Pentagon Trillions Missing, New Report

Pentagon Waste Murders Deficit Plans


Analysts predict deficit plans to fail due to trillions in Pentagon theft, continued waste.

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  1. wayne pacific  August 15, 2011 at 3:23 am

    Neo Boleshevik is the new terminology. “They” are now moving into the next phase, which will be the indefinite imprisonment and torture of any one opposed to Israel and Jews, and they will harvest body parts from the disappeared. The enemy combatant legal precedent is established, prisons are ready and the rail road cars and buses have been built for the transportation of the American Patriots. Food can now be controlled just in case their is opposition. they don’t reallly need to take our guns, because as the Jewish Bolsheviks did in Russia, they can just shut off the food supply to any rebellious city and soon the people will comply, or watch their children starve to death.

    “They” now know they can do about anything they wish here in America. Shoot a President in broad daylight – attack the USS Liberty -steal trillions right out of the pentagon, run cocaine from Columbia into America – destroy our biggest buildings – sell AK47’s to drug cartels – have the congress jump up and clap 29 times for Netanyahu like trained seals – and tell the ameridcans it came from a completely different direction

  2. US Veteran  August 14, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Being a lay person in these matters, I can only ask a question. When one of the space ships blew up after lurching and had body parts found as reported. Why is it, that no body parts were found from 9/11? The ship that exploded, carried more fuel and it was far stronger than jet fuel. The bodies did not evaporate there, but 9/11, I don’t remember seeing or hearing of bodies being found.

  3. grandma caesar  August 14, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    4 key points regarding 9/11:

    there are no pix or vids of a plane at the pentagon.

    there are no pix or vids of a plane at shanksville.

    there are no pix or vids of two piles of “110 pancaked floors”.

    there’s no possible way that fire—even if it was a 24 hr raging inferno—could have caused wtc7 to fall straight down in under 7 seconds.

    “urban moving systems”. that’s the dirty end of the stick.

  4. Smitty  August 14, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Tomer, who control’s the US? Peter isn’t changing the subject, he’s saying that Israel holds our leash and I agree with him (even though he thinks I’m a disino plant and was being a jerk to me, I agree with a lot of what he says).

    No I haven’t been in the military. My dad was in Vietnam though, drafted against his well along with most of the country to fight a war that they didn’t want to fight for reasons that nobody understood. He says he felt always like a merc and that was his opinion that influenced by beliefs as today. The commanding officers might be Americans, but ‘who watches the watchmen’ ? Who is the man/men (women?) behind the curtain? It aint Obummer

    The UN is the once-intended (but mostly failed) one-world government, successor to the league of nations (which was probably an experiment, maybe not even a failed experiment). They’ve spent a ton of energy on Israel stuff from almost the very beginning. When the partition plan was being tossed around, Jerusalem was intended to be under UN sovereignty because it is of significance. Some believe that there exists a brotherhood who want to re-build Solomon’s Temple possibly for their anitchrist YHWH/Moloch to return. I think something important is buried there but that’s my opinion.

    They didn’t get Jerusalem obviously. Anyways, the UN SC is the real UN and the GA is just symbolic. The UN wanted a military of their own and that never worked out. NATO, which is mostly the USA, is probably that army. Intended to counter the USSR yet still around to this day. Gladio was established prior to NATO. Gladio’s false flags use the exact same tactics as the Jewish terror groups of Palestine like Irgun and Lehi. 9/11, 7/7, Oslo, same tactics.

    Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are all NATO wars. Libya didn’t require congressional approval which to me shows they aren’t even hiding who controls our military anymore. Israel has an interest in all of these wars above and beyond the interest of anybody else. Right now Israel and France seem to be sleeping together too and France hates Libya and Syria.

    These are my observations, I absolutely could be wrong because I can’t prove anything. I put a bunch of circumstantial evidence together and it paints a picture. That is what it paints for me.

    As for the Pentagon, I’m over talking about it. Read my responses above if you have an hour or so. What happened? I have no clue but am done arguing since it proves my straw man theory (wasting time arguing over it). The flight data doesn’t match up, there was hardly any debris that civilians could see, the black box was never released, and the surveillance footage was withheld. Is that shady? You bet. Does it prove it was a plane? No. Does it prove it wasn’t? No. Does it prove it was a missile? No. Does it prove it wasn’t a missile? No. I don’t know anything except what I read. I don’t know who is a troll (and I assure you I’m not but believe what you want), who is an idiot, who is a paid shill, or who knows what really happened. I’m nobody, my opinion is not important and I’m not going to force it on people and insult them when they don’t agree. To me that isn’t seeking the truth, that’s just being a jerk

  5. Paul Barbara  August 14, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Sixteen to eighteen foot diameter entry hole (before a secondary explosion brought the front down); unbroken windows where wings and engines would have impacted?; thirteen eyewitnesses (including two police seargeants) all say plane trajectory was completely different to ‘Official Narrative? (see ‘Pilots for 911 Truth’ site) GI April Gallop walked through Pentagon hole immediately after whatever it was hit the Pentagon, and saw no aircraft parts or evidence a plane had hit the Pentagon: Rumsfeld helps scour the lawn for ‘debris’ (or to make sure no evidence of what really hit the Pentagon gets seen?); no Arab names on ANY of the four planes’ manifests; no video evidence of them boarding either (did ANY of the 4 ‘hijacked’ aircraft actually hit anything? Take a decko at ‘Operation Northwoods’; plans to ‘fake’ shoot-down of a planeload of US ‘students’, with switched remote controlled aircraft, fake ‘grieving relatives’ etc to frame Castro’s Cuba; the plan was signed off by all the Joint Chiefs, but was knocked back by McNamara. Are the planes’ passengers living under assumed names (the ‘students’ were to be security personnel with false id’s, so they could revert to their ‘true’ identities)? After all, some nine of the so-called ‘highjackers’ have been discovered to be alive and well, and living in their repective countries.
    And two of the ‘highjacked’ aircraft were reported to be still flying long after 9/11aircraft, by an airline worker.
    Dancing Israelis, Israeli ‘Security’ firms running take-off airport security, Bush’s brother involved in ‘security firm’ at WTC till shortly before 9/11.

