Iron Sky: The Movie

by Dr. Ingrid Rimland Zundel


Okay, for the record, before I lose my scalp: I personally have never seen a UFO. I have never been “contacted”, much less abducted. I don’t believe in little green men. I think the idea of invisible “greys” among us is loony. The notion that a “highly advanced society” of non-earthlings is planning a humanitarian visit to lift us onto a “higher plane of ethical awareness” is baloney.

However, I do believe that several governments, including the U.S., are up to their ears in covert UFO projects that are blacker than black and off every radar. I also believe that people with guilty consciences have every reason to fear UFOs. I think their fear controls what we are not to see or know – and that the prime Weapon of Mass Deception is ridicule of the fiercest, most ferocious kind against anyone who asks for information and disclosure. Their fear is palpable. Why is that?

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In my youth I lived in several countries in South America. I know for a fact that after World War II there were two countries – Chile and Argentina – that offered shelter and protection to German scientists who had worked on space exploration. Under Peron, particularly, there was a lot of sympathy for Germans.

I am open to the possibility – not certainty! – that there exists a colony of German science expats somewhere on a near planet, perhaps even on the back side of the moon. I don’t know any specifics, so don’t come to me for additional info – I cannot help you there. But I am curious, and so should you be. Look for the William Pavelec interview on youtube about U.S. black projects on UFOs to get a whiff of what could possibly be true.

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So, when I read that there exists a European movie maker team who is in post-production about a film depicting a return of “Moon Nazis”, it naturally piqued my interest. I contacted Timo Vuorensola, the director, on behalf of Veterans Today to see what they were up to.

Sit back and relax. Don’t blame Gordon Duff – it was my idea. Take this for what it is – it is meant in a light-hearted vein …

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Veterans Today: Internetters know that there exists a huge global community of believers in “Moon Nazis”. This would include the common man in the street who is fascinated by science fiction as well as the scientific community, primarily those engaged in space exploration.

Respected NASA scientists and space researchers have spoken out about the existence of earth-like communities on the dark side of the moon. Where does your film draw the line? How much credence is given to the possibility that there exists an off-earth community of entities who look like us, talk like us, think like us – in essence, who are a “breakaway society” from earth?

Iron Sky: On behalf of everyone working for Iron Sky, I can say that no one of us believes in the real existence of Nazis on the Moon – or anywhere else outside of Earth, for that matter. Yet, we find the idea compelling; given the fact that Nazis had a lot of secret tech which eventually led partially to the big space race and space exploration, we find it intriguing to think the “what-if” -scenario, and try to approach it with two things in mind: if it would be true, how would it be even theoretically possible, and – even more importantly – how to make it cinematic. But of course, more importantly, it’s a human story, and the whole “Nazis on the Moon” issue is just a setting for a story to be told.

Veterans Today: I am a great believer in shortcuts to thinking by using precision words or phrases. In your preliminary correspondence you used the phrase “Moon Nazis”. This phrase would work for both your fans and your detractors. I actually think that “Moon Nazis” would have been a more catchy title than “Iron Sky” – which is excellent also with more serious and weighty connotations. Who chose the current title – and why?

Iron Sky: We do like subtexts, and the whole needs to be something more poetic than the core of the plot of the movie. We also liked the idea of concretically having a sky full of iron when the Nazi UFOs and Zeppelins roar on close orbit of Earth. And strangely enough, nobody had done a film with the name, so in the end it was an easy pick.

Veterans Today: I understand “Iron Sky” is a black comedy feature film. Several of your promo pieces give the impression that “Moon Nazis” are fair game for poking fun of the Hitler regime and its admittedly impressive scientists. Regardless of the negative political taint still clinging to the era, is your approach not merging respectable science and politically correct but one-dimensional political sentiment?

Iron Sky: Our political agenda is that we believe that what happened back in early 1900’s is so very close, and with people not paying attention to what the politicians are saying and blindly believing these people know better what’s good for them, we’ll end up in the same mess very soon. Hitler’s and Stalin’s eras are still so close, and watching which direction the politics in Europe are slowly stumbling to, I think Iron Sky’s message is a timely one.

