Near and After Death Experience is a State of Soul Consciousness ~ That is Deepest Within us All

The center of convergence in a near-death experience

The phenomenon associated with the near and after death experience indicates that a state of unconditional love and soul consciousness lies not only beyond death ~ but also beneath our deepest fears. Thus, death is an illusion measured by the limits and depth of our consciousness and we resist this awareness at our individual and collective peril:

 

by Allen L Roland, Ph.D.

 

 God is Love ~ an evolutionary process with which we all participate as co-creators and this is an empowering  truth we can no longer deny.

 Dr. Eban Alexander’s Near Death Experience, as revealed in his recently published book Life Beyond Death says the same thing as he describes God as Love ~ I now fully understand the meaning of unconditional love ~ and the intensity and personal nature of that deity is the divine spark within each one of us. ”     See eight minute video  

The key to accessing and maintaining this state of love, bliss and soul consciousness is living in a state of love, gratefulness and service ~ which is apparently what Eban is doing and I most certainly am doing.

P.M.H Atwater in her book Beyond The Light: What Isn’t Being Said About Near Death Experiences, describes other commonly reported feelings, similar to Dr Alexander’s NDE, that seem to be inherent in these experiences; “Theirs is the thrill of being engulfed in total, overwhelming love beyond precedent, beyond description, a feeling of oneness and worth, of total freedom and acceptance. No stipulations, conditions, or criteria ~ just boundless, infinite, all-encompassing love, so forgiving, so total, so immense that nothing can contain it… they lose all fear of death, for they know it ends nothing but the physical body and its facade of personality”

Atwater also reports a typical sense of mission or purpose that lingers, like an after-effect, in those who have returned from this state of inner bliss: ” What keeps us here is the knowledge that we have more to learn, a job to do or a task to perform ~ and that somehow we must get on with it….. Our sense of mission is coupled with the awareness of our integral part in a divine or greater plan ~ no matter how mundane or insignificant our parts may be.”

It is my belief that the NDE is really a state of unconditional love and soul consciousness that lies not only beyond time and space but also deepest within us all ~ which I prove every day in my transformation work with my clients as well as Combat veterans with PTSD. It happens in only seven sessions because they knowingly sense that beneath their deepest pain and unworthiness is joy, intention and purpose as well as a state of soul consciousness ~ and they access it through gratefulness.

Teilhard de Chardin knew that this truth would eventually be revealed ~ that death was only a curtain hiding a point of convergence both within us and beyond us.

Teilhard’s life work was the reinterpretation of Christianity in the light of evolution, but his great life dilemma was that very few people could understand the truths that were so obvious to him, and myself for that matter ~ that God is love.

Teilhard knew what lay beyond death decades before the well documented wave of near and after death experiences that have become a modern day phenomenon. He yearned for some sign or signal to be given from beyond death ~ so that others might know what he knew. In that vein, he wrote in Activation of Human Energy ~ ” How comforting and ‘electrifying’ it would be if some signal or sign, some summons or echo, should come to us from beyond death ~ and give us positive assurance that some center of convergence really does exist ahead of us. “

Teilhard also wrote on the last page of his personal journal three days before he died ” The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death “

It would seem that we are now receiving many signals and numerous signs that this center of convergence, in the form of peace, unity, light and love, does indeed lie beyond death.

Here’s a short two minute YouTube video of a typical out of body death experience ~  ~ but also confirming the heart connection.

The late Dr Elizabeth Kubler Ross, the internationally respected expert on the psychiatric dimensions of dying, claimed that she had proof that ” there is life after death “ on the basis of hundreds of documented near-death experiences.

Dr Raymond Moody wrote in his book Life After Death about the common experiences of those who have gone through a near-death experience ~ ( along with my notes.)

 A feeling of rapidly moving through a long dark tunnel.( My Note: ( passing through the ego cocoon )

  Glimpsing the spirits of relatives and friends who have died ( My note: obviously, this would indicate a state of consciousness that exists beyond time and space )

 The experience of a deeply loving non-judgmental spirit of brilliant light. ( My note: love and soul consciousness )

 A panoramic play back of the major events of one’s life with the general feeling of being asked ” What have you done with your life ? ” ( My Note: We are not judged but instead we judge ourselves )

Dr Moody also noted how many of these people reacted after surviving their near-death experience ~ ” When I got back, “ one man said, ” I had this overwhelming desire to do something for other people. I was so ashamed of all the things I had done or hadn’t done in my life. “

 Once again, it would appear that these people have experienced a state of soul consciousness and their innate connection to the Unified Field. As such, they suddenly become aware that they have a function within this loving plan and whether or not they have fulfilled it.