    • Gordon Duff  August 14, 2011 at 5:01 pm

      Thus the Fetzer/Lawson issue.
      No plane one place, no plane both?
      Tower 7 blown up, other two also?

  6. Joe  August 14, 2011 at 9:19 am

    If both the pentagon and the federal reserve were audited then a great deal of the economic problems that are facing our government could be looked into and solved. The ones that should be leading, doing and demanding this is the U.S. congress since they, as the broadest power group, should be representing the interests of the American people. However, the GOP currently controls congress so that this is mostly not likely to happen. However, if it does happen then it is a step in right direction in putting the government in the right economic direction since trillions appear to be missing from both of these places.

  7. Curmudgeon  August 13, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    If no plane hit the Pentagon (which I believe) there would be no passenger remains. No remains found in Pennsylvania. No remains found in New York. The story of planes being diverted to Cleveland becomes more credible. Was 77 shot down after takeoff over the ocean? Did planes land at Cleveland and were the passengers liquidated? Interesting that the flight paths out of Boston were over military bases.

    We may never know the exact truth about what happened, but we can be almost certain about what didn’t happen – no 19 Arabs, no plane hit the Pentagon, Pennsylvania wreckage not from a passenger plane, at least, not one with passengers, and not one part from any of the wreckage sites positively identified as being from the allegedly hi-jacked planes. These points alone point to complicity at the highest levels of some or all of government, military, and intelligence agencies.

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 12:46 am

      No remains found in Pennsylvania
      Pennsylvania wreckage not from a passenger plane, at least, not one with passengers, and not one part from any of the wreckage sites positively identified as being from the allegedly hi-jacked planes.

      The Pennslvania crash site resembled the crash site of a 2 0r 3 person Cesna ,maybe
      resembled more like some used C4 to make a not very impressive hole in the ground with enough wreckage scattered about for a quite small plane, of course no remains or presence of the 4 multi ton steel jet engines or the rest of the 300 ton jet, and not to forget all those cell phone calls from the hijacked passenges all of which or at the very least virtually all these cell phone calls from the “airliners’
      that day,Sept 11,2001 would have been and were literally technologically impossible.
      Yes,to all , please don’t bother responding that so & so flew last week and used their cell phone, that is today 2011
      not Sept. 11 2001
      just to throw it in the Woman reporter from Britian/BBC who was in a different skyscraper perhaps around the 40th floor with large full glass windows behind her for seversl yards to her right and left,
      she reports , ” I have an update Building One is collapsing ” , then she looks over her shoulder and sees the building still there and she moves about 15 feet to her left so that she blocks the view of the tower that has not collapsed but she had just reported it had and then went on about something else and in short time the scene/location had moved onto elsewhere from where she was at.
      In a differnt kind of event/story I would say funny & priceless but instead I will refer to it as another choice screwup for those pulling this off ,by some Israelis & some Gentiles both.

  8. vinnie  August 13, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    All the money after 9/11 is in the zionist state of Israhell. ask Dick Head Cheney, and Cowboy George Bush.

  9. Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    get your motor running
    head out on a highway
    let’s go to the pentagon
    fly an airline
    they say they crashed on 911 American flight 77
    lets go and look at the debris
    or something just from cctv
    Born To Be Lied To
    Born To Be Lied To
    check the laws of physics
    newtons laws of motion
    having trouble swallowing what i can’t see
    they say that both wings fell off
    and the windows didn’t break
    they say it vaporized inside yeah
    thats why i can’t see
    Born To Be Lied To
    Born To Be Lied To
    man he can really fly
    2 days on the simulator and its lord of the skies
    flys a 300 ton airline at 500 miles an hour
    3 inches off the ground wow
    committed suicide
    Born To Be Lied To
    Born To Be Lied To
    im looking at the photographs but i can not see an airplane
    even on cctv
    an airplane i can not see
    lots of air force guys flying around for an hour
    while cheney sat on his butt
    how come it wasn’t shot down by
    expensive defenses stuff?
    Born To Be Lied To
    Born To Be Lied To

    deek jackson author

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 2:34 pm

      Born To Be Lied To – 911 The Musical

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      The Pentagon attack is the easy low hanging fruit (key) for 911

  10. Tom Valentine  August 13, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    if there is any method to the madness (unsupportable bickering) in here; it mut be to confuse even somewhat intelligent and experienced folks. Years ago Eustace Mullins told me that the so-called populist-patriot people will always bicker into ineffictiveness. The observation by this grand old guy, was prompted by my taking issue with two noted personalities—Bo Gritz and David Duke. I have since reassessed my views of Duke, and have zero contact with Bo. Not that my views have special merit; it is because I want the Mullins point about bickering to be weighted that I added detail. This forum is outstanding, pity general public won’t get it; I mean that double entendre.

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      Tom Valentine

    • Bruce Hayden  August 13, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Tom–Bo is a fraud. He lived in Sandy Valley, NV during my Las Vegas years so I was at several of his speeches and knew several people who had the dirt on him. Too off topic here though.

  11. curious george  August 13, 2011 at 10:58 am

    i dont accept the official line that a plane hit the pentagon. no wing damage to building. hole to small. no lawn damage. not plane debris.

    how to explain the story from mineta that cheney was asked by an e-4(?), “if the order still stood?”. the stand down order re the object approaching the pentagon(?).

