Gordon Duff for Veterans Today




VT had received information on missing children in Tucson and throughout Arizona, as many as 2500 under the age of 14.  Confirmations are now in outlining reports made to law enforcement, reports by CI’s (registered confidential informants of law enforcement) and references in Grand Jury testimony.

“Think of what they get for the cornea’s of a 14 year old.  Selling a kid for parts brings in 2 million.  There has been a ‘whisper campaign’ about this for some time, people looking for an explanation for the rash of missing children, all ages, races and backgrounds.”  (from a well known Arizona politician)


“One of the first to be dragged into this sickening ritual of guilt by association: Sarah Palin. Last March, the former Alaska governor posted a map on her Facebook page with crosshair targets representing 20 Democratic lawmakers she was singling out for defeat after they voted for President Obama’s health care plan. One of them was Giffords. Palin, who touts her caribou-hunting heritage, also tweeted, ‘Don’t retreat, RELOAD!'”…Howard Kurtz

Koch Brothers, Israeli-American billionaires, funded attacks on Gifford…VT


jared-terrorist-arizonaJared Loughner is in custody after a shooting in Tucson today that killed 4 thus far including a small child and a Federal judge.  Seriously wounded is a member of congress, Gabrielle Giffords, who is expected to survive.

News reports from Fox and other networks that Loughner is a US Army combat veteran of the war in Afghanistan are false.  That such information, easily verified in seconds, was released to the world, was extremely irresponsible and highly prejudicial to veterans.  Veterans Today finds this type of journalism despicable.

The weapon, reportedly a 9mm semi-automatic pistol with an extended “hi-capacity” magazine was recovered at the scene.  Thus far 18 are reported wounded or dead.

News reports that say Loughner is a military veteran are false.  By his own admission, he was in recruit processing in Phoenix, part of a controversial program meant to bring substandard inductees into the military.

Charges of “mind control” and “Manchurian Candidate” are already filling the internet.

This mysterious video was found on Youtube titled “Jared Loughner, My Final Thoughts”

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In it he describes lack of sleep, thoughts of terrorism, discussions of currency and processing into the US Army.

Most frightening of all is the music.  This is really bad music, indescribably inane, enough to drive anyone from an elevator or a shopping mall.

There is no proof that this is the right person, though this certainly looks like a suicide note from someone preparing to die in a terrorist attack, someone with issues about the bible and impending military service.




From Adrien Chen at

“We spoke to an eyewitness, Steven Rayle, who was on the scene at the time of the shooting and helped to hold the suspect down while waiting for police. Here’s what he said:
“The event was very informal: Giffords had set up a table outside the Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman, who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Giffords in the head first, “point blank”. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor, Giffords was able to move her hands after being shot.

“After shooting Giffords, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a few seconds, firing 20-30 rounds and hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than 10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead. When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee, but a member of Giffords’ staff tackled him. Rayle helped hold the gunman down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-to-20 minutes later. The EMS came about 30 minutes later. Rayle said he was “stunned” by how long it took medical help to arrive.  …”


Pauline Arrillaga of AP released the following description after consultations with local law enforcement:

“The man, who was photographed by a security camera, was described as white with dark hair and 40-45 years old.”

Additional video has been released and will be made available.  There is absolutely no proof this person is involved nor has he been charged or that he is even being sought for questioning.


Jewish news services, Israel and America, are reporting that Gifford was now a practicing Jew, after her visit to Israel in 2001.  The JTA Jewish Global News explanation is below.  There are a number of questions that are quite legitimately brought up in the article and some carefully avoided, such as the strong Israeli ties to PalinPac, the group that, with funding from Israeli American billionaires has pushed a strong Zionist agenda.  With Israel backing both Gifford and financing those threatening her also, an avenue of possible investigation may need to be opened.

Giffords was elected to Congress in the Democratic sweep in 2006. The first Jewish woman elected to Congress from the state, she made her Jewish identity part of her campaign.

“If you want something done, your best bet is to ask a Jewish woman to do it,” said Giffords, a former state senator, said at the time. “Jewish women — by our tradition and by the way we were raised — have an ability to cut through all the reasons why something should, shouldn’t or can’t be done and pull people together to be successful.”

Giffords, 40, was raised “mixed” by a Christian Scientist mother and Jewish father, but said that after a visit to Israel in 2001, she had decided she was Jewish only. She attended services at a local Reform synagogue.

In one of her last photos, she posed with the new U.S. House of Representatives speaker, Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) at her swearing in; her hand is on the “Five Books of Moses.”

Giffords fought a hard election this year, against the national anti-incumbent, anti-Democratic mood. She tacked to the right of her party on immigration, saying border security was of primary consideration.

The election was called in her favor weeks after the vote.

Giffords’ office had been vandalized in March, after she voted for health care reform. Friends said she had received threats for her positions on health care and for opposing her state’s new law allowing police to arrest undocumented immigrants during routine stops.

The National Jewish Democratic Council suggested that the heated rhetoric of the last year contributed to the climate that led to the attack.

From Arutz Sheva, the Israel News Service:

Giffords once began an op-ed piece for the Arizona Jewish Post with a proud recital of her family roots, explaining that she is the grandchild of Akiba Hornstein, who was “the son of a Lithuanian rabbi.” Her grandfather changed his name, she said, as did so many others who came to United States, to Giffords “for reasons of anti-Semitism.” More than 50 years later, “like my grandmother, I am a lifetime member of Hadassah and now a member of Congregation Chaverim,” she wrote.

The Congresswoman supports direct talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, believing that “peace between Israel and her neighbors can only be achieved by direct talks between the parties. Until the Palestinian leadership and other hostile regimes are willing to accept Israel’s right to exist, it will be impossible to achieve peace,” she wrote in 2006. “I believe that the United States can help by providing a mediator who can be trusted by both sides… “

During her tenure in the Arizona State Senate, Giffords had the opportunity to visit Jerusalem. “It was one of the most memorable experiences of my life,” she said.

“I got to see firsthand the sacrifices that Israelis make in the name of security because of the dangerous state of affairs there. I will always be a strong supporter of Israel.”


