Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag (confirmed!)

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik

says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

Paul Joseph Watson
Wednesday, May 4, 2011

“Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s”

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

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88 Responses to "Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag (confirmed!)"

  1. Leila  May 15, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Too bad that this info came out on the Alex Jones show. I’m Afghan-American and frankly I wish I could share this but the fact that the man was wiling to go on Alex Jones’ show is proof that he probably has an axe to grind. Alex Jones is a sick man and has been nothing more than a muddy’er’ of waters and self-interested lunatic who denies truths just to get his own way….the example of a person who gives Americans a bad name.

  2. Nightmare on Rockefeller Street  May 15, 2011 at 8:06 am

    All of the events that have taken place since 9/11 are the pieces that are designed to complete the puzzle which is the end goal that has already been revealed by big mouth Rockefeller to Aaron Russo before 9/11 happened: “The supranatural sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is certainly preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in the past centuries.”– David Rockefeller. And so the rule over unquestioning people, incapable of independent thought is paramount.

  3. Snoopy  May 13, 2011 at 3:47 am

    Had to share this somewhere, might as well be here:

    “Full Fathom Five Bin Laden Lies”
    by Kevin Barrett

    “Full fathom five Bin Laden lies”
    (According to our leaders’ lies?)
    They shot him – unarmed – in the head,
    Hoping to silence what he’d said
    So clearly: He deplored
    The Zionist strikes on New York
    And Washington. And so his dead
    Body to the fishes fed,
    Osama’s spirit breathes, expands
    And sparks jihad in every land
    Still occupied by the kuffar –
    Striking enemies near and far:
    Bush is shot down, Cheney gutted
    Silverstein with stab wounds bloodied,
    Rockefellers drawn and quartered,
    Rothschilds crushed by gold they hoarded,
    Netanyahu’s wicked head
    Squashed flat beneath bulldozer treads
    While Dov Zakheim is slowly flayed
    Wolfowitz made to taste the blade
    And Rumsfeld parses known unknowns
    As bullets pulverize his bones,
    Millions of angry mobs arise,
    Chanting: Death to all who spread the lies:
    That was Perle shot through both eyes.
    And history suffers a sea-change
    Into something rich & strange.

  4. mark  May 13, 2011 at 1:31 am

    You mean the poorly done fakes? What do his claims have to do with Obama’s race? Lets cut the ad homenin attacks. Remember the WH went from saying they were watching in real time & OBL was firing a gun and had his wife as a human shield to they weren’t watching in real time AT ALL, he never had a gun, and his wife wasn’t a human shield. All the alleged leaks have turned out to be laughable fakes. Umm what sane person WOULDN’T want a thorough investigation, especially since the CIA chief got a cozy promotion to Defense Sec. a week before they hand over the boogey man (OBL) on an invisible silver platter. Just saying what makes common sense.

  5. mark  May 13, 2011 at 1:25 am

    If he had announced OBL’s death that December their would not have ever been an Iraq war, let alone a continuation of the Afghan war into his second term. His poll numbers were tanking in his second term…why would that even matter, let alone be so important as to kill of THEE boogeyman? Even if he announced OBL was dead after his second term that still might not have ensured a Mccain win given Katrina and Bush’s destruction of the economy (not to mention the huge public distrust of bush would have led to extreme public scrutiny of his claims, especially after the Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch fiascos.).

    Regardless Obama is now faithfully carrying out the neocons military agenda, so again why prematurely announce it under Bush when not doing so would ensure the Middle East wars continue after his term? The real question is in what way is this event going to be exploited RIGHT now.

    Also its ridiculous to say you trust a story based on the word of a hand-picked military unit the government claims carried out some mythical event. They will faithfully perform or parrot whatever is ordered by their commanding officers, and especially the commander in chief.

  6. mark  May 13, 2011 at 1:11 am

    He meant “already dead” as in terminal diagnosis. The CIA chief apparently personally visited him (OBL) in July (around the same time plans for the Afghanistan war were drawn up) in a hospital in Dubia.

    July is also when that infamous CIA briefing to Bush occurred, where they clearly said Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike ‘in the coming weeks’. The intelligence briefing went on to say: ‘The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.'” Ask yourself how they could say this to the President as their chief goes oversees to personally confirm his (OBL) imminent death. Clearly they were indicating plans were going forward, and confirming the patsy (who would soon be dead and thus a totally controllable boogeyman).

  7. jack h.  May 12, 2011 at 4:02 am

    the whole theory is just utter rightwing garbage.whoever believes this rant has nothing better to do.please stick to the aliens annual visits to every elected president.come on now,bush would have loved to have bin ladens just took a real president to make the decision,and those on the right are speechless.

  8. Louise  May 11, 2011 at 2:15 am

    That’s ok Bill.

    America does not have a plan to balance its budget, let alone pay off its deficit. This tells you that it is the end of the road for the US dollar and the US.

    There are a couple of things that could save us all;

    1) Egypt, Iran, Iraq and Turkey form a partnership and play hardball with Israel, making it clear that it is not allowed to start wars with anyone. No more land grabs, no more building of settlements.

    2) The Rafah border will be open for trade soon, which will strenghten the Palestinians. Hamas and the other Palestinian group have formed an alliance.

