Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War

The “Unthinkable” is Now Inevitable


By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

The total destruction of Israel, something used by the Zionist lobby to bilk the US out of billions for years, is no longer a dream, it is inevitable.  The only question is “when?”  With it a limited world war may emerge with some surprises in store.  It all started long ago but we can focus back one year when Israel murdered 9 Turkish citizens in an act of piracy, peace activists on an aid ship heading for Gaza.  Aid ships heading for Gaza now get a military escort from the Turkish Navy and Turkey’s president is heading for Gaza and Egypt now, to slap Israel down.

A year ago, Israel and Turkey were best of friends.  Their spy agencies in the US shared nuclear secrets, sold them to China, North Korea, Pakistan, Brazil, worked as partners blackmailing half of Washington’s army of corrupt officials and traitorous military officers.  Patriotism in Washington is rare nowadays, considered stupid.  Washington is all about “globalism” and “no borders,” about corporations, not “America.”  To most in Washington, America is a joke, a bankrupt “has been” nation drowning in debt with a military now useless, spread across the globe running errands for a cabal of international bankers.


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Until a week ago, the Turkish Army believed it had control of Turkey, despite the elected government.  Israel believed the same.  They were wrong.  A year ago, Israel believed Turkey would always be controlled because of their desire to join the European Union.  Now that dream is considered hopeless.  Who would want to join anyway, the EU is broke, falling apart and toothless.  Turkey, instead, is an economic powerhouse, outdistancing all but Germany in technology, productivity and science.

Turkey also has a huge army, a mobile army and a military tradition of relentlessness and, to be truthful, cruelty.  Israel has been pointing that out of late, how Turkey wiped out the Armenians, much as Israel is wiping out the Palestinians.  Problem is, Turkey’s army is big, highly disciplined, capable of supporting military operations across the entire Middle East, allied with Iraq, Iran and Egypt and considers Israel’s killings of Turkish citizens last year as an act of war.

This leaves only America or Israel’s nuclear weapons to protect them.


Paid stooges in Washington talk about Israel’s strategic importance to the US.  That’s a dream, much as the strength of Israel’s army is a dream.  There are two strategic allies in the Middle East, Egypt with their control of the Suez Canal and Turkey with their control of the Bosporus, the only gateway to the Black Sea, something of immense value to the US.  Turkey is also the gateway for oil from Central Asia and Northern Iraq.

Another factor is Kurdistan.  Israel has controlled the PKK, the communist terror group that has killed thousands in Turkey.  Israel is threatening to unleash them again.  In meetings with leaders in Iraq, however, I was told that Turkish military actions against the PKK, even inside Iraq were welcomed.  Kurds in Iraq hate the PKK and have long seen it as destructive.  Northern Iraq is closely aligned with Turkey, their economy is totally dependent on Turkey, much more than Baghdad.  Hopes for a Kurdish nation are dependent on good relations with Turkey and those relations have improved continually for some time. 

One reality is the weakness of Egypt.  The Mubarak government, including the military and intelligence services worked closely with Israel as did those of Turkey.  It is Israel’s goal to keep Egypt in line.  However, with the killing of 5 Egyptian police and the protestors sacking the Israeli embassy in Cairo, that is coming into question. 

Israel still has considerable resources in place in Egypt, particularly as we saw on August 11th, 2011, when Bush/Bechtel “envoy” David Welch met with Israeli and Gaddafi representatives in Cairo, at the Four Seasons Hotel, CIA and Egyptian spies in the room, planning bribes to be paid to journalists and “peace activists” in a last ditch attempt to save another Israeli ally, Gaddafi.

Thus, Turkey will be doing a “road trip” to gain allies against Israel and to flank US backing, blackmailing the US.  As Turkey has nearly all US nuclear secrets, gotten through their spy partnership with AIPAC, something we were told of when I interviewed FBI informants within the Bush White House, they have things to trade.  Turkey can turn out thermonuclear weapons quickly.

Israel’s counter is their partnership with India.  India is building long range ICBMs, capable of carrying 10 warheads, also capable of reaching the United States.  Israel has requested 10 of those missiles, giving them the capability of hitting the United States with 100 hydrogen bombs.  This is not conjecture, this deal with India has been confirmed, the weapons are being built with US technology stolen by Israel (and Turkey) and Pakistan has spies working inside every aspect of the project, no secret to anyone.

China is also aware and they believe they are a potential target of these Indian weapons.  Thus, China is transferring advanced technologies, not only thermonuclear but advanced aircraft designs and missile technology to Pakistan. 

In reality, from a military standpoint, India overshadows Pakistan by a mile.However, with the US in economic decline and dependent on China to buy US debt, betting against China and their close relationship to Pakistan is inadvisable.  Pakistan represents China’s foothold in Central Asia and their access to a port, Gwadar, in the Indian Ocean. 

China is dependent on oil from the region and sees the Indian Ocean as an area of strategic value.Pakistan is taking advantage of that.Russia is laughing themselves to death.  They helped set up America to fall in Afghanistan, payback for America’s support of the Mujahideen and are enraged at the CIA and US military for its role in flooding Russia with cheap heroin from Afghanistan. 

Heroin is destroying the social fabric of Russia nearly as much as drug profits that have infected the US political system have destabilized the US, left the Mexican border totally open and kept the US in Afghanistan as guardians of the largest opium den in the world.

The changes we will see?

Libya’s new government is more than aware of Israel’s interference on behalf of Gaddafi and will become a relentless enemy of Israel, despite false reports Israel has inserted into the “fringe media.”  Egypt is in play.  Things could go either way, depending on how meetings go this week with Turkey. 

With the UN vote on Gaza a given, the US will veto Palestinan statehood, Egypt and Turkey will be pushed together as US prestige in the region crashes.Israel’s reaction under its repressive and reactionary Likudist regime, under attack at home for economic failures, one after the other, will be to push for military action against Gaza. 

They may also wish to “play” in Lebanon, taking advantage of Syria’s current weakness.  This would be a mistake.  Syria will not “go down in flames” like the Gaddafi regime.  They are too vulnerable and will lose their place at the table, offset by Turkey, a nation that has an unpleasant history in the region lasting hundreds of years, a reputation Turkey is now trying to repair.

This could also go either way.  Israel still has nuclear weapons.  Their “nuclear advantage” in the Middle East is now likely to make them a target.

Turkey’s army is more than a match for Israel, not even close.  There is little expectation that Egypt will do more than posture as their military under Mubarak became a defensive force only, infiltrated, as is Turkey’s, with corrupt officers.

What will happen?

Israel, with all its planning, its “possible involvement” in 9/11, its very proven involvement in the 2003 invasion of Iraq and its machinations in, not just Washington but Cairo, Ankara and other capitols across the region, is the big loser.  Israel is now totally isolated and very much considered sacrificable by the US, despite continual pronouncements by members of congress otherwise.


When Israel had to turn against the Democrats, despite the fact that 79% of American Jews support the Democratic Party, and turn to the GOP and Christian Zionists for support, they bought “friends” they would never be able to trust. 

For years, American conservatives were known to hate Jews, ban them from organizations, maintain “no Jews allowed” policies at resorts and “ritzy” neighborhoods, under the euphemism of “restricted.”

Red States were always “no Jews or Niggers allowed after sundown.”

This may not be taught in history books but it is real history just the same and the generation of American Jews that remember real antisemitism, not the phony “Abe Foxman” kind, know who their real friends are.


Turkey, not Iran, will be forced to go nuclear. Turkey, however, is a long time American ally, a charter member of NATO and, at heart, very pro-American, pro-Western and, as it were, sitting on the world’s most strategic real estate.

Turkey is also a relentless enemy, one Israel will be too stupid to apologize to, too stupid to make reparations to and will depend on its nuclear arsenal and friends in the US for protection.

Nobody will benefit from this, not the Palestinian people, not Egypt, only those who wish to see Israel have their faces in the dirt.  There is a problem with this.  There was some hope that Israel itself might have a rebirth of democracy, with 500,000 demonstrators demanding the resignation of Netanyahu’s ultra-nationalist government last week, their was a hope.

The other big loser will be the United States.  Pakistan will bring China into Central Asia.  Turkey may well bring them into the Mediterranean or further.




Whether American’s choose to recognize it or not, Bush murdered America’s military future.  Social cuts and job programs won’t be enough.  America will have to gut its military and withdraw from its bases around the world, that or economically die in less than 5 years.

The only other way out is “debt denial” which requires full cooperation from China and Japan.  In light of these issues, these problems, Israel, that “small country” that has so much control over the US government will wake up one morning a forgotten “backwater” in world affairs.

Back in 1981, it looked like Israel would be a peaceful neighbor in a Middle East destined to move forward, maybe not to freely elected governments but at least to no longer be a sideshow for the Cold War.

There were lessons from 1981, when Jews visited Cairo as honored guests. 

500,000 Israeli’s, homeless, underemployed, say they can no longer afford, even with the billions America is giving them, to try to run the world from a few acres of sand, now farmed by foreign workers.

If Israel’s extremist government continues its fear mongering, helped along by AIPAC and the ADL in the United States, Israel will not survive.  Israel will not die alone, not by a long shot.  The problem is that there is no political leader in Israel or within the Zionist community in the United States that seems to care.

The dreams of world domination, as some of us have always seen, never left room for the survival of Israel or any other nation.

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223 Responses to "Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War"

  1. The End Of Zionism  November 3, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    this is what i dream about every night,the end of the Jewish race as we know it,lets pray Israel is stupid enough to attack Iran,they will have lit the fuse to their own demise..finally Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth..the middle east was always a bad place to call home

  2. James P. Evanhoe  October 28, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    James P. Evanhoe
    Could this be true? Based upon the points made for them to be true YES.
    Remember when it comes to Oil Prices, War and Political Leaders, things
    just do not happen…..they are absolutely “Let to Happen” or “Created”,
    but they just do not happen on this large of scale. But it wouldn’t be just
    the two leaders of Iran & Israel, Cheney & Bush would be involved as well.
    Remember it doesn’t matter to them how many civilians, families, children
    are killed, or how many US Soldiers are killed. It is all about MONEY, their
    perverted lust .
    You are right the price of Oil is low, but Exxon Mobil Third-Quarter Profit
    Tops $10 Billion on Crude Oil ..Bloomberg By Joe Carroll – Thu Oct 27
    20:10:06 GMT 2011 Exxon’s quarterly profits exceeded $10 billion for
    three consecutive periods. “BUT”
    Greed by all involved out weighs human lives. This would even help
    Obama if the War lasted until the elections. Bush & Cheney are facing
    criminal War related charges globally and will eventually be charged and
    convicted right here in the USA. All have much to loses if Peace
    continues. And believe me the Weapons Manufacturers would be
    the first to sponsoring the Cocktail Parties to make sure WAR does happen.
    GOOD WORK> Gordon Duff, Editor and Jim.W. Dean with Mike Harris
    You could have just saved a million lives and huge gas hikes from
    happening. This needs to go out to Everyone, Right and Left wing Blogs,
    Your Congressman, Representatives. Remember who ever stood to gain from
    this was absolutely involved, in fact they mostly recommended the War to
    Iran and Israeli Leaders. There initials D.C. & G.B.Sr. and with B.R. blessings.
    But to be real, none of them have the right to kill families and soldiers for their
    political gain or for personal profit or their perverted soles. If this does happen
    those who created it are no better than Hitler and need to be Charged Convicted
    and Hanged,
    That goes for Bush, Cheney and Rothschild, I be glad to pull the arm at the
    gallows and see them all hang. If you really think about all the Wars they
    have created around the World, our Nation is no better off. Bush, Cheney and
    Barron Rothschild (perverts), beware your next in line to be hung, that’s a promise!
    James P. Evanhoe
    I guess the next door neighbor of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was here
    last summer and the two Israeli Massod Agents against War were right,
    Dick Cheney, George Bush SR. & Barron Rothschild were planning a War
    with Iran & factions inside of Israel! If they know where DC, GB & BR live
    and they do, they will eventually get them! It is called what comes around
    goes around….God in the End will kill them all!

  3. mystic  October 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Amen to that. Their only retaliation in any “debate” is the boring (yawn) accusation of being “antisemitic”. Given Israel’s barbarism in the name of “Judaism”, who would not be proud of being antisemitic? The rubbishy state of gangsters and racists is now the pariah of the world.

  4. dirt  October 1, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    ELF frequency, they all know. Soviets, USA, UK, maybe Germany.

  5. dirt  October 1, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    BS, Israel is the NAVY intel.

  6. dirt  October 1, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Let this fact illustrate, it would take six medium hydrogen bombs to destroy the population of Russia and China. Six……..that’s it. It’s all in the wind. Teller was “I am become death”, Oppenheimer mispoke.

  7. my2cents  October 1, 2011 at 5:18 am

    and goverment decided to build two neclear plants suddenly in Turkey. all prerequisites have been met for for the plants. they are now being built, maybe that is related to the claims here

  8. my2cents  September 30, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    good night everyone!!! I tried to take a look what people have written, as to what has been said about Turkey. is nearly right but we have a democratic-islamic Leader in power, and he has huge support from great majority of people in Turkey ( I did not vote for him :b) . Things are not the same with Israil as it used to be in the past. Most people in Turkey hate Israil now, it is not because they killed the people in the boat but they support PKK in Turkey. now in Turkey PKK kidnaps teachers and bombs civilians. nearly everyday one innocent person is being killed. people think now ‘Enough is Enough’ Believe me They are ready for everything even for a war. in Turkey Israil is considered to be ‘the spoiled Child’ underprotection of US.