On a darker note, there are other videos with references to mind control.  We will continue watching the story and see what is released to the press.  We have learned to note such things.


“PalinPac” called for Congresswoman Giffords to be “targeted” in a campaign that made more than casual reference to gun violence.  Reports are coming in from Arizona that few are surprised by the shootings.  Locals report that the recent campaign against Giffords by Marine veteran Jesse Kelly, the ‘Tea Party” candidate, was one of the most acrimonious in American political history.  Advertising, outlined below, advocating the election of ultra-nationalist Kelly, could easily be considered support of terrorism and is believed by many to have contributed to today’s holocaust.


Giffords, a Democrat, showed surprising financial support, particularly from PAC’s (Political Action Committees) during the 2010 campaign.  The chart below outlines the curious imbalance in an election year where many other Republican candidates were able to outspend their Democratic opponents handily.


John McCarthy Roll, the Federal Judge who died, born in Pennsylvania, University of Arizona degrees, appointed in 91 by George H.W. Bush.  In 2009, he received 200 death threats in a single day for a ruling on immigration and put under protection by US Marshal’s.  Judge Roll may well have been the intended target.  Where was Judge Roll’s security detail?

The editors and staff at Veterans Today give our best wishes and sympathy to all those who suffer from today’s events.



The following video was tagged a “favorite ” by the alleged shooter.

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Alan Grayson Comments:

A reporter called me a little while ago, and told me that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords had been shot at a public event. She is in critical condition.

I’m going to let others comment on what this means for America. I just want to say what it means to me.

Gabrielle Giffords and I served together on the House Committee on Science and Technology. She was the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics, and I was a member of that subcommittee. Her D.C. office was one floor above mine.

I saw Gabby dozens, if not hundreds of times, during our two years together. And nearly every time that I can remember, she was smiling.

Gabby is one of the most cheerful, charming and engaging people I have ever known. She’s always looking on the bright side. She has something good to say about pretty much everyone. Bad news never lays a glove on her. She loves life, and all the people in it.

No matter what is going on in your life, after fifteen minutes with Gabby, you’ll feel that you can touch the stars.

Everyone knew that Gabby would have a tough race in 2010. (She actually won with 49% of the vote.) But I always thought that if each of her constituents could spend that fifteen minutes with her, and see what she is really like, then she would win with 99.9% of the vote. (Same thing about Harry Teague of New Mexico, who lost, and a few others that I could name.) You would want her as your Congressman, because you would want her as your friend.

I know nothing about the man who shot Gabby, and what was going through his mind when he did this. But I will tell you this – if he shot Gabby out of hatred, then it wasn’t Gabby he was shooting, but rather some cartoon version of her, drawn by her political opposition. Because there is no way – NO WAY – that anyone who really knows Gabby could hate her or hurt her. She is a kind, gentle soul.

My heart goes out to Mark Kelly, Gabby’s husband, and the many, many people who love her. Gabby, we don’t want to lose you. Please stay here with us.

Alan Grayson

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  1. OS  January 14, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    I am fully aware of your message of hate, and understand your methods. You must stereotype people into this area, “The group you hate”, and thereafter spread your message of hate and anti-American speech.

    This is obvious and clear through your messages, one only has to collect and evaluate. You require some group to victimize, thereafter anyone who doesn’t agree with you, must be apart of this group.

  2. OS  January 12, 2011 at 12:50 am

    Did I blow your cover?

  3. OS  January 12, 2011 at 12:49 am

    FireBreather & Reese, and other names you use.

    And you are “Propaganda Agent”, are you still living in Canada, or have you returned to Pakistan? It doesn’t matter to me,……..propaganda agent.

    How is your……French speaking coming these days?

    i = I, you should brush up on your…..English some. And I understand your goals, just hoping to take down American. Have you found a victim to manipulate, isn’t that the idea?

    And what better place to attempt to get one, a veterans website.

  4. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Yeah, like “The Manchurian Candidate”!


  5. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 9:40 am

    I know from personal experience if a citizen asks to speak to a postal clerk’s supervisor, six squad cars will be there within a few minutes.


  6. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 9:15 am

    George, you make an excellent point. What happens when the mind programmers are seriously mentally ill themselves. The idea that they are socio-psychopaths themselves opens a whole new realm of speculation and INSANITY.

    I can tell you one thing for sure and that is my uncle a “highly placed” CIA official (NY Times, Washington Post), at a time (before his death) when he couldn’t even tell me he was CIA, let me know without speaking a word how “for real” “The Manchurian Candidate” film was as far as CIA is concerned. I watched the film with him at a public movie theater at a time it was mysteriously pulled off the market.

    Frank Sinatra was intimately acquainted with CIA personnel at the very highest levels. Though Frankenheimer made an excellent film, it would never have been so highly acclaimed if it weren’t for the fact it came directly out of the top secret CIA play book.

    Frankenheimer’s “success”was as much due to his background in the latest intelligence projects as it was to any personal talents he possessed. I believe a large body of the “in the know” knew the actual significance of this movie all along and their nonintelligence associates got the message that the story was no joke or fantasy.


  7. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 8:56 am

    This is all “small potatoes” compared to pulling off 911!


  8. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Has Rahm Emanuel left the Whitehouse yet? I heard he was leaving but not when.
    Not that his replacement will be any better.


  9. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Thanks to the “SMART” jews propaganda is the only growing business in America today! They will even hire morons. That is why “liberal” “progressive” jews in America think jewish control of everything is real progress. They don’t like to say it publicly, but they can’t help it that they are just so smart and the goyim are so dumb!


  10. Michael J Volz  January 11, 2011 at 8:46 am

    “Fighting” “poverty” pays! Especially with mossad backing. The oligarchs of Russia think that is the way to go too.


  11. George Nicholson  January 11, 2011 at 12:25 am

    I’ve only been able to see “The Manchurian Candidate” twice… at the time of its initial release and then several years later on TV. I would very much like to see it again, and can well understand JFK’s “obsession” with the film. History shows that he had every reason to be so concerned, and who knew that Frankie was such a GREAT ACTOR!

