OCW Primer: Oakland Police – Serving the Reptile


Letter Reflects Psychotic Break by Criminal Police Mob


By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Once upon a time, we used to hear stories about heroic police.  Because of Oakland, a department that fired lethal high-velocity ordnance into a peaceful crowd, police are unlikely to ever be considered heroes again.  Heroes are those people who stand up against police and for America. 


Heroes are those who stand against those who serve “the reptile.”

Reptiles?  There can be no other explanation, insects are too social, even the black widow spider only kills its mate, it doesn’t strive to devour a planet.

The Oakland Police, the ones I saw, belong in prison, not on the “paid for eating donuts” role, the form of “semi-welfare” that many civil employees join, police, city commissioners, many county veterans service officers and so many others who abuse authority or spend their lives hiding behind administrative rules and voice mail.

Injustice goes further than just Wall Street and Washington, it comes to every town and village in America.  In American cities, mob rule has been the norm since the British kicked the Dutch out of New Amsterdam.  Government is and always has been an expression of organized crime. 

Oakland Sherrif Deputy Who Threw Flash Bang Grenade Into Injured Veteran's Helpers

Investigating police and municipal officials takes of the efforts of thousands of Federal agents each year who are, often as not, told to keep their “hands off.”  Public graft is considered a franchise, a reward for helping rig elections.

The police I saw in Oakland were the rioters they complain about in their letter.

Defending America?  Occupy Wall Street protesters were doing that.  It was fairly peaceful in New York City this weekend. 

My daughter was at OCW.  She made it pretty clear what the primary problem is there, starving Americans.

OCW was feeding the homeless, not their own members, mind you, but the endless homeless that now are found across America.  We are told 25% are veterans, we know the numbers are higher.  Rudy Giuliani used to round them up and ship them out of town.

In Los Angeles, they report several thousand homeless.  Our records show the Los Angeles region has a minimum of 6,000 homeless veterans alone.

With Veterans Today involved, along with the ACLU and major law firms, we have taken the Federal Government to court to force them to spend some of the billions of tax dollars earmarked to help homeless veterans instead of steal the money for themselves.

And Robbing Them When Possible

Stealing money meant for veterans is an American tradition, mentioned last week in Boardwalk Empire, the HBO hit television show.

While working on the story, Veterans Administration Police came to us complaining that their supervisors and top VA administrators had ordered them to make illegal arrests, forge documents, commit dozens of crimes. 

This was reported to the FBI.  Nothing was done so now we have taken them to court.

Then accountants for the VA came to us and said that the Veterans Administration officials had set up phony medical laboratories, empty offices, where real medical work was sent, but never done. 

We believe this is going on across the country, the Department of Veterans Affairs being bilked out of tens or hundreds of millions or more by crooked employees protected by the veil of administration, almost as though they were Oakland Police.


A minor reminder.  If you think you know history because you went to college, think again.  A current scam, financed by the banksters and their army of paid liars who fill the internet, the newspapers, fill television with fiction as truth.

It’s all part of the mental conditioning to maneuver free humans into generations of slaves, the idea that America was never meant to be a democracy.  They say it is a “republic.”

What they mean is that they have been paid to convince people that only rich people have rights, the rights to send to war but not fight, to tax and spend but never pay, the right to steal but never pay for their crimes. 

Taxpayer Educated White Collar Criminals

Are they right?  Of course, history has proven that justice is bought and sold like any other commodity and that universities exist to rubber stamp the lies that help the  control the planet.

Send your kids of college and they come out robots, hoping to worm their way into “middle management”.

If they are without conscience and sufficiently criminal, they may become hedge fund managers or start some insurance scam of their own, robbing the elderly or stealing people’s homes.

The last generation of business school grads taught America to send jobs overseas, set up a “service economy” and flood the nation with illegal immigrants. 

They were taught that deregulation was the key to everything and that imaginary capital, traded in wildly speculative systems without rules, was the path to a lifestyle of excess and power.