  12. wallytron  August 13, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Perry the 2012 act alike of raygun is talking on cnn. I have the sound on mute. I love how he gets up on his tippy toes while talking.

  13. wallytron  August 13, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Amen. Also censure the 70 congressmen who are in israel as i type=traitors all

    • American Patriot  August 14, 2011 at 8:02 am

      wallytron, AMEN to that

    • American Patriot  August 14, 2011 at 8:07 am

      @ wallytron, AMEN to that

  14. dirt  August 13, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Indeed John, however, as long as the people believe the fake money is real it can be used to grease the machine and make people do just about anything to get some of it. 2 trillion is ficticious I know, I’m a trader and short dollars agains swiss francs, as well as YEN. But, it’s still dangerous like a near dead and desperate rattlesnake. Sad, I look at our currency in such a way. But , I deal in reality to deal with the insanity. I made almost 2k on a silver mining stock Friday. Contrarian is the way to be in this fractional reserve lending Disney Land. It’s sickening really, I’ve run out of american businesses to invest in. They don’t report the freaking truth about anything, I can’t spend money on lies. The Canadians and Chinese are scooping up all the smart money on the NYSE and NASDAQ, and it’s not a coincidence that the company I traded friday is a Canadian Co. MINING FOR SILVER IN CHINA!

  15. Anthony Clifton  August 13, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Bedtime stories for bimbos & dingbats {braindeadgoy}. OBL & Al Quida snuck the 16th Amendment in late one night before Christmas, after craftily replacing the original 13th Amendment, making US ZOG “CITIZENS” from all the state “citizens” after “reconstruction” so when the US – ZOG was declared BANKRUPT 3 March 1933 by OUR SAVOIR Rosenfeld, OBL & Al Quida called in all the gold to help Rapunzel spin some fancy weaving EMPERORs NEW CLOTHES so when the Braindeadgoy were poopagandized into a Mass Murder ploy to establish a NEW ECONOMIC ORDER {BIS/IMF}….which caused the Holocaust of SIX MILLION of Gods Chosen “PROSELYTES” to Talmudic Judaism in gas ovens…and then Al Quida & OBL attacked the USS LIBERTY, but not before causing the Patsy Oswald to Assassinate “our” beloved President in Dealey plaza with a magic Bullet … – Then OBL & Al Quida shot Vickie Weaver in the Face while she was on her front porch by Ruby Creek, and Gordon Kahl called home and said David Koresh was really Jesus, and he would commit MASS SUICIDE on 19 April 1993, and Timmy McVeigh would put Bombs in the Murrah building and set off an ANFO truck bomb to confuse the Braindeadgoy..and Zakheim had nothing to do with the LEDGERDEMAIN missing trillions of credit units manufactured from thin air, Al Quida & OBL did all the video Phakery cause they know how to suspend the laws of Physics, and accounting to, since they invented the Arabic numbering system & Algebra, – – sleep tight, and don’t let the bed bugs bite….What is “Money” ? ….can you breathe without air ? ? ? ? ? – – can thoughts proceed from false information , and render a TRUE CONCLUSION ? ? ? my moderation is awaiting comment..

  16. dirt  August 13, 2011 at 6:40 am

    What needs to be asked is this: Was this a 5 year audit? Was this money lost in 1 year? Katherine Fitts has been on record saying you cannot audit the federal gov’t, its set up so it can’t be done. We have a black budget that is never audited, and it’s huge. Need more info on the money trail and how it works. Is this money that was known to exist in accounts and then vanished? Was the money taken into possession and then dissapeared by Lockheed or Northrup? 2 trillion would take maybe 6 years to get to the pentagon normally if % of taxes is added up. Surely, the money wasn’t all in 1 account and then a swiss bank just accidentally pressed the wrong button. I have never heard of any trail, the people in the petagon working on that are dead of course. Still, people did survive and were aware. Need these people protected and debriefed. Rummy sure as hell didn’t ask any questions, too busy planning operation Kill Brown People. I’ve come accross so much information that even experts aren’t aware of and I’ve never seen one shred of info leaked or otherwise talked about in any form about a money trail. Pisses me off. I hate that you can’t swear here sometimes.

  17. Ross  August 13, 2011 at 3:45 am

    Tell me this Gordon.Not if ,but when the system goes into absolute melt down,is there one person in the US Military who has the balls and integrity to say enough is enough and we are not taking this any more? Wall St and the Federal Reserve are trashing the US economy and returned service men are treated appallingly.How can the US wage war when the means of production is being destroyed by the financial system?

    Congress is a total waste of space bar Ron Paul and a few others,but they are not enough.

    • Dan  August 13, 2011 at 8:01 pm

      Ross, I’m not Gordon of course, but your point about this country’s ability to wage war is well taken. Makes you wonder what men like Adm Mullen are thinking, doesn’t it? The talk about the federal debt ceiling obscures a more general economic reality, which is that the total of federal, state, and local government spending is already 51% of our national economic output measured in spending, or GDP. Obamacare, I’m guessing, would add another 3% or 4% to that spending total. Continuation of these wars significantly displaces private sector jobs so that there would be greatly increased costs of social welfare programs adding a few more points. In any case, if I’m not mistaken, government spending during the height of WW II temporarily hit a high of something like 56%, so that on the current spending trajectory there is no money at all to wage additional wars, or, for that matter, continue the ones we’re already fighting. For the elites to embark on, say, a war with Iran costing as much (I’m guessing) as the existing wars combined would destroy the economy in short order. A more widespread war involving China would exhaust this nation in no time, leaving it unable to defend its own shores, and maybe that is the intent. We shall see.