    The information on Richard Condon and John Frankenheimer is much appreciated and will drive me to get a DVD of the film asap.

    Although I concede that “brain-washing” and “programming” of the degree suggested in the film, is plausible, I very much doubt that it can be achieved in a severely disturbed mind. Indeed I doubt that Psychiatrists have the slightest idea why the schizophrenic is who he or she “is”, or why their brains function in the grossly abnormal way that they do. Neverthelss, it is intensely amusing to note the rapidity with which the “conspiracy theorists” have leapt into the fray to explain the seemingly inexplicable.

    He is going to have the benefit of a gifted and experienced attorney, and this is, in itself, an extraordinary manifesation of “American Justice”. I very much doubt that there will be significant differences between the opinions of the psychiatrists for the Prosecution and the Defence.

    But, on a more sober note, I have to comment on two missed opportunities to provide this unfortunate young man with adequate medical care. Firstly when he was expelled from his “college”, and secondly when he was not accepted by the Army. In the latter case, the odds are 100 to 1 that he had a Medical Examination, and 1000 to 1 that he failed that examination, not because of a physical impairment, but because there was something “seriously wrong” with this person.

    Every American believes that the USA has “The Best Health Care System In The World”. But if that system, given two bites at the cherry, is not geared, at its very basic levels, to recognise (severe!) mental illness. and has not devised appropriate responses, it cannot easily defend challenges to that claim of “Best System”.

  12. OS  January 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    In the country where i = I.

  13. Jack  January 10, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    another interesting article which has major significance in reference to the shooting in arizona

  14. Jack  January 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    interesting read for what its worth

  15. OS  January 10, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Thanks TJ.

  16. OS  January 10, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    The reason stated, where was the security? I have never heard of an event like this with no minimum of one police unit (two police one car)? When gunman was reloading some person attacked the gunman, others thereafter tackled when he was running away, where was police unit?

    Most basic security (one police unit)?

  17. Speed of Dark  January 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Thank you Gordon for filtering out the “Godspam” before it got knee deep!


  18. NightFlyer  January 10, 2011 at 11:06 am

    A highly emotional imaginative script, presented at what appears to me as a distraction, from all recent (supposed) current events. If a painting, all that’s missing is a dog. Those who were receiving much exposure and negative attention may have simply used (as they do) one of their own to get everyone off their backs. With this they pull out the sympathy card as well.

    Didn’t stop the bulldozers in East Jerulism (sic) (on purpose). Everyone should be looking around for what else is taking place instead of staying distracted.

    It’s the door gunner thing to do. Do not fixate, keep scanning. Over.

  19. OS  January 10, 2011 at 10:24 am


    Did you get your “Key Word” quota in for the day?

  20. OS  January 10, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Last several comments are reference to Firebreather, links are being broke “again”.

  21. OS  January 10, 2011 at 10:07 am

    I see the reply link isn’t working again.

  22. OS  January 10, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Reference to FireBreather or Mr. Dragon.

  23. OS  January 10, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Let’s talk about why………you say in some comment sections “your an American” and in other……..statements you say “you Americans”.

    It doesn’t really……….matter to me, just curious? People who talk……….in two different directions.


  24. Michael J Volz  January 10, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Gordon, It seems like you are being selective according to content you might not like, not length.. This is the first I heard about too long posts and Larry D wants links so he can “evaluate” the validity of the sources. What is the max length permissible?

    What do you think about Lt Gen Tom Mcinerney? Is he one of you buddies.


  25. Michael J Volz  January 10, 2011 at 8:48 am

    When it comes to sayinim, they don’t care if your mother is from Mars. They will let you serve them any way they wish. The point is jews are not being kill in America because they are jews.


  26. RRRRRZZZZ  January 10, 2011 at 6:53 am


  27. RRRRRZZZZ  January 10, 2011 at 6:24 am


  28. Bill Painter  January 10, 2011 at 4:18 am

    Greg, I agree…

  29. Bill Painter  January 10, 2011 at 3:38 am

    Yes, it is a very fishy script. The event has enough improbable anomalies integrated into the details that it is implausible the event was natural, but instead hypnoscripted. This implies the event creators think the event losses were necessary to get a point across. Our centrally controlled press will service the point in the near future of course. Notice, the event creators had enough time on their hands play with the details and give us plenty to free associate with. I noticed the shooter’s middle name is ‘Lee’ and a government employee handled in was named ‘John’. These type of hypnoscripted events were more common during the cold war in the U.S.

  30. Greg Bacon  January 10, 2011 at 2:57 am

    YouTube – SPLC’s Potok Refers To David Icke As A Right Winger & Links Him To Giffords’s Shooting

    “SPLC Morris Dees linked to the Oklahoma City Bombing”

    Exposed for the first time, the FBI acknowledged the SPLC was engaged in an undercover role where they monitored subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the white supremacist compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir.

  31. OS  January 10, 2011 at 2:16 am

    I think your right TJ, never heard of this until you mentioned.

  32. gil leonard  January 10, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Very fishy script, even more bizarre – apparently the 9 year old was born 9/11/01

  33. kraqus  January 10, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Where do I sign up?

  34. Speed of Dark  January 9, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    OK, now…I have just read via MSM that the shooter believed the government was involved in 9/11, he was also linked on line to an “anti-Israel hate site”. That the shooter targeted the congress woman because she is Jewish.

    Perhaps the judge who was invited by phone that morning was the target? Giffords being the decoy?

    OS makes a good point, where was the security? Not one police unit in the shopping center parking lot? Who is this person of interest? Is he the one who created all the on-line gibberish? Or the one who signaled when to open fire?

    I really don’t have the energy for another psy-op!

  35. Penumbra  January 9, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    second para: should be “is” not “are”, sorry runaway thought.

  36. Penumbra  January 9, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    I see it didn’t take long for the “anti-Semitism” propaganda angle to rear its fraudulent head. Thanks for the update and for the vindication of my assessment.