The generation before than only snorted cocaine off the abdomens (and elsewhere) of high priced call girls.  They actually paid for the cocaine, brought into the US by the CIA, paid for the hookers.  This was the last really great generation of honest Americans.


When the Banks Became the Bank 'Robbers'

Banks are a good place to start, the real center of evil.  Banks represent a worldwide crimewave that operates governments.  Banks orchestrate wars, not just Afghanistan, but World War I and II, Vietnam, the Cold War, but they really started hundreds of years before that. 

The history we teach, of battles and assassinations and alliances, isn’t history at all, its deception. 

Wars were always between banks over money and the “incidents” that started the wars, from Pearl Harbour to 9/11 were nothing but theatre.

Yes, people died.  If money rules, and money does rule, then the lives of people are nothing. People are disposable, capital has all power, this is the nature of the disease.

Some in America have called it Federalism, some call it the New World Older. It is served by organizations with a hundred names, the highest levels of Freemasonry, the Catholic Church, Israel and Switzerland, (people do live there, but only as “cover”).

There is a bizarre idea that the world needs to be sucked dry, everything of value, even the oxygen has to be taken away, the land defiled, the human population debased, the animals caged and tortured, all in service of strange theories more reptilian than human. 

The great religions exist as a farcical backdrop, oblivious and silent while all this goes on. 

The real entertainment, the real addiction, even more than the thousands of tons of narcotics the globalist cabal floods our societies with, pours into our schools, is cruelty itself.

Who Always Wins - And Never Loses in War?

The media exists to peddle fear and hate, ethnic, race, class.  It is more than that, we are being systematically dehumanized to live in a “science fiction” world. Turn on the television.  Vampires and zombies, all day. 

When it’s not that, its spies and conspiracies, flooding our fictional lives with the shadow of our real one, numbing us to the corruption and disease around us.

The treatment of Veterans is a microcosm for the reality of society, American society in particular.  Veterans are humans sent off to kill other humans. 

The purpose?  Veterans eat food, use up weapons, all generating capital which accumulates in the hands of the 1%.

Smedley Butler Saw Through the Whole Scam

The wars themselves, the rational illusory, mythical, more honestly, are always lies.

Wars to protect democracies that never existed from political and social movements that saw things differently, that didn’t worship money above people. 

That is always the reason for war. Read Smedley Butler.  If you haven’t, do it.  One page is enough.

War is a crime, whose purpose is to steal money, to help enslave people and America is, were one to push past the myth of history, past the movies of the holocaust, past the theories, past the fictions…America is invariably at war against injustice it has itself created or fighting to impose injustice on others.

When faced with evaluating the attacks on the ultra-corrupt Libyan regime, one that appeared to some to be standing against tyranny.  But under close examination, it proved as so often the case,  was nothing but window dressing for tyranny, some balked. 

Some thought two wars were enough.  Others automatically assumed that if America were fighting, it had to be wrong.

A madman was leveling cities with heavy artillery and many found themselves paralyzed with mistrust.  That, in itself, is a symptom.  This is what “preconditioning” is all about.

We are told 3,000 have died in Syria.  We are also told we can’t intervene, more like 30,000 may actually have died.  Why?  Well, Gaddafi in Libya was loaded with money which he shared with the banks.  It bought him months.

Russians Will obviously Defend Their Only Mediterranean Port

Syria?  Russia defends their air with sophisticated weapons and stops any UN vote to protect Russia’s only port on the Mediterranean. 

As for the Syrian people?  They have been slaves for generations, slaves of the Ottomans, slaves of the French and now slaves of Assad. Syria is interesting, at least to VT. 

We have the ability to “follow the cash” as we are an organization of burned out former NWO thugs. 

Iran is an odd nation.  I broadcast there daily, am read in their papers, I even defend them, quite often actually. 

I know them to not be the threat, not be the people Americans are told.  They and the people of Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan are among my friends.  Our next generation may learn that, share that friendship, if we don’t kill everyone first.  I give the chances at 50/50.

