By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Those “in the know” have long since picked up the fact that Wikileaks is a game, or “game theory warfare” as Jeff Gates puts it.  The players, a Rothschild law firm, the pro-Israel gang at the New York Times, Guardian and Der Spiegel and the Mossad.  The leaks have been, as Zbigniew Brzezinski puts it, a combination of chickenfeed and “seeded, pointed material” from an “intelligence agency.”  Now we are told by Wayne Madsen and others that Wikileaks has UFO materials and is going to buy its way out of the “dog house” with them.

Wikileaks was Israel.  Now, Wikileaks is going to be X-Files.

What can we expect, what is in the UFO files of the United States Air Force?

UFO secrets have been the Holy Grail of the intelligence community since 1947 and the Roswell landing or Roswell crash, more appropriately, in New Mexico.  The Air Force initially released a story of a “flying saucer” landing but, in an almost “military” manner, clumsy and “ham handed,” rescinded its own reports and screamed “weather balloon.”  I was at Wurtsmith AFB in October 1973, a “national secret,” when the UFO flyover happened there.  This “national secret” was, at the time, witnessed by thousands of people, reported on TV, newspapers and joked about by everyone but the Air Force personnel that a 300 foot flaming “whatever” traveling at Mach 1.5 scared the bejeezus out of.

They later reported that one as a “weather balloon” also.  It was seen flying 2000 miles across the United States, burning like the sun the entire way.  I believe them.  It was a weather balloon.  I just want to know what it was made of.  I want everything I own to be made out of that stuff.

For years, the reports have been of the Air Force adapting UFO technology at the Area 51 base in Nevada, triangular aircraft capable of unusual maneuvers with some type of drive capable of using aspects of physics I won’t begin to describe.  Dozens, maybe even hundreds of movies, books and television shows have been made about this subject or various derivations of the Majestic 12 document, the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” of the UFO world.

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These stories, true or not, national secrets or conspiracy theory of such power and breadth as to become a major cultural phenomena, are old news, long debunked by “debunkers” long proven to be unreliable, untruthful and untrustworthy.  Welcome to uncertainty.

Where there is uncertainty, there is also something to hide.  The rumor wouldn’t be “out there” unless it had power of some kind.  Accept the fact that something startling  may or may not be released to the public, depending on whether some agenda of Wikileaks or Wikileaks and Israel, is met.

Can America’s UFO secrets force an attack on Iran?  This is the kind of game that could be played here.


For decades, Air Force pilots have told of UFO’s.  Even America’s astronauts have seen them, up close and personal.  The number of reports, “close encounters” of one kind or another, 1 through 4, number in the tens of thousands.  The number of UFO witnesses who can be considered “extremely credible” is over 1000.  Many world governments consider UFOs a real threat and are, occasionally, public about it.

Whenever I receive “rumors,” and they flood in from the Air Force like anything, I try to consider why I am being told what I am being told.  Everyone has an agenda.  Destroying the credibility of a journalist is a joke.  I report on people who are narcissists, sociopaths and degenerates and these are our civilian and military leaders.  Is something going to make me seem worse, worse than Bush and Cheney?  I don’t think so.

This is the extent of what I am being told by people who are responsible parties, Air Force officers, folks normally seen as having “the right stuff.”

  • America has UFO technology and aircraft that perform well beyond anything the public imagines
  • some aspect of the fictional version, be it Men in Black or X Files, isn’t fiction

Is this where Wikileaks is going?


The Wiki-rumors talk about UFO, Nazi Germany and a base in Antarctica.  There is a reference, from several sources, of some kind of UFO war.  I know absolutely nothing about this but…

This is what I was told by sources who had known escaped Nazi elite:

During the war, Hitler had been in contact with aliens.  Some sort of agreement or arrangement was made.  A base was built in Antarctica.  Germany had build a “complimentary” facility in Chile which existed until well after the war.  The “Nazi/Space Alien” base in Antarctica was also controlled by the Nazis and, at some point, by Nazis and Americans, well after the end of the war.

I know of people alive today, folks serious as a “heart attack,” who claim to have visited these facilities.  These are “ratline” people.

Now many of us are being told that Wikileaks has materials referencing exactly this.


My first recommendation is to not listen to me at all.  I don’t really trust anyone.  Oh.  I am now “Mulder” of X Files.  Didn’t he always say that:  “Trust no one.”

Good advice, trust no one.  I certainly don’t trust Wikileaks, not because everything they say is false, some certainly is, but because Wikileaks has been “outed” as having an agenda.


I can make assumptions, predictions, that I seem to be good at.  The Air Force is keeping something from us and someone, finally, has gotten into their “underwear drawer.”  Every high official, more than a few presidents included, has sought the secret UFO files.  Carter, Reagan, Gore, others, have claimed these files exist but were denied access to them.

Is the truth so unpleasant, so disgusting that it can’t be revealed?

This is a probability.

Everything points that direction, what is seen and proven, the rumors, the secrecy, and now the threat from Wikileaks.

What I do know is that what we will be told.  Unless the United States relinquishes defacto control of our military forces to the State of Israel, Julian Assange is going to unleash his stockpile of UFO documents.

The sign that the United States has surrendered will be increased rhetoric from President Obama over Iran’s peaceful nuclear program and, at some point, the false flag attack on American forces in the Persian Gulf that the Bush administration was prevented from enacting in 2007.

We watch, we wait, but do we believe?

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  1. Samuel  January 4, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I think you can cut to the chase, the man made triangle UFOs:

  2. OS  December 23, 2010 at 1:39 am

    In 1978,

    In deep forest in Washington State was on patrol with about 30 Army Rangers. It was about 2:00am in the morning, located in deep pine, we decided to setup perimeter for the night. This was nothing new, been around wolves, bears, you name it, about 45 minutes later one of the Rangers starting screaming. Several others had to carry him to the center of parameter. He was going into shock, said he seen some creator that came within 10 meters from him, he had to be carried out and transported to hospital. This was an experienced Ranger. And the problem, this was the second time this occurred within two years, the same incident with another person and other patrol.

    The incidents were kept confidential, and were never officially reported.

  3. Texas Vet  December 22, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Good post, Distractions. I especially like the police officer’s experience. I, my family and our neighborhood saw something very similar in the 1950s. It was a mind-boggling display of acrobatics.

    In terms of credibility, my Dad was a WWII Vet and Officer of the Law. All he could say was,”Holy Shit!” My little brother flew F4 Phantoms in Nam. My older brother was a pilot who got a top secret clearance in one of the ‘Agencies’. I guess I was the least credible of the bunch — with my higher than Top Secret clearance, numerous technical degrees and years of experiece in these esoteric areas.

    All I do is laugh about those years now, except for my frequency shifting meditation to explore further.

    Smile, it’s Christmas! 🙂 T.V.

  4. Steve  December 22, 2010 at 11:55 am

    “A mere 10-100 thousand years to colonize the entire galaxy…”, eh? Your source of that data, please? Well, maybe not.

    At any rate, your argument here isn’t very strong. You can’t seem ’em, therefore they don’t exist.

    What if our hypothetical aliens were really, really tiny? Or big? Or underwater? Underground? Or visible only in a wavelength we can’t see? Or really, really fast? Or capable of assuming familiar shapes, like clouds, or bugs, or maybe some skateboarder?

    If you would allow that some aliens could create “self-duplicating intelligent machines,” wouldn’t you concede that they might be able to do some of the things I mentioned, above, or even more trick stuff none of us can even begin to imagine – so you wouldn’t be aware of their presence at all?

    But no, I guess you’d need to see some big transformer thingy, all silvery and glowing, towering in a field somewhere, or hanging in the sky, ’cause that’s how Hollywood would do it, right?

    Well, stay tuned. Somebody is probably working on just that project.

    In the meanwhile, as far as I know, no alien civilization has told us much about how they do would things, but I rather suspect that their needs and interests, to say nothing of their machines and technology, might be a tad different from ours, perhaps beyond recognition.


