The Reason for Revolution

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By Bruce Campbell


I’ve been a hard-core revolutionary since 1983, since writing a militia-starting book. Not that there was anything revolutionary about the militia, since that body was originally designed to give support to law enforcement to put down super-lawlessness. And without the old militia, George Washington would not have been able to defeat the English, as he reluctantly admitted. He preferred the march-or-die army over some guys who might split if the fighting didn’t make sense. The way generals tend to spend lives, it usually doesn’t.

The more I learned about the militia the less I liked it. The militia was an enemy of freedom during the Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania as well as Shays’ Rebellion in Massachusetts. Alexander Hamilton instigated the Whiskey Rebellion in typical Federalist fashion by putting a tax on booze, of all things. George Washington and his stinking Federalists exploited Shays’ Rebellion to overthrow the Articles of Confederation and form a federal empire under the Constitution.

I only used the word “militia” because of the abuse of it by judges in the disarmament and imprisonment of American gun owners, thanks to the terrible and contradictory wording of the 2nd Amendment, which has served to confuse and misdirect us since 1791. It has done this by tying gun carrying with membership in a pretty much non-existent militia. By 1903, the “organized militia” was merged with the army under its new name, the National Guard. But that didn’t stop crooked judges from wondering how on earth this revolver could be part of a well-regulated militia? And sending its owner to prison.

In 1918, the Supreme Court said that it was okay to draft militiamen and send them to kill and be killed overseas. I became a revolutionary when I read about that.

What I was really trying to do with the new militia movement was to start a revolution against both the federal government and the private government by tying gun ownership with a hatred of those two forms of control that have robbed us of our freedom, many of our lives, our treasure and almost all of our common sense.

But, in the ‘80s and ‘90s, this was not to be. Americans hadn’t learned sufficiently to hate the official and private governments. The vast majority of Americans couldn’t see the problem, which didn’t get really obvious until the meltdown of 2008, with the financial collapse and the bailout of the billionaires. Then it started getting obvious. Still, no Egyptian moment.

What will it take to get to our Egyptian moment? I think I have the answer.

Now, as this is being written, a couple of nuclear power plants located on the overflowing Missouri River in Nebraska are at risk of going Fukushima. One of these, the Cooper Nuclear Station, is the same as the Fukushima reactor. The Fort Calhoun reactor is a pressurized water type rather than a boiling water type and it has likely already begun to self-destruct from the rising flood waters and fires in the switch gear room.

I’m not saying that we’re going to start hanging our CFR aristocrats over a couple of carcinogenic meltdowns, though it would be sufficient cause. The nuclear power industry was foisted on us by the same folks who dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who exploded hundreds of nukes in the atmosphere and in the ocean for twenty-five years. They conned us into believing that nuclear power was clean and safe and it did seem that way until the equipment started wearing out.

But what we didn’t know was the price paid by the guys who brought the uranium out of the ground, mostly American Indians in the Southwest who didn’t know how deadly the stuff was because the federal government didn’t tell them. The feds didn’t tell them because they wanted to make bombs. Then they wanted to make power. The ends justify the means with these guys. Eventually there was so much depleted uranium waste at the power plants that the feds decided to make bullets and artillery rounds of it, for penetrating power due to its density. The real reason was that there was no other lucrative way to dispose of it.

The effects of depleted uranium dust on humans are so catastrophic that it was the perfect excuse for a revolution against the warlords of Washington.

Still, if nukes make the lights go on and the AC blow cold, that was good enough for Americans, until maybe a couple of months ago. The Germans, the Swiss and the Italians have seen the light and decided to shut down their nuclear reactors. The Japanese, nuked three times in sixty-six years, will probably do the same, if they live that long. But that’s not going to make us into revolutionaries.

There’s something else.

All these people in Europe running around and getting tear-gassed and beat up are doing it because their money’s shot. Their treacherous governments decided to abandon their francs and lira and pesos and marks and drachmas and all go in on a common currency called the Euro, issued by the privately-owned European Central Bank. This company is owned by the same people who own “our” Federal Reserve System.

Just as Alexander Hamilton and the Federalists, in 1787, wanted a central government and a usurious central bank to lend to it at interest, the very same family for which he worked created the central government called the European Union back in 1987 and its companion central bank.

