Questionable sources: Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts

by Tom Valentine


The following was on the net, from the Sorcha Faal site on the day the rotten pigs in Congress were passing the now famous “Orwell was right act” that destroys the bill of rights.

The website featuring this fictional writer is often accused-accused for being a likely disinformation source.

So, bleeping what! Have we all become paranoid to the point of missing good Information. OMG! Some fool might send them a few bucks, I wont. It’s your business if you do, or don’t.

Now that, that is off my chest, let’s get down to business. First thing— Information is just that—information. It must be tested to see whether it becomes knowledge or blather. How can one test it if one doesn’t read it or see it for oneself?

It irks me to see Internet information destroyed by the oldest trick in the conspirator’s book; Kill the messenger, ignore the message!

Don’t read that bleeper Tom Valentine, he’s a bleeping antisemite and health nut who used to work with Willis Carto, The Spotlight newspaper, the IHR, the Barnes review and Radio Free America. (and Chicago Today and National Tattler).

That has been said many times by folks who don’t want anyone to test information I put out.

Which is why VT became my outlet. I wanted in because the messages are not censored simply because of controversial “sources” It’s the message stupid.

If Joe Stalin said that collectives were best for mankind, we would do what history has done, checked it out, then rejected it. Most have, some have not.

Here is what Sorcha published after our Congress blatantly sold out our Constitution last week:

Seldom in human history is one able to witness epoch making events that forever change the face of the world, but this past week was one of them when The United States of America voted to overturn their once cherished Bill of Rights and for the first time since their founding give absolute power to their military forces to imprison their citizens without charges or trial forever.

Adding insult to injury in this most shocking attack on freedom and liberty the new law passed by the Americans comes exactly 220 years after their Bill of Rights was first put into effect on 15 December 1791 by the First United States Congress.

Nearly every top American official with knowledge and experience spoke out against this new law, including the Attorney General, the Defense Secretary, the Chief of the FBI, the Secretary of State, and the leaders of US intelligence agencies, including John Brennan, the top counterterrorism adviser to President Obama who warned: “We are a country that takes very seriously our commitment to the rule of law. When I go overseas and I talk to other governments, talking to them about making sure that they handle their cases appropriately and not throw people into military detention, not throw them into a military court, hold them indefinitely without the due process of law, this is what has caused a lot of problems overseas. And if we go down this road, we’re sending a very bad signal.”

And it gets worse…much worse!

Quickly following on the heels of the just past law giving the US military control over American civilians is another one that has been described as an Orwellian power grab that would permit their Justice Department to shut down any Internet site it doesn’t like (and cut off its sources of income) on nothing more than a whim in what is described as the most chilling attack on freedom in that nations history.

With these two new laws being pushed through the US Senate and Congress in the closing days of the year over the objections of nearly every high-ranking official, and with President Obama backing down over his early objections and signing them into law, one is left with the question… “Who’s really running the United States anyway?”

To answer that question let’s listen to some of the most important leaders of the last century:

Winston Churchill stated to the London press in 1922: “From the days of Sparticus Wieshophf, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

Woodrow Wilson 28th President of the United States shortly before his death said: “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

The American industrialist Henry Ford said in 1936: “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy, also, stated in 1936: “Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.”

US Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter further stated: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.”

President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter dated November 21, 1933 said: “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US since the days of Andrew Jackson.”

In 1967 Curtis Dall, President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law, wrote in his book FDR: My Exploited Father-In-Law, “For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group. The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve bank.”

(In case folks do not know. Curtis Dall was the co-founder of Liberty Lobby with Willis Carto) back to Sorcha whoever:

To fully understand what these great men were saying you have to understand that these “monsters” who currently rule America, and the entire Western world for that matter, are the enemies of all human beings, and in the only documented case of Jesus Christ ever “going ballistic,” were chased out by Him from the Temple in Jerusalem after He made a whip and overturned their money-changing tables with His yelling at them, “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves!”

The great American Founding Father Thomas Jefferson further warned about these “thieves” and stated: “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

By 1912 the American people had been effectively been brainwashed enough to allow the warnings about these “thieves” to be forgotten thus allowing the banksters to take total control over their country in prompting US Congressmen Louis Thomas McFadden and Charles August Lindbergh Sr. at the time to both clearly state that the “legislative and executive forces” of the United States had been “usurped” (taken over) by an “invisible government” consisting of international “bankers” and “industrialists” acting together to “enslave the world for their own pleasure.”

Since this “invisible government” takeover of the United States nearly a century a go our world has endured two global wars, to many regional wars to document, two great depressions (current one included) and so much misery pain and death to shock even the hardest senses….and it’s only going to get worse!