    3) China finds a way to get everyone to do trade without using the US dollar except when trading with the US, that way Israel only destroys America, but not the rest of the world.

    4) We find the ‘missing nukes’ – are they in Libya?

    5) The 5 plus 1 realises that Iran is not building nuclear weapons and decides to drop all of the trade restrictions on Iran.

  9. ARRGGGHHHH!!!!!  May 9, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    You can always determine the differences between a legitimate information website, and the ones that create controversy for collecting information and names for the “Terrorist Database”. And that’s when information affects National Security, and this should be obvious. Some web and media sites are shut down, while others get a free pass, and that’s the indicator. Another indicator is when political party moles are present and working the site; they will determine whether or not people are party members. Because they don’t want party members placed into this database, that’s simply bad politics. The objective today tends to be the destruction of the opposing parties, and reason I belong to neither.

    If you were performing this activity, you would be entrapping people through propaganda to collect information to have their names submitted into this database. This can be accomplished through psychological operations, targeting, and entrapment. It’s simply big business today.

    And if you don’t know, you should, that all the people being placed into this database will be slowly but eventually murdered. Today that’s accomplished electronically, but this objective will be accomplished.

    So the question is, “Can you live with this”?

    Because if you can, that’s fine, but you should understand these people will be murdered. There isn’t anymore to say, this can be accomplished in many ways, but the person will be tagged to be eliminated. And I’m not talking about some foreign terrorist database, but the US citizen terrorist database.

    And this can amount to hundreds and thousands of people, and then you have to ask yourself, why?

    Or believe it’s not occurring, because you can see it.

  10. xyz  May 9, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Osama Bin Laden Buried At Sea (VIDEO)

  11. Texas Vet  May 8, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Hey, Infidel, I saw that also — twice, only on so-called live television. I thought it was a bit weird, and haven’t seen it since.

  12. Munkle  May 8, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    It doesn’t matter that he appeared on Alex Jones. It wouldn’t matter if he was interviewed Cheech and Chong. Piezcenik is a real source and his credentials check out.


    Radio interview on May 3, 2011 this section at 8 minutes 20 seconds here:

    TRANSCRIPT: “The event of 911 was carried out for one purpose…to mobilize the American public to go to a war that they didn’t need that they knew nothing about where we had pre-positioned soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq 6 to 9 months beforehand, …it was based on Paul Wolfowitz’s, Dick Cheney’s, Bush junior, Steve Hadley, Elliot Abrams, in the White House, Khalazid, Dennis Ross who is still an envoy…Condoleeza Rice, all the people who were in the military particularly the Air Force generals who were involved, they can deny it any way they want I have a whole list of names, they all know who they are, and the intel and CIA operatives who worked under SOLECs, Special Operations for Low Intensity Conflict were all involved…it was called a stand-down and false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under the false pretense that we had been attacked by Al Qaeda and bin Laden which is an absolute unmitigated lie. I was even told by a general on the staff of Wolfowitz, I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who that name was so we can break this open…The issue of Osama bin Laden who had died…really brought out the issue of the great war and the great lie that was created for us to make sure we had some kind of commitment to a war that was not necessary in which so much blood and guts were shed for unnecessary reasons.”


    UK Guardian on recent book on killing of Aldo Moro:

    “An American envoy has claimed that he played a critical role in the fate of Aldo Moro, the former Italian prime minister who was murdered by terrorists in 1978. who as, an international crisis manager and hostage negotiator in the State Department, said that Moro had been “sacrificed” for the “stability” of Italy.”

    He is also quoted in New York Times here:

    Member listing at Council on Foreign Relations:

    Citations at National Military Intelligence Association:

    ABC Television News Archive, 1986 segment on terrorism featuring Pieczenik as expert source:


  13. Anonymous  May 8, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Dead Men Don’t Lie said:

    “The American government is leading the country towards hell. … We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests not the interests of the Jews.

    If the present injustice continues with the wave of national consciousness, it will inevitably move the battle to American soil, just as Ramzi Yousef and others have done. This is my message to the American people. I urge them to find a serious administration that acts in their interest and does not attack people and violate their honor and pilfer their wealth.” – bin Laden 1998 John Miller interview

    OBL came out days after the attacks on NYC and said he and his rebels had nothing to do with 9/11. He died in December 2001 of renal failure as reported in multiple daily papers in Pakistan.

    Imagine if the world had listened to OBL in 1998.

    America, sweet America, your sons and daughters are dying for zionist Rothschild and his counterfeiting IMF cronies.


  14. Snoopy  May 8, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Correction to the Ronin reference, it was de Nero of course, not Pachino.

    Yes Peter H. I agree this Dr. Pieczenik may very well be a CIA plant in the “infowar”, but his references to Israeli penetration and influence within the US govt are pretty bold statements and not something you’ll likely hear from someone ‘on the payroll’

  15. beijingyank  May 8, 2011 at 7:17 am

    Vietnam veterans know all too well about false flags. They murdered 60,000 of our generation and no one has ever been held to account.

    The question has been raised about this OBL, AKA Tim Osman extra judicial murder…where is the dialysis machine OBL/Tim Osman had to have to live so long? It’s been alleged there wasn’t a dialysis machine in the Osman house that just happened to have CIA neighbors in the posh neighborhood.

    I get feeling I know what Barry’s photo shop boys are doing.

