VETERANS TODAY BANS WIKIPEDIA REFERENCES FROM SITE

WIKIPEDIA MUST BE BLOCKED FROM THE UNITED STATES FOR “INTELLECTUAL TERRORISM”

“WIKIPEDIA THE REAL THREAT, NOT WIKILEAKS”

Editorial Staff VETERANS TODAY

The government of Israel, part of a well organized and funded intelligence operation, has designated millions of dollars to undermine the integrity of Wikileaks and to systematically attack, through hacking, spam, server overloads and “pressure” on journalists, all internet content that isn’t biased in favor of Israel.

Evidence is now clear.  Wikipedia, the vast online encyclopedia used as a reference source by amateur and professional scholars, journalists and researchers of all kinds is now proven to be subject to a massive assault by the government of Israel.  Hundreds of Wikipedia editors are being recruited and trained each week, tasked by the Israeli government with instilling open “Zionist” bias in even the most innocent areas, not just news, but personal biographies and, especially history.

The greatest danger is to children, who have grown up using Wikipedia as a wonderful resource.  Now our children need protection from propaganda, bias and lies from a source that has, for so many years, enriched their lives.


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This systematic assault on free speech and destruction of a world wide resource of unmeasured value is, perhaps, one of the most serious acts of intellectual terrorism imaginable.

Veterans Today strongly urges all responsible web editors to enforce similar policies and warn their readers and staff.  We further warn all site moderators of suspicious comments that parrot common pro-Israel talking points.  We have tracked common IP addresses to dozens of non-existent readers of late.  We have also noted that proxy servers, Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, are being used to “launder” these internet terror attacks.

Veterans Today, with great sadness and reluctance, is now forced to ban all Wikipedia content from the site, under the assumption that such content is adversarial to the security of the United States and its military forces.



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107 Responses to "VETERANS TODAY BANS WIKIPEDIA REFERENCES FROM SITE"

  1. J. McCormick  January 22, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Wikipedia editors are routinely biased and play dirty tricks to get rid of pages that don’t cater to their biases. Facebook is much the same way. It is the continuing take-over of western media. The zionists have always been zionists – read Tacitus, Roman historian and philosopher. They’ve been at this a long while and have gotten very, very good at it. A well-informed citizenry can fight back; its harder to fight back in the dark, but of course one can develop see-in-the-dark ability.

  2. allovertheplace  January 6, 2011 at 1:14 am

    I agree wholeheartedly, albeit they knew their plot wouldn’t get past you or me, only those damn dumb Americans (who I wish would wake the hell up! And quick.)

  3. spktruth  January 5, 2011 at 11:38 am

    WikiPEDIA is a zionist site, we know that. So why use them.

  4. spktruth  January 5, 2011 at 11:36 am

    This is censorship. I agree with everything I have seen posted on this site. I do not agree with censorship of any kind. Some of us do not believe Assange is Mossad, nor some kind of cult figure. The real Whistleblowers like Ellsberg, McGovern, Glenn Greenwald and others absolutely support Wiki leaks and look forward to even more “outings”. None of us know, unless we are speculators whether Gordon Duffs take on Assange is true or not. We can all speculate but facts are more important. If they can use the Espionage Act of 1917 (which was unconstitional even then and still is) against an non american citizen, against someone who didnt leak anything on american soil, then none of us are safe. Rethink this thing or you will lose some of your supporters. The teabaggers are a bigger threat to our democracy than Assange. Assange is but one person involved in Wiki, with trumped up ridiculous sex charges, wherein he has never been charge with anything, even today. They did the same thing against Ellsberg and Scott Ritter. In the case of Ritter when he was speaking out about “no wmd in Iraq’, they put out allegations of pedophilia against him an oila he was taken off air…dont shoot the messenger, lets see what else the messenger has.

  5. Dr.Nur  January 5, 2011 at 9:39 am

    You are brain damaged or a zionist shill “Shirin” Muslims have never attacked America and unprovoked attacks against non-muslims or muslims and innocents will be punished by God. Those who do it 9/11,car bombings in Irak and Pakistan etc. have been proven to be the Mossad together with its CIA/MI6 “lube-boys” cocaine-heroin subcontractors..

  6. movin15  January 5, 2011 at 4:12 am

    Yes there are a few:
    1. ziopedia
    2. jewwatch
    3. moving intellect
    4. power of truth radio
    5. last but of course not least veterans today

    and the list can go on… and on

  7. Tiffany  January 4, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Great job at insisting upon the truth ! As a veteran myself, I could not be happier for this decision. Thank you.

  8. kraqus  January 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Please do not mislead my comments…..Thank you.

    I regards to your Mosque comments I have a take of my own.
    It is by design and it has ulterior motives. (Usual suspects)
    It is meant to keep the wound open….this way they can add salt whenever needed……get it?

  9. Lila Rajiva  January 4, 2011 at 9:46 am

    @Shirin

    Why don’t you point to the specific sentence that you say is racist, when you call someone a racist? Then the writer can clarify and we can all learn something.

    Maybe, it is you who are seeing racism where there is only anger, bitterness, outrage at double standards, injustice and oppression.

    Or maybe, the real truth is it is the trolls who are the real RACISTS AND SUPREMACISTS HIDING UNDER NONEXISTENT VICTIMHOOD TO ATTACK THE REAL VICTIMS AND THEIR DEFENDERS!

    No one on this site is murdering or legally oppressing anyone…or advocating it. Ergo, they are not racists.

    But the trolls are the same folks advocating the depopulation or murder of whole regions and inciting hatred of the inhabitants’ religion (Islam)….and of their race (Arab).

    Also, please don’t put words in anyone’s mouth. Calling blog trolls “vermin” is not racist.. it’s just mean language.

    Blog owners do not like trolls, which ever race or faith they profess..or don’t profess.

