Breaking News: “Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murdered to Keep Them Quiet (Reads: Over 60k VT, nearly 1m worldwide)

Some Possibly Killed in Abbottabad Helicopter Crash Months Before


By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor


Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan. 

The chances of this story being true is almost nil.  The chances of this being a staged coverup is over 80%.  We believe these people were murdered to silence them.  This is why.

We have solid information on two areas:

  1. Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as an active CIA employee and his body was recovered in Afghanistan and taken to “the sand box.”  We were told it was frozen.  We have so much verification from this, CIA, ISI, US military and top officials.  I have a direct confirmation from Bin Laden’s CIA handler who I grilled mercilessly on this.
  2. The Abbottabad operation involved numerous American deaths, witnessed, bodies all over, a helicopter crash. (suppressed translated TV interview below)  These bodies were recovered by land vehicle from Islamabad and there was NO “successful” bin Laden operation of any kind.  There was and has been a CIA safe house in Abbotabad where terror suspects were stored for years.

This gave the US several areas of severe vulnerability.  Generally, Navy Seals are the best people in the world at keeping their mouths shut, these are real team players, as the term “Seal Team” belies.

We at VT were informed that the bin Laden operation was staged at this time, a theatrical farce, to cover the exit of Secretary Gates, the move by former CIA Director Leon Panetta into the DOD as Secretary of Defense and to stem any heroic claims by new CIA Director Petraeus of killing the long dead Osama bin Laden, the long frozen CIA operative.

Petraeus is a possible presidential contender and had to be denied this “gift from heaven,” a fast track to the oval office for sure.

Will We Ever Know What Happened?

Again, I remind you, I went over specific meetings on bin Laden with his handlers, getting every last detail.  I have watched what has gone on, the continuing need to vilify a long dead top CIA operative to provide residual cover for the Bush administration….

The reason?  Bush and his cronies are all facing charges of war crimes, not just in minor jurisdictions but heading for the ICC, putting them on the dock with Gaddafi ( a far less harmful character).

As for the timing of this incident?  This we will work on.  What we can easily surmise is that some of the dead have been dead since their bodies were taken away from the helicopter crash site in Abbotabad.

Who would order such a thing?  We are going to have to wait but we are going to find out.  However, we expected this, the timing is exactly as predicted.


When the phony Abbotbad operation came out, I immediately understood what happened.  I also saw much potential good from it other than the tragedy of the dead Americans from the crash.  I wrote of this and see their deaths as more heroic than many recognize.

They died to erase for all time remnants of the Bush era fairly tale of badguy and evildoer Osama bin Laden.  Enough good men had died chasing a ghost who lived only in phony video and audio tapes by “Bin Laden Studios” in Tel Aviv and in the continual “boogeyman” rhetoric of professional fearmongers.

Not long afterward, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, another able public servant announced the near defeat of Al Qaeda, another Bush fairly tale.

Al Qaeda has never existed, there are no magic worldwide terror conspiracies other than those run by governments.  There are several of those and I have written extensively on these.  Google will help you with this if you are curious.

When VT saw why the government staged this, we saw we could accomplish two things:

  1. We could simply report the truth for those willing to believe it, something we believe is the right thing to do.
  2. We could also support the United States in a very real way, knowing Pakistan would weather this crisis, timed, in some ways, as a face saving move in response to the embarrassing Raymond Davis affair.  I believed if the truth came out, clear enough for insiders, intel and miliary for sure, to understand that we knew and other insiders knew, there would be no reason to “clean house” afterward, to stage a coverup and get rid of any involved.

Abbotabad - How Many Died Here?

I had felt that we had provided cover for the Seal Team, we hadn’t trashed them, we acknowledged the dead at Abbotabad where no one else bothered, this is our job as fellow members of America’s military forces (current and former).

More importantly, we got out word, I certainly did enough radio and TV on this, enough that, for anyone who care, the “truth was out there.”

This is all we could do but I hoped it would stem a need for covering tracks.  After all, anyone leaking real information on the operation would only seem like they had gotten it from me and I put it out there in such a manner that I allowed room to be “debunked.”

I do this to protect myself but I really was thinking of them.  These are great guys, Seals are among the best people on earth.  The Seal and Special Forces communities are, of the military groups in the US, some of the finest people I know.

They also help cover my “behind,” which I appreciate.

This is just too obvious, too brazen.  I can’t imagine it started at the White House or even cabinet level but maybe I am deluding myself.  Bin Laden was all about the election.