Thus, It is increasingly obvious that most people are afraid of dying because they are aware of the incompleteness of their own lives.

Many years ago, George Gallup Jr surveyed a cross section of Americans ~ asking them if they’d had a near-death experience. He found that 23 million people in the United States have had a verge of death experience and of that number, 8 million have had some sort of mystical encounter with the near-death experience. The common experiences were, once again, falling rapidly through a long, dark tunnel to a place of light, oneness with all, no sense of time and space and a profound feeling of peace and being unconditionally loved.

Please also note that over 50% of Americans, including myself, have had an after-death experience ~ where they experience the presence of a loved one who has recently passed away.

 There can be no question that the mystical and near-death experience is now an accepted and well documented phenomenon. A phenomenon, I would add, that modern science struggles to understand. The existence of a Unified Field of love and soul consciousness offers an explanation to this quandary by stating that the near-death experience is, in reality, a state of soul consciousness that lies both within us and beyond our present state of ego consciousness.

 It is my premise that the near death experience allows someone to momentarily pass through the dark tunnel of internal pain, aloneness, despair and apparent death ( from which the ego and ego consciousness is born ) into a state of soul consciousness and our deepest connection to the Unified Field .

As a licensed therapist, with over 35 years experience of dealing with people’s deepest fears and anxieties, I can unequivocally state that the experience of surrendering to one’s deep and long repressed feelings of pain, alienation, aloneness and despair is almost always initially experienced as a dark tunnel of never-ending pain which leads to death ~ and must be avoided at all costs.

Poet David Whyte calls it the Well Of Grief ~ ” Those who would not slip beneath the still surface of the well of grief, turning downward through its black water to the place we cannot breath ~ will never know the source from which we drink, the secret water, cold and clear nor find in the darkness glimmering ~ the small round coins thrown by those who wished for something else. “

 Note that the small round coins that David refers to in his poem is the treasure that lies beneath the well of grief ~ a treasure that can only be accessed through gratefulness.

 For it is only the ego and fear that gradually die in the well of grief while joy and a true sense of self emerge from hiding like a phoenix rising from the ashes. It is no different than being pulled into a black hole in space ~ except that the black hole is within ourselves but beneath it is immense joy, intention and purpose striving to reach the surface.

 Just as Stephen Hawking has suggested that black holes may in essence become white holes at a point of singularity, where all notions of time and space break down ~ so I am claiming that at the end of the black hole of despair within ourselves ~ we also reach a point of singularity, where all notions of time and space break down and we become one with a Unified Field of unconditional love and soul consciousness.

 The same thing happened to myself over 40 years ago when I fully surrendered to my own well of grief and tumbled through a rabbit hole into my own singularity and a state of love and soul consciousness ~ wherein my life became inner directed, versus outer directed, and my heart became my guide from a place of service.

 Elizabeth Kubler Ross was correct when she wrote ~ ” Death may be viewed as the curtain between the existence we are conscious of and one that is hidden from us until we raise the curtain .”

 My own mother is proof of this statement for she suddenly and unexpectedly died in 1987 a few months after reading my paper on the Unified Field. But she appeared to me at the moment of her death, some 3000 miles away, sitting on my bed and lovingly saying these words to me ~ ” Allen , I Know, Allen I Know .. “

 That was my after-death experience with my mother but it really was a gift from my mother telling me that she now fully understood what I had courageously shared with her and the world.

 What then is the meaning of this human journey that seemingly begins with birth, moves through life and seemingly ends in death ? Why wait for the final curtain to fall in order to understand who we are and why we are here ?

 We can raise that curtain now by fully surrendering to love, pass through our deepest fears and pain, and enter into a grateful state of soul consciousness ~ the “electrifying sign” at our core which always summons and beckons to us.

In so doing, we will pass through the black hole of ego consciousness that shields us from the light on the other side ~ the light of the Unified Field and a state of soul consciousness that is always shining at our hidden depths.