And the reason it’s going to get worse is because the masses of the American people remain in a state of prolonged unconsciousness, including a lack of response to stimuli, from which it is impossible to rouse them…in other words, they’re in a coma!

If you look at any photo showing the subservient American masses holding their shoes in their hands while waiting to be sexually molested by their airport police shock troops, one would be hard pressed to notice any difference between them and the Jews being led into the cattle cars sending them to their deaths in the Nazi concentration camps….just proving, once again, that dehumanization works as well now as it always has.

The courageous Irish statesman and Member of the British Parliament who supported the American Revolution Edmund Burke once said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” And barely a time since these were uttered are they needed more than today…and not just by anyone, but by YOU TOO!

Every time you do nothing to help the cause of freedom and justice you help the very enemy whose only goal is your total enslavement and destruction.

Every time you fail to spread the TRUTH of what is really happening you become part of the enemy’s propaganda machine.

Every time you fail to support those who are fighting on the front lines and risking everything for your benefit you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

You may think that all is lost, but you couldn’t be more WRONG! Just ask the people of Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia…these “monsters” can be defeated and have been many times before….it just takes good people like YOU to help!

I’m not going to tell you it’s going to be easy, it never has been before, and it won’t be now. But, once YOU, and others like YOU, begin to come out of your comas and realize that unless you join the fight it can be lost the tide will, indeed, turn and the world your children and grandchildren grow up in will be one all of us can be proud of.

For those of you who have followed our efforts for years you know full well that the catastrophic collapse of the global economy, the rising protests and revolutions, and the growing signs of Total World War have all been forewarned and foretold to you about on these pages, and with each warning issued also accompanied by the severest propaganda and lies told against us.

So what? Does anything matter other than the truth? If not, than let this one really sink into your head.

What you just saw was the TRUTH…everything else they’ve told you is a lie. Please stop helping them!

Our needs today are overwhelming and have begun to seriously affect our ability to keep you informed as to what is truly happening so that you’ll be as fully prepared as possible and without your immediate help we can’t survive.

So we’re asking you today to open your hearts to help us so that in some small way YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

And lest you think we’re asking too much please remember, when good people don’t help each other out, evil will surely win. PLEASE don’t let that happen.

With God,

Sister Ciara

Okay, I left the pitch for your few bucks worth of support in. That’s between you and the messenger.

Folks who put information up on the Internet can’t do it for free; if we like the information and test it, sending a few worthless bucks of our walking around money may not be a bad idea,

Everybody has a pitch, Do they not? Here is a site from one of those loathsome broker types, but the information is the key.

Max Keiser Alex Jones and their Lackeys Scamming People AGAIN

I didn’t particularly like to hear that about Keiser, but it is information one can test for himself.

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10 Responses to "Questionable sources: Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts"

  1. Tom Valentine  December 23, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Dan, good post. I have on the drawing board a piece on Humanism and Scientism which is taking a lot of time and research to provide concrete examples. As part of my job for the past 25 years I have perused the technical literature critically; Nature, Science, Chemical & Engineering News, Etc. Years ago, with the advent of 3D spectroscopy, I noticed the creep toward production of a “golem” or artificial/synthetic “life” the world is as much in the grip of this technically marvelous Humanism as it is in the political grip of oxymoron Christian Zionism; I see the Devil’s pincer movement in this pair of activities. We, unsophisticated producers who pay the bills have only faith with which to withstand. Faith will be sorely tested. So reliable information is absolute must.

  2. Mike Kay  December 22, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Starting from the link, I read it, and kept wondering-where’s the beef?
    Lots of vitriol, lots of personal attacks, very short on substance. OK, he hates Jones, Celente, Keiser, Shiff, and all the rest. Big Deal. You said it best, Mr. Valentine, its about reliable information, and Mr. hate offers none.
    In terms of the Sorcha gal, she is wrong about one thing, it wasn’t America that shredded her own constitution. It was not my neighbor, not the cashier at the grocery store, not the guy shoveling snow, it was a largely self-appointed political class that gains entry by debasing themselves for all that illusory money they are constantly stuffing into their pockets, the marionettes who dance when they get their fix of federal reserve notes.

  3. Dan  December 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    The idea of a small, malignant cabal running the show from the shadows isn’t so mysterious, but a function of the relentless concentration of power in the hands of increasingly evil men for over three centuries since the (so-called) Enlightenment. I believe they do have an agenda, which is not only transferring all the wealth and assets of this country, Europe, and Russia into their hands, but also transforming human nature. Sinister Sites (at Vigilant Citizen) has some good articles on the sinister and largely masonic architectural symbolism and “art” that pervades monumental architecture.