    I do not claim what I have written is right or wrong, I just tried to tell you the atmosphere in my country.

    Info ‘ Military (secularist) hate the president (islamic) in Turkey.

  9. Hamid  September 30, 2011 at 5:35 am

    It’s quite incredible to see so many people here with such twisted viewpoints – on both sides of this issue.

    Really – get a life.

  10. rodolfo  September 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Are you a jewess?? Or are you simply a stupid, ignorant, blind idiot who can’t see beyond the point of your nose, because your little narrow brain is full zionist controlled media indoctrination. “delusional and psychotic” indeed….what an opinionated jerk…go learn history of the real kind!!! and stop spewing simplistic Pablum to comfort yourself. Grow up!! Be a woman!!

  11. Chris  September 28, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Dr. Alan Sabrosky – The Military KNOWS Israel did 911 – Interview

  12. Human  September 22, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Lets stop these maniacs now!!! or its will be too late.

    Where are the real men in this world??

    Wake up now!!

  13. Bud  September 21, 2011 at 8:39 am

    They were unarmed you idiot. Israel is a Bolshevik state of murderers founded by the inventers of central bank control. You will not win the argument.

  14. Patricia  September 20, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Having come across this article and comments, I am amazed at how delusional and psychotic the respondants are. Your Jewphobia consumes your lives. I pity you.

  15. El_Turco  September 20, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    We Muslims are against racism. This is forbidden in our relagion.

    We again are not anti-semitic as they say, but we are anti-jew because of their abnormal believes.
    Because of their wrong believes, they will put world into a fire again sooner (I fear) like in WW1 & WW2

    And do you know why we Muslims are so angry at you Americans?
    Because some of you support them in all manners & most of you just watch the situation & don’t say any words.

    Quran denounces Jews because of their seditious acts & killing of Prophets, falsifying the holy Tawrat & implementation of interest (which creates economic crises always). Do you know why? You sate cannot create money. It has to borrow from FED in ruetırn of interest.

    Think that you are in an island. No money, just barter. One day, a Jew comes & offer you a better mean of change. He creates 1000 $ & give you for 1 year to pay back as 1100$ at the end. Can you guess what will happen? Yes, exactly! you cannot pay your money because there is not enough money in he world! Do you know, by these way jewish bankers create 8-9 times more securities than real money in the sistem & lend this non-real money for high rates. It is stated that total world economy is about 65-70 triilion$ but total securities, shares etc is about 400 trillion or more. How? How we can now? Those are holy race of Jews!

    Don’t you see you lost 5 trillion dollars during last 10 years…


  16. Ben  September 20, 2011 at 8:06 am

    A fitting ‘homeland’ for certain……………

  17. Ben  September 20, 2011 at 7:54 am

    With ‘friends’ like them, we certainly have more than enough enemies…..

  18. Ben  September 20, 2011 at 7:19 am

    I doubt they have any ‘friends’, their behavior would prevent most from liking them…..they DO have numerous sources of extorted funds though, with America bearing the largest brunt of the extortion……

  19. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    The Vatican always was a creation of the ashkenazi jews. They had to murder the true Christian dynasty (Dagobert I and II) and pull off one of their magic shows so that the great majority of Christians were not aware of it what had happened. Details of this can be found in the book ‘Holy Blood Holy Grail’, but this is precisely the history that has been most thoroughly hidden. You have to go back to religious scholars who wrote during the years 300-900 AD to learn about it. Fortunately, nature turns all evil to good, and the Roman Catholic Church eventually provided a structure for learning, teaching, health care and orphanages that we could really use today, but that only happened after the true Christian descendants took control of it for a while during the Renaissance. It is very difficult to put labels on any group or religious or political structure because they morph into their opposites as time goes by. The finger pointing should always be at ourselves.

  20. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    I keep hearing this, and you know what…after you get rid of all the churches and all the religions and all the religious books, guess what…the Bankers will still come up with a reason to convince us to kill each other so that they can profit. Be careful what you get rid of…unless you are really sure about what will replace it.

  21. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:28 pm


  22. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Shame on you for saying such things. Be careful what you wish on others, you may find that your curses are returned to you.

  23. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    I know I’ll get slammed for saying this, but yes we do have a civilization, though it is not necessarily in any one physical place. It’s based on the teaching that we should Do Unto Others As We Would Have Them Do Unto Us, or Christianity for short. It’s very unfashionable these days to claim this, but people who hold onto these teachings are a nation, a worldwide nation, and it would include any other name that people put on this philosophy in their part of the world. Europe was known as Christendom before the Jews took over the printing presses.

  24. beausoleil  September 19, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    If you read the entire bible from beginning to end, you’ll find references in the New Testament that go back to the Old Testament, and you need all of it in order to understand fully. The hints and clues, in order to be deciphered, require a full reading. When you get to the books of Samuel you can read the most blatant propaganda that tries desperately to justify the righteousness of King Solomon and King David, but there is no way, in spite of all the words written, that anyone can find any righteousness in those murdering, thieving, genocidal individuals and their illegitimate rule.

    There is the lesson for us though, that we should understand the real meaning behind the words of propaganda, and that some words are written under dire censorship and the writer is trying to tell us the truth by using exaggeration and dropping hints. Jesus says that unless our righteousness is above and beyond that of the scribes and prophets, we will not enter the kingdom of god. With a full and complete reading, a huge task I know, one comes to understand that the Promised Land is not necessarily the Middle East. The descriptions given of the New Jerusalem correspond more closely to a description of America. It is clear that the Temple spoken of in the Old Testament is a spiritual temple within each and everyone of us. ‘God’ did not want his people to have a King and ‘he’ warned the Israelites that a King would only end up enslaving them. The covenant of righteousness must be written in our hearts and not imposed upon us by any religious hierarchy. It says clearly that those who Rule must serve. Anyone who tries to raise himself up as a superior being will be cast down. These are the main messages. But the Bible also contains military strategy, the main one of interest to us now is a passage describing how the Tribe of Judah, in one of it’s many attempts to genocide the Tribe of Benjamin, lured the Benjamite warriors away from their homes to fight. But the tribe of Judah, in it’s usual deceitful way, went back around and torched the defenseless women, children and old people of the Benjamites and killed all of them. This is a warning to not abandon the home turf in making war, because it’s a ruse. While our military is abroad, we at home are defenseless. That’s the plan. And it only works if we don’t know about the strategy. The only way to know about the strategy is to read the Bible. But the Bible and Christianity have been maligned and attacked, to make sure that we don’t learn these lessons, to make sure that Christians world-wide don’t unite, and this includes other people who may not call themselves Christian but whose values are similar to those taught by Christ. The belief in Christ is essential because it puts in a calmer and more secure frame of mind, where we are less likely to get sick, less likely to panic, more likely to believe that we are safe. Much of the propaganda strategy being used against us is designed to make us feel hopeless, weak and fearful. There is ample scientific evidence to support that feelings of security help our immune system to function properly.

    With the Bible, it doesn’t even matter that the stories aren’t ‘true’, it’s the lessons within the stories that we need to learn. It is especially interesting to note that the Holy Mount was specifically given to the Tribe of Benjamin. It says specifically that the Temple can only be built by the Tribe of Benjamin. There are many indications that Jesus was of the Tribe of Benjamin, and his birth therefore implicated the Tribe of Judah in falsifiying the scripture. Jesus was particularly angry at the Scribes…one can only presume that the Scribes were guilty of changing scripture, what else could they have been guilty of. Jesus also quoted the Talmud a couple of times and spoke out specifically against it. The sign on the crucifix read, “King of Judea”, not ‘King of the Jews”. Big, big difference.

  25. josef zach  September 19, 2011 at 6:43 am

    Occupied Palestine was established by the Rothschild Banking Concern to have an international sovereign base. it has succeeded beyond their wildest expectations.

    Zionists helped greatly in the public murder of JFK because of:

    #1 JFK just began to issue United States Notes, paper money without interest to be paid to the NON-Federal Reserve Bank

    and #2 to allow Occupied Palestine to secure nuclear weapons.

    other agendas were advanced with JFK’s public murder as well, but the two aforementioned were primary causes.

    Yes the military got their Vietnam War

    Yes the American Oil Barons got their Oil Depletion Allowance back

    Yes the unions lost a strong supporter and suffered decline in negotiation powers with Corporate America

    but the PRIMARY purposes were #1 and #2

    that said, the ONLY world wide threat to human existence is to be located in Occupied Palestine. those inbred, mentally diseased, sociopathic or psychopathic creatures who masquerade as Biblical Jews. those things are most ready to launch massive destruction to get their way .

    another quick example, the Shrine of the Jew thing that massacred dozen of Arabs as they kneeled down praying to Allah. he did his murder with an Uzi with a number of hand grenades.

    his Shrine has many Jew things praying there 24/7 52 weeks a year.

    MORE clear than mere words. this murderer is worshipped as a Great Prophet.

    what will happen WILL happen,

    My only hope is that I ***KNOW*** Evil is Stupid.

    Evil always self destructs.

    only problem is that Evil nearly always takes down a lot of good people when it finally does an Epic Fail.

    “nuff said.

    those creatures are the only actual threat to humanity.

    btw, due to their obsessive announcements of their superiority over the rest of humanity, they THEMSELVES clearly state that they are NOT human. not like the rest of us.

    think Menachim Begin’s speech about the “cattle” and the Jew’s obligation to rule over them. where goyim are ” beats that walk on two legs & have no souls”.

    a racist swine can’t state racist hate more clearly than that.

  26. IndianaJohn  September 18, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Virg, — very simple; an armed society is a polite society.

  27. Matthew  September 18, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    So you’re referring to future prophecies and not past ones? Well, let’s just see what God said about ‘future’ prophecies, shall we?
    “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.” -Matthew 23:38-39.
    So God declared that He has removed Himself from the Jews and the Jew’s Spiritual House will remain desolate of His Spirit untill the Jews Bless everyone who comes in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh. (See John chapter one, in regards to Jesus being God in the flesh) This was a future prophecy, because in context the word ‘henceforth’ means, ‘from this moment on’. If you are as educated on your own people as you should be, then you know every Zionist Jew is taught from the Talmud, which is a Babylonian book the Zionist Jews took, added to and claimed as their own. You should also note this Holy Talmud teaches that the Lord is, for all eternity, in Hell and trapped in a pit of boiling semen. That doesn’t seem like you Zionist Jews are saying “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord”!

    I also noticed you mentioned something along the lines of “what OUR God wants”. Well, let’s just see what the One True God said about YOUR god.
    “Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” -John 8:41-47.

    So, you are correct in the statement you made earlier. You are infact doing exactly what “your god” wants you to do; because you’re god is the devil, that ol’ Serpant, Lucifer. Or as your holy book the Talmud calls him, “Moloch”.

  28. Pedro G  September 18, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Surely now is the time for normal sane and healthy folks from the community to pick up the reins of responsibility and authority, because at the moment all I see is evidence of psychopathic, traitorous or psychologically damaged individuals in positions which they should not be in. The globalists keep us busy while they have all the time and money to implement their fascist plans, so now is the time to stop being so tactical and step back for a bit of strategic action in making a positive difference

  29. simon l jeffery  September 17, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Do we really need religion, that has caused so much suffering in the name of whomsoevers god it happens to be at the time? Let’s just be people and greet each other with a smile and kind words.. Religious piousity is the sickness that this world is suffering from. I for one would not advocate exploding myself and countless innocents to get to “paradise” with however many virgins that are being bandied about. My great aunt is still a virgin and she’s 87 so good luck to the the young lads who kill themselves to sleep with her. Shes also a lesbian so double bad news in paradise for them. Stop the brainwashers in the wrong side of Islam! I have huge respect for religious freedom but not when it leads to killing..!

  30. simon l jeffery  September 17, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    propaganda again!!! I for one am sick of it..Just meet the people, shake hands, have a beer and mellow out. 🙂

  31. Del Rainer  September 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    To gain the perspective of relativity on the planetary cleansing taking place, check out the channelings from Galactica that have come thru Allen Michael for over 50 years.

  32. White Indian  September 16, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    The Samson Option Still Threatens the World
    Carol Moore | December 2009

  33. Virg  September 16, 2011 at 9:25 am

    LOL!! Excellent question!

    How can we have a civilization with countries proposing to throw nuclear bombs at each other?

  34. 3AM  September 16, 2011 at 5:53 am

    To Todd:
    Dear friend let me ask you a question. Do you believe that half a truth is the truth? It seems like Gordon is in deep love with the King of the North which is NATO. According to him the problem is Israel rather then NATO. Anyhow I would leave to every member of this forum to draw his or her own conclusion based on the evidence.
    Just to add that Jesuit operative Malachi Martin in his book “The keys of this blood” while discussing global geopolitical situation gives full list of the “rogue states” that need to be dismantled in order to usher into the NWO with the Vatican as the supreme religious-political power backed up by the USA and EU military machine which is NATO. And guess what the state of Israel is there. It seems like Gordon is pretty much towing the line. I hope its out of ignorance.