    Want to get your voice heard? Don’t make irrelevant personal attacks, don’t use innuendo, smears, and illogical random associations. Do some research about the writer and read what else they have written. Read up on the subject. Show some self control. Show some courtesy. Show us you weren’t raised by wolves.

    Use reason, logic, persuasion, research. Put some effort into what you’re saying. And some sincerity. Maybe one hundredth the effort that the writers put into their pieces.

    Then maybe someone will take you seriously and post your comments.

    And stop this ridiculous, peevish, childish cry of censorship because people don’t cheer you on when you rave, verbally assault people, and puke in their cyberhomes but instead show you the door.

    That’s not censorship, my friend. That’s self-defense.

    Or go get your own blog.

  10. Bobo  January 4, 2011 at 5:16 am

    Wikipedia is somewhat trustworthy with basic stuff, like population data or “history of french cuisine”. Anything with politics (middle east, global warming) is mostly biased. It’s not a good reference anyway as you can&should rather dig up the original source.

  11. Shirin  January 4, 2011 at 5:00 am

    Yes, we have been trying to tell Americans to wake up and see how Islam is creeping up on them. The good people of America are being fooled by crafty Imams like the one who wants to build a mosque at the site of WTC in NYC and travels all over the Middle East on American taxpayer’s money to “improve the relationship between America and such Arab countries as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Dubai… As if America didn’t already have a friendly relationship with these countries.

    He looks the American people in the eye and says if he builds the mosque at WTC the terrorists will not attack because he will be there!!?? What grand-standing, what crap, what audacity? Does that mean the terrorists take orders from him?

    Yes, wake up Giant, wake up and see the real enemy.

  12. Bill Painter  January 4, 2011 at 4:17 am

    True Free Speech comes with legs. We can turn away and leave it, or stay and listen. I would not want to be a captive audience to anything.

  13. Bill Painter  January 4, 2011 at 3:55 am

    moonkoon – Thanks for the link ~ Bill

  14. Bill Painter  January 4, 2011 at 3:51 am

    Thanks Jim, looks like a good read ~ Bill

  15. hareli  January 4, 2011 at 2:48 am

    See? I was wrong again. It’s Brzezinski.

  16. hareli  January 4, 2011 at 2:47 am

    Great decision, Mr. Duff.

    The idiots in control of Wikipedia are so inept they can’t even get birth dates right. Birth dates of royalty, no less. I mean that’s a no-brainer.

    I use Wikipedia to check the spelling of Brezezinski, which I always forget. 😉

  17. Jim  January 4, 2011 at 2:08 am

    GD: read George Soros’s white paper on “A2K” or “Aaccess to
    Knowledge he submitted via his heafty lawyers for a international “Open Door” protocol to all information. Hes going after the copywrite, reserved, & trademarks laws. starting here in the USA.

  18. Patrick Sullivan  January 4, 2011 at 1:39 am

    When posting an article, I use wiki for its pictures oftentimes.

    Also what is useful is the location of where the story is that is being posted, and you can copy that map at wiki that will allow the readers to understand the location of where the story is at in relation to major well known locations..

    Also, The pics at wiki generally can be posted and appear. Many other sites put a blocker in their pictures, and they don’t show up.

    As an idea for those who put pictures up, how about slip a link in the pic that can ‘click here’ to connect to a site of their choosing, so that it will pay for them to put up pictures that we can share as we put together articles.

    May be Put an enlarge pic button, and let viewers click to the picture posters preferred site, with the reward of an enlarged picture and any ads the picture poster has there..

    Or as some do, put a small ad right in the picture itself.

    Their math is quite useful, have not noticed anything of a political nature there. While reading some geometry the other day, and viewing a visual representation of a hysteresis loop, it became apparent how Lester Hendershot built an over unity free energy motor in 1928. He said then that the energy for his motor was coming from the rotation of the earth. Our planet rotates at 1,000 miles per hour. 24 hours to complete a full rotation of 24,000 miles, the circumference of our earth. Thats slow speed in comparison to our 66,000 miles per hour orbital speed around the sun.

    Here’s a link for those who may be interested in Lester’s remarkable work:

    http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm

    As a suggestion to their other things, just begin reading anything that could have a political or cultural slant to it this way: Once upon a time…..

  19. Bill Painter  January 4, 2011 at 1:26 am

    Yes, of course government employees have an influence in Wikipedia including many other internet entities. Understanding our history and getting the truth requires reviewing our leader’s words and actions more carefully. They will not say directly, for example, 9-11 was a pre-planned hypnoscripted event (the 9-11 plane drivers had hidden hypnotic handlers). Nor will they cower and hide. A look back at our leader’s speeches and legislative actions tells us they planned 9-11 and many more events in American history, and our leaders know it. But, they do not want their children and congregation to know it; at the least they want plausible deniability. They speak to other world leaders and historians using their words and legislation actions and admit subtly their intentions for a more informed and educated audience. We must be more sophisticated in these times. They cannot tell us openly or directly many things because they are sometimes very cruel. They must sell themselves as well valued Christians. See my blog about 9-11. And, for another example, I recommend a careful study of the serial killing event that took place along the SEA TAC Strip in Washington State in the 1980’s. Those handlers of the serial killer left many clues for historians who knew what to look for. Look at the event participants names. You’ll find Clinton, U.S. Generals, and others. Handler’s leave details for us while retaining plausible deniability. Event after event in this country gets hypnoscripted and event details ‘bread crumbs’ are left for historians and citizens to understand the event was not natural. The over empowerment of the government employee is worse than you think. You must understand a warring century has caused the U.S. to resemble a mind police state, a hypnocracy. Hypnotic concepts and terms like hypnoscripting, amnesia, post hypnotic suggestion, handler, and many more explain the inexplicable in our country today. Wikipedia is still a good site for information. Never expect to find naked Uncle Sam anywhere.

