone could be wiretapped, millions were and still are.  The right to face your accuser in a court of law, right to counsel, those constitutional rights disappeared.

Due process, another constitutional right went away as did prohibitions on “cruel and unusual punishment.”  When the government set up “free speech zones,” they eliminated our constitutional rights to gather, protest and petition.  The constitution only applied to some people in some places at some times.  These things were done, supposedly, to protect Americans from dangerous terrorists, a threat more and more Americans are now learning was manufactured here at home by the government itself, the same way Hitler did it in Germany.

2.5 million Americans are in prison today.  That is enough to fill Auschwitz 125 times.  Do we really know who the American government is locking up?  With rights suspended, we can’t trust the reasons and with no free press, we can never know.  Never, even under British rule, have Americans had so few rights.

These aren’t minor rights but are the basis for American society, the things that define democracy, the real spirit behind the national anthem, the flag, the pledge of allegiance and all those other things that give Americans a feeling of pride.  The Constitution of the United States of America was, officially, suspended nine years ago and replaced with a series of decrees that are slowly being overturned by courts, where courts still exist.  The ‘checks and balances” are gone, the Bill of Rights, line by line, discarded, separation of church and state certainly obliterated, everything the Founding Fathers built, flushed away by a generation of weaklings and moral cowards.

Not everyone knew but many knew, many know and too few care.  Imagine, how do you define “wingnuts” in such a situation?  America is a police state, a dictatorship, just like all the others, the same rules apply.  The term “wingnut” was originally created to label anyone who stood against what can’t be called anything but evil.  It was easier and cheaper to discredit than to kill.  Not everyone could be sent to Bulgaria to be tortured and not every American flies in small planes that seem to conveniently crash so often.

Only so many members of the press can go the way of Helen Thomas or Dan Rather, eventually the “Don Bolles (McCain)  Steve Kanga (Bush)  Mike Connell (Rove) Vince Foster (Clinton)” solution is used or, as with the Israelis, they simply drive a bulldozer over the problem (Rachel Corrie) or 4 bullets to the head (Furgan Dogan).

You don’t know these names?  You would if you had a free press.  If you had a free press, they would all still be alive, these and thousands more.

Imagine a nation, the rulers of the land, sea and air, a nation whose children are groped and strip searched in airports, a nation willing to follow a semi-literate pit bull known to be a puppet of Wall Street and Tel Aviv.  Imagine an entire nation of people who do little but call each other “wingnuts.”

Are they ALL correct?

In America, the real “wingnuts” have always been the press, where failed “everything” goes when it starts to smell enough.  It it is on TV and getting paid, chances are it belongs in a mental hospital.  Glenn Beck?  Rush Limbaugh?  Sean Hannity?  Bill O’Reilly?  Jon Stewart?

I rest my case.

This fact is hidden from some, even still, because the free press, guaranteed by the first amendment is gone and the government is still moving further, introducing laws to limit speech even more, censorship of almost any idea that doesn’t agree with “wingnut”reality, how the losers and golfers in Washington DC see the world.

In 2006, the American government suspended habeas corpus.  To those who don’t know law or latin for that matter, this might not seem like a big deal.  What it means is that all rights of any kind no longer exist because the state can now decide who is or is not a person at all, the basic right to petition a court for rights disappeared.

Not long after that, the Supreme Court gave corporations the same rights that were taken away from people.  Defining a corporation as a person, the court allowed billions, yes, that much, to be paid out in bribes during elections.  The problem with this, the problem that defines, not only the court as “wingnuts” but those who let this happen quietly and even supported it, is that the rights corporations have, people don’t.  Nobody is torturing, imprisoning or murdering corporations.

Yes, that’s right, the state now believes it can kill any American citizen, break into their homes at night, haul them anywhere in the world, torture them or assassinate them, based on, not a warrant, no document or process of any kind, but an order from someone appointed by, well…..we aren’t sure.  In fact, we are no longer sure how many of these orders come from within the United States at all anymore.  How could we, we have a wingnut president, a wingnut court, wingnut press, wingnut congress, wingnut police, a wingnut military.

We even have a political movement that, in the name of “restoring” the constitution, actually supports making things worse.  Of course, this is a group that watched the constitution disappear in 2002 but woke up to the fact, just “all of a sudden like” in 2009, seven full years later, when an African American president took office.  These are the worst “wingnuts” of all and the most dangerous.

