Jewish Lobby Bullying Exposed in Australia

Over reacting to the Palestinian UN Vote is Confirming the Jewish Bully Stereotype


         … by  Jim W. Dean, VT Editor                         and  Press TV


November 29th, 2012 – The Big Day

When people get rattled they always tend to make poor quick decisions. We are now seeing a pattern of this as the Israeli lobbies are openly exposing themselves as agents for a foreign government. Guess Who?

Australia, like Britain could easily be described as under the political heels of their respective Jewish lobbies. Canada is worse. It is totally occupied.

It took foreign intelligence operations many years of work to do this as you have to neutralize the country’s counterintelligence and judicial systems from prosecuting you. This is always done via political espionage along with the old fashioned blackmail.

Politicians are well known for having well stocked scandal closets. There is no sealed record that the Lobby people cannot get. A  juvenile problem you had when you were 13 with an 11 year old girl, a son’s date rape case handled quietly, a sealed divorce record, medical records…the Lobby people can just dial in a request to Israeli Intel and they will have it to them in week. Welcome to the real world.

Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has a long record of being in the Israeli Lobby bag. So many are, there it is not even a negative taint any more. On the contrary, if you are not, that taints you.

Julia Gillard

But something strange is going on now. It seems her cabinet is showing a desire to get out from under the Lobby boot heel on their necks with an abstention on today’s Palestinian UN vote.

The bullies know a landslide majority will vote with the Palestinians, so they have moved on to damage control.

In the process they have revealed their major Achilles heel, one that had been out there all this time but ignored due solely to the spinelessness of Western jurisprudence.

The militant Iraelis are terrified of being dragged into the Hague for a series of War Crimes  and Crimes Against Humanity charges, the proceedings for which could easily go on for a decade.

They also know that it would be open season payback time, as all the Intel agencies, the retired people who took classified material home on proof of Israeli crimes which other governments aided and abetting in hiding from prosecution. All of this material would flow out like a dam break.

We have seen the U.S. and Britain doing back flips, not to keep the PA out of the UN, but to not let them have legal status to even pursue Crimes Against Humanity charges against individual Israelis.

For the U.S. to have been engaged in the scale of obstruction of justice like this is a stain that will never wash out. One could easily call this Israeli War Crimes Denial.

Democrat and Republican administrations have both allowed this to go on, and Veterans Today will debate anyone they would want to sacrifice that the policy severely hurt our national security and we, especially our military, have been paying for it dearly. But we are not alone.

No western country prosecutes Israeli espionage operations, making massive recruiting a piece of cake.  No one is afraid to work with them. On the contrary, it is consider smart business in most places.

Why would any free country shame themselves by obstructing this vote? What do they fear? Invasion from Palestine?

As you will read below, the Austrailain Jewish Lobby is demanding a meeting with PM Gillard in a very public attempt to show the Austrailian people who really rules their country in these matters. This is the poor quick decision I refered to above. Why?

Because they did it in conjunction with the Israeli Embassy counter attack, without any pretense they were voicing concerns as Australian Jews, or stretching it, dual citizens…but as Israeli agents.

I have never accepted the concept of dual loyalty with the Lobby people. They obviously have one loyalty and demonstrate that over and over.

The Lobby polls refute this, and of course their respondees are just lying. What pro Israeli Jew would admit in a poll that their primary loyalty was to Israel? Would that make exploiting their host country easier or harder?

The intelligence community has considered militant Judaism and Zionism to be major national security threats for decades.  As I said above, political espionage and corruption have cut our counterintelligence people off at the pass at rolling up the Israeli networks and their ‘helpers’. The result would include a large number of prosecutions not only in the political establishment, but the judicial and military, also.

We have strong indications that a military house cleaning is in progress, and Obama has extended it to all branches of government. See Gordon Duff’s recent work on how American corporate media is totally ignoring this historical presidential directive.