    The Bank of America murals, as I recall, depict historic mankind dead and merged fossil-like with the earth, while the new “socialist man” is being directed by an elect from above, with geometric shapes surrounding living people and things, alluding to the genetic modification of this new type of man-kind, to use Alinsky’s term.

    Marx’ “socialist man” is directly tied by him to the golem legend in the Kabbala, in which the rabbis, now secularized, create mankind de novo, as if from clay. As Marx said, this new man will be content with his functional role in society, probably something like well-fed cattle.

    The technology is there to accomplish this today with food and water additives, straightforward starvation with man-made and ready-to-go crop and livestock epidemics, doped immunizations, and soon enough, epigenetic modification of human fetuses to produce a human type without the capacity to imagine anything but its servitude. A recent news story tells of a lethal strain of avian flu recently produced in a Dutch lab, with the cryptocratic tip off that it may be used lying in the observation that security experts are concerned it’s being held locked but unguarded in the lab’s basement.

    Spengler said modern citizens were “mere functions of some monstrous Something” and that was a nearly a century ago. Illuminist Freemasonry was surely the impetus for the French Revolution, and you would think men would have learned by now that empty catchwords like “Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity” or “Change and Hope” are the symbols with which masonry marches the masses into the stockyard and abattoir. The effect of that revolution was the transfer of France’s wealth into the hands of the bankers and their lackeys. While nobles were being beheaded and the mobs burned down the townhouses of the rich in Paris, Revolutionary Guards (essentially hired thugs) stood guard at chosen bankers’ homes and places of business around the clock.

    All secret societies are inherently evil, and so are nearly all elite groups, like think tanks, for that matter. Congress is public theater creating the illusion of democratic government while truly malignant men rig the pulleys and operate the strings from the shadows. The idea the secret knowledge of masonry, largely drawn from the Kabbala according to Pike, is so radiant it would blind or confuse the uninitiated is laughable. Masonry from the top down, that is, from B’nai B’rith down to the knife-and-fork, smellfeast porch brethren at the local lodge, are what they’ve always been, a criminal conspiracy to that operates under the cover of nickel-and-dime benevolence. “Climate change” and “sustainability” seem to be the latest catchwords the malignant bastards are using as road signs to enslavement and extermination of “useless eaters.”

    • uninformedluddite  December 26, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      re: Illumist Freemasonry was surely the impetus for the French revolution

      Today’s Communist method, once again, may be clearly recognized in these words; they could be
      applied to the “capture” of parties, associations and societies in our day without change of a syllable. The extent of Weishaupt’s success is best shown by quotation from the lament uttered, five years after the outbreak of the French revolution, by the Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of German Freemasonry, who had also been an Illuminate. In 1794 he dissolved the order with words of pained surprise:
      “. . . We see our edifice” (i.e., Freemasonry) “crumbling and covering the ground with ruins; we see
      destruction that our hands no longer arrest. . . A great sect arose, which taking for its motto the good and the happiness of man, worked in the darkness of the conspiracy to make the happiness of humanity a prey for itself. This sect is known to everyone; its brothers are known no less than its name. It is they who have undermined the foundations of the Order to the point of complete overthrow; it is by them that all humanity has been poisoned and led astray for several generations . . . They began by casting odium on religion . . . the plan they had formed for breaking all social ties and destroying all order was revealed in all their speeches and acts . . . they recruited apprentices of every rank and in every position; they deluded the most perspicacious men by falsely alleging different intentions. . . Their masters had nothing less in view than the thrones of the earth, and the government of the nations was to be directed by their nocturnal clubs. This is what has been done and is still
      being done. But we notice that princes and people are unaware how and by what means this is being
      accomplished. That is why we say to them in all frankness: the misuse of our Order . . . has produced all the political and moral troubles with which the world is filled today. You who have been initiated, you must join yourselves with us in raising your voices, so as to teach peoples and princes that the sectarians, the apostates of our Order, have alone been and will be the authors of present and future revolutions . . . So as to cut out to the roots the abuse and error, we must from this moment dissolve the whole Order. . . ”
      In this quotation the present narrative has jumped five years ahead of events, in order to show that
      one of the leading Freemasons of that generation, himself a penitent, identified the Illuminati as the authors of the French revolution and of future revolutions. Weishaupt’s success in his declared intention of capturing Freemasonry from within, and the part then played by Illuminist agents inside Freemasonry in directing the revolution, could not be attested by a better authority than the Grand Master of German Freemasonry himself.