That’s why we have never forgotten Jesus ~ because Jesus was the manifestation of that same deep love and state of soul consciousness but, I would add, a deep love and state of soul consciousness that is also deepest within each one of us.

Thus, death is an illusion measured by the limits and depth of our consciousness and only love can and will reveal this truth ~ and we resist this truth at our individual and collective peril.

 We are put on Earth a little space to bear the beams of love: William Blake


About the Author: Allen L Roland is a Freelance Alternative Press Online columnist. He is also a practicing psychotherapist, author and lecturer who also shares a daily political and social commentary on his web site at AllenRoland.com. He also guest hosts a Truthtalk, a national radio show that airs monthly. He is available for comments, interviews, speaking engagements and private consultations via email at [email protected].



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35 Responses to "Near and After Death Experience is a State of Soul Consciousness ~ That is Deepest Within us All"

  1. LC  November 14, 2012 at 9:29 am

    I’v heard of some Muslims that Islam also believes in reincarnation for perfection of the soul (hopefully moving in the right direction)…

    • Allen L Roland  November 14, 2012 at 11:39 am

      Right on, LC ~ that would make sense in that each lifetime we take a step or perhaps several steps towards being one with a loving plan or source. As Mafouz once wrote ~ ” When the heart acheives its desire you shall transcend time and space ” but Rumi really nailed it ~ “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”

  2. lola  November 6, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Look out. There are liars on the other side. Native Americans and Shaman call them Trickster Spirits. Stay aware. That is the reason Tibetans value dying consciously. Buddha spoke of breaking the cycle of “reincarnation” ie Amnesia Recycle Prison Planet. The New Age is Crap. Stay away from that flowery bullpuckey. That stuff is a lie. If you drop acid/DMT/Mushrooms you become aware of the Veil. It is not easy to maneuver the spiritual landscape.Most do not make it and come back with their life erased.

  3. sumwoman  November 6, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    some may find this lecture quite interesting

    Scientist Todd Murphy discusses “Darwinian Reincarnation”, a hypothesis that treats rebirth as a human behavior from the perspective of biological evolution.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2uZkPzJrZc

    • Allen L Roland  November 14, 2012 at 11:29 am

      Good video, Sunwoman ~ however, Murphy’s interpretation of the Near Death Experience omits the general expoerience of an overwhelming unconditional love and he fails to identify the dark tunnel as a place of ego consciousness and the light at the center being our original state of soul consciousness.
      Without acknowedging the power of love, many of these theories of NDE’s and even Reincarnation lack personal immediacy and relevance.

  4. NavyBrat  November 6, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    I’m glad you brought that up. Most references to reincarnation (Origen etc) were expunged from Biblical texts when the Council of Nicea (325 AD) under the Roman Emperor Constantine was assembling what was to become the New Testament. As the Roman Empire was about to cloak itself in Christianity as a tool of social control and government, any reference to reincarnation – which tended to undermine fear of death (the primary instrument of control), had to be removed.

    • Allen L Roland  November 14, 2012 at 10:59 am

      Absolutely true, NavyBrat ~ fear of death is the ultimate tool of the Catholic Chuch ( Original Sin ) as well as Christianity. Reincarnation makes total sense within an evolving loving plan where we pick up where we left off in each lifetime until we become one within a universal loving plan. I know for certain that I was alive in Paris during the French revolution and I also know that I know people in this lifetime that I knew in past lifetimes ~ which makes complete sense within a universal loving plan that exists beyond time and space.

  5. markboughton  November 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Leary wrote The Tibetan Book of the Dead…?

    Crikey, I didn’t realise he was born that long ago.

    • NavyBrat  November 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm

      CrikeyMate! I think you’ll find it was more like “A Treatise on the Tibetan Book of the Dead.”

  6. Not Clueless  November 6, 2012 at 11:49 am

    One of the most extrodinary NDE was that of Pam Reynolds – experienced during an operation for a brain aneurysm in which all her vital processes were monitored while being put into a state of clinical death. Most interesting to me was when she was in what she perceived to be heaven, she ‘asked’ those around her if the bright light was God? Their reply: No, the light is what happens when God BREATHES. She was then struck by the thought that she was standing in the breath of God.
    See _http://www.examiner.com/article/operation-standstill-the-nde-of-pam-reynolds

    Based on the many and varied sources I’ve purposely or otherwise encountered in pursuit of truth, I believe in reincarnation and that Jesus spoke of it (believe I picked that up from Secrets of the Bible on TV) but was not included in the official Bible as it was formulated. I believe the reason we have lost the ability to remember our past lives is the result of ‘the fall’ – which was the accepting of ‘limitations’ as well as a conversion from a Service to Others to a Service to Self reality. Along the way we also lost our ability to connect with our higher selves/entities through the utilization of our ‘third eye’ or pineal gland – a gland horribly calcified into uselessness by the uptake of fluoride.