  5. Leon  December 22, 2010 at 2:57 am

    It would take a technically advanced extraterrestrial civilization a mere 10-100 thousand years to colonize the entire galaxy with self-duplicating intelligent machines.
    Those machines aren’t here.
    Therefore, technically advanced civilizations probably do not exist in our entire galaxy. We are alone.

    The modern alien of western mythology displays a curious fetish for the U.S. military.

  6. Texas Grunt  December 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Duff’s Article => “I know of people alive today, folks serious as a “heart attack,” who claim to have visited these facilities. These are “ratline” people.”

    T.G. => I remember growing up in a German Catholic family in America. Pope Pius XII was a hero for finding escape paths and safety for so many ‘political escapees’ from Germany. The world “ratline” — if you will — was never used, but for the love of me, I don’t remember the German name expression that was bandied about the households.

    There was a German submarine sunk off the South Texas coast that was recently rediscovered by an oil recovery Company. I believe they left it alone as a natural graveyard. It has long been rumored that German skeletons of every age group would be found inside, including children. I would guess that not all surviving ‘ratliners’ knew what the potential risks were when they were shipped out of the Fatherland. I’ll bet the trip could have been as scary as crap. I’ll bet the trip would have been like being in an alien UFO!


  7. Tea Partier  December 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Hey T.V., is it your East Texas friend’s motto “Let thine be single and thy whole body shall be filled with light?” Further, were the Marfa lights really Moofa lights? Good thing it’s Christmas — the holidays all you non-believers!

    yours untruly, T.P.

  8. Distractions  December 21, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Stuffed if I know one way or the other, I have never seen one to my knowledge and have not been fortunate enough to have had a liason with a gorgeeous blonde alien female. (that I can remember!)

    But; In most court cases people are either acquitted or convicted on verbal reports; e.g. ‘she consented’. ‘no I did not’ and so on.

    So verbal reports of observatoins are accepted each day with serious consequences.

    Accounts of UFO’s are often verbal and one has to gauge the credibility of the report and the claimant, objectively.

    Well, here is one in short: I was told by a police officer, who became an assistant commisioner, that he watched ‘ufos’ for three hours one night, prior to 1978, over ‘outback’ NSW in Australia. One big one that remained static and smaller ones comming and going from the big one. I quizzed him about it 15 years after the initial conversation and he confirmed the account. At that time he had risen to assistant commisioner and later, retired and admitted into the practice of law.

    What can I say? Is he lying, having a joke? My estimate is that he was truthfull in his description, but who knows what he saw?

    As an aside; in the 1970’s he was with one of the ‘toughest’ outfits in the Police force dealing (successfully) with major criminals.

  9. Selby  December 21, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    You neglect to mention the National Press Club statment of six retired Air Force officers, all reporting UFO flyovers at missle bases that coincided with disabling of the nukes. It was carried live on C-Span, 9-27-10.

    You should listen to Robert G. Dean on YouTube if you haven’t already. 81 years old, retired US Army Command Sgt. Major, had a COSMIC security clearance while attached to the NATO headquarters. There’s nothing about Hitler-alien contacts, “little green men” or other straw targets. Just good straight talk — as I usually find on your website.

  10. Texas Vet  December 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Thanks, Pen — Strange balls of light are very common in the Big Thicket area of East Texas. Probably left over Frenchmen from a few hundred years ago. You might also look up the Marfa lights in Marfa, Texas. I don’t know if they all have eyeballs though. Finally, there was an interesting, modern book called ‘In the Big Thicket on the Trail of the Wild Man’ — modern stories of giant, hairy wild men and more strange lights.

    Fun reading for the holidays. Have a good week or two.

    Texas Vet

  11. reeseisaplant  December 21, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    That last statement about the military tackling “how to divert bad weather on to our enemies” has been in the works for over 25 years since Edward Teller was teaching the new psycho’s in charge like Holdren and his geoengineering climate change making bandits like Ken Caldieri and the rest of the Bill Gates funded eugenicists can easily be researched. Google the military paper over a decade old now called “Owning the Weather by 2025” and read what the military has in store.

    For someone who seems to post regularly here, you sure don’t seem to have learned a single thing. That is why you must be a shill. Or just in dire need of a friend, girlfriend, and/or meds.

  12. Bubba  December 21, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    It wouldn’t surprise me if UFOs were real, here on Earth. They definitely exist somewhere in the universe. It wouldn’t surprise me if a UFO crashed in Roswell (why should aliens be any better at flying than us). Human civilization would definitely interest any locally based aliens since we have the ability to travel off world and project power over great distances. It would only be a matter of time before we would develop the ability to anhialate alien civilizations located nearby in the galaxy (to wit, Voyager I just left the solar system forever and will reach the equivalent of the nearest star in another 50 years – it may sound fanciful to people who have limited life spans, but if Voyager had a nuclear warhead attached, it might be of great concern to any nearby civilizations). If there are nearby space faring civilizations, I’m sure they are keeping a close eye on us since we declared ourselves a nuclear species some 65 years ago. The electromagnetic pulse from one of our nuclear weapons would be easily detectable by any nearby civilizations who were listening.

  13. Penumbra  December 20, 2010 at 2:40 am

    Flashing? Intergalactic fuzz?

    Your license, registration and a DNA sample, Earthlings!

  14. Texas Grunt  December 20, 2010 at 1:31 am

    I ain’t ever seen little green men except in an old movie, and come to think of it, it was a black and white movie. But I saw some hot looking little women dressed in green all over S.E. Asia. They scared the crap out of me.

    Texas Grunt.

  15. Steve  December 19, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Charles, the fact that aliens may exist, and even hang-out on/around/in/under Earth does not exclude the possibility that powerful humans will attempt to deceive us by pretending to be those aliens.

    Don’t some humans claim to speak for God? Their words may be false, but that fact alone does not preclude the possible existence of a god or gods.

    Trolls, elves, fairies, sprites, devils, demons, succubi…ET?

    Who knows?

  16. Steve  December 19, 2010 at 11:45 am

    I have a little trouble getting past the notion that the Nazis teamed up with ET, but still managed to lose the war. This is Hollywood logic, or more precisely, a Hollywood flight of logic. It doesn’t compute, so it’s simply skipped over. The mass media regularly do this too.

    For (a big) example: Bush twice stated he first learned of 9/11 by watching the crash on TV. Since the media didn’t talk about it much, or ask any tough questions, the obvious gaffe by Bush doesn’t exist in the minds of most. That’s why some derisively refer to our species as Sheeple. Canned Laughter. They even tell you when to chuckle.

    The Nazi-ET story here could serve several purposes:

    1) A cover story to conceal the fact that some technology has been acquired through the recovery of crashed alien craft.

    2) Conceal that we are shooting at ET.

    3) Red Herring in the form of a limited hang-out with a few tasty morsels scattered leading away from the main course.

    4) Sets up ET to be demonized by association with the Nazis. (Ah, ha! Now we know why/how those 6 million Jews vanished without a trace: they were taken to Uranus on Hitler’s UFO!)

    4) Sets-up all the straight men, dupes, suckers, and Bible-thumpers for the Big Super-duper Cosmic Dog & Pony Show some are predicting.

    As they’ve done with god, I expect that the “authorities” will try to co-opt ET.

    With so many willing to base their religious beliefs on the words in a book of questionable provenance, I’m not optimistic about the aftermath of the big spectacular if it comes down. It doesn’t take much to fool the very many gullible humans. However, as someone said, but not Lincoln:

    You can’t fool all the people all the time.

    Unfortunately, many of the most gullible ones are also heavily armed

    About Stuart Symington: “Symington was also committed to constituent services, answering letters from Missouri citizens both important, trivial, and sometimes even zany. As an example, Symington once formally requested a report from military sources regarding the possible existence of subterranean superhumans, which one of his constituents had become concerned about after reading a fiction book and mistaking it for non-fiction.”