  20. moonkoon  January 4, 2011 at 12:56 am

    The assault on Wikipedia’s reliability has been going on for some time. It appears to be at least partly a CAMERA initiative.

    EI exclusive: a pro-Israel group’s plan to rewrite history on Wikipedia
    Report, The Electronic Intifada, 21 April 2008

    A pro-Israel pressure group is orchestrating a secret, long-term campaign to infiltrate the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia to rewrite Palestinian history, pass off crude propaganda as fact, and take over Wikipedia administrative structures to ensure these changes go either undetected or unchallenged.

    A series of emails by members and associates of the pro-Israel group CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), provided to The Electronic Intifada (EI), indicate the group is engaged in what one activist termed a “war” on Wikipedia.

    A 13 March action alert signed by Gilead Ini, a “Senior Research Analyst” at CAMERA, calls for “volunteers who can work as ‘editors’ to ensure” that Israel-related articles on Wikipedia are “free of bias and error, and include necessary facts and context.” However, subsequent communications indicate that the group not only wanted to keep the effort secret from the media, the public, and Wikipedia administrators, but that the material they intended to introduce included discredited claims that could smear Palestinians and Muslims and conceal Israel’s true history. …
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9474.shtml

    I still use Wikipedia but one has to be careful with the information provided on “controversial” 🙂 subjects. On a related matter, a while ago I heard a spokesman for Wikipedia insist that Wikipedia has nothing to do with Wikileaks. Wikileaks just hijacked the term to bolster their own increasingly tattered credibility and it’s not actually a Wiki, i.e. a publicly editable database (all the Wikileaks editing is done before the data is published 🙂 ).
    In my experience disinformation comes in all shapes and sizes, Wikipedia being perhaps one of the more obvious examples of the vehicles used by the liars to spread their lies.

  21. OS  January 4, 2011 at 12:36 am

    He changes his user name.

  22. Ron Paul 2012  January 4, 2011 at 12:28 am

    Ken:

    I read your wikipedia entry.
    What is your problem with it?

  23. Bill Painter  January 4, 2011 at 12:26 am

    Yes Sir, I see your point. I believe companies, individuals, and non-profits all have to tow a line that comes directly from the top. If you are considered a problem, you lose your voice and are subverted. I think that is true in most countries. In the U.S. our security infrastructure was developed (grown over many decades) to fight the Kaiser’s boys, the Nazi’s, and the Communist’s and today it has been hi-jacked by our superstitious leaders to insure they get to heaven. They think they need Ancient Israel actualized before they can go to heaven (most Christians would never do what they do). That security infrastructure is so powerful no entity in the U.S. can secure itself from it, including Wikipedia.

  24. Ron Paul 2012  January 4, 2011 at 12:23 am

    I thought he was gone?

  25. Ron Paul 2012  January 4, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Gordon:

    It would be nice to see examples of this fraud but you auto-banned it.
    Just give me some quick examples.

  26. Guano Ediondo  January 4, 2011 at 12:20 am

    Very interesting. I just found another piece that was edited;

    yesterday: “The guillotine is a device used for carrying out executions by decapitation. It consists of a tall upright frame from which a blade is suspended. This blade is raised with a rope and then allowed to drop, severing the head from the body. The device is noted for long being the main method of execution in France and, more particularly, for its use during the French Revolution, when it “became a part of popular culture, celebrated as the people’s avenger by supporters of the Revolution”.

    today: “The guillotine is a device used for carrying out executions by decapitation. It consists of a tall upright frame from which a blade is suspended. This blade is raised with a rope and then allowed to drop, severing the head from the body. The device will be noted for long being the main method of execution in the U.S and, more particularly, for its use during the next Revolution, and it will be celebrated as the people’s avenger by supporters of the next Revolution”.

    Off with their heads!!!

  27. Andre in L.A.  January 3, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    I have an ongoing project,tracking the editing of “Jewish Bolshevism” on Wiki.

    on 9-15-10: “Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, Judeo-Communism, and known as Żydokomuna in Poland, is a pejorative stereotype…”

    0n 11-16-10: “Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, Judeo-Communism, and known as Żydokomuna in Poland, is an antisemitic stereotype…”

    Rather predictable.

  28. Guano Ediondo  January 3, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    So now the objective is to calibrate and adjust historical events. Maybe we should follow their example and rewrite our own history. Let’s begin by uncovering the truth about the 9/11 and Pentagon attacks…

  29. Tea Partier  January 3, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Jewish slaves also dug the ditch called the Colorado River. Wiki-muck said so.

    Oh, I’m sorry. The river was dug by Palestinian slaves who worked for one of the older Rothchild banks. That’s why the river is so friggin’ crooked. The Jewish slaves did the high-tech work of building the dam.

  30. Texas Vet  January 3, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Bill, Wikipedia has been compromised for years in areas of social influence. I just looked up to verify something on the H-46 Sea Knight Marine helicopter and Wikimedia was pretty much on track with reality. It was a good and effective bird that met most of its design criteria.

    Now, if some agenda driven group elected to make a social issue over U.S. Marines using the Sea Knight to chase poor little N. Vietnamese Communists who invaded S. Vietnam to turn it into a Communist dictatorship — and therefore called the H-46 an evil invention…

    … well, that’s called hacking and modifying Wiki-mumble for ill-conceived gain. Of course, if you were pro-communist, you would claim it is justified. You wouldn’t even consider that if the N. Vietnamese had just stayed in their own failure called N. Vietnam (a social failure like N. Korea), the war in Nam would never have happened. The South Vietnamese, like South Korea would be free and strong. There would be no Agent Orange.

    At this point, there are social re-engineering groups (Israel? among others) who are trying to modify history by hacking and changing the Wiki-crap. You’d be amazed at what the kids in school are being taught to believe today. Even many of their teachers are over-wiki-wraught.