    I believe God helps those who help themselves and key to human survival will be our turning the tide from Service to Self to Service to Others. We must recognize all the traps that humankind has been led into, the vast amount of lies that have created an artificial reality, and realize we are dealing with nonhuman entities – psychopaths – whose animalistic, dominating nature will destroy us all if we don’t soon get the upperhand.

    God bless you Allen for what you are accomplishing. May the day come when man-created PTSD – and war – is no more,

    • DaveE  November 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      In several Gospels Christ told very clearly that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah.

  7. liberty1776  November 6, 2012 at 9:40 am

    there have also been countless near-death-experiences of those who have experienced darkness & terror & separation from God & peace. Allen, while his intentions are good, deceives. i realize it is popular on here to demonize ‘organized’ religion & Biblical theology, but over 360 prophecies were accurately & divinely fulfilled in Jesus Christ, as the atonement for the sins of the world, for all who call upon Him, believing in Him as God in the flesh, risen bodily from the dead. For those that live in Him, move in Him, have their being in Him, they will enter into eternal life & rest.

    “self-awareness” is a dead end. People are broken, tired and have come to the end of ‘themselves’ and need a loving Creator to embrace them & give them eternal rest. This new-age smarmy sugary syrup is the work of the one ‘light-bearer’ lucifer who comes as an angel of light to deceive the whole world. don’t be duped by this fodder. Embrace the true Light of the world, Jesus Christ. The Word made flesh, the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form, who led captivity captive and calls on YOU, this day, to embrace & believe in Him, for He is the only one who has destroyed the power of sin, death, hell & the grave. Do NOT gamble on smarmy self-awareness – it is deception.

    Allen, I am sure you are a kind person with good intentions, but u need to step back & re-evaluate. U believe what u believe and feel good about it, that is to be expected as satan & his minions will not torment one who is leading others down the path of destruction. as the Lord tells us – ‘there is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is destruction.’

    destruction.

    • Allen L Roland  November 6, 2012 at 10:00 am

      Liberty ~ when we see Jesus as divinely human and a manifestation of unconditional love we are also seeing a reflection of ourselves at our deepest core ~ beneath the fear, unworthiness and shame based guilt. It’s so easy to externalize God and Jesus but it takes great courage to internalize Jesus by fully surrendering to love and living with a grateful heart. In other words, we embrace Jesus when we fully embrace our equally divine self. There is no such thing as an ugly soul but there are many wounded and maimed ones who are controlled by fear.

    • DaveE  November 6, 2012 at 10:28 am

      ….. and controlled by ego, too. So many Christians, for example, in their lust to say they have all the answers and that everyone else is FOS, drag everyone down to their level. They have a NEED to think that everyone is as shallow, weak, undisciplined and incapable of advancement as they are. Other religions are even worse.

      Like a typical arrogant teenager telling his parents and teachers that they don’t know what they’re talking about. Egotism to the tenth power .

    • Gary Walker  November 6, 2012 at 2:14 pm

      Liberty,
      The only prophecy in the Bible that was ever fulfilled was when Jesus said, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

      Amen,
      Infidel

    • Subvet416  November 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm

      He may have been speaking in an astronomical parable. Most the ancients thought that Earth was the center of the universe and that the sun, moon and stars all revolved around it. A very few, well-educated “wise men” knew this was not so.

      The constellation of Orion is one of the most visible of all the constellations and is known to all who study the stars. One of the stars in Orion’s sword is not a star at all, it is a nebula, with a black hole at its heart, which gives birth to millions of new stars far beyond our galaxy.

      If Jesus knew this about Orion’s sword, he knew that such knowledge would not bring peace to the self-centered inhabitants of Earth, most of whom were not ready to hear the truth that could set them free.

