Press TV: Secret Intel Move Replaces CIA – “Lie Machine”

US intel agencies killing innocents around the globe


By Gordon Duff and Press TV


“We have seen it with our veterans, the “crusader armies” sent out to strike down the terror armies responsible for 9/11.  When America sent out her warriors, her “chosen,” little were they aware they were as those who had gone before, those “chosen” to be used up, discarded and despised.”


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There has been a war inside the American intelligence community between two factions. On one side, a war between the “technogeeks,” those who spy from afar, who plot, who fabricate, who imagine, who create intelligence, not based on the reality of the world but on the needs of the powerful, the need to “certify lies” and those who would restore a human equation.

If it serves “money” and power for the “geek squad” to say Iran is making nuclear weapons or that a man in a cave defeated America’s air defenses, if it serves “money” to talk of weapons that don’t exist and terror groups that “never were,” the “geek squad” simply makes it up.

This is what the CIA has become, a largely privatized system of “brown nosers” and paid liars, manufacturing a reality that never existed, sending America’s vast military power spinning in circles, eventually toward ruin and defeat.

Once, long ago, intelligence involved people, talking, listening, learning, finding threats but also recognizing opportunities as well.

I saw it in Vietnam, we learned what the people felt, what they wanted, how they valued peace and freedom, we learned but nobody listened.

Instead, we bombed. Today we war with robot planes called “drones,” whose only purpose is to prove to a world in need of a human face that America has no human face.

Now, today, there is a challenge to the “geeks,” a move to send abroad an army of spies, seen as a threat to the world by many but those of us “in the community” know better.

The CIA’s “lie machine” will, inevitably be seduced, be overtaken, be defeated by an enemy they could never understand. That enemy is understanding, learning, seeing and touching the real world, not glaring from afar.

So often, I turn to H.G. Wells and his quote from War of the Worlds:

“No one would have believed…that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as mortal as his own; that as men… were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.”

And so it was with the “Masters of the Universe,” with their satellites and drones, sitting on their fat behinds in Washington or London or Tel Aviv, ordering death, “wholesale” death at “bargain basement prices,” a cluster bomb here, a Hellfire missile there, all from afar, all controlled from an air-conditioned cockpit or a hand on a joystick thousands of miles away.

What has not been planned for, what is not foreseen, as those who remember the “old ways” are long since put out to pasture, is the “touch of humanity.”

America’s 11,000 “newborn spies” will drink tea and hear the laughter of children.

The “intelligence community” has a word for such things since they can dehumanize anything. They call it “atmospherics.”

To human beings, it is called “life.”

Some of us who are still around know the “old ways.” We knew the Vietnamese people because we harvested rice beside them, knew their children, we saw their pain, their joy.

The greatest privileges of my life have been the nights spent around the fire with people who shared their meager meals, who offered friendship and hospitality and expected only the same in return.

Each such experience was like being reborn, relearning humanity in the midst of war, there are always wars, I watch more growing around us as we sit and read my simple words, some “low intensity conflicts,” others that can rage out of control and end the future for us all.

They are coming, America’s army of spies, dropping amongst the people of the world, programmed with suspicion and bellicosity, unaware that the world has plans for them they could never imagine.

Those that have watched so long wonder if some hand of fate has reached out. Those of us who watched America become delusional, become insular, ridden with bigotry, race hatred, envy and suspicion, a nation fed on lies, steeped in bizarre mythologies meant to foster a worldview that served the enslavement of all, we now feel a tingle of hope.

We have seen it with our veterans, the “crusader armies” sent out to strike down the terror armies responsible for 9/11.

When America sent out her warriors, her “chosen,” little were they aware they were as those who had gone before, those “chosen” to be used up, discarded and despised.

You see, soldiers become “veterans,” a group our Malthusian overlords look upon as “useless eaters,” a burden on the social fabric, perhaps even a threat, angry, trained to kill and, for those who learned to know truth from lies, a group increasingly looking so much closer to home for America’s real enemies.

As real warriors became increasingly aware they were little but fodder for profiteers, wars for drugs, wars for oil, war for entropy alone, it became necessary to scour the land for new “believers.”

They were there, the newly poor, the victims of the carefully engineered economic collapse, they would fight, but there were others to target.

Today, thousands of members of gangs, the criminal organizations that infect every region of America, that make up an ever growing criminal class, this is where recruiters are now seeking the soldiers to fight the wars of ignorance, the wars the “geeks” have orchestrated for their masters.

It eventually became that way in Vietnam so many years ago, when no one was left, and America emptied her prisons into the military. The results are as we see now, thousands of rapes, murders, military bases that are, in fact, more dangerous to those stationed on them than any combat zone.