Syria, an area where hypocrisy has taken so many turns that no side knows another anymore.  Franklin Lamb was there a couple of days ago, we have been discussing it, as I have with many others.  I am amazed.

Turkey wants to attack Syria over problems with war crimes and refugees, we are told.  Iran and Hizbollah, both on American terror lists are helping Syria.  Russia is flying in “technicians.”

Syria is a daily bloodbath, real people fighting for freedom for sure, but everyone else in the world interfering as well.  That still, as with Libya, doesn’t change things.  The Assad government, though one of the few not enslaved to Washington and Tel Aviv, can no longer honestly rule.

Eli Cohen, alias Kamel Amin Thaabeet - Hanged by the Syrians for Spying for the Israelis

We are told how much Israel, the tiny nation that controls America, hates Syria.  Then our spies, and we have so many, begin to unravel something else. 

Syria and Israel have secret “protocols” of cooperation. 

Iran and Israel share the same, exposed by VT last week, plans to enrich each other with oil speculation through a ruse of war so dangerous it threatens the entire world.

Behind it all, as the armies that march the streets of the world figured out, are the Banks. 

The names may be Jewish, the passports Israeli, the arch-criminals may be the Bush family or the Rothschilds, or the Swiss or French. They may be the arms manufacturers or big oil, the Freemasons or the Catholic Church.

The armies of thugs are clear as day, police departments, the CIA, the Pentagon and the police and security services, the armies of dozens of nations tasked with cruelty and corruption they will never understand, never fathom, only blindly serve for a crust of bread and a pat on the back by a reptilian overseer.

I leave you with the letter from the Oakland police, a document demonstrating the delusion of a few tasked with defending a people they are not a part of, of enforcing laws they themselves don’t obey, of serving a country they betray with their very existence.

Do I damn everyone because there is nothing left of America but serving the oppressors, getting coffee for the bankster cheats, repossessing homes, selling defective products, delivering poisoned medicines?

Or how about their taking part in the fastest growing of them all, the machinery of slavery, the press, the internet, the media, the entertainment industry, those tasked with conditioning the slaves with crushing the spirit, with selling the dream, your chance of serving the reptile.

An Open Letter to the Citizens of Oakland from the Oakland Police Officers’ Association

1 November 2011 – Oakland, Ca.

Thanks Oakland Police - You Missed Her Eye

We represent the 645 police officers who work hard every day to protect the citizens of Oakland.

We, too, are the 99% fighting for better working conditions, fair treatment and the ability to provide a living for our children and families.

We are severely understaffed with many City beats remaining unprotected by police during the day and evening hours.

As your police officers, we are confused.

On Tuesday, October 25th, we were ordered by Mayor Quan to clear out the encampments at Frank Ogawa Plaza and to keep protesters out of the Plaza.

We performed the job that the Mayor’s Administration asked us to do, being fully aware that past protests in Oakland have resulted in rioting, violence and destruction of property.

Then, on Wednesday, October 26th, the Mayor allowed protesters back in – to camp out at the very place they were evacuated from the day before.

Ah...We Can't Thank you for This One - Or the Flash Grenade

To add to the confusion, the Administration issued a memo on Friday, October
28th to all City workers in support of the “Stop Work” strike scheduled for
Wednesday, giving all employees, except for police officers, permission to take
the day off.

That’s hundreds of City workers encouraged to take off work to participate in
the protest against “the establishment.”

But aren’t the Mayor and her Administration part of the establishment they are paying City employees to protest? Is it the City’s intention to have City employees on both sides of a skirmish line?

It is all very confusing to us.

Oakland Ammo Used on Peaceful Protestors

Meanwhile, a message has been sent to all police officers: Everyone, including those who have the day off, must show up for work on Wednesday.

This is also being paid for by Oakland taxpayers. Last week’s events alone cost Oakland taxpayers over $1 million.