    I suspect the focus on the shooter himself are actually a distraction here. The real dirt of the event and of its intended repercussions lies with the particular targets chosen. There’s a stench here that traces through D.C. and environs all the way back to Tel Aviv, follow the stench.

  37. OS  January 9, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Goldman = Facebook

  38. OS  January 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Very strange comment, we’ve had articles about your stated above.

  39. OS  January 9, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    After reading more, I agree Gordon, something here is very very wrong. Do some more digging, we need a follow-up story.

  40. OS  January 9, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Where was the security? Arrangements?

  41. Speed of Dark  January 9, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Some very troubling points which became MSM visible rather quickly were:

    1. The shooter’s background/mindset was available within hours of the event.

    2. The shooter acted alone was announced/headlined the same afternoon.

    I don’t know, the whole thing has a strange feel/odor about it.


  42. son of frankenstein  January 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Yeah, I was relieved when the MSM finally announced that he had been rejected by the military. My first thoughts were that OK, if he was a veteran, he was probably PTSD and maybe this sad episode would at least help increase awareness.

  43. OS  January 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    As I have stated earlier, it’s sad day in America.

    There’s too many in the politic propaganda business, and their belief is everyone in the country must belong to one side or the other. And if neither, that’s a problem as well.

    An Example:
    About a year ago, was contacted by a group from Harvard University, stating they wanted to perform a survey. The survey was as follows:

    1. What is your race?
    2. What do you think about other races?
    3. What political group do you belong?
    4. Do you associate or affiliate with any politic groups?
    5. Do you belong to the Tea Party Group?
    6. Do you communicate or have affiliation with any Tea Party Members?
    7. Do you believe now, you must pay the price for America’s future?
    8. What do you think about President Obama?
    9. What do you think about affirmative action?
    10. Are you employed?
    11. Have you lost your home yet?

    It’s clear the Harvard Group was building databases, but for what purpose? If pre-knowledge this was political survey, would have stopped. But the person kept insisting to complete, and I wanted to be polite.

    Question (7) was quite puzzling?

    What type of survey was this, racial profiling survey, political profiling survey? This was followed with telephone call after call, mostly harassment. So if you don’t belong to either party, have some disagreement, then you’re an enemy of the party, it’s all quite puzzling?

    So why all the repeated telephone calls, I don’t belong to any political group and vote for candidates and not for parties. Typically swing voter, “Is this the problem?”


    1. Have politics become so institutionalized, that major universities must play this game for funding?
    2. Have typical campaigns turned into political wars, were people are caught in the cross-fire?
    3. Are Americans caught in the middle of down right “Political Wars”?

    And it’s both political parties.

    I have no idea if this incident was politically motivated, but don’t believe politics should be institutionalized, but seeing more and more of this today.


  44. Disco_Destroyer  January 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    What about Sad Days in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan?
    This War of Error is ridiculous to say the least 🙁

  45. Jack  January 9, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    read Final Judgement, by the same author

  46. Jack  January 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    read the op ed at truthout by the rabbi michael lerner, her being jewish is in the title, SPLC was on olbermann, DHS connecting the shooter to white supremacy, isnt it obvious what is going on here???

  47. OS  January 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I agree, very sad day in America.

  48. Jack  January 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    yes, since zionists own both political parties, people are pissed, as they were right before the OKC bombing, we know who had a hand in that horrific day, look for attacks on the 1st and 2nd amendments

  49. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm


    U.S.S. LIBERTY…….

  50. Dave - Ottawa, Canada -  January 9, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Important Questions:

    1. Did Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll’s alleged “preliminary ruling” on United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al 72 hours before the shooting have anything to do with the shooting???

    2. Who pulled his Federal Marshall Security detail and why?

    Always look at who benefits in assassination cases… if you get in the way of a criminal’s revenue stream they will get rid of you – sometimes permanently…

    The story below needs to be verified:


    …top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations [ ]imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed.
    [ ]

    According to this report, Federal Judge [ ]John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [ ]Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.

    The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called [ ]Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the report says, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of [ ]Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional. ”

    My heart goes out to the families of all those injured and killed in this tragedy.
    Dave – Ottawa, Canada –

  51. Jack  January 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    they already have

  52. Jack  January 9, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    now ive seen it all, fox new just reported DHS has connected the shooter to a anti israel occupation website, calling it a white supremacy group, also saw a SPLC hack on olbermann, connecting him to “right wing” david icke, and then read an article by a rabbi, posted by truthout, saying its a vast right wing conspiracy, stating our wonderful government should go after dissenters, but what about the trusted government targeting ant war groups, you can’t have it both ways, more divide and conquer, problem, reaction solution, something smells rotten

  53. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    911 worked pretty good

  54. Greg Bacon  January 9, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Gets Shot – Fred Phelps Thanks God

  55. Just a question  January 9, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    your comment is a good a place to jump in as any…

    She claims to identify now as “only Jewish.” Mother is listed as “Christian Scientist.”

    But was Mother Jewish by BLOOD? Because, unless she was, she won’t be considered Jewish by the Jews regardless of her Jewish father or her conversion to faith.

    If she is not, then would she be considered a good target, because she could be used for “don’t touch the third rail/Anti-Semitism” at the same time as not really being a real person of Jewish ancestry being sacrificed.

    Just my thoughts on the matter…

  56. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Yeah Greg, as others have said and i agree, the judge was probably the real target. With the way things are in America, including the failure to do a legitimate investigation of 911, I don’t in reality know if the jewish politician was even shot or whether a stand in for her, took a bullet.


  57. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Michael Chertoff said “questioning 911 is equivalent to questioning the holocaust” which all good American sheeple know they should never do. They have watched all the jewish Foolywood propaganda movies.

    They also know they should never criticize anything jewish or they will be called an “antisemite” and will loose their friends and/or job!


  58. Gordon Duff  January 9, 2011 at 4:10 pm


    Very long posts and those with Internet links in them will go to the pending folder. I have to release them from there and then they go to the general comment section. I cannot always be there to release the comment immediately when it gets corralled.