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66 Responses to "GORDON DUFF: THE ‘WINGNUT” DEBATE (Freedom Watch-Geraldo-9/11-video)"

  1. Michael J Volz  November 23, 2010 at 11:15 am

    that’s why the call him NuttyYuHoo

  2. kelli  November 22, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I want to dress in a sheep costume and ‘baa’ at all of the people lining up for their pat-down or x-ray at the airport. Would probably be my ticket to jail!

  3. kelli  November 22, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Was Michael Jackson about to expose something? I’m asking with all due respect not trying to be cute, because it sounds like he had a real drug problem.

  4. kelli  November 22, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Kate, it sounds like you listen to Glen Beck. Soros is no good, that is for sure but Beck is hitting Soros and the Progressives, for different reasons. The divide and conquer thing, the maintaining of the left/right paradigm. He’s not about getting the TRUTH out.

  5. vinnie  November 21, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    T.J. Branco you are a IDIOT.

  6. Binky  November 21, 2010 at 11:52 am

    When given an opportunity to present facts – those two quite often don’t. I recall one Alex Jones movie where he starts shouting at night, with a megaphone at the Governor of Texas house. Isn’t he supposed to be a journalist working in Texas ? Could he not contact the guy for an interview ?
    But I must admit I seldom hear the Jones show. How many times has he had Gordon Duff on ?

  7. Craig Pepe  November 21, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I went to far with this above comment, but whatever it happens

  8. Craig Pepe  November 21, 2010 at 10:10 am

    and also just to clarify something

    I am strongly anti-fox news channel

    but there are a handful of decent people there

    not many

    but a small few

  9. Craig Pepe  November 21, 2010 at 9:14 am

    I would be very very surprised if Obama is not on the ballot in 2012

    Charlie Rose on Obama a few years ago: “Obama represents the future”

  10. Ross  November 21, 2010 at 6:54 am

    Craig your assertions of Alex Jones and Luke Rudowski being Israeli shills does not hold water.There is a logic in not directly accusing Israel,since they will be labelled as racist Jew haters.In fact it was not ordinary Jews who perpetrated this evil.These are a few elites who are using their Jewish ancestry for advantage.They don’t believe in any god let alone yahweh.Many Jews like the idiot Bush,have been swept up in this tide of oppression.The lobotmised Sarah Palin’s of this world are many and haven’t a clue.Sarah is just too stupid to see a larger picture.I don’t think Sarah has a purposeful evil intent.She like George Dubwooya are intellectually challenged.

  11. Kate  November 21, 2010 at 3:50 am

    We hate McCain and Lieberman too!

  12. Kate  November 21, 2010 at 3:45 am

    T.J.: Soros will NEVER be on the boat with me! I’m a conservative and NOT a Republican. Soros is angry that Obama and his bevy of Dims are not moving as fast as before the election, and wants him to hurry up BULLDOZE the rest of Soro’s communist, fascist agenda down our throats without wasting anymore time. Soros thinks he and the Dims were doing JUST FINE prior to the election. Soros is in effect “threatening” Obama with a replacement if he doesn’t “get on the ball”.

  13. wolf  November 21, 2010 at 3:00 am

    a prosthetic ‘pocket trout’? …nah…couldn’t be

  14. Thomas  November 21, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Dear Kate, just hope you don’t get fooled by a bunch of wingnuts in sheep’s clothing. The problems you mention above are not a creation of the progressive movement, but the inevitable consequences of Republican policies from Reagen to the Bush-whackers, and I’m sure soon to be franchised into mainstream-teaparty-repub-conservative-all the usual and all the same hocuspocus B.S.

    And now it starts all over again. Blame someone else for the problems you started. The best defense is always a good offense. Blame someone else for the war and the banks and everything else that’s gone wrong. But always remember you can and will always make it worse because you always have the big deficit card that always comes up when theirs no one left to screw. This is the most fun for many, because we really get to see the people in our country who need help the most squirm and suffer, even though we all know the problem has nothing at all to do with them.

    Excellent article Gordon, and yep, welcome to the world of wingnuts.

  15. Brian  November 21, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Did you ever wonder how the US government came up with 19 Muslim hijackers? Many of them are still alive. Many of them before the 911 tragic event reported their passports were stolen. The US government kept changing the list of Muslim hijackers. There is no evidence that any of the supposed 911 hijackers got on any of the 911 attack planes.

    Where did the 19 number come from?