    Now, these people in the YouTube video are disgusting, even though I’m sure they believe their own shit.

    Cheers and Happy New Year.

    T.V.

  31. RG  January 3, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I have never trusted wikipedia anyway and now I know for certain that it will be full of zionist lies and disinformation. I am all in favor of alternate views being represented, that is necessary in a debate but not when it comes to documenting facts, historical or contemporary, facts are facts….cowards hide behind lies.

  32. Richard Edmondson  January 3, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    (please forgive my onetime violation of the new policy. It won’t happen again.)

  33. Kat  January 3, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Well said. The only experience I had was a modification of the JAG who disclosed the list of Guantanamo internees who was up against a court martial. There was a very negative article, not balanced. Over a period of three years I repeatedly every 3 months reviewed and edited. My edits were changed. I especially deplored the family background stating his father was a serial killer. Over the next 6 years this military officer received many awards for his actions. Someone wanted blood and humiliation. while I believe we will have prisoners of war, as an attorney of 30 years and firmly aligned with our constitution. It is obvious that terrible influences since before 1999 but accelerating in the years since as seen the decimation of the rule of law in the United States. The attorney was doing the right thing, resisting those who would make a mockery of justice and contravene the a geneva conventions wi a twisted cruel penurious assault on the definitions guiding the interpretation of the laws. Wikipedia has many wary readers. There is actually an application you can use to find out what IP addresses are editing or creating info. This is a resistance to tyranny. bravo.

  34. kraqus  January 3, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    I like what people are saying in the Youtube comments section on that video….Seems like the American People are waking up….

    Wake up sleeping Giant…..Wake up…..

  35. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Jewish slaves built the Hoover Dam…check Wikipedia…I am sure it is there by now.
    g

  36. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    TOS warning ignored.
    g

  37. kraqus  January 3, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    VERY NICE !!!!
    An Army of Zombies getting paid with your tax dollars to spread Zionist propaganda.
    They are making Kool Aid !!!!

    p.s: I don’t drink Kool aid nor dance the Macarena.

  38. NightFlyer  January 3, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Excellent action. Given the fact that most young Americans cannot read, the amount of damage may have been quite small overall. Pointing out this website now is a very proactive move. Keep up the good work.

  39. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Bill
    Maybe a bit more should be done. We already hide in our homes. Now we have to ….think of how far this goes.
    g

  40. J. McCormick  January 3, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Okay Dan, I understand better now what you had in mind. A good theme to develop, comparing the “fruits” of both.

  41. Paul V. Sheridan  January 3, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    EXCELLENT!

    I am constantly reprimanding those who send me links to Wikipedia.

    Wikipedia is a talmudic sewer.

    That which passes as “information” at that site is not merely adolescent/obvious, it is downright grotesque/insulting.

    Every lie from HIV=AIDS to CO2=Global_Warming to OsamabinLaden=9/11 to Einstein=Genius can be found at that soulless website.

    Well done. You will never find a reference to that sewer in anything I submit to VeteransToday.

  42. Dan  January 3, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    I’d meant to draw a parallel between the evil intent of Jewish intellectuals, like the ones you mention, on the one hand, and the death of the metaphysical center of Western Civilization at the hands of non-Jews like Bacon, Kant, Compte and so on, on the other.

  43. Richard Edmondson  January 3, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    I have found Wikipedia useful when looking up subjects totally unrelated to politics (articles on, say, botany for instance), but my rule of thumb has always been never trust them on any subject even remotely connected to current events, war, politics, the Middle East, etc. How many people are likely to make that distinction, though? My guess is that younger people especially, say in their teens or early twenties, are probably, at least in many cases, not going to. Thinking critically doesn’t come easy at that age. So for that reason, I think this is probably a good policy.

    An example of Wiki bias I came across just today illustrates my point perhaps. I was researching the Israeli apartheid wall and decided, just out of curiosity, to check Wiki’s article on it–even though I knew it would be biased. It was. Moreso even than I expected. Their article on the subject is entitled “The Israeli West Bank Barrier” and contains a section purporting to show how Palestinians have actually BENEFITED from the wall. (See below.) Younger readers, and probably many adults for that matter, would read such an article and get an idea that the wall is for the most part benign and necessary.

    Fewer checkpoints and roadblocks

    In June 2004, The Washington Times[45] reported that the reduced Israeli military incursions in Jenin have prompted efforts to rebuild damaged streets and buildings and a gradual return to a semblance of normality, and in a letter[46] dated October 25, 2004, from the Israeli mission to Kofi Annan, Israel’s government pointed out that a number of restrictions east of the barrier have been lifted as a result of it, including a reduction in checkpoints from 71 to 47 and roadblocks from 197 to 111. The Jerusalem Post reports that, for some Palestinians who are Israeli citizens living in the Israeli Arab town of Umm el-Fahm (population 42,000) near Jenin, the barrier has “significantly improved their lives” because, on one hand, it prevents would-be thieves or terrorists from coming to their town and, on the other hand, has increased the flow of customers from other parts of Israel who would normally have patronised Palestinian business in the West Bank, resulting in an economic boom. The report states that the downsides are that the barrier has divided families in half and “damaged Israeli Arabs’ solidarity with the Palestinians living on the other side of the Green Line”.[47]

    A UN report released in August 2005 observed that the existence of the barrier “replaced the need for closures: movement within the northern West Bank, for example, is less restrictive where the Barrier has been constructed. Physical obstacles have also been removed in Ramallah and Jerusalem governorates where the Barrier is under construction.” The report notes that more freedom of movement in rural areas may ease Palestinian access to hospitals and schools, but also notes that restrictions on movement between urban population centers have not significantly changed.[48]

  44. Mihail  January 3, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Read this book to see what is coming to those Ashkenazi devils.
    Who Is Esau-Edom.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/19745589/Who-is-EsauEdom

  45. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    You have to firewall the human mind from covertly embedded suggestion before you can truly secure democratic entities in democracy.