Who am I talking about?…well known members of Congress,  including some very high up ones and past White House executives. The same situation exists in Canada, Britain, and Australia to varying degrees. But what could be a huge surprise, that no one saw coming, is that Australia could be the first to get off it’s knees and explain to this small group of disloyal citizens, that:

“No, we are no longer going to reward you 50 to 100 times the influence of your fellow Australian citizens. There is not a bus that long for them to go to the back of. It’s time YOU went to the back of the bus, those of you who aren’t going to jail.”

I am not hyping the jail part either. There is a little thing called data-mining, which you never hear much about. It can snag up 99% of these folks as they have been sloppy in the first place, feeling they were non prosecutable, and thus have huge communications and transactions records waiting to be mined. How long does this take to do, for a person?…a day or two.

There would be some jurisdiction issues, particularly on foreign collected material. But because many of these Jewish Lobbies do have their host countries constantly under attack, a good case could be made for using anti-terrorism laws to prosecute them.

Ask any intelligence officer who people in power are more afraid of…the cartoon character terrorists that we are presenting in the ongoing War on Terror Kabuki theater or the Israeli Lobby people. What do you think those who are not Christian Zionists would say?

*** News just in.  Hague says Britain may abstain from UN vote. Looks like the campaign to explain they would all embarrass the concept of self determination by voting against the Palestinians may be working.

Oops…a call holding now from the White House on the other line. I have to give Obama a back channel offer from Abbas that he will agree to a no first nuclear strike policy with the U.S. if Susan Rice will vote for their UN admission today.


Australian PM under fire for stance on Palestine UN upgrade



…by Press TV


Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has come under heavy pressure from Jewish and pro-Israeli groups after announcing that Canberra would abstain from a vote for the upgrading of the status of Palestine at the UN.

Australia’s Jewish groups have demanded a meeting with the premier to express their anger over her decision and to urge her to vote against the bid which would upgrade Palestine’s status at the UN from “observer entity” to “observer state.”

The observer state status will grant Palestinians access to UN agencies and the International Criminal Court, where they could file formal complaints against the Israeli regime.

Reports say that the Israeli embassy in Canberra was also angry with Gillard’s decision.

On November 26, acting Palestinian Authority chief Mahmoud Abbas submitted a draft resolution to the UN General Assembly, requesting the upgrade. The UN assembly will vote on the bid on Thursday, November 29.

Palestinians need a majority vote from 193 members of the General Assembly to win the bid.

Currently, as many as 150 nations, which already recognize Palestine as a sovereign state, are in favor of the upgrade.

Gillard, a staunch ally of the Israeli regime, had decided to vote “no” on the Palestinian UN recognition, but was forced by her cabinet ministers to vote “yes” or abstain at the UN.

Seeking to blunt negative reaction to her abstention vote, the Australian premier reiterated her commitment to Israel in the parliament on Tuesday.

“We all want to wake up in a world where Israel can live behind secure borders,” she said.

Christopher Pyne, a senior opposition politician, said that Gillard’s abstention vote would be a serious blow to Australia’s ties with Israel.

“One shouldn’t underestimate how dramatic it is that Australia is now abstaining from a vote for the Palestinian territories and the Palestinian Authority to gain observer status at the United Nations,” Pyne said.

Many of the European Union states, including Austria, Denmark, France and Spain, are expected to support the Palestinian bid at the UN.


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42 Responses to "Jewish Lobby Bullying Exposed in Australia"

  1. Franklin Ryckaert  December 1, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Blackmailed after a visit to Israel? That must almost certainly have been sexual blackmail. Probably paedophilic sex in his hotelroom, secretly filmed and then threatened with publication if he wouldn’t cooperate. That’s the way this Mafia operates.

  2. blakehamilton  November 30, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    That 700000 now numbers around 7 million.

  3. Jim W. Dean  November 30, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Amen here, We were in a frenzy the last 24 hours as the landslide formed and were getting reports of all these abstentions, which seemed impossible. We thought the Mossa was playing a trick on us to run a story and then make us look like idiots. Yes, we get fed bogus stories to set us up…every week.