  16. satya  May 8, 2011 at 4:37 am

    You mean worse than CNNABXFOXMSNBCBS ?

    Best to treat all sources as suspect until hard data materializes – oh look, it already has…

  17. OS  May 8, 2011 at 2:15 am

    You can always determine the differences between a legitimate information website, and the ones that create controversy for collecting information and names for the “Terrorist Database”. And that’s when information affects National Security, and this should be obvious. Some web and media sites are shut down, while others get a free pass, and that’s the indicator. Another indicator is when political party moles are present and working the site; they will determine whether or not people are party members. Because they don’t want party members placed into this database, that’s simply bad politics. The objective today tends to be the destruction of the opposing parties, and reason I belong to neither.

    If you were performing this activity, you would be entrapping people through propaganda to collect information to have their names submitted into this database. This can be accomplished through psychological operations, targeting, and entrapment. It’s simply big business today.

    And if you don’t know, you should, that all the people being placed into this database will be slowly but eventually murdered. Today that’s accomplished electronically, but this objective will be accomplished.

    So the question is, “Can you live with this”?

    Because if you can, that’s fine, but you should understand these people will be murdered. There isn’t anymore to say, this can be accomplished in many ways, but the person will be tagged to be eliminated. And I’m not talking about some foreign terrorist database, but the US citizen terrorist database.

    And this can amount to hundreds and thousands of people, and then you have to ask yourself, why?

    Or believe it’s not occurring, because you can see it.

  18. OS  May 7, 2011 at 9:03 pm


  19. Howard T. Lewis III  May 7, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    One group.
    1) Hitler’s American banker and gold stasher.
    2)Dropped A-bomb on Japan.
    3)Placed Fukushima reactors at worst possible location knowing the next major tsunami would melt-down plant and cause huge fall-out cloud.
    4)Placed nukes in basement of WTC I,II,&7 with AEC & U.S.S.R. oversight.
    5)Oversight and coordination of 9-11-2001.
    6)Intentionally caused Maconda oil well blow-out and corexit-blue plague out-of-control flesh eating bacteria.
    7)Running U.S. into insurmountable debt.
    8) Set us up with Chucky meets Talking Tina and The Village People administration.

    Anybody out there getting tired of this crap?

  20. DC  May 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    I’ve noticed his wikipedia page shrinking by the day since he was first on Alex Jones

  21. plumbob  May 7, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Little Bear,
    The “killing of Osama bin Laden” was a staged event and not meant to serve as a ticket out of Afghanistan. The event was designed to serve the purpose of setting the stage for the next major false flag operation which will most likely occur within the next 6 months. Oncde again, a gullible American public will refuse to question the next false flag attack, and will once again sign off on another expansion of the fake “war on terror”.

  22. foo  May 7, 2011 at 3:46 am

    “…the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.”

    The bombing began on October 7, and the invasion by ground troops began on October 19. Depending on how one defines invasion, one might say that the invasion began October 7.

    The earliest date that I’ve encountered for Osama’s death was December 13. “The middle of December” seems to be the consensus.

    Even if one takes October 19 as the start of the invasion, that means that, according to Pieczenik, Osama died no later than October 18, and the planners knew it. Has anyone encountered such an early date?

    Never mind that the invasion was planned at least as early as July, and that it was going to happen in the fall. (Had to get the opium poppy seeds planted before the ground froze.) Even if the planners had known that Osama was already dead at the time of the invasion, it would have gone ahead anyway.

    What I’m getting at is that I see a disconnect in Pieczenik’s story.

  23. peter h  May 7, 2011 at 2:47 am

    The same for this guy – he worked with Kissinger!Just feel that there are a whole lot of plausable people out there who want to lead you up the mountain and push you off at the top.Each to his own.

  24. THREW HIMSELF AWAY  May 7, 2011 at 1:29 am

    and now we all know what Dominick Suter is doing back in Jersey… (RE JOHN WHEELER’S MURDER)

  25. THREW HIMSELF AWAY  May 7, 2011 at 1:25 am

    about two months ago I told people that John Wheeler III’rd was about to spill some beans about 9/11.

    I think I was right.

    but then, he threw himself away…….what a sad end……

    for America, for sure.

  26. Paul  May 6, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Agreed. If it came from Alex Jones its already suspect. Bad source.

  27. Snoopy  May 6, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    OBL began his career toting AKs via funding provided by US intelligence agencies and their contractors

    connect all the OBL-CIA dots from 1979 through 9/11/01 and beyond

    recall the line from Ronin as Pachino’s character desperately urges the IRA lass to drive away,

    “I never left”

  28. peter h  May 6, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Check here

  29. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 6, 2011 at 12:48 pm

  30. peter h  May 6, 2011 at 10:45 am

    With the exception of the fake videos, nothing has been heard of OBL since 2001. It’s a reasonable assumption, that most of us have made, that that was the year he died. I just wouldn’t want to follow someone too closely, who also says that OBL worked for Mossad.

  31. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 6, 2011 at 10:44 am

  32. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 6, 2011 at 10:07 am
    May 1, 2011 at 2:24 am

    Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt – July, 2006 (Exempting Music, Speech, Video and Literary Quotes)

    Hello. This is ALAN WATT and I’d like to talk a little bit about the secret societies which have become a fad, this whole topic, this “conspiracy theory” which is pushed out there by the top to make it almost like a sideline hobby, which discredits the truth because history is in fact full of one conspiracy after another done by one or other groups all down through the ages.