  46. John  January 3, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    And it is all being paid for with US American tax dollars.

  47. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    yufyu
    in a perfect world, we could all eat blindfold from plates where every other forkfull is poison
    tell me how that works out for u
    in this world, we control the vermin
    g

  48. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    lila
    it isn’t censorship
    its pest control
    no vermin allowed
    g

  49. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    you get it

  50. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    I meant ‘transparent’ as in unseen,unnoticed, and forgotten (induced amnesia). My blog tries to explain it better. It is a difficult topic to discuss.

  51. Steve Johnson  January 3, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Deleting pesky versions of history and installing ones own sanitized version has long been the hallmark of dictators and psychopaths alike. We as human beings have a completely hidden past and history that is barely ever mentioned even in schools and colleges:
    See Free .pdf book :

    Earths Forbidden Secrets
    http://thecrowhouse.com/projects.html

    All about the hidden past history of human beings on this particular planet.

    IF ANY information is going to arm human beings with truth or enlightenment, it is quickly controlled and sanitized in a typical mop-up operation.

    Thankfully the internet is the one tool they were caught on the backfoot unaware of its potential and are scrambling like mad morons to catch up with. I am still amazed how in ten short years the internet has gone from a place to chat and find free porn to a resource that has the potential to change the entire world, and awaken the sleeping masses with a short sharp shock to the cerebral testicles.
    -Steve J

  52. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Conservapedia is Neo-Conservapedia by design of course. It is a joke of course.

  53. J. McCormick  January 3, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    “…we’re still living out the hellish implications of the so-called Age of Reason, or Enlightenment, which John Adams, I think it was, said should properly be called The Age of Insanity.”

    Well said!

  54. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Why are there so many conspiracy theories and frustration’s with understanding politics, American History, and our leaders? It is caused by a poor understanding of the covert use of mind technology in our country. American journalists, those with a mass media voice, are ‘allowed’ their voice by the centrally controlling American leaders who many decades ago created a transparent ‘handling infrastructure’ that relies on amnesia of conversations, most of them over the phone. Individuals with a mass media voice in America are easily attacked and their careers ended using embedded suggestion. Events are hypnoscripted in a mind police state like the U.S. So why are there so many theories and frustration’s? Because conspiracy exists and no one talks about the covert use of mind technology in this country that allows it to exist….they are not allowed to.

  55. J. McCormick  January 3, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    We have not had a democracy for a long while, if we ever did. We had a Republic but could not hold on to it. We had a “beneficent oligarchy” which seems to have morphed into a malevolent oligarchy, thanks in no small part to those who definitely did not, and don’t, put America First. How “Democracy” came to be the culprit for Mr. Minogue I don’t know, but i haven’t read his book. Comparing the Age of Reason (however misguided its proponents may have been) to the deliberate, relentless assault on western civilization and its “authoritarian personality” (Freud, Boas,
    Adorno, Derrida, Marx) with intent to destroy seems bizarre. I understand your point, but the comparison still seems bizarre, even though the worst of the Age of Reason may appear to have spawned AIPAC’s cover (using a little imagination).

  56. Percy  January 3, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Further, when I tried to edit something I knew was wrong, I not only had the information, but the link to prove it and have them follow up if they did not like my proof. They blocked me from putting it up before ever finding out if the info was correct, yet they let others do it with a warning that it had to be verified first.

    What I had t say and prove was about Israel and that is when I knew they must be owned. I found out later the owner is a dual israeli citizen. I was unable to confirm that because there is not another wikipedia to do so.

  57. Lila Rajiva  January 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    @yufyu

    Sorry. I understand why blog owners censor.

    You get trolls, who actually come to a site to disparage it and aren’t really debating, but smearing. Why should the owner spend the money and time to run a blog and then allow some moron who knows nothing except to run his mouth overtime to keep spewing rubbish? Let him go to his own site and do it.

    The public is not owed one darn thing by any one.

    It should mind its manners if it expects activists to spend their time informing it at no cost.

    Education is a privilege. If you don’t make the effort, why should someone else educate you freely and all they get in reward is to be spat on?

  58. J. Bruce Campbell  January 3, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Well, that truth bit there is going to disappear, when those Likudnik hackers graduate. Conservapedia is good but it could become Neo-Conservapedia. Need something with a better firewall feel to it, something they wouldn’t want to touch. Woodenstakepedia or Garlicpedia.

  59. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    I think we need to support Wikipedia. Wikipedia is better that mainstream media. It has a References, backs up revisions, and alternative reasons for controversial events. Like this…”It has been claimed that Israeli agents may have had foreknowledge of the attacks. Four hours after the attack, the FBI arrested five Israelis who had been filming the smoking skyline from the roof of a white van in the parking lot of an apartment building, for “puzzling behavior”. The Israelis were videotaping the events, and one bystander said they acted in a suspicious manner: “They were like happy, you know … They didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,”

  60. yufyu  January 3, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    sorry but the truth does not fear any information. Putting a red banner at the top of the page that tells of the evils and lies of wikipedia would be much more just and effective. I don’t see how anyone could possibly use a link to wikipedia to prove any type of factual point bu this censoring that goes on among the ” truth-seeking” web sites is growing increasingly disturbing and all too common. What exactly makes us better than the scuzmedia censoring and making people register? And sadly, its MOST sites. This site has a good thing going with public comments, even if you don’t agree with them. I barely even participate anymore because most sites require registration and unfortunately I know more about whats going on than most web site owners and 97+% of commenters and my voice is removed each time and at this point I’m on my own again and don’t care anymore about what happens or spreading truth because most aren’t interested in anything but their own agenda and run-on sentences like this one. There are very few leaders or heroes in our movmenet so people obviously see potential in Gordon Duff and I say he needs to grow into that responsibility properly and acting like the mainstream media and jews who dont want other people’s opinions to matter is NOT the way to go.
    And finally, I want you to KNOW, KNOW that if Israel did not exist at all NOTHINNG would be different. The power is not sitting in that dust hole. Its a distraction and quite frankly not helpful to ignore the real power players. ENough ranting, most everything you publish I agree with to a point., I am not your enemy. I am however growing concerned with the tendency even among so called truth seekers and freedom fighters this tendency to try to smother out alternative positions instead of debunking them fully with FACTS and LOGIC