    What was devastating to the non loyal Jewish Lobbies was that with all their obvious hooks in so deep, they still were not able to make their host countries walk the plank for the Likuds. The danger of course, the mega danger, is that once they have wandered off the plantation and tasted freedom, they will not want to go back and do ‘bad things’ (bending over) for the Israeli lobby.

    It will take some digging to see what the mechanism/dynaimes were for each country, and if there can be any lasting value in it or will it be like a fouth of July where everybody is a super patriot and then the day after they go back to money grubbing their fellow citizens.

  4. Jim W. Dean  November 30, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Good Gosh, What have we been missing here with no Aussies in the comment section. How much is it going to cost us to keep you guy around? We were all planning to rely on you as a last redoubt when things got too bad here, so we have to keep your piece of turf safe or we will have nowhere to go.

    In Canada, Mossad trainees will just use us for target practice !!!

  5. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Again, you’re shining your own shoes. No one is impressed by you here and there is no chance you are going to convince anyone here that the bankers and Israelis aren’t the same faction — Talmudia Zionism.

  6. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Ashkenazi Hasids — now you’re going to tell us Jews aren’t obsessed with finance.

  7. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Sorry, I think you’re flaring your own fanfare here. Stop polishing your own shoes. You have a bigger Messiah complex than Netanyahu.

    You bring no new revelations here.

    We know who the perps are, and they are the same as the bankers — Talmudia Zionists.

    And for the final time, we are not going to end this when Israel is done. We are going to drown these snakes in their holes.

  8. Jim W. Dean  November 30, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Thanks, I will go fix 🙂

  9. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Yes, they’ve been for a long time. By people we can identify, and who are the SAME as the bankers.

  10. Jim W. Dean  November 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Wonderful idea. I love it when the comment boards really work like this. Send me the address where to get them privately 🙂

  11. Jim W. Dean  November 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Oh yeah, Like a Palestinian leader could accept something like that and have a drop of credibility left. With all the money these PA guys are looting they do want to act like they are worth it.

    Our problem is the U.S. has joined itself to them with these ten year advance budget, secret agreements, no prosecution for spying, etc. Whatever they claim Israel can give us in return for any national security benefit, just ignores the damage they are doing by keeping it classified.

    Public support for Israeli would evaporate in a week if we could make public what they have really done. But the politcial structure would go with them as it would then be know that they let it happen, so by protecting Israel they are protecting their butts and their post gov futures.

  12. shachalnur  November 30, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Britain,Australia,Germany and the US are under orders ,that’s all.

  13. shachalnur  November 30, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Looks like you’re a bit obsessed with me,got nothing else to do?
    Your “proof”?
    2 sentences out of context,even some other posters pointed you at the fact that you’re not reading/understanding correctly.
    “Rockefeller” ;
    -“Rock”,origin; “Rokke” (Middle English),stone mass.
    -“Feller” to fell,origin; “fellen”(Middle English)1. to cut(down),strike(down),knock(down),2. to kill.
    Rockefeller= “he who fells(cuts down) rocks”.
    Rothschild ,Red shield,”magen adom”,”magen edom”(red shield or shield(protector) of Edom.(in hebrew)
    My proof is that I’ve been predicting stuff,that’s actually happening now.(things that seem to be a great surprise of many posters here.)
    “No one as blind as one that doesn’t want to see.
    No one as deaf as one that doesn’t want to hear.”
    You’re being played like a fool.
    The only explanation for what’s happening now,for thought controlled people like you,is to believe that Obama is for real,and the world is finally going for the “real” culprits.
    That he’s not a golf playing,teleprompter reading stooge following orders,and it’s not the same banks that have the governments enslaved.
    They played the same trick on Europeans in the 30’s ,and with “,kill first,ask questions later,armchair revolutionaries ” like you,their plans are advancing very nicely,thank you.

  14. shachalnur  November 30, 2012 at 9:42 am

    The name is Bauer.
    they changed it to Rothschild ,which means “magen edom”(shield of Edom) in Hebrew.