  35. 3AM  September 16, 2011 at 5:16 am

    To Genie:
    “inventor and creator of Israel which is Rothschild, yes” No. Statement is totally wrong. The creator of the modern Israeli state is no one else than Vatican. Vatican has been ever since the greatest contender for Jerusalem because of its religious significance. 150 years long Vatican’s middle age crusade failed to achieve that objective however the plan has never changed just like those who mastermind it. Just consider this short excerpt from “secret briefings ” from 1988 and compare it with the current situation in North Africa.
    Somehow the Vatican had to create a weapon to eliminate both the Jews and the true Christian believers ( in other words those who opposed its power) who refused to bow down into submission to the Pope . Looking to North Africa, they saw the multitudes of Arabs as a source of manpower to do their dirty work.

  36. sarah  September 16, 2011 at 2:13 am


    we are talking about future prophecies not the past ones.

  37. Virg  September 15, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    “… more corectry what our GOD wants. just read the bible its all there. no need for conspiracy.”

    “Our God”? I thought you Jews believed you are gods. Here’s what the Bible says of the Jews:

    “I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of THOSE WHO SAY THEY ARE JEWS AND ARE NOT, BUT ARE A SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.” Rev. 2:9

    God drove the “Jews” off the land – Israel about 450 B.C. and Judah in 70 A.D. – for their disobedience and idolatry. They were warned and chose not to heed the warnings.

    “The Abrahamic Covenant is still in force, it is an everlasting covenant. And by its terms God promised to give the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed as an everlasting possession. And someday God will redeem that promise and bring it to pass. But, the Abrahamic Covenant was based on faith, on justification by faith, and the present inhabitants of the land have returned in unbelief. So the true Israel of God, those who have the faith of Abraham, (Galatians 3:7,9,29) those who believe in Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, wait like Abraham, for that glorious time in Messiah’s Day when they will possess the land forever in righteousness and peace. Today the land is still under God’s curse. It is wracked with bloodshed, violence, and destruction. It is a land of great wickedness and immorality. This is not the fulfillment of God’s purposes with his people under the Abrahamic Covenant, but a perversion of it.”

  38. Tina  September 15, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Sarah, the Bible says not one stone will be left upon another in Israel. God’s own words. Don’t worry though, God made a another place for you to live, its called hell.

  39. Todd Boyle  September 15, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Thank you Gordon Duff. Truthteller. Keep doing it!

  40. GaryL  September 15, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Gordon, a well-constructed assessment.

    It’s fascinating to watch those caught up in the various memes, and quite unfortunate that the vast majority of these people will fail to take a higher road by refusing to comply with their “controllers.” We’re witnessing a time in history where, once again, the psychopaths (in their various forms) are in charge and have fostered extreme paramoralism across all fronts, thereby creating a collection of pathocracies across the world. Unless people in all camps learn to stand in their own power and say “NO” we’ll live to witness humanity driven over the cliff.

    Former GySgt, USMC

  41. Tom  September 15, 2011 at 9:20 am

    The truest words that I have read in a long while. I DESPAIR at the immaturity that is prevailent. GROW UP.

  42. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:54 am

    The New Jerusalum is RIGHT here in the USA 🙂

  43. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:52 am

    An EMP Pulse for Israel before they false flag it against USA in league with their ‘fellow travelers” American traitors,they will still have their subs for deterrent, but with the full combined arsenal Israel maybe to confident as the chosen psychotics,
    Interesting in most Countries at least if a typical Citizen went and saw a psychiatrist( a good one) and conveyed they had a religious or spiritual enlightenment or an utterly self-assured complete world view that they were “Chosen” or innately superior to all other Humans/Persons/People/ and that they even had the status of being able to present arguments to God and change his mind, plus if they listed in a general manner the whole mindset of the Talmud, a good qualified psychiatrist would be subscribing some anti-psychotics and considered some form of self-righteous psychopath,
    However in Israel and in some Communities elsewhere they are referred to as Orthodox Rabbis,
    go figure

  44. Wally58  September 15, 2011 at 6:49 am

    When Christ Yeshua returns to that region, first thing He’s gonna do is nuke it and make it a parking lot. I certinaly hope so anyway. The New Jerusalum is RIGHT here in the USA, not in the land of the dune coon Israelis. Or otherwise known as the Edomites in Christ’s time. Read John 8:44-46 to see whom these folks REALLY are and WHERE they came from.

  45. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:40 am

    would of been find with Stalin or Lenin or the Cheney

  46. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:39 am

    don’t you agree that Russia,China,America ,all 3 are not interested to say the least in India & Israel both having MIRV Hydrogen Nuke missiles, hopefully something can be worked out and we can have a drawn down from the state of “the Forever Wars” and put our own Country back together,
    Lots of criminals in D.C. & Wallstreet & elsewhere like many Judges need to go to PRISON for the beginning of Justice and restitution for Mega levels of theft & fraud & looting of the National Treasury,State & County Treasuries as well as reducing & revamping all of the Bolshevik Autocracies going hog wild on our Citizenry & Economy
    LIke weirdo Control freak fascist Cass Sunstein , a creepy ,creepy guy, who would of been find with Stalin or Lenin or the Cheney

  47. Edwin Baker  September 15, 2011 at 6:34 am

    “People are the pawns no matter which side they choose.” I agree Gabriel.

    Powers have been concentrated to a minority of global parasites. They buy, sell, and trade on human manupulation. They ensure yes men” are financed to opinion controlling platforms so nothing changes.

    Globalists have declared war on humanity and no-one is in the position to stop them.

    I wouldn’t be surprised with nuclear war at all.

    Our own (corporate sponsored) politicians already proved they owe no loyalty to country or citizen. It;s not difficult to track down the true rats in society amid their propaganda but society has their hands tied by a group of corporations who continue to develop anti-humana laws and legislation.

    Humans are undeniably the worst thing that happened to nature. When we go extinct, things will start to improve.

  48. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:23 am

    Rabbit, Correct

  49. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:15 am

    which Bible are you referring to,specifically what text of what portion of which book,chapter,script are you referring to, most curious,please respond , if you are qualified or knowledgeable enough to do so,
    if you are not knowledgeable enough, I’ll understand
    thank you

  50. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 6:01 am

  51. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 5:57 am

    sarah or sam,

  52. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 5:56 am

  53. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 15, 2011 at 5:39 am

    sarah, mark the words of a reptile

  54. sarah  September 15, 2011 at 4:16 am

    “The root cause in a vile perversion of the original Hebrew tradition, called Talmudism and it will fall with Israel, mark my words”.

    mark the words of a rabbit.

  55. sarah  September 15, 2011 at 2:30 am

    there is no conspiracy in what the jews want., or more corectry what our GOD wants. just read the bible its all there. no need for conspiracy.
    however you can use consiracy but that will not change the fact that you are an enemy of israel.

  56. Ross  September 15, 2011 at 1:20 am

    It is sheer fantasy to construe the ‘peace activists’ as without guile and having no hostile intentions.

    Also – when you write in reply ‘However, we also discovered the audio recordings and videos submitted by Israel were falsified. Israel had people walking through walls.’

    any proof to go with that? Sources (neither Turk nor palestinian’ please)

  57. Torsten  September 14, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Gordon Duff, some good theorizing about alliances. Last I heard, several years ago Israel had, it was estimated, 100 nukes. This might be propaganda, but they could. Several weeks ago in what seemed like reliable reporting (on Drudge) with photos, Israel had 3 nulear subs and were working on 3 more. I believe it was projected to take a few years before they had these last three ready to go. Probably will happen much much faster now. I doubt that the Turks can go nuclear in the immediated future which gives Israel time.
    The book I am reading at the moment, ‘Muslim Mafia,’ I’m about 40% thru. The Muslim Brotherhood is a fundamentalist Islamic organization. Funtamentalist = sharia ‘law,’ kill the infidels, and lie (plenty of propaganda) to help the Islamic cause. They are moving to consoladate power all across northern Africa. They hate Israel.
    Peter Duff is not reliable on 3 counts: (1) His statement that the Jews were a part in the world trade center attacks, undoubtedly rubbish. (2) The title is sensationalistic: “The “Unthinkable” is Now Inevitable” (3) Israel murdered, “murdered 9 Turkish citizens in an act of piracy, peace activists on an aid ship….” The other side of the story is that the occupents of the vessel attacked the Israel soldiers who bordered the ship to search it. The ship was attempting to circumvent and violate the blockade. Israel has caught even Arafat attempting to smuggle in arms. I believe the article said there were long range rockets on board. Always a lot of propaganda floating around. Who knows. One thing that is for certain, Turkey was already getting hostile to Israel; probably due to Islamofascists (the military) within Turkey pushing for this and threatening the ruling regime.
    So now we have the three biggest countries in the area against Israel: Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and of course there is Syria, and probably Lebanon. The only one who seems to be quiet is Jordon. Then there is also Iraq, which the weak USA seems to have lost control of, little Kuwait that seems to be running against US interests, AND the big money Arabs, the Saudis who need US dollars (even as they are sinking in value) and who are the principle financers of Wahabianism all over the western countries including the US. They pay for mosques, lawyers, propaganda distribution, bribery, err, campaign contributions, etc. Most of the WTC attackers, as you know were Saudis.

  58. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Gordon Duff,
    it does seem to be a close match which government is more corrupt,
    example, the current job Czar is busy sending more of American manufacturing overseas,
    Plus we are staring down the barrel of Nafta 2, The Pacific-Asian Nafta2 to hurry up and finish off our industry & manufacturing,
    We will have the epa,fda,dhs, make sure we can’t even produce our own food,
    NON Corporate Cartel Ranchers,Farmers,Dairies are being harassed for things like “HAY” as a pollutant or contamination,fda moving to wipe out the vitamins /health food supplements as is the desire of the pharma lobby from hell

  59. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Gordon Duff,
    why do you suggest Jews ( Southern Khazaria” ) have a “DNA commnality ” with other studies of earlier pro-hominid populations…Neanderthals.

    From someone else that would seem to be a slur or an insult,

    brief response please

  60. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Israelis are taking over Argentina,
    how many want another trustworthy Zisrael
    in South America ?

  61. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    we love america and appreciate the friendship very much.
    ADL,AIPAC,JDL,etc. and everything they have done and are doing and involved in,
    yes we can feel the love

  62. Genie  September 14, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Israeli leaders do not make things up as they go along depending on the leader, they are under the authority of the inventer and creator of Israel which is Rothschild, yes? Has has anything ever improved for Palestinians, the ME or the world since the birth of the monster nation? It only gets worse…but even there is a plan in that…yes?

  63. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    The Branch,
    As long as America, Russia and China refuse to go to war with each other, civilization will survive.


  64. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    sarah or bill or tom ,whoever,
    we have all long felt that “LOVE”

    In the Talmud it is forbidden for a Talmudist to apologize to a Goyim,that and and so much more

    No wonder so many of you are nuts

    • 1950s & ’60s: The foreign intelligence division of Stasi, Communist East Germany’s secret police apparatus, infiltrates spies into West Germany to pose as “neo-Nazis engaged in anti-Semitic vandalism,” a psy-ops campaign organized by Stasi spy-master Markus Wolf—a Jew. ADL director Benjamin R. Epstein follows through by traveling to Germany and advocating long-term Stalinist “re-education” for West Germans. In other words this is just the Jew World Empire performing a “pretext operation” so it can further torment people it hates (Joseph P. Kamp, The Bigots Behind the Swastika Spree (New York: Headlines, 1960); Michael Kallenbach, Stasi Files reveal links to anti-Semitic attacks in former West Germany, 12 March 1993 Jewish Chronicle (UK))

  65. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    If you analysed the 6-days war etc, you will find strange coincidences – inexplicable but wholly possible if you account for supernatural intervention!


  66. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Israel has requested 10 of those missiles, giving them the capability of hitting the United States with 100 hydrogen bombs.

    Is anybody in the U.S. Command concerned about Israel getting these missiles ????????
    Is it irrational or “antisemitic” lol based on everything Israel does and says that this should be considered untenable?????
    Is Germany going to stop building submarines for the Israeli Government??????

  67. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    sarah or bill or tom ,whoever,
    any response about Israeli annointed “Saint Pollard”

  68. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Many Americans considered the previous President as worse than useless,
    so provided there is a lunatic Neo-Scofield-delusional-Zionistz Administration in D.C. then the U.S. Government is useful for Israel and their Talmudist agenda, (including the actual map Zisrael is determined to have)
    Americans are more concerned with having an American Centric Administration and American Administration that is useful to Americans,which we haven’t had since the ZEEs murdered J.F.K.