    Uh huh.

    More Hollywood logic, courtesy of Wiki.

  17. tim  December 19, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I’m an Electrical Engineer, too! What do you think of “the Phoenix Lights”? The real thing or an extrodinary hologram?

  18. Texas Vet  December 19, 2010 at 3:35 am

    There is one story in the book “Weird Texas” found at Barnes and Noble, about a friend of mine who had a real weird experiece in East Texas in the area where the shattered Space Shuttle ended up crashing.

    Pieces of the shuttle are still being found in the East Texas woods, especially in the north end of the Big Thicket are.

    To keep the suspense, my friend and his wife were driving down the highway some months after the crash when they were approached at high speed by a flashing light ball—the size of a soccer ball—with an eyeball, well… eyeballing them.

    My friend is a very serious technologist. In fact, his last Chinese Restaurant fortune cookie message said he has a really active and creative mind. You can put those last two statements together any way you like — especially since he’s a Vet who avidly reads Veterans Today.


  19. Charles G.  December 19, 2010 at 3:20 am

    Especially, Foo, if that holographic image was warped to look like a giant, non-kosher, four-legged critter in the sky.

    Charlie the California Vegetarian

  20. Charles G.  December 19, 2010 at 3:17 am

    Tommy, I personally have every reason to suspect ‘project blue beam’ is another science dreamer’s hopeful hoax. UFOs have been seen for ages, far beyond any concept of any One World Order, unless it was Cesar’s.

    You might want to contemplate on Texas Vet’s comments.

    But keep believing and writing. It’s cool.

    Charlie from California

  21. Texas Vet  December 19, 2010 at 12:14 am

    I swear I double checked my post. I spelled Astronomy, not Astromy. @hit, the Illuminati must be after the Internet, now. 🙂

  22. Texas Vet  December 19, 2010 at 12:11 am

    TJ, I’m sure it’s JPL’s fault (Jet Propulsion Labs for the uninitiated). I’d enjoy seeing your pictures one day. I’ve witnessed the same kind of strangeness.


  23. Texas Vet  December 19, 2010 at 12:07 am

    John: “I don’t give a rat’s ass about juvenile Twitter.. Reminds me of the juvenile CB craze in the mid ’70′s.”

    Now, I love John’s comment. Maybe its irrelevancy to this topic(s) is why I keep coming back to it. Unless little green peoples invented Twitter?

  24. Texas Vet  December 19, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Well said, V. I give your Astromy lecturer an A+. And you, an A for grasping his points.


  25. Texas Vet  December 18, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    OK TJ, I guess I’ll have to read Greer’s “Disclosure”. But, who looks like and Alien? Greer or Corso?


  26. Tommy  December 18, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Yes Brother, the annunaki warlords who have been running the planet for thousands of years pulling the strings of their minion illuminati knew thousands of years ago this 2012 time period was coming and it would be their end time, not ours. They directed and guided civilizations over the course of time as mankind progressed to keep everyone in the dark ages in their mind-

    Everything they do is a false flag to attract attention to what they wish you to see, and distract your attention away from what they do not want you to see. It all is nothing personal – they just don’t like us. They are an unemotional very intelligent bad ass negative ET race who uninvitedly interfered and enslaved the planet through genetic manipulation and mind control for total domination.

    The negative ET’s are vibrating at a low frequency and knew they could not ascend when the time came, because their frequency would not be resonating high enough to catch the photonic superwave when it came. Through history with the use of religion they painted a parallel story for the masses about this time period to lead everyone down another trail to keep everyone in judgment for the 2012 time period. If anyone is holding onto any judgment or any kind of fear whatsoever for example, they will not be able to ascend to a new earth in 5d.

    Judgment, fear, anger, blaming, accusing, finger pointing, doubt, etc. are all low vibrating frequencies and it all has to be cleared in the individual should they choose to ascend and evolve to a higher state of being, there is no judgment about it, it is always anyone’s freewill to choose. That is why the illuminati indoctrinated everyone to be in judgment about your own oneness with everything there is, to separate mankind for divide and conquer. It is a frequency war – only in your mind to keep you in a state of war because they are blood thirsty freaks. Don’t judge them either – just love and forgive them and they will go away. That is the secret and the trick – Stop the war in your mind – give it up –

    They knew our benevolent ET family was coming at this end of time ( the construct of time itself, not life) in order to help mother earth evolve, so the annunaki / illuminati needed to scare the population into thinking they were bad children in order to hang onto their rule over mankind with the use of their holograhic technology – so you would be confused about what was actually taking place at this momentous time in earths history about the real ET agenda when the good guys finally decloaked.

    It is a fact, the light always wins out over the dark, it is a done deal and the dark freaks running the world right now are kicking and screaming because enough people have become enlightened to their dog and pony show and don’t believe their false flag programs anymore.

    Most of the population has not, though enough have in order to tip the scale – thanks to the internet – it was their demise for mans awakening – word can finally get around where people can know the truth about all the lies they have been telling us for eons of time. Everything you think you know is a total and complete lie from hell. It is all about to turn around- you just need to get in a good mood – in preparation for an even better mood.

    It is time to celebrate – the good times are about to role – dispite the outer circumstances appearing on the illuminati mindsucker TV. Turn away from it and do not believe it, that is your challange. It is all fear pornography to keep you in a state of fear and survival vibrating in a low frequency. Rise up get in a good mood, peace on earth is about to happen and lots of abundance.

    That is what is going on. Your outer world is the illusion, it is all a bunch of BS to trick your mind. A very expensive elaborate dog and pony show you happen to call your life to subjugate the population – Figure it out – it is the matrix, the movie they showed you was real, not fiction. Everything is in reverse of what you were trained to think – everything works out when you look at it in reverse –

  27. Ken Rechtstein  December 18, 2010 at 11:08 am

    As long as the organs are not ovaries and uterus, it does affect the orthodoxy of “Is Jewish, who is put into this world by a Jewish womb”. The father’s ethnicity ain’t important.

  28. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 11:04 am


  29. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 11:02 am

    the problem here would be a lot of idiots would think he looks like JOHN HAGEE

  30. Ken Rechtstein  December 18, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Tom, well said and I must add AIPAC grip on Congress-Senate-White House and Wailing Wall Street Vacuum Cleaning our saving and jobs.

    Army Vet appears to be living in an other planet and oblivious to reality.

  31. Vronsky  December 18, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Let’s apply a little reasoning to this, courtesy of my old astronomy lecturer. The earth has been around for about 4.5 billion years, and will survive for another 4.5 billion. If you represent the age of the earth by the height of the Eiffel tower, then humans have been around for a length of time equivalent to a penny placed on top of the tower, technological civilisation for the thickness of a postage stamp on top of that penny. That means to say that if we meet another technological civilisation it is overwhelmingly more likely to be be millions of years older than us than to be near the same age and state of development – we are that primitive, that young.

    It isn’t possible to take seriously a suggestion that we could reverse-engineer technologies from millions of years into the future. Imagine the difficulties when the gap is just a few thousand years – if you travelled back in time and gave a laptop computer to an ancient Greek, would he be able to examine it, figure out how it worked, then build his own? He may have the brains, but he hasn’t the physics, he hasn’t the maths, hew hasn’t the materials, he hasn’t got electricity and he hasn’t any of the innumerable different manufacturing technologies. There are simple cases where he just wouldn’t know why something worked – just go back 50 years, and no-one would would be able to tell the difference between silicon and ion-implanted silicon, let alone build a machine to do the implantation.

  32. Tom  December 18, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Army vet: you just lost any credibility you might had with this post. Can’t you see that zios PWNS USofA? 2 long wars for Israel are not enough to prove it?

  33. brother  December 18, 2010 at 6:20 am

    Do you guys remember the Carol Rosen interviews from a few years back. She was assistant to Werner Von Braun before he died. She claimed he repeatedly told her the last false enemy would be extraterrestrials.