  15. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Yawn. You get old really soon. Obama was your worst enemy before the election because he wouldn’t start a World War for Israel. Now that it’s after the election, you lost and are trying to discredit him.

    Good luck. You’re yesterday’s news. Looks like Ahmadinejad was 1000000% right. Foolish us to doubt him.

  16. James Robertson  November 30, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Yes the reaction of both the BBC and ABC have been astonishing. BBC seem to have exited to a parallel universe where none of this “awfulness” ever happened. The BBC and like minded media are straight up openly sulking!
    Anyone doubting the significance of this vote, note the reaction of all the cheerleaders and think again. The other thought that occurs is that our media are even worse than the politicians, completely captured and able to still wield tremendous perception shaping power, which they use to promote evil. Unconditionally.

  17. The Rahnameh  November 30, 2012 at 9:28 am

    These idiots have also been claiming Iran was long a Jewish civilization, with Tehran being a Jewish city. They claim the oil is theirs by birthright now.

    Talmudia must be snuffed.

  18. shachalnur  November 30, 2012 at 8:48 am

    For things going on in Holland,why Timmermans has given in to Zionist pressure etc.
    Go to www
    You need to know Dutch though.
    More important is that, for whatever reason, countries like Germany,Australia,GB,and several Balkan countries abstained.
    Most might think this is “natural”,product of 60 years of oppression and the world is “waking up”,refusing to defend the indefenseble.
    The order has been given to drop Israel,and there’s preciously little Israel can do about it.
    I predicted this several month ago here on VT.
    Panetta today;”ties between Israel and US at historical high”
    Brzezinski,Ashrawi and most other mayor players are all repeating the same mantra;
    “US should stop following Israel like a stupid mule”.
    Israel and the US are all eating out of the same hand.
    The endgame has started,israel will be dropped,the US,GB and Europe will “liberate ” themselves from slavery by Israel,BUT that will come at a price.
    The war ,and economic collapse, that will ensue will leave these countries no other choice than to limit the freedoms of their population(enslaving them).
    This is the same trick the Rothschild’s played on the world before ,during and after WW2.
    While the world was happy going after the supposed culprits,the Elite created the UN,the European Union and the Cold War by stealth,using the frustration,and later guilt feelings,of the population.
    All the mechanisms are in place,they just need a trigger and a guilty party,and the enslavement will be implemented.
    Israel,Zionism and a big number of Jews underwriting this racist theory , are guilty of being a paranoid,manipulative,chosenite bunch of murdering racists that should be “wiped from the sands of time”.
    But by thinking that Israel should be taken out BEFORE their creators and Puppetmasters are identified and cornered, will lead to a bunch of suicidal fanatics blowing up half the planet,and the Elite enslaving the US,Europe and the rest of the world.
    Israel won’t last for a month if you cut the banking elite down first.
    The other way around is just falling into the trap the Elite has set up.

  19. Cold Wind  November 30, 2012 at 7:49 am

    Wonderful news about Palestine–now for the right of return for the 700,000 diaspora Palestinians. As for Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, well, I never would have thought it possible. Yet here we are, maybe on the verge of something very big, and its not even December 21!

  20. Brian  November 30, 2012 at 6:48 am

    PressTV provides this:

    Israel is planning to build 3,000 more settler units in the occupied West Bank after Palestine’s status was upgraded at the United Nations.

    Brian: I live in California, I hope Jewish extremists in Israel don’t claim California belongs to Jewish people I don’t want to move to Alaska, it’s a bit cold.

  21. blakehamilton  November 30, 2012 at 4:22 am

    Voted for the resolution: Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Comoros, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Honduras, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kirghistan, Kiribati, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, North Korea, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Portugal, Qatar, Qatar, Russia, Russia, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Spain, Sri Lanka, St. Kitts and Nevis St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Sweden, Switzerland, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Costa Rica, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, UAE, Uganda, Ukraine, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

    Voted against the resolution: Canada, Czech Republic, Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Panama, and the United States.