    Oliver Stone shows you in the movie JFK the group that killed the President and it’s when they meet in the park by the Washington Memorial and when they ask, “who could have had the power to do all of this,” and it pans back and the two men become minute dots on a little park bench, and from the top to the bottom of the screen on the right-hand side you see the whole monument, the symbol, the obelisk of the real secret society above all the little freemasonic institutions, the outer portico at the bottom. The real boys. The real boys that are the establishment you see. That’s who killed him.

    This will be followed by a speech given by JFK at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York on April 27, 1961. He gave this speech to the National News Publishers Association. It lasts about 19 minutes or so, this audio clip which will be played, and in the speech you’ll hear JFK talk about the need to have no secret societies in government because he was well aware that that’s what you have. You’ve always had it. They’re still here today and that speech was the one that sealed his fate. That was the real reason – the REAL REASON THAT HE WAS KILLED PUBLICLY. Publicly executed with “craftiness,” as the High Masons say. It was done craftily, out in the open, as he drove into the sun and his head was laid bare.

  33. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 6, 2011 at 10:02 am
    The Zionist-Created
    Scofield ‘Bible’
    The Source Of The Problem In The Mideast – Part 2
    Why Judeo-Christians Support War
    By C. E. Carlson 12-11-4
    The scheme was to alter the Christian view of Zionism by creating and promoting a pro-Zionist subculture within Christianity. Scofield’s role was to re-write the King James Version of the Bible by inserting Zionist-friendly notes in the margins, between verses and chapters, and on the bottoms of the pages. The Oxford University Press used Scofield, a pastor by then, as the Editor, probably because it needed such as man for a front. The revised bible was called the Scofield Reference Bible, and with limitless advertising and promotion, it became a best-selling “bible” in America and has remained so for 90 years.

    The Scofield Reference Bible was not to be just another translation, subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the King James Version. It was designed to create a subculture around a new worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed, well-funded authors of World Zionism.

    The Scofield Reference Bible and its several clones is all but worshiped in the ranks of celebrity Christians, beginning with the first media icon, evangelist Billy Graham. Of particular importance to the Zionist penetration of American Christian churches has been the fast growth of national bible study organizations, such as Bible Study Fellowship and Precept Ministries. These draw millions of students from not only evangelical fundamentalist churches, but also from Catholic and mainline Protestant churches and non-church contacts. These invariably teach forms of “dispensationalism,” which draw their theory, to various degrees, from the notes in the Oxford Bible.

    Among more traditional churches that encourage, and in some cases recommend, the use of the Scofield Reference Bible is the huge Southern Baptist Convention of America, whose capture is World Zionism’s crowning achievement. Our report on Southern Baptist Zionism, entitled “The Cause of the Conflict: Fixing Blame.

    Scofield, whose work is largely believed to be the product of Darby and others, wisely chose not to change the text of the King James Edition. Instead, he added hundreds of easy-to-read footnotes at the bottom of about half of the pages, and as the Old English grammar of the KJE becomes increasingly difficult for progressive generations of readers, students become increasingly dependent on the modern language footnotes.

    Scofield’s notes weave parts of the Old and New Testaments together
    as though all were written at the same time by the same people.
    This is a favorite device of modern dispensationalists
    who essentially weigh all scripture against
    the unspoken and preposterous theory
    that the older it is,
    the more authoritative.
    In many cases the Oxford references prove to be puzzling rabbit trails leading nowhere, simply diversions.
    Scofield’s borrowed ideas were later popularized under the labels and definitions that have evolved into common usage today–”pre-millennialism,” “dispensationalism,” “Judeo-Christianity,” and most recently the highly political movement openly called “Christian Zionism.”

    It is no exaggeration to say that the 1967 Oxford 4th Edition deifies–makes a God of–the State of Israel, a state that did not even exist when Scofield wrote the original footnotes in 1908.

    It is significant that Oxford, not Scofield, owned the book, and that after Scofield’s death, Oxford accelerated changes to it. Since the death of its original author and namesake, The Scofield Reference Bible has gone through several editions. Massive pro-Zionist notes were added to the 1967 edition, and some of Scofield’s most significant notes from the original editions were removed where they apparently failed to further Zionist aims fast enough. Yet this edition retains the title, “The New Scofield Reference Bible, Holy Bible, Editor C.I. Scofield.”

    The most convincing evidence of the unseen Zionist hand that wrote the Scofield notes to the venerable King James Bible is the content of the notes themselves, for only Zionists could have written them. These notes are the subject of this paper.

    Oxford edited the former 1945 Edition of SRB in 1967,
    at the time of the Six Day War
    when Israel occupied Palestine.
    The new footnotes
    to the King James Bible
    presumptuously granted the rights to the Palestinians’ land
    to the State of Israel
    and specifically denied the Arab Palestinians
    any such rights at all.
    One of the most brazen and outrageous of these NEWLY INSERTED footnotes states:

    “FOR A NATION TO COMMIT THE SIN OF ANTI-SEMITISM BRINGS INEVITABLE JUDGMENT.” (page 19-20, footnote (3) to Genesis 12:3.) (our emphasis added)

    This statement sounds like something from Ariel Sharon, or the Chief Rabbi in Tel Aviv, or Theodore Herzl, the founder of Modern Zionism. But these exact words are found between the covers of the 1967 Edition of the Oxford Bible that is followed by millions of American churchgoers and students and is used by their leaders as a source for their preaching and teaching.