  59. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 4:05 pm


    The first two posts were deleted. Thanks for leaving the third. I would not have kept posting if the first two had not been deleted. I assumed you were not censoring me. Though some may think I’m silly, others may find my posts interesting. My posts have not been as long as some others, including “Dr Nur”.

    Best Regards ,




  60. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    JohnG, you have never answered me about:

    1) are you Larry D ? (or)
    2) who is your source for your statement that “Henry Ford was motivated by
    greed and a lust for power”

    I can let it go, but I don’t understand why you won’t cite your source for that and “countless (negative?) non fictional stories on Henry Ford” or why you defend Larry D. ???????????


  61. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I forgot to mention that CIA is now a branch office of mossad and the USA is a principle colony of Israel. Many people who work at CIA are not aware of this or think it is a good thing.

    Many “liberal”, “progressive” Jews in America think “progress” in America means jews run everything, AND LIKE TO BASK IN THE GLORY OF JEWISH SUPREMACY (BECAUSE THE ARE “SO SMART”)BUT WON’T ADMIT THAT! One “liberal”, “progressive” jew I know said American Blacks need the jews at NAACP to do their thinking for them—————TRUE STORY, AND I DON’T THINK DIANE IS ALONE.



  62. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    If there is anyone who thinks the story of “The Manchurian Candidate” is entirely silly fiction, think again.

    It is CENTRAL to American History and the CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY since the fifties. The reason it is CENTRAL to the careers of both Richard Condon, the author of the book and John Frankenheimer, the producer and director of the movie is that it was CENTRAL to everything the top echelons of the government have been doing and though many people in the know, knew this, most do not.

    JFK was obsessed with the movie before he died and the author (Richard Condon) did a “fictional” (follow up?) book in 1973 that paralleled the JFK assassination???????

    Americans should watch and study the ORIGINAL movie if they want to understand Modern American History. The JFK assassination, the greatest unsolved crime of the last century, like 911, the greatest unsolved crime of this century? Why haven’t these crimes been solved? The elite explosives experts at FBI couldn’t find the unreacted thermite in all the dust of the WTC, but private citizens did?

    Re Richard Condon , Author of The Manchurian Candidate, from Houghton Mifflin
    Richard Condon, 1915-1996 , Author, The Manchurian Candidate
    The Manchurian Candidate. Called by critic Charles McCarthy “arguably the best thriller ever written,” Condon’s novel depicts an American soldier brainwashed by the Chinese during the Korean War and turned into a controlled assassin. The novel reflects American politics during the McCarthy era. It would be adapted as a controversial film in 1962, starring Frank Sinatra. Condon was a film publicist before publishing his first novel, The Oldest Confession (1958).

    Winter Kills. Condon gains a critical and commercial success with this taut thriller about a CIA-influenced PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSINATION WITH CLEAR KENNEDY ECHOES.

    Re Frankenheimer, Producer and Director of the film “Manchurian Candidate”


    Director John Frankenheimer first began making movies for the Motion Picture Squadron of the AIR FORCE. When he got out of the service, he turned to television where he built a solid career in directing live television dramas during the 1950’s. The first film he directed was called, The Young Stranger. When he directed Burt Lancaster in The Young Savages in 1961, his film directing career began to take off. He went on to direct Birdman of Alcatraz, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, Seven Days in May, The Fixer, and The Year of the Gun. More recently he directed Ronin, starring Robert De Niro, and Reindeer Games, with Ben Affleck.

    After 1961’s The Young Savages, a courtroom drama that dealt with social problems of the day, Frankenheimer made arguably the three most significant films of his career in 1962.

    The MOST IMPORTANT film by Frankenheimer in 1962 was The Manchurian Candidate. This political suspense thriller starred Frank Sinatra and Angela Landsbury. Both a commercial and critical success, it has retained an enduring following. Riding the success of these films, he formed his own production company, John Frankenheimer Productions, in 1963.

    Frankenheimer made several more important films in the mid-1960s. Seven Days in May (1964) was, like The Manchurian Candidate, another Cold War suspense thriller. This film portrays a military coup attempt against the U.S. government

    1966 releases, Grand Prix and Seconds. The former was about auto racing. Business demands forced Frankenheimer to cut the film in a way he believed was detrimental. The latter was about a man who changes his appearance.

    On a more personal level, Frankenheimer suffered a great loss in the late 1960s. A close of friend of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Frankenheimer had been hosting the presidential candidate at his home in Malibu in 1968 when Kennedy was assassinated. Frankenheimer was devastated by the loss. Soon after Kennedy’s death, he moved to Europe with his second wife,

    When Frankenheimer came back to the United States in the early 1970s, he enjoyed some successes as a filmmaker, though the quality of his work did not match his early films. After the relative failure of The Iceman Cometh (1973), Frankenheimer revived his career with The French Connection II (1975). He saw big box office success with Black Sunday (1977). The plot concerned a TERRORIST who planned to CRASH A BLIMP INTO the Superbowl.

    The Fourth War (1990) was a political thriller in the same vein as The Manchurian Candidate, but without enjoying the same prestige.
    After the relative failure of Year of the Gun (1991), about a CONSPIRACY that forms around an INNOCENT AMERICAN JOURNALIST in Rome, Frankenheimer did not make a film for five years.
    People say, ‘You’ll never do a movie as good as Manchurian Candidate.’ I say, ‘I probably won’t, but you know what? I’m just gonna keep on trudging along.’ But the answer in my own heart is, I think I will.”

    It has been said JFK was obsessed with watching The Manchurian Candidate (1962) before his death and because of the parallels to his own story, the movie was taken off the market for a number of years and then Frank Sinatra purchased it. BTW, Frank Sinatra became a Knight of Malta before his death and some would make hay of that. And some have said RFK was killed by a “Palestinian” mind controlled bot?????????????? What a ridiculous “CONSPIRACY theorey”!!!!!!!!?????????

    What would Matthew Baird say about all this?

  63. Patrick Sullivan  January 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Where’s the Grand jury?

  64. Brian  January 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Since Giffords is Jewish are they going to call this a hate crime? Unless they have proof I hope the Jewish organizations don’t focus on the her being Jewish as the reason she was shot.