    Abstained: Albania, Andorra, Australia, Bahamas, Barbados, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Colombia, Croatia, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Estonia, Fiji, Germany, Guatemala, Haiti, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malawi, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Netherlands, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Poland, Korea, Moldova, Romania, Rwanda, Samoa, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Togo, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Vanuatu.

  22. blakehamilton  November 30, 2012 at 3:54 am

    Surprised South Sudan voted yes. The zios pushed for that country and was clearly hoping it will be an ally.

  23. blakehamilton  November 30, 2012 at 3:48 am

    Ones who voted against: – Count em on one hand: Czech Republic, the United States, Israel, Canada, Panama & the tiny Pacific Island states Nauru, Palau, Marshall Islands and Micronesia.

    The tiny pacific islands completely bankrolled by USA the rest have Zio Occupied Govts no doubt

  24. blakehamilton  November 30, 2012 at 3:44 am

    Thanks for that list DaveE was trying to find it via a search but could not.

  25. stephanaugust  November 30, 2012 at 1:20 am

    One example about blackmail: The late German politician Jürgen Möllemann (who, um, “committed suicide” by parachuting) wrote in his book “Klartext” in a chapter called “Die Erpressung” that German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle told him after his visit to Israel in May 2003 that he is blackmailed.

    Guess what? There was no outcry on MSM-street that there has to be an investigation about this (or that, if true, Guido Westerwelle can not be Foreign Minister).

  26. Ann  November 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Rio Tinto…now why does that ring a bell…let me see…hmmm…oh yes, now I remember, that treacherous little screwball Herbert Hoover was an employee, and who was the owner again, oh yes, of course, who else, the parasitic Rothschilds. It all makes sense. After all these years the undercurrents are still the same.

  27. John Robertson  November 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Kevin Rudd got offside with the lobby as well when he was advocating a more even handed approach in Palestine. The story is Jules and Tim are up for having a forest named after them ala Hawke Howard etc

  28. Franklin Ryckaert  November 29, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Untill recently the Netherlands had has minister of Foreign Affairs the Jew Uri Rosenthal, married to an Israeli woman and with two sisters living in Israel. This bumbling idiot, who was highly impopular in his own ministry, did everything to serve his real fatherland Israel. His replacement Timmermans, of the Labour party, first expressed his support for the Palestinians, but apparently has given in to Zionist pressure. There is such a thing as a Jewish Lobby in the Netherlands, but it works mostly invisibly. Support for Israel in the Netherlands can be ascribed to this lobby and the general Calvinist background of its culture, though the latter is eroding.

  29. James Robertson  November 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Thank you JIm, for shining a light in some deeply unpleasant dark corners. Warlord Mark, couldn’t agree with you more mate, still go into paroxysms of rage whenever I remember seeing Pyne on Q and A baldly state that all criticism of Israel was simply evidence of anti Jewish prejudice, All I can say is Thank you Canada (and the USA) for lessening our humiliation somewhat.

  30. DaveE  November 29, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Also, what’s up with all the Balkan states….Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia?

  31. DaveE  November 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    I think the list of countries that abstained is quite interesting: Those countries are:

    Albania, Andorra, Australia, Bahamas, Barbados, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Camaroon, Columbia, Croatia, Congo, Estonia, Fiji, Germany, Guatemala, Haiti, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malawi, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Netherlands, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Poland, Korea, Moldova, Romania, Rwanda, Samoa, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Togo, Tonga, UK, Vanuatu

    Notable especially is the Netherlands, who still seem to be terrified of the Jewish Mafia after their little “ordeal”, also Korea and Poland, seemingly under Jewish control as well. Estonia and Latvia also seemingly have never really gained their independence from the Jewish Bolsheviks…….


  32. Risodang  November 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    BBC News hour at 18:00 was replaced tonight. That never happens! This was a bad day for the country of London. Bouer clan going ape-shit for next 3 days I guess.

  33. DaveE  November 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Yes indeed. The cowards that abstained or voted for Satan’s Kids are fully exposed.

