PressTV – Defiers beat the Deniers – 138 to 9 at UN


 U.S. Gets Lost in Time – With the Hockey Puck and Coconut Brigade


…by Jim W. Dean, VT Editor               …and  Press TV

Originally published on 11-30-12 on Press TV


“One step over the line…”

The United States continued its downward slide in world leadership today by supporting the remnants of the anti-Palestinian rights gang, voting ‘no’ on the Palestinian UN vote along with Israel, Canada, the Czech Republic, Palau, Panama, Naura, and Micronesia.

This new Civil Unrights group is to be known as the Hockey Puck and Coconut Brigade.

If some of you are lost as to where these places are, don’t feel bad. Being lost in the march of history is much worse. Decades of a failed U.S. Mid East policy seem to just keep reinventing itself like the head of a hydra. The old wisdom of learning from your past mistakes seems have been lost.

My government embarrassed me deeply today. It betrayed the best of America and a time when we need to be proud. Instead we ran with the bullies today against the whole school yard.

Gordon Duff just called me, looking to see if I had the country lists for the vote counts. It seems despite all the international media in the galleries ticking off each of the country votes as they came in that they all went into the burn bags when they left. It’s 9pm EST here in Atlanta and someone is holding up releasing the full list, another disgrace for corporate media.

The abstention vote list grew in the last few days as the Palestinian vote prospects turned into a landslide. Israeli diplomats were no longer tasked with trying to win, but preventing what could only be seen as the tipping point where the world no longer wants to be held hostage to the pretend-a-Jews living in Israel.

Israeli UN ambassador Prosor made the expected historical claim:

“For as long as President Abbas prefers symbolism over reality, any hope of peace will be out of reach. No decision by the UN can break the 4,000 year-old bond between the people of Israel and the land of Israel,” Prosor said. This is the man representing the atheist and communist Zionists who came to conquer Palestine because God gave them the land.

When will we have sanctions and a No Fly zone?

Prosor is of course, like all the other militant Israelis and Likudists, a Palestinian Denier.

This holocausting of the Palestinian people by word of mouth started with Golda Meir, former terrorist org member, when she stated that there were no Palestinian people and that the land had been empty when the Zionists came.

I guess if God is going to give you the land he can wipe everybody out before you get there so you don’t have bad dreams about the nasty part. The empty land part was of course untrue, but did not seem to bother the Zios a bit.

The world public is treated with as much contempt now as then.

At Veterans Today we began to smell the Israeli panic two day ago. The respective major country Jewish Lobbies tasked with delivering their respective no votes found the citizen polling not going so well.

At this delicate time of financial distress and family adjustments being made in so many countries, their leaders began to worry about it not looking so good to be getting down on their knees as requested for another Israeli bully vote

Losing Germany was a big blow. Foreign minister Guido Westerwelle broke the bad news:

“We did not take this decision lightly. Germany shares the goal of a Palestinian state,” he said. “But the decisive steps towards real statehood can only be the result of negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians.”

Unmentioned was that the German polls were showing about 65% support for the Palestinian tiny UN recognition being given here. Across Europe the poll numbers were similar. Today almost all of the EU voted yes or abstained. “We have lost Europe’, said one Israeli official.

The Israelis would like to negotiate with a totally defenseless opponent that they have staring down a barrel of a gun. To that you can add the almost blank check support of the U.S. and a PR department that sells that they live in fear of all their ghetto prisoners driving them into the sea.

I would ask the Israeli official, “What did you expect, after all the years of bullying, blackmail, assassinations, political corruption, offensive espionage, and extortion…that you had some huge reservoir of good will to draw upon out in the world?”

International Criminal Court – The Hague

But it gets even worse. The negative Jewish bullying stereotype was put front and center on display. The big fear in the vote today was of the Palestinians being able to take War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity charges to the ICC.

Israel had orders going out to all the Jewish Lobbies to use maximum pressure to force their host countries to vote no with their usual threat and intimidation campaigns, which are legendary.

Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard is about a solid an ally of the Jewish Lobby as you can find, and as reported earlier in Press TV today she was planning to against the Palestinians.

Although we don’t have the inside details, her cabinet pushed back hard enough to change her vote to abstention. And yes, an opposition leader stated that this might incur ‘Israeli retribution’. What would they do, cut of sheep exports to Australia, or take their wonderful accents away?