    • Ross  August 13, 2011 at 11:38 pm

      Dan, would Admiral Mullen allow his country to be policed by Chinese Soldiers? They want their world Govt to be based on the Chinese Communist Model.Perhaps the banksters and their cronies want to make some sort of deal with China and Russia.However can they trust China?.Most certainly China won’t trust them since I don’t think that even China would be that treacherous to its’own country and people.I think elements within the West have reached a decadence that even China cannot comprehend or trust.They too see total self destruction.

      With the riots all around the planet,the elites have a lot to worry about.If the awareness that we have reaches the masses,they are gone.This is why a global confrontation beckons,not so much to subdue China but to subdue the masses in their own countries.

      Once you know how they think,they are not very smart.They are becoming very predictable.

    • Dan  August 14, 2011 at 8:17 am

      Ross, I don’t think there is any intent to allow Chinese troops anywhere near North America or South America, but then I’m in not position to form a reasoned judgment. Maoist methods, yes; troops, no. Mao Zedong’s PRC massacred and starved to death, conservatively estimated, more than 40 million of its own people and most today are still agricultural or industrial slaves. In that sense, I think you’re correct in the overall intent of the elites in the West, who are remarkably like an evil, mirror image of all that we consider good about our civilization. Their idea of democracy is a nation of people so utterly propagandized that they assent to their enslavement. Freedom becomes losing yourself in the state, so in that sense there is a definite affinity with Maoist propaganda. For example, Janet Napolitano, a statist apparatchik if ever there was one, has launched the “See something, say something” campaign, preparatory to inciting people to denounce their family, friends, and neighbors to the authorities, Stalinist-style, as enemies of the state. Obama’s “regulatory csar” Cass Sunstein wants to criminalize dissent, while Elena Kagan stands ready to deny the right to free speech that she considers “dangerous,” as in dangerous to the state, as she makes clear enough. Mao would be proud. The destruction of 800 years development in the concepts of freedom, natural law, and natural rights tells us what their intentions are well enough, which is unraveling Western Civilization and imposing an oriental despotism with fabulously rich and powerful mandarins lording it over hordes of political ciphers. In thinking about your mentioning mass man, and the frightening and demoralizing fact that he has it in his head he thinks for himself, I’d recommend Jacques Ellul’s Propaganda, The Formation of Men’s Minds. If you give it a try, stick with it, and keep a notebook handy. Everything coming from this government is propaganda, which is not the same as straightforward lying. They lie with abandon to the extent there is no recourse to checking the facts, of course, but the technique rather involves overwhelming the victim–all of us, that is–with a whirlwind of facts and contrived problems intended to keep us in a state of extreme anxiety and consequently prone to emotional, irrational acquiescence in the relentless statism promoted by both political parties, pundits, academics, psychologists, and others in this new class of despotic mandarins. Recall, for example, Obama’s former propaganda commissar Anita Dunn. She unwittingly exposed her duplicity and that of these mandarins when she told students her favorite people were Mother Teresa and Mao Zedong, where the ideological pretext of humanitarianism conceals the intent to govern like Mao once in power.

    • Ross  August 15, 2011 at 2:58 am

      Dan they are not going to subdue the US population who have over 200 million weapons they know of.It looks like the Fed will effect economic meltdown and try to cause chaos at home for Obama or the next president to bring in martial law.Look at the chaos in Great Britian.They don’t have a fraction of the weapons that exist in the USA.There are not enough police or Military to take on such a well armed populace particularly if they have half a notion of who the real enemy is.

      They may well be too late,since once the general population smell a rat ,the learning curve is exponential.

    • Dan  August 15, 2011 at 9:02 am

      Ross, re your comment below, you’re mostly correct, I’m sure. They are indeed taking this nation down. Many of the best economists and financial analysts are wringing their hands over what they see as the irresponsible actions of this administration (completing what the last had started), the Fed, and the miserable fools in Congress. I believe they miss the point entirely, confusing the forest for the trees. When outsiders who can only infer the government’s intent believe the dollar is being not merely debased, but destroyed, and blame it on incompetence and petty political interests, it only proves how effective propaganda is. There can be no question whatsoever that those running this government from behind the scenes from Wall Street, Israel, and the banking crime syndicate are using us up to serve themselves in anticipation of the end game where they take us out to preclude retaliation. They may do this by instigating a war with China, for example, or believe that an attack on Iran and resultant trebling of oil prices will accomplish this just as readily. Most of the Americans who can see this are nonetheless effete bystanders, and by design, of course. I find it more than a little suspicious, for example, that all the talking heads and pundits on Fox continually remind us that we must devote ourselves to electing one of the (sell-out) Republicans they’re pushing, thereby deflecting our outrage and consuming our energy sitting in front of the tube and writing comments on blogs. That all the MSM are in panic mode over the candidacy of Ron Paul should tell thinking Americans that he must be the solution to our problem and consequently the end of their reign of tyranny. I have to disagree about their subduing us. As many are pointing out, they will up the number of false flag calamities to instigate civil disorder, which may involve introducing man-made plant and livestock diseases to devastate our food supply or introducing virulent flu viruses in cities, as well as traditional weapons and bombs blamed on Muslims. The result is that people demand more control, not less. Getting back to Ron Paul for a moment, I notice Fox is now engaging in a limited hangout, giving him credit for some good ideas since they have to, but still maintaining he’s oblivious to our real needs.

  18. Truther  August 12, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Here is a quote from GWB that deserves more attention. He’s talking about the aftermath of 9/11 and uses the Freemasonry motto “Order out of Chaos” (ordo ab chao).

    “You’re free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it’ll take time to restore chaos and order—order out of chaos. But we will.”
    Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003

  19. Mr. Niceguy  August 12, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Google: rabbi dov zakheim, Donald rumsfeld, 2.3 trillion, I think there’s a Lowkey song about it. Question is… Why would it stop if you keep getting away with it?