      From “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed

  4. Truth Seeker  December 22, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    What plagues the world today?

    What plagues the world today at its very core is fraud. One man falsifying truth (spin) to another in order to manipulate the outcome through others perception/belief in order to enrich one’s self for personal gain. We do this on so many levels and do not even realize it. We even do it to ourselves when trying to justify our needs or ends to a means.

    It typically starts when we are young. We do this when teaching our children values and morals, but lie to them about fictional characters like (Santa, tooth fairy, Easter Bunny…) and when they get old enough we tell them that it was all fun & games, but what impression did that leave on that child regarding the value of truth? Do they learn that perhaps truth is not that important and that their parents think it is ok to lie on occasion? Does this place the groundwork that we/they should expect that in life that sometimes people simply falsify things or lie, but on a subtle level we are conditioned to except that lying, as long as it is a little lie, it is ok? Awareness, Honesty and responsibility should be the core structure of a child’s education, but instead we have them memorize politicized history and propaganda.

    A famous saying from Jesuits 500 years ago and openly bragged about was “give me the first 6-7 years of a child’s life” and they will belong to the church for the rest of their lives. What did they know that science is just starting to understand? This is the fundamental programming (mind conditioning) that is implanted into a Childs operating system for life. Yes, such thoughts and ideas can be changed or rectified, but not easily once they are automatic or planted into the subconscious.

    So then what is the bible (religion) but a book (belief systems) that sets limitations on the human condition? Yes is packed full of moral stories, but in the Old Testament particularly, for every morality taught it is contradicted in one way or another to the point that one can use the bible to justify anything moral or unmoral if one really tried hard enough… So what are religions fundament purpose for Kings, Kingdoms, Governments and Establishments? Are they not just tools to eventually disempowering the human condition by creating the illusion that nothing in this world is possible without the intervention of God, humans are week, have no power and justifies or teaches of a God who selectively chooses when to is right kill, war, steal, cheat, lie, etc… when he so desires and if that was not ridicules enough, he even has a “chosen race” as if any of that would remotely matter in the spiritual realm where supposedly God resides, right? Doesn’t sound like divine planning, sounds more like human planning… so then, who really wrote the bible?

    Then, if that was not enough, we expose our children to a public education system that is nothing more than a propaganda tool for more control and conditioning when it comes to nationality, history, science, social and psychological issues. It isn’t till a child gets to collage that they are exposed to a slightly more realistic view of the world, but again all institutions that regulate and control education were all set up by industrialist like Rockefeller and Carnegie over a century ago not to be a tool for discovering the truth, but a tool for controlling the truth so that they could benefit from the control of knowledge and science.

    Here are just a few examples of our controlled world view:

    1) Illegal to say that you can cure anything
    2) Illegal to own or sell any free energy device (government will not grant a patent), seized for nation security
    3) Humans are not encouraged to think outside the box and challenge conventional beliefs or thought
    4) When you, through critical thinking, come to a different conclusion of subjects or public matters it immediately becomes a conspiracy like 911 and JFK, regardless of the facts.
    5) To say anything that contradicts the generally accepted belief/beliefs, you are marginalized and ridiculed instead of praised and debated, regardless of the evidence.
    6) Americans are constantly told that the, US point of view, is the only point of view and all others are evil.
    7) We all have been trained to concede that 99% of the wealth in 1% of the hands is healthy, American and necessary to have a free and open society.
    8) We all are constantly being conditioned and lied to about what 911 really was/is in allowing the systematic closing down America’s open society and creating the very fascists state that we were told we fought in WWII against Nazi Germany, all in the name of security or national security.

    As you walk through the streets in America, as well as the entire world now, and talk to the common man the same theme seems to be ringing louder and clearer. “All I want is the truth” and I’m tired of being lied to from my government, my educators, the media, people in general and their needs to be a better way. Occupy Wallstreet is a moral movement of the lower 99% looking for justice and equality for everyone, not just the upper 1%. There is no accountability from the upper 1% who own and run the world. They simply do whatever they want, when they want and never pay the price for their mistakes or defrauding the public. It really all boils down to truth vs. fraud/falsehood.

    A new world needs to be created that is based on truth and visibility for all, not just the upper class. Kings, Queens, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Vatican, dictators, billionaires, bankers, politicians… you name it, everyone needs to declare their wealth and interests openly and visibly to all at all times before truth and justice will or can prevail. We need to know where all their wealth has come from and if fraudulently obtained, then redistributed back to those whom they fraudulently took it from. No one should be above another under any circumstances and all need to follow the rule of law or the public should not have to abide by their laws (Ruling class). We need a legal system that is simple and accountable to all mankind! Exclusions and exceptions should only be allowed under general public consensus, not decided by rulers & representatives like the corrupt politicians and the political systems of today.