  61. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    The revisionist alternative is probably Conservapedia. I checked Wikipedia and found “Up until World War II, violence in Palestine was sporadic, and intensified in relation to increased Jewish immigration as part of the Zionist movement, which sought to create a Jewish state in the rightful land of the Arab population living in Palestine.” Notice “rightful land of the Arab population”. If it is not fair, where is Wikipedia not fair? Yes, it is under attack, but is it still objective? Where is some proof it is compromised?

  62. Bill Painter  January 3, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    The revisionist alternative is probably Conservapedia. I checked Wikipedia and found “Up until World War II, violence in Palestine was sporadic, and intensified in relation to increased Jewish immigration as part of the Zionist movement, which sought to create a Jewish state in the rightful land of the Arab population living in Palestine.” Notice “rightful land of the Arab population”. If it is not fair, where is Wikipedia not fair? Yes, it is under attack, but is it still objective? Where is some proof it is compromised?

  63. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 3, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    She’s doing everyone a favor, since nobody should have been relying on wikipedia in the first place. Thank you, little miss psychopath.

  64. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 3, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    We’ve already got your “worldopedia” – it’s called the INTERNET.

  65. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 3, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Whatreallyhappened.com? Mike Rivero? “informed… …and independent”. Well hahaha. Mike Rivero is a government agent who pushes the F77 lie to protect his real employers.

  66. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 3, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    I’m surprised only that it has taken this long to get here. Wikipedia has always pushed the 9/11 Lie, the Holocaust fraud and assorted scientific frauds from Big Bang to Global Warming.

    The Internet is full of info about everything, in articles by real people with real names. Wikipedia was only ever another Jewish attempt to replace truth with lies.

  67. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 3, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    What? Give up their US Social Security payments? In any case, Little Miss Zion and her fellow psychopaths ARE the “murderous, expansionist, racist, zionist state”.

  68. Erica Stuart  January 3, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Well now I know I was not crazy. Seldom use it but once I looked for some info on a project and I noted they had not included the name of the most important figure on the subject. Since they say if you have additional info please provide, so I did and asked why they left out such an important person. Cryptic answer no changes so I decided then not reliable, it was not a minor mistake and it was historical.

  69. J. Bruce Campbell  January 3, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    You can’t have open discussions with liars. Doesn’t lead anywhere. Liars lie and you’re back where you started, except with a lot of lost time.

    You are deliberately mixing honest mistakes (the potential to publish incorrect information) with lies. Honest people make mistakes and correct them. Liars keep lying. The Jews in the video are being trained to insert Zionist lies into Wikipedia. The female admits she tried to insert the Zionist version but didn’t know how because it’s not easy. But now she and the others are being trained by Mossad professional hackers to insert Zionist propaganda into Wikipedia, which nullifies its usefulness.

  70. interdrive  January 3, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    a cubicle or compartment oughta do it,we/? shall call it the DEPT. of Compartments & Cubicles of things wretched and wicn or evo,things wickedly evolved till sinister or diabolic,allready have one ya say , its called state/snake,,,does it speak ???in english or crypt

  71. Howard T. Lewis III  January 3, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Does Wikipedia know which buildings in the U.S. besides the Sears Tower are loaded with stable but ready to fuse thermite? It is relevant to air this so no one is surprised if or when the pigs start setting off more buildings. You can bet they know which structures are set already.Extra car and truck bombs were detonated in Manhattan to add to the confusion on 9-11-2001 A.M.. And I can believe the land lords would have let some of the wrong people know about these demolition systems as well.

    Feel free to e-mail me. But a secured line would be better. Someone can get into my computer and I heard half of a conversation in Hebrew (not Arabic or Farsi)for several minutes as background noise at a Wi-Fi location one day. I also have been confronted by an openly Israeli person who admitted to Mossad connections a few months ago. I have many questions.Peace and victory in November. Won’t get fooled again.

  72. Percy  January 3, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Good idea, indeed. However, how come no one is asking questions given the following known variables that are hard core proven……

    1. wikileaks passed the leaks by Israel before releasing them.

    2. Wikileaks passed the leaks by Israel’s governor general of Israel’s territorial occupation government in the US state dept, Governor General Hillary Clinton.

    3. Further, wikileaks passed the leaks past the Israeli foreign occupying army in control of the pentagon,

    4. Wikileaks further passed the leaks by the Israeli Rothschild international banker owned MSM before publishing the leaks……

    SO THE QUESTION WE SHOULD ALL BE ASKING IS “WHY” ARE THEY DOING THIS WHEN THEY HAD CONTROL OF THE LEAKS FROM THE BEGINNING?????

    I am sure there are a variety of answers to that question, but I have one that I feel given the variables above, is really the only answer that makes sense. And its this:

    ANS: Wikileaks has been outted big time by not only Gordon Duff but other very reputable reporters such as Tarpley and others. So, his reputation thusly has suffered sufficiently to negate the quality and acceptability of the leaks which in reality would have supported Israels position on invading Iran. Remember, Netanyahu said very clearly “These leaks have been good for Israel”. Did he not say that???

