By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

(Media Appearance Note: Senior Editor Gordon Duff will appear on The Hour, the flagship Current Affairs Program of IQRA TV. 8.30 – 9.30 pm BST, on Sundays at Channel 826, on Sky.  This program offers a serious analysis of political, social and cultural issues for a mature viewership.)

In a unique interview with an official at the highest policy levels of the Pentagon, White House and, eventually, CIA, we are offered a unique “behind the curtains” look at areas of policy making during the period between 1999 and 2007.  Extensive notes have been taken of meetings with President Bush and all his top policy advisers.  This is only a teaser.

A highly placed source within the White House and CIA confirmed, in an interview, that the invasion of Iran was scheduled for 2006 but planned in 1999.  We have heard some of this before but not with so many pieces and, I am told, more to


come. In an interview with a Bush administration policy official:

Q.  What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of your work at the White House?  You have read my articles, what do you think of my take on things?

A.  You are closer than anyone else in understanding how things worked, the only person willing to simply put it out there.  You also come at things like the Pentagon people I have worked with, the ones who stood against Bush, Cheney and the AIPAC gang at the NSC (National Security Council.)  I can also see that you don’t have background material that you need.  Some of it you have wrong, particularly the motives for Iraq.  It was always Iran, Iraq was simply a door.

“The Iraq invasion was a ‘done deal’ in 1999, but not as you thought to steal oil and bilk billions, that was all gravy.  Iraq, the entire Bush presidency, had one purpose, to remove Iran from the picture.”

Q.  You talk about journalists.  What has your experience been?

A.  I have good friends at the New York Times, Time Magazine, the Washington Post and others.  They know all of this.  They aren’t fooled.  They could write anything but it would never hit print.

Q.  Back to the 2000 election.  The first impediment was, I am told, removing John McCain from the picture.   Was this the case?


A. “He was enemy # 1, stubborn, unpredictable and already tarnished by the Keating 5 scandal, with all his faults, he didn’t have the serous skeletons in his closet that would fit the bill.  McCain couldn’t be blackmailed like Bush, thus McCain is a risk.  Unless you can be controlled, blackmailed or bought or both, you will go nowhere in Washington.

McCain is a womanizer, the real thing.  For a war hero, with McCain’s charm that’s nothing, he would never fall into the kind of trap Clinton did.  Rove was assigned the job of getting rid of McCain.  We all saw what was done in South Carolina.  It was a masterful job.”

Q. When you talk about McCain not being vulnerable, he certainly was in South Carolina, a few rumors and smears and he was gone.  You say Bush is more vulnerable?

A. “A window into a lot of this can be found in the the Rosen-AIPAC lawsuit .  Bush has serious issues, let’s just leave it at that.

As for Rosen, he just wasn’t an AIPAC lobbyist,  he sat inside the National Security Council until 2005 as the Rand Corporation’s Director of Foreign Policy.  When the press talks about an AIPAC employee and spying, he didn’t join AIPAC until later, after his arrest.

The FBI investigation and his indictment for spying covered a time when he was at the center of the Bush administration, a key policy formulator at the highest levels of government.  Rosen, indicted in 2004 for spying for Israel, was responsible for formulating American policy in the Middle East and largely responsible for the fate of the Palestinian people, a bit of a conflict of interest for an Israeli lobbyist and accused spy.”

Q. Rosen has made some accusations, says AIPAC spies all the time and that they do nothing but watch pornography there.  You worked with this guy, what do you know?

A. “Rosen has dirt on absolutely everyone.  His divorce depositions are fascinating reading.  They are sealed now but there are copies out there.  I know that reporters at Time Magazine have them, others too.  The FBI has tons, they were after Rosen for years.  As for AIPAC, Rosen told me of their spy operations many times, but nobody needed telling, they were more than obvious to all of us.

Q. You talk about Rosen and his “black book,” that he has dirt on “everyone.”  The news stories mentioned only porn.  That doesn’t sound so serious. Dirt, not just porn, what kind of dirt?

A. “Mostly sex stuff, gay bondage, clubs, expense money being spent on sex, liasons in public restrooms, that kind of thing.  Many of the key people around the president are involved and there is FBI surveillance, massive amounts of it, photographs, videos, and one or more undercover informants recorded conversations with top National Security Council members.  Spying, nuclear secrets passed to Israel, this was common place.