Maybe this will change, not all at once but the magic word to the real intelligence officer is “humint,” which means “human intelligence.”

Humint means learning real facts from real people, people who eat and worship and work, people with families and lives, not the cartoon cutouts the propagandized media has fed to America for decade upon decade.

You see, spies are the eyes and ears of every nation. They can’t make those who govern human, they can’t make them moral but they can end the flow of lies used to justify a decade of kidnapping and torture, a decade of robotic wholesale slaughter of an “enemy” dehumanized by the “geeks” that invented “Al Qaeda,” who demonize Iran, who call every man and woman of courage and moral certainty a “terrorist.”

Your “spy” is coming. Make him a cup of tea and break bread together.

Seduce America with humanity and goodness; you cannot imagine how much soullessness has to be overcome.

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45 Responses to "Press TV: Secret Intel Move Replaces CIA – “Lie Machine”"

  1. xx  December 10, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Now that’s an interesting comment, amazing how someone can provide information in messy ways. At least now, I know your observation is the ripples from the outer edge of pond. I have worked with aircraft companies, several or more, translating new technology for them (in short time).

    Do you know who manages and filters information prior too, the ripples on the outer edge of pond? By the above statement, it’s clear you do not…

  2. xx  December 8, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Advanced Technology, no post will be made.

  3. lola  December 7, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    No, I am just trying to clear up a fact. They either have them or they do not. I was always under the impression that they did not have them. Then Duff said they did. It is one or the other. I tend to trust Duff’s word and was clarifying. That is not nuance. You either have it or do not. No room for “nuance” and I am not holding Mr.Duff “over a grill”.You cannot have a “gray” nuke, a “maybe” nuke. Come on.Games are different. They are played out and nuances go on and on. Yes. But a simple question like mine is straight forward. Israel claims they do and I was under the impression that it was not true. Now Duff says they have 5 (five) that is not “in the making”, and then they are referred to as a “myth”. So I ask and still no answer. I find that disappointing.

  4. xx  December 7, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    I guess enough said then..

  5. xx  December 7, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Geoengineering is an interesting subject matter as well.

  6. xx  December 7, 2012 at 12:05 pm


    I want to write an article this weekend, called “Disclosure Part 1”. Would you publish this information, regarding some principles you may have come across? You know this will make some folks very angry; however, I specialize in “making folks angry” and believe you know this by now. Are you good at anger management with these folks?

  7. xx  December 7, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Your correct, trust who?

    Their going in every direction, and often one wonders who is working for whom? The entire system is fragmented, in every direction, “One moment their asking for assistance and attempting to stop global crime, then moments later you’re their new target.” When this occurs you discover who’s really working for whom, the USG or some private enterprise? Not all, but many are out there awaiting their opportunity. How many people are necessary to expose the corruption, and those ignoring crimes for “titles and land”, or promotions and such. The courageous are destroyed, and corrupt overwhelmed with wealth, again, and again. And this does nothing but teach the above game for prosperity.

    Technology must take new directions, “They won’t have the advanced technology soon”, because today it’s becoming more privatized as you know. We need to invest in alternative methods and create new technologies for the good of all. Why so difficult? Thereafter, promote these new ideas and ignore the old ways and those abusing these rights. If new direction is not established soon, your world will become one of electronic warriors battling for data, or obsessive exploitation for profit.

    Maybe the use of your skills can establish new direction or platform where people can share ideas. Create a platform to discuss new ideas and ways and means of pursuing the future. It’s not about ownership, but about sharing ideas for the good of all. Now this would make a few, more then angry.

    It’s my belief your battle will be in 2016, when one family wishes to take control again. If this occurs, all will be lost.

    Gordon, “disclosure is about energy”… you wish to force this truth? You might be surprised how fast they start making claims to things, especially when they must provide their application.

    How far do you wish to go?

  8. MK  December 7, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Under the definition of odious debt, it is not just the wars that are odious debt related. It is the DHS, the spying networks that focus on American citizens and more that could all be classified as odious debt.

  9. MK  December 7, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Unwanted Intelligence doesn’t have a job. He needs one. I know him. I am in touch with him and he is in need of regular work. He is a brilliant forensic auditor. If we don’t help each other like the dark side does…we will never win. I’d also like to commend Gordon on this article, but until things like <====that are stopped, we still have serious problems.

    I can see that some sort of takedown is occurring. The effects aren't readily apparent, but I hope that it begins to hit the echelons where the truly STUPID decisions are being made.