    First was Russia/cold war, second terrorists and last but not least–space aliens.


  34. kate  December 18, 2010 at 6:16 am

    The source for this would seem to be the q.& a. session Assange did on the Guardian where he wrote –

    ‘Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
    1) that the documents not be self-authored;
    2) that they be original.
    However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.’

    Sounds very much like being ‘annoyed by … false conspiracies such as 911’

  35. foo  December 18, 2010 at 6:07 am

    A humorous aside on this subject.

    It was proposed that an image of Allah could be projected, to scare Muslims into surrendering. And then some killjoy squashed that idea, by informing the planners that, because of Islam’s absolute prohibition against idolatry, Muslims have no idea of what Allah looks like!

  36. Tommy  December 18, 2010 at 5:01 am

    They already have it – it’s called project bluebeam – look it up – they are way ahead of you – laboratory science is a cover just like nasa and cannot help you – the secret gov can get to the moon in an hour – they have been to every planet in the solar system – they have bases on mars – they are way ahead of what they are telling you in the owned and controlled illuminati news feeds to keep you dumbed down just like everything else you were taught to be-lie-ve in – your whole entire life as you have come to know it is one big fat conspiracy from hell on wheels – make no mistake about it –

  37. Tommy  December 18, 2010 at 4:40 am

    Thanks TJ – kate, ET disclosure is absolutely not bunk – it is the biggest cover up of all time – it will open up a whole bunch of cans of worms that are keeping you a slave on prison planet earth, to release your anus from tyranny so you can live happy, joyous and free, as it should have been all along –

    The disinformation campaign against disclosure is an incredible force made to get you ridiculed because you would believe in such a thing. They are human and are not out to scare you like the current regime involved with a nefarious agenda like the secret governments project bluebeam –

    The galactics role is to help prepare your anus for earths ascension – so you can rise up out of the ditch of the lower vibrating energies of fear and of deadlines and survival where the illuminati are keeping you. All that old chit is about to go away for good.

    The world is about to get very good and not the other way around as your illuminati owned and controlled news feeds have you believing. They can’t tell you the truth, they can only report the news. Big difference. All of the tyrants and criminals of the dark cabal on the planet keeping your life a living hell are being rounded up right now and will be leaving the stage very soon.

    It could not be done without the galactics help. Your skepticism is not very be-coming from your anus. You need to raise your individual vibrational resonance frequency rate if you desire to ascend to a higher state of consciousness.

    Your bad attitude won’t allow you evolve out of the wheels of karma, because you keep magnetizing the same garbage back to yourself on an endless loop. You need to understand what is taking place on another level so you are able to transform your consciousness from that bunky attitude – that is what 2012 is all about. It is in your thinking alone –

    That you rise up out of your negativity of being a smarty pants in a unity consciousness with others in harmony. Right now you can’t do it because you are continuing to behave like a good and considerate obedient slave thinker – The illuminati thanks you from the bottom of their blood thirsty ritualistic hearts for not screaming too loud, when they ask you to bend over to grab your ankles to see youranus –

  38. OS  December 18, 2010 at 4:14 am

    I know when to stop, telephone call.

  39. OS  December 18, 2010 at 4:11 am

    People need to see, providing technical solution.

  40. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 3:40 am

    nick name, magic spears, like mach 50 or something , glowing like the light bulb filament , 4inch diameter x 40….50 feet length

  41. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 3:35 am

    tungsten “rods from god..”

  42. Penumbra  December 18, 2010 at 2:46 am

    Fear not TJ, neither Assange nor Wikidrips mess with my head because I don’t give them a moment of intellectual energy or credence.

    Plenty of viable, incriminating information of the long-running crimes and machinations of the sociopathic “elite” has been publicly available long before wikidrips ever appeared on the horizon. It’s completely unnecessary to any dedicated researcher.

    Notwithstanding that, my own time spent in the international political/military nexus in Brussels provided me ample firsthand witness to the lies and propaganda these villains exude from their very pores.

    Even if they DO exist, and much that is bizarre exists under the sun, truth after all is often stranger than fiction. Nevertheless I maintain that it’s not our first order of concern and only serves to once again divert public attention away from the most imminent earthly threat that has already crept in every corner of our lives and psyches and seeks to use us and throw us away for the furtherance of a relatively small number of megalomaniacs (though they number in the 10s of millions worldwide).

    Until we are able to shut our earthly abusers down and round them up for processing, lifelong imprisonment and complete dispossession of their extorted riches, I find it a waste of time to chase after extraterrestrial mysteries. As the British say “It’s a hiding to nothing”.

  43. Penumbra  December 18, 2010 at 2:32 am

    Though I don’t advocate drug use I’ll check it out.

  44. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 1:51 am


  45. fixtheticket  December 18, 2010 at 1:51 am

    Tommy ,

  46. kate  December 18, 2010 at 1:35 am

    I’m well aware of the state of the world. ‘Disclosure’ and ‘ET is here to help’ is just more of the same bunk. Go peddle your hysterical diatribe elsewhere. Uranus looks nice this time of year.

  47. Tommy  December 18, 2010 at 12:59 am

    kate, while the world suffers death, dis-ease and destruction – “we’re” doing just fine aye. Sheesh…As “we’re” quite literally living on the edge of extinction, you must be some kind of shill agent for deception working for the dark freaks running the world I suppose.

    Sleep my little pretty ..sleep..take the blue pill lay down and go into dreamland and have a nice nap. Alice in Wonderland and the Wizard of Oz. Denial is high among the lost sheep wandering around in the dark like a drunken man searching for his missing half. Sentimentality is a superstructure covering brutality.

    Everything is just fine as the smiling happy depressives stuck in the consensus trance are walking around under the impression they are free, because they are allowed to run loose on the streets, working a j-o-b, paying rent to queen lizzy of london for a house, a car, etc, a so called life that is not your own.

    Your so called life is brought to you courtesy of Psychic dictatorship. As a culture you might as well describe your life as one enormous insignificant subliminal self service massage parlor. The whole force of our urban industrialized society is designed to get you to believe that not only is artificiality inevitable, but better.

    ET disclosure is about to take place the presence of our galactic family and when it does, your artificial world is going to change for the better and forever, beyond your wildest 3d imagination. You won’t be able to go back to your sedated comfortable indoctrinated structured mind controlled belief system pretending that you have a life, when you actually don’t.

    Your life is a mind controlled nightmare extravaganza from hell on wheels being played upon your consciousness beyond your wildest imagination to get you to think something is actually taking place, when it really isn’t, it’s called the matrix of illusion and you have been hoodwinked into be-lie-ving a lie. Now you can go back to sleep. zzzzzzz

  48. Texas Vet  December 18, 2010 at 12:28 am

    We heard that rumor about you, Ingrid. Oops, I promised I wouldn’t squeal. 🙂

  49. Texas Vet  December 18, 2010 at 12:20 am

    There is a movie out (don’t remember the name) about a Russian satellite that has nuclear tipped “rods” on it that could be launched at any target on earth.

  50. Texas Vet  December 18, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Yet, reese, Hitler was very closely associated with some segments of the India population. In fact, a Himalayan Monk living in Berlin had open access to Hitler. The Monk was Hitler’s mystical advisor. In this case, I use the term ‘mystical’ rather loosely. The Monk and about 500 close followers were slaughtered in Berlin by the advancing Russian Army.

    Could that part of the Himalayas be in what is now Pakistan? I don’t know.


  51. Tea Partier  December 18, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Hi Ingrid — In short, yes. Russia scarfed up many of them, but so did the U.S. Another bunch hid in the Middle East somewhere. As far as the U.S. is concerned, There is a Pullitzer Prize winning book called “The Plutonium Files” that exposes Nazi scientists working after the war in the U.S. radiating American children, mostly from black, indian and poor white populations.