The Mayor and her Administration are beefing up police presence for Wednesday’s work strike they are encouraging and even “staffing,” spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars for additional police presence –

Fellas - the Heart is on the Other Side

At a time when the Mayor is also asking Oakland residents to vote on an $80 parcel tax to bail out the City’s failing finances.

All of these mixed messages are confusing. We love Oakland and just want to do our jobs to protect Oakland residents.

We respectfully ask the citizens of Oakland to join us in demanding that our City officials, including Mayor Quan, make sound decisions and take responsibility for these decisions.

Oakland is struggling – we need real leaders NOW who will step up and lead – not send mixed messages. Thank you for listening.

Editor’s Note: Dear Oakland Police Officers Association.  Ah….Mixed messages??? This is one of the stupidest letters I have ever read in my life. 

The only shot you had was to refuse orders to use violence on the protestors…you and the Sherif’s deputies. I can assure you that our readers, many of them veterans are going to help you out as much as we can supporting criminal prosecutions for all those in the chain of command who were responsible.  Jim W. Dean

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52 Responses to "OCW Primer: Oakland Police – Serving the Reptile"

  1. warboar  November 4, 2011 at 8:33 pm


    The Oakland police seem to like picking on vets. I’d kind of like to see the vets pick on the Oakland police.

    OccupyMarines believes that either ESU Officer Scott Bergstresser threw the grenade that injured Scott Olsen or he knows who did.

  2. Eric-Gunther:Oberhauser  November 4, 2011 at 4:46 am


  3. Obbop  November 3, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    “There’s class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

    “There has been class warfare going on,” Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. It’s just that my class is winning. And my class isn’t just winning, I mean we’re killing them.”

  4. Bill Blackolive  November 3, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Yah Past time the protesters screaming about911.

  5. ENDTIMES  November 3, 2011 at 6:47 am

    Occupy or Die…

  6. Steve  November 3, 2011 at 1:15 am

    Every soldier should read Smedley Butler, before he fights in foreign lands. In fact every citizen should read him period.

  7. fred  November 3, 2011 at 12:28 am

    I guess u could expect police brutality anywhere on this planet where their are cops but its gotten really bad here in the states recently (or more likely its always been bad) and almost none of it gets reported.

    Be weary of cities that dont require or have protocol to document every stop made by a suited officer of the law especially if u are black or mexican or look poor (most blacks and mexicans already aware of this). I have began to wonder if these municipalities that have laxed police reporting requirements have done so in effort to reduce crime statistics reports to make their cities seem safer than they really are… kinda like how the educational boards have made easier questions on standardized tests to make it seem yer children might have a braipoorthe perfect climate to for corrupt cops to beat u up (if u are poor or minority)…. no report necessary! Maybe its all by design stupid people with crazy cops.. the usa of the future or i guess we’re pretty much their now

    Anyhow u throw in budget cuts, lower wages for cops, higher crime, structural unemployment and a pinch of homeland security.. its pretty damn easy to see how a cop might become confused….
    I appreciate the oakland PD’s statement… it semed sincere and honest to me… thx for sharing it here..more police departments need to come out and say they are confused! Protect and serve the rich aint easy when so many people in the poorhouse!

  8. Derek X  November 2, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    “Syria is interesting, at least to VT. We have the ability to “follow the cash” as we are an organization of burned out former NWO thugs. ”

    That must be why I love this site.

    • Jim W. Dean  November 2, 2011 at 8:00 pm

      Derek, The wisdom that comes with old age…to some 🙂

  9. Bob Loblaw Jr  November 2, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Our Jeremiah. A voice of morality. Salut.

  10. zitawi  November 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Gordon you speak from the heart

  11. Demarche  November 2, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    I’m not sure what the article is saying. I thought the letter was a good gesture, albeit too little too late. I actually posted the letter on my FB and the ‘symbol’ of the police association came up it was:


    C (cubed) i (cubed) ???

    What kind of symbol is that? Kinda, thought twice about the letter when I saw that.