    So, the make a short answer, its an attempt by israel to retreive wikileaks soiled reputation from being israels disinfo lap dog. The only way to do it was to pretend they were upset at him and messing with wikipedia. Well, that is not new, they have been doing that for sometime now and we all pretty much knew that.
    Further, Israel is one of the most hated countries on the planet and so they had nothing to lose by PRETENDING TO GO AFTER THE CULT HERO ASSANGE AND THUS DERIVE SYMPATHY FOR ASSANGE THROUGH THE ALTERNATIVE PRESS ALLOWING HIM TO CONTINUE TO SERVER ISREAELS INTERESTS AS HE HAS SO FAR. THAT IS MY ANSWER. ANY ONE GOT A BETTER ONE THAT FITS THE SAME FACTS AS OUTLINED ABOVE????

  73. Dan  January 3, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Right, and for what it’s worth, the iconoclastic philosopher Kenneth Minogue has new book out, The Servile Mind, How Democracy Erodes the Moral Life. I just started it, but it’s very good so far. He describes the average citizen in the Anglophone world as a “vulgar utilitarian,” which unfortunately is all too true, who lets the likes of the fascist Fox News distort his ethical judgment to the point where the mass murder of millions of innocent Muslims is justified to keep America safe for something or other. It can’t be to preserve our freedoms, since they’re being extinguished at every turn. Well-meaning citizens have become, as Spengler put it, “mere functions of some monstrous Something,” where there could be no greater caricature of freedom than the notion in the head of the average citizen that he thinks for himself. Another comment mentions Kein MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, which proves, to my satisfaction at least, that Jewish intellectuals, in their own words, have been engaged in a war to destroy Christianity and Western Civilization in this country for at least 80 years now. But, Jewish intellectuals are hardly alone, and we’re still living out the hellish implications of the so-called Age of Reason, or Enlightenment, which John Adams, I think it was, said should properly be called The Age of Insanity.

  74. OS  January 3, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Had friend from Texas, in 70’s was National Rodeo Champion, in the late 70’s was moved to Delta Force Team. Lost contact with later, I believe accident during conflict in 80’s. He was top Delta Team Leader, was good man, and would trust him with life.

  75. Dr.Nur  January 3, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Good idea ! And it is also an important statement from, of all places VT which represents and informs with great aptitude american veterans who used to be,in younger days, the helpless and unquestioning canon fodder of the Isramerico military-industrial-banking-world-domination-cowboy-genocidal complex and now VT has increasingly other faithful and appreciating foreigners like me around the world. It is a great step forward and welcome awakening from the people of the USA and something heroic,hopeful,and really constructive at last!.. http://Www.Presstv.com has done a great job in putting together the best english information free international TV channel in the world online anywhere with minimal funding. What about asking them to join forces with Chavez and others to help us put together an alternative independent and objective “Worldopedia”as mentionned by JB Campbell? The jews have well understood that information,education,media and entertainment are a weapon that can defeat all others. We can’t leave them the monopolies and although most of our governments are bought out traitors to Isramerico NWO finance looters : let our peoples rise and be true patriots and heros in defeating these rats !!!

  76. OS  January 3, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    It sounds like we need a new Department in Washington,

    “The Department of Wiki-Things”.

  77. Dan  January 3, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    So true. Some monitors for Yahoo News’ comments section appear to be sayanim as well, except it appears they allow really hateful stuff to pass through if it depicts the opposition to fighting wars for Israel as an insane, lunatic fringe.

  78. Texas Vet  January 3, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Well said, Bruce. Keep drilling!

    T.V.

  79. Texas Vet  January 3, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Do I assume correctly that banning Wikipedia includes banning Wikileaks? And all the rest of Wiki spin-offs?

    BTW, that’s okay with me. Those of us who have dwelled in and around the computer nerd business for years have known about the Wiki-Mess bastardization — and therefore, generally ignore it, or any references to it as facts.

    I will say, I got an email from the Wikileaks founder asking for a donation. Delete!

    T.V.

  80. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    That is wrong of Wilkipedia and very sad to hear.

  81. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    argonium,
    your discussions are pointless and time wasting. they have no reason nor purpose, no logic.
    find a better way to spend your time.

  82. Gordon Duff  January 3, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Annie
    Key sites have been sabotaged and then “locked down” by Wikipedia senior “monitors.” Other sites are ravaged over and over, under assigned “monitors”, really cyberterrorists,24 hours a day.

  83. argonium79  January 3, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    So basically they are being taught to make wikipedia not poisoned for them because their opposition is adding it and you are the opposition that is being taught to avoid wikipedia because it is poison for your children… great.

  84. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I have noticed.

  85. OS  January 3, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Ken,

    Hang in there, and keep up the good work. I am glad VT is tracking some of the connections and again would recommend “webtrends” (Analytics) to analyze your website server and information’s related to connections. And also suggest people to protect your computers from backdoor programs commonly loaded through email links. I am Senior Electronic Engineer and understand how attacks are directed toward people, if you have any problems, feel free to ask for technical assistance.

  86. rachel  January 3, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    I personally find wikipedia good for very few things. Like construction of the hoover dam, basic info and such. I would never trust the site for accurate info on the middle east or anything Zionist related.

    I get far better info from informed bloggers and independant media, like What Really Happned.com and this site here. (I would place Vetrans Today as one of the best sites out there.)

    Thank you for exposing this! Great job!

  87. J. McCormick  January 3, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Spot on. But Americans have had a relentless enemy too, well-funded and net-worked to the hilt. Not to excuse them, but Americans have had no idea they really needed the “eternal vigilance” that Thomas Jefferson said they needed. They thought their elected officials would do it for them.

  88. Project Zahir Ebrahim | Humanbeingsfirst.org  January 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    On Israeli Hasbara training of the indoctrinated zionists, the problem is not properly understood at all.

    Indoctrination is indoctrination. The American public, American soldiers, American parents, American youth, et. al., cheering ‘United We Stand’ – are they any different?

    Just manifests itself in different ways.