I witnessed, with two others, the top Bush counter-terrorism official, actally primary advisor to Bush on counter-terrorism, who had served Clinton and others, pass nuclear weapons plans to an Israeli agent, like it was nothing.”

Q. Did the FBI know about this?

A. “For years, FBI agents, I have a list of names, worked to stop this.  Then I learned that the Department of Justice killed the prosecution, Rosen’s lasted into the Obama administration before it was dropped.  Witnesses were threatened with prosecution and the guilty, the spies, were allowed to keep doing what they are doing.  This is what Rosen knows and what he is talking about when he says AIPAC was involved in spying.  It isn’t just that AIPAC is said to receive information it is that it came from top administration officials.”

Q. Let’s get back to the sex thing.  How high up does it go?

A. “One famous joke around the NSC, there was a photo of someone kissing Laura Bush on the cheek and shaking hands with President Bush.  The same person had, not that long before, using those same lips and hands in a men’s restroom.”

Q. What do you know about 9/11?

A. “9/11 was planned as early as 1999 or before, to be executed as soon as the Bush team was in place.  One meeting in April 2001, a meeting outlining the invasion of Iraq, may have been the green light.’  Chalibi was in place early on, from day number one.  I remember telling them he was a known crook, totally disreputable and that things in Iraq would fall apart immediately.  Nobody in the National Security Council ever spoke about what they would do once Saddam was overthrown.  Nobody really seemed to care.

Of course, none of those people have real experience with military issues or, in fact, much of anything else.”

Q. How was the Iran invasion supposed to work?

A. “This is where so many have it wrong.  In fact, there was never serous discussion about terrorism or Al Qaeda or bin Laden.  These things weren’t even a sideshow.  The only talk about any of it was how it could be used to justify going into Iraq and then attacking Iran.

Q. The intel on Iraq, we all know it was wrong.  When was that learned?

A. “The administration didn’t believe false intelligence, it created it, order it in place before the election to be ready for, well I guess, 9/11.  Silencing Plame and Joe Wilson, those were the same people who planned the creation of the phony intelligence.  There was never a discussion of a serious terrorist threat against the United States.  These guys would have fallen off their chairs laughing themselves to death.  It was all a joke to them, 9/11, the Iraq invasion, all of it.”

Q. Back to Iran, how was the invasion to start?

A. “Everything was going to happen in Bahrain.  Plans were to attack Americans, blow up clubs, restaurants.  There were plans to stage a “Tonkin Gulf’ type attack and blame it on Iranian torpedo boats.  Guys in the military were aware of this and there was strong opposition.   Marine Colonel Joe Molofsky was the real hero here.  He did more to scramble administration plans than anyone else, Molofky and General Mattis.  These were really straight shooters, how I learned to trust the Marine Corps.

The government there, their security services, I believe they were deeply involved.  It would have been good to see something about this in Wikileaks.”

Q. You said that war had to start by 2006.  Was there a timetable?

A. “Absolutely.  General Petraeus was sent to Iraq to quiet things down, not to win a war or create a lasting peace, nothing like that.  His job was to shut things down so an operation against Iran could be staged from Iraq.”

Q. But that never got off the ground…

A. “No kidding, and Bush was enraged.  It was the only reason he was put in office in the first place, as long as Iran survived, he was a failure, no matter what happened to the US.”

Q. Didn’t they know that war with Iran would have driven oil to $300 a barrel and collapsed the American economy?

A. “There were never briefings on that like there were never briefings on stabilizing Iraq.  Nobody cared, nobody noticed and it was never discussed.  It was really all about Iran and orders came in and people did what they were told like good little soldiers.”

Q. Orders?  From where?

A. “All of it, all foreign policy issues, were out of AIPAC, they ran everything in the Bush administration.  That was the whole point of it.  We never were told why we had to destroy Iran only that it had to be done.  Nobody ever asked why.  Nobody ever believed Iran had a credible nuclear program and, eventually, we were all very certain they never would.  There was never an issue about Iran being a threat or not.  There was never an issue of motive of any kind.  These were orders, plain and simple, the administration that will come into office in 2001 will be tasked with destroying Iran, tasked by AIPAC who will control all key position in the administration.”