  34. shachalnur  November 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Britain abstained.
    Inelligence;Israel has just as much on politicians worldwide,as they have on Israel.
    Who exposed the bullying of the Lobby in Australia?
    This is gonna go a lot faster,Israel is gonna be cornered very soon.
    I suppose people will think that’s all “natural” ,the course of history,Obama had a change of heart and is becoming someone standing up for the US.
    There are no coincidences on this level,this is planned.

  35. Brian  November 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    PressTV provides this:

    The United Nations General Assembly has voted 138-9 to upgrade Palestine’s status from “observer entity” to “observer non-member state.”

    Brian: Once again the Israeli blackmailed Obama humiliates himself and the people of the United States throughout the world by voting no on the proposal.

    Perhaps Obama is going to put all the Palestinian leaders on his Muslim hit list during his terror Tuesday meeting. On behalf of the Israeli government the United States will cruelly punish the poor Palestinians financially. After the deranged Operation Cast Lead completed the Israelis wouldn’t allow donated macaroni in Gaza, they said it was a luxury item. They also initially wouldn’t allow donated soap and toilet paper to be delivered to Gaza. More evil for the Palestinians, something wicked this way comes, Netanyahu and his puppet Obama.

    I wonder what crap the Israeli Lobby gave Obama the TelePrompter president to say about the UN upgrade for the Palestinians.

  36. Martin Maloney  November 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm


    Title should perhaps be “…Bullying…”

    Unless, “Bulling” was shorthand for “Bullshitting!”

  37. peter  November 29, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Great article Jim. I need an order of exploding cigars to be sent to Canada. Our cbc is laughable. If you have any insight on the main lobby players here up north, i would love to hear it. Cheers.

  38. DaveE  November 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    I do think it’s quite a spectacle, watching Britain and Australia being so humiliated. Particularly Britain, who tried to “cut a deal” by agreeing to recognize Palestine if only the Pals would give up any chance of justice against 100 years of zionist depredations.

    The Jews exposed their hand, justice is what REALLY scares them. Viva Palestina…..!

  39. DaveE  November 29, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    This seems to me to be more comlicated than it looks. Since Hamas is the legitimately elected government of Palestine, yet the West (and UN) only recognize Fatah, led by Abbas, is this just another play by the zionists to split the Palesinians or isolate Hamas? Would Pals now have to choose between a corrupt slimeball recognized by the UN or their legitimate government, Hamas?

    One thing for certain: the zionists are dirty creatures who have never played fairly or honestly. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is an attempt to break up another legitimate government that might get in Israel’s way. That seem to be their strategy in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. etc.

    Things could get interesting.

  40. Jim W. Dean  November 29, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    This whole effort was all worth learning, for the world, that the Israelis main concern was getting immunity in any peace agreement for what they have done. This is not unusual.

    But with the Pals not in the UN the Zios can drag ‘negotiations’ out for the next ten to twenty years, all the time building settlements, and if the Pals don’t like it, or America for that matter, what could they do?

    But now if Abbas can get the PA into the ICC…while the Zios were playing endless games with the negotiations, the criminal cases would be moving along. So in a peace deal that would only cover ‘new prosecutions’ not those already in process.

    If the ICC put out a request of evidence of Israeli crimes against humanity do you have any idea of some of the stuff that could come in?…the kind of stuff that foreign intel agencies could leak out? It could be incredible.

    So this ICC thing is a game changer as the Israelis catbird seat turns into a hotseat.

  41. Brian  November 29, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Even if the Palestinians get an upgraded status at the UN I have to wonder if the Israeli blackmailed Palestinian leaders will have the courage to take the Israeli government to court for crimes against humanity. Besides secretly receiving a ton of money some Palestinian leaders over the years spent time with seductive Israeli Swallows and perhaps Ravens. I wonder how many sex video tapes the Mossad has of Palestinian leaders. The Israelis operate with the motto if we can’t blackmail you we can’t trust you.

  42. blakehamilton  November 29, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Mr Dean, may thanks and hope you do an article on the result – ie who voted for and against. It will be very interesting to see who is still kowtowing to the zionist beat.

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