Was Raymond Davis CIA’s Bin Laden Handler?




By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor


“.. to blackmail Pakistan into appointing a new intelligence chief willing to ‘take orders’ from Washington.”


 Sources tell us that the “lifelines” that kept what has been identified as Osama bin Laden safe inside Pakistan were operated under the supervision of CIA operative Raymond Davis.  There were two safehouses in Abbottabad, one for “bin Laden,” the other for the CIA.  We are told that this explains why there was no Al Qaeda security detail.  The CIA was in charge of that.

Davis, arrested in Lahore earlier in the year, faced trial for murder until released because of cash payments made to the families of the victims.  Davis led a super-secret CIA team thought initially by Pakistan to be coordinating Taliban and Indian terror networks.  It is now reported that he was the handler for “the man from Abbottabad,” the man America claims was Osama bin Laden.

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Reports indicate that Osama bin Laden wasn’t captured for a good reason.  The individual identified as Osama bin Laden was a replacement used in video and audio terror threats that have failed analysis and been debunked as counterfeit.



Documents identified by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds and former Undersecretary of State Steve Pieczenik, a physician, clearly identify bin Laden as associated with the CIA long after he was identified as the leader of the shadowy Al Qaeda network.  Pieczenik also confirms that bin Laden was fatally ill long ago.  Multiple confirmations in Pakistan and the US have bin Laden dying in 2001, not long after he issued a categorical denial of complicity in 9/11.



Not long after bin Laden’s reported death, several “clones” appeared including one matching the appearance of the “bin Laden” who appears in videos captured in Abbottabad.  It is not certain whether this “bin Laden” or a subsequent clone was the individual who may have been killed in the recent US operation.


One thing for sure, it was not the long dead CIA financier, Osama bin Laden.

Sources report that the recent “bin Laden” operation was in retaliation for Pakistan’s arrest of bin Laden handler, Raymond Davis.  Other reasons with limited or unreliable confirmations claim the US wishes to blackmail Pakistan into appointing a new intelligence chief willing to “take orders” from Washington.

Reliable reports from within the US intelligence community state that a major factor in the timing of the recent operation was tied to the “musical chairs” in Washington with Leon Panetta leaving the CIA to take over as Secretary of Defense upon the retirement of Robert Gates and the General Petraeus’ move to take over the CIA.

The killing of “bin Laden,” real or a “clone” under Panetta’s watch would prevent General Petraeus from becoming “unmanageable” were he able to make the same claim.  Petraeus is cited for having presidential aspirations and the CIA directorship has been a stepping stone to the White House before as seen with George H.W. Bush.


The Navy Seal operation attributed to the assassination of Osama bin Laden as reported to the world is a hollow fiction.  We are not here to discuss the legal merits, the questions of who or why but rather how.

There were two main areas of concern with the initial cover story of the killing of Osama bin Laden.  The first, of course, were the contradictions, guns, then no guns,shooting then no shooting and the lack of evidence of this being an assault on a “high value” terrorist target.  DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) assaults on “wrong houses,” something too common in the United States, assaults that often accidentally target innocent senior citizens or homes with small children, leave more convincing evidence than the attack on what Colin Powell has called “the worst person on earth.

The second issue is the confirmations received of what was reported all along.  Osama bin Laden had been dead for a decade.  Confirmations received from the highest sources in the US intelligence community confirm that Osama bin Laden’s body was recovered by Special Forces operating in Afghanistan in December 2001.  His body was frozen and kept in storage for a date when it would be of advantage to the United States to use it for maximum advantage.

Another reason for the decision to “thaw and assassinate” was to deliver a knockout punch to Republican presidential contenders, in particular Donald Trump, already reeling from the “birth certificate” fiasco.

As this information directly contradicts all of the varied stories released by the White House thus far, one could safely assume that no information offered, not that through official channels, a mishmash of contradiction and absurdity nor that offered here, reeking of conspiracy and sinister intent, can safely be relied upon.

In fact, there is no competent analysis of any kind in the mainstream press and, though much of the work in the alternative media may ring of truth or seem more logical, it also has an aspect of conjecture to it with some exceptions.  There is a wealth of authoritative opinion regarding the death of bin Laden in 2001, two Pakistani prime ministers, Bhutto and Musharraf, their top intelligence officer at the time, General Hamid Gul, currently editor at Veterans Today, and a wealth of senior US officials.  These issues may be followed in the media and a reader may choose which “reality” to accept.  There is no sadder state of affairs than for such uncertainty to exist involving key areas of national security.


An operation as reported, one planned and executed by the Joint Special Operations Command, the organization tasked with carrying out extrajudicial executive actions such as this one makes use of all the resources the United States has at its disposal.  We will discuss some of those resources and how they would have been tasked in an effort such as the one described.

Most intelligence operations begin with some sort of intercept, a phone call or computer email.  There are more acronyms than you can shake a stick at tied to intelligence.  Acronyms serve one purpose, to attempt to mislead and astound while either making excuses for failures or inventing nonexistent successes, all the while spending taxpayer funds like a drunken sailor in a cathouse. SIGINT or COMINT or COMPINT or ELINT or IMAGINT, it’s all baloney, smoke and mirrors.