  10. Mike Kay  December 7, 2012 at 9:07 am

    The lapdog media has long worked overtime to pooh pooh the question of high altitude spraying/chemtrails, and the most common argument heard over and over again is that they are nothing beyond normal contrails. This venue is not conducive to a thorough explanation, however, let me say that contrails are nothing more than jet engine exhaust, with the possible addition of de-icers, and they do not persist more than a few minutes behind any jet aircraft.
    Chemtrails, on the other hand differ in both density and persistence to contrails. You will never observe a standard contrail leave a track across the sky from horizon to horizon, persist, and then spread out to form, sickly, grey, amorphous “clouds”.
    Watch the pattern of standard jet traffic. You will soon observe the flight pattern that traffic follows. These imaginary corridors are set up by the FAA to prevent accidents and are not constantly changing, however, the pattern flown by the chemtrailers do not follow these plans, rather operating to cross, weave, and even box together trails.
    Use your own powers of observation, and you will answer your own question.

  11. beausoleil  December 7, 2012 at 7:48 am

    The problem of government corruption, falsified news and history, and theft of farmland and waterfront property is a worldwide problem, not just in America. The exact same techniques of bribery, infiltration of both local police and national military, as well as the judicial system and media, for starters is a common denominator worldwide, so that the thieves can steal with impunity in all nations.

    In all cases, the culprits remain well hidden and people won’t mention their names in public due to the fear of violence against their families.

    “Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force?…The plan of action of our force…remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.” Quote from Protocol #4 Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, based on teachings of the Babylonian Talmud which instructs Jews on the art of ripping off and destroying non-Jews. “Mystery Babylon the great mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth”…Revelation 17. And Rahnameh is right, this is not OUR debt because it is not OUR government…Period.

  12. Robb  December 7, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The next time it’s a very damp day with a lot of moisture in the air, watch the exhaust fumes of moving cars. It’s the same thing. We’re poisoning the planet. It’s no secret. 🙂

  13. Robb  December 7, 2012 at 7:16 am

    LOL, Rahnameh. I doubt you’ll get a reply. I’ve seen both Ann and Aine appear together several times now. Of course, it could just be different people with the same mindset. If they are genuine, they almost certainly don’t know the real difference, not to mention basic science. Some people believe every conspiracy theory they hear, and some none. I don’t know which group is the worst. They both help bury the real ones, like Israel did 9/11.

    But anyone talking about “chemtrails” is best avoided.

  14. Ann  December 7, 2012 at 6:32 am

    Rahnameh, it might be instructive to first google images of the chemtrails, or check youtube, because describing them here would take too long and they all differ. However, once seen they are easily identifiable. Perhaps you are fortunate in that our slave masters have not yet polluted your part of the country. Commercial or cargo planes usually do not leave such trails and even if they do, they would not be so numerous. These trails are quite intentional, the question is why.

  15. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    I know I’m opening a can of worms, but I’m genuinely curious. How are we sure those aren’t airplane contrails, or jet exhaust, again? The explanation of this underlying point would help me to understand better (and possibly others), so if you would be so kind as to explain it, I would appreciate it.

    You don’t have to explain why you (and others) believe they exist. I’ve read plenty on that and the dispersion of aerosols or micro conductive material has an air of science to it. I’m more confused about how we can differentiate between contrails and chemtrails, however.

  16. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Wrote this one to PressTV, and I will just re-copy here if anyone would like to discuss:

    This [piece] gives the global audience here an accurate and executive level insight as to how the inhumane presence of America, completely in violation of [our] founding principles, is to be overcome.

    Simply, a human touch.

    Without a doubt, American “listening posts”, mostly entrenched Zionists providing disinformation to benefit the Zionist agenda, are core to the corrupted nature of Americana. For instance, the SITE Institute, run by two Zionists, claims to be an outsourcing vendor for “terrorist monitoring on the internet.”

    Besides being a joke, they also provided America all of the supposed Bin Laden tapes that followed Bin Laden’s explicit rejection of his involvement in 9/11 (claiming it was a false flag also).

    The State Department and CIA favor the terrorist MEK to reasonable and educated voices who tell them what they really would need to know. Why? That’s where the money is being placed by the usual suspects.

    The same who perpetrated 9/11 are interested in a war on Iran: Zionists.

    And I will add here:
    These Zionists have used the color and authority of this great country to create havoc and violence around the world. Yet, no animus exists against the American people, it is often a type of blame attributed to our government.

    Still, we know even better than foreigners that the foreign policy instrument of this country, just like its media apparatus, just like its finances (the Federal Reserve/Wall Street) are corrupted by Zionists. They are not American and neither are their acts.

    And now, they’ve placed a monument, a reconfigured “Star of Rothschilds”, where they murdered 3,000 Americans to kill many more. Our official seal has a “Star of Rothschilds” placed above the Bald Eagle (look at the configuration of the stars a little closer).