A few years ago I reported that this very same family intended to do the very same thing here, with something called the North American Union, our version of the European Union. The NAU will be the merger of Canada, Mexico and the US and the new currency will be called not the Euro but the Amero.

Now, in Europe, the Euro is collapsing because of the nature of private ownership of the currency and credit of all those former nations which are now just units in the European Union. When a private company is in charge of a country’s money, and is for some reason allowed to create that money out of thin air and lend it and charge interest on it, the country eventually goes broke. The reason for this is the interest paid to the private company, which does not issue enough currency to pay the interest.

That is, if everyone has to pay back more than he borrows, where does the extra come from? Answer: it doesn’t. When everyone has to pay back more than he borrows (interest), the private company must inflate its supply of money, which it is happy to do for a while. Then, when the time is right, the company begins to deflate, to collect the cash and destroy it.

When the new shortage of money hits the people, they cannot repay more than they borrowed and they lose the things they borrowed to buy. The private company “repossesses” the real and private property after putting up nothing in the first place. The loans were make-believe, but the pay-back is real.

So, based on what we see happening in Greece and Ireland and Spain and Iceland and Portugal and spreading to the more prosperous countries with the fraudulent currency called the Euro, we need to avoid this further economic disaster which would be worse than the one in which we already find ourselves.

Back in 2006, the thought of a new currency called the Amero seemed paranoid. Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they ain’t gonna get you. A conspiracy theory stops being a theory when the CFR promotes it.

Foreign Affairs Magazine is the house organ of the Council on Foreign Relations. A plan is devised and presented at a Bilderberg meeting, such as the recent one in St. Moritz. Next, the plan is revealed in the pages of Foreign Affairs Magazine for the enlightened ones to read and follow.

Ben Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, wrote an article in the May/June 2007 issue of Foreign Affairs entitled “The End of National Currency.” In this piece he promoted what would be the Amero.

“National currencies and global markets simply do not mix. In order to globalize safely, countries should abandon monetary nationalism and abolish unwanted currencies.”

And this idea logically followed from another CFR think piece from 2005 by the godfather of the North American Union, Robert Pastor. He calls it “a North American community approach to security!”

So you can plainly see that the North American Union and its companion currency, the Amero, are quite real. The NAU was supposed to have taken over last year but last month it was announced that 2012 will have us without northern or southern borders as we now know them. Mexican and Canadian police and soldiers will be sharing law enforcement duties with our friendly SWAT teams. You know, the homicidal jerks playing at neighborhood soldiers?

This, friends, is a reason for revolution. There is no nice way to put this. As I have written ad nauseum, the American revolution against tyranny must begin with the destruction of this malignant, megalo-maniacal collection of dictators the headquarters of which is at the corner of 68th Street and Park Avenue in Manhattan.

Every disaster, every invasion and occupation, every financial catastrophe known to modern man has originated in this den of iniquity. How have they gotten away with it? Simple: they invited the newspaper and television execs to join the club. David Rockefeller had the gall to thank his friends in the press who never said a word about the meetings they’d attended. He admitted that without their help, the New World Order could not have succeeded.

Does it need to be said that corrupt newsmen will be decorating bridges, trees and lampposts around the country? Those characters had a sacred duty to report what they knew and they deliberately betrayed us. All of what’s coming could have been avoided if the newsmen had told the truth. We could have handled it. Instead, we were fed a pack of lies. And now, everybody gets to pay the price.

At some point, which is coming soon, Americans are going to deal with this treason. Some of us are going to deal with it on back roads and in the cities, against the agents of the North American Union. These agents will of course be in uniform to make them appear official and legitimate. They will be official but they will not be legitimate.

But even right now, our home-grown terrorists are wearing uniforms paid for by us, carrying weapons paid for by us and invading peaceful homes and killing people just like us inside our homes, for no reason. Or in our cars or just walking down the street. These clowns are getting away with murder. This alone is a reason for revolution. It is far worse than the British behavior leading up to Lexington, which was extremely bad. But today is worse. Some of these guys, maybe most of them, derive gratification from inflicting pain and death on us.

So some of us will deal with official intimidation the way Americans are equipped to deal with it. Others of us will deal with the treason described above, both official and private. We will deal with what confronts us, wherever it confronts us.