    There is no word for “anti-Semitism” in the New Testament, nor is it found among the Ten Commandments. “Sin,” this writer was taught, is a personal concept. It is something done by individuals in conflict with God’s words, not by “nations.” Even Sodom did not sin–its people did. The word “judgment” in the Bible always refers to God’s action. In the Christian New Testament, Jesus promises both judgment and salvation for believing individuals, not for “nations.”

    There was also no “State of Israel” when Scofield wrote his original notes in his concocted Scofield Reference Bible in 1908. All references to Israel as a state were added AFTER 1947, when Israel was granted statehood by edict of the United Nations. The Oxford University Press simply rewrote its version of the Christian Bible in 1967 to make antipathy toward the “State of Israel” a “sin.” Israel is made a god to be worshiped, not merely a “state.” David Ben-Gurion could not have written it better. Perhaps he did write it!

  34. Notaveteran  May 6, 2011 at 9:51 am

    How much more authoritative can it get than a Council on Foreign Relations member? He is not just some random schizophrenic blowing off steam at the bus station; quite the opposite, he is a Harvard and MIT trained State Dept psychiatrist and intelligence man.

    Seems to me that by allowing Jesse Ventura to speak on FOX, ABC and CNN, there is sort of a power strugggle going on. One faction wants the truth outed, the other faction wants business ‘as usual.’

    I wonder which of Wolfowitz’s generals it was. Maybe he’ll go down in history as a participant in America’s version of the Kreisau Circle.

  35. kisakhani  May 6, 2011 at 6:43 am

    The Neocons have produced an Epic for the gullible american public. Who would dive
    in the middle of Arabian Sea to recover Ahab from Nemo’s cabin? Pakistan had to be
    cut to size after the Raymond Davis affair.So furious was WhiteHouse with Pakistan
    that Obama decided to end the Osama Bin Laden Bogeyman saga by making Pakistan the
    fall guy.

  36. Snoopy  May 5, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Yes, he provided the inside info for Tom Clancy.

    At least Dr. Pieczenik didn’t offer up fiction to the American people on the evening news like the usual cast of military brass and political consultants.

  37. Snoopy  May 5, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Rush and O’Reilly, and don’t leave out Rachel and Arianna. I’ve found its more important to not pay attention to their left-right arguments but what they agree on, and more importantly, what they avoid discussing altogether.

  38. Snoopy  May 5, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    “Okay then, please explain to me and countless others about all of the videos
    that were aired over the past 9+ years ? Was that a Bin Laden body double ? I
    think this piss ant (or however his name is spelled) is looking, once again,
    for publicity. Anything to discredit Obama. All of you racists (I am white)
    are bigots, liars and just pulling things out of your ass. GET REAL !
    Semper Fi”

    Reminds me why I didn’t reenlist. During the reenlistment physical my head didn’t fit in the jar…

  39. Nelson_2008  May 5, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the videos were fakes; just like Obama himself is a fake, and just like the whole “U.S. government” is a fake.

    I’ll bet you even believe, for example, that Pat Tillman’s death was an “accident” and that “fire” brought down the WTC buildings, right?

  40. peter h  May 5, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Is this the same Dr Steve Pieczenic who writes political thrillers?

  41. spktruth200  May 5, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Blair is more worried about a trek to the ICC than anything else. Even Bush, Cheney, Rummy et al cant travel out of the US to any country other than Israel..the only place they can be safe. So these neo cons are on the run…its only a matter of time until they are arrested just like Pinochet.

  42. spktruth200  May 5, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    The zionists were flying f16’s over Iraq last week, and then denied they were doing it. Practicing for an attack on Iran. Then today the zionist Baruk (former prime minister) denied they were going to attack Iran. Its all a shell game with the zionists! While the world is fixated on something else is when Israel does his brutal deeds against the Palestinans. The fact that Hamas and Fatah have now signed a mutual agreement is seen as a horrible threat by Israel. Israel has never wanted peace and used Fatah like a violin, while calling the only democratically elected group Hamas, terrorists. And, the zionists have filed a $5 million dollar law suit against President Carter because of the title of his book….these bastards arent going to give up. AIPAC has 300 US congress members in their pockets. The State Dept. under Hillary is filled with the rats. We have no shot at change unless the arab worlds uprising throw off all their puppets and dictators who supported Israel, and the american people vote every zionist AIPACER out of the Congres…..or start calling them what they are…treasonsts. Putting Israel first over your own country is the pure defination of treason.

  43. spktruth200  May 5, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I am with you! If this guy had any information it would be his consitutional duty to report it. Why didnt he. Yet he goes on Alex Jones Show (Mr. Conspiracy Theory) and tells this crap. If he has the evidence or the truth let him come forward with his intell officers and tell it to a grand jury, otherwise shut the hell up. Just another republican opportunist who has now being used as tool on this vets group…unbelievable.