Funniest of all is HUMINT.  This means “human intelligence” or “some guy told me….”

The Abbottabad operation would have begun with an intercept of a recognized and attributed voice print, a form of biometics or an email that said a bit too much.  It could have been HUMINT, someone saw something or, as is usually the case, saddly, it is more likely IMAGINARINT, or imaginary intelligence.  This is information that people simply invent.  Most intelligence is IMAGINARINT.

A ten year manhunt for a deadman who has been in a freezer in Bahrain, an arch-criminal used as a catchall boogeyman needs alot of IMAGINARINT and the JSOC, Dick Cheney’s “red-headed stepchild,” is the type of organization for just such an occasion.  They are at their best when stopping imaginary attacks or tracking imaginary terror cells.  In order to provide HUMINT to back up their IMAGINARINT, they kidnap and torture the odd cook or cab driver, sometimes for years on end, until they are able to force their victims to agree with anything they say.

Then the victim is put on trial, convicted and imprisoned for life as a reward.


The US has advanced optical satellites which can be tasked for surveillance but the most effective “first look” at the compound in Abbottabad would have been through ultra-high resolution synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imagery.  This would have seen through the buildings and beneath, locating any tunnels which might have been built for egress.  It also would have identified vehicles, room layouts, weapons caches and even the location of furniture.


The next step would have been to place “eyes on the ground,” in this case, teams of CIA private contractors who would maintain 24 hour a day surveillance of the compound.  Commonly, they would have equipment to monitor or, if need be, jam communications within a square kilometre.  They would be able to intercept text messages and decrypt any wifi communication.  They would have become the defacto gateway, the service provider for any communication.  All phone, text, or computer communication would have passed through them and even been altered in the process.

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Satellite telephones are quite vulnerable also.

The standard kit, which includes the two large “briefcase” modules would also be supplemented with a variety of other “tricks.”


The site would be under constant thermography scanning.  Through the walls, personnel, electrical systems, generators and cooking devices would be quickly located.  Patterns of movement would be established.


Anyone leaving the compound would be “tagged” using specialized chemical agents or nano-electronics.  This could be done passively through door handles or by seeding the dust on the stairs.  More likely, however, “innocent passersby” would aid in this process.  Within days, every person in the compound would be either actively or passively “tagged” along with anyone outside the compound that came in contact with them.  Eventually, everyone with personal contact would be identified and subject to a cascade of surveillance, signals – phone, computer, etc, and more.


Decades ago, laser systems were developed that were could produce modulations, such as voice, by focusing on reflective surfaces.  The range of these is endless but window film was developed to defeat this technology.  Now, microelectronics allow undetectable sensors, even resembling small stones, to be attached or dropped anywhere, including areas with no access at all.  Long long ago, SWAT teams began using microphone/transmitter couplings fired by sling shots using an exclusive hi-tech contact adhesive, tar and axle grease.

You could shoot one onto a window or other surface and, in an instant, you were “bugging” a room.  Current technologies are decades beyond this with nano-technologies being tested and possibly used that simulate insects.


Yes, the insect UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) may exist and may be operational.  Movies have featured such things for many years and tests of small UAV aircraft are a big hit on www.youtube.com.  Commonly used UAVs resemble small


birds.  Recent advances even allow such vehicles to mimic the flight of birds themselves.  Sensor arrays allow high resolution video surveillance and limited thermal capability.  Years ago, units that fit in a backpack were common, deployed with Marines.  Things have gone far beyond this.


The science of biometrics can mean something as simple as palm geometry, voice recognition, retina scan or fingerprint identification.  Facial recognition is used everywhere and huge databases are being developed based on the use of this technology at airports, train stations , border checkpoints and other less obvious areas.  There are more intrusive technologies at use, however.  One of these is called “hyperspatial analysis.”  This is a list of some of the capabilities of such a system currently deployed.

  • Facial recognition. Provides the unique ability to conduct real time analysis of biometric facial features and match those features to a data base of known persons of interest. Once identified, the standard beehive features allows real time tracking of the person or persons within the xxx network.
  • Audio detection. Permits the xxxxxx to identify and provide the exact source and location of selected sounds, such as a weapons discharge or explosion within the xxxxxxxx network. System will provide GPS coordinates and or standard military mapping coordinates.
  • Thermal imaging. Provides state-of-the-art thermal imaging for enhanced detection and anti-terrorism capabilities. This feature is a critical component in the identification of concealed personnel, bio hazards, and heat generating threats such as recently used weapons, some explosive compounds, etc.
  • Air sampling. Provides real time detection of selected hazardous gases. This feature is a critical component for effective chemical or biological threat detection.
  • Radiological detection. Provides real time detection and tracking of sources of radiation within the xxxxxx network. Designed to provide coverage at ranges up to 50 meters.
  • Concealed trace detection. Real time detection and identification of up to 120 different hazardous substances at distances of up to 100 feet, underneath standard clothing items.
  • Long- range trace detection. Real time detection and identification of over 100 different hazardous substances, including explosives, at distances of up to 5 kilometers

A typical clandestine deployment of a hyperspatial array would be on a refrigeration truck, delivering meat or produce.  The unit would be housed in the cooling unit.  Such a unit was undoubtedly used in this operation which would have identified anyone entering or leaving the compound along with the presence of any weapons or explosives.