This is not the militia movement of the 1980s and ‘90s. That idea died at Oklahoma City in 1995. The militia was just a semi-militant state of mind and a big stockpiling of guns and ammo. It was what we might call a good start. The name and the idea should be abandoned since there are so many federal agents masquerading as “militiamen.”

What we are going to do is resist. The tyrants are going to be destroyed. Big tyrants and little tyrants and tyrants in between. They’ve been having their way with us for various reasons. Mind control, diet, poisoned water, drugs, whatever. We haven’t been authorized to take them down.

The most radical thing I did with the militia was to point out that we don’t need authorization to defend ourselves. We have the natural right to defend ourselves and our loved ones and our friends. Once a deadly threat is detected, we have the natural right to defend with deadly force. We don’t care about legal rights anymore, because there are no dependable legal rights. Only the police and the military have legal rights to kill us and decent people everywhere. They use those rights to torture and murder with impunity.

Our authorization is the North American Union, which is an official declaration of war against the American people. Now that we know what is planned for us, that our own government is at war with us as surely as it is at war with Pakistan, we can respond in kind.

Unbeknownst to most Americans, Barack Obama and Canada’s Stephen Harper in February signed a declaration that put in place a new national security arrangement defined not by U.S. national borders, but by a continental view of a “North American perimeter” based on Robert Pastor’s CFR monster called the North American Union.

You realize, of course, this means war. The peaceful solution is to nationalize the Federal Reserve and have the Congress issue debt-free currency, which would kick the North American Union right in the head. But to get there, we’re probably going to have to do it the hard way, which would be Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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16 Responses to "The Reason for Revolution"

  1. min egan  June 19, 2011 at 12:21 am

    Thanks for the reply. I think the propensity of the state for creating public myths can be exposed to the simplest man here. This lie cannot have the longevity
    of the Presidential assassination myths or various casus belli incidents. Technological advance is a commonplace, this side of nuclear exchange, it only goes one way. Without the cover of Shuttle or Space station or of all things Mars!, it must become apparent. Will people still glued firmly to this planet in forty two years time still believe in the miraculous achievements of their great grandfathers?

  2. Hulk  June 18, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    yeah right, tang and teflon. Your a small man. Not because you belittle others, but because you cannot and will not see beyond your own arrogant nose.

  3. J. Bruce Campbell  June 18, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    I admit to being very prejudiced against the space program, but my opinion is that it was the greatest waste of money in history. I agree with Rene that it was probably not possible to survive the radiation, not to mention your point, with which I also agree.

    The Report From Iron Mountain was the slap in the face, however. The little think-tank was tasked with duplicating war powers over the people in peacetime, to allow deliberately wasteful spending (which makes the favored ones extremely rich). The space program was at or near the top of the wasteful spending list.

    We got Tang and Teflon, neither one very good for us. No doubt we got a lot of technology that we also didn’t really need. And we got satellite communications, which are pretty much being used against us.

  4. min egan  June 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    JB you have cast a come eye on false history. I’m off topic, but remember your eulogy for an authentic first Colt and wonder if you now believe that we had the technology in 1969 to do then what we can’t do today? Have you any doubts you would care to share about the Federal Govt Apollo story. You drove dangerous racecars and fired guns at people who could fire back. Would you trust a few batteries to keep you alive walking around in blazing sun on the moon for several days? How long would you trust two truck batteries to keep you cool and oxygenated in an Apollo spacesuit in the Mohave tomorrow?

  5. J. Bruce Campbell  June 18, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Here’s from Louis Marschalko’s The World Conquerors (1958):

    “During the great financial crisis Morgenthau was Secretary to the Treasury. When Roosevelt ordered him to raise the price of gold to $35 per fine ounce, he obeyed with alacrity. And in the evening he made the following entry in his diary:

    ‘Had the public understood how we fixed the price of gold they would have received a considerable shock.’