Veterans Today: For decades, governments have justified a curtain of secrecy around the concept of life in space with entities who might have an interest in earth. The argument has been that such a concept would topple conventional belief systems such as religion. Do you see any harm in people projecting their own fantasies and wishes onto artistic creations that might have negative fallout in societies?

Iron Sky: Honestly believing in extraterrestial life, but not believing human kind has or will ever have connection (or at least reasonable in any intelligible way) with it, I believe humouring ourselves with such thoughts has always been a good way to learn of ourselves. Many of similar topical movies take the idea of an enemy, or friend, or something in between coming from outside of our world, and realize it among people of today to speculate what would our reactions be – because we want to experience, speculate and learn from “our own” reactions in a safe environment of a movie theater. And if at the same time it ignites some thought process in our heads challenging our fundamental thoughts and values and looking at everything from outside the box, I consider it to be solely a good thing.

Veterans Today: Your film is unusual in several ways. First, it is a non-Hollywood film in that it is being produced at a fraction of the costs of what a Hollywood film would cost. Secondly, fundraising involves a global community rather than a handful of fat cats. How did that novel idea come about – by design or by default?

Iron Sky: In many ways, by default. We had finished our previous film “Star Wreck in the Pirkinning” with the help of our Internet community, and knew that just by applying normal methods in production and funding we would not be able to reach the budget we were looking for. We again turned over our financial plight to our community, and again they were out there, ready to pitch in to see some Nazi arsekicking.

Veterans Today: Whether or not one might wish it to be so, your film will bring the concept of “Moon Nazis” into mainstream awareness and largely remove the current taboo attached to discussing such a “flat-earth conspiracy”. It is known that there has been a tight clamp on serious scientific discussions of this kind. Does your film not open the door to millions of people questioning why there exists such a curtain of silence on the part of official governments – in other words, make them “conspiracists”?

Iron Sky: I wouldn’t be too worried of that. It’s the same thing as with any conspiracy theory movie. It does push our imagination and offers a great “what-if” -sandbox, but in the end, I don’t assume anyone walks out of the theater and starts calling their government to reveal the big Moon Nazi plot they’ve been hiding. Well, crazy people might, but they can be triggered by anything.

Veterans Today: Has there been any censorship targeting your project? Or is this film approved at least in part so as to let off steam and prepare the global community for dramatic, in fact tectonic shifts in what folks in the future will not only believe but take for granted?

Iron Sky: Not sure what you mean by “tectonic shifts”, but we’ve had some censorship issue discussions for sure, especially regarding Germany. Their laws are very tight in portraying Nazis, but as soon as they read the script and realized the intention behind, we were clear to do the film. There are some extra-tight laws in Germany, for example with costumes and marketing, but we knew of them beforehand and were prepared for them.

Veterans Today: It is my understanding that this film is a triple production, involving Finland, Germany, and Australia? These are countries commonly seen as traditionally European by ancestry and background. We in America see large factions of Finland as openly approving of the Hitler era, and Germany as covertly approving. I don’t know about Australia, but I find it puzzling that the United States are not involved. Is this a clandestine “Declaration of Independence,” from Europe, at least in the artistic realm?

Iron Sky: Finland absolutely does not approve of the Hitler regime, and Germany even less so; not sure where this impression could be coming from. The reason why USA is not one of the production parties is simply that we didn’t find a suitable US production partner to join the production, and managed to do it without them. Three countries already involved is quite a heap.

Veterans Today: Finally, put your hand on your heart and tell me: How do you account for the enormous fascination with German science that came out of the Hitler Era, which is commonly believed to be expressed in a belief in so-called “UFOs”? Nobody talks about Russians having gone to the moon and set up housekeeping there, or Americans – or anybody else, for that matter. It’s always the “Moon Nazis.” This is an amazingly robust belief that defies common sense – for most people. Could fear be involved that such a thing as an invasion could come true?