A typical ploy in such a case is to introduce a biological or chemical agent to the air, water or food.  Within hours, even minutes, individuals would show symptoms of a number of common diseases, fatal if desired but for use of surveillance, requiring medical care entailed by measured application of moderate to severe “discomfort.”

This allows for, not only medical personnel to be questioned but for a general deterioration in awareness and capability as members of the household are incapacitated.  Generally, in such cases, there is a need to “reach out” which, while COMINT protocols are in place, will lead to an expanded list of suspects.

At any point, undetectable chemical incapacitating agents could have been administered in order to gain entry.  The most effective are synthetic opiates that work almost immediately.


All capabilities listed here and many more not discussed were available for use in Abbottabad.  All equipment was not just in theatre but inside Pakistan.

Given the long advanced warning and the importance given to the target, several technologies not listed here were likely to be used as well.  What is clear and what we can easily surmise is that, due to the capabilities outlined and the poor security of the Abbottabad compound, the movements and identity and location of anyone inside would have been known.

If anything can be believed of what we have been told, at best there was very light opposition and a 20 plus man force, highly trained, fully armoured from head to foot could have easily accomplished the capture of their target without, not only using lethal force but without being armed at all.

Considering the training and ability of Navy Seals, a 3 man team might have been 2 too many.

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66 Responses to "Was Raymond Davis CIA’s Bin Laden Handler?"

  1. Phoenix  June 28, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    I talked to OBL over the weekend. He’s going to help dismantle AQ & take a plea bargain to be the next Host on The Price Is Right. We have him behind curtain number two…

  2. assad kamal siddiqui  June 19, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    I do not under stand why people are wasting their time on the contrversial issue of Usama Bin Ladan.The whole issue is an open secret needs no further elaborations/comments/elaborations/analysis etc.

  3. Memo From Massad  June 8, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    The Intra-Operations of Coalition Forces really makes it easier to coordinate Special Operations these days.

    Face it… all you Ethnic Haters need to get your Lives Together & join The Planet ….

    Otherwise, push a kilo of C-4 up all of your asses & set timers for 2 seconds. Cause yall

    Ain’t work more time than that & we know it…

  4. Beowulf  May 29, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    pssssssstttttt…..”What if OBL’s son was buried at sea… And OBL has a new “private” Xbox?!…

  5. Allah  May 29, 2011 at 1:05 am

    I’m a Crusader…. Christian, 1/16 Creek Indian…

    Just so you know.

  6. LoneWolf (Alpha)  May 29, 2011 at 12:26 am

    Sucks being caught Red Handed doesn’t it?!…

    Where’s OBL?..

  7. Soap Box  May 16, 2011 at 11:32 am

    You thought Obama killed Osama?
    It’s just the reverse – Osama, out of his grave, has killed Obama.
    RIP Barry!

  8. Andrew Pelt  May 15, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Im hvaing trouble reading this post, are you sure you set this up right>

  9. AntiSemantic, Hates Double Talk & Duplicity  May 13, 2011 at 4:27 am

    Ken , excellent analysis. The “kiddy chair” chair provided for Obama was no accident. The subliminal message is that he is just along for the ride and his steering wheel isn’t connected to anything. Its surprising so many Black Americans still believe in the fantasy of him being anything special.

    Most Black Americans however are not that stupid and know the truth, and will not bother taking what he says “to the bank”. They do not want all the overdraft fees on the bogus check.

    AntiSemantic, no, I’m a realist not a racist!

  10. kisakhani  May 11, 2011 at 6:31 am

    If this article was read by four Think Tanks Dr Pervez Hoodbouy,Nadeem Paracha,
    Adeel Mahmood and Cyril Almedia of Pakistan they would convince their proteges it
    is a fabrication of conspirators who belong to Al Qaida.When on May 2nd I added my comments to the article in EXPRESS TRIBUNE an English Daily published from Islamabad,It was not published because I wrote this was an Hollywood production to
    create another Cecil de Mills Epic. Whoever got killed had reached his usefullness
    for the neocon’s vested interest.Alive he would have been a pain in the hind when
    placed in the docks before the Court in New York.

  11. mrg  May 10, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Duffy the only reason they took him out is because hes the one behind the wiki leaks !! well if nothing else he new to much and was gonna squeal like a pig! hell maybe he did cheneys wife! thanks for the great spook info.

  12. Gary Walker  May 10, 2011 at 8:37 am


    The Democratic Party could have ended the wars in 2007 when the voters gave them control of congress. They dissed the voters and gave Bush more than he even asked for.

    Peace be upon us,

  13. Brian  May 10, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Excerpts from New Bin Laden Tapes Appear Fake Like Earlier Ones – by Stephen Lendman

    On May 7, Michael Ruppert’s article headlined, “Osama and the Ghosts of September 11: ‘Proof that Obama is Lying,’ ” saying:

    A noted molecular biologist and DNA expert told him the following on condition of anonymity:

    He “built a lucrative career in human genetics. (He ran) one of the world’s largest and most productive DNA genotyping facilities, (and is now) helping to build the global market for clinical whole human genome sequencing for the world’s largest human genome sequencing facility.”