    I have a very close friend who was radiated as a fetus in her mother’s womb in the 1950s by a Nazi scientist living in San Antonio. If you think the TSA scanners are dangerous (they are), you should see what this friend has gone through in the name of “false science”. It is disgusting.


  52. kate  December 17, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    Not so much a ‘distraction’, Pen, but widening the parameters of ‘the agenda’.

  53. kate  December 17, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    ‘ …without the help of our galactic brothers and sisters in this 2012 timeline, you can consider yourself toast. Mankind has been given far too many grave psychological problems and is far too incompetent to overcome the tyranny being perpetrated against him to do anything about anything on his own.’

    More weasel-words. No thanks Tommy, I think we’re doing just fine on our own.

  54. Tommy  December 17, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    What a bunch of sleepy heads. Mind control is a beautiful thing for the illuminati. Despite the abundance of misinformation disinformation information available, not many are able to figure anything out, let alone are they competent to be able to make up their own minds about anything.

    Always always always needing proof from Big Daddy and Company to help them do it. He tells you what you need to know, when you need to know it. The greatest cover up of all time is the fact that you are galactic humans and a part of a galactic society of benevolent ET’s and Big Daddy had no intentions of ever letting the cat out of the bag about it, so above all else, he absolutely needed to keep you brain dead stupid to your true heritage, while you pretend you have a life when you don’t. Can you say nightmare?

    You are the product of a controlled multi-traumatized species – until the human race wakes up and remembers its story of its pain and of the cataclysms and remembers what happened to our planet 11 to 12 thousand years ago as well as Mars – (The Mars and Earth cataclysm of 9500 BC.) – we will continue to be a controlled multi-traumatized species – we will not be able to go to the next level of evolution. Turn off the mind sucker TV, that horror device keeping you hypnotized.

    Get this through your heads, without the help of our galactic brothers and sisters in this 2012 timeline, you can consider yourself toast. Mankind has been given far too many grave psychological problems and is far too incompetent to overcome the tyranny being perpetrated against him to do anything about anything on his own.

    You have effectively been divided to be conquered to be able to come together for any unity to be able to do anything – about anything. Just a bunch of smart arses talking poop out of the side of your mouths using fiction a language. That is why they gave you webster dictionary to use, so you could not understand what you were actually saying out of your mouth in order to keep you thoroughly mixed up beyond belief, arguing in controversy to distract your attention upon insignificant things of no value or substance.

    The 2012 timeline is a highly orchestrated engineered and managed event taking place in the background of your shallow empty lives in order to prepare your mind for what is about to take place like never before, that is of course should you choose to use your free will to catch the superwave when it comes to a higher state of being on a new earth, 1000 times high definition.

    Do you think the illuminati gangsters are interested in you having a better life? Of course not, that is why they need to scare the holy crap out of you with the negative alien little green men agenda. You are buying it hook, line and sinker. They love to keep you mixed up, so you don’t know what to think – about anything.

  55. Ingrid B  December 17, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    in that case, I`m all for little green men..

  56. Ingrid B  December 17, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    have sometimes wondered- if Jews in Israel are walking around with transplants from other ethnicities, wouldn`t that taint their Jewishness??

  57. ray  December 17, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    or of a massive spaceship…just an illusion folks…the biggest hoax is on its way to fool the @hit out of us

  58. ray  December 17, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Researchers are looking at a concept for creating large holograms that could be projected onto a battlefield, according to the New Hampshire. This idea, which has been proposed in the past, typically theorizes that an image of God could be projected

  59. ray  December 17, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Like Gord says… trust no one…

    Not even me nor your mother, father, brother, sister…etc. Here is the scoop first they will drop UFO files…then dupe the entire planet with some new technology that makes you belief something…when in fact its just an illusion.

    please see new weapon in the works: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/05/the-face-of-all/

    Put the above togather with what Gord says…and you may have a plan on hand.

  60. Ingrid B  December 17, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    weren`t Nazi scientists shipped over to the US after WW2

  61. Ken Rechtstein  December 17, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Mike, These psychos have a direct line to Jehovah, it seems, and take orders only from deities unknown to the common of mortals.

    Anyone knows which radio wave frequency they use? I want to communicate with Jehovah too. May be they use Ariel Sharon as a medium…

  62. Ingrid B  December 17, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    read somewhere about the US/Government/Military researching the possibility of launching nuclear weapons from outer space, called them “rods from god..”

  63. Michael J Volz  December 17, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    But Ken, BiBi NuttyYuHu is actually taking orders from the space aliens isn’t he? That is what is making him such dick isn’t it?


  64. Coconut  December 17, 2010 at 7:49 pm


    Thanks for that Statement,sounds good.

  65. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    all right! Go for it, fix!

  66. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    thank you Tim. You got the picture.

    T.V. Electrical Engineer, Physicist and Mathematician.

  67. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Rachel => ” people love aliens for some odd reason.”

    T.V. => ’cause they’re such cute little buggers, Rach.

  68. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    I know one thing, Dan. The little green men’s and women’s organs don’t fit in Ratel’s lawsuit, cause they don’t integrate into our bodies well.

    🙂 T.V.

  69. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    H.G., you are so right, if you put real into the sense of being permanent. None of us, none of this around us, is permanent— in that respect, real. Everything is transitory. EXCEPT our Souls.

    Everything living has a soul. But what is the soul? It is a spark of pure, music filled, the most incredibly colored, speck of vibrational energy covered by multiple densities (layers) of minds and bodies, including our temporary physical body and worldly mind.

    The real WE, the ever-permanent Souls, are droplets of the Divine Ocean. Some would call that Divine Ocean, God, some would use the name Allah, some might say Sat Purush … humanity has made up as many names for the Divine Ocean as there have been independent tribal groups. Names are irrelevant to the One True Reality.

    Aliens in UFOs? Just another tribe of us Souls, with more advanced physical technologies.

    See, you guys got me babbling on a post-Friday lunch. I should turn this over to my friend, Yogi X. 🙂


  70. hareli  December 17, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Interesting historical documents:

    Secrets by the Thousands Harper’s Magazine, October 1946, p. 329
    Original: http://www.harpers.org/archive/1946/10/0032777
    Text: http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/4610_secret_nazi_war_technology
    Someone wrote to Wright Field recently, saying he understood this country had got together quite a collection of enemy war secrets, that many were now on public sale, and could he, please, be sent everything on German jet engines. The Air Documents Division of the Army Air Forces answered:

    “Sorry – but that would be fifty tons.”

    AIR FORCE ORDER ON ‘SAUCERS’ CITED (Ex-CIA Chief Reports on UFO Cover-up) New York Times, 1987
    Original: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50A12F9345D1A728DDDA10A94DA405B808AF1D3
    Text: http://www.wanttoknow.info/600228nytimes

    Testimony of numerous military officers on the back engineering of UFO technologies

  71. Nicole  December 17, 2010 at 4:17 pm


    I red words of you upon cancer and the importance to test basic/acid level, to eat considering these principles, what I do agree.

    In another area, which also concerns ways of well-being and self respect as well as respect of others and of life, I did appreciate a lot the work of Stanislav Grov, who is a psychiatrist.

    He worked with LSD at the very beginning it was tested, and then after quite a lot of experiences and contacts with different cultures created “holotropic breathwork”.

    He speaks of UFO in a very different way.

    He has a website at his name and .com.

    He might interest you.

  72. Skywatcher2012  December 17, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Update :

    US Crawling Internet Ahead of Upcoming Wikileaks UFO Disclosure


  73. Nicole  December 17, 2010 at 4:10 pm


    I search “Now what you say” and find nothing. Who wrote it ?