    Throughout the universe there are advanced societies that share and take care of each other because they have grown up after 100,000’s of years of doing what does not work and understand the importance of family and community. They understand that when everyone is fed, clothed and treated equally, then everyone benefits because ultimately we are all are just fractions of the whole which is one (humanity). When we ignore anyone, then that makes the whole that much weaker. When we do not demand justice for the weak and impoverished, then it is only time till injustice is brought back to us, any or all because what happens over their matters over here. (The oppressor will become the oppressed!)

    There are no limits to what we can create and a future awaits where we cooperate instead of compete, we empower instead of impoverish, love instead of fear, but until that day comes, we will be confined on this tiny planet and its prisoners because we will never be allowed (by others outside of this world) to corrupt the universe with our perversions of the truth. The choice is yours, we can continue down the path of tyranny and injustice and a future where every aspect of life is dictated and regulated by the upper 1% or a future of peace and prosperity where every human is equal and taken care of because we know it is the mature thing to do, not because we are socialist, but because it is what any parent would do for any or all of his or her children.

    A question that is often asked that almost unilaterally is answered correctly. (1)Where do you put humanity as a whole in the comparison of human life cycle? (Infant, Child, Teenager, Adult or Elder) You will be hard pressed to find anyone that would consider us above that of a child in the way we treat each other and conduct our lives. So why don’t we simply grow up?

    One last question: (2)What does it say about Humanity if we possess the technology to comfortably feed, clothe and house every human being in the world today easily, but we do not because of political, ideological and economic reasons? Do you want to reconsider your answer to question (1)?

  5. DaveE  December 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Powerful stuff, Tom. Many thanks to you and VT. Merry Christmas. Fortunately, the “Jews” haven’t succeeded in stealing that, yet, as hard as they may try.

    • foo  December 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      I seems so senseless, when people spray paint a swastika on synagogues. (OK, OK, time after time, the supposed victims have been proved to be the perpetrators.)

      For most people, the NAZI swastika is an icon of evil, and it arouses sympathy for the Jews. Use of the swastika in such a fashion can also be prosecuted as a hate crime.

      On the other hand, for most, wishing people “Merry Christmas” is regarded in a favorable light.

      Thus, does it not make sense to extend this wish to our Jewish brethren, by spray painting MERRY CHRISTMAS on synagogues?

  6. dirtus napus  December 22, 2011 at 10:58 am

    AJ and others haven’t exactly gone overboard stating how little they make per year, but I would be interested to know. His Israeli leanings are just whacked, truly. Arabs run Hollywood? I know all about his wife being jewish, it’s still not enough for his outright lunacy on the subject. As far as Kaiser is concerned, I’ve watched him closely for years, and so far, if he has an agenda, he’s spartan with it thus far. Unless I missed a huge admission of his lately.

    I can’t make any excuses for Wilson’s inherant myopia on the Federal Reserve, I rate him very low. He’s responsible for where we are. He was the Chief.

    • Tom Valentine  December 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

      Dirtus, I think Churchill was well acquainted with his named villians, so I hope this is not taken as a plaudit for him either.

  7. larshansson  December 22, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Pretty amazing, Tom, that after more than 40 years we’re still on the same page. I’ve been telling people this for much of that time, that these things are NOT a parlor game — this time it really IS for all the marbles. I am re-reading your earlier article’s link to Charlie Samples’s book, which dovetails so closely with my own research lo, these many years ago back in Illinois, when I first began to (borrowing the words of an old compatriot LTC Gritz) “extract my cranium from my anal orifice.”. First order of business is to truly “know thy enemy.” Along these lines, many folks are now advocating a 28th Amendment to forever rescind the Citizens United Supreme Court judgment. A damn good start. Next item would be to remove all but a handful of our current House and Senate, along with the Chief Occupier and the Supremes. Double the penalties for all criminal convictions of any elected or appointed official on the public dole. Mandatory random alcohol and drug tests for all sworn police officers, judges and DAs. Immediate firing for violators.. I could go on and on, but you get the point. There have always been millions more of US than there are of THEM since feudal times. Using religion, the overseers no longer had to rely on the threat of brute force quite as much, since they had now handily trained their peons to whip themselves… People really MUST wake up from the American Dream. Like the song says “Thjey have the guns, but WE have the numbers…” I salute all of you True Patriots here at VT, Tom, for bringing ALL of these truths to light at no insignificant peril to yourselves. As the man said, we either hang together or we will surely hang separately. Your place in Valhalla is more assured on a daily basis…

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