    He also worked with the best in his and other fields, saying:

    “I know DNA. And, one thing I know about DNA is that you cannot, repeat CANNOT: take a tissue sample from a shot-in-the noggin-dead-guy in a north central Pakistan special forces op, extract the DNA, prepare the DNA for assay, test the DNA, curate the raw DNA sequence data, assemble the reads or QC the genotype, compare the tested DNA to a reference, and make a positive identity determination….all in 12 hours – let alone transport the tissue samples all the places they’d need to have gone in order to get this done.”

    “Any way you slice it, the real work would require days,” and no nearby aircraft carrier or other ship is outfitted with a profession lab and experts on board to do it.

    He concluded saying they may or may not have gotten bin Laden, but there’s no DNA proof confirming it before they allegedly dumped him at sea. In other words, they lied, one of many beginning with Obama’s May day announcement.

  14. AntiSematic, Hates Double Talk & Duplicity  May 10, 2011 at 8:05 am

    My sister read a “crazies” (why am I crazy) “self help book” which vindicated me as a right hander. The theme of the book is that all left handed people are actually brain damaged persons. So the word sinistra (spell?), meaning “left” in Latin, the root word for sinister (possibly evil) in modern English defames lefties?

    So possibly the lefties mentioned above are brain damaged, not evil? Does that make anyone feel better?

    What about the George Bushes, Richard Pearl, and Larry Silversteins and all their buddies???? Are they left handed? And are they brain damaged OR evil?


  15. OS  May 10, 2011 at 8:03 am

    There was group one time traveling through the bush, and one person with them somewhat arrogant. However, one day everyone crouched and another hand signaled to him, get down. He turned and replied, “What are you guys doing?”, before he was shot. Do you why? Because he wasn’t alert, didn’t pay attention and listen to anyone, and especially when it was important.

    I guess some people live in an artificial world.

  16. OS  May 10, 2011 at 7:33 am


    I would explain more in detail, but won’t right now. There is larger problem occurring in this country, some details were noted. Information about missions isn’t distributed in this way, or this soon, unless other problems. This is now known, and reason for placing above comment. Just wait, and watch news for security infrastructure is fractured, you understood. I’m tired, and sometimes you can’t write everything.

  17. AntiSematic, Hates Double Talk & Duplicity  May 10, 2011 at 5:50 am

    Yeah, Michael the devil Shirtoff(your back) said on C-SpanTheTruth (a mossad operation), that questioning 911 is equivalent to holocaust denial!!!!!!!!!

    Really? That bad??????? Watch Chertoff on c-span and get a peek into the future (present?) for American Sheeple.

    A creepy troll like him will tell you (and children)what to think and how high to jump!

    The recent clumsy lies and forgeries are probably intentioned to degrade the helpless American Sheeple. WE ARE YOUR MASTERS IS THE MESSAGE!

    Help yourself by turning off TV (Talmud Vision).


  18. Duffster  May 10, 2011 at 5:42 am

    Whenever anyone says “case closed” I think of that stupid book on the JFK murder.

    Same sort of thinking process here.

    With dozens of pieces of evidence out there totally debunking all of this, I am still thinking about the “field DNA test.”

    I do so love the Al Qaeda websites, based on proxy servers in Tel Aviv.

  19. AntiSematic, Hates Double Talk & Duplicity  May 10, 2011 at 5:33 am

    These operations are like doing live TV (Talmud Vision), no opportunity for a lot of retakes.


  20. Nelson_2008  May 10, 2011 at 5:28 am

    “Is there another Theory?”

    In fact there are several theories; and some even seem to be supported by the apparent facts.


    “I’ve always been critical of President Obama, but what if this strategy was the only way to end the wars in the Middle East. I repeat, “The only way”.

    Before you react, think for one moment.”

    Ok, I’ve thought for a moment, and there’s no need to speculate, as it’s quite clear that Obama has no intention of doing anything sensible. He’s a puppet warmonger as bad (or worse) than Bush. If anything, he’s ESCALATING.


    “There are those who make great wealth from wars, and the continuance of war. There are those who have strategic desires in the Middle East that don’t represent the needs of the American people. Some of these leaders abroad can create problems, and this reflected back to the leadership in the United States. I can list more….but this environment can have so many obstacles to overcome that war becomes a tool for abuse. Because all internal objectives, can be refocused on the Middle East given newly created situations.”

    There’s no need for mealy-mouthed apologia and beating around the bush, this is VT. It can be explicitly stated: The “West” is run by bloodthirsty Jewish supremacist madmen, and Obama is their willing puppet.


    “What if the only means of strategically ending these wars, and removing these people from their positions of leverage was by “Killing Bin Laden”, whether staged or not. This would remove those abusing their powers from the real battlefield, Washington DC, and removing their leverage gained through the conflicts in the Middle East.”

    And what if the moon is made of green cheese?

    It’s clear that Obama et al. have no intention of ending these senseless wars. Rather, they seem to be pushing for open conflict with Pakistan. And they’re pushing hard. At times it seems they’re asking for WW3.


    “Before you say NO, provide another way or method of ending the wars in the political environment in Washington DC.”