  74. fixtheticket  December 17, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    LITTLE GREEN MEN transport all of Washington & Wall Street & Isra-hell to

  75. fixtheticket  December 17, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    LITTLE GREEN MEN abduct the Entire Israeli Congress & hold them ranson for 5 dollars & no one bothers to put up the 5 dollars

  76. fixtheticket  December 17, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    alien disclosure,
    ……..”WHOOPEE”……. big deal,
    let me guess,
    1. the History spoon fed to idiot sheeple about the last 100 & 1000 or 10000 years is full of omission & fiction,( most the really interesting stuff was left out??)
    2. The Goverbutmentzen has been lying to us about everything since I don’t know when
    3. Most Wars (almost all Wars) are based on false premises,
    4. the fifty trillion or so looted from the Country has been used to develop fantastic technology ,small crumbs of which may eventually be sold back to those who paid for it at tremendous markup & expense,

    5. The “Aliens” are involved in a scheme to GENETICALLY MUTILATE all the food crops to poison us/make us ill/induce mass famine??

    6. The aliens are behind the Vaccines??

    I have a few more

  77. OS  December 17, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    One might start with small telescope that can be fitted with High Speed Digital Camera (affordable today), also interface software for portable laptop and viewing. Ensure camera has IR sensor and can be fitted with filters to make visible infrared radiation (light spectrum), thermal imaging maybe of particular interest. That’s all can say here.

  78. David  December 17, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    It is high time someone exposed government secrets about UFOs/aliens. It is the US military/intelligence community that does not want the truth about advanced aliens visiting from outer space to be revealed, since that would undermine US military and economic dominance of the world. This elaborate coverup has been going on for almost 60 years. See ufocoverup.org for more info

  79. Penumbra  December 17, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    “Starship Troopers”, just another satirical example of Idolywood box office crap or a psychologically conditioning prediction of ongoing plans for the future? 😉

  80. tim  December 17, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Well said. Esoteric Hinduism meets Quantum Physics. Radically different techniques with the exact same conclusion.

  81. rachel  December 17, 2010 at 9:17 am

    instead of asking if aliens are real maybe the question should be why would they want to come here in the first place? mathmatic prove life on other planets exist. mathmatics prove space travel can exist. but motivation is another story.

    why release UFO info? why keep secret ufo files to begin with? why have so much alien proganda on TV and movies?

    aliens are simply profitable. it sells papers, it sells movies and it sells TV shows. people love aliens for some odd reason.

    if the USA were heading some top secret space alien war not only would the people of the world embrace the war but people would be joining the military for a slim chance to go off world. If people thought aliens from another planet were going to harm us the NWO would be put in place in record speed. Star Fleet trianing academy would be up and running in 2 days.

    The US would suddenly be the world saviour once again!!!!!

    If anything the USA would want “micky-leaks” to release a bunch of documents that would do that.

    Think about it…real or not…aliens would be a godsend to these criminals. Never have to have a draft, NWO, single banking system…world domination….all in the name of security from the ultimate threat. Weaponize space has been a goal for decades.

    If ya gonna put weapons in space ya need something to shoot at after all.

  82. Dan  December 17, 2010 at 9:06 am

    More alien than little green men, would be the very real Kosovo organ harvesting ring. EU investigator Jonathan Ratel has just filed suit in Pristina alleging Serbs were captured and sorted according to age, sex, health, etc., to harvest their organs, which were then shipped to Israel and other destinations. What is the connection between Holbrooke, Lieberman, the “Snake”, Israel and the organ ring, if any?

  83. kate  December 17, 2010 at 8:18 am


  84. AdeUK  December 17, 2010 at 6:08 am

    Obituary for the late Professor Eric Laithwaite – 12/31/97

    LETTER FROM HAROLD ASPDEN: Regarding Antigravity and Prof. Eric Laithwaite


    Gravity Demo BBC

    Aliens unlikely but possible.
    Greedy selfish powermongers with secret technology highly probable.

  85. AS  December 17, 2010 at 5:38 am

    because israelis are shifting power from washington to jerusalem… if you can’t see it you will never understand why there is a link with israel’s wars, wikileaks, ufos agenda (armagedon etc… militarisation of space is entire part of the final battle of zio foolish)… and israel planification role of the new world order called by american puppets presidents and congressman from truman to obama…

  86. H.G. Johnsson  December 17, 2010 at 5:28 am

    Human technology is more advanced than most people think. UFO’s are not real, angels are not real but we are also not real. Imagine this is a holodeck on a giant scale created 6,000 ago by Someone we call God.

  87. OS  December 17, 2010 at 5:18 am


    Read my links below, reply to Pen. Relates to invisible light spectrum, or infrared radiation.

  88. OS  December 17, 2010 at 4:42 am

    For years have worked on development of High Speed Camera Technology and Filtering, some IR Laser Technology, for development of vision systems.

    Below are several links, maybe later will add more.


    Some basic concepts to start.

  89. Penumbra  December 17, 2010 at 4:19 am

    And where pray tell is “Hellion”?

    Maybe they’re from Kolab, wouldn’t that just make the Mormon loonies happy. 😉

  90. Penumbra  December 17, 2010 at 4:17 am

    Well I’m up late most nights and often go outside and look into the sky to take note of the constellations, no flying saucers over my place yet, and certainly none landing to interact (thus proving their pilots to be other than human). When that happens I’ll let you know.

    Till then, even if I see strange craft whizzing by, I have no way of verifying that it isn’t just undeclared human military technology out for a test run (or more insidious purposes)

  91. Penumbra  December 17, 2010 at 3:41 am

    where can an average Joe get his hands on such technology, OS?

    I’d love to see into an unseen realm.

  92. Army Vet  December 17, 2010 at 3:09 am

    From one vet to another – question for you.

    What the heck does Israel have to do with Wikileaks, Julian Assange, or UFOs?

    You lost a ton of credibility with your wild theories when you said Israel is responsible for .. God knows what (I couldn’t even follow your point). Please don’t delete this comment like you deleted the last one I posted a few hours ago – that’s being a chicken.

  93. Genie  December 17, 2010 at 2:46 am

    interesting, OS!

  94. Penumbra  December 17, 2010 at 2:45 am

    Yes kate, I happened to catch a word of that off the tele while I was making dinner tonight, after having previously read this article. My first thought was, well there is the initial seeding of the predicted “soon to be” wiki drip to get every frantic about UFO invasions. lol.

    Sorry, with all due respect to T.V.’s scientific enquiries and with due acknowledgment that Roswell contained unknown metallic substances (I’ve heard the reports), I still find this a huge distraction from the most imminent threats right here on earth from our sociopathic human megalomaniac politicos, banksters and industrialists.

    T.V. > I am, however, intrigued to hear more of your claimed visit off planet. Have you been up in one of the shuttles by chance?

  95. Genie  December 17, 2010 at 2:43 am

    since I don’t buy into the alien hoodoo voodoo wikileaks won’t feel me there either.

  96. Charles G.  December 17, 2010 at 2:00 am

    I agree with OS. I was blessed to spend time at Wright-Patterson.

    Charlie from California

  97. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Coconut, the Vedas (as does the Bible, the Adi Granth, the Koran, the Tao, etc.) deal with much of the lower Astral worlds, which are at higher vibrational frequencies that this visible Creation of ours.

    All Great Mystics (which blinded worldly religions misinterpret) travel to these regions in their meditative states and return to worldly consciousness and attempt to describe their contemplative, repetitive visions to we lowly humans.
    Priests, Mullahs, Rabbis, etc., etc., take the Mystics’ words and turn them into repetitious, blind protocols called religions. Hence, the ‘blind leading the blind.’

    Can these apparati the Great Mystics use parables, etc. to describe, travel from higher vibrations to our lower lower Universe vibrations using frequency shifting techniques (similar to a radio dial, only much finer), worm-holes in space, etc.?
    I’ve spent most of my life studying these phenomena using the Scientific Method of investigation and discovery.

    Finally, can these apparatuses (UFOs) be created in our worldly Universe level of the creation using common, familiar to us materials? Maybe. The materials like those found at Roswell contained components that are not on our Periodic Table, yet. The riddles are so complex many of us older researchers have turned over the car keys to the next generations with newer tools.