Iron Sky: Not so much fear. I honestly don’t think there are too many people really believing in Moon Nazi invasion and being able to survive in the current day world. What fascinates people is the secrecy of the Nazi technology that’s been glorified over the decades in movies and literature and the idea that whatever the Russians or the US would be doing secretly behind our backs on the Moon without us knowing would never be as dramatic as what Nazis would be doing. There’d be only one thing they’d be doing, that’s invasion. Russians and Americans would probably be just digging for some Helium-3, which would not be so bad, given the oil dependency of today’s world.

Veterans Today: Except for making money, which I believe this film will make hand over fist, what do you expect this project to do?

Iron Sky: I hope it helps people open their eyes and ears and read between today’s political messages, especially the ones of right wing ideology and religious fundamentalists (both Christian and Muslim). We hope Iron Sky inspires people to think, but also to create and be creative. Filmmaking is no more the game of a few selected people. Anyone can pick up a camera, buy some software and start shooting the next masterpiece.

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27 Responses to "Iron Sky: The Movie"

  1. john sumner  September 9, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Dr. Zundel,

    I cannot claim to know or understand where Ms. Yeager is coming from. I hope that there is not real animosity developing between the two of you, as the work that both of you do is important, courageous and necessary.

    I believe that there are many, like me, who truly have great amounts of respect and affection for you, and who find it jarring to read that you wonder about National Socialists in space, and when it seems like you are interested in a movie that looks like another of the countless and dreadful and dishonest anti-Nazi/anti-German flicks that we have be blugeoned with for decades.

    With respect, I do not understand what is going on, here.

    • Carolyn Yeager  September 10, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      Thank you John. I am wondering too, which is why I ask questions.

  2. Bachatero  September 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Where is my apology to scott?
    Did I say something wrong?


  3. Bachatero  September 9, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Think that´s smart, Scotty? Maybe you beamed them all up and they ungratefully ate your brains out?

  4. scott  September 9, 2011 at 10:57 am

    so, where are the transformers living? I thought they were on the dark side of the moon!!

  5. TroubleMaker  September 9, 2011 at 6:53 am

    Mr. Sault, this is off topic, and I don’t know if you are legit, but I’m intrigued by what you have to say.

    I have a degree in electrical engineering with a good deal of background in electromagnetic fields and waves. I recently came across an educational briefing created by a gentleman named Tom Bearden. Here is the link:

    What he says is quite different from anything I was ever taught about physics, but it makes sense to me. I would greatly appreciate it if you would take a look at his tutorial and give me your impression.

    For others viewing this who have a physics background, please check out what Mr. Bearden describes. Very interesting, but different.

  6. ronisrael  September 9, 2011 at 6:44 am

    Let us explore UFO key evidence Before drawing conclusions :

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  7. john sumner  September 8, 2011 at 9:46 pm


    You are a thug.

  8. Bachatero  September 8, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Yes, Jim, Marrs has a high EQ (entertainment quotient) but he is a detractor. And so are Icke, Maxwell and all the other “truthers” and “whistle blowers” and bringers of “knowledge”. Do you really believe that anything the public can know is of any worth at all? What everybody knows is most certainly wrong – otherwise the world would be functioning since long and anybody could make money at the stock market. In order to start comprehending and grasping the working of this world your mental reasoning capacity, as p.e measured in IQ units (all rather fluffy), must needs be way beyond the white average of 100, unless, of course, you have access to “higher” sources, whatever they may be (ask Laura Knight-Jadczyk and the Cassiopaeans for 100% truth). In any case it is a daunting task to find out “what is really happening” and almost always you have to pay the price in its various forms, from Ernst Zuendel´s prison years to “off your head”. Why all this ranting? Just to confirm: you were close but The Fourth Reich is of the Titans/Teutons – the Reich of Prometheus (The One of many names, you know who) and HE will make all Shadow Governments shitting in their pants. And the sorry Nazis were but the harbingers of it. But maybe we´re lucky and Jesus returns just in time to save our asses. Let´s hope so.