After the bond collapse and credit disaster yesterday, anything threatening President Obama’s reelection is seen, by some, as a threat to America’s financial survival.  This debt crisis is a bigger threat to the US than a Japanese invasion in 1942 would have been.

You may not see it that way and you certainly cant get out your hunting rifle to fix it. (Don’t be a sap, kill a Jap!)

Osama in Better Days

Someone had gotten to someone.  My best guess and this is a guess…an expose’ by the mainstream media, perhaps Murdoch, another guess, conjecture I admit, regarding the farce at Abbottabad, information possibly gotten through spying, bribery and blackmail, threatened to take down Obama.

With Murdoch’s good friend and “monkeyboy,” Netanyahu ‘on the ropes,” with crowds marching in Israel’s streets demanding his ouster, we have more timing to factor in.

The bin Laden killing, the third rate drama of capturing an unarmed frozen dead guy and throwing him into the ocean had probably become an albatross around certain high ranking necks.

Norway was no accident, it was a warning too.  It has been containerized, just as the Murdoch espionage issue is now “poor Rupert and the pie thrower.”

These Americans are casualties in a game, one like 9/11, sacrificial pawns, like Britain’s 7/7, all lies, all theatre, all evil.

This is not for public consumption.  There are those who know exactly who I am talking to.

There are many of us here who still keep our mouths shut about so many things.  There are too many who don’t even care, most of us at VT do.  Yes, I am aware I can be jailed, I am aware my passport can be pulled, I already see the damned surveillance.


We aren’t anti-American.  I am simply sick of seeing solutions that go one direction, stealing everything that isn’t nailed down.  I am also sick of the fact that Washington can’t visit the “head’ without Israel’s permission.

This…today, this is too much. It is unforgivable.  We are not going to allow this to stand.

We have a long standing history of “cleaning house” after operations of this kind.  Usually its dead senators in plane crashes, heart attacks, car wrecks, like the Minot Barksdale or 9/11 incidents.  I could name a dozen more.  Does the name Wheeler meaning anything to you?  Anyone remember Pat Tillman?

But this many?



Suppressed TV Report of Navy Seals Killed in bin Laden Operation (Urdo – Translation Below)

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Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad’s Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden’s hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul”, just listen to what he said.

Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation which till this day nobody else has told you.

Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me he telephoned hia reletive, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq Abasi, watch it

Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live

Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you full interview, full or half?

Reporter: Full Full

Bashir: Let me first talk to him

Reporter: To whom? To Abbasi?

Bashir: yes, to Abbasi

Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away

Reporter: How many men?

Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking

Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?

Bashir: Yes They were.

Reporter : How you know?

Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes

Reporter: You saw dead man?

Bashir: Yes, dead men,

Reporter: How many?

Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has seen that but they are silent now.

Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?

Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.

The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.

Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.

May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.

They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.

I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.

My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.

The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?

Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.

The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?

Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get a chance to talk to him later.

Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many things to their neighbours.

Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest to compound of Osama.

She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if they would have ever met osama?

The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.

This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated.

The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see when they wisked his cousin away.

Interviewer asks “Have you spoken to your cousin?”

Bashir “No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. “They will not let him get out” “They will not let me get in.”

2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir’s house Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did “not” live here but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.

Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very “sharif” meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over. Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left to examine.

Deep Background, The Raymond Davis Affair

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264 Responses to "Breaking News: “Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murdered to Keep Them Quiet (Reads: Over 60k VT, nearly 1m worldwide)"

  1. John Cloak  August 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    In the movie “Up” the boy wants to keep the talking dog. The old man says “No!” The boy, in a wide eyed gaze, exclaims, “But it’s a talking dog!”

    This seems to be the case, with the book that contains the same (Authentic) report of the whereabouts of Usama bin Laden, that was sent to the President of the United States. being the authors’ website, it also seems as if the old man (Main Stream Media) is saying “NO!” And the author is saying, with a wide eyed stare; “But it contains the same (Authentic) report of the whereabouts of Usama bin Laden, that was sent to the President of the United States!”

    INSIGHT IGNITES THE EYEWITNESS,by author Mr Cloak: ISBN-10: 0982737122 ISBN-13: 978-0982737125 is that boy, with a wide eyed gaze, claiming: “BUT IT’S A TALKING DOG!”

  2. Dar65  August 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    By suppressing videos, US Govt is re-inforcing the public opinion that this was a staged drama.