  20. DaveE  August 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Wasn’t it Rumsfeld who admitted he didn’t know where $3 trillion went, as well as a few missing nukes? This is like asking cancer cells to account for how many normal cells they’ve “misplaced.”

    • wolf  August 12, 2011 at 9:45 pm

      It was also the despicable Donald Rumsfeld who slipped up in an interview with Parade Magazine on October 12, 2001 – fully SIX MONTHS before the ‘missile hit the Pentagon’ theory became widespread thru the publication of Thierry Meyssan’s book, “Pentagate”. Here’s one of his freudian slips:

      “…and it’s physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and THE MISSILE TO DAMAGE THIS BUILDING and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.”

    • L.T.  August 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm

      After audit, it turned out to be $4.9 TRILLION

  21. Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    The unaccounted trillions is the reason why the whole debt ceiling plan is stupid. Not only that, the FED has $9 trillion dollars unaccounted for.

    It gets even weirder. You’ve probably heard that when flight 77 struck the Pentagon it hit a newly renovated and re-fortified section. But did you know that an auditing team investigating this missing $3 trillion had been recently moved there? That the plane destroyed a lot of this evidence?

    Did you know several passengers on flight 77 had military connections?

    “Bryan C. Jack, 48, from Alexandria (Virginia), was responsible for crunching America’s defense budget. He headed the Pentagon’s programming and fiscal economics division. He was on his way to California to teach a course at the Naval Postgraduate School. His colleagues said he was a brilliant mathematician and top budget analyst. He had worked at the Pentagon for 23 years.”

    Another victim on the plane WORKED IN THE WING OF THE PENTAGON. I realize the plane departed from Washington, but it only carried 58 passengers. 21 had military connections. What are the odds? IMPOSSIBLE that’s what.

    This is yet another reason they keep spinning the missile hoax. If you still believe it, do some more investigating so you can come to your senses as I did (I once believed it). That money was stolen and some of it, maybe even a lot of it, probably paid for 9/11.

    Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff headed the justice department. Because Cheney and Bush were conveniently not available for a brief windows early on 9/11, he was calling the shots. Chertoff’s FIRST COUSIN Benjamin Chertoff was in charge of the popular mechanics debunking 9/11 article. He denied the relationship and later said it was distant. Christoper Bollyn called his mom and ex-wife who said otherwise proving it was a lie. An odd stranger once approached Bollyn and told him not to talk about Michael Chertoff before a presentation he was a part of. Bollyn was tasered and arrested by a goon squad of Murdochish police. He fled the country (don’t believe the kidnapping story from Hufschmid, his sister is married to James Murdoch).

    Chertoff wrote most of the Patriot Act and was later the head of DHS. A client of his post-government ‘security’ business makes the cancer-causing airport nude x-ray machines which he should’ve gotten in trouble for a conflict of interest but didn’t.

    Chertoff is just one of many neocons working in our defense department during the Bush administration. Before the Bush era he was a councilor for the Whitewater committee. He also was involved with Giuliani in the Mafia Commission Trial (most likely helping his organized criminal buddies get a better sentence).

    This is simply too many coincidences to take for granted. This, his Israel citizenship, the neocons, the Mossad vans, Rupert Murdoch, Silverstein, etc. These guys were all working together on the entire operation. Probably with that missing money

    • Paul V. Sheridan  August 12, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      Your notion, however tacit, that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon is laughable on its face. It is your notion that a carbon fiber nose could penetrate SIX one-meter-thick 4000psi steel reinforced bunker level concrete walls (A-ring, B-ring and C-ring), clearing indicates you haven’t got a clue. Now, if you want to re-word your absurd second paragraph, we’ll let you do that.

      Next you’ll tell us that Barbara really did make those cell phone calls from “Flight 77.”

      Perhaps the worst of all is your diversion that Chertoff is a “neocon.” Nice try. Chertoff, as honest people all know, is a zionist.

      You need to clean up this post, and you need to stop trolling around anonymous.

    • Gordon Duff  August 12, 2011 at 3:43 pm

      Agreed. Anyone who supports the idea of a pentagon plane crash is totally fargin nuts,needs to be kept away from people and farm animals.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 6:55 pm

      I love you articles and agree with most of the things you write. I’m definitely a little fargin nuts just like most of the human race is but not a danger the other people or farm animals. That’s not why I support the idea of a pentagon plane crash though.

      Consider the source first of all, Thierry Meyssan. Read up on the guy and the books he wrote. He’s a pathological liar and a psychopath just like a lot of the world’s leaders. If you’re friends with him by any change, use the Hare Psychopathy Checklist on him if you don’t believe it. He’s an anti-Zionist, but that’s part of the game. Just like Eric Hufschmid (who invented the Global Hawk story). Also consider that Rumsfeld made his famous ‘missile’ remark within a week after Meyssan’s ‘hunt the Boeing’ site. One of these days you’ll drop the Pentagon missile belief.

      The Israeli involvement and the neocons/Zionists in our defense department at the time are more important. The Pentagon thing is a straw man. It is designed to make people argue about it and derail the movement (so we sound foolish talking about it) while the perpetrators go free. In the end, the whole official story is a lie so it doesn’t even matter. Even if people don’t want to believe it was a plane, just keep in mind that the “Pentagon dead people” were heavily involved in auditing this missing trillions.

      I believe that flight 93 was shot down but I don’t believe that it is important when we consider the whole thing is a lie. I think there is too much evidence to dismiss a plane crash at the Pentagon, but even if I’m wrong again it isn’t important when we consider the whole thing is a lie. I won’t apply that logic to no-planes and media fakery. That whole mess is laughable. I read Fetzer’s stuff for comedy only. The controlled demolition is less important than the Israelis who were arrested with explosives and deported (Chertoff likely classified the info). Obviously no plane hit WTC7 and it was a controlled demolition.