  9. Jim  September 8, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    “The Rise of the Fourth Reich” by Jim Marrs.

    The Fourth Reich is the Shadow Govt.

  10. Bachatero  September 8, 2011 at 5:10 pm


    even if nobody would remember, their legacy would still influence every aspect of life of the common people (like you and me?). Please help me to better understand what you mean by “all those German wars, politics and craziness”. For example look at today´s Germany in some key areas (economy finance, etc.) and then look back at America and ask yourself where the “craziness” really is? Do you believe the world is simple and can be understood by any average sheepish Joe just because he “feels” so? After all, living on Mars is no mean feat. You need a base in Houston.


  11. Stephen  September 8, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    If anyone could establish a colony on the Moon and keep outsiders away since 1973, why bother returning to Earth at all? Why couldn’t they just keep going, to Mars and the Galilean satellites at least, if not the stars as well? Germans on Mars seem much more likely than a return by the Nazi spacemen to a world that threw them out.
    If not for the pop culture no one today would remember all of those German wars, politics and craziness, much less have any interest in that sort of thing. The Nazis are as popular as heavy metal music to some people, and less relevent.

  12. Bachatero  September 8, 2011 at 12:41 pm


    if it was only Hollywood! But the facts point to the real possibility, that Germany is in their hands as well, not only 100% but 200%. Of course, as always by proxy (think of the book of Ester). I am a German (1947) and can assure you, that the Nazis ARE in the history books. The question is who´s history is it – how close to truth is this written history of the Nazis in the Land of their origin. That is it what Ernst Zuendel and Ingrid Rimland are asking for so many years. Bad things were done – not only by the Germans – nobody in that ugly war game came out as a shining hero, despite the propaganda. But we need the truth and until we have that truth published by the media of the world and justice is done perhaps one day, it must go on. Think about it – you cannot bury something like WW I/II and what followed and forget it. The world will be a haunted place forever. Think about it.


  13. Bachatero  September 8, 2011 at 8:09 am

    I have an IQ of 234.751 and I say this SA(u)LT is a fraud and probably a Jew because of his chutzpa and bluntness. But, why don´t they let the Nazis die? Why is their “case” kept alive by all means (Germany is even hysteric about them). Perhaps something is to be expected from them sometime, perhaps not so bad, and it is important to have them viewed as “the evil of all times”. The burners of the “6 millions”. Could this be the 0.01% truth hidden in 99.99% junk?

  14. Smitty  September 7, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Paul, Despite my losing faith in VT (and Gordon Duff in particular) as a very real and possibly ADL/JDL controlled psy-op of some sort, also despite you calling me cointelpro a few weeks back, I agree with almost everything you say and I know that you are on to something. I wish you would re-consider your Pentagon/Cruise Missile theory since it is a deliberate dead-end straw man but I’m glad you seem to have acknowledged that all ‘truthers’ don’t agree on it.

    Secret societies and the hexagram Jews (the hexagram was NEVER a symbol of Judaism until after the French Revolution.. despite some sparse evidence to the contrary this is a FACT people) exist to look for certain people to expose the hidden (in plain sight) truth to. The truth is humanity has been conned.

  15. Marc C. Daniele  September 7, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    To me this movie seems like more crap to continue brainwashing us goyims of the so-called evils of the Nazi Party!

    Moon Nazi’s yet right!

    Let’s talk about a REAL threat to humanity, Zionism, Neocons, and The Federal Reserve Bank/s!

    To Dr. Ingrid Rimland Zundel,

    First, I wanted to tell you I truly respect what your husband has tried to do! Revisionism IS NOT dead! I wish him, and you all the best!

    Second, I have written to you in the past about the New Ford Translation of “Mein Kampf”, but to date I have received no reply.

    I realize you are a very busy person, but could you please tell me if this “version” is accurate, or if there is actually an English version that is acurate?

    I would really like to know what AH was really saying!

    Believe me I have come to learn that not all is true, and to question everything!