  12. Brian  November 2, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Technically the Oakland police are not part of the 1% but they make big salaries due to their union power which really harms the city’s budget. Their big salaries, benefits and pensions take a ton of money which could be used to help the citizens. Their powerful union, just like in many cities, especially medium and large cities, uses its political clout to gain big contracts. Politicians don’t want to run for election without the approval of the powerful police, fire fighters or teachers unions in many cities across the nation.

    Pricey police hold Oakland budget hostage

    Written by Alan Lopez
    Wednesday, 30 June 2010

    Excerpts from the article:

    As Oakland struggles with a $31 million budget deficit, much of the focus has been on the generous salaries and benefits provided to the city’s police officers. The average annual cost of salary and benefits for one police officer is $190,589 compared to $177,888 for one firefighter, according to a letter written by Councilwoman Pat Kernighan. Starting police officers in Oakland earn about $70,000 a year, compared to those in New York City who make about $44,000 a year.

    During good economic times, the Oakland Police Officers Association negotiated a contract in which police officers do not pay money into their pensions, unlike civilian employees and firefighters.

    Under the current “3 percent at 50” pension formulas, a 30-year police veteran can retire with close to 90 percent of their last year’s salary. Paying the police pensions costs the city $8 million to $9 million a year, said City Councilwoman Jean Quan.

    “That’s why we can’t balance the budget unless we cut the police somehow,” said Quan, a candidate for Oakland mayor in this November’s election.

    Brian: The article was written in June 2010. It’s amazing how many powerful public employee unions have their contracts expire during an election year; this helps ensure they get their raises. The news media describe police, firefighters and teachers as heroes and fail to mention many of them, especially in medium and large cities, are members of greedy unions. Yes, it does depend on the union and the location. Yes, I realize in some portions of the country they are underpaid.

    Teachers make big salaries in California and have amazing benefit and pensions due to their union clout with politicians. Government employee unions are a major financial problem for California cities and for the state of California.

    • Bob Loblaw Jr  November 2, 2011 at 1:29 pm

      Union hater. You work for The Koch brothers. You are trying to shift blame from billionaires onto working people. Screw you. Working people are NOT the problem. Billionaire bankers and their scum buddies in DC are the problem.

    • Brian  November 2, 2011 at 5:34 pm

      Do you realize many cities have significantly reduced the number of police and fire fighters and services to the elderly and others due to the outrageous salaries/benefits/pensions of these people who laugh all the way to the bank. People will die because of the cutbacks. I’m focusing on cities and states, do your homework. However, unions are not the only problem.

      When I worked in the automated material handling systems industry as an analyst I was appalled at how much overall compensation these assembly line workers and others were paid. The cost goes into the price of the cars. Yes, the white collar workers are also greedy. Greed is everywhere not just bankers. When unions were at their peak they were either the third or fourth largest cause of inflation, depending on the economist. This hurts the little guy.

      I do like the concept of unions but not the greed which hurts the average person.

    • Mark Are  November 2, 2011 at 5:47 pm

      UNION LOVER= ANTI FREE ENTERPRISE=COMMUNIST COLLECTIVIST MENTALITY. Everyone has the right to decide if they want to work for someone or not. We don’t NEED unions. Anyone willing to work for substandard wages is a fool and sadly enough that is what real life is all about. Some people are fools. I’d say refuse to work for less than you are worth. Who needs a union to tell you that?

  13. Truth Seeker  November 2, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Reptilians… the species that shows no remorse or emotion. We all laughed at David Icke when he said that Reptilians were running the world, now Duff seems to be embracing that same belief…

    When you go to the Zoo, you can observe all 3 forms of the human mind. After watching and observing for hours, you can look back at the humans at the zoo a see what part of the mind they are operating from.

    As much as the world was 300 years ago, today it still remains the same. The same people that have owned everything, still own most everything today (Rothschild’s Banking Cartel, Nobility and the Vatican). The only thing that has changed is the players & the game/illusion. Any future that is sold to us by them, their agents or representation will only be the next illusion/game. Humanity needs to make a decision soon, do we free ourselves from servitude and create a new world system of equality or do we except their hierarchy criminal police state.