The Jewish Lobby of course was caught completely off guard with the vote change and demanded a meeting with Gillard to press their disappointment. They hoped to stage a highly public display that when dealing with issues regarding Israel, their fellow citizens were relegated to the back of the bus.

Australian PM – Julia Gillard

The Israeli embassy, trying to deliver a one two punch on the Aussie leadership also voiced their displeasure. They dropped all pretense of the Lobby not being an agent of Israel.

But the old bully routine did not work this time. The Jewish Lobby doubled down their bet and lost. Why? I think people just got sick and tired of it and weren’t going to take it any more.

Netanyahu threw a fit after the vote, declaring that Abbas had lied, like Netanyahu does not, and we don’t all know it? He declared that nothing has changed on the ground. The Zionist boot is still on the necks of the Palestinians.

But he was upset for another reason really. The world just watched another attack on Gaza with disproportionate force. The real victims living in the open air prison got more international support than last time. The three American AGEIS destroyers who compose 50% of the Iron Dome never arrived during the eight days for fighting as rockets rained down on Israel like never before.

But still, even before the vote, Netanyayu was doubling down on his already lost bet attacking the international community:

“It doesn’t matter how many hands will be raised against it, there is no force in the world that would cause me to compromise Israel’s security.”

I see no sunny days ahead. The bullies still have their victims by the throat. Uri Avnery tells us today that the Likud party recently purged all of their moderate members. I did not know they had any.

They go into the election as a totally extreme right wing party. Negotiations with them will go nowhere. Another solution is needed or there will be no progress. And we have a model for it.

Israel has had the largest WMD stockpiles in the Mid East for decades

It’s called regime change. The Likuds are incapable of change as they hold everybody else, internal and external, in contempt. They must be done away with. Oh yes, that is exactly what I said.

And we also have a model for that. It’s called sanctions, which the U.S. and NATO feel is such a potent weapon let us apply it where it will do the most good.

Let it be used on the renegade state with the largest WMD stockpiles in the Mid East. Let it be used on the country who has never been a partner to the community of nations, the one who has ignored all UN resolutions and international law.

And finally, let it be used on the country who is long over due for having to pay for the Crimes Against Humanity in which they have engaged.

What the people of the world are beginning to see with the Palestinians, is ‘there but for them go me.’

The militant Israelis would be doing the same to us if we lived there, simply because they wanted to.

And who would we turn to?….the United States?, Britain?, and God forbid Canada or Micronesia and the Coconut Lobby to save us? We would want some help.

Regime change and sanctions, folks. Nothing else will work. With the Likuds in power, there is no way, but the hard way. It’s a choice they did not even give the Palestinians in 1948. But we will let the courts decide all of that. Our job is to deliver them to the front door, and let their prisoners free.

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35 Responses to "PressTV – Defiers beat the Deniers – 138 to 9 at UN"

  1. johnsholtes  December 8, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Like the American people the German people want nothing to do with these stupid zionist wars. Germany is occupied as well as America is occupied by an Allien Communist World regime. You all are aware of this and know you no longer belong to an American Military but are now part of the Armed Forces ofthe UN. The Bolshevik Communists won WWII not America. We lost and now everyone should be able to see that. As I have posted so many times on this website it is tme right now for all loyal members of all the branches of the Military, All loyal members of all intelligence agencies, police and fire departments etc to take a stand. If you really love this country do this this is no crazy rant. Our very existance depends on you. And that goes for all those of you employed by Military intelliigence hired to monitor this site and other sites on the internet. You know who I am and because my online Constitutional non secret ballot ended up a joke and my exposing the rape and murder of the goddess Astara Evenstar who happened to be a 15 year old Army ROTC cadet ended up in my imprisonment and attempts on my life I do not fear anyone or anything and really look foreward to more confrontations the last three men know that. I am a Berserker.


  2. The Rahnameh  December 7, 2012 at 8:11 am

    You wrote: “yet they whine which is one of their money changing money lending money laundering christ crucifying characteristic..
    whine whine whine and ask for more..
    what is mine is mine, what is yours…is [mine]”

    Correct. What a double edged sword to wield. 😉

  3. blakehamilton  December 7, 2012 at 3:51 am

    Stephen censuses were done.