    That’s a silly thing to say. Obama has the power to end the wars. He doesn’t need “excuses” to do it, he merely needs a set of balls. As it is, unfortunately, he’s just another morally bankrupt puppet.


    “And do so, without placing our soldiers at risk.”

    They’re not “our” “soldiers”; they’re Zionist crusaders, every bit as immoral and morally defenseless as their Masters.


    “This doesn’t mean there weren’t any people who abused their power, and corrupt executives who fueled the war for profit.”

    We’re way, way past the “they’re abusing their powers” stage. Our “government” has been completely overthrown; “we” actually have no government.


    “So will the removal of Bin laden, provide the resources and time to investigate others?”

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Osama bin Laden died many years ago. And “investigate”? What do you mean “investigate”? The only thing our Masters actually “investigate” is any kind of opposition to their plans for world rule.


    “Or will some get desperate and try to do things that only expose themselves.”

    What’s to “expose”? They’re practically doing everything right out in the open already. The lies and the deceptions are so sloppy and so amateurish, it’s clear that they’re performing for a captive audience.

  21. Ken Rechtstein  May 9, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    3 key players in this charade: Hillary Clinton (AIPAC-Netanyahu representative within the White House-together with the ‘discrete’ V.P. Joe Biden), Panetta (CIA)and Gen. Petraeus.

    Seems that they dragged Obama into THEIR HOLLYWOOD WAR SHOW ROOM against his will…

    Just look at the PHOTO where Obama (“and his Staff”, we were told), where he was supposed to be watching LIVE the Ops as it was unfolding: “New Episode of Dead-Resuscitated&Shot above the Left Eye Bin Lying Saga”, and you will see who is in charge:

    1) Who is sitting center in the high chair is not the PRESIDENT, it`s the CoC (Chain of Command) representative, flanked by Biden & Hillary Clinton,

    2) ‘President’ Obama is sitting at the periphery (looking tense and somber) on a small chair, somebody put it there for him when they managed to get him dragged into the “Mock War Command Studio”, consuming a fait accompli.

    3) It’s possible that they what they were playing for him was being staged into some Cine-Studio somewhere in the USA or Israel, with a replica of the “Been Lying Compound”.

    4) Folks, the Ops took place little over 01:00 AM Pakistan time. Anything Obama was seeing would be through filmed through NIGHT VISION GEAR not flood lights, i.e. blurred to some extent and thus not making it possible TO IDENTIFY environmental-neighborhood details that would, under normal circumstances, make it possible to assess BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the “killer team” was really near Abottabad or “Been Lying” Compound.

    5) Another unbelievable detail is the tail section of the copter that it seems has been cautiously laid against the wall…making sure not even to damaging one stone of it… We are talking here about a crash that brook a copter in pieces and not even the tail rotor has been damaged, the tip of the tail not even been buried 5 cm in the ground on impact?…Wow!

    6) The neighbors of “Been Lying Ops” must then have been evacuated before the action took place and the soldiers of the Pakistani Military Academy too… Nobody heard the ALIENS’ UFO coming or took to the streets to see what the hell was going on?… Nobody heard the crash of the copter or the RPG grenades that were said were launched against the “Seals”?

    7) To me all this is smoke screens and chicken feed made in Hollywood to deceive AGAIN the American People and divert-derail its attention from the NEED-DEMAND for a new investigation of 9/11 and bringing to justice the REAL CULPRITS. Soon it will be 10 years anniversary of the Zion Talmudic Inspired-planned-directed attack of America on its own soil with the Bush Govt as complicit.

    8) The Joint MOSSAD-CIA-MI6-DSGT destabilization Ops of the Arab countries (ousting the strong men in order to creating the necessary chaos-vacuum that will make it to put in place puppet regimes) is OUT OF CONTROL and BACKFIRING even in Tunisia and Egypt,

    7) In Libya it’s a stale mate no-win situation. Last Saturday more than 300 Libyan tribal chiefs gathered in Tripoli. They issued a joint declaration stating that Gaddafi was Libya’s spiritual leader (Khomeini is Iran’s spiritual leader), that the solution to the conflict with the Benghazi CIA-MI6-DGST backed Rebels is through negotiation not NATO bombs, and that they would not accept foreign interference in Libyan affairs.

    8) Adding to above is the fact that the USA has been bankrupted and involved in self-destructive-suicidal actions by the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons, who sold to Bush the Screen Play of the PNAC, the invasion of Afghanistan-Iran and the concept of Israel as a “Strategic Special Ally”, i.e. FED-AIPAC-WALL STREET-Rothschild/Bank of England/Tel Aviv (and now Sarkozy & Cameron) running the show-hijacking America, soon China and India will join in too, when the Zios decide to move shop over there…

  22. Genie  May 9, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    I was heading towards that conclusion myself…I am glad you said it!

  23. Justin Kennedy  May 9, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    The U.S. government admits it was alerted about bin Laden being in that compound last August. The CIA set up a safe house across the street and monitored the premises for 9 months before calling in a crack Navy Seal unit to storm the building. After crashing a secret stealth helicopter into a compound wall, the Seals took 40 minutes to move their way up to the top floor, shooting two unarmed women, killing one, then shooting bin Laden and his son dead. The soldiers attempted to blow up their disabled helicopter, but left the entire tail section intact which was seized by the Pakistanis. Bin Laden was given a field DNA test which confirmed his identity and his body was flown 2000 km to be buried in the Arabian sea within 12 hours of his demise.