  65. Jim  January 9, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    G: zuckerman announced shutting down facebook March 15th..”Its getting to Crazy” he is quoted as motive?????

  66. Edward  January 9, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I’ve read “The New Babylon” by Michael Collins Piper, it explains who the true enemy of America is.

  67. johng  January 9, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    “V” is for Volz. Mike, you really got to quit “nutting” on Larry Dikerstine.

  68. Edward  January 9, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
    “No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

    Thomas Jefferson, Third President of the United States of America and author of the “Declaration of Independence”.

  69. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 2:04 pm




  70. ry  January 9, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Glock comes in a 9mm, and I think others calibers also. More will come from the anti gun jerks that want us to give our guns up. I will be getting a waterproof gun safe and bury mine in my back yard, as some others have done. Will keep the one I carry most of the time on my hip. ry

  71. rachel  January 9, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    you will know this was a false flag operation when 2 more shootings follow. they always do it in threes.

  72. Gordon Duff  January 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm


    You post that began: NEOCON’S FOX NEWS & THEIR PARENT COMPANY, MOSSAD VERY INTERESTED IN JOHN WHEELER HIT: was posted three times. Due to its length I deleted two of those and left one.


  73. brotherhood between people  January 9, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    The Zionism jew is the big problem in this contry and all over the world .

  74. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Gordon, at your convenience, I will be ready to accept the “VT Civilian Patriots Medal of Honor” for smoking out Larry Dickerstine. Some have said my remarks are “silly”, but I smelled Larry’s bagels a mile away.

    I have the honor of receiving the distinction of having been named on VT by Larry’s “South African Friend” as : “pure malice and a ‘brown shirt’ (nazi)”
    all based on nothing. If I recall correctly, he also slyly hinted at one time, I might be a member of the KKK.

    Larry has given up completely on his tack of establishing VT as a white nationalist KKK site because there has been absolutely nothing on VT which remotely hints at the racism on Black card. Larry apparently still reserves the right to play the racism against Jews card.



    Gordon, does Larry work for you? Why do you like him? Comic relief ?
    Why has my post on Mike Leon’s “Wheeler Story” been deleted twice? It is not “silly”. Are you censoring comments here?


  75. Dale R. Suiter  January 9, 2011 at 12:03 pm


    Factual reporting of news is a long lost journalistic skill in America. My background in the Criminal Justice system confirmed, many times that headlines and attention mean more to many major media types than do facts.

    Reporting this coward as a veteran has no excuse among journalists. Opinions reported as fact is the rule in news offices today. There are a few journalists – they are difficult to find. Fox News owes every Vet in America an apology. I doubt we will get one.

    Take care


  76. Michael J Volz  January 9, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Thanks Ken, we have some severely challenged readers here.


  77. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Pearl Harbour – FKN Newz
    Pearl Harbour – FKN Newz

  78. George Nicholson  January 9, 2011 at 11:04 am

    In the main, people who actually believe that “terrorism” works, are themselves more than a little deranged. Try to place yourself “in the mind” of this young man who has a long-standing history of disturbed, and disturbing, behaviour dating back to his college days. It is difficult for me to conceive of anyone, who is bent on “controlling” someone like that, being as successful as you are suggesting. This is “real life” … not the movies, NOT THE MANCHURIAN CONDIDATE! For similar reasons, I cannot believe that this young man’s history of (lifetime) failure, qualifies him as an extremely clever psychopath. He will soon be in the hands of the psychiatrists, and they will quickly detrermine whether he is faking it or not.

  79. Denise  January 9, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Regarding the subject of mind control – do any of you recall the crucifiction of poor old James Watson, after a brief and rueful remark about “African intelligence”? He was the head of Cold Springs Harbor Institute. He was promptly booted from same, after his “outrageous and hurtful” remark. (Of course – the Offended never mention the Achievement Gap, or Black on White crime rates….that’s whole ‘nother story…)

    Watson was replaced by one Bruce Stillman:

    Please review the faculty of Cold Springs Harbor:

    If you have a moment – please review a lot of the fields of research.


  80. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:56 am

    (Z-FREE TEA)



  81. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:47 am

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2010
    “If they’re going to keep people from building Mosques, then it’s time to fight the construction of synagogues!”
    THURSDAY, AUGUST 19, 2010
    Mike’s on live tonight and he’s talking at first about theoretical jewery. He invites an exciting caller as well to talk about misconception of british rule and their power. Mike also talks briefly about Christopher Bolynn.
    MONDAY, AUGUST 16, 2010
    Mike discusses his opinion on how he is not an anti-semite.
    THURSDAY, AUGUST 12, 2010
    Mike is live tonight and he’s talking in detail about the Kennedy Assassination.
    FRIDAY, AUGUST 6, 2010
    Mike delivers his response to the aggression Islam is receiving under falsified circumstances.
    Guest: Carolyn Yeager

    What exactly went on during the “Holocaust”, well to put it simply not nearly as much as you’ve been told has happened over the years. Here, with proof, is none other than Mike’s friend and frequent network guest, Carolyn Yeager.


  82. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Which is inclusive for ..all.. who want it,

  83. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Which is inclusive for ..all.. who want it,

  84. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:07 am


  85. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:05 am


  86. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:03 am

    referenced as (Z-FREE) Political Party

  87. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 10:01 am


  88. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Never mind the Dec 21 2012 noise!!
    there are plenty of other problems

  89. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Fox News fairly zionistic

    Born To Be Lied To – 911 The Musical

    Pearl Harbour – FKN Newz


  90. Smith  January 9, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Crack down on alternative media is coming. One thing is sure, this is an attempt to ridicule the people who do not believe the official stories from 9/11 to financial frauds committed. Brace yourselves to be branded from now on. Few days back BBC had make an elaborate “documentary” to discredit the 9/11 truthers. Now this. Tomorrow who knows.

  91. Ken Rechtstein  January 9, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Jared is a very common Jewish name… As a matter of fact, strange that nobody at the scene drew a gun and shot the aggressor.