    August 23, 2001: According to German newspapers, the Mossad gave the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and said that it appeared that they were planning to carry out an attack in the near future. It is unknown if these are the same exact 19 names as the actual hijackers or if the number is a coincidence. However, at least four names did refer to actual 9/11 hijackers: Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, and Mohamed Atta. [Die Zeit, 10/1/02, Der Spiegel, 10/1/02, BBC, 10/2/02, Haaretz, 10/3/02]


    Isn’t that nice, the Mossad gave the US a list of the Muslims they wanted to frame for the event. If the Mossad gave them a list of 28 then we would have been told that 28 Muslims hijacked the planes. Oh my.

  16. vinnie  November 21, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Yes we here in America have all kinds of NUTS HERE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Loose nuts that are ready to come up with another 9/11. IS–RA–HELL’S government has all kinds of wing-loose-nuts. ( BI BI IS THE WORST NUT ) Here in AMERICA we have a trader nut called CANTOR.

  17. LettuceThink  November 21, 2010 at 12:37 am

    I hope the American public is “waking up” to who’s controlling them… that’s exactly what we need. Any information as to the “why”s of Kennedy’s execution would certainly help – and also help explain the assassinations of Lady Diana, Michael Jackson, and Benazir Bhutto – all of which have a common link, if you’re clever enough to get it.

  18. Binky  November 21, 2010 at 12:13 am

    *Luke from ‘We Are Change’ (NY)

  19. Binky  November 20, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    Alex Jones was national TV in Canada a few months ago and he started talking about Princess Diana.
    (IE – Are there not any other “conspiracies” now more relevant and costing thousands of lives Alex ?)
    ( As an aside -reminded me of when Ron Paul was on the Stephen Colbert show and talked about eliminating the Post Office. Ron – How about the Fed ?!)
    Luke, from Loose Change, usually approaches famous people shouting “Bilderberg” ! Gr8.
    So, as they say in the industry, either these people are stupid – and are muddying the waters. LIHOP’s (Let it happen on purpose)
    Or they are part of the problem. MIHOP’s (Made it happen on Purpose)

  20. Craig Pepe  November 20, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    alex jones = BS

    Gordon Duff = not BS

  21. Texas Grunt  November 20, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Yeah TJ. My local handyman hardware store is loaded with wingnuts of all different sizes and colors.


  22. Binky  November 20, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Agreed. Some 9/11 sites are definitely questionable.
    There are certain sites – 9/11 Blogger for example – where if you criticize certain person’s point of view that continually appear there – you are banned.
    Huff-Po takes out your comment if they don’t think it supports the status quo.
    9/11 Booger (sp?) bans the person completely from commenting again.
    (They know too much ?)
    Raw Story doesn’t seem to ban 9/11 Truth anymore and actually HuffPo has gotten a lot better.

  23. Kate  November 20, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Just wondering….is there ANY group you don’t think is infiltrated or brainwashed, or the infiltrator themselves?

  24. Ross  November 20, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Craig Pepe,no I’m not Brian Ross.They have you all jumping at shadows.Beware the trap of miss trusting everyone and everything.There is a clear agenda here with Geraldo taking the initiative.They can no longer deny the scientific facts,so must now lead people down another path of deception.

    I take a lot of what I hear with a grain of salt.ie the derision of Alex Jones and Luke Rudowski as Israeli sympathisers.There is an agenda here of divide and conquer and you could be one of the players of mis-information.Confuse them with BS is their motto.

  25. Penumbra  November 20, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    George, you are stumbling down a blind path if you seek to make a case that Vietnam had anything to do with Kennedy’s assassination. As Nelson says, it was a direct response to his demand to Ben Gurion (who actually resigned as Israeli PM rather than receive and be forced to give official response to the demand) for disclosure of Israel’s nuclear program and complete inspections of the Dimona Nuclear Facility.

    However, the final nail in the coffin assuring Kennedy’s assassination was his signing of Executive Order 11110 and the issuance of US Notes in a move to decouple the nation from the Federal Reserve racket as a prelude to dismantling it.

    Unlike with his predecessor and last truly great President of the US, Andy Jackson, Kennedy’s assassins succeeded and Johnson immediately withdrew all non-interest bearing notes from circulation and shelved the EO.

    Interestingly enough, however, EO 11110 has never been officially rescinded or nullified, simply buried, and thus still remains an enforceable order should any President ever find the cojones to do so.

  26. Gordon Duff  November 20, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    generally good comment but.17th amendment…..the senate had become even more corrupt than today..
    special interests controlled the state houses…and senators were little more than shills for monopolies
    suspect there might be something on this in howard zinn’s people’s history

  27. Gordon Duff  November 20, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    All the labels are hollow. It is all the same game..there are several here who can explain the whole rouitine to you.
    We are all fools.