    July 5 1963/Dimona November 22, 1963

    Not everyone considers it normal to jump hoops for Israel and Israel has received vast amounts of aid from America,and Zisrael still scams money from various Countries for the contrived holohoax,
    (in case you haven’t noticed a few people besides Jews have been persecuted and killed as well,
    In WW2 Zionists Jews colloborated in the persecution of Jews in WW2 , after Germany almost starved to Death for a couple of years due to the Jewish global boycott of German goods,
    then the Balfour agreement which extended WW1 by 3 years and dragged America into that War, all this so
    Talmudists lunatics could get Palestine, even though they were originally fron the Kingdom of Khazaria and converted or converted noninally to Judiasm in 750 AD, which easily explains the blatant lie that the Ashkenazi were returning to their homeland aft 2000 years, fraud, lie, total distortion of history,
    shall we discuss some of the interesting passages,writings of the Talmud or discuss the form of weird Religion that the Khazari Kingdom practiced?

    yes I do get your view of the American government , it is normal for the American Government to be subservient to Israel and it is perhaps a little shocking that many and many more by the day do not see that as Normal

  69. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I have seen to many videos put out by Israelis and there opinions were very clear

  70. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    not being called an ungrateful ally earlier by Gates is not the same as not being an ungrateful ally, many had reached that conclusion much earlier ,easy to do by objective
    observance and being aware of what all Zisrael has done

  71. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    not being called an ungrateful ally earlier by Gates is not the same as not being an ungrateful ally, many had reached that conclusion much earlier ,easy to do by objective
    observance and being aware of what all Zisrael has done

  72. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    grateful for being able to worm in and steal billions/tens of billions of classified material related to American Intelligence Services and selling it all to just about anybody,
    I noticed POLLARD is considered a great Hero in Israel even though he was responsible for doing tremendous damage to American Agencies,agents,personnel,assets,etc, a THOUSAND OR MORE were arrested,imprisoned,interrogated,and executed BECAUSE OF POLLARD
    Then in Zisrael there was the candlelight vigil for Saint Pollard”,

  73. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    sarah, will you respond to this or not?
    just by going by the history between Zisrael & the USA the last several decades
    many are rather compelled to see Zisrael as the single greatest threat to America and many others.
    it may give you comfort “illusory” that so many consider Israel a threat just because they are Jews or Zionists or Israelis, but actually it is what Israel and their intelligence services,their government, their Idf
    HAS DONE to our Country , stealing and spying in America for political,technological,military and the the most important of of our classified information /material does not engender one to like Israel,
    this may also give you some smug satisfaction as well, however all these deeds done plus our vast support of an “Ungrateful Ally” is finally a reality that more & more Americans are becoming aware of.
    If Israelis were all devout athiests and had done the same why would there be any different reaction/realization of what a liability and threat Israel is ??
    I would like you to explain why this is incorrect,thank you

  74. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    throwing out the word “conspiracy” or “antisemite” no longer has that effect of dismissing those who don’t go along with your simplistic rhetoric, all of History involves conspiracies,
    THE UNITED STATES DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE was also a Conspiracy, according to the British Crown,

    that was a non response,sarah, get out your IDF internet warrior handbook and try harder
    khazarian Megaphone?

  75. roger  September 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Jake: You can keep the mexicans in Mexico and trade for their oil too, just put all illegals and mex together to build a canal from the pacific to the Gulf that would work in benefit of both sides of the border: the US and Mexico would have their own new Panama canal with cheaper goods transportation, a natural barrier hard to cross either way that would also limit drug smuggling and best of all a least a 10-year of manpower intensive period that would absorb idling and jobless population.-
    As far as jews, a sociopathological phenomenom inherited from ancient times, they can have the choice, as they decided to have a nation of their own, to move to Israel in mass or if they decide to stay in the US would not be allowed to own any Bank, MSM, Pharma or shares of stock in corporation whatsoever.- Dual citizenship of any kind forbids access to land property or College Education.- Also, as prerequisite, if jews decide to stay they must be sufficiently taxed in order to return all the US money yearly sent to israel since its inception from the Federal budget, money that has been collected from the taxpayers and deviated without public consent.-
    Blacks can be invited to a generous retirement in Africa with alll the revenue that can be collected from the jews, who, in the first place did bring them to America as slaves.-
    Scrappping must include the patriotic act.- A comfortable jail with hard working facilities should be provided to the franfurt school filth publication otherwise they can have the choice of surgical castration and remain free.-

  76. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    first of all we are a very grateful ally, its just that israel very much dislikes the obama government. we werent called an ungratful ally before. its all to do with this usless man in the white house. israel does not wish harm to america, israel loves america so if israel spy on america it only to do will israel’s security, nothing more.

  77. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    there were only 500,000 or so Jews /Jewish Zionists in all of Germany before ww2

  78. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Way past Twilight’s Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass

    zionism is the settelment of jews in israel. nothing more.
    i am not into conspiracy and the never ending speculations about israel.
    in my mind its all very simple.

    “The Third World War, now beginning, pitted the Zionists against the Muslims”
    yes it does seems like it, but more like muslims against zionists.

  79. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Daphne O’Brien
    Correct! ,
    The Young Turk movement was pretty much entirely composed of Jews.

  80. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    just by going by the history between Zisrael & the USA the last several decades
    many are rather compelled to see Zisrael as the single greatest threat to America and many others.
    it may give you comfort “illusory” that so many consider Israel a threat just because they are Jews or Zionists or Israelis, but actually it is what Israel and their intelligence services,their government, their Idf
    HAS DONE to our Country , stealing and spying in America for political,technological,military and the the most important of of our classified information /material does not engender one to like Israel,
    this may also give you some smug satisfaction as well, however all these deeds done plus our vast support of an “Ungrateful Ally” is finally a reality that more & more Americans are becoming aware of.
    If Israelis were all devout athiests and had done the same why would there be any different reaction/realization of what a liability and threat Israel is ??
    I would like you to explain why this is incorrect,thank you

  81. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    “pretenders and the real Israel descendents are among the Palestinians”

    wow what a joke, dont worry at the end it will be crystal clear who is a real jew and who will get the title the enemy of israel.

    btw i am a safaradi both sides.

  82. Way past Twilight's Last Gleaming and thru the looking glass  September 14, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Lord Acton said, “The truth will come out when powerful people no longer wish to suppress it.” Since Sept. 11, more and more people are turning to the “conspiratorial” or “suppressed” view of history.

    In 1891, Cecil Rhodes started a secret society called the “Round Table” dedicated to world hegemony for the shareholders of the Bank of England and their allies. These priggish aristocrats, including the Rothschilds, realized they must control the world to safeguard their monopoly on money creation as well as global resources. The same folks control the U.S. Federal Reserve and other major central banks.

    They were united also by a commitment to freemasonry, which at the top, is dedicated to the destruction of Christianity, the worship of Lucifer, and the rebuilding of a pagan temple in Jerusalem. They see most of humanity as “useless eaters” and pioneered eugenics to decrease population and weed out inferior specimens. The eventual annihilation of non-Zionist Jews was rooted in this English movement.

    In 1897, the first Zionist Congress took place in Basel. In 1904, the founder of Zionism Theodore Herzl died at age 44 under suspicious circumstances. The movement was taken over by the Round Table. The purpose was to use it and Communism to advance their plan for world hegemony. During the same week in November 1917, the Bolshevik Revolution took place and the Balfour Declaration promised Palestine to the Jews.

    The Round Table group planned three world wars to degrade, demoralize and destroy mankind, rendering it defenseless. The Third World War, now beginning, pitted the Zionists against the Muslims.

  83. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    it doesnt mather if i get fried, some jews will survive and will get to build the third temple.
    and you wont even be around to remember my words.

  84. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    The root cause in a vile perversion of the original Hebrew tradition, called Talmudism and it will fall with Israel, mark my words.

  85. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    It still did not change their silly myths Ummer. Very few of those Ashkenazim intermarry with real Jews, most of whom reject Israel anyway, since it is an apostacy and an abomination. Many of those chosen people simply adopted the newer more enlightened versions of the religion anyway, and became Christians and Muslims. They are the ones the fake Jews are persecuting in Palestine.

  86. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    I am glad you are not worried Sarah. The thought that arrogant slime like you will be struck all at once by the horrible truth they have been denying, at the final moments is a joyous thing to those of us who righteously hate the fake and stolen state using a name they are not entitled to. As you get fried, imagine me and millions like me dancing and celebrating your well deserved destruction. Please do not forget my words.

  87. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Sarah what is written is that demons who will say they are Jews but are not, will forcefully try to take the so called promised land, and will be destroyed for their efforts.

    Your mistake is to forget that calling yourselves people of the book, was just a ploy, you are actually Ashkenazim pretenders and the real Israel descendents are among the Palestinians. This then of course makes sense compared to the biblical prophecies. The real Israelis are indeed under threat of destruction, they really are the light unto the world, and that is true whether or not many of them are still followers of the Mosaic law alone. Indeed Islam includes the people who were promised, there is only one religion, bnut it has had several tune ups since Moses that is all.

  88. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    It won’t be Muslim states imploding little Duane, it will be that crappy little terrorist state Israel and the crappy god forsaken USA. As one of a mounting number of Muslim converts from the West, caused by the process of blowback from Zionist lies since 2001, I assure you Islam is here to stay, long after you and yours are just a distant ugly memory.

  89. Rabbit  September 14, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Israel is a terrorist state and their act of piracy against PEACE ACTIVISTS who had the courage to die for their convictions, changes nothing Rossy my boy. What’s your real name eh Heimy?

    Bloody megaphone brats!

  90. Gordon Duff  September 14, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Dead on!

  91. T bagg  September 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Nice Article. I enjoyed reading it. I had no idea Turkey had such a powerful army. It will be very interesting to see how the Turkish Navy and Israeli Navy get along in the next few days. Hopefully we can send Hilary out there to get in between those two ships with a megaphone.

    I also had no idea that our US Congress considers Israel “sacrificable.” And to think this would all be news if I didn’t read about it in the Bible, where in Matthew the Jew Pharisee tells Pilate that Jesus blood will be on their hands forever. Or in Revelations where it talks about armageddon. I can see it now…the gates of heaven will have a sign on the ol pearly gates that says..”Restricted clientele.”

  92. The Equalizer  September 14, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Hasbarah; So people who are being illegally boarded in international waters by thugs with automatic weapons in the dead of night can not defend themselves with “metal poles and knives”? You and your kind are pathetic. I hope and pray that someday you and “your kind” get what’s coming to you because you and “your kind” are nothing but filth that deserves nothing less than to be flushed down “life’s sewer”.

  93. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    do not twist my words.
    we love america and appreciate the friendship very much.
    this week isnt important, you live day by day we live by prinsaple and belife, we are not stupid and know israel is heading for some hard days but i personaly not worried.

  94. Gabriel  September 14, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    You pathetic creatures. The heavens fall down around you and all you can do is point your fingers. Are you so blind to not see what is transpiring here. It is not the jewish people who have been at fault. It is the power pushing the world into what it is they want.

    Nuking someone, anyone is what they want and as all are nuked, they will laugh and move on to another country to begin again the same game. Its not people we are dealing with, it is an occult power playing this world for fun and profit. People are the pawns no matter which side they choose.

    Round up corrupted leaders and send them to trial. They are the criminals bring down chaos to your lands.

  95. peter james  September 14, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Israel will have a surprise
    Jerusalem, The Nation Called Israel And Biblical Israel – Their Fate

  96. Jake Sprake  September 14, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I agree with you Roger and would add, deportation of jews,Mexicans and other illegals. Sealing the border, a separate state for blacks – again with sealed borders, none of this back of the bus nonsense. Repeal of civil rights nonsense, scrapping of any human rights, equality, hate legislation et al. Burning of franfurt school filth publications. And that’s for starters,.

  97. Jake Sprake  September 14, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I agree with most of what you’re saying apart from Libya being an ally of Israel. Israel set Libya up in 1986, Operation Trojan 1986, then Lockerbie.

  98. beijingyank  September 14, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Duff, you forgot the “Samson Option.”

    America (Shadow Government aka Rogue Network) has left this rogue state gather 400-600 nukes. Who is going to around to turn off the lights if Israel launches everything at everybody?

  99. roger  September 14, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Gordon: America is needing a simple and clear 10 or 20 points script comprising most reasonable goals, like an easy to remember middle class constitution, to be joined by the majority of the social spectrum.-
    I.E.; 1º) To reckon itself as a Christian society under the protection of God.- 2º) To get rid of the FEDERAL
    RESERVE. 3º) To outlaw lobbying. 4º) To go back to direct and participative legislation. 5º) To heavily tax outsourcing. 6ª) To only admit immigration based on national needs.- 7º) To secure retirement for the elders. 8º) A national health system based on the best of Europe´s and not on Obamapharma´s.- 9º) To control MSM forcing it to state both sides of the coin.- 10º) A full employment program.- 11º) A defensive and not an agressive Pentagon. 12º) to sign peace and cooperation agreements with the rest of the World.
    13º) to establish a social credit and state banks (like North Dakota´s).- 14º) to totally outlaw secret societies, public admittance of sexual behaviour (homos), drugs, porn, abortion & euthanasia.- 15º) To eliminate indirect taxes.- 16º) To plant a tree a year for each one of its inhabitants. 17º) To improve Education and University access.- 18ª) to continue infrastructure works on roads, hydropower and public transportation as well as on clean energy alternatives.- 19ª) To care for the homeless building appropiate housing for the needy and providing him with a decent job or a social task.- 20º) To establish this as a Patriotic bill of rights.

  100. Ummer Farooq  September 14, 2011 at 11:50 am

    There was nothing stopping those Ashkenazi’s from inter marrying with other jews.

    Please, do note that it is the Shabbatean Frankists who declare themselves as enemies to God.