    Morgenthau suggested that Roosevelt should buy up 100 million ounces of silver above the current price, in order to capture the goodwill of senators representing the ‘silver states’ of the US and thus score Roosevelt’s victory at the next presidential election. Whilst such a use of the taxpayers’ money meant splendid business for the family group of the Morgenthau banking houses and also promoted the presidential re-election of Roosevelt, it brought 450 million Chinese and 350 million Indians into desperate economic plight. In China, as well as in India, silver is the only metal from which coins are minted, and the price of silver due to the above purchases rose higher and higher. After Roosevelt’s silver buying transaction, China could export only by selling her products one-third cheaper than previously, and consequently her population suffered more from starvation than before. At that time whole provinces joined the camp of Mao Tse-tung, the Communist leader.”

    This shows both the arbitrary nature of gold and silver backing of currency as well as the danger of metal itself as the currency.

  6. Ken Rechtstein  June 17, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    The problems of the USA are trifolds:

    1) The Federal Reserve in Zion Talmudic hands and NOT in the hands of the true American People, i.e. the Public Administration or the STATE as such,

    2) The Monopoly of the Media in the hands of the Zion Talmudic Dons,

    3) The AIPAC as a supra constitutional entity ruling Congress-Senate-The White House to the sole benefice of a Foreign Rogue State.

    Any one of the above mentioned particulars is by itself DANGEROUS for ANY DEMOCRACY. When the 3 combines and work together it’s the death sentence for any Nation and its PEOPLE.

    Any change in America must wipe out the above deadly cocktail and the sooner, the better.

  7. J. Croft  June 17, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Great essay, I totally bumped it:

    You have to get Americans to pick up their rifles in the first place. That is something the enemy has been conspiring to prevent for decades-everything from gun control to stripping away the heritage of the millitia and the minuteman via state schools and anti-gun media programming. Urbanization has also denied Americans places to shoot.

    More, Americans are the most domesticated people on Earth. Typically. Your mainstream American still with a job, SUV, McMansion with all the chinajunk packed in it has a simple, childlike mind. It’s how they’re raised by the electronic lobotimizer. You have to attack the few things they hold onto for them to actually want to open their eyes, and do you know what their reaction is? “I went along with the system my whole life and this is what I get!”

    Look for your revolutionaries among your disenfranchised, disowned, forgotten.

  8. Dan  June 17, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Leif, I offered a condensed economic argument based upon political or special interest control over the supply of money, its relation to economic output and inflation, as well as stating a gold or other standard putting constraints on the arbitrary creation of currency by that entity is the only way of preventing it from expropriating wages, savings, and investments–and you answer dismissively with reference to an obscure book. To call those favoring a gold standard “uninformed” is laughably ignorant on your part. You see, Leif, it isn’t that greedy speculators have driven the price of gold up five-fold in less than a dozen years, but that an irresponsible Congress abetted by the Fed has debased the dollar to that degree. With the dollar tied to gold, there would be no possibility of waging these wars since the money to wage them would have to be largely collected through direct taxes and selling gold (whether for immediate delivery or future delivery when the notes came due). When money grows on trees, Leif, the tree dies. If money is not convertible into gold or silver, for example, what’s to stop the government from expropriating half your wages and savings? It’s coming to that, and a lot faster than you seem to appreciate. The silver in one silver dime from 50 years ago, for example, will buy a gallon of gas. My guess is that you’re not involved in productive work, saving, or investing, and your idea of economic and monetary theory is that money does grow on trees for the politically connected.

  9. Carolyn Yeager  June 17, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Besides telling you that you are the most interesting writer on this crowded website, and that this article is a great follow-up to “Confederation, Not Empire”, I want to find out if this comment will be accepted. I wrote a comment to James Petras’ article on Chavez two days ago and it was not. Even when I’m using my own name and all!

    My comment to Petras was concerning questions of history, did not break any rules, nor was I shown iit was being moderated. It just disappeared.

    But further, that you have provided a reason for revolution shows that you are not just blowing smoke and wringing hands. You are providing an easily understood blueprint for purposeful forward motion that real men and women can follow. This contrasts markedly with the usual fare on VT that goes after the “right” and celebrates the “left,” while actually exonerating the Jews and American military might worldwide.

    So … congratulations.

  10. adeUK  June 17, 2011 at 4:54 am

    Following a 30-mile car chase over the weekend that ended with a former-Military member firing shots at deputies, police are still scouring the woods of Montana for a real-life Rambo that authorities consider “armed and extremely dangerous.”