  28. Gordon Duff  November 20, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    There are only about half ADL/Mossad/Firster/Terrorist traitors in 9/11 truth.

  29. hareli  November 20, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    How do you think he kept his job?

  30. Craig Pepe  November 20, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    what he was doing

    bye bye federal reserve

  31. Brian  November 20, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    The popular 911 truth organization We Are Change has been infiltrated by Jewish Zionists. Read this interesting article:http://www.subvertednation.net/we-are-change/
    It includes information about the suspicious death of the non-Jewish founder of the organization.

    This is from a forum:

    One of the most publicized figures in the 9/11 truth movement has been Luke Rudkowski and his organization We Are Change, Rudkowski is a Jew who was one of the key figures that distracted the world for the past 4-5 years, by bull horning “9/11 was an inside job” all day long, while..


    Harrassing politicians about their attendance at Bilderberg Group meetings, this clown is known to ban people from his websites who dare mention the Jewish crime network, and is a close associate of Alex Jones and Loosechange, both disinfo agents of the Jewish crime network, he fits right in.

    This Jewish disinfo operation power structure is composed of Alex Jones at the head with Loose Change & We Are Change as the two wings. Below them are the hordes of brainwashed fanboy minions who absorb anything the aforementioned shills can conjure, and then parrot this contrived malarkey to unsuspecting cattle.

    They will surely keep people distracted and transfixed on non-issues for years to come.

  32. Craig Pepe  November 20, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    hey fix hows it going

  33. Nelson_2008  November 20, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Nobody would assassinate a President because of an abstract “fear” that he might or might not do something, especially something like supporting a pointless war.

    JFK was assassinated because of what he was doing and because of what he obviously intended to do about Israel and its fanatical partisans AND because the assassins knew that Zionist stooge Johnson was in their pocket.

  34. fixtheticket  November 20, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    there is no “rapture”,
    and all 14000 interpretations of revelations
    has sold a lot of books
    & convinced many to follow more than a few
    paths of madness

  35. fixtheticket  November 20, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Thanks Gordon Duff,
    The wingnut Queen is scary,
    she seems to be leading plenty astray,
    the next ” wrong way to go ”
    that should have been skipped.

    The Church of Eternal B.S. & War,

    The extremists,
    dedicated to radicalizing
    the populace for the next corporate agenda
    and the current agendas

  36. Ross  November 20, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Yes Gordon,wing nut is an apt description for the corp media.Lots of spin but will snap when put under real pressure.In the case to the Wingnut Queen blowing kisses to the invisible frogs,lets hope all their rivets will pop soon.

    Geraldo is trying to take the edge off http://ae911truth.org/ advertisement by saying that no way would there have been Govt complicity.So what explanation can they come up with to get the Govt off the hook.Are Bush,Cheney,Silverstein,Rumsfeld etc the patsies to take the wrap? Is the strategy now to go on the front foot and stall the whole process with lenghty investigations that go no where? If they can put their own investigators in control and exclude 911 truth groups,then they gain time and take the spotlight off the truth groups.

    I notice that Judge Napolitano ,and Ron Paul are on http://patriotquestion911.com/ There is a new one, http://militaryofficersfor911truth.com/

  37. Brian  November 20, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    I didn’t know Geraldo had Jewish ancestry.

    I found this at Wikipedia about Geraldo Rivera: Rivera’s father was Puerto Rican of Spanish ancestry and his mother is of Ashkenazi Russian Jewish descent; he was raised “mostly Jewish” and had a Bar Mitzvah.

    Is Geralso getting his orders from the Mossad? Perhaps from an elite American Jewish Zionist?

    I think Gordon once stated there are more Mossad agents in the 911 truth movement than there were FBI agents in the KKK. I agree.

  38. Craig Pepe  November 20, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    Geraldo has an artifical knee? thats news to me

    Geraldo calls for racial profiling

    He thinks its time

  39. george beres  November 20, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Corporations in control of the CIA have been responsible for murders of the Kennedys and King because they feared their opposing the Vietnam War. My research reinforces the fear Obama is subjected to the same threat of assassination. I soon will publish material that corroborates that fact, which the U.S. public has been in denial about, thus subjecting itself to more catastrophe by the very wealthy. = George Beres in Eugene, Ore.