  3. OrionRising  August 20, 2011 at 9:33 am

    GREAT site! Many kudos to you! Confirms all that I suspected for quite awhile! TRUTH HURTS THOSE AGAINST IT!

  4. william f mcdonagh3  August 14, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    gordon i just saw your interview about rupert murdouch, the war monger ,zionist front man,that was one of the best commentaries ive ever seen a+,another piece of the 9-11 puzzle, firmly in place.can you investigate if there is any smoke around rupert and the supposed 9-11 phone calls made to loved ones from the fatal planes i think they released this information about hacking into 9-11 family victims voice mail,to cover up something more dubious,could be another piece of the puzzle

  5. w.u.j.b.gtheg  August 11, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Someone out there is going to change the course of history.

    You have not heard of this man and this man does not know it is he.

    The man that I am talking about will not be a wide-awake patriot who sees what is going on.

    This man will be the enemy of freedom and will have inside knowledge and reputation to permanently destroy this machine of lies.

    What will this man be like?

    He will lead three lives; a cold professional life, a warm and shallow social life and a dark, conflicted personal life, which no one knows about.

    He has no guilt about the very real pain that he has caused, whether it is ill gotten gains, or death tolls.

    He is excited by instant gratification, which gives him more financial or political power.

    He is extremely smart and knows how to scheme and spin situations in his favor.

    He is someone that is deeply involved in the machine of debt and war.

    He has an arrogant attitude because he is thoroughly indoctrinated into the machine.

    He is one of the most ardent and fervent supporter of this machine.

    He is closed off to the truth and has pushed away those who love him.

    He has committed legalized crimes against humanity.

    He believes that the ends justify the means.

    He believes that might makes right.

    He sees the end of the lie.

    He finds out that he was wrong about everything.

    He is encouraged by the strength that he sees in “weaker” people.

    He reaches out to someone that is of the of another political world.

    He opens up and has deep conversations with this new friend.

    He challenges this person with hard questions that he is wrestling with.

    He has put the pieces together in his head and sees the absolute clarity of truth.

    He latches onto one simple truth and it will split his world in two.

    He no longer passively accepts the status quo; silence is consent.

    He seeks redemption by plotting to destroy what he has created.

    He creates a deathblow to the machine, that has nearly consumed his soul.

    He no longer fears being called names like un-patriotic or traitor.

    He is willing to take great personal sacrifice needed in order to strike this blow.

    He uses all of his cunning skills, once used to do evil, now in doing good.

    He does this without the support of anyone and is guided by something greater than himself.

    He has found a new energy and passion about his mission

    He takes a moment before he commits his world changing action and feels utter and complete calm.

    He will cast the die of truth for his world to explode.

    For the first time in his life, he is completely free.

    We will be eternally indebted to this man and the men that follow him.

    All men die, yet most never really live.

    • w.u.j.b.gtheg  August 11, 2011 at 4:04 pm

      There will be a Man on a White Horse

  6. Alan Folsom  August 11, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Mr. Duff is a great American patriot. We need more like him. Congratulations to VeteransToday for its gutsy and heroic stands.

    • w.u.j.b.gtheg  August 11, 2011 at 3:55 pm

      like what Alan said

  7. Wing Yu  August 11, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    These aren’t the same guys. Give us one name that matches. This has really lowered the credibility of this site. Too bad. Thought someone still had intellectual integrity.

    • Alan Folsom  August 11, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      It’s the Defense Dept. that is saying some of them were the same people. They’re also claiming we got revenge on the “insurgents” who shot down the helicopter. Right. The public wouldn’t have it any other way. After all, we’re the good guys chasing the bad guys, aren’t we? Don’t they always get the bad guy in our movies? By the way, what are we even doing in their country?

    • OS - Final  August 11, 2011 at 3:16 pm

      Security needs to be reviewed, down too any contractor involved. This incident needs investigated, bottom line.

  8. Mohammed  August 11, 2011 at 1:44 am

    another thing that id just thought id mention here,
    the problems alllie in the interest based financial system that in operation worldwide- its in the hands of these zionist parasites.
    take that away from them, you have cut off their power base.
    we need to revert to the gold standard & take back all the gold that these pigs have stolen.
    just imagine- they print our money & lend it on interest to us!
    money thats not backed by gold
    & when anyone defaults on payments, the attach real assets like your car & home.
    if i remember correctly, there has been a homeland created for these “people without a land”- somewhere in Russia- place called Birobidjan-Jewish Autonomous Republic.

    we should take the jews from all over the world & put them there.
    the thing is, its hard to know who are zionists amongst them & who are not.
    those that are not in favour of the actions of their zionist brothers & sisters remain silent so we cant help but paint them all with the same brush.