      The point I’m trying to make is that there are a ton of reasons not to believe what is essentially the official conspiracy theory story. Since the missile thing is such a sensitive thing for whatever reason it’s best to be avoided like Rivero does during interviews (I think he did this with you even if I remember)

    • Gordon Duff  August 12, 2011 at 8:19 pm

      go back to my article on the pentagon and see the video
      this is proven, slam dunk
      there is no question about the pentagon…no remote possibility…
      the plane couldn’t have done it…would have broken apart miles away…there was NO real wreckage..

      so much more
      and no pilot on earth could have flown it
      not guessing…we proved it all…unlike the WTC crap

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 2:34 am

      I’m aware of the flight data that places the plane on a trajectory above the Pentagon.

      Smitty are you referring to the flight data recorder recovered from the pentagon site?
      Read the ‘of the devil’ thing a while back. Picture the guy with horn and a red face and it is actually quite fitting.
      Didn’t know that about the pilot of flight 77 though, will have to check it out.
      this is just littering,
      yeah I litter sometimes but not to deceive

      I also don’t think that this should be the tipping point for the truth-seeking movement at all,


      there is plenty of other evidence. If it was all we had it would be one thing, but we have so much more. Building 7 being the most obvious. The George Washington Bridge van full of explosives and Israelis being another among a treasure trove of circumstantial information implicating a Zionist and neocon involvement years in the making.

      Smitty really wants to move on from the pentagon MISSILE ATTTACK

      I think there is too much evidence to dismiss a plane crash at the Pentagon, but even if I’m wrong again it isn’t important when we consider the whole thing is a lie.

    • DaveE  August 12, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      Neocons are what we called zionists in the Bush years. Nowadays, neocons, neoliberals and zionists are all the same thing, essentially, meaning someone who uses our military, banking sector or both to further Israel’s agenda, illicitly.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      Woah hold on there, we’re on the same side. At least I think we are. Chertoff is a Zionist. I meant to say Zionist and neocons, seriously. I said he was an Israeli at least. That was an honest slip, I aint trollin

      I used to believe the Pentagon missile thing and no longer do. If you want to continue believing it, that’s fine because I’m not going to change your mind. Just keep in mind that Thierry Meyssan came up with it and less than a week later Rumsfeld made his notorious slip. Meyssan claimed to be a ‘leftist’ and an anti-Zionist but has since become quite the opposite. I believe it is deliberate disinfo to hijack legitimate truth seekers (and it worked because it’s become like a religous belief that people refuse to denounce). If you want to believe it’s a missile I don’t agree but lets just not make this the sticking point behind the whole truth thing and move on

      I refuse to re-phrase my paragraph. Since you refuse to not believe it was a plane, ignore what I said and keep in mind that the people who still died and the missing trillions are correlated. Plane or no plane. Can we agree on that at least?

      Now if you support the Jim Fetzer narrative and media fakery, then we know who is really trollin. That guy has no credibility except for an army of sock puppets

    • DaveE  August 12, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      We’re pretty much in agreement, but I’m with Gordon that it was a missile or missile-like projectile and not a plane that hit the Pentagon. Jim Fetzer is a Psy-Op propagandist, as far as I can tell.

      Thierry Meyssan (sic?) is typical of the Jewish “(fake) anti-zionist “left.” He’ll introduce a wacky argument or counter argument just to discredit the people he “claims” to be defending, just like Jim Fetzer, IMHO. (I think we agree here….)

      Gillad Atzmon has a new book out, soon, which MAY address this fake-Jewish-left issue, although I’m taking his word for it, since I haven’t read it.

      Anyway, not trying to pick a fight, here….. just thought I’d try to clarify and/or embellish you post. Whatever differences we may have are academic, as far as I’m concerned.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      I’m with you there. If the Pentagon was all we had to go off of it would be one thing. Luckily we have many more juicier morsels to prove the official conspiracy theory is wrong. Just going to avoid it from now on, don’t want to pick fights either.

      What I originally said is still valid to both narratives. It’s still related to that missing 2.3 trillion and that is no a coincidence.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm

      Your site is a lot better than the usual crap I’ve read on it. And hey you brought up the missing 2.3 trillion too.

      You know, I honestly don’t know what to believe any more but I stand by what I said about the plane being involved. That doesn’t mean it was the plane alone that did the damage (just like in NYC), I mean it would’ve been the best way to ditch the plane and passenger evidence. The alternative is too risky. The whole thing is full of anomolies. Those sureveliance videos have always been pretty weak. Blow ’em up and get big fuzzy pixels.

      You know maybe arguing with you was a good thing. I have no idea what to believe, I just want to know the truth.

      If you actually read this I hope you don’t equate my response with resorting to COINTELPRO/Hasbara trickery. Because if you do, I’ll have NATO send HAARP to your house 😉

      We should all come to terms that this is all pointless considering nothing ever came out of JFK. It is time to worry about more important things in the world. Like the suitcase nuke-carrying terrorists in Tehran. We must attack Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel must defend herself and the non-violent resistance from the Palestinians will be dealt with violence since they will turn violent. Ahmadinejad and Assad are Hitler. Israel are not occupiers in historic Judea and Sameria. We must use excessive force and enter another war. Just kidding!

    • Derek  August 13, 2011 at 12:18 am

      Smitty you’re okay. I enjoy reading your posts. We should all stand together we are all on the same side.

    • L.T.  August 13, 2011 at 5:20 pm

      Our dual-citizen Israeli friend Chertoff “wrote” the UNPatriotic Patriot Act, the one that obliterates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights since it removes any and all rights to legal defense if they point a finger at you and call you a “terrorist” or “extremist” as DHS has repeatedly done.

    • Marie  August 16, 2011 at 3:50 am

      Paul- he is entitled to his opinion. As are you, but really that was kinda harsh.