    Mind control or not, it seems to me that this new tragedy is the expression of a sick society producing weird citizens by truck loads, due to many factors and Hollywood is one the contributors to it.

    Of course, this sad incident will be used Lieberman-McCain and the likes to tighten the screw on citizens constitutional rights and introduce bills for more restriction of civil liberties.

  92. Ken Rechtstein  January 9, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Elisabeth, nothing strange in calling a gun a 9mm, 38, 40 or 45. Glock is the name of the Austrian company that designed and produces the gun and 9mm is the caliber of the bullet it is chambered for.

  93. Greg Bacon  January 9, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Although this is a tragic incident, I’m baffled by Arizona residents saying they’re shocked and surprised by these murders.

    These are the same ones that keep reelecting the certifiable John McCain to the US Senate, who gleefully sang “Bomb, bomb bomb, Bomb, bomb Iran.”

    So why the surprise when these deadly chickens come home to roost?

  94. Zahir Ebrahim | Project  January 9, 2011 at 7:43 am

    A friend of mine sent me this link:

    The Intel Hub

    So called experts on multiple networks are now saying that the shooter believed in a coming world currency. Is this crazed shooter going to be used to demonize the alternative media as a whole?

    It is also clear that this is going to change the way congress interacts with citizens forever. This may actually be the end of town halls and community events as we know it.

    Multiple news outlets have also reported that police are either looking for or have arrested a second man. Other outlets seem to either be ignoring these reports or attempting to silence them.

    The shooter has claimed that he acted alone yet we have local newspapers reporting that a second man has been arrested. A doctor who was on the scene of the shooting also reported that he saw a second man quickly leave the scene after the shooting.

    To top it off, FBI Director Robert Mueller has been dispatched to the scene. Many believe that Mueller has worked tirelessly to cover up government operations in the past and would be just the man to cover up a shooting of this magnitude.


    In all, six people died and 12 were wounded in the shooting, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, according to Rick Kastigar, bureau chief for the Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

    A federal judge was killed and a congresswoman gravely wounded Saturday in a shooting outside of a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store, according to police and government officials.

    President Barack Obama later said Chief Judge John Roll of the U.S. District Court for Arizona was among the dead.

    A 9-year-old girl also died in the attack, according to authorities. The child, whose identity had not been released, was pronounced dead at a hospital.

    A spokesman for the Democratic Party is also attempting to shift the blame on gun rights.

    Other officials are saying that the TONE in which we talk about political matters is the reason why this shooting happened. We have multiple people in the hospital, possibly dead, yet people are ALREADY turning this into a political event.

    Alex Thomas – Right on Que the media is blaming this shooting on the “political tone” of certain politicians and activists. Essentially media pundits are pushing the idea that free speech is not without dire consequences. This may be used to further restrict free speech and target activists as terrorists. Obviously this was a horrible tragedy but one lunatic should not be used to restrict all Americans fundamental right of free speech.

    – ### –

  95. whatscookingwithbrotherman  January 9, 2011 at 7:30 am

    delusional schizo thoughts sir? seek help before it is too late.

  96. whatscookingwithbrotherman  January 9, 2011 at 7:28 am

    A very honest and astute observation Sir. I hope much success to your project, and peace in that part of the world. Americans need to examine themselves. One child on our soil today… 1000’s of children on yours tomorrow. tragedy all around.

  97. whatscookingwithbrotherman  January 9, 2011 at 7:23 am

    I don’t know what they are talking about when it comes to the music being the most horrific. I thought it was recorded well and suited the imagery. too bad he gave up what could of been a career for craziness. He was prime for the military. I see little difference in the body count of civilians left behind. War is just as psychopathic and insane, especially our current atrocities.

  98. jeronimo  January 9, 2011 at 4:39 am

    I hear an echo,

    the controllers are turning everything loose, we’re about to be flooded

    Defy do not comply

  99. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 3:12 am

    Lawrence A Dickerson ,
    you have to admit the Israeli child-molesting Talmud Rabbis are quite a fringe giggle.

  100. Penumbra  January 9, 2011 at 2:57 am

    I’m not sure anyone other than the young girl was truly “innocent”, Dale.

    This whole event seems too well timed to take the spotlight off Israel/AIPAC crimes (and recent actions against their increasing “delegitimization”), the commencement of the “new” Congress’ legislative roll-out, and of course the exposure of “Operation Wikileaks” for the psy-op it was.

  101. AgreeToDisagree  January 9, 2011 at 2:55 am

    This shooter and other mass shootings, are Neuro-Tech Black Ops events to terrify so that the 2nd Amendment can be removed..

    General Warning To World Citizens On Free Will Ending Neuro-Tech Technology

    While the infrastructure appears not much different, the technological levels have reached unbelievable levels, and thus the government needs to be HONEST alongside any with supposedly privileged knowledge that they would keep secret to control and suppress free enterprise and ultimately freedom of society and supress equality in man or to suppress those deemed too superior genetically and socially.

    “” There must be accountability and preventive laws as well as counter measures and Technology expositions made to the public as well as apprehension of criminals currently using such technologies to profiteer off ailments or attempts to destroy reputataion and subvert society as well. Make Malaysia a ‘Free Neutral Nation’ or you will find asylum seekers from all corners of the world suffering with no legal recourse from Human Rights Abuses by Psychotonics “”

    Hopefully the handful of free souls left or those who managed to corroborate evidence and experience as I did will be able to create new and protective laws via landmark cases as I now work upon to ensure the freedom of society and freedom of mankind.

    Anwar and Saiful, Rais Yaatim, Prince Saud Abdulaziz Bin Nasir Al Saud, the Catholic Priests overcome with lust for children, I strongly believe that due to your strong religious and family upbringing and even some of us due to our station, political beliefs and political alignments, or threat of presenting too powerful a social or psychological, even psychic competition, or even intelligence, or even failed relationships with people having access to such devices – have been groomed into rape, murder, LGBT or even simulated mental illness specifically to weaken our voice. Let us seek justice and reclaim our reputations.