  9. John Cloak  August 10, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Hi, “Nobody special, just an American”…a little proof never hurts…and God Bless You, for I am pissed off about all this myself, too!

    6.) Why; is Obama still blocking the release of the emails sent to the Bush Whitehouse…that lead to the demise of Senator Martinez, Governor Crist, and U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney…


    Obama is still blocking the release of the emails sent to the Bush Whitehouse…that lead to the demise of Senator Martinez, Governor Crist, and U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney…because, the SALUTE Report, concerning the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden was sent to the Whitehouse email address, and along with it, copies of emails that were sent to them also. Which started an investigation, and found their offices grossly incompetent and hampering the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden investigation…

    As for U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney being replaced; she contracted a Philippine Military Officer, who interrogated this veteran (Me) inside the US Embassy building. I will never forgive her for that treason, and yes, I put that in the book also…at the time, I was more pissed of then your comment above, “Nobody special, just an American!”

    Anyone else feel like “Nobody special, just an American,” if so, it’s understandable…I’m sure we all feel pissed off about this whole thing going on inside our government!

    The cover-ups have been going on, all along…it’s enough to piss off anybody…me too!

    I have my proof, and look forward to my day in court…to ask for your help, seems like the right thing to do!

  10. Nobody special, just an American  August 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm


    Watch Your Back !! I mean it. These people in the Military Industrial Complex are running scared. They are doing more an more stupid stuff.. I’m not military and I can see through their crap.

    I’m sure you are aware of the little drug that causes liver cancer within months.. along with all the other stuff. Be Very Careful… and keep up doing what you are doing. Get a food taster ;^)
    You Sir, Kick Arse !!

    Someone Has to tell the Truth.. and right now, VT ( never thought I would ever say this ) is one of the FEW places where the truth is being told or at very least questioned.

    BTW.. Zionism and Judaism are entirely different religions, beliefs and concepts. If you are of Jewish faith and don’t know that, you need to know more about your own religion. Personally, I don’t need false gods and quit believing in all that rubbish ( which is brainwashing 101) right after I figured out santa clause.

  11. Paolo  August 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Yeh, sure, Bin Laden has got three wives and a brood of kids hanging around, in he’s in his room jerking off all day to porn. LOL LOL LOL LOL Just who at Psyops comes up with the stuff??? Did they hire junior highschool interns over there????

  12. Paolo  August 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    What I thought hilariously bogus about the Abbottabad Osama hoax was that the US/UK SHMEDIA reported that Osama was addicted to porn.

    Yeh, sure, Bin Laden has got three wives and a brood of kids hanging around, in he’s in his room jerking off all day. LOL LOL LOL LOL Just who at Psyops comes up with the stuff??? Did they hire junior highschool interns over there????

  13. mona  August 10, 2011 at 3:11 am

    I hope the truth comes out in the media..pakistan has n vl suffer a lot coz of the finding of Osama in Pak..cant understand how politicians can get so cruel…abbotabad is one of the most beautiful places in Pak n they ve turned it into a terror town!! this is not only the sealing of the seals but this whole drama has been staged to further weaken Pak n eventually break it into pieces!! the truth is an Islamic country with atomic power is not acceptable to the West!!!

  14. John Cloak  August 10, 2011 at 2:30 am

    Well, God Bless All Of You, but you did not see him with your own eye’s, I did…

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    If you were the eyewitness, would you write a memoir before some nut case takes you out?
    I sure would…and I have done just that!

    They told me “FOLLOW YOU DIE!”

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    1.) Why; Senator Martinez quit and did not run for re-election
    2.) Why; Governor Crist lost the support of the GOP
    3.) Why; U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney got replaced


    Of Interest To All!


    4.) Why; is U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Harry K. Thomas, Jr. spending thousands and thousands of tax payers money’s, contracting non-US Citizen Surveillance Teams to covertly spy on US Citizens and their families living in the Philippines…

    5.) Why; is U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Harry K. Thomas, Jr. allowing and or contracting, non-US Citizens to take part in the decision making process while governing over US Citizens in the Philippines through the Veterans Administration, and the Social Security Administration offices in the Embassy…

    6.) Why; is Obama still blocking the release of the emails sent to the Bush Whitehouse…that lead to the demise of Senator Martinez, Governor Crist, and U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney…

    no, not anymore!