    The Missoula County Sheriff’s Office, the Missoula SWAT team and the FBI are combing through the mountains of western Montana on the lookout for David Burgert after a Sunday shootout that erupted after police tried to pull him over for driving erratically. An ex-Marine member and former leader of a militia, authorities believe that Burgert was equipped for engagement with law enforcement and is ready to go at it with officials at any time.

    “He was prepared for a confrontation,” Missoula County Undersheriff Mike Dominick told the Associated Press. “He drove purposely onto the logging road and he engaged the deputies with one to three shots.”

  11. wallytron  June 16, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Jews are less than 2% of US population. They hold 26 % of the seats in congress.

  12. wallytron  June 16, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    No person who holds “dual citizenship” should be allowed to hold any office in the US

  13. Dan  June 16, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    I hadn’t heard of the Secret of Oz, and I’ll have a look. Thanks.

    If Congress or any other entity were to increase the supply of money in a given year by 10%, for example, this money is bid on the available goods and services in the economy, and prices will inexorably go up by 10%, or even more if citizens anticipate future currency inflation, buying today with currency that has more purchasing power compared to future debased units. There’s more money floating around the system, but no increase in the net production of goods and services. This isn’t neutral by any means. As it is with the Fed creating currency today, those who get their hands on those dollars before prices trend up are transferred the buying power from the rightful owners who earned it.

    A stable economy and civil society is dependent on fair business dealing and a stable currency that enables economic participants to save or invest in the knowledge the purchasing power of their money, representing the reward of their labors, savings, or investments will not be transferred to others. Giving Congress the power to create currency at will, which a gold standard prevents, would enable Washington to make investment decisions–and we saw how abominably that worked in communist countries during the last century–, which would nearly always be based on political considerations and academic voodoo as to what deserves to be produced. Maybe our thinking isn’t that far apart, and I’d appreciate hearing what restraints might be placed on Congress to prevent money from being transformed from a medium of exchange and store of value into a medium of political change and virtual guarantee of confiscation.

  14. J. Bruce Campbell  June 16, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    First thing to do is watch Bill Still’s The Secret of Oz, if you haven’t already. Or read Ellen Brown’s Web of Debt. Creating currency out of thin air (fiat currency) is beneficial if it is done by the government, as we can see in the case of Germany under Hitler, which enjoyed the greatest prosperity after total collapse. The colonies enjoyed unprecedented prosperity with colonial scrip, until England put them back on the gold standard, which about destroyed them and led to the revolution. But the main thing that matters is no interest and no private ownership of the money business. There would have to be regulations once there is an understanding of the prosperity-generating nature of debt-free money supplied as needed.

    Most of the debt we have is fake debt and can be repudiated. Any debt based on the Federal Reserve Act and Wall Street speculation must be repudiated. Legitimate debt would be paid in the US Notes or forget it, same as Hitler did. What you’re missing is that you assume the national debt is legitimate.

    Obviously, a Congress this switched-on isn’t going to allow aggressive war, so that massive cost would be eliminated. It makes all the difference in the world who’s doing the printing and it can’t be done privately.

    Why tie currency to gold or silver? We’d have to go into debt to buy it anyway – what’s the point? There’s nothing magical about metal except to the owners of it. There’s no discipline involved in a gold-backed currency because the ratio can be changed anytime, along with the price of gold, as we saw in ’35. Our currency was gold-backed during the Depression and what good did that do us? Germany’s wasn’t and they prospered tremendously during the same period, coming from a lot worse experience than we did.

    You need to study what the banks did to us in the 19th and 20th Centuries if you don’t see the destructive power of deflation. Again, check out The Secret of Oz.

  15. Dan  June 16, 2011 at 11:19 am

    The peaceful solution is to nationalize the Federal Reserve and have the Congress issue debt-free currency…

    Bruce, what kind of solution is it giving Congress the same authority to create dollars out of thin air as the Fed now has? I’d say they’ll be more profligate on their own than under the Fed’s influence. The currency might be “debt free” in one sense, but only because a geyser of new currency funding the profligate spending would involve replacing runaway debt with runaway inflation. And, for another thing, the debt’s not going away no matter what entity spews out increasingly worthless dollars or ameros. If the federal government stopped spending completely this very minute, and if the 50 states started paying off the interest on the national at $100 million a day–because that’s who’s going to end up paying it–, it’d take 369 years just to pay the interest. What am I missing?