    (See even Iran has bio-implants already)

  102. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 2:24 am

    Lawrence A Dickerson,
    there was a tragedy today as you can see,
    the unstable personality types are (IDF/ADL)
    PERHAPS SOME OF YOU’RE Associates ,
    so go ahead and fill us in on what did you know and when did you know it,

  103. RICK DIMBATH  January 9, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Dale R. Suiter,
    I agree

  104. Texas Vet  January 9, 2011 at 1:49 am

    Thank you, Zahir.


  105. Gordon Duff  January 9, 2011 at 1:14 am

    and…Fox News is still telling people that this guy is a veteran. We are supposed to laugh when we hear MKUltra.
    I am not laughing.

  106. Penumbra  January 9, 2011 at 12:57 am


    I must say that thought crossed my mind when I did some checking on Ms. Giffords and saw that she was not only “Jewish” but a firm and loyal cohort of AIPAC.

    Nothing spells orchestrated sensationalist event for Pro-Zionist propaganda like an AIPAC stooge being placed in harm’s way.

    Just watch the “anti-Semitism” angle being increasingly spun across the networks in the days and weeks to come.

    Methinks this is also timed perfectly to draw attention away from escalating Israeli demolitions in the East Jerusalem and the AIPAC spying scandal of recent past months (as well as a raft of other likely nefarious aims of the new Congress nearing the boil).

    Anyone got a bead on what Goldman Sachs is up to lately?

  107. rubytrig  January 9, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Coupon shopping should be serious business to? more people in this economy, new thing is collective buying check for the website “Printapons”

  108. Dale R. Suiter  January 9, 2011 at 12:43 am

    I agree Gordon. This is all very, very wrong. We as a people can never give in to hate and violence. Disagreement, agruement, passionate speech, O.K. Inflicting tradegy on innocent people does nothing but cause horror and pain. The recent crimes in Arizona will be recorded as one of America’s most tragic and senseless criminal acts.

    My thoughts and sympathy to those who suffer from this recent tradegy.

    Dale R. Suiter

  109. Virg  January 9, 2011 at 12:26 am

    I’m not so sure this wasn’t a set up – via mind control – to give another excuse for gun control. I just feel sorry for the victims who got caught in the cross-fire.

    Some of the statements by politicians are ludicrous – especially those coming from John McCain.

    We should all be watching to see when they’ll use this unfortunate incident to further their gun control program. Then we’ll know and understand why ‘they’ did it.

  110. Miriam  January 9, 2011 at 12:17 am

    2 things….and they are connected….the shooter, had he been brown, bearded might have been killed today…but for some reason……he was not shot. He/his name was protected most all of today… interesting that in that place Arizona…..he was protected arrested and taken away….at a time when police retaliation…with so much carnage in that parking lot…so much death…..Then there is the question about how he came to that end….was he a stooge…was he put up to it….egged on…trained encouraged…? a dead Federal judge, along with 5 other dead victims and Rep gifford…Now that the news about her choosing to be jewish is out (Haaretz and JTA this evening) you have to wonder if this is going to be the justification Congress will use to silence verbal/written criticism of zionists/Israel etc as they have done (somewhat) in Europe. things perceived as being “anti semitic” are ‘crimes’ there. Buh bye free speech…whats left of it, that is…

  111. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 8, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    There are two other alternative possible explanations that I can see. Firstly that the vid was actually created by his mind control programmers to disguise the real reason for the hit(s). Secondly that Jared is actually a psychopath and was setting up his legal defense (insanity) in advance.

  112. George Nicholson  January 8, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Yes. It’s called “Paranoid schizophrenia”. The “medical slang” uses terms such as “loose connection of thoughts”, “disorganised thinking”, “formed delusional ideas” to describe what we are seeing here. What we can’t hear, however, are the voices that tell him to commit certain acts”. Good call, Bruce!

  113. Peter Wakefield Sault  January 8, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    If YouTube had been around in 1980, I wonder how different Mark Chapman’s home vids would have been.

  114. Gordon Duff  January 8, 2011 at 8:58 pm


    This is the academically accepted term and does not have the religious connotation that you think. Thank you for bringing this issue up.


  115. hareli  January 8, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    BCE to describe BC years is only used by non-Christians.

  116. Elizabeth  January 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    It seems to be a series of codes …the fact he is “22” it also appears they have two different guns listed the first report said it was a Glock and now they say 9mm
    I feel real bad for the mother of the 9 year old girl…and all the others.

    I feel like there is a serious explosion of even stranger stuff arriiving anytime.

  117. Ron Paul 2012  January 8, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Remember to look for the girl in the polka dot dress….

  118. Zahir Ebrahim | Project  January 8, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    I second VT editors in offering my humble sympathies, first as a Muslim bearing the full brunt of synthetic terror followed by imperial terror, and more importantly as a human being, to the innocent victims of this domestic terrorism.

    I haven’t put that phrase, domestic terrorism in quotes, because, like 9/11 was a real terror act to create believeable pretext for launching “imperial mobilization”, I fear that this act of terrorism is yet another link in that chain for launching the next phase in police-state.

    Gun confiscation is on the horizon, as is labeling all those seeking/arguing monetary reform, mentioning currency, etc., as ‘domestic terrorists’, just as those mentioning the constitution have already been branded ‘domestic terrorists’.

    Every statement reported in this event and attributed to the terrorist, real and imagined, is potentially indicative of enactment of new draconian policies of the state because, please understand the real political science which is driving this all: “World government could only be kept in being by force.”!

    Again, genuine condolences to the families. Muslims suffer these condolences from Pakistan to Palestine on a daily basis. Every drone attack sees tens dead. Every missle launch sees hundreds. I understand the grief of the survivors and families – for only the dead have seen the end of suffering. It is perhaps, sadly speaking, what unites the peoples of the world today in a common bond of friendship against a common vile enemy.

    Zahir Ebrahim

  119. Gordon Duff  January 8, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    duh, double duh

    this is all very very very wrong

  120. J. Bruce Campbell  January 8, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Whoever wrote this is/was a victim of mind-control. The writer appears to be protesting the only way he/she knows how.

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