    Zionists are no special case of Good Germans any more than Good Americans, any more than the Islamofascist suicide bombers and other mind-controlled widgets of modernity who are diabolically cultivated, strategically harnessed, to serve the common purpose of the oligarchy.

    Zionism really has to be understood in this light – all these Hasbara drones and many flavored zionists are dispensable widgets.

    In order to counter them effectively, you have to counter their prime-movers who cultivate the robots of modernity.

    One path to this, two cents worth, was outlined in my pamphlet on How to return to Palestine – if interested, look it up.

    Thank you

    Zahir Ebrahim
    Project Humanbeingsfirst.org

  89. J. Bruce Campbell  January 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Scared? Well, I guess we should all be “scared” of being poisoned. We try to avoid food poisoning, at all costs. VT has put the world on notice that paid Jewish liars are poisoning information, the way they poison everything else that they touch.

  90. OS  January 3, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    I was just wondering, since he enjoys trying to trash the comment section on this website.

  91. Ian  January 3, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Oh, you mean that Kool-aide that tastes like a lifetime of Military, intelligence, and financial expertise? That Kool-aide?

  92. Ian  January 3, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    I was banned from editing wikipedia after repeatedly trying to insert language into the “Benjamin Freedman” article to the effect that he was “an American patriot.” These three words, “an American patriot,” constitute “hate speech” in America today. The really sad part is that Americans by and large couldn’t care less about what is happening here. Even when you lay out all the facts and figures for them, present irrefutable arguments and evidence, explain the implications, nothing gets through anymore. The trouble I think is that the predominant attitude in America for last 50 years has been “someone else is taking care of it, so I don’t need to worry.” Henry Ford, I believe, said something to effect of “people deserve the government they get.” And in today’s America, I can’t help thinking that this is true. I’m beginning to suspect, cruel as it may sound, that Americans pretty much deserve everything they’re going to get because they “just didn’t love freedom enough.”

  93. Project Zahir Ebrahim | Humanbeingsfirst.org  January 3, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    FYI: See Wikispooks

    wikispooks.com/wiki/WikiSpooks:The_Problem_with_Wikipedia

    I am not affiliated with it, nor do I know Peter who started it as a collaborative alternative to wikipedia’s censorship, and he got in touch with me to let me know he had put up my ‘Wikileaks and the Mighty Wurlitzer’ piece: wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Wikileaks_and_the_Mighty_Wurlitzer

    Your mileage may vary.

    Zahir Ebrahim

  94. J. McCormick  January 3, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Bravo to Veterans Today for telling it like it is and taking action accordingly.

    Wikipedia is infested with sayanim, the ‘volunteers for Israel’ around the world who spy and corrupt (“by-way-of-deception”) to destroy within the boundaries of sovereign nations non-stop. I first noticed this on Wikipedia several years ago in the write-up on Kevin MacDonald, a professor at California State College at Long Beach (author of The Culture of Critique, exposing the zionist agenda in the U.S.A.). MacDonald is a genius and immensely courageous. But telling the truth about Israel and putting America first put the sayanim on his case and the college where he teaches, parading academic cowardice, has “distanced itself” from him. Not for lying, but for displeasing Israel et al.

    A very basic problem is that AIPAC is not registered as an agent for a foreign government. And the finger point directly at our sayanim Congress.

  95. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    I am deeply sorry to hear that Ken. All of our American major media is taken over and Americans are living in a media blackout. It is frustrating to say the least.

  96. argonium79  January 3, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    So you are saying to all the people who pretend to know the truth about the manipulation and false entries in wikipedia to ignore wikipedia? this israel wikipedia task force is that big and has scared you that much that you want to send all opposition to underground websites because “our children need protection from propaganda” ???

  97. Michael Leon  January 3, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Like the typical militaristic state in history, Israel claims self-defence for its agression and terror.

    And this fundy state is also bigoted and tyrannical–all for the greater good of course.

  98. AdeUK  January 3, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Perhaps there is a positive side to this, little Miss Zion and her friends of israel at the policy-explanation department might read all the available info, get the full picture and realise that the policies and actions of the murderous, expansionist, racist, zionist state are the problem then repent and reform.

    We will then all live happily ever after in peace and harmony.

  99. Ken O'Keefe  January 3, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    As the target of character assassination with Wikipedia as a primary tool, I have to say on a personal level it is irritating. But in terms of the impact Wiki misinformation is having on peoples understanding of the truth; that is truly tragic. What was in many ways a good idea has become a tool for tyranny, and as you say Gordon, the management of Wiki seems quite happy with this. I nominate the two “Wiki’s” for the Lifetime Achievement Goebbels Awards in Global Misinformation.

  100. gesine_hammerling  January 3, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    The original article can be found here:

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

  101. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    He teaches it OS.

  102. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Oh Duh. They are using millions to undermine Wilkipedia. Would be nice if Americans gave a damn and got off their asses to do something about it .

  103. OS  January 3, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    I wonder if Craig PePe attended the training course?

  104. Annie  January 3, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Hmmmmm. Wilkipedia was the only substantive and major resource for a major, but covered-up battle – in American history, and was a breakthrough lead for the research into my husband’s tour overseas. The information we had was later confirmed by his then commander. Can’t Wilkipedia be edited by anyone? Why isn’t the wrong information corrected by conscience and aware people? Maybe certain aspects are being edited misleadingly by certain influences as such that you mention. Can’t that go both ways? Wrong and Right?

  105. ak47blog  January 3, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    THXS

    All wikipedia references in future articles will be eliminated, thanks for your great updates.

    Tommy

  106. J. Bruce Campbell  January 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Perhaps a revisionist alternative to Wikipedia can be developed, one that can be controlled in the same way that VT prevents sabotage – as much as possible. It’s always going to be a struggle to present what we think of as Truth. The liars are like rust – they don’t sleep.

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