  101. The Branch  September 14, 2011 at 11:45 am

    The end of Israel will certainly not be the end of the world, or even Armageddon. As long as America, Russia and China refuse to go to war with each other, civilization will survive. Let us look at this intelligently. Israel is an evil, murderous thug nation. On a playground, the Jews would daily get the Hell beat out of them for being slimeballs. The rest of humanity does not need their Book or their very dubious leadership on any issue. If America could somehow see her way to allow the Security Council to be reformed, and take some necessary steps to implement some justice in this world, we will all do alright.
    Allow a Security Council veto to require the votes of 3 permanent members of the Security Council.
    Make Brazil, Germany, Japan, and India permanent members of the Security Council.
    End the Federal Reserve and back currency with hard assets, like Gold.
    Perhaps we need to let the entire system fold in order to rebuild it?

  102. jUST a cOUNTRY bOY  September 14, 2011 at 11:15 am


  103. roger  September 14, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Ibram: You can find useful materiel in Rupeenews.-

  104. roger  September 14, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Peter: In one way or another it has being working ad majorem judae gloriam.- Egipt reached the pyramids and were left behind.- If the script was good it was stolen by the “guests” who find it very suitable for their designs of world domination.- Just take in account that of masons supreme council 9 seats 5 are reserved for jews, a permanent majority.- Of the 18 degree oath: total commitment to the Universal Israeli Alliance, just see US and UK officials, politics, military and courts mostly to masons, otherwise they would not be allowed to office, post or promotion of relevance; and all, no matter the political party the belong to, totally submitted to Jewish power, as Nethanahu declares: we control the USA, and what to say about UK being under the rule of the Rothschilds for several centuries.-
    Masons are traitors expecting the 30 coins from their betrayal: personal benefit, fame and glory.- the difference with the jews is that they look after world dominance, and knowing the weaknesses of gentiles coming to the lodges use them as a tool for devious designs.-

  105. wolf  September 14, 2011 at 10:39 am

    “…that GOD of israel will not allow the enemies of israel to exterminate HIS PEOPLE..”

    God’s chosen huh?
    “…and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (REV 2:9)

    The vast majority of people who call themselves Jews today are Ashkenazi Jews. Unlike the Sephardim, who are Jews descended by blood through Abraham, the Ashkenazim are actually a Turkic people descended from Khazars who had converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages, prior to their westward migrations centuries later into eastern and central Europe and eventually on to Palestine.

    The Turkic roots of the Ashkenazim undermine their claims of entitlement in the Holy Land according to scriptures in the Holy Bible. And so the very idea that most modern day “Israelis” are not even of the blood of Abraham is considered a national security threat to the Zionist state because their pretensions of being racial heirs of the Almighty’s promises and blessings to Abraham have been annihilated by an extensive historical record.

  106. Sili  September 14, 2011 at 9:58 am

    The soul of US needs to be awakened….. When leaders act contrary to conscience, they must act contrary to leaders. (Veterans fast for life)

  107. Truth Seeker  September 14, 2011 at 8:50 am

    Just because it is not in your Rockefeller sanctioned Mythological US History books, does not mean there isn’t history of it (see Benjamin Freedman who speaks at length about this). Talk to European Historians, you might find more truth about the mysterious Khazars.

    One other observation that might come into play for those nay-Sayers… Nearly 2000 years ago when your skin color usually reflected your ancestry (& heritage), have you noticed that most fair skin people laid north of the 33 parallel, which tends to be where most of the wealth since then has been horded. Those who laid on or below the 33 parallel were of darker complexion and are typically what they call themselves people of the land. So when I look at the political leaders in Israel, our Corporate Heads, many politicians, Economists and the European International Banking Cartels I do not think of them as holy people from the fictional bible, I think of them as Europeans or coverts. I don’t need a history book or propaganda to think any different, logic and common since tells me different. If that isn’t enough proof, look at their actions and motives.

  108. mothman777  September 14, 2011 at 8:38 am

    I agree entirely, the unleashing of the Samson Option is already a done deal to complete the destruction of the world’s population down to around 10% of the current total, alongside the predicted (HAARP induced) 30 year drought over Asia, Africa, and parts of the Middle East (though one part can always be assured of plenty of rain). The film ‘Under the Shadow of Hermes’ by Juri Lina tells how British, American and German Freemasons in the very early 1900’s approved of a 10% post ‘revolution’ (slaughter) survival rate and were satisfied that their agents Trotsky and Lenin were achieving their agreed objective. Kissinger’s ideas of a world population of 500,000 is a continuation of this Bolshevik racist ideal. Those subs need to be taken out of commission now, the state of Israel made illegal and it’s terrorist weapons of nuclear blackmail disabled. To do this we must ban all double agents like Obama and Cameron and Sarkozy etc. from ever applying for political office.

  109. Gordon Duff  September 14, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Minot Barksdale thefts were by Americans, Christian Zionists of the Dominionist cult.
    Several of them had serious and fatal accidents after this, one general committing suicide by shooting himself several times and then disposing of the weapon.

  110. Gordon Duff  September 14, 2011 at 8:31 am

    When attacked by pirates, people can defend themselves. Israel’s are pirates just as are many Somalis.
    However, we also discovered the audio recordings and videos submitted by Israel were falsified. Israel had people walkng through walls.
    Israel has sewn the seeds of its own demise here.
    Israel is toast, the only question is ‘when.”

  111. Gordon Duff  September 14, 2011 at 8:28 am

    We are very aware that some in Israel see America’s doom as a very positive thing. I wonder how many friends Israel has? We will find out this week.

  112. Gordon Duff  September 14, 2011 at 8:24 am

    The only other possibility for ancestry are these two:
    1. Jews, in cirica 80AD disguised themselves as Visagoths and settled into barbarian areas that had no settlements, opening deli’s and tailor shops…sewing skins and making yak pastrami or
    2. Jews are, as was accidentially discoved within data theoretically finding “DNA commnality ” in Jewishing communities in regions called “Southern Khazaria” were compared with other studies of earlier pro-hominid populations…Neanderthals.

  113. Bernard  September 14, 2011 at 7:22 am

    Concerning male-line ancestry, several Y-DNA studies have tested the hypothesis of Khazar ancestry amongst Ashkenazim.[75][76][77] In these studies Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (sometimes called Eu 19) have been identified as potential evidence of one line of Eastern European ancestry amongst Ashkenazim, which could possibly be Khazar. One concluded that “neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin”[76] and another that “if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.”[75]

  114. Bernard  September 14, 2011 at 6:58 am

    The Khazar story has long been refuted:

    Concerning male-line ancestry, several Y-DNA studies have tested the hypothesis of Khazar ancestry amongst Ashkenazim.[75][76][77] In these studies Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (sometimes called Eu 19) have been identified as potential evidence of one line of Eastern European ancestry amongst Ashkenazim, which could possibly be Khazar. One concluded that “neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin”[76] and another that “if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.”[75]

  115. One  September 14, 2011 at 6:37 am

    I’ve gleaned more information from the comments than from the article, while it was good, informative, and possibly true, I do not want to be dragged into a debate on who knows the broken playbook better. No matter how well I know it, it’s still broken. The “Game” or “Grand Chessboard” is still just that, a game, and there comes a time you must put away the games no matter how big. Where are the adults in this world?
    I see many little boys in old mens bodies. Real men are confident enough in themselves that they help others around them to improve their situation, not con them out of something. Real adults never victimize the weak, but act as protectors. All of this lying, stealing, and cheating is nothing more than a sure sign of insecure immature children with power. They will never be satisfied because they trying to fill a hole with air. They heven’t the intelligence or maturity to see they have a problem let alone fix it, and the more it is tolerated the worse it will become.

    If Israel does hasten its own destruction, there will be another to take its place because we are not addressing the root cause. If the people (adults) of this world do not intervene and take these children out of positions of power, the destruction will continue. How much more of the same thing do you need to see to be convinced? It is now becoming more of an issue of why responsible and mature people are not intervening. Maybe the focus should be turned inward and ask yourself the question, “why am I tolerating this?”

  116. leona  September 14, 2011 at 6:03 am

    dear mr duff,

    I am confident that you are wrong in your analysis that israel would be nuked. You fail to take into account not only the masons working behind the scenes but also the catholic vatican and european royalty combined and germany who all hold enormous stakes in the holy sites in jerusalem. Would the vatican allow its holy sites in jerusalem to be nuked? – UNLIKELY.
    Does the vatican wield enormous power to disarm the turks? – ABSOLUTELY. Are the turks aware of european intervention to prevent the holy sites falling into muslim / turkish hands if need be ? – Absolutely. Turkey may be powerful for the moment but at its core – it will never be as powerful or creative and resourceful as Europe / vatican or the jews. turks never well known for Weapon construction etc but more well known for cruelty and lusts. Another thing not considered by you is that GOD of israel will not allow the enemies of israel to exterminate HIS PEOPLE 100%. If you analysed the 6-days war etc, you will find strange coincidences – inexplicable but wholly possible if you account for supernatural intervention!

  117. Cj  September 14, 2011 at 5:58 am

    Just a thought, but does anyone remember how the war started in the book; “Alas Babylon”?
    As I said, just a thought.

  118. massimo  September 14, 2011 at 5:48 am

    I agree with you but they always have their ways.Do you know how many Crypto Jews live among us And around the world ? After the expulsion from Spain in 1492 they were advised to take up different names that depends on the majority of the religions in the contry they enter .Do you really believe that we have
    only 2% of Jews in America ? Christian Zionists who support all the Jewish causes against the interest
    of America without being criticized ??

  119. Carmen  September 14, 2011 at 4:57 am

    Vox, Your comment is the most intelligent I have read in a very long time!!

  120. Tom Petrie  September 14, 2011 at 4:22 am

    It seems like Israel’s involvement in 9/11 is absolutely shocking! See for example:

    Heck, they appear to have orchestrated the whole thing for reasons with which many of us are familiar. If this could only get out in the mainstream media, we might be able to save America AND the world, but I’m doubtful! How could anyone get past the headline (Israel–with a little help from our CIA, an incompetent (bought and corrupt?) FBI and a few bought and corrrupt (and evil!) politicians…”did” it?”) Not one newspaper in America would publish such things. Even those in the “9/11 truth movement” as is this writer, can’t mention Israel or the Mossad in connection to the horrific events of 9/11/01. How long will the dilussions last?

  121. WTF  September 14, 2011 at 3:46 am

    I don`t think the bible will apply here, it is used only as evil men find it useful to appear as if it is true. It is not.

  122. sarah  September 14, 2011 at 3:04 am

    writing from israel, i am not worried at all.
    isnt this writen thousands of years ago in the bible?
    oh yes and it wouldnt be true if it wasnt happening this way.
    to all the anti israel dont rejoys your doom is near.

  123. Duane M. Peed  September 14, 2011 at 2:11 am

    In the world today, there are really just two wolves on their way to the top of the hill. Their mutual trajectories lead them to eventual conflict. Both of them do not consider Africa, the ME or South Asia anything more than 2nd rate actors at best on the world stage, mere chess pieces on the board. This talk of Israel is much ado about nothing. Israel manipulating the USA? Hah! It would be exactly in our best interest if Israel does emplode and take out a few Muslim states whom we would all be better off without. I am sure China is in agreement, too – they got their own Muslim problems on their border states. And what of all this talk of religious mumbo jumbo and shamans predicting the future? I mean, is this a Veteran Channel? If you are really a veteran, then you know the UCMJ is all about giving your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to Uncle Sam. My advice to you whom have forgotten this is to harden-up. 9000 on 9/11? Millions of dead Muslims since then? Who cares if in the future we are killing off a few hundred million Chinese – that’s where we are goin folks. And that’s where the Chinese are going too – they aren’t building ICBMs and launching them off our coasts for nothing. Patton would grease his tank treds with the guts of all the dead so far on his way to Beijing if it was what was needed for the USA to win.
    Duane Peed, West Texas

  124. Ross  September 14, 2011 at 1:44 am

    The author of the article – in his attempts at presenting a fair and balanced argument from both sides – includes:

    ” when Israel murdered 9 Turkish citizens in an act of piracy, peace activists on an aid ship heading for Gaza.”

    … but he entirely fails to mention that those same ‘peace activists’ were recorded as saying they would love to die as ‘martyrs for the arabian desert god on that voyage.

    he forgets top mention that they were armed with metal poles etc and struck the Israel soldiers as they rappelled down from helicopters onto the darken deck. Those soldiers were in clear and present danger and afraid for their lives.

    The bottom line is – because of their behaviour, some of the ‘peace’ activists got their wish.

    So, you have to ask yourselves – what sort of journalist is the author ?

  125. little becky  September 14, 2011 at 1:34 am

    The military has practically never served any contstructive purpose in Amerika and is hereby disbonded. It’ll be that much less falseflags Amerika will have to go through without the traitors in uniform on 9/11 and the homicidal scum who tortured Iraq. Can’t wait to see those losers finding out how hard it will be in the Amerika they ruined with war debt and psychopathology. It must suck to wind up duped …we will see how much of their pensions old vets get to keep. Ask the frikkin Rothschilds where it all went?
    If the military sickos got any spare change in the ol sack left why not arrest Cheney, Rummie Evelyn and Bibi, boys cuz you was sech heroes not long ago goin after Gaddafi with all your pretty medals and mighty shit? You guys continue to claim the US military is hot shit but it looks like instead on 9/11 they sold their nation down the tubes for money. And the troops follow those losers’ orders and destroy the world for em, go figure, there is nothing in it for anyone, the jews lose, Israelis, the troops, even the bloody red Rothschilds, pretty much everyone so thanks but no thanks to the military for nothing.