    • Subvet416  November 7, 2012 at 5:59 pm

      Detailed explanation by Dan Winter here: http://www.goldenmean.info/orion/orionheart.html

  8. Allen L Roland  November 6, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Thanks, boonie rat ~ That’s my mission in life and that’s what I do in my counseling work, particularly with Vets with PTSD ~ I’m training light workers who by opening their closed hearts begin to see through different eyes as well sense their real purpose in life.

  9. boonie rat 70  November 6, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Mr. Roland , thanks for being a beacon in the dark. giving people ‘ tools for life ‘ is great work ,and sadly missing for the greater population who cannot fathom the reasons for repeated failures due to simple ignorance of practical matters both in spirituality and life skills.

  10. Subvet416  November 6, 2012 at 4:52 am

    Those who don’t feel this love pulling them like a river, those who don’t drink dawn like a cup of spring water or take in sunset like supper, those who don’t want to change, let them sleep. This love is beyond the study of theology, that old trickery and hypocrisy. If you want to improve your mind that way, sleep on. I’ve given up on my brain, I’ve torn the cloth to shreds and thrown it away. If you’re not completely naked, wrap your beautiful robe of words around, and sleep. — Rumi

    • Allen L Roland  November 6, 2012 at 8:32 am

      And speaking of that river ~ “When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy.” Rumi

  11. xx  November 5, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    There is no such thing as death, life is infinite.

    It was year 2000,

    I was in large lawsuit regarding some technology I developed during this time. And contractors were hired to harass my family 24/7; however, something extraordinary occurred in the fall of this year. I may seem defensive at times, but this due to continuous threats during this period and years thereafter and to date.

    I made some attempts to tell this story, maybe segments here and there for several years, and give the papers written after this event to my wife’s sister. I can not remember all the detail recorded after this incident, but documented as much as possible. Before explaining, some acknowledgement, I do not dedicate myself to any religion, but believe there is some good in all. Having said this, I will attempt to explain this event in terms of some science, engineering, and experience.

    During the fall of 2000, I had fallen asleep on my sofa for about four hours or more during mid day. And during this time something extraordinary occurred, so here’s some attempt to explain this event and incident.

    I appeared in a chamber “Darkness” (gateway), and remained in this location for some time, until overcoming my fear and reaching some “Heightened state of consciousness”. The chamber was completely dark inside, and appeared as an endless empty void. However, in this chamber images were projected and appeared to make one believe their body was to be harmed. I had no control over this dream state that was occurring in this chamber, but realized after time nothing here can harm me, because this state of condition seemed to be created with use of projected images, illusions (so overcame the fear). Once the next state of condition occurs (difficult to explain) your senses and clarity are heightened to an extreme level. Or another way of explaining this would as awakening from a dream, but remaining within this dream state (or the real world). When this conditioned state of consciousness occurs, the chamber opens, and thereafter a corridor appears similar to the picture shown above in article. There appeared to be no mechanical parts in this chamber, but some type of gateway entrance system.

    This corridor had light glimmering through the entrance (gateway), so while moving down this corridor, I noticed something unusual right away. I could no longer see my arms or body, and was not certain what happened. But my life energy separated from body (biological matter) and was the purpose of this dark chamber (gateway). Later some of the entities explained this process as necessary to separate life energy from biological matter, as to prevent the physical body (life energy and biological matter) from going into biological shock. This was the purpose of the “Darkness” chamber or first gateway, of the three gateways in this vessel. First gateway is to separate life energy from biological matter, the second to enter vessel, and third to recombine matter and energy for returning.

    Continuing, while moving down the corridor a voice asked “What would you do to change this”? I decided not to say anything because it seemed this entity was reading my mind, so continued and approached the “Light” entrance (gateway) to the main vessel. The reason for calling this area a “vessel” is an entity inside said it was near earth vessel. I walked inside and remained close to the gateway entrance, and there was five entities inside and appeared human. They could see me, and I could see them, but could not see myself. These human entities were very special, and their intelligence was far greater then anything on earth. The environment inside the vessel was vast, and not of material construction, but utopia beyond the imagination. I stayed close to the gateway because this utopia environment was pulling me inward, a place you really do not wish to leave. These entities were universal beings, with extraordinary intelligence, and made you feel special as well.