    This is a direct result of being a Disabled US Army Veteran (injured “In The Line of Duty”), loyal to the “Republic” and the US Constitution, and having more than provable crimes committed against me by my Government/VA, and it’s employees that NOTHING was or is being done about!

    Since then I have seen so much treason by my so-called government that it makes me sick!

    Remember 9/11, and The USS Liberty, done by the same COWARDS!

    Restore The US Constitution!

    US “Republic” First, Always!

    US Army Veteran,
    Marc C. Daniele
    Herculaneum, Mo.

  16. Jupiter  September 7, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Re IQ, a team of Harvard academics once tried to assess the IQs of the greatest people in history, based on their life work. It concluded that Johann Goethe, poet, dramatist and scientist, had an IQ of 210!

    The highest was off the charts! He was Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772), who was a psychologist, philosopher, mathematician, geologist, inventor, metallurgist, minerologist, botanist, chemist, aurist, physicist, zoologist, aeronautical engineer, assayer, musician, author, traveler, crystallographer, instrument maker, machinist, cabinet maker, legislator, mining engineer, economist, editor, cosmologist, theologian (30 volumes of theology), lens grinder, psychist, clock maker, poet, linguist (learned Hebrew in 6 weeks!), biographer, reformer, astronomer, bookbinder, physiologist, and hydrographer!

    Swedenborg made the first sketch of a glider-type airplane, invented a submarine, machine gun, ear trumpet, an air-tight hot air stove, discovered function of the ductless glands, and that the brain animates synchronously with the lungs, wrote and published the first Swedish algebra book. He originated the nebular hypothesis of the solar system and explained the nature of the Milky Way.

    At age 56 he gave up the study of worldly science and became a seer and theological revelator. He could “go over to the other side” at will and reported what he saw and heard! He was called “the Aristotle of the North.”

  17. Carolyn Yeager  September 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    So Ingrid, who is meant by the interrogator named “Veterans Today?” If it’s you, why not use Rimland-Zundel, or RZ or something that refers to you? Is it because other VT staffers helped, or mostly did, improvise the questions? It’s a little confusing because, as you like to use much material from other people, we don’t always know what part of your articles are really you. I hope you can clear it up for this one.

    • Dr. Ingrid Rimland Zundel  September 7, 2011 at 6:21 pm

      Carolyn, please find yourself somebody else to pick on. It’s getting tiresome.

      I know that you are looking for a fight, but you are not going to get it from me. I am doing very important work on many different front, and I don’t have the time or energy for you.

      Please lay off. It’s not becoming.

    • Carolyn Yeager  September 7, 2011 at 9:24 pm

      Ingrid, I’m not picking on you. I really want an answer to my question. Will you not answer it?

    • Carolyn Yeager  September 8, 2011 at 9:43 am

      My purpose is to know whether Ingrid came up with all these questions herself; they don’t sound like her. It would be very simple for her to answer who came up with the questions and were they asked over the phone, say, or simply via email. It would take no longer than what she did write, saying she was too busy and I am picking a fight.

      No, I would not have said anymore once the question was answered. It’s a valid and credible question, but obviously unwelcome.

    • Jim W. Dean  September 9, 2011 at 1:27 pm

      What??…not Gordon??? 🙂

  18. Dr. Ingrid Rimland Zundel  September 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I can’t imagine who told you that 220 IQ score. When I was still practicing as a psychologist in schools and via private practice, there were only two standardized tests that my profession took seriously – the Stanford-Binet and the Wechsler. Neither one went over 180, as I remember it, and I have never found a kid who tested over 142 – and I specialized in gifted testing and had to my credit some 3,000 youngsters who passed through my hands. Do you mind revealing what kind of a “test” you took?

  19. rgalton  September 7, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    If you have an IQ of 220 keep it quiet or the DoD will try to get you in a lab for some ‘experiments’, or lock you down in a ‘think tank’.

    • Gordon Duff  September 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm

      certainly not me..i can’t even count that high by tens

  20. Michal  September 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Sieg Heil !!!

  21. Coffeecrimson  September 7, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Looks good to me. Can’t wait to see it.

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