    • dirt  August 12, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Guess who the pilot of flight 77 was? “Chic” Burlingame III Navy F-4 pilot and once worked on anti-terrorism strategies in the Pentagon…said to have been involved in terror stunts like flying planes into the pentagon. Smitty, I respect your opinion, however, as an engineer I’ve studied 9-11 more than anyone I know. Aluminum cannot penetrate 8′ or 6 seperate walls of double reinforced concrete. And you can’t melt titanium in ANY part of the scenario on that day.. I believe a plane was there but pulled up and flew over the pentagon, a missile was underneath. Truly I’m now sure, but an AA flight didn’t do that damage. I know people from the construction company that worked on that side of the pentagon for refitting. Hensel Phelps, I interned with them, they are based out of Greeley, CO. I know the specs of those walls. There needs to be a new word that supercedes ‘impossible’. Because that’s what it is. Side note, did you know Chertoff in russian means “of the devil?” Wonder why the russkies hate the jews? And that ain’t nice Gordon, your supposed to be the adult here 🙂

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      Read the ‘of the devil’ thing a while back. Picture the guy with horn and a red face and it is actually quite fitting.

      Didn’t know that about the pilot of flight 77 though, will have to check it out.

      Just because I believe a plane was involved does not believe that I think the damage was solely do to a plane. Go watch the surveillance video labeled “Pentagon Security Camera video from 9/11 (2)” on youtube and watch the lower left-hand corner very carefully at the 29 second mark. Secondary explosions, just like with the WTC. In the first video you don’t see this but you do see debris being blown from the left side of the camera.

      I’m aware of the flight data that places the plane on a trajectory above the Pentagon. I just personally believe a plane was involved and that there was debris and dead bodies and eye witness accounts to support it. I think it’s best we should agree to disagree. Acknowledge that something odd happened there and also the damaged area and the dead people involved cannot be a coincidence.

      I also don’t think that this should be the tipping point for the truth-seeking movement at all, there is plenty of other evidence. If it was all we had it would be one thing, but we have so much more. Building 7 being the most obvious. The George Washington Bridge van full of explosives and Israelis being another among a treasure trove of circumstantial information implicating a Zionist and neocon involvement years in the making.

    • Gordon Duff  August 12, 2011 at 8:03 pm

      It is suckers like this that have made America a laughing stock.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      LOL! I really hope you are joking. So what’s your take on the missing pentagon trillions? Careless spending or theft? Plane or no plane, the dead (or missing if you don’t think they’re dead) can’t be a coincidence. The evidence was destroyed too.

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      I really hope you don’t think I’m trolling and are just trying to mess with me.

      I don’t want to argue but because you baited me by implying avoidance is an admission of guilt, I’ll go ahead and give you my opinion

      We are on the same side except for this Pentagon thing. We both view the opposing opinions the same way.

      You believe that somebody who rejects the official story but supports a 757 crashing into the Pentagon is a dangerous hijack

      I believe that somebody who rejects the official story but supports a missile hitting the Pentagon instead of a 757 is a dangerous hijack

      At this point maybe it doesn’t matter. If I’m right and the story was made to discredit us, the damage is all done. If you’re right it just means I’m a gullible idiot. Sorry if I am, I’m a human.

      We know that there are disinfo agents who dispense both truth and lies, often starting with truth and then transitioning to lies. This is what people like Fetzer have done. Or to use a non 9/11 example one of the ‘official’ twitter feeds for the flotilla II did when after it the thing was stopped started saying “oh well, lets focus on Syria”

      I personally believe that disinfoists have long used the missile thing for the same purpose. You probably believe the opposite. Hence, why we argue.

      Okay here’s why I don’t believe it. The people who have pushed this thing from the start like Thierry Meyssan (missile) and Eric Hufschmid (global hawk) have become questionably unreliable over the years. Especially Hufschmid saying Bollyn was kidnapped and brushing off his sister married to James Murdoch as a meaningless coincidence. Loose Change and In Plane Site made it even more popular. In Plane Site has been mostly debunked and is outdated. David von Kleist is either a useful idiot or a Zionist. Loose Change is also outdated and USS Liberty aside it avoided the Israeli involvement. They were probably useful idiots. At least it got more people asking the right questions.

      The problem I have with most of the missile sites is that the people who support the theory often reject the Zionist/Israel thing. They support it like a religion and attack anybody who questions anything about it like the holocaust industry does. They use misleading photos with firehose spray and say things like “this is conclusive undeniable proof and only an idiot would disagree!” when their proof isn’t very good proof even if you believe it was a missile.

      There is a photo of a 757 landing gear usually labeled as not a 757 landing gear. I decided to look it up myself and it looked an awful lot like a landing gear from a 757. I’m not an expert though.

      Unless I haven’t read the right things, this is what I know. There was debris. They say most of it was inside. They say the recovered and identified all but one body. Of course they tell lies, but that would imply quite a few liars (then again NYFD aint talking about the bombs these days) Eyewitness reports did see a plane. The holes, depending on whose MS paint screen shots you see do match up.

      So what doesn’t makes sense. The exit hole. The guy who saw a global hawk (whose son says is a liar). The woman in the Pentagon (who could be a liar). Lack of debris near impact on the lawn. The explosion in one of the surveillance frames (if there were secondary explosions, that could be why they compensated the footage). The implausibly low altitude.

      There are anomalies. I get it. But what happened to the actual plane and the passengers? How many people would be involved in a cover up? Would that many eye witnesses and air traffic controllers be lying? Humans of conscious aren’t very good at keeping a secret. That would require a legion of psychopaths.