Q. Was there talk about Lebanon and the threat of Hizbollah?

A. “There really weren’t talks at all, only planning on how to follow policy, never on what policy should be or what was right or wrong.  There was never a discussion about the United States, what was good for America or bad for America.  People were generally oblivious to there being an America.”

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  1. Howard T.Lewis III  November 8, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    Israel has a boss and it is not ‘God’. Nor is it ‘pretty boy’ Netanyahu.

  2. smacko  December 8, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    The Treasonous Dollar Drain


    The Wall Street Pentagon Papers:
    Biggest Scam In World History Exposed?

    Can you imagine what we could do to restructure society with $12.3 trillion?
    Think about that.

    People also can’t grasp the colossal crime committed because they keep
    hearing the word “loans.” People think of the loans they get. You borrow
    money, you pay it back with interest, no big deal.

    That’s not what happened here. The Fed doled out $12.3 trillion in near-zero
    interest loans, using the American people as collateral, demanding nothing
    in return, other than a bunch of toxic assets in some cases. They only gave
    this money to a select group of insiders, at a time when very few had any
    money because all these same insiders and speculators crashed the system.

    Do you get that? The very people most responsible for crashing the system,
    were then rewarded with trillions of our dollars. This gave that select
    group of insiders unlimited power to seize control of assets and have
    unprecedented leverage over almost everything within their economies – crony
    capitalism on steroids.


    The Two-Party Oligarchy Vs. The People
    http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=nVef9w9W0cprdshM7Ayi8%2BdexX36GWMi’ defer=’defer

    AIPAC: The Voice of America?

  3. sharkey  December 8, 2010 at 8:57 am

    “9/11 was planned as early as 1999 or before, to be executed as soon as the Bush team was in place” Do you think this was in part to cover their tracks? This along with Afghanistan, which is also to be said to be planned, were they getting rid of their assets OBL and Hussein? And why did it take so long to set the stage for Iran, what was the major snag for the lag? Can’t wait for the next edition. Thank you Gordon

  4. george beres  December 8, 2010 at 1:15 am

    While we have to be aware of official AIPAC operatives, the most dangerous in my experience have been those who work undercover, subtly brainwashing Americans in behalf of Israel and against Muslims. A current controversy in Oregon relates to such an undercover figure and his temporary appointment to teach his supposed expertise, Islam, at Lane Community College in Eugene. I am familiar witch data that has come from him, and it is easy to recognize the lies that befuddle gullible Americans in behalf of Israel. Many Jewish-Americans I know fuel Israeli militarism with money, and have seduced fundamentalist Christians to support Israeli victimizing of Palestinians. Their way is smoothed by success in bribing many U.S. Congresspersons and Senators to give full support to Israel. The bribes are legal in our cancerous elections system, where massive amounts of private money can be donated to the election campaigns of candidates of both major parties. =
    George Beres

  5. Lem G.  December 7, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    If you have ANY friends in the IRS, OMB & GAO, have them trace the flow of money into and out of AIPAC. “Follow the money, the rats & cockroaches always scurry for the cracks in the wall when a bright light hits them in the darkness.”
    The names are one thing, the sources and exchanges of millions of what can only be described as BRIBES & extortion cash are quite another. The financial paper trail would inevitably lead to some rather interesting international HQ’s.

  6. neal perrochet  December 7, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    the “source” pointing to israel as being “the” perpetrator through aipac seems a bit shallow in the greater historical dynamic of this larger war plan. Maybe you should have shown a picture of Bush kissing the Pope’s crusader hand. This is too much like Wayne Madsen (“according to highly placed sources”). You don’t need official sources, real or created to figure any of this out. This smacks of Wickin Leaks?