    Visiblity = Truth ——————– Secrecy = Falsehood

    • Gordon Duff  November 2, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      just because we don’t say something a thousand times, don’t assume we are all stupid

    • Mark Are  November 2, 2011 at 5:43 pm

      Reptilian=PSYCHOPATH. Isn’t it easier just to say PSYCHOPATH. Psychopath’s have no conscience. 6% of the population are psychopath. DO you know what that means for the rest of us? We either are going to have to take the incentive and do what it takes or else we will go down in history like the rest of humanity has for the past 8,000 years. Ruled by PSYCHOPATHS.

  14. Rob  November 2, 2011 at 11:02 am

    It is incumbent for Police Officers to uphold the rule of law, not break it. Using non-lethal weapons in a lethal way is against the rule of law. The police had no right of law to break-up a peaceful demonstration, so challenging the Mayor would have been the thing to do in a decent society. Civil disobedience in the face of being ordered to perform an illegal act is the cornerstone of a free society.

  15. johng  November 2, 2011 at 11:00 am

    I have nothing but praise for the OWS Movement and it’s courageous people. At least not everyone is going down without a fight.

  16. DaveE  November 2, 2011 at 10:43 am

    I think the Oakland Police make a reasonable case that they, too, are being manipulated and used by the reptilians, zionists or whatever they are. That’s how the zionists operate, by keeping everyone so confused that they do their (the zionists) bidding without even realizing it.

    I’m not really defending the Oakland PD. But still, they are like soldiers FOLLOWING orders, not the ones giving them who are the REAL source of evil, as any soldier with half a brain knows.

    • Jon Jon  November 2, 2011 at 11:30 am

      They make personal choices to lob flash/bangs and fire cannisters ……
      Plus can’t they figure this sh*t out for themselves ….cummon………

      “the REAL source of evil, as any soldier with half a brain knows”

      Does this mean that cops have less than “half a brain”….

    • Rob  November 2, 2011 at 12:00 pm

      it takes alot to overcome the brainwashing, extensive in thier case, we have all endured. Just another piece of evidence that OWS is WAKING PEOPLE, including thier direct oppressors, UP

    • barrie w  November 2, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      mercenaries. offer more money.

    • Debbie  November 2, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      @ Jon Jon

      “the REAL source of evil, as any soldier with half a brain knows”

      Does this mean that cops have less than “half a brain”….

      Yep! apparently common sense is the least common in North America.

  17. The Dunkins  November 2, 2011 at 10:23 am

    How many Dunkin’ Donuts does a Pinkerton Thug have to eat before they can freely (without criminal penalty) undermine citizens’ constitutional rights, feloniously assault protestors operating under the First Amendment to the Constitution, engage in criminal conspiracy and commit attempted murder against troops who have returned home from serving our country?

  18. Jon Jon  November 2, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Wow “confused” cops ……aren’t they trained to figure sh*t out …….like investigate ….holy fork …..

    ???…. if you are having a “Peaceful Protest” why are cops called in with unpeaceful intent….?????
    ????…. “Peaceful Protest”!!!!!! NO police presents needed…????