    Al Qaida sent out a news release the next day confirming bin Laden’s death. Case closed.

  24. OS...Knows..TJ Bronco...knows  May 9, 2011 at 11:12 pm


  25. Jim W. Dean  May 9, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Well, I started getting a little surprised when the media greased the skids for the million dollar house deal. It took about two seconds to get a ‘you must be kidding’ with just a look at the place. Maybe there was a gourmet kitchen with did not see with platinum faucets.

    The place was a dump. And as I put in another post, the furniture was more run down than section eight housing here.

  26. hareli  May 9, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    I did a physical experiment. I cut the ear out and lay one one top of the other. The angles are the same. Do it yourself. Or go check out Lois Gibson (Houston Police Dept Forensic artist) and find out how it’s done.

  27. Jim W. Dean  May 9, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Absolutely, I would have burned a roon out with phosphorus and put out a story they had the office rigged to flash burn their critical stuff.

    But blabbering all they did, and so soon, that alone sends you leaning toward their doing an Obamacyle hustle…and this treasure trove of info is B-grade psy ops movie.

  28. ARRGGGHHHH!!!!!  May 9, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    In one man’s judgment, Osama was admired because he alone in the Arab world had the astonishing audacity to stand up and smash a fist into the face of the world’s last superpower, which had become one of the most resented powers in the Middle East. He was applauded because he had struck the most savage blow dealt America since British troops burned the Capitol and White House in 1814.

    Lest we forget, Osama was once an ally of Ronald Reagan’s America. We provided the Stingers, and he provided the money for the Afghan mujahedeen to administer the deathblow to the Soviet Empire.

    Some yet argue that Osama and al-Qaida attacked us because they hate our freedoms. Why, then, did they fight the Russians? Did they hate the freedoms enjoyed by Soviet citizens in Leonid Brezhnev’s time?

    In his 1998 declaration of war, Osama gave three reasons. Americans, he said, had deployed their infidel troops on sacred Saudi soil. Americans were strangling a crushed Iraqi people with murderous sanctions. Americans were enabling Zionists to oppress and rob Palestinian Arabs of their lands.

    Osama plugged his personal war into the anti-American currents running in the region. It was whom he was fighting against, us, not the new caliphate he claimed to be fighting for, a utopian absurdity, that caused scores of millions to admire him, even if many were horrified by his methods.

    It was when al-Qaida took to killing Arabs and Muslims that Osama lost the prestige he once had.

    Osama is dead and gone. But the ideas he tapped into — the desire of Arab peoples to break free, to reclaim their sovereignty, to restore their past greatness, to be rid of the foreigner and his lackeys — are also the motivating ideas of the Arab Spring.

    And as Victor Hugo reminded us, “Greater than the tread of mighty armies is an idea whose time has come.”

    To find out more about Patrick Buchanan, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists

  29. Tea Partier 342  May 9, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    I’m left-handed, j.m., but most t.v. remotes are built for right-handed folks, so I use my right hand for the boober-tube. Still, an astute observation. Hey, Obama and Clinton are left-handed. Maybe that’s one of them?

  30. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    I agree.

  31. OS  May 9, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    I believe, I have already told you this story.

  32. OS  May 9, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Ping pong is a strange game, some investors purchase the finest paddles for both sides, and thereafter place bets on both sides. This way they never lose, they enjoy this game.

  33. Shepple  May 9, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Just a note. We are NOT ALL Shepple.

  34. OS  May 9, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Hope you feel better today. Don’t worry about me, you’ll be around long after.

  35. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi  May 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    not a wild alternative theory at all Brian
    many think this is how Obama is controlled

  36. OS  May 9, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Or maybe the pairs ping pong match to be held in Pakistan, the winner gets the N’s.

    US and India versus Russia and China?

  37. hareli  May 9, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    BTW, I tend to believe Dr. Pieczenk, so the provenance of when the older photo of OBL was taken is the issue with me. Judging from the cement border at the bottom of the wall in the room, it looks like more a government barracks than a residential house. And it’s far from a mansion.

  38. OS  May 9, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Is there another Theory?

    I’ve always been critical of President Obama, but what if this strategy was the only way to end the wars in the Middle East. I repeat, “The only way”.

    Before you react, think for one moment.

    There are those who make great wealth from wars, and the continuance of war. There are those who have strategic desires in the Middle East that don’t represent the needs of the American people. Some of these leaders abroad can create problems, and this reflected back to the leadership in the United States. I can list more….but this environment can have so many obstacles to overcome that war becomes a tool for abuse. Because all internal objectives, can be refocused on the Middle East given newly created situations.

    What if the only means of strategically ending these wars, and removing these people from their positions of leverage was by “Killing Bin Laden”, whether staged or not. This would remove those abusing their powers from the real battlefield, Washington DC, and removing their leverage gained through the conflicts in the Middle East.

    Before you say NO, provide another way or method of ending the wars in the political environment in Washington DC.