  15. Susan  August 9, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    The people of the United States as well as the rest of the world know that the first terrorist in USA and elsewhere, is the USA, itself. Our government is all about lies, corruption, and greed since the beginning of time and until the very end until we, the people, take a stand. Our government will do anything and everything to get what they want even if it means “false flags.” Unfortunately, most people are blind or in denial and it’s time to wake up before we are in total control of every single thing we do and say on a daily basis. Now is the time to speak up, fight for our rights, spread the word, and go all out if we have to as one before it’s too late. The USA is in debt because of the poor decisions of our politicians while thye continue spending trillions in unnecessary wars that are fakes and scams There are no wars for peace and for our county, only for money and power. There is no care at all from our politicians and government for our safety, only chemtrails and HAARP. There are no doctors and hospitals that care about our well being, only to make pharmaceuticals richer. Trust no one, believe nothing. Be aware of all and ready for anything. If only the military wakes up and say enough is enough and come home, the government will be overpowered and finally there can be a chance for peace. Just like cops, our government gets away with anything such as: 9/11, lie about Bin Laden’s death, Obama’s birth certificate, and many more. Shame on them but they will all have to answer to God on Judegment Day.

  16. waqas aziz mir  August 9, 2011 at 11:52 am

    very interesting ….. thanks for sharing the facts … peace from Pakistan

  17. Warrior  August 9, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Thanks Gordon. If the free press didn’t tell you, who would?

  18. Hal Herrin  August 9, 2011 at 8:23 am




    I knew there was something fishy about the stories of the raid on the compound and the killing of OBL as well as the chopper crash in Afghanistan the other day!! How come we’ve been in Afghanistan for 10 years and this is the first chopper that has been shot down by an RPG? What??? One lucky Taliban out of a million goat f–kers? Fishy! Fishy! Fishy! He just decided this one day that he would climb up on a hill and shoot at a chopper…come on…!!!!! Everyone in this administration should be shot in the head in public!!

  19. Dickson  August 9, 2011 at 6:28 am

    This is all seemingly so complex and evil and unreal that it is hard to even get your mind around it, but at the root cause there is a primary source of the evil: Zionism. Zionism caused 9/11, Zionism caused the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Zioinsm controls US foreign policy, Zionism controls the Federal Reserve and Congress.

    Don’t get distracted by the immensity and fail to see the underlying enemy.

    Just like in London today, it is blacks rioting but who wanted them there to break up national unity and pressured politicans for an open door, who has been promoting multiculturalism in the media: Zionists.

    Until this malevolent evil has been destroyed there is no hope.

  20. Smitty  August 8, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Al Jazeera also interviewed the neighbors and they were all in disbelief. If memory serves, a tweet went out that saw the helicopter EXPLODE and he was also interviewed. He emphasized the extreme rarity of helicopters. Chinese and Russian news said the helicopter was Pakistani initially. Whatever went on there, those pics of the guys who they shot, I’m not an expert but the blood looked fake. I could be wrong

  21. Ann Dabbas  August 8, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    If you get to the bottom or this it’s so simple.
    The world has always been afraid of the Jews. I know there are some very good Jews but the trouble makers seem to stand out. Even back in history it was that way and one example is where Jesus told them to their face: “You are murders from the beginning, you are liars and sons of liars and your native tongue is lying.” John 8: 44

  22. OHIO  August 8, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    yeah ,well he’s on medication and has lots of crazy ideas
    Now good proper Americans get their newz from FOXFALSEFLAG911FAKENEWZ.

    • OHIO  August 8, 2011 at 8:14 pm


  23. OHIO  August 8, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    the cousin alex cattle of america

  24. JJ  August 8, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Let me begin Gordon by saying I respect your work. I respect what you have become , what you stand for and your bravey in expousing the truth to the military and non-militray comunity. I know it’s hard. What I take issue with is the no questions asked, ass kissing, propagandized, respect we give to the people who serve in the empires murdering. maurading, military. I understand we have been lied to from birth about our contries history and have been indoctrinated into a servile tool of the zionist. new world order, banking empire. Anti depression meds, video games. the mainstream media propagabda. Name it. It’s enough to make you wanna go kill gooks, hadji’s, nazi’s whatever the flavour of the empire’s needs direct you. It’s no different than it was a hundred years ago, a thousand years ago with one exception. The truth is out there. Guys like you serve this country, or what little is left of it, more than a thousand times more then the mindless grunts who take orders to kill civilians without a murmur. You have served this country and mankind a million times more through your words than any minute you spent in Asia defending nothing. I believe there truely is no honor in dying for kleptocratic masters. This point needs to be driven home to the troops so they get out don’t join or quit. The fight is at home boys. Support our troops. F that, I’ll support you guys when you wake up and come home to the real fight that’s here. It’s been here awhile, even in Gordon’s time.