    That doesn’t mean we’ve quit. A number of us have taken to the finding the same paths taken by the Great Mystics — again, the Scientific Method, but with the greatest instrument in this lower creation, the conglomeration called the human body, mind and soul.

    Sorry, you sort of asked, or implied you wanted to know.


  98. foo  December 17, 2010 at 1:44 am

    The questions that I’m about to post are not rhetorical; I hope that someone(s) will respond to them.

    It’s been 65 years since the end of WWII. If the Germans really did have anti-gravity technology, then why don’t we have operational anti-gravity flying machines?

    Why are we still stuck with jet and rocket technology?

    The Saturn V was the most powerful rocket ever built, and transit time to the moon was over three days. Anti-gravity craft should be able to make the trip in a few hours.

    Check out the plans for manned missions to Mars. Rockets, again, with six months from Earth to Mars. Anti-gravity technology should reduce the time to a few weeks.

    Rockets accelerate a craft to escape velocity, and then the craft coasts the rest of the way. Anti-gravity technology flight would be powered for the duration of the flight.

    If extra-terrestrial craft are real, and if we have them, and if we are reverse-engineering them, then where are the products of that research and development?

  99. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 1:34 am

    Soap Box => “Not a wheel, nor hub cap, rear view mirror..nothing.
    After supposedly buzzing this little globe for 100′s years?”

    T.V. => You just haven’t been to the right places Soap. Happy dreams to you.

  100. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Thank you, MK. You are right on.

  101. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 1:29 am

    But, Pen, all that aside. The little devils (UFOs) do exist. Why aren’t they seen more often? Because most people walk around with their noses to the ground (not that that’s a bad idea). Today, people very seldom are in environments where they can ‘watch the sky’ for any period of time.

    What originally caught my attention as a kid is I lived in the country. Real serious country. There was little to none, blinding, distracting electric lights. The only thing we checked the ground for was rattlesnakes.

    Suffice to say, there were (and are) strange things in both night and day skies. Those strange things led me to advanced technical degrees and years of fascinating, REAL taxpayer-paid research on land, in the sea and out in space.

    Have fun dreaming tonight, everybody! 🙂


  102. Texas Vet  December 17, 2010 at 1:15 am

    For what it is worth, reese, so-called ‘flying saucers’ are NOT ‘leisures of the minds’. They are real. And as I say below, it is mostly irrelevant.

    As for your “do not want to solve the problems at hand”, you’re right on. We have plenty of everyday problems that need to be solved. That’s the nature of this lower creation that we’re stuck in for a fixed amount of breaths for each of us.

    Best wishes, T.V.

  103. OS  December 17, 2010 at 12:50 am

    The Information of Propaganda,

    Flight advancement and the pursuit of technologies for stealth, invisibility, propulsion, and speed, is ongoing area of research and development. Some Nazi research encompassed antigravity technology, and near the end of war extreme measures were taken to protect this discovery. Some of this research continued in the US after the war, through secret projects to evaluate feasibility and future applications. Some suggest experiments were performed at Wright Patterson Air Force Base for the “Jet powered hover craft”, while others suggest antigravity research was being evaluated, of other type.

    There’s various types of UFO information, the most common is propaganda and used to redirect the public’s attention to something other, along with erroneous locations. Area (51) is another distraction as is “Wikileaks.

    However, some distributed propaganda contains hidden information to collectively pursue and retrieve information. Some Scientist and Engineers use various media resources to pursue pieces of information through credible professionals with direct and indirect experience, “hidden language within another”. Today many secret projects are performed without government knowledge or control, and independently funded and operated as well. Technology can be a dangerous profession, invent something extraordinary and discover.

    Presently knowledge is being pursued for miniaturized reactors capable of sustaining vehicle flight for longer durations then conventional. Often Scientist and Engineers piece together information that’s scattered around the globe, from many credible sources. This above concept eliminates mechanical complexity, through theoretical advancement and simplicity. Simplicity is the “key” to something extraordinary.

    It’s not what you can physically see or hear, it’s what you can’t, and there’s technology and methods to overcome these limitations.

  104. Paul  December 17, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Dito on that, Penumbra and Soap Box.
    Thanks for the sense and sensibility.
    What we need mostly right now.

  105. Paul  December 17, 2010 at 12:31 am

    heheheheh “Go Buzz Go”

  106. NightFlyer  December 16, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Interesting facts: First Air force sect. Stuart Symington check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Symington – as I see many references to what is taking place today. And if this UFO stuff becomes headlines perhaps starting at the beginning would be prudent. Nite.

  107. NightFlyer  December 16, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Background info: The USAF was formed as a separate branch of the military on September 18, 1947 under the National Security Act of 1947.

  108. NightFlyer  December 16, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    G, You pegged it right here; “UFO secrets have been the Holy Grail of the intelligence community since 1947”. Same time Truman and Churchill et el “felt sorry” for the poor Jewish people and okayed them getting the land for Israel. Distraction # 1.

  109. fixtheticket  December 16, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    this part is funny…..”The Dimona nuclear facility is said to produce nuclear weapons”
    not …..”The Dimona nuclear facility is used to produce nuclear weapons”

  110. Ken Rechtstein  December 16, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    The Zios have once again got what they wanted in Congress through the HOWARD BERMAN resolution, adopted yesterday unanimously by CONGRESS: “NO PALESTINIAN STATE!!!”.

    Wikileaks might have been the staged blackmail, a show of force by the Zion Talmudic Mafia.

    Netanyahu does not even need to tell Obama what to do-how to behave, he INSTRUCTS directly Congress-Senate through AIPAC.

  111. kate  December 16, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    ‘Israel shoots down ‘balloon’ near nuclear site’

  112. Friendly swede  December 16, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Interesting, thank you.

  113. kate  December 16, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    hardly news.

    earlier wikileaks –

    Pindar, Pythian Ode 2. 32 ff (trans. Conway) (Greek lyric C5th B.C.) :
    “In the profound and secret depths of her own bridal chamber, he [Ixion] assailed the wife of Zeus. Well is it for a man to take the measure of each deed by his own stature. Unto the full deep tides of woe loves which transgress the law casts a man down, who sets foot there. For with a Cloud (Nephele) he lay, pursuing sweet falsehood, that man of folly. In semblance like the all-high Sovereign daughter of Kronos son of Ouranos, this phantom came, this guile, proffered him by the hands of Zeus, a beauteous bane. Thus on the four-spoked wheel he gave his limbs to bondage, his own destruction. From whence is no escape, he heard the message that he must spread to all the world.
    Far were the Kharites when the mother [Nephele] bore–ne’er such a mother, never such a son–her babe of monstrous breed, who had no honour amongst men nor in the laws of Heaven. She reared him up and named him Kentauros, and the Magnesian mares knew his as mate by Pelion’s ridges; and that strange race was born, like to both parents, their mother’s form below, above their sire’s.”


  114. reamonnk  December 16, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    No doubt, the gov’t has anti-gravity technology. I wouldn’t be shocked if they did indeed also have a secret space program. I also wouldn’t be stunned if it comes out that this technology was invented/rediscovered by “Nazi” scientists…some escaped earth in their UFO’s and some went over to the USA and shared this technology with Americans…it would make sense that this technology and perhaps rogue “masters of the Universe” have been menacing the ZOG from bases in Antarctica and the moon. Maybe the UFO wars reported are the Zog vs the rogue exiled Nazi/Aryans. It still is a potentially poisonous conspiracy theory at this point…and it is only being exposed because the Jews appear to be punishing the American military for it’s insolence regarding Iran. I am not drinking this kool-aid yet. I want to see interstellar Nazi star-fighters swarming the skies before I believe in this wacky conspiracy theory.

    Project Blue Beam – real time holograms

  115. John  December 16, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about juvenile Twitter.. Reminds me of the juvenile CB craze in the mid ’70’s.

