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HEADING BACK TO THE USS CLEVELAND, MARINE BATTALION LANDING TEAM 1/26, 9TH MARINE AMPHIBIOUS BRIGADE

WHEN AMERICA DESTROYED VIETNAM VETERANS, DID IT SEAL THEIR DOOM?

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Vietnam veterans were taught to hate themselves.  When most of us came home, we didn’t know we had lost a war, for some the blame came a decade later, kind of like an Easter surprise and Christmas present rolled into one.  One of the first things we knew, the game was stacked against us.  I will insert some nasty honesty here.  The military we entered was inferior.  It was a fat and lazy peacetime service.  I joined the “Gomer Pyle Marine Corps,” an elite service capable of training janitors, dishwashers and seaborne waiters.  There were “grungy” real Marines floating around, but as with any organization, the hard fighting, hard drinking, OK, boozing, womanizing fighting drunks the corps was famous for didn’t do well in peacetime.

2nd Platoon, 2nd Squad, A Co. 1/26 Marines, Ed Harris doing the camera and Bill Eckard goofing off somewhere with a head wound
UNIFORM OF THE DAY, LZ ROCKCRUSHER (ABANDONED)

We were an odd bunch, college “burn outs” or high school athletes, kids who had been bullied too much, mental defectives (me) and more than a few who served at the convenience of law enforcement, “sentenced” to death in Vietnam.  The idea of the death sentence was quite real, Marine casualties in Vietnam were 4 times higher than those in World War II (real numbers), with “grunts” often not lasting 30 days and others being worked to death at every imaginable occupation.  I was an engineer, which qualified me as an infantryman.  Thus, when I arrived in Vietnam, I joined a rifle squad, in some ways a family, perhaps a dysfunctional one, but the only one of its type I would ever have, maybe the only one of any type I would ever have.

Opting out of a commission, I served as a fire team leader.  I am still not sure what that was as our squads were so small, often as few as 5 members, we tended to lack any command structure at all.  I still have two guys from my squad around, Ed Harris and Bill Eckard.  Bill is a writer at VT after a 34 year career with the Department of Veterans Affairs.  Ed fishes and drives a pick-up truck.  Ed is the smartest of the group.

With a little bit of room, we are now between 60 and 70 years old.  I spent several years helping Vietnam vets write about their experiences and almost two decades counseling veterans.  Mostly I learned I knew little about a war I fought.  Everyone’s experiences were different, almost as though everyone were in a different war, even a different era.  You

YES, IT RAINED THAT MUCH...INCHES EVERY DAY...MONSOON

could study Vietnam for a century and never really know what the war was like or what it did, good or bad, to those involved.

Good and bad.  If I want to remember the bad, I call up Ed or Bill.  They remember it all.  I block as much out as I can.  They also love telling me all the stupid things I did.  I hope they are making them up.  I am not sure.

Mostly I remember being outside continually, rain, endless walking, opening cans, C-Rations.  They weren’t that bad.  Sleeping on the ground wasn’t that bad either.  We call it “backpacking” now.  Vietnam was beautiful but it was deadly also, in a strange way.  Things could seem safe, seem normal and then, before you knew something had happened, things had gone awry.  Everything I thought I knew about war came from TV.  They didn’t have the endless cable channels that do nothing but show war footage.  We grew up on movies.  About a minute after ending up in the Marine Corps I figured out the movie version was fiction, that and the idea that I may have made a serious mistake.

There is nowhere to go with this.  I was one person but now I have to speak for more simply because people read this.  It isn’t fair but it is reality.  I thought the people I served with would make the world into something amazing. Instead, I am not entirely pleased with how things are.  Is it because we were failures in some way or is it because the best of us died?

I know this for sure.  We never wanted the wars that are going on now.  We don’t like the idea that the volunteer army, whatever they call it, is trained continually, paid more, by our standards overfed, but, if possible, actually treated worse than we were.

SADDLING UP AFTER A NIGHT AMBUSH, YES, WE SLEPT THERE

That is saying a lot.  We were treated like shit.

I was going thru my closet and came on some old photos, poor quality, cheap camera.  I shot, at best, two rolls of film in Vietnam, sent them back to the states to be processed.  There were people who took thousands of photos, bought the best cameras from PACEX (mail order).  Those photos are long lost, nobody cares, same as with the few I have.  I will stick one or two up here, I cleaned the nasty white spots off as best I could using PICASA but they are all I have.

Maybe we can do this for others also.

NAVY CORPSMAN, CLIFF GRAVES, ON AMBUSH WITH 1/26
VIETNAM, DAY PATROL HEADING INTO THE HILLS

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Gordon Duff posted articles on VT from 2008 to 2022. He is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. A disabled veteran, he worked on veterans and POW issues for decades. Gordon is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues. Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world, and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist, and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.