    And do so, without placing our soldiers at risk.

    This doesn’t mean there weren’t any people who abused their power, and corrupt executives who fueled the war for profit.

    It’s means their method of drawing attention elsewhere was removed.

    So will the removal of Bin laden, provide the resources and time to investigate others?

    Or will some get desperate and try to do things that only expose themselves.

  39. hareli  May 9, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Who’s to say this picture wasn’t taken at the same time this film of Osama was shot (at 49 seconds in…turn down the sound, this is a joke video about OBL). He was wearing wool caps in both.

  40. hareli  May 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Those ears are identical. Do this yourself.

    Print the image off, and draw lines outlining the bottom third of the ear. Then a line along the middle third…it’s a straight line, almost. Now use a protractor and measure.

    The top third of the ear curves into the front of the ear in a certain way that is the same on both. And the triangular piece, the tragus, appears in the same place in both at the opening of the ear canal. The upper part of the antihelix is straight in both ears.

    Don’t forget that ears and noses grow as you age.

    Most telling is the supraorbital ridge: the bony part that the eyebrow rests on. Identical angles above them in both. You cannot alter this even with surgery.

    What also appears to be identical is the distance from the bottom of the nose to the mouth, something you absolutely cannot fake, not even with surgery. The angle of the eye section to nose is the same.

    The hairlines appear to be the same.

    If you don’t believe any of this, print the image above twice on transparency film and lay on over the other.

    I’d be more likely to question what bin Laden was doing sitting in a room that looked like that. Was it a storage room for old equipment? There’s a black cloth over the window. I didn’t see any black cloth on the inside of any of the windows of the house that I’ve seen so far.

  41. Nelson_2008  May 9, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    It doesn’t matter how ridiculous the fraud gets, the masses of Sheeple will “believe” it regardless. It matters not how sloppy the photoshopped images. It matters not how fantastic and counter-intuitive the tale. The Sheeple have no choice. They simply MUST believe it.

    And if you confront them with a compelling argument and evidence that the “government” is lying, what do they do? They get angry. Very angry. Not at the “government”, of course, but at you, for your heresy.

    You see, now that our bloodthirsty, criminally insane Zionist dictatorship has come this far, i.e., has sunk this low, all those who’ve gone along with it are trapped. To question the Zionist dictatorship now means to question themselves, too. They will not look in the mirror. They musn’t.

    So as “our” “government” waxes worse and worse, with each new atrocity and breathtaking lie more horrific and more absurd than the last, our “patriotic” friends and neighbors must wax ever more fanatical in defense.

    Yep, the nukes will fly before Mr. and Mrs. small-minded, small-town America look in the mirror.

  42. Jon Jon  May 9, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Why yes… yes he did …

  43. Jon Jon  May 9, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Good call g ….really…

  44. OS  May 9, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Take for example water?

    It maybe necessary and needed urgently, and depending, some will drink it right away, while others will not until it’s filtered. This may require various filters of finer materials before people drink the water, or before it appears good. Information can be distributed and processed in a similar manner.

  45. Stanley  May 9, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Well hey, isn’t that why we all gather here together?

  46. OS  May 9, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    In particular is the tagging, easily accomplished….that should be obvious. Also to incapacitate everyone in compound is-simple, food, water, air.

  47. james miller  May 9, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    the man in this video is holding a tv remote in his right hand .on the fbi’s most wanted web site the info says he is left handed. I guess they don’t read there own material.

  48. henry  May 9, 2011 at 6:39 pm


  49. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    We could send the photographs to all the major media and none of them would show the photographs. With the Jewish Zionists running the major media we have no freedom of the press. Oh well.

  50. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    I was talking about the Osama killing with a colleague and it occurred to me this extremely amateur, phony Osama killing just may have been intensionally ridiculous. That’s sounds like a wild alternative theory but just maybe the Mossad and AIPAC put this charade together. Mossad works with the CIA and some say they run the CIA.

    AIPAC forces Obama to do this amateur, obviously phony operation and now they have extremely strong blackmail material. Hey Obama if you don’t bomb Iran or take over Pakistan due to our next false flag in America were going to let the world know you ran a phony operation and killed an impostor. Perhaps a wild alternative theory but when you look at the what happened it’s such a lousy, sham of an operation that I have to wonder if it was intentionally ridiculous.

    The old man they found to impersonate a 54 year old Osama is just one of the absurdities.

  51. Gary Walker  May 9, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Yes, isin’t it a pity. Abbotabad, just a stone’s throw from Costellabad, was where Satan met his faker. It is a bit curious why he had to be killed when he was unarmed. Why didn’t they take him to Gitmo and have Darth Cheney “interview” him? We would then know all there is to know about uncle Al qeduh, and then we could put an end to the terrorist network. Now, all we are left with are known unknowns that we don’t know about, and unknown knowns …

    Peace be upon us,

  52. Hard Bark  May 9, 2011 at 6:03 pm


    Every citizen in the world should demand the truth about Bin Laden and 9/11. It was NOT a group of Muslims that hated our freedom, but Imperialists in the U.S., the Neocons and their allies in Israel and their associates in London, who committed the crimes on 9/11 in their quest for World Dominance. Their crime has been discovered, the TREASON identified. The world MUST DEMAND JUSTICE. The Muslims were “framed” and are owed an apology at a minimum. And if you look at the list of perpetrators, Silverstein, Zackheim, Chertoff, Jews were the majority of evildoers.