      I’ll go read your site and watch the video, but I don’t believe it was a missile and don’t consider it to be important. Do we all have to be on the same page? I know they tell lies, but if I planned 9/11 I would’ve crashed the plane and passengers into the Pentagon. Even if a missile was involved, it would be the easiest way to deal with them rather then risk it later. Then again, they aren’t the smartest people.

      So call me a sucker if you want, we probably agree on everything else and the Zionist/Neocon perpetrators are walking freely among us while we’re arguing about a non issues. Pentagon blew up, auditors died. I don’t see why it couldn’t be a plane and you think it was a missile. Can we agree to disagree?

    • Smitty  August 12, 2011 at 9:35 pm

      I wrote you a novel below. I’m not protecting anybody and again I hope you’re just messing with me. NATO controls our military. They would use it against us. They have used it against us. They’re handing out surveys asking if they would follow orders to kill Americans (including family and friends).

      The articles is about the missing trillions. I wasn’t using the Zionist tactic of changing the subject, it was a serious question. $2.3 trillion is a lot of money. The auditors were moved to the recently re-fortified and renovated section that was hit. A lot of them died as did their work (the evidence). If it was a cruise missile like you believe, there were people who were connected to the finaces and Pentagon they say were on the plane. They’re either dead or missing. Even if I was 100% convinced of the missile thing, the money thing is a big deal too. Adjusted for inflation and it’s more money than the crooks are saying on paper that will be save in the new spending plan.

      Add that to the $9 trillion the FED can’t account for and there is good evidence that no gold exists in Fort Knox. These guys are crooks and the

    • wolf  August 12, 2011 at 10:17 pm

      Another commentator posted this link on another article re: what happened to missing plane and passengers:

      You say that covering this up would take a ‘legion of psychopaths’ and that is pretty much what we are up against…although I prefer to call them ‘minions’. It is a matrix of deception and most of our countrymen don’t know or don’t WANT to know.

      I think this issue about the Pentagon hit…plane vs missile, IS important. When you examine the facts, you can come to no other conclusion other than it was a missile and not a plane that hit the Pentagon:

      You may as well be saying that jet fuel DOES burn hot enough to melt steel.

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 2:50 am

      a plane was involved and that there was debris and dead bodies and eye witness accounts to support it
      why confiscate permanently some 7 dozen video cameras in that vicinity that would show some of this extensive proof you imagine exist?
      enough “plane” debris to fill one small pickup truck
      eye witness accounts don’t all jive with your fantasy, of course a number of eyewitnesses had been briefed beforehand so they would know in advance what they witnessed later,
      how many dead bodies from that Airline ?

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 3:20 am


      The problem I have with most of the missile sites is that the people who support the theory often reject the Zionist/Israel thing. They support it like a religion and attack anybody who questions anything about it like the holocaust industry does.
      ( THAT WAS CUTE )
      Sure Smitty
      Smitty you are starting to get funny, please tell us more

      The problem I have with most of the missile sites is that the people who support the theory often reject the Zionist/Israel thing.

      sloppy/schizo effort to divide us over what??

      They support it like a religion and attack anybody who questions anything about it like the holocaust industry does.

      Are you a ZZ ??
      Neo-Nazi in drag??
      some jerk here to troll and spread confetti ??
      worked for any defense contractors??
      Smitty where were you on 911,

    • Oklahoma  August 13, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      flight 77 struck the Pentagon
      incorrect,false,not supported by the facts,
      the lawn needed a little sod and not much more,
      explain the absence of wreckage from 4 multi ton steel jet engines
      the wings broke or cracked zero windows??

    • Gordon Duff  August 13, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      Rumsfeld put it in his pocket.

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 2:58 am


    • Born To Be Lied To  August 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm

      Millions of Americans are demanding a real investigation and public hearings which do NOT deliberately omit the testimony of individuals like Sibel Edmonds who has a DOJ gag order to prevent her from telling what she knows.

      If he is dead, it comes as no surprise that Mr. Bush considers Bin Laden irrelevant because he knows there’s no chance of capture. Just keep producing boogie man videos every few months of Bin Laden and a loose knit, scattered bunch of thugs called Al-Qaida to keep the American people scared and willing to foolishly give up their God given rights.

      PART 1 of 2
      By: Devvy Kidd
      September 11, 2006
      © 2006 –

    • L.T.  August 13, 2011 at 5:30 pm


    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 7:28 pm

      Smitty is dis-info or is early in Kindegarten about 911
      Smitty smells bad
      Mentions or refers to THE plane 6 times, in a post that is about

      Pentagon Trillions Missing

      Another victim on the plane WORKED IN THE WING OF THE PENTAGON. I realize the plane departed from Washington, but it only carried 58 passengers. 21 had military connections. What are the odds? IMPOSSIBLE that’s what.

      not even good copy,
      58 passengers with 21 of which had military connections
      What are the odds? a great deal more than impossible, sheesh

      Smitty smells bad real bad

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      The Pentagon MISSILE attack is the easy low hanging fruit (key) for 911
      flys a 300 ton airline at 500 miles an hour
      3 inches off the ground wow

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 7:40 pm


      I realize the plane departed from Washington EROR ERROR ERROR
      Smitty if you are going to try and carry forward the OFFICIAL 911 VERSION mythology
      at least stick with the script!

    • Born To Be Lied To  August 13, 2011 at 8:05 pm


      reminds me of
      June 25, 1978: Frank “Collin” the Heartless Nazi Monster leads his “Nazi march

      for a long time I sincerely believed Z ism was just to provide cover for Jews,
      I understand and know I was quite wrong about that
      Z ism includes many many others
      ( the sheer volume of evidence in of itself is a bit depressing)
      Z ism the cult that killed the World
      Why can’t Americans have a real impact on their Political Centers of Power,
      Simple, among other things, there is no trust

    • American Patriot  August 14, 2011 at 7:59 am

      Don’t worry about it. The jew bankers know where it is.

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