  44. spktruth200  May 5, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    You know what I dont trust this republican either! If he knew these things why didnt Bush go after Bin Laden when HIS ratings were falling through the floor. l) Pakastani times had an obit in Dec. 2004 Osama died. 2) Madame Bhutto (a pakastani reported on David Frost she knew who “killed” him. 3) Do you actually believe the Navy Seals would have been in on a hoax. Come on now. What we do know is, pakistan has been lying their asses off and collecting billions from american taxpayers. If they had exposed the fact Bin Laden was dead, their money would stop. Also, it could have been a hoax in 2004 that he died to cover his tracks and stop US from looking for him. Also, we have been told that Osama had kidney disease and needed dialysis every other day…how does kidney disease differ from “marfan disease”. I dont buy any of this bullshit from any party, and the real truth is WE will never know the truth. I trust the Seals, I dont trust governments any of them.

  45. usmcviet  May 5, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Okay then, please explain to me and countless others about all of the videos
    that were aired over the past 9+ years ? Was that a Bin Laden body double ? I
    think this piss ant (or however his name is spelled) is looking, once again,
    for publicity. Anything to discredit Obama. All of you racists (I am white)
    are bigots, liars and just pulling things out of your ass. GET REAL !
    Semper Fi

  46. RJ  May 5, 2011 at 10:23 am

    It was interesting to hear Dr. Piecczenic. I just think Alex Jones is there to lead the truth movement, but ultimately take it nowhere. Also, I found it strange that Dr. P thinks Bush Sr. is a master at foreign relations, when he is most likely the ring leader of all of this.

  47. Rex Stihl  May 5, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Some of the best comments I have seen here on VT of late. Sherwood Ross needs to show and and remind everyone that they are anti-semitic.

    Pardon if someone else has already posted this as I can’t open the links related to JFK posted here. My server us under zio-censor monitoring.

    “President and the Press” Speech (April 27, 1961)

    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence—on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.”

    When someone calls me a conspiracy nut I ask them what they know about conspiracies that JFK did not.

    “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed
    Get it while you can.

  48. Bill  May 5, 2011 at 6:51 am

    Sorry, Louise..

  49. Bill  May 5, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Unfortunately Nelson’s probably right on this one..”can’t afford”? We couldn’t afford to go to war in the first 3 countries..You see Brian you’re part of the “reality based” community..Oh, but these people are way beyond you…they’ll act and simply remake reality..yeah, pride goeth before..

  50. Bill  May 5, 2011 at 6:47 am

    Dead people don’t need doubles..

  51. Bill  May 5, 2011 at 6:43 am

    The sheeple won’t “learn” anything absent a true overseas military debacle and a dollar collapse…Most of these people simply don’t have an ear for truth and they listen to ( Rush, o’Reilly, etc ) what makes them feel good, like 4 year-olds at bedtime.

  52. Nelson_2008  May 5, 2011 at 6:08 am

    Well here’s the other perspective:

    The Jew Masterminds of 9/11 cannot stop now. They have embarked on a course for complete world domination or bust. In their view, either the U.S. runs the world and Jews run the U.S., or the world as we know it ends.

    It’s now or never for them. That’s the situation we’re in.

    Thus they don’t care about the dollar or the economy or anything else. It’s all irrelevant to them as they must either push on relentlessly or sink.

    But they know that their political whores and various stooges and masses of self-deceived sheeple have some interest in the economy. Thus in order to push on with their agenda, they need something like a new 9/11 false-flag terror attack. They need something more horrific than 9/11. They need something that’ll make the sheeple say “screw the economy”, let’s go get Iran, Pakistan or [put your favorite enemy du jour here]. This is what worries me.

    I hope I’m wrong, but the “people” we’re dealing with here are demonically inspired, bloodthirsty, criminally insane monsters. It’s impossible to understate the evil we’re facing here.

  53. Bill  May 5, 2011 at 4:09 am

    Good call!

  54. Jon Jon  May 4, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Nelson you are a sensible guy …..what is wrong with Americans is not unlike what is wrong with most population masses …….they have become fragmented because of, social engineering..therefore no “collective bargaining” or “collective leverage”…so Nelson what ever fools they may be …. they are not fools totaly of their own doing …and you must concider this while also concidering that …yes it is time that more Americans as should the rest of the planet peoples…awaken to what has allways been so blatant….so Nelson it is not time for you to cut and run on your very country…hmmm not to mention fellow human country folks….that if you do desert now will only end up needing the very help and assistance for decent living, that the American Shield has always provided….might what to think againon that one …..The American peoples are the only people that can save the world right now…by calling on and demanding of their present government administrators to immediately “STAND DOWN” from their respective positions to be replaced with persons who will implement and deliver the “Will of the People” three hundre million Americans …..can surely muster a fifteen million persons march (that is just 5 percent of population) ……to insure smooth transition……

  55. Louise  May 4, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Aussie newspapers are saying our special troops were involved in Osama’s death – I mean how many people did it take to kill one guy?

    The lies are so obvious, but any investigation would reveal the whole truth, which could be embarrassing.

  56. Louise  May 4, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Apparently top US economist are all telling the government that it has to being down the deficit or the US will go over the cliff. Interesting that the Federal Reserve is supposed to have over 8000 tonnes of gold according to Wiki

    The price of oil is making the US economy stagnate and it cannot afford another war, so Osama ‘death’ should be signalling that the wars in the Middle East are over.