    The Neocons did the crime, were found out, and now must pay for their treason. We must make an example of them, and never stop until then.

  53. rachel  May 9, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    totally forgot about davis case. an interesting lead to follow up on.

  54. Tea Partier 17  May 9, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Nice pickup Brian (and sott.com) and Gordon. I bet the MSM runs from this like the plague.

    T.P. 17

  55. OS  May 9, 2011 at 5:49 pm


    Having worked with all, you are correct, D Force operation (specific to this mission type for more then 20 years). However, you also have contractors who specialize in these operation as well, less people to provide intell, smaller organizations, also disposable. However, military personnel are sworn to oath and can be prosecuted if classified information is released. D-Force is made of many experts for all branches of armed forces, however you can’t show their faces on public TV. Part of this work is no identity.

    Gordon, Good article.

    There was POW camp raid in Vietnam many years ago, and US Army paid CIA $50K for precise duplicate model of the camp, this included miniature periscopes to look through the windows of buildings and evaluate before the mission. This was more then 30 years ago. The model was precise inside and outside.

    Your assessment of technology is quite accurate.

  56. Texas Vet  May 9, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Good ear catch Brian, or is that catchear? Ears are indeed as good as a fingerprint for personal identity. In this case, for false identity.


  57. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi  May 9, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    missing B52 nukes of Cheney
    yes, Raymond Davis, yes
    Minot and Barksdale

  58. Dreamlake Cowboy  May 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    on davis, you make alot of sense..and he did not not even try to blend in too the background which only adds greater math to your theory..

  59. AS  May 9, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    interesting… or to prepare for a total destabilization of Pakistan through Afghanistan and Iran

  60. JB1776  May 9, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Assuming any of what they say is true, I would have like to have seen a video showing a recent copy of the USA Today on the guy’s torso. Also, why the hell would you kill him and then brag about the treasure trove of intel you got from the compound? If they had really found this guy, they wouldn’t tell anyone and they would get as much intel out of him as possible.

    Also, I thought Delta Force (not Navy Seals) were normally deployed via Black Hawk helicopters.


  61. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    From the article:

    But the real smoking gun is to be found in the videos allegedly taken from the Pakistan ‘compound’ and which provide higher resolution images of a man who appears to be the same person that appeared in a ‘bin Laden’ video released in 2007.


    Look at the three photographs of the ears. It’s obvious the Osama in the video is not the real Osama.

  62. stevor  May 9, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    For starters, if you look at the “bin Laden/neighbor” picture, the ears don’t match bin Laden’s ears nor does the nose.

    It’s almost funny how so much “material” was found on “bin Laden’s” computer. I have to wonder if this is the “new Wikileak”.

    Since bin Laden was dead long ago, all the rest just makes my eyes roll backward.

  63. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Well done article Gordon.

    The new video of the fake Osama watching another fake Osama on television was hilarious! He looks like an old man and not a sickly middle aged guy. If Osama was alive he would be 54 years of age.

    If the fake Osama in the compound stood up I think he would be about 5’7. The nose and the slope of the forehead are wrong. They only show a side view. It’s the worst fake Osama video I’ve seen.

    A reporter from a nationwide television station noted how the Osama on television looked confused and seeking guidance from somebody off camera. He was looking for his Mossad director.

    The supposed evil terrorist Osama, didn’t bother to reach for a gun until the seals entered his room. Very odd and unbelievable. Noisy helicopters and gun fire and Osama waits until the seals enter his room to reach for a weapon. That’s hilarious!

    Dumping the body in the ocean was absurd.

    I’m curious about the girl the Pakistani authorities found who claims to be Osama’s daughter. She claims the seals took him alive, took him to the first level then killed him in front of the family. Did she really claim to be Osama’s daughter? Are the Pakistani authorities lying? Was she forced to lie?

  64. Brian  May 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Well I don’t know if Israel was involved but even if the rogue nation wasn’t involved in murdering an imposter, unfortuntnatley they now have a great opportunity to do another deranged, evil false flag to blame the Muslims.

    It’s would be easy to get the sheeple to believe nuclear attacks in the US and in Europe was done by angry Al Qaeda people seeking revenge for the murder of their supposed leader. This is a scary situation.

  65. J. Bruce Campbell  May 9, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Without a dead body, the raid was pointless. Photographs are not believable. How do we know there was a dead body to dump in the ocean? The only actual dead bodies were the ones they left there for the locals to clean up. Maybe they dumped the landlord’s body in the ocean. Who the hell knows?

    This wasn’t an operation, it was the Texas Chain-saw Massacre, done by a bunch of hopped up killers who get their kicks from murder. That’s if we believe one iota of this miserable pack of lies.

  66. Truth Seeker  May 9, 2011 at 11:47 am


    Didn’t you and Jeff Gates discuss this at length last year with Mark Glenn Phil Tourney how Pakistan was being set up and the next target by the Master Mythmakers and Sophisticated Story tellers?

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