  19. A J MacDonald Jr  November 2, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Oakland is a tough city, which has more than its share of police brutality on any given day., and the police have a very difficult job do in that city, especially now. The Occupy Wall Street Movement is not honest and it’s not been peaceful, which has given rise to conflict. These OWS folks are not peaceful “occupiers” sitting in city parks, they are mobs of angry people expressing their hatred and resentment by invading city business angrily shouting at innocent employees, as well as marching through and blocking public city streets angrily denouncing capitalism. The radical leftist and Otpor nature of OWS’s philosophy and tactics are evident for all to see, and I agree with the police: “we need real leaders”. What we don’t need is more anger, more violence, and more polarization, which is OWS. We need love, peaceful protest, and unity, which was Dr King. OWS is not using the nonviolent philosophy and nonviolent tactics of Dr King, whom OWS falsely claims as their inspiration; OWS is using the philosophy of Marxism and the “nonviolent” tactics of Gene Sharp. King broke unjust segregation laws and had them eliminated. OWS is breaking just laws which will never be eliminated (e.g., living in public parks, disturbing the peace, inciting a riot, trespassing). This difference is all important: it’s the difference between truth and lies, peace and violence, justice and injustice. OWS is on the wrong side of all these. Please see this article I wrote concerning OWS and Occupy Oakland if your interested in more of my thinking on this subject: http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/ows-occupy-oakland-lumpenproletariat-mobs-incited-to-revolt-against-the-capitalist-ruling-class/

    • Jon Jon  November 2, 2011 at 11:26 am

      AJ hows D.C working out for you ………..

      ” This difference is all important: it’s the difference between truth and lies, peace and violence, justice and injustice.”

      Try cleaning your own back yard of what you call (“This Difference”) first before you go after others actions ….

      Hell D.C is the center of “lies violence and injustice”

      matter fact AJ…. if D.C was anything but this outrage would not even be …..

    • Mark Are  November 2, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      A bit of trivia…a few years ago a movie called “Independence Day” was viewed where aliens attacked earth. When DC was blasted, the people in the theatre clapped. And that was a theatre in Arkansas, not Solmolia.

    • OS  November 2, 2011 at 11:49 am

      AJ MacMuffin,


      Thinks are just coming apart now, not too much longer. How’s the clan doing these days? Just wait until the info comes out, timing is important….

    • OS  November 2, 2011 at 11:57 am


      I’ll have to take you fishing one of these times, we have special fishing group. I have been fishing with this group for many years, and all over the globe. The secret is using small bait, to catch the middle size fish, and then using them as bait to catch the big fish. Some of our guys prefer this method, although some like to chop the middle size fish in little pieces, and then throw the pieces in to attract the bigger fish. Strange thing, some guys don’t like to fish, they just like gutting the big fish, while others like frying them.

      Hell, the group is so skilled, they only fish at night. Getting ready to plan another trip….soon.

      You can join us if you like. Have to be very quite at night.

    • Gordon Duff  November 2, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      when we get the big fish
      they become


    • OS  November 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      That’s why I keep coming back…..thanks marine.

    • Rob  November 2, 2011 at 11:57 am

      Are you trying to say that OWS needs to commit genocide, murder and rob American citizens and bribe congress in order to protest? And just to clarify, things never got ugly and violent durring the civil rights movement. Rojer, got it.

    • kelli  November 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm

      Actually AJ I’m not interested in reading more of your thinking so I’ll pass on the link, thanks. People have every right to be angry and personally, I’m sick of being polite.

    • barrie w  November 2, 2011 at 5:39 pm

      ok. i’m all over it. but, can’t we have a legit cause? why not “do” wash, dc? why not “do” the pentagon? you have a problem with the oil companies? let’s “protest” there! do everything “war” related! running sandwich shops, and starbucks out of business isn’t “helpn g”.

    • kelli  November 3, 2011 at 7:14 am

      No. The fight is being taken to the big boys on Wall St. People are in DC too its just not getting as much coverage. There was a big campaign to Occupy DC and it was scheduled for early October 2011 but Wall St started in September and kind of pulled the momentum in that direction. That’s ok DC gets huge funding from the bankers. Hit them and you get 2 birds with 1 stone.

  20. Mr. Niceguy  November 2, 2011 at 9:53 am

    “government is and always has been an expression of organized crime.” on this occasion I’ll take a moment to do what they do on European news, sit back and reflect without comment. FYI, I likes it.

    • Jon Jon  November 2, 2011 at 11:38 am

      by the way g …love the intro pic…….just a beaut …….

    • Mark Are  November 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

      I put it this way…GOVERNMENT is the DISEASE masquerading as the cure.

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