    I watched Tony Blair (the war criminal) talk about Osama’s death and he seemed very eager to point out that there is still Al Qaeda to deal with (in other words we still have a reason for war). I wonder what his kickback is.

  57. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Israel’s General Staff:
    `A Bunch of Dr. Strangeloves’

  58. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    This article appears in the February 21, 2003 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
    Behind the Iraq Dossier Hoax:
    Intelligence Was Cooked in Israel
    by Jeffrey Steinberg
    According to media accounts, the 10 Downing Street “dossier,” cited favorably by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell in his disastrous Feb. 5 report to the United Nations Security Council, was plagiarized from an American graduate school paper, based on information more than a decade old. The scandal that erupted when the Blair dossier hoax hit the press, seriously undermined the credibility of those war party advocates of an immediate Anglo-American invasion of Iraq. As Lyndon LaRouche wrote, Powell was set up by a gang of public relations flacks who can’t think straight.

    So far so good. But a deeper probe into the scandal reveals that there was good reason that the spin-meisters at the Coalition Information Center—the Washington-London civilian government propaganda unit that crafted both the Blair dossier and major portions of Secretary Powell’s own lighter-than-air book of evidence—did not reveal the sources of their information. The entire cooked intelligence picture was “Made in Israel.” It was cooked up at a right-wing think-tank complex notorious as a hotbed of radical Likudnik propaganda, and with links to the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney, via his Chief of Staff Lewis Libby and his former client, Marc Rich.

    The essential facts are as follows: Two days before Powell’s UN appearance, 10 Downing Street issued a 16-page paper, “Iraq: Its Infrastructure of Concealment, Deception, and Intimidation,” purportedly based on high-level British intelligence data. In fact, at least 11 of the 16 pages were lifted, verbatim, from an Israeli journal, Middle East Review of International Affairs, whose sole proprieter is Dr. Barry Rubin, an American-born Israeli citizen. The 11 pages were drawn from two articles, by Ibrahim al-Marashi and Robert Rabil, that appeared in the September 2002 edition of that journal.

  59. PAUL LEO FASO  May 4, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Every American who is ready to roll, needs to hear the entire interview to grasp the peril we face as a free nation.

    I commend both Dr.Steve R. Pieczenic and Alex Jones for their efforts to bring the truth to the people. The entire interview can be seen in the link below.
    While it is close to 2 hours in length, the information is forthright and convincing due to the previous interview both had with each other in 2002, reconfirming much of the deception they speak about today.

    No American should miss this for its’ clarity and perspective.

  60. Vincent Nunes  May 4, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    So far, I am not convinced that he didn’t die nine years ago. The story keeps changing.

  61. Steve  May 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Whatever one’s feelings about Alex Jones are, Dr. Pieczenic is a “must listen” He will be on the show Thursday and Friday this week as well. An interesting point that came out today was that Bin Laden’s financing came largely from the Jewish diamond trade..hmmm.

  62. Brian  May 4, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Questions About the Obama Osama Drama
    By Yasmeen Ali

    Some excerpts:

    There are no bullet holes, or marks of bullets ricocheting off the walls, and there’s no sign of damaged glass from the good-sized windows on one wall. The bed sheets on the two charpoys are so neat as to do a hotel maid proud. There’s just over 250 ml of blood on the floor between the two charpoys. It looks to me as though, rather than a fire fight, Osama & Co. were simply sitting ducks for a hunting party! Wait, that’s not all. The glass in the window is see-through. How odd! Anyone could have looked in and seen the world’s most wanted man once night fell, and remember, it’s an open area.

    The downed helicopter, miraculously, disgorged its crew like magic. Presto! All unharmed by the crash! Yet oddly, the three neighbors of Osama who rushed to the scene to help, and who would have been witnesses to what actually happened, all have gone missing and never returned home.

    Brian: If they shot anybody it was an impostor. Osama had doubles. The Mossad also has Osama doubles.

  63. Brian  May 4, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Regarding 911, get the strong evidence from a free download:

    Christopher Bollyn is an exceptional 911 investigator.

  64. Brian  May 4, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Well, I wish he would have mentioned the Israelis. 911 was a Mossad operation and yes they had help from traitors in our government. Some of the traitors are Jewish Zionists. They did 911 to initiate a war against the Muslims for the benefit of Israel. Oh my, the Dancing Israelis.

    I do have to wonder if the non-Jewish Zionist traitors were told the twin towers were going to be destroyed. My guess is they’re were only told about the Pentagon attack. After all, an attack on the Pentagon would have been sufficient to justify invading Afghanistan due to the nonsense that Osama did 911.

    The non-Jewish Zionist traitors may have refused to participate in a false flag that included the death of a few thousand Americans and a severe blow to the economy.

  65. Gary Walker  May 4, 2011 at 12:35 pm


    I was looking at the pics of “Osama’s compound” on mailonline. There was a picture of a Pakistani police officer patroling the area. His back to the camera, his shirt said POLICE in English. Do Pakistani police have police in English on their uniforms? Just curious.