  126. Ibram  September 14, 2011 at 12:52 am

    Hi Gordon,
    Where can I get the info on the Bharat(Indian) ICBM cooperation with Israel? The US/Israel is using India’s inflated view of itself as a regional (and future) global power, as well as its obsession with ‘hostile Muslim elements'(internal and Pakistani) to counter China’s growing influence, as well as to check Pakistan(the ‘Islamic Bomb’).

  127. Dave Ambleton  September 14, 2011 at 12:51 am

    According to both the early-20th-century popular historian H.G.Wells and the Hungarian-Jewish intellectual and author Arthur Koestler, amongst numerous others, the people known today as Jews are primarily the descendents of a Turkish tribe known as the Khazars. The Khazars have no historical connection to Palestine. They converted to Judaism between 620 and 740AD, and have no genetic connection to biblical Israel, and hence to the narratives of the Bible and the “Holy Land”. Koestler actually devoted an entire book called The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) to the fact that the Jews of eastern European origin, who are known as the Ashkenazi Jews and who make up about 95% of the Jewish population of today, are of Khazar origin. In other words — virtually all of the Jews of the modern world have no Hebrew ancestry, and no ancient connection with Palestine.
    Does it matter? Does world peace matter? Do the human rights of a violently oppressed people matter? Does anything but sport and television sitcoms matter?
    Arthur Koestler was by no means the first to draw attention to this particular issue. He quotes from 20th-century works on the subject by, amongst others, Professors A.N.Poliak of Tel Aviv University, D.M. Dunlop of Columbia University in New York, and J.B. Bury of Cambridge University. The courageous Jewish anti-Zionist commentator Dr Alfred Lilienthal raised the issue 50 years ago and has continued to do so for decades. In fact, the famous H.G.Wells in the early 1920s in his popular Outline of History described the Jews as “a Turkish people” and stated that “[to the] Jewish Khazars … are to be ascribed the great settlements of Jews in Poland and Russia” (Chap. XXXII:8) and “The main part of Jewry never was in Judea, and never came out of Judea” (XXIX:1).

  128. wayne  September 14, 2011 at 12:27 am

    I disagree, most Americans are not waking up to the Israeli threat. In years past maybe 2% were hip to it and now it is maybe 15%. Not nearly enough. We need a strong 60% to stop their machinations. You may find this hard to believe, but Hitler had a major following here in American only a few shor years before we were at war against Germany. You probably don’t know that Hitler had a ticker tape paade in New York City, do you? It only took the Jewish propaganda machine about 18 months to turn ti all around and agaisnt Germany. They are very very influential and powerful.

  129. wayne  September 14, 2011 at 12:18 am

    A good read. Thank you Gordon. However, the Anglo-Ameican-Jewish banker elites did not get into their positions of dominance by being stupid and incompetent. They are ruthless, cunning and powerful. We shall sew what happens. Big lies, big propaganda, slaveish public support, surprise atttacks, and big wars are their stock in trade. They will not go quietly.

  130. Ronan Rapparee  September 13, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    If Israel really has a nuclear arsenal, then why would they try to steal U.S. cruise missiles in the Minot-Barksdale incident in August 2007?

    “By means of deception shall we make war”

  131. Ronan Rapparee  September 13, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    The Talmudic prophecy has always been that the “Holocaust” (burnt immolation) of Six Million Jews would usher in the Messiahs return.
    The plan from day one has been to get six million Jews into Palestine and then light the sacrifice!

  132. Ronan Rapparee  September 13, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Yes, read Smedley Butler, but read Albert Pike’s letter to Mazzini too, and realize that “Political zionism” means the United States, Britain, and Israel!

  133. Ronan Rapparee  September 13, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    The Republic of Ireland has an identical dual citizenship arrangement with the U.S.

  134. roger  September 13, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Logic and common sense seems to guide Gordon Duff and I enjoy much of of the article and most of the comments but how many of us are aware of the existence of over 2000 masonic lodges in Turkey and that the turkish armed forces are throughout infiltrated by the masonic pest that I can´t believe that any turkish action against israel would not be passed by the masons to the mossad before it happens. Most americans don´t have a clue about masons work as Israel´s praetorian force that, no matter which political party is in power, is always in control of governments and armed forces.-
    In beggining to severe the tentacles of jewish power people should start taking off the masks of masons who really are traitors against fellow gentiles, poisoning every single structure of Christian and western civilization.- Few people take notice of how important are masons for the Jewish World take over, just simply go and read “The protocols of the learned elders of Zion”, and see for whom is working your “inocent” friend, neighbour or relative that invited you to join the local lodge.-

  135. Ozzie thinker  September 13, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    As the current Chosen One, I have decided there are too many “vested interests” to defend. As everyone appears to feel they are right even though everyone – in some way at least – is wrong. Those with the biggest mouths are the most heard. From God’s perspective the satanists are at least prepared to explore the “unexplorable” which is beyond the fathom even of the so-called Zionist. In that way the satanists infer they are prodigal, which is a far cry from all the other voices. We are building to a dumb armageddan play where Zion feels the true king will be revealed by obliterating everything that stands in his way. If peace were found on earth it would not last a generation. You zionists have no clue as to God’s plan. You will never “force it”. If any of you are prepared to put on your spectacles and look at your natural world for clues as to God’s intent, you will be shocked at what you discover.

  136. Laferia  September 13, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    pps strongly feel we are going to have that first false flag as they take out an American City to further terrorize US….as most people are begining to wake-up from the zombie 9/11 false flag and also alot of people are either having epiphanies….apocalypse fever….or just feel that something is NOT right!

  137. Laferia  September 13, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    ps today “isrealis” are KHAZARS……..russian converts from the KHAZARIA………real Isrealites are sematic as Iranians are Aryan………….Khazars are from some steppes in the Old Russian Empire – nothing to do with Ancient Isrealites who were definitely not on the white side…..”Comely and dark as the Cedars of Lebanon……..”Abraham was Sumerian from the City of Ur of the Chaldees not polish descended Hasidism…………the madness of converts…..oy vey!

  138. Laferia  September 13, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Bigger fish to fry…..yes! there is a quiet chill in the air as all these sabers are rattling but in what direction? “Plan within Plans”……the real news is that ELEnin, Honda, levy and YU55 are in the inner Solar System, the Sun is seriously acting up – CME’s galore – see blackout affects 6.6 million people in SanDiego and said region and Earthquakes are ramping up to a BIG one…I would say at least a 10 soon eerily the Juan de Fuca got a 6.7 jolt this last week……..on the Radiation front – FukUshima is the China Syndrome now add Virginia’s fallour from that rare 5.6 quake that jostled the Northeast for 500 miles and France’s Mox explosion…….NO GOOD News here – millions will start dying if they have not already.
    150 CEO’s flipped their jobs or have vanished from public eye, 70 Police chiefs re-sign, every major office has moved in-land…..and life saving medications are vanishing off shelfs in the USA…….hmhmhmhm….LIBYA was for Water not Oil or Gold althou they would not thumb their noses at that windfall….Looks like a BIG move is happening right under our noses as the deck chairs on the Titanic are being arranged and the band is about to strike-up that final waltze….and those Elite rats scurry for the last life boats at D.U.M.B……don’t be surprised if you wake-up one day – a “nuklear” war raging, the earth ripping apart and meteors hurtling from the sky….and your lying leaders “GONE” fishing………yup! think they are about to make a quick exit stage left and leave the bulk of Humanity hold the shit filled bag. that can be the only reasoning for all these WANTON recklessness…THEY DON”T CARE about Radiation or the Economy or who has a Nuklear device….because they are audi 5000 and YOU will face Nibiru on your own with your families in tow…..wake-up…..most survivalist have retreated ……….are you prepared…..Notice how they have started to vanish from public view…..and Obambi will be in Denver Airport on the 27th Sept and the Nation’s FEMA response capability will be tested across ALL media outlets on the 11/11/11…….ps as the Mayor of Gotham said in Forbes, in the wake of Irene “looters will be put in INTERNMENT CAMPS…..not shot, not arrested…..Internment Camps???!!!! …..good luck God Bless. Peace.

  139. Martin Morgenstern  September 13, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Ahem, I feel a chill coming on. My mutha says I gotta wear a coat. Nuclear war? Oy vey! These goyim will be the death of me yet. Nah, there’s a few of us who actually do still believe in God. We win.

  140. Amygdala  September 13, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    I appreciate the speculation, but please, where’s the real grammatical editing anymore?

  141. Paul  September 13, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    You cant have bases at home when ther are a 1,000 needing staff overseas.

  142. Margo  September 13, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    28% of GD’s readers or 28% VT readers?

  143. MK  September 13, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Dear Marc, Gordon and other denizens of the Vets Today corner of the web,

    While I read this article, chills ran up my spine. About two years ago, Cliff High at the halfpasthuman site had written one of his linguistic-based prediction reports saying that Israel would make a mistake that would cost them dearly…probably resulting in their erasure from the maps of history. When the reports began to surface of Israel’s collusion with Libya and the invasion of Egypt’s Israeli embassy (with more documents surfacing), I knew that Cliff had hit another home run.

    If there was ever a country that embodied a huge karmic debt for their treachery and bad behavior, it is Israel. The fact is that nobody wants to deal with a country or people who continuously break their promises and then say that “the Holocaust made me do it.” I don’t know what REALLY happened in WWII, but I do know that there have been many genocides since where the truly deserving victims were ignored while the world has been told over and over how the Jews have suffered.

    The truth is that most of the people in Israel are Khazars. The Khazars are an indo-turkic-aryan tribe that adopted Judaism to avoid being absorbed by the Muslim countries on one side of them or the Christian countries on the other side. The greatest irony here is Israel being taken down by their blood relations–the Turks.

    Much as Marc pointed out, far too many fine soldiers and heroic firemen/police and others were sacrificed on the altar of Israeli ambition. I mourn them. I mourn the brave people trying to get supplies to the poor beseiged Palestinians. I am afraid that I cannot mourn Israel’s leaders. They have destroyed the world trying to gain ownership to it. They have impoverished billions for no reason other than their apparently inexhaustible greed and salving their immense inferiority complexes.

    There are bound to be good people in Israel. There are good people everywhere. However, their country and its leaders are no good–for anybody.


  144. Harold Saive  September 13, 2011 at 9:29 am

    A decade of desperate lies about terrorism has turned into a “tin ear” anniversary, don’t you think?

  145. Harold Saive  September 13, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Criminal facets are escelating the brinksmanship to a point of inevitable nuclear conflict (the big nukes). Gordong Duff has it pretty much spot on.

  146. beausoleil  September 13, 2011 at 9:04 am

    It seems that the people in charge of the Systematic Theft of All would not mind at all if Israel were destroyed, because I doubt that the people who are really in charge live in Israel. They would sacrifice the Israeli people perhaps to distract us, just another trick. Would you live in Israel if you were ruler and beneficiary of the Systematic Theft of All? The bed bugs are scattered about, is my guess.

  147. Louise  September 12, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Presidency of France was what I was talking about. Strauss-Kahn is even more Jewish than Sarkozy.

    And yes the Brits are an annoyance when it comes the EU, they would like to see the Euro fail because it is replacing the Sterling as the most traded currency.

  148. Louise  September 12, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I come from one of the countries that I mentioned are America’s friends. We can see America’s faults, in fact we are all pretty pissed off with the wars and the way that America has shamelessly supported Israel, but when push comes to shove America will never stand alone.

    By the time Pearl Harbour happened the US could already read Japan’s codes, but every other ally the British had was already in the war and we were losing the war.

    Yes, most countries in Asia already realise that ‘the emperor has no clothes’ but our region would like to have a security framework that is ‘balanced’ anyway. The ASEAN countries have already told the US not to start a cold war with China and India. The US needs to learn how to work along side others and how to be part of a team.

    One of my country’s diplomates put it this way – often we have just lay on our backs with our legs in the air waiting for America to tickle our tummy, but it is better for both of us when we are honest and say what we think.

  149. Penumbra  September 12, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Google is a major tool for recording and reporting possible dissident activity to the relevant fascist agencies, use Ixquick it keeps no record of searches.

  150. Vox  September 12, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Apparently the connection was bug spray

  151. Joe  September 12, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    How did six million unemployed Germans before Hitler rose to power in Germany lead to six million Jewish deaths during WWII? Was there an economic connection here somewhere in between?

  152. Joe  September 12, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    What makes you think that they will fall for that trick again? (ie phony showers).

  153. Joe  September 12, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    It doesn’t look to good to Americans that the U.S. rating went down and the Israeli one went up, especially when it had to do with pro-Israel neocon Republicans opposition to Obama’s debt ceiling increase that led to the U.S. rating going down because of neocon economic hypocrisy. Let’s connect the dots here.

  154. Joe  September 12, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Only until messiah comes in the end will it end, so they say, so that they cannot accept any messiah before the end.

  155. BJ  September 12, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    I am so very thankful for the Internet which gives us the ability to rapidly communicate this info on VT.
    I hope it never gets censored or controlled as some predict.
    Thank you VT for providing this forum for the exchange of info which until the last decade was not possible to
    everyday folks. I am learning so much since 9/11 and my eyes and many others are getting wide open.