    It is good to see another opinion that states conclusively that Iraq is a springboard and one is certain that this gigantic military base , Iraq that is, is better maintained as this springboard with a fractionalized destroyed culture engaged in continuos internecine strife (like Korea) in order to justify and maintain the occupation. At the outset of the first invasion of Iraq under Bush senior, I made many attempts to caution about the “its about oil” official left position and made clear reference for spring board into Africa (AFricom et al). Strategic resources are not just about oil and it also involves human slave capital among other things and it would be refreshing for someone to provide analysis in this regard. Chalmers Johnson is dead, someone who could have articulated the mega base concept for fortress Iraq well enough, what a loss. Thank you Mr. Marine Duff. Neal Perrochet Tokyo Japan

    complete recolonization of USA at hand, just one aspect. This is NOT just about USA and Israel



    • sharkey  December 8, 2010 at 10:22 am

      Avatar is becoming truer and truer. Obama the friendly face.

  7. Floridatexan  December 7, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    OK, Gordon, I’m teased. Bring on the rest of it. Thanks for all you do.

  8. Erica  December 7, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Those paying attention to the sequence of events and the rationale being given would have to have been totally brainwashed by those Evangelical con men and political propaganda.
    After Iraq it was evident Bush was uncomfortable, like a spoiled rich kid the commander in chief game and war hero was not fun any more BUT, as stated in this article someone pushed. Many of us did not know at the time it was AIPAC, we did know it was Israel, Sharon. The issue now is clear, we need no further evidence we accept the fact that we have been invaded by a race of people with values alien to our culture. Even for Evangelical brainwashed Christians its should not be difficult to sober up, read their Bible and ask themselves the true reason Jesus was sent to Earth. I am a Catholic Agnostic so it is easy for me to see the conflict of evidence presented by zealous religions. Brutally stated those chosen people had reverted to their natural instinct of deceit, love of gold and a totally amoral view of how to obtain what they want. They survived and trived, proliferated and gained convert like the Khazar and took control of the marrow from other nations. The issue now is how do we get rid of them. Keeping in mind that the real Jews of the Bible till exists, mostly Sephardic, but they also are prisoners of these ravenous entities that thrive in destruction.
    My words are odds but I did my best to show metaphorically the horrible situation facing this nation. What can we do? Staying with our values we could demand a line item veto on Congress. It could be done by Referendum. It has been done before at the Federal level. It is something worth working for and the only way we the people can control our legislation. And obviously do not elect dual loyalty people.

    • Floridatexan  December 7, 2010 at 3:03 pm

      What exactly is a “Catholic agnostic”?

  9. Rich Besco  December 6, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    9/11 Truth is the frayed thread that when finally pulled, will unravel the whole ugly sweater that we’ve all been so embarassed to be wearing for so long. Come on, quit cutting the thread off with scisssors and trying to finesse the thread back into the weave. C’mon, go ahead and give it a good tug! You know you really want to.


  10. Lawrence A Dickerson  December 6, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    While reading this suspenseful article I came down to the picture of gay men,bikers,German Neo Nazis or whatever,titled:

    “White House Insiders Plan War on Terror”!!!

    You take it from here.This picture is in the VT library and was posted in Dec.2005.

  11. John B. Egan  December 6, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    First.. You need to add a “Tweet This’ button to your webpage/blog. A link to several methods: http://www.webcooltips.com/how-to-add-a-retweet-button-in-your-blog.html

    Secondly… Thank you for posting what I’ve been saying for years. Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were purposely designed to contain and intimidate Iran. All the other excuses were basically lies as were the reasons for entering these two countries. The telling moment occurred when Clinton handed the keys to Bush Jr and said ‘Al Qaeda is our enemy’ and Bush Jr responded…’No! Iran is.’ You only have to look at a map (which I’ve posted on Twitter in the past to see that aside from nations friendly to us, Afghanistan and Iraq were the only open land bordering Iran. These 2 countries completed the circle.

    Nice job.. Get that Retweet button set up!

  12. Rehmat  December 6, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    The revelation has no surprises for me. I wrote in December 2009 that Israel is indeed behind US conflicts with Iran, Lebanon, Turkey and Syria.


  13. john  December 6, 2010 at 10:51 am

    so what will american people do to Aipac now, knowing that it orders and runs the USA forigen policy? very intresting story

  14. Anne  December 6, 2010 at 9:18 am

    when will the world sanction this nutty regime called israel? now they try to start another war based on lies just like in Iraq.

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