    Population in 1878 was 462,465 (excluding the Nomadic Bedouins who were not part of the census). Of that 96.8% were Muslim & Christian Palestinians. Jews made up 3.2%. 1882-1914 immigration of 65000 EUROPEAN Jews. 1922 the population of Palestine was 757,182. Of that Muslim & Christian Palestinians were 87.6% & Jews 11%. In the 1920’s as land was being stripped from the inhabitants to give to the Jews the first clashes between the Palestinians and Jews began.
    1920-1931: 108,825 Jewish immigrants arrived. Until the early 1930’s the Jewish population of Palestine remained under 17%. In 1931 there were 1,035,154 people of which 81.6% were Muslims or Christians & 16.9% Jews. Between 1932-36 174,000 Jews immigrated to Palestine doubling their population in just 5 years. 1937-45 and additional 119,800 more jews arrived in Palestine. Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust but they were the ones who paid the price.

    Sources: British Govt Palestine Royal Commission report and British mandatory census

  4. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Thanks, Franklin.

    Here’s one possibility. Look up the word: Shalach.

    He’s making fun of them.

  5. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Anyone who demands that Palestine be absorbed into Jordan is following a Zionist agenda. If they wish to stop following the Talmudic plan, they should try not following it instead of just running their keyboard diarrhea in futile attempts to insult me or lay blame on me for their own inadequacies.

  6. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    What chaos? That I told you that you are paying into the Zionist agenda by stating that Palestine should be absorbed into Jordan?

    That you have an Israeli name?

    Okay, if you want to make me the bad guy — have your words. You are still a hasbarist until you stop actually being one. 😉

  7. wiggins  December 6, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    They were part of the never ending reparations.

  8. shachalnur  December 5, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    First of all, are you talking about David Weiss Halivni or Dovid Weiss.
    Rabbi David Weiss Halivni is winner of the Israel prize for Talmud,and he’s bad news.
    He has nothing to do with Neturei Karta.
    Dovid Weiss is an influential rabbi inside Netorei Karta.
    Neturei Karta flew to Teheran to meet Ahmedinnejad and said some very interesting things there.
    Ahmedinejad and Neturei Karta also met in New York around a UN General Assembly.
    So take your pick,and I can try to answer you.
    The piece Philip Shahak is talking about is an explanation on how Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism and about the collaboration(facts,documents) of the Zionists with the Nazi’s.
    Rabbi Gedalya Lieberman is an Australian.
    True Torah jews against Zionism is Neturei Karta as far as I know.
    Besides that ,I think that to which group a person belongs doesn’t disqualify this person to have an opinion ,especially if it contains arguments and proof.
    Also pieces written by Rabbi Dov Weismandl and Grand Rebbe Joel Taitelbaum can be read on this site.

    Why don’t you answer the piece I addressed to you on this page?

  9. Jim W. Dean  December 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Is Liebermann with Neturie Karta? I have two hours of studio interview footage with Rabbi David Weiss, done when they were still in black out mode in the U.S….some of the most riveting interview footage. The shoot crew was like in a trance the whole time. They just couldn’t believe what they were hearing.

  10. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Then invite him to your next Shabbat dinner instead of just saying it to find agreement and support here for entrenchment purposes.

    ouch 😉

  11. shachalnur  December 5, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I second that,actually mentioned this Rabbi many times before on this site.
    He’s part of “true Torah jews against Zionism”

  12. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    It bothers Tomer that I called Golda Meyer (Bauer Rothschilds) a stupid cave dwelling ape.

    He said Palestine should be absorbed into Jordan.

    He claims 40 years of service. So does Joe Lieberman.

  13. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Calling a spade a spade is no crime 🙂 Shifting your story to suit the new Talmudic/Zionist agenda in the face of changing facts on the ground (Palestine is a State/Obama is re-elected)? Unforgivable.

    You continue to insist the puppeteers are not Zionist Jews. You continue to insist, by implication, that saving Israel is the key to all of this!

    Deflection = Disinformation. You are here in a swarm to attack VT. After all, PressTV now features these authors.

    Predictable, as always. 😉 I’m not the only one that has called you out. More spinning from the Shillings.

  14. DaveE  December 5, 2012 at 11:05 am

    A woman is defined as a female human. I don’t think Meir meets either qualification. The cave part is probably accurate, though.