  156. AS  September 12, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    that’swhy a new 911 is pertient…to make sure that israel is integrated to europe if the us fall, which is what thwey are doing, destroying the economy and the people… a new 911 is coming… and israel will provide saudis with the nuke to counter balance iran or even turkey

  157. AS  September 12, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    excellent !!!!!

  158. antonietta ferrari  September 12, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    The Northern Army And its Allies Will Punish The English Speaking World & Israel

  159. rgalton  September 12, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    “Arbeit Macht Frei”

  160. Derek  September 12, 2011 at 11:28 am

    The schizoid nature of Modern Hebrew: A Slavic language in search of a Semitic past. …

  161. Derek  September 12, 2011 at 11:23 am


  162. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Jim.. a voice of reason and intelligence among the babbles of the dim. Salut!

  163. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 10:27 am

    A factional dispute between rival stooges of the banksters. Traditionally the Europeans control the IMF and the Americans control the World Bank. For example, Wolfowitz was head of the World Bank at the time of the Indonesian tsunami.. (exposure of the details of which supposedly got Joe Vialls murdered). DSK’s replacement, Legarde, is a longtime stooge of the CIA, ie the American wing of the banksters enforcement squad, whereas DSK was an extreme Zionist associated with Mossad. DSK wanted to lighten up on the banker demands of destroying all public functions of the states preyed on by the IMF so the banksters on this side ordered the kibosh put on him. He actually knew of this threat and told friends in Paris that if he was charged with some bizarre sexual antics in New York it would be a setup. ALSO it seems Sarkozy was deeply hooked in with CIA having been raised by Frank Wisner’s kid.

    Oh what tangled webs!

  164. peter  September 12, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I dont know…that definition sounds very creative…visualize a wreak upon a river or great wash of sewage a vessel that is being dragged by a thick slurry of any kind of descriptive analogical sewage you might like – even if it was a spelling error…nice one TJ (nuthin personal agin Stevor)

  165. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Google? Google? Never. Who owns Google? A pox on Google.

  166. peter  September 12, 2011 at 10:14 am

    If NY or Washington get nuked then the USGov will have high tailed it to one of 131 deep underground bunkers some of which reach 2 miles where they are entirely self contained and available on elite tickets…the rest have to take cover under the sky…

  167. peter  September 12, 2011 at 10:10 am

    If NY or Washingtron goes under Israeli nukes the UsGov will have gone to deep undercover bunkers to carry on the good fight – by deep I mean in excess of 2 miles and about 131 of them that apparently are completely self contained for the elite tickets – all othere take cover under the sky…

  168. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Yes, the subs! The subs! That has to be Job One. Track the subs! Shadow them. Be prepared to take them out the very second it becomes necessary!

    To get really shit scared, read Trowbridge’s whole output on the Palme assassination. The sub antics up the Baltic were the basis of the thing. It’s maybe comforting to imagine that the Navy knows where all the subs are.. but any Navy men can tell you it just isn’t like that. That’s the whole point about subs.

    Any submariners around here?

  169. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Jeebus is on strike, but mighty Thor is shining up the BIG hammer. There will be plenty good seats in Valhalla after the coming battle, methinks.

  170. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 9:59 am

    A cooperative venture of gangster groupings.. just like when the Jewish mob hooked up with the Italian mob under Lucky Luciano. As a matter of fact, that’s about the time the US intelligence “gang” got hooked up with them as well. However, besides being an “anglo” gangster, Cheney was also hooked in with the Straussite crowd. He and his wife are known Straussites like the neocons. In this respect, Cheney has a unique place in the history of American gangsterism (ie politics). He is the focus of a lot of diverse factions which have coalesced into the Big Con currently responsible for the meltdown of the US as a house of republican virtue, transforming it completely into a gangster anarchy.

  171. Bob Loblaw Jr  September 12, 2011 at 9:51 am

    28% are canaanites? And how many of them write in here pretending to be rabid jew-haters in order to poison the atmosphere and justify all the Foxmanite/SPLC shrieking and counter hate mongering?

    Not long ago there was a conference which was reported about in one of the ethnic jourmals (and this is a good example of what Jim just said about gathering intel by reading the enemy’s output!) where it was mentioned there was/is a serious decline in “anti-semitism” which threatened the success of the Zionist cause. It has always been the policy of the Zionists to gin up as much “anti-semitism” as possible because they understand from day one this is the major source of their support and funding.. ie the terrorizing of rich jews in order to extract money from them.

  172. Penumbra  September 12, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Peter, it most certainly has successive “residents”.

  173. Tom Valentine  September 12, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Since it is against the Talmudic dictates to apologize to a goy. The notion of the Turks finally getting their fill of it, may be a good one. The “High cabal” does not relish nuke destruction, because they own all the assets that will fry. A quandary? If there is a God, Israel will self destruct, taking those capitol cities with them; We all eventually die. If any cosmic justice gets done just let me last long enough to see it. That said, It is unchristian to wish for desth and destruction on anyone; yes, i know it is hard, However eternity be a damned long time.

  174. Vox  September 12, 2011 at 8:02 am

    The Germans tried to do right by those Commie Bolsheviks. Cleaned the filthy scum up, showered them, cut their ratty hair, deloused them, gave them clean lice free clothing and a job (for a change) instead of their usual fare of swindling the gentiles. The camps were re-education centers to teach the jews a trade instead of allowing them to continue on destroying nations. The Germans were trying to lift the jews out of the gutter not honoring them for it. There was no “final solution”.

    Anyone that runs their own business in the USA will tell you that jews got it all. No matter what line of business you’re in, they run that particular industry and you get table scraps and they make all the money and do so at inflated prices and gouging and cheating the tax payers whenever they can.

    The one big mistake “true” Christians make is believing jews have similar morals and ethics. jews view Christian morals and ethics as weaknesses to be exploited not as admirable qualities. So if you’re kind or compassionate to a jew, they see that as an opening to screw you over.

  175. Vox  September 12, 2011 at 7:55 am

    If everyone wants Israel to be dismantled and gone forever then stop spreading the lie that six million jews were gassed with bug spray.

  176. Art  September 12, 2011 at 7:45 am

    That is the deadly unspoken assumption in the article, that, in my opinion, can be expanded into many European nations today as well. The promotion of many questionable parties in this article as anti-Zionists can be very misleading to the less informed readers. Not only Israel is not cornered, as this article seems to lead us to believe, the entire MENA is in fact under an all out psywar, covop, and naked aggression to secure Israel’s future. Countries are falling one after the other in that direction.

  177. Art  September 12, 2011 at 7:18 am

    Maybe even homonymic.

  178. Nelson_2008  September 12, 2011 at 7:08 am

    “Israel is now totally isolated and very much considered sacrificable by the US, despite continual pronouncements by members of congress otherwise.”

    What do you mean by “the US”? Do you mean “the U.S. government”? For all practical purposes, there actually is no more “U.S. government”, is there? And to the extent there is anything you could call the “U.S. government”, it’s not about to sacrifice “Israel”.

    The abomination transparently masquerading as the “U.S. government” will take your rights, it’ll take your assets, it’ll take your economy, it’ll take your social safety net, it’ll take your grandmother of her dialysis machine, and finally, it’ll take your life and those of your family mambers – before it’ll “sacrifice” “Israel”.
    You see, “America” is not about “America”, it’s all about “Israel” and the insatiable demands of Jewish supremacist ideology.

  179. Penumbra  September 12, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Actually the EU has a 6 month rotating Presidency, as such, which places the heads of each member state, in turn, upon the dias. However, all that and 5 cents (as they say) wouldn’t buy you a cup of tea in China. It does give the talking heads as turn at the lead mic in meetings of the Council of Ministers, but little more in terms of global leverage.

    As for DSK, he was handed more of an opportunity than a set back in the short-run spectacle. Remember that the French expect scandal from their leaders, and would be suspicious of any who appeared too spotless, especially in the realm of sexual indiscretions. DSK now has the tribal “victim” card to wield in his renewed push upward on the poltical ladder. Await the rebranding that will likely come in the not too distant future, once the public attention span has been sufficiently diverted to other momentary spectacles or threats (such as the imminent collapse, or threat thereof, of the EU project itself). The precursors are already rolling out soundbite by soundbite across the media (both MSM and alternative).

  180. Penumbra  September 12, 2011 at 6:44 am


    With all due respect to your obvious sincerity your characterization of geopolitical alignments as a matter of “friendship” is a tad naive.

    Nations do not have “friends” nor offer “friendship” such as one seeks or offers within the sphere of interpersonal relationships. The guiding ethos is simply one of pragmatic expediency for the greatest facility for securing “interests” for the governing oligarchy. The determining considerations themselves are far removed from the popularly perceived motivations of “the masses”. That is to say, what many of the plantation dwellers may wistfully express as a sentimental attachment to the idea of international relations between the US and any other given nation, are little more than the expression of consistent and repeated marketing by the globalists of a useful narrative, for as long as it serves to advance the incrementalist agenda.

    Absent any unexpected volte face in the long march of the chess pieces, the narratives as understood by the bulk of society remain fairly consistent, but can change on a dime to present perceived friends as sudden enemies without much popular resistance, leastwise in the US, due to deeply ingrained compartmentalized and decontextualized perceptions of events and the agencies behind those events respectively.

    Thus the nations you mentioned are, in the end analysis, not driven by the vicissitudes of “affection” for the US so much as they presently obtain greater leverage for their own positioning by remaining “onside”. That, however, is steadily proving to be more of a liability than an asset. Word to the wise, do not discount some surprising shifts in strategic alignments in the years to come as the prevailing paradigm of unipolar superiority finally loses its market appeal. The emperor has no clothes, after all, just a big vicious bludgeon.

  181. NightFlyer  September 12, 2011 at 2:47 am

    Just need to add that Turkey is not influenced nor contolled by Israel as are the USA, Germany, Britan, and France which makes Turkey the true number one important member of NATO. The vote coming up on Septemner 20th, if it actually proceeds to a vote, will show all concerned who the puppet governments are at this time. Thanks for reading and do have a nice day.

  182. Louise  September 12, 2011 at 1:18 am

    Art, if any country in the world has to choose between the USA and Israel they will choose the USA. Many of America’s friends are only nice to Israel because they love America – Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand to name a few.

    Turkey is one of the five most important countries in NATO, if there is a stoush between Turkey and Israel over ships going to Gaza, everyone will be on Turkey’s side.

    The Egyptians people will not elect a government that supports Israel.

    Oil in the Middle East is more important to France and Britain than Israel.

    The Libyans will not be electing a government that supports Israel.

    The Twin Towers were owned by Silverstein the guy who said ‘pull it’ about building 7.

    My case is closed.

  183. Louise  September 12, 2011 at 1:09 am

    I wonder if Israel realizes that Turkey is one of the most important members of NATO. If you had to name the five most important members of NATO they would be the USA, Germany, Britain, France and then Turkey; this is without doubt.

  184. Gordon Duff  September 12, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Jews deserve to know the serve a government of criminal bastards just like the United States.
    We must be fair.
    We owe it to them.

  185. min egan  September 11, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Bronco get a dictionary, you’ve got a homophone problem.

  186. reamonnk  September 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Blame the Jewish owned media. Blame the Jewish controlled educational system that forces 13 year olds to go through an intense holocaust educational program. Blame Hollywood and television for implementing this program of mass mind manipulation.

    Hell, Its not like Muslims hands are clean from Jewish influence. Far from it.

    It’s just wayyy easier for Jews to infiltrate White Christian societies at every level because they look ‘white’. they don’t trip up the “outsider bells” like Jews would in a conservative Muslim country.

  187. stevor  September 11, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    “Bush murdered America’s military future”? Interesting since it was CLINTON who closed THREE bases in the Sacramento area alone! (Mather, McClellan and the Army Depot)

  188. Get Real  September 11, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    heh heh. nice one. and unfortunately not far off the mark !

  189. abubaqar  September 11, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Israel will not fall so easily, in fact it is destined that it will wage war to gain further territorial land and capture the arab oil fields to blackmail the western world justifying it as defence against” islamic fanatics” who want justice for those oppressed for decades under U.N rules and regulations. these jews know your mettle and have subverted and infiltrated all your organs of fighting war and intelligence (Pollard case comes to mind).

    to understand its demise you have to go to islamic texts stating its end when the sea of galillee drys up in northen israel which is its portend predicted the prophet mohammed (pbuh).

    Israel cannot exist without its support from the western world christians, it will embroil you in a religious war with muslimsTHE PROPHET MOHAMMED (pbuh) STATED THAT THE CHRISTIAN NATIONS WILL STAND UNDER 80 BANNERS OF 12000 SOLDIERS EACH AND INVADE MUSLIMS LANDS near the end times. what will israel do for you christians to do this???

    most christians are blind to the israeli subterfuge going on and are easily led into doing what they want against humanity and its values!
    the destruction of the western nations will be by Russia and China will attack america for its machinations against it through taiwan and south korea(god knows best) these predictions are foretold by a muslim saint of the 9th century called NEMATALLAH SHAH WALI whose name you can google to read all he stated which has come true to time,place,name and country exactly stated by him!
    can you afford to ignore his predictions?

    mr gordon duff states what is true as he sees it, we have to give him credit for that as it is based on factual evidence to a large extent, the rest will be as time unfolds it.

    does it have to be like this? why can we not respect each other and act in a manner to live and let live?
    why do we tolerate known evildoers in positions of power lording over us and setting in motion mass killing all over the world?
    did any of these rulers childrens die in anyway while yours did?
    did they lose arms and legs or eyes while you did?
    why can we not see that we need to stand up for truth,humanity ,peace and tolerance and not war,lies and mayhem?
    the historical fact is that unless we recognise between falsehood and truth we are destined to act out in this manner and those who manipulate us will go on doing so successfully as they have done in the past!