    At a minimum, creating dollars to just pay for things like wars and faux-humanitarian vote-buying programs is inflationary, and inflation hurts those least able to afford the inexorable increases in prices of food, fuel, clothing, and consumer staples that inflation brings in its wake. Inflation also vitiates the law of contracts between debtors and creditors and invariably results in the flagrant misallocation of scarce capital resources. In other words, as the standard of living is going down, the ability of the economy to sustain itself and grow is simultaneously destroyed by meddling fools in Washington.

    Inflation is a regressive tax; or, looking at it from other angles, it amounts to a cut in wages, confiscation of savings, and lowered standard of living. Using Monopoly as an example, people would quickly realize something seriously dishonest was going on if other players kept drawing more money from under the table to buy things with that money before that extra money worked its way around the board. That’s what inflation is, a scam to give preferred groups, like bankers, the Wall Street crowd, military-industrial complex, and politically connected voting blocks cash to buy things today before prices go up for the rest of us tomorrow. What could be more dishonest than stealing the wages of hard-working Americans, regardless of whether the Fed or Congress is doing the printing?

    The rate of inflation, honestly calculated by Shadow Government Statistics, for example, has been about 10% for the first half of the year, but reaching toward the flash point of hyperinflation in food and fuel, where the rate of inflation for those two necessities has been 17%. An attack on Iran and disruption in the supply of oil from the Persian Gulf would send the price of oil to $200 overnight as Iran closed the Straits of Hormuz, and eventually to $300, according to the former Saudi oil minister. Good night, America. In any case, inflation, the stealth tax, has been a de facto cut in working men and women’s wages of at least 10% in the first half of this year, and it’s going to get much, much worse. Crap about propping up the housing market to prevent a new avalanche of defaults amounts to the same thing as covering the big banks’ losses since the intended beneficiary is the banking cartel and surely not homeowners, who can go live in tents for all Washington cares. Meanwhile, Obama is proposing to buy yet more votes with shovel-leaning stimulus galore for the right people. Working men and women who produce things and have skills can go to hell.

    I don’t see how the deflationary argument involves a chain reaction causing defaults across the board since loans don’t come due simultaneously and debtors benefiting from reduced prices on everything else thereby have a margin to cover their debts. Deflation, or a trending down in overall prices, is actually quite good for workers whose wages stay the same. It benefits those who most need a break in these hard times, so saying it’s to protect the vulnerable has it exactly backwards. The idea that buying one job goofing off for the government doesn’t cost one over there in the private sector is nonsense. In fact, right now it’s probably costing nearly two private sector jobs. Government workers also pay no taxes since they’re intentionally overpaid by an amount always sufficient to pay their taxes, and then some, compared with what people with comparable salary determinants who actually work for a living net after taxes.

    What we need is a gold-backed currency to prevent the government and its banking confederates from robbing us blind through inflation, only this time behind a different screen of smoke and mirrors, like I think you’re proposing. I’m afraid we’ll never see one for the simple reason there’s a very real chance the Treasury has already sold or encumbered a major part of the 8,800 tons of gold it’s supposedly holding in trust for the American people. Sure, Congress is going to audit the Fed and our gold holdings tomorrow because they’re basically patriotic Americans who care, and everything’s going to be just fine. Get rid of the Fed once and for all? Never happen with this bunch of stooges in Congress since the Fed’s been counterfeiting the dollars to keep their drunken orgy going on Capitol Hill, and it’ll have to do so again soon enough now that the economy is double-dipping straight into a 30s-style depression, causing tax revenues to go down faster than our standard of living. The beast must be fed, and the Fed’s been appointed zoo keeper. Firing the zoo keeper and giving the animals control over the food isn’t an improvement unless they’re constrained by the gold standard.

  16. PR Smith  June 16, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Do you think NATO will declare the US a no fly zone to keep O from killing civilians, or more likely, a free fire zone. I`d like to see what you have described, but , like an alcoholic, I don`t think we have hit our “bottom” yet. It would take an awful lot to get things going, and people commited. By the way, you have the most realistic and truthful opinions, etc. of any one I have read. But Gordon is right up there with you.

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