    The entities started asking questions, and were concerned with peoples on earth and our civilization as whole. Thereafter, they started educating me with some basic principles and other information. They stated advanced civilizations see “Many as one”, and primitive see “One as many”, they further stated advanced civilizations “Look outward” and primitive “Look inward”, and these were basic universal principles and guidelines. It would much require time to write everything, so will limit this subject matter. Nearly everything they stated seemed the inverse as practiced on earth, their ideology was extremely advanced but simple. They said the human civilization on earth was God to them, because the peoples as whole are the body. They stated, if one human harms another, they harm the body of god. They stated civilizations are one body, and how they observe the civilizations, something to this affect. They spoke as though peoples on earth were their children, and also relating to one of their principles where advanced civilizations see “Many as one”. They also said, there is no such thing as death, no human dies, only life energy is separated from biological matter, “life is infinite” they stated.

    They also stated leadership is an earthly concept, and they use advisers, because all are leaders here. It appeared the ideology as practiced on earth was the inverse of what they stated throughout this discussion. They also spoke about misuse of earthly materials, and this related to warfare. There was much more discussion, but after time, one entity came forward and stated their solution. The other entities wished for other methods, but this entity stated it was time. This entity said they will place an “entity” on earth, a “thing” that was not human, but would have superior intelligence. And further stating, the different between this entity and humans would be “no emotion”, and the reason was humans will make the decision for their destiny. This “entity or thing” would have no emotion so as to use its superior intelligence to guide the civilization toward good or complete destruction. The entity standing forward stated, they can not interfere with the outcome of this knowledge, but if bad, all who fight against this evil will enter the “Light”, the gateway to vessel. And furthermore, if bad, before the body is destroyed all children from this planet will be removed through the light as well. The entity further stated, if good becomes, your world will become one with all. After hearing this, I stepped backward and through the gateway, down the corridor and back again.

    I won’t write anything here anymore, but believe something is on earth. I know all humans have the ability to enter these gateways, and have always and this ability. Maybe the hidden secret, sorry for using the space.

    • Subvet416  November 6, 2012 at 5:07 am

      The “Stargate” concept has been described at length by Hollywood, Dan Winter http://www.goldenmean.info and VT’s own Gordon Duff.

  12. markboughton  November 5, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Can his neuro-physiological and neuro-anatomical models explain the memories I brought back with me when I woke up this morning ?

    I think not.

    Also, I would like to point out that it has often been claimed that the Buddha ‘believed’ in re-incarnation. I find this impossible to accept. The Buddha’s message was that the state of ‘Enlightenment’ was one of omnipresent direct experience or panoramic awareness, achieved through the transformation of the filter we know of as ‘ego’, a defense mechanism we develop as children to create an individual self-awareness necessary for our development and an initial understanding of our interaction with the physical world, through the practice of meditation.
    An Enlightened person, if asked “What happens after you die ?” would inevitably reply that they would learn the answer when they actually died. This is the basis of the teachings found in such books as The Tibetan Book of the Dead in which the dying person is encouraged to maintain a clear and conscious state throughout the transition from life to death, and not directed to anticipate an imagined process or destination.

    I believe that ‘Jesus’ understood this also, as evidenced by his teaching that the ‘Kingdom of Heaven is within’. I am convinced that here he is speaking of the Enlightened state. I will say again, there is only one message.

    Any conjecture is egotism, the ego wishing for its own immortality, but the ego itself is no more than an extraordinarily manipulative grand illusion.

    • boonie rat 70  November 6, 2012 at 8:12 am

      As the Buddah remarked, ‘ believe no one , not even me , but find out for yourself ‘, puts the ball back in your court ,so to speak.

    • markboughton  November 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm

      Not at all.

      That is exactly what I am saying here.

    • markboughton  November 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm

      Belief in anything requires a disconnect from direct experience, or ‘what is’.

      There is you and then there is your belief.

      Therefore it is dualistic, or egotism.

      ‘Meditation’ is ‘mindfulness’, or applying oneself completely to one’s experience, whether it be washing the dishes, sitting on the floor observing one’s breath, or dying. This is what he means by ‘find out for yourself’.
      When you are wholly in the moment there is no room for anything other than awareness.
      When you are wholly engrossed in a movie or a book for example, or a battle, for that matter, this is an experience of the egoless state, a sample of ‘Enlightenment’. Your actions are in fact responses and therefore pure.

      Matthew 6.27 – Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature ?