  40. Craig Pepe  November 20, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    The -might as well be an Israeli citizen-, Napolotano with a reasonably straight face


    the Israeli citizen Geraldo RIvera:

    “…one of the most respected journalists in America…”


  41. Dan  November 20, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    In the video, Judge Napolitano spoke of Constitutional rights as being essentially contractual, and contrasted the abrogation of political contractual rights with those still enforceable under commercial law. As a Constitutional scholar, he would be thoroughly familiar with Henry Sumner Maine’s classic, Ancient Law, in which Maine makes the case that the opposite of contractual rights isn’t necessarily no rights at all, but rights based upon status. Since he failed to touch upon this, I am skeptical of his motives. In our country, groups have status, and thus protection under the state’s power to kill and confiscate, while individual citizens and out-groups have none, and are subjected to the state’s power to kill and confiscate. This ritualistic sexual groping our women, elderly, and little girls in public is merely a shot fired across the bow.

  42. Kate  November 20, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    “Progressive” has turned into a filthy word for me over the past 2 years. It equals an anti-American agenda that forces those who WORK to pay for those who DON’T, and to pay TAXES to “subsidize” foreign workers for corporations like Microsoft ($385 BILLION per year in social services and public school costs, not to mention the construction jobs lost and lower wage taxes to the states, if any.)

    The reason I single out Soros is that he’s EXTREMELY ACTIVE in using his WEALTH to subvert this nation. Now he’s jumped right in there planning how to further subvert this nation by shoving his FASCIST (Democrat) AGENDA down our throats for 2 more years. The rest of us better get busy planning how to subvert HIM!

    They work to pay for every CONTROL AGENDA the powers that be dream up to further enslave us (I see both parties with the same agenda)). shoved down our throats that we, the people said NO to.

  43. foo  November 20, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Gordon wrote:

    “These aren’t minor rights but are the basis for American society, the things that define democracy, the real spirit behind the national anthem, the flag, the pledge of allegiance and all those other things that give Americans a feeling of pride…”

    The Pledge of Allegiance states, “…and to the republic…” not “…and to the democracy…”

    (I dispute the idea that the people owe allegiance to the government; it should be the other way around. I refuse to say the Pledge of Allegiance. The point is that our government was established as a republic, not as a democracy.)

    I regard the 17th Amendment, which provided for direct election of the senators, to constitute the final nail in the coffin of the republic. It completed the transformation of “these united States” into “the United States.”

    The rationale behind the 17th Amendment was that the provision that state legislatures select the senators was “undemocratic.” It stripped “these united States” of their last vestige of sovereignty. The 17th Amendment completed the devolution of the republic that the so-called “Civil War’ started.

  44. ulysees  November 20, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Your articles keep getting better Gordon… Let’s see more on Kennedy’s execution… that and 9/11
    will crash the house of cards…

  45. David Martin  November 20, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    “Americans sat around and watched the kids they never would have played with as children, the “mamas boys” and “wimps,” the sneak thieves and snitches become “leaders of the free world” and, worst of all, phony heroes.”

    Gordon, this might be your best article and that might be the best, most perceptive sentence that you have ever written. As with the Palestinians, our best, our most courageous leaders like the Kennedys and James Forrestal have been killed off, while those you so aptly describe, the eminently blackmailable types, and those of such character that they don’t even need blackmailing, ciphers like Stalin’s “raised men,” have percolated to the top. But aren’t leaders of puppet governments in every time and every place like this? See http://www.dcdave.com/poet12/031122.html and http://dcdave.com/article4/040927.html .

  46. Gordon Duff  November 20, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    I used to believe that Soros was “progressive.” I now know better…he is simply there to contain debate. Soros and his enemies are really two heads on the same coin. Those who talk about Soros and Nancy Pelosi….are simply not brave enough to talk about McCain, Lieberman, Boehner….and so many others who are REAL

  47. Kate  November 20, 2010 at 11:58 am

    I have read enough about Soros to know that he’s behind practically every anti-American fascist plot going on in D.C. The man has to be taken down, or his funds stripped, since it appears he’s found the fountain of youth and intends to outlive all of us.

  48. Kate  November 20, 2010 at 11:54 am

    That about sums it up! Exceptional article! However, if you’re referring to the Tea Party movement in your last paragraph, I don’t agree. Where did 2002 come from? If you’re referring to the Sovereign Patriot Movement, I don’t agree there either. Both movements are steps in the right direction, and there are exceptional people and groups in both. Too bad more people aren’t aware; they’re still on the treadmill trying to feed their children and pay for the BAILOUTS to Wall Street and Israel’s wars.

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