    Mention that our war and bailout debts are odious, a legal doctrine justifiably invoked by 310 million Americans at this juncture, and you will be censored or worse. The bankers create the fiscal holes and fill them with dead, sucked dry American bodies.

    It’s not our debt, it’s not OUR government that is doing these things, and, definitely — MOST CERTAINLY — it is the Talmudic Zionists behind it all. Their fingerprints (h/t Jim Dean) are everywhere.

  17. The Rahnameh  December 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Regardless, Iran has been a nuclear nation for a long time and posed zero threat to anyone with or without them. Their hegemony arose without the notice of these supposed nuclear weapons, if they exist — and that really irks the Zionists.

    Iran’s nuclear program is about progress and sovereign technological achievement, but they are useless strategically. More like an albatross around one’s neck.

    Israel, however, uses them as a strategic resource to blackmail the world through their Samson Bluff. I call it a bluff because we all know Zionists are cowards and never show up to the fights they pick. How many troops did they donate to the “War on Terror” they spurned through their cryptoZionists, the Neocons? A fat zero.

    Before you hold Gordon over a grill for his past statements, also realize that intelligence is dynamic. He’s not running for office, so having him switch positions is perfectly normal.

    Here, however, you’re ignoring the nuance of the argument. RemmicLewis points it out well.

  18. Gordon Duff  December 6, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    The CIA has had to be amputated.

  19. Ann  December 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    The chemtrails are cluttering the sky so badly that they should be renamed graffiti-chem or some such. They are so obnoxious now that they criss-cross and scrawl their junk at will daily and no one has a clue what they are spewing all over us, the air, and the foliage. They get more numerous and brazen with every passing day. Does anyone know how long this will continue or what stunt they have in mind for us, or if this is part of the technogeek screwball system mentioned? I would just love to commandeer one of those things and pack it full of sticky trash ( I’m being very nice) and unload it all over DC. Let’s see how they like it.

  20. Gordon Duff  December 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    nukes are unusable because of service condition and configuration

  21. Mike Kay  December 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    There is a cost to lies and poison and intentional perversion of life.
    The masters, the elite, want that price to be payed by every other life form other than themselves. So far, they’ve been pretty successful at it. The plans they are currently bringing up, will pull them down with everyone else. They have become arrogant, so arrogant they’ve even let their hand show recently. We know ’em now, lots of ’em, and where they hang out.
    Its not the lackey games that are central to the current dystopia, its the barren, satanic, and thoroughly evil minds that hatch them.
    Mr. Duff, you point out the central, crucial, inescapable definition of reality-the sharing of meager resources in an act of friendship, and a burning hope that such works are returned. When we have nothing, sharing it is an act beyond normal descriptions of generosity.
    You nailed it, sir, a key to really being human.

  22. remmiclewis  December 6, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    He has a few jobs. This article needs better comments … I’ll be patient.

  23. remmiclewis  December 6, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    He has a few.

  24. ronaldhoy  December 6, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    He needs a job

  25. remmiclewis  December 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    text is “to say Iran is making nuclear weapons”. Having nukes is different from making nukes.

  26. ronaldhoy  December 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    I think this guy could be on your team.

  27. wolf  December 6, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    An articulate and thoughtful essay. Well done Gordon.

  28. lola  December 6, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    You mentioned Iran had 5 Nukes in your Stew Webb interview on 12/3. Here you refer to Iran Nukes as a myth. Which is it? Really…….???

  29. DaveE  December 6, 2012 at 11:59 am

    That’s the problem, right there. The people who do the “reporting” are probably fine citizens of the United States, for the most part. But their bosses work for a foreign nation, an enemy of the US ever since they did 9/11, maybe longer.

    Sounds like a lot of underlings are realizing they work for Israel, not America, but unfortunately it’s going to take more than CIA’s analysts whining in their cubicles to send the bastards at the top packing.

    It’s a start, but that’s about all I can see from my very limited vantage point.

  30. Joe  December 6, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Team 4Mil ( is rehabilitating wounded veterans through cycling and we are working to become a food growing, emergency response, true American public serving organization that embodies what we felt we were fighting for in the first place. I sent an e-mail looking for support but didn’t hear back. Can someone at VT e-mail me at: [email protected] Ever since your Memorial Day post Gordon, we have rededicated ourselves to becoming what we always thought we were, Warriors for the greater good…albeit a little more banged up these days…Thanks!

  31. Excalibur  December 6, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Just so long as when the new army reports it’s actual findings back to base – that their information is not somehow ‘lost’ in the system or ‘binned’ – in favour of a more ‘helpful’ and ‘on-side’ version penned in Tel Aviv.

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