  190. Raleigh  September 11, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    I have it from on high; the U.S. will not undergo a nuclear war and we will get resurrected through hard times.

  191. Louise  September 11, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    The European have agreed to set up a combine military base in Europe for Europe. Britain is against being part of it. So now we know why Strauss Kahn became damaged goods. Britain is too close to Israel and the EU does not need a president who is align with Israel as much as Strauss Kahn is.

    Good to see Turkey stand up to Israel and I am sure the EU will support them if there is an issue.

  192. Louise  September 11, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    No member of public office in Australia is allowed to hold citizenship in any other country, even New Zealand or Britain. I totally agree with this policy.

    I believe the US should have a crack down on its current policy. No member of public office should be allowed to hold citizenship of any other country.

  193. REY  September 11, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    rgalton, I agree with you , Also I have to say , we possess more than several hundred atomic warheads The last inventory shows 5900 Nukes…Israel has 200
    Peace (if possible)

  194. Fred  September 11, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Seeing alk the recent events and roght before the palestenian UN bid, could it be possible israel wantd war rather than give back land? I mean to know hoe utterly upset turkey is and then to taunt them by saying its just spilled milk and then to have their bad cop suggest to perhaps do some nasty things like support terrorists against turkey. To top it all off, they “accidentally” killed 5 egyptian cops when thats like the worst thing o do when yer neighbors are already rioting.

    It seems like they are utterly incompitent or these actions are all by design. time to sacrafice all the israeli lambs they paid to move there and “settle” the land? its either civil war if they give up the land or lets fight the arabs again? just speculating……

    Thanks Gordon for yer perspective on things… Some of the

  195. Art  September 11, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Let’s make up a list of the assumptions the article is making:
    1- Turkey is turning against Israel.
    I have yet to see a single irreversible act or decision against Israel by Turkey. Turkey is actively involved with Saudis and Mossad and CIA in infusing mercenaries into Syria to reenact Libya scenario. Erdogan and Davudoglu have both made lacerative comments against Assad. Turkey can still turn out to be a big Trojan Horse in ME. If Syria falls, Israel will unleash hell on Lebanon, and NATO will go after Iran. Then Turkey and Israel will come out uncontested powers in MENA for a long time. It is very much worth going thru an elaborate Kabuki play to snow every one.

    2- Libya and Egypt have been rescued away from Zionist influence (and can now join Turkey against Israel).
    Not supported by a shred of evidence on the ground. How could Libya be rescued from Zionists by half of the world’s fire power in the hands of three Jews.

    3- The west is turning against Israel to the point of annihilation.
    We are some how supposed to forget that US, UK, France, and Russian government heads are all Jews.

    4- Israel’s involvement in 911 is (suddenly downgraded to) a ‘possibility’.

    5- US’s debts are to Israel.
    With or without Israel, US has to pay debts to Israel’s mother.

    Hoping these assumptions are true gives any decent person good feelings. But talking about them as if they are actually true does little more than disarming and misguiding people.

  196. Penumbra  September 11, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    The US military has long been subverted into a bastion of sociopathic Armageddonists. Do not think for one minute the lives of the average citizen (whom a significant majority of US military personnel have indicated they would willingly kill or suppress in the event of any declared “national emergency”) mean jack to this institutionalized death and destruction cult.

    After all, if they nuke the world (or let it be nuked) Jesus has to come back and whisk them off to meet Peter Pan in never never land.

    Time to grow out of the childishly naive illusions about honor and sacrifice and see this corporate kennel of indoctrinated thugs for what it is. Go read Smedley Butler for starters.

  197. foo  September 11, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    @ Daphne O’Brien

    “The Controversy of Zion” as a PDF file is hosted on all over the Web as a free and (apparently) legal download. If anyone wants a copy, google

    “The Controversy of Zion” pdf

    and download and read it.

  198. Penumbra  September 11, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Standard and Poor’s along with other “ratings” agencies are owned and operated by and for the ponzi schemers, do you really think their ‘ratings” mean anything other than a celebration of more extortionist con jobs in the pipeline?

    Its all a cover for massive sovereign debt transfers (the fruits of the labor of untold billions) into increasingly fewer offshore accounts…. do you hear the “great sucking sound” yet?

  199. NightFlyer  September 11, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Bed Bugs all, ha ha ha, When my hotel became infested I was so happy to see the exterminator arrive and stop them in their tracks. No one cried, and they all died, including the ellusive queen who was deep underground in a burrowed out pocket next to the five pointed sewer connection. Ah, and after the air cleared the tourists began to return, and all the cultures again began to share and exchange their wares. Art returned, and no one seemed to want to speak about the terrible memory of the sad times, when the Bed Bugs infested the earth. The exterminator is coming soon. I love it.

  200. DaveE  September 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Yeah, I know, but they still live in Palestine, which they conveniently renamed “Israel”. That makes them Israelites, usurpers or not.

  201. rgalton  September 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    The question is, would the US military allow Israel to destroy civilization? I think not, and I don’t think that the bought and paid for Congress, mainstream media or executive would get a say.

  202. Get Real  September 11, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    and of course we are relying on the US Military doing the right thing. After witnessing 911 unfold that is quite a gamble. Who is to say that the military won’t once again turn a blind eye to Israeli aggression. Remember the USS Liberty.

  203. Get Real  September 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    I certainly hope you are correct. The Israeli psychopaths leave me with an uneasy feeling. I dismay at the thought that the world is on the brink of a new age of prosperity for all and could be ended by a small group of lunatics.

  204. rgalton  September 11, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    It is unthinkable that the US Navy does not know where those subs are, every second of every day, just as it does Russian and Chinese subs. And could sink them easily.

    They are not silent and a US first strike against Israel would be quite simple.

  205. AR  September 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    I’m confused, Israel is facing a diplomatic deadlock and a deterioration in its international standing yet Standard & Poor’s announced recently that it has raised Israel’s credit rating from A to A+.

    What’s up with that?

  206. Get Real  September 11, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Without wanting to sound alarmist but, a nuclear war in the middle east would indeed result in the total destruction of Israel. However since the early 1990’s Germany has both donated and sold at heavily subsidized (by the German taxpayer) price tags a number of Dolphin Subs to Israel. These are capable of launching nuclear armed missiles.
    I have also read over the years of Israel’s resolve that should she go down in flames so to speak she will also take several well known capital cities with her by way of nuclear strikes. Topping the list are London, Paris, Berlin, New York, Moscow to name but a few. Given the fact that these subs can go silent and be undetectable it is certainly within the realms of possibility that Israel would go ahead with it’s threat. At the very least it would tend to rule out a first strike rendering Israel harmless.

  207. bargain bob  September 11, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    The war goes on forever, and the jewish jihad never ends.. or maybe after centuries of deception it will?

  208. Penumbra  September 11, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Israelis not “Israelites”. These Talmudic clowns have absolutely no link to the ancient Israelites, never did, never will except in their own fevered imaginations.

  209. Penumbra  September 11, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Patience peter, I’ve been out all day and am not in a writing mood at the moment. Rest assured I will add my comments in due course. I see a two edged sword in this article and will give it a few more reads before adding my two cents’ worth.

  210. rgalton  September 11, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Great article and I agree that Israel is now heading for complete destruction. It didn’t have to be like this, but decisions made, including 9/11 but many others too, have made it almost inevitable.

    Curiously it may actually be a U.S. first strike which does it, to prevent use by Israel of the ‘Samson Option’, which has the potential to kill hundreds of millions.

    I suspect a large part of the reason for the missile defence shield in Europe is also to counter the Samson Option rather than Iran, which currently has no nuclear weapons and very crude delivery systems. This is why Russia has also tacitly agreed to it, subject to certain demands of course.

    “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions…We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”

    – Martin van Creveld (professor of military history, Hebrew University)

  211. Daphne O'Brien  September 11, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    I have a point to make of which you may not be aware. The Armenian genocide was, to the best of my knowledge, carried out by “young Turks”. The Young Turk movement was pretty much entirely composed of Jews. Please read:
    Jews, Zionists Behind Armenian Genocide Holocaust

    And you do need to read about what really happened in Russia. The Controversy of Zion is an excellent book to start on, but there are quite a few more. They are old, and I bought mine second hand through Amazon. But I had to confirm what I had learned. It was so horrific. When you understand who the Bolsheviks were (majority Jews) you will be able to believe that the Young Turks were actually Jewish.
    Barry Chamish, a well known Jewish writer, confirmed this some time ago.

    As for a war that will wipe out Israel, I have heard this before, and just hope, like everyone here, that somehow this horrific scenario will not be carried out. However, they have pushed their neighbours too far, and the rest of the world is learning to turn against them too.

  212. Marc C. Daniele  September 11, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    You know I can’t say that this would be a bad senerio if it gets rid of the Traitors, and the Duel Israeli scum from our “Republic”! Without these scum I believe the US “Republic”, and it’s people could survive nearly anything!

    I do beg to differ with you as far as the US Military being murdered, as such. I am sure many Vets would glady volunteer if needed for the defense of the immediate “Republic”! I would do everything I could as long as my heart still beats!

    We do not need Empire!

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I also think the US can actually take care of itself without anyone else’s help, or resources! Especially the Banksters!

    We should definitely be able to reinstate the US Constitution! And we do not need Empire!

    Like you said Mr. Duff, Israel is TOO STUPID to appologize to Turkey, and they deserve what they have given, TEN FOLD!

    I will not cry for that government, maybe for the innocent peoples, but definitely not the government and those who support it!

    Maybe at that time we could also actually pay them back for the numerous acts of war against us that have been covered up, by delibertely NOT HELPING them! That would be in our best interests anyway!


    WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! I only hope that our TREASONOUS government’s actions do not come back to haunt us too!

    How solid is this info Mr Duff?

    I’d like to say something off the subject also, I have been watching football today, and they are having the tributes to the hero’s of 9/11, ie: First Responders, Police, etc. which is very much deserving, but what gets me VERY upset is that not once have I heard a thing about the troops that have died for the LIES of 9/11!

    It makes me sick to hear these people talking about 19 hijackers, etc., basically the “Official Story”, when there is SO MUCH indisputable evidence that proves this a nothing but a lie, and actually TREASON!

    I pray that “WE” can change this soon!

    Remember 9/11 and The USS Liberty, both done by the same COWARDS!

    Restore The US Constitution!

    US, Republic First, Always!

    US Army Veteran,
    Marc C. Daniele
    Herculaneum, Mo.

    One last thing I learned today, did anyone else know that US/Israeli Duel Citizens are the only ones that can serve in US Public Office’s, etc., yet vote in Israel, and hold public office there, etc. without losing their US Citizenship? ONLY Israeli’s, everyone else would lose their US Citizenship! WOW!

  213. BJ  September 11, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    IF Isreal does not come to its senses and recognize Palestine the Palestinians will be “genocided”!
    IF things get that bad I sincerly hope GOD starts the World anew!
    Mankind has their chance.
    Extinction is a normal part of the world’s development.

  214. DaveE  September 11, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Each will get what they have sown. There is a special place in Hell for the Israelites, however.

  215. Dolorosa  September 11, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    From a prophecy viewpoint, I don’t think Israel will be destroyed. In rejecting Jesus Christ, they will hail the coming antichrist as their long awaited Messiah. The antichrist will have his headquarters in Jerusalem. Now the U.S. has funded Israel so it’s very possible that America will be destroyed. We are headed for the Freemasons WW III unless we receive a miracle from God. Man doesn’t seem to be able to stop it. This documentary provides us with a supernatural means to stop it:

  216. Tahir  September 11, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Scary stuff, G.

    I’m sweating though the AC is running at full speed.

    Thanks from Pakistan!

  217. zitawi  September 11, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Just awesome.

  218. min egan  September 11, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    A nightmare from the sandbox.

  219. spktruth200  September 11, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    What makes you think Gordon is writing as Pro Jew. I dont get this from this piece. Most people know very well the mossad had a lot to do with 911…zionists owned the bldings, insured the bldgs, had offices in those bldgs. The fact is the WTC was filled with asbestos and other horrific chemicals those bldgs had to come down…they joined with sadist Cheney and got a two fer.

  220. Gordon Duff  September 11, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    28% of our readers are Israelis.
    One of our readers is named “D Costa” who has an attention span problem.

  221. Cloak And Dagger  September 11, 2011 at 12:55 pm


    You never fail to terrify! Just when I was getting ready to sit back with a nice cold brewsky and watch the endless retelling of the 9/11 saga on TV, I had to stumble on your article.

    Now I just want to crawl up into a fetal position in my couch and shutter all the doors and windows.
    Thanks a lot!

  222. peter  September 11, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    has everyone gone to the hills or private bunkers…? there is a chill of absence to this article…sounds kamikazi too.

    Penumbra?????? You have something to say….?

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