    Nothing new under the Sun.

  116. Coconut  December 16, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    creation of myths

    Vimanas of Ancient India

    In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called vimanas. These fall into two cate- gories: (l) manmade craft that resemble airplanes and fly with the aid of birdlike wings, and (2) unstreamlined structures that fly in a mysterious manner and are generally not made by human beings. The machines in category (l) are described mainly in medieval, secular Sanskrit works dealing with architecture, automata, military siege engines, and other mechanical contrivances. Those in category (2) are described in ancient works such as the Rg Veda, the Maha-bha-rata, the Rama-yana, and the Pura-nas, and they have many features reminis- cent of UFOs.


  117. Ron Paul 2012  December 16, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Aliens will be used as an excuse to further weaponize space.

  118. MK  December 16, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Dear Penumbra,

    Do you know who else said, “I will believe it when I see it..?” People who did not invest in Edison’s inventions. People who did not believe that germs caused infections.

    You might want to reconsider your stance. You will find pictures of the NAZI saucers reverse-engineered from VIMANAs dug up in Pakistan. To learn about VIMANAs, google Hindu religious texts and Vimanas.



    the Nazis did have UFOs
    During WWII…..

    Germans developing advanced technologies during the end of the war is a matter of public record.

    As Sir Roy Feddon, Chief of the Technical Mission to Germany for the Ministry of Aircraft Production stated in 1945:

    I have seen enough of their designs and production plans to realize that if they (the Germans) had managed to prolong the war some months longer, we would have been confronted with a set of entirely new and deadly developments in air warfare.

    Captain Ruppelt, Chief of the US Air Force Project Bluebook added in 1956,

    When WWII ended, the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missiles under development. The majority were in the most preliminary stages, but they were the only known craft that could even approach the performance of objects reported to UFO observers…

    Some of these German war-time technical advances were well known. The first military jet was the German Heinkel 178 that flew in 1939. In 1943 the Germans also deployed the only jet fighter to go into regular service during the war, the Messerschmitt 262. This jet could easily overtake the fastest Allied aircraft, yet fortunately Hitler ordered that these planes should be fitted as bombers rather than defensive fighters which saved Allied aircraft from devastating casualties.

  119. Texas Vet  December 16, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Article => “During the war, Hitler had been in contact with aliens. Some sort of agreement or arrangement was made. A base was built in Antarctica. Germany had build a “complimentary” facility in Chile which existed until well after the war. The “Nazi/Space Alien” base in Antarctica was also controlled by the Nazis and, at some point, by Nazis and Americans, well after the end of the war.”

    T.V. Why do you think the U.S. Military, led by Ike, went South East in Germany, into the foothills of the Alps instead of attacking Berlin where Hitler was suspected of hiding? The prize wasn’t Hitler. The prize was rumored and believed to be in an Alpine cave complex. The prize was more than nuclear. It included UFO technologies, including an early-stage anti-gravity craft that could hover.

    Now, I ask. What use would there be to spread that across some crackpot outfit like Wikileaks? Nothing more than distracting fear-mongering.

    Now, if a New World Order of elitists could develop and control the technology, I would guess they could have a self-aggrandizing advantage over the rest of us people. At least for a little while, until they too croak.

  120. MK  December 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Search for Dr. Peter Beter. He was a member of Kennedy’s cabinet. He also said that there were off-world installations.

    I have also found the photos and technical drawings for the HANNEBU I and II. Those are the NAZI saucers based upon the VIMANA or flying saucers unearthed by Hitler’s men in Pakistan in the ’30s (I think it was the ’30s


  121. Texas Vet  December 16, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Penumbra: “My gut sense on this is that such a “revelation” would be the mother of all distractions.”

    T.V. => It would, Pen. A Perfect Storm distraction. Maybe released by the lame goose Congress to distract the world and pass all their Omnibus Bill, etc, BS before they’re permanently fired.

  122. Texas Vet  December 16, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Article => “What can we expect, what is in the UFO files of the United States Air Force?”

    T.V. => I probably know as much, if not more, about UFO data than 99.9% of the people on Earth.

    One Marine pilot, also with a high Security Clearance, my asked me, “T.V., what do you think about all this UFO stuff?”

    “I don’t,” I answered.

    “But how can you not worry?” he worriedly asked me.

    “It’s simple,” I replied. “I know from my experiences and work with these so-called ‘Alien’ technologies that there is nothing we can do about it anyway. So, why waste time worrying. Be philosophical about it. Learn what we can and get on down the road. If ‘they’ had wanted to eliminate us from existence, that would have happened a long time ago, and there was nothing we could do about it. So why worry? Why not just enjoy the experiences if you have any.”


  123. AS  December 16, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    to place israel on the top of the pyramid… sorry

  124. AS  December 16, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    yep Lila… the agenda is to prepare the armagedon through the ezekiel prophecies and place israel above the rest of the world…

  125. Soap Box  December 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Nicely stated LR!

  126. Lila Rajiva  December 16, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    This “alien propaganda” is intended, I sometimes thinks, to end in some kind of holographic projection with religious significance that will “shock and awe” true believers of all stripes …whether in Christ, anti-Christ, Mehdi, ET, or anything else…

    Most days, I think it’s just another distraction for the masses.
    I side with Penumbra. Let’s stick to flesh-and-blood villains for now..

  127. Soap Box  December 16, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Penumbra –
    I side with you.
    Not a wheel, nor hub cap, rear view mirror..nothing.
    After supposedly buzzing this little globe for 100’s years?
    Nothing. But we keep on hoping, believing that ‘they’ are out there, hiding from us but strangely exposing themselves to various gvnms, playing into our puny little ‘political games’! Bah-humbug!
    Yes, earth based technology much more advanced than we know – I’ll accept that.
    Our tax dollars well spent, as usual.
    Maybe Weakly Dribbles can prove different?
    A bottle of my finest scotch is on the table.

    Nicely stated GD!

  128. Penumbra  December 16, 2010 at 5:32 pm


    My gut sense on this is that such a “revelation” would be the mother of all distractions, turning a large chunk of the public off (more than they already are) with prolific ridicule at such outlandish notions. Others, perhaps numerous as well, would be drawn like moths to the flame of “vindicated” beliefs only to be burned.

    I for one see more than enough viable, rational conspiracies emanating from entirely human circles of power, wealth and organizational secrecy to be dealt with without delving into suppositions of extra-terrestrial “threats”. Remember, a principal tenet of effective public perception management is to establish and characterize an external threat of “the other” against which to consolidate public focus and fear, “little green men” are the ultimate boogymen, especially today in the technologically-minded, sci-fi conditioned mindset of world populations.

    Once again I see the artful tactic of the stage magician waving his right hand in the air whilst recounting some riveting tale to distract even the most astute and attentive amongst the audience from the actions he is performing with his left hand.

    I’ll believe in flying saucers and ET’s when one lands in my back yard, greets me in person and provides me detailed evidence of his origins and a DNA sample. Until then, lets focus on flesh and blood criminals seeking to do us harm, more than enough of those to be dealt with first.

  129. Buzz  December 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Aliens rock ! Destroy all humans

  130. Zana  December 16, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    I dont consider it a warning, more like a relief.. with smiles 🙂

  131. Friendly swede  December 16, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Gary says he doesn’t know.

    “What was the most exciting thing you saw?” I ask.

    “I found a list of officers’ names,” he claims, “under the heading ‘Non-Terrestrial Officers’.”

    “Non-Terrestrial Officers?” I say.

    “Yeah, I looked it up,” says Gary, “and it’s nowhere. It doesn’t mean little green men. What I think it means is not earth-based. I found a list of ‘fleet-to-fleet transfers’, and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren’t US navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet.”

    “The Americans have a secret spaceship?” I ask.

    “That’s what this trickle of evidence has led me to believe.”

    s: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2005/jul/09/weekend7.weekend2

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