  66. Doug  May 4, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Mr. Pieczenik’s testimony would be invaluable. I heard him speak on the radio and I was ‘blown away.’ He is very credible and the kind of American who could bring this whole ‘dog and pony show’ to an end! I agree he needs to get this information out and reveal all he can. Let us not ‘destroy the messenger’ as we so often do in the blogosphere! This man can bring down the ‘ship of fools’ if we can get a grand jury convened! The fact that Alex Jones has interviewed him and so many others that have revealed the treachery of this government is commendable. Not many have the guts to expose the tyranny that has infested our country and rule of law. Best Wishes for Peace and Justice! Doug

  67. RJ  May 4, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Obama just told 60 min. that he has decided not to release the OBL photos. When it was pointed out to them that the first fake photo had been floating around the internet since 12/08/10, they decided not risk another one. This gets more ridiculous by the minute.

  68. wolf  May 4, 2011 at 11:27 am

    “Even if they PROVED 9/11 was an inside job…I still wouldn’t believe it. Pass me the Cheetos. Have you seen the remote?”

    -Boobus Americanus

  69. Greg Bacon  May 4, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Pieczenik should give out this info before he has an accident.

    Or the same dirty SOB’s who were behind the 9/11 FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB nuke an American city and blame it on PO’d jihadists.

  70. Mandrake  May 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Perhaps the idea is that he can’t be sued for libel in respect of evidence given to a court in sworn testimony. Given that April Gallop’s case failed on the face of it because the court refused to consider the evidence, Pieczenik (which, btw, looks to me suspiciously like ‘peacenik’) would not be able to defend a libel action for the same reason. By naming the general he would be accusing the general of being at the very least an accessory to treason for having failed to come forward of his own volition. Instead, by not naming the general, Pieczenik is making himself an accessory to treason by protecting the someone else who is quite likely protecting the actual traitors by his silence.

  71. Garibaldi  May 4, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Before Mr. Peacenik testifies, somebody should pass him a finger bowl so he can wash those dirty hands he’s been sitting on for ten years.

  72. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 11:04 am


  73. Nelson_2008  May 4, 2011 at 10:58 am

    What I want to know is, WTF is wrong with all the “people” in this country?

    The “U.S. government” has not provided one whit of information linking OBL to 9/11; on the contrary, however, there is plenty of information implicating Jewish traitors and other “insiders”.

    So 9/11 happens, the U.S. government demands that the Taliban hand over OBL – AND THEY AGREE (despite the fact that he’s a national hero in Afghanistan and despite the fact that they have no extradition treaty with the U.S. government) – with one reasonable condition: that the U.S. show some evidence of his guilt. Not too unreasonable, no?

    So what happens next? Well, rather than show some evidence, Bush attacks Afghanistan, and then Iraq, killing God knows how many innocent people, destroying two countries, squandering literally trillions of dollars of the worlds wealth (God forbid we waste China’s money on medical research, or any other foolish things in pursuit of a better world)…only to apparently end up, ten years later, killing some hapless dude (and everybody around him) that just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time? And of course, lying about the whole sordid affair.

    And here we are, after “our” “government” kills us, kills untold numbers of innocent foreigners, lies to us, takes all our rights away, ruins our economy and our currency, and sets in motion what is obviously a relentless drive for WW3…and then what?

    And then these assholes are out in front of the White House and at “Ground Zero” waving flags around at 1 o’clock in the morning celebrating?

    For all the proof that’s (not) been provided, our Masters could’ve said some ugly green monster with three heads did 9/11, but we finally caught up with the alien monster in a house in Pakistan, we killed it, and we dumped it at sea, trust us…and these credulous assholes would eat it all up and demand more.

    I think I’ve reached my limit…I find all these flag-waving, USA…USA…USA chanting blowhards more than I can bear.

    I think it’s time to follow in Ken O’keefe’s footsteps and get the hell out of this God forsaken place before this ship of fools goes down in flames.

  74. Johnny Punish  May 4, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Come on folks! NO Bin Laden, NO War on Terror!

    Keep BIN LADEN alive in the minds of Americans and they can and did run the Terror Wars. They got away with it. They won!

    Now, they want out? OK, time to play the “He’s dead” card and move on to the next game. Geez us people….get with the program! You’re falling way behind people!

  75. AS  May 4, 2011 at 10:51 am

    The Air Force Chief of Staff on 9/11 was General John Jumper, who had become the top Air Force commander on September 6, 2001, just five days before the 9/11 attacks. You have the name

    inside job… includes dual citizens the ones you know with dual loyalties… in fact zionist one

  76. AS  May 4, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Cass sunstein might be at work but the fact that Jones says this…and is going towards this conclusion is not not good for Cass sunstein… but this is real info… to me as I had the same information form Arabic and Muslims sources which I’ve put in 2002 on the french cyber space… got thousands of insults but don’t care !

  77. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Beyond the Bin Laden Stunt; The Dire Implications of This Latest Surreal Ploy

  78. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Lies, Damn Lies And Bin Laden’s Death

  79. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Oh, What A Tangled Web We Weave

  80. REMEMBER..J.F.K...FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  May 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

  81. RJ  May 4, 2011 at 10:12 am

    That would be great, but I’ll believe when I see it. Doesn’t Alex Jones think the white house is controlled by shape shifting aliens? You have to be suspect of anything on his show.

  82. kelli  May 4, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Why wait for a grand jury? He should tell everyone the name of this general before he is suicided. Or the general for that matter.

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