  15. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Germany won’t break out so long as Stasi queen Merkel signs off on free U-214 nuclear capable Submarines to “Isfake” and violates the NPT blindly in hopes of “peace”.

    She is your controlled opposition. Of course you are creating a subtext and hoping that we will take the bait.

    “Returning to the peace process” is a euphemism for: “Let’s continue the ethnic cleansing plan under the same charade where Israel operates with immunity and the victims, Palestinian, have no recourse, while presenting to our constituencies lies about that reality, and painting the victim as the aggressor.”

    Cheers Rotem 😉

  16. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 9:41 am

    What’s wrong with wanting the Talmudists (Political face = Zionism) accountable for their crimes? Of course you take exception. 😉

  17. Curmudgeon  December 5, 2012 at 7:38 am

    What is missing in your observation is that the opposition parties in Canada took no opportunity to criticize the Canadain government in this massive foreign policy shift. They too are owned by the tribe. I suspect that is the same in Australia and the UK.
    Germany is still occupied. Years ago the German version of the Supreme Court stated that WWII ended with a military surrender, not a surrender of the German state. Germany, as the host for the parasitic state of Israel, continues to pay “survivors”, now into the 3rd generation, who weren’t even born at the time of the Big Lie.

  18. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Selling U-214s over U-212s is a violation of the NPT by Germany.

    Your questions can be easily answered by your supposed ability to find out “what size of shoes” I wear.

    *LOL* BY the way, stop posting to this site Tel Aviv time ya dummy 😉

  19. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 7:23 am

    That’s not what Samuel Clemens said in entirety and he wasn’t knowledgeable. Who’s to say his publishing pals didn’t spread propaganda through him?

    Wouldn’t be atypical of modus operandi

  20. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 7:21 am

    Golda Meir was a cave woman.

  21. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 7:18 am

    “You sent a request on me” and “it will show up in a few places” — oh well, go ahead.

    LOL — internet threat from Hasbara.

  22. PhilipShahak  December 5, 2012 at 6:41 am

    Some of the best exposes of the Zionist betrayal of Europe’s Jews have come from Australia based decent Jews.
    here is a short article by Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann

  23. adeUK  December 5, 2012 at 2:40 am

    I do believe the Dolphin subs were more of a gift from the German taxpayers than a sale, I wonder if ReichFührerine Merkel will apologise and compensate the victims if they are ever used in anger.

  24. The Rahnameh  December 5, 2012 at 1:05 am

    Ya, only the River Jordan on one side and the Mediterranean on the next. The gush of water coming through Syria. I’ll stop there.

    Let’s say it was a dry and barren land. It was still inhabited by a majority of indigenous Palestinians for millennium.

  25. stephanaugust  December 5, 2012 at 12:16 am

    I should have searched for “out of context” because I found this,

    “The narrow canyon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side.” (The Innocents Abroad, p. 322)

    which makes it UNLIKELY that a high cultivated and fertile land is desolated.

  26. stephanaugust  December 5, 2012 at 12:08 am

    I meant “Maybe it was not Golda Meir who stated FIRST that Palestine was empty”.

  27. stephanaugust  December 5, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Maybe it was not Golda Meir who stated that Palestine was empty. There is this by Mark Twain (but I am unsure now how much, if, it is out of context, maybe it was satire, maybe a Mark Twain expert can solve this):

    Mark Twain, who visited Palestine in 1867, described it as:

    “ …[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse….A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action….We never saw a human being on the whole route….There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

    Source: Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad. London: 1881 (New American Library, 1997).

    Quoted endlessly by pages like this:


  28. Mike Kay  December 4, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Mr. Dean,
    I concur, that this vote is of huge significance, and the waves it has created are not done yet. However, I do wonder if we would truly need sanctions at all, if Germany would sever the financial cord that has built so much of the infrastructure in Palestine on behalf of its immigrant masters, if the 5 billion worth of military gifts from US to them would simply cease. If the endless financial shenanigans of the banksters would be reined in, and this includes their constant stream of money funneling to the zios.
    Finally, why not demand a DNA test from every immigrant master who claims a historic right that trumps the real semites who live there? It would be interesting, I think, to discover once and for all that they originated in the steppes of central Asia.

  29. The Rahnameh  December 4, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    “Merkel meets with Bibi tomorrow and has already leaked she will tell them that Israeli is facing total isolation if there are no changes.”