  13. lola  November 5, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    New Age Pollyanna “all is love” “we have a divine purpose” sells a lot of books and videos but does not explain the horrid state of our world if “we have been learning our lessons”. I call BS. This is a Prison Planet and our lives are erased when we “go to the light”. Then we are shot down into bodies and do it again. Over and over and over again. That is the point of breaking the cycle and trying to get out/off this Prison Planet. Search Dark Lords on you tube and search Interview with an Alien and also Matrix Revealed by Truman Cash on the web if you want more info in this direction. It explains a LOT more than this flowery nonsense. I call it nonsense as it goes nowhere. The amnesia that reincarnation contains refutes any “lessons” we are “learning”. It is bs. This is a prison. Do not go to the light.

  14. Dan  November 5, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    This is a moving piece, Allen, and thanks. In 1977 I had a near fatal surfing accident in which I broke 5 cervical vertebrae and got a hairline skull fracture from front to back. I was suspended immobile under water in a paralyzed-like state, unable to move my limbs, when I had the out-of-body experience, beginning with a feeling of calm and no fear of death at all, then floating effortlessly above the water, and finally able to fly over the beach to where my wife and children were sitting, looking down on them and able to later relate what they were doing, before returning to the water when I was able to move my legs and get to the beach and be taken to the hospital in an ambulance. I also experienced the movement toward the indescribably bright light and encounter with someone whom I didn’t see but thought might be my dead brother. I was in total darkness when the light appeared, small at first like a pinpoint, but becoming increasingly bright until I was engulfed in total light, calm, and sense of peace that was interrupted by a voice telling me to go back. It was nothing like a dream.

  15. lola  November 5, 2012 at 11:46 am

    The New Age vision of this is a “purposeful” reincarnation. We are “in a school” “to learn”. So, I guess we have “learned a lot” ha ha. BS! This is a lie. Well the other side of that is we are on a Prison Planet and get recycled with erased memories. It is a San Quentin/Terminal Island with souls that cannot physically (yes physically) get out of Earth’s Grid. The “visions of love” “relatives” “Jesus/Krishnas/Mohammeds/Elohim (for the Mormons)” that we encounter after death are mechanical holograms. “Going to the Light” is the Memory Erasure Machine that zaps you back to earth as a baby, helpless, brainless and vapid, and “time to do it again”. We learn NOTHING. It is a Prison. Here are some links to contemplate this Horror (as Kurtz would put it):

    Dark Lords Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXp2D2m32FM

    Alien Interview (prison planet/Custodian ET’s)
    http://www.alieninterview.org/

    Truman Cash’s Site (prison planet concept/custodians are ET) Two great free books to download for free. EYE OF RA is my favorite. The other is Programming of a Planet.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/

    • NavyBrat  November 6, 2012 at 11:03 am

      Old Russian Proverb:
      “When the bear has your leg in its mouth – THEN you know it’s true.”
      Until that time, you’ll believe what you will.
      What you are describing could be perceived as Hell – and you have condemned yourself to it, until your experience teaches you otherwise.

  16. DaveE  November 5, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Very true. But we must also remember that, like Jesus, we are love trapped in a human body in a very imperfect world because WE GOT WORK TO DO!

    Once we realize the purpose of our existence here on Earth, the ego takes a back seat naturally.

    • Gary Walker  November 5, 2012 at 3:58 pm

      So Dave ol Buddy,

      What is this mysterious purpose?

      Agape,
      Infidel

    • DaveE  November 5, 2012 at 4:32 pm

      Nothing personal, GW, but if you have to ask me you obviously haven’t found it, yet.

    • etominusipi  November 5, 2012 at 9:31 pm

      sweet answer.

      Gary, why mysterious? – Dave just said purpose. within is certainly different – you don’t have to go very far to see how artificial and inadequate is our ordinary experience of what we think of as ‘ourself’, you feel something a bit like shame at having been so deluded. yet, until our time comes, a powerful psychic force pulls us back here – we need the comfort of re-embodiment even while aware that to come back is a kind of ‘chickening out’.

      any kind of experience in this dimension makes you realize the ego is a tool, a vehicle. it needs fuel, maintenance etc. but to set it on a pedestal and make a little god of it is the great mistake. correct that mistake and your purpose will not be mysterious. nor will you think it can be defined in words. every tiny seed knows that. yes, knows.

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