    You mean the criminal who sold illegal (Germany is an NPT signatory) nuclear-Dolphin Submarines to Israel is going to tell them they need to return to the “PEACE PROCESS”?

    Here is the peace process: the Zionist occupied foreign policy of the United States arms Israel to the tune of $3-4 Billion Taxpayer dollars per year (more like a HUGE net value if you were to appraise the real worth of the relationship…try “they sucked us dry”), we give them an unconditional veto, they continue the “Jabotinsky plan” (everyone please Google this and tell others to do the same) and designate “ethnic cleansing” of Palestine their ONLY “ethic” (meaning, they will stop at nothing to ethnically cleanse Palestine), and Palestine is wiped from the map in a true translation of Benjamin Netanyahu’s intent. Palestine has no recourse because politically they are locked down by the weight of the US’ superpower. Israel continues to settle, settle, and settle. They are buying time.

    It’s just a euphemism at this point. Just like “anti-Semite” in an inverse of a euphemism. It means a good thing now. We’ve established the Palestinians are Semitic and the Israelis are colonizers pretending to be Semitic through several scholars, Gilad Atzmon and Shlomo Sand included. A two year old can point that out.


  30. The Rahnameh  December 4, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    I am going to spread your Hockey and Coconut Brigade term like a Mt. Carmel fire, Jim Dean. These Zionists don’t know how to stop a good fire — we all saw that.

    Uri Avnery has been living in the insane asylum that is Israeli and its political atmosphere for decades while being a moral voice. That is why he thinks the “moderate” members of Likud have been cancelled from the party, and they are so extreme still that to us they just look like controlled opposition (the “good cop”). I mean, beyond ethnic cleansing, genocide, world subjugation, mass atrocity of life, how much lower can you go?

    Here is the great pendulum. Good is a force to be reckoned with on the back swing. Israel’s strategy is to throttle into havoc at this juncture in hopes of booming a greater regional conflict. What America and Iran need to utilize is an overwhelming mitigation strategy.


    I’m not playing.

  31. Jim W. Dean  December 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    “If you believe this is spontanious ,you’re in for a nasty surprise.”

    Merkel meets with Bibi tomorrow and has already leaked she will tell them that Israeli is facing total isolation if there are no changes. I am going to try to do a good sanction push piece for PressTV tomorrow. VT, as always, is trying to stay ahead of events.

    Something is definitely going on. All I can think of with the Europeans and the EU, still stumped on their budget work that the just the inflated oil prices due to the rigged war threats has been a tax on all of them, those that were not insiders to the rigging, anyway.

    Britain’s gas fields are in declining production and they are working on going the shale fracking route. The dummies should realize that no more wars would fund a lot of energy development to keep that critical item from becoming the new slavemaster.

  32. The Rahnameh  December 4, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    But, keep him around. He’s good batting practice.

    Also, these people are such numerology freaks. Do you think if we just typed back a string of numbers they would go off and jerk off to death? I bet that was the secret code the bankers used to rule the world like generalized and nebulous puppeteers instead of the FACES we can PUNCH who committed 9/11.

    And by face punch I mean painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, painful, deaths.

    And that Iraqi dude gets to throw a few more shoes at W. Bush.

  33. The Rahnameh  December 4, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Oh, by the way, accountability before the Hague for Israel means no one wants to be complicit when Israeli leaders get hanged.

    🙂 <3

  34. The Rahnameh  December 4, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Yes, it signals a weakening of Israeli lobby power as that was previously cemented through bribes, corruption and mostly, nuclear extortion, via the Samson option. Now that Israel has been proven not only a paper tiger with a Samson bluff, but also a complete political liability in the face of Iran’s NAM movement (a 130 nation bloc voting exactly along the lines of damning the Zionist menace) there is no choice but to drop support for the only nation in the world that actually resembles the Nazis.

    Good news is, we agree in all cases that the Zionists will die first.

    Sounds good 😀

  35. NavyBrat  December 4, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    “Hockey pucks and coconuts” …. there’s got to be a song in there somewhere …
    Canada – after beating the drum against apartheid in South Africa back in the 80’s, how can you have the gall to support it now?
    Oh wait ….. these are Israelis we’re talking about, right? The CJC would have the Ottawa government out on its ear before the next Passover if they’d voted otherwise.

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