    • dirt  August 8, 2011 at 7:07 pm

      Gettin there JJ, stearing a country here, not a boat……the time is coming through Gordons words and others.

  25. cliff  August 8, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    I found the image of Bin Laden in front of an old radio kind of out of place. Why was the terror of Islam limited to an old radio with rabbit ears? He looked more like a sick or frail individual with limited resources.

  26. Northpal  August 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Was there ever a “seal team 6” or was that a fantasy also. That way everything is just another conspiracy rabbit hole to keep everybody busy as anyone with any knowledge about anything can be silenced. Then let it out they MAY have been part of the phantom “seal team 6” whose records are national security. After another dozen years of harping on it they relinquish the fact that no they were not part of the phantom team “seal team 6”. Alice how you like wonderland so far.

    • dirt  August 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      Sorry Northpal, I’ve met Demo Dick Marcinko and still have a 1st edition copy of his Rogue Warrior book with a dedicated signing to me personally (favorite of mine on the shelf). I’m pretty sure he exists as does SEAL 6 which he was instrumental in bringing online, hell he basically invented it and ultimately had to retire the NAVY becasue of it. DEVGRU……? Northpal? Counterterror? Northpal? Another american who can’t/won’t goto the library. Literacy needs more impetus than just being literacy.

    • Northpal  August 8, 2011 at 9:02 pm

      Sorry Dirt but you are telling me everything you read is true ??? Counterterror is not the new bogeyman ???? Your history books are true ???? Your news is true ???? Was Tonkin incident true ??? You have no idea whats true or not true, oh right reading one book tells ya eh??? Now maybe this “seal team 6″ is true but considering Bin Laden myth is not, considering there is so much credible evidence he was killed years ago, considering Bush and Cheney them selves said he had nothing to do with 911, how the hell would this “seal team 6″ have gone on a mission that killed him in a raid ?????? So yes considering everything connected to terrorism hoax is surly suspect and tainted.

    • dirt  August 9, 2011 at 9:57 am

      Can’t really help you, your not sticking to the point. I’ would imagine that a CIA safe house containing a bin Laden look-alike would be plenty enough to paint this false picture. If in fact seal team 6 went in. Let me state, I don’t read history books that aren’t vetted by people who were there and trustworthy in the past. I mainly read whistleblowers. Even then, there will be innacuracies. You are all over the map, Bin Laden most likely died from what is called Marfan syndrome in 2001. Not too long before that he met with a high level CIA asset. Bin Laden of course has been the invisible boogie man that Tel aviv has been spweeing about for a decade. Point is, the raid is window dressing. If a seal team went in there, a look a like is all that would be needed. They had shoot on sight orders for more cover ups, they have a frozen piece of flesh that actaully doesn’t point to it really being Bin Laden if you know about mitochondrial DNA and what the test really tells you. No one on board the carrier is allowed to talk to the press because the sailors are “all too angry, excited about it still”. Even the idiots who have been faking Bin Laden tapes for this long knew they had to let this go sometime. Expedient politically, militarily, etc. Now they have Bin Ladens “computer”. This is merely a way to trot out new threats forever because it was on his computer. Ooooops, can’t read books on planes now because Bin Laden had a recipe for explosive paper!! OOOOps, can’t use the internet w/o a drivers license because Bin LAden had recruited and trained Jihadists to track down civil servants via the internet. That computer will be the biggest propaganda piece the Hill and government ever needed to supress america. I can’t wait for the headlines, “ENCRYPTED FILE ON BIN LADEN COMPUTER BROKEN!!!” details to follow from NSA. Fppppptttttttt. I trade stocks for a living, I do well because I can predict these fascist pukes that make policy. And I read articles and books from people who know what the hell they are actually talking about. I’ve read maybe 7 books on Rommel, I only consider 1 of them reliable because it only contains info from the people that knew him and served with him. Trust me when I say this, when the TV or radio thinks something is a good idea and should guide policy, I take the exact opposite view and I’m rarely, rarely, wrong. Black is white and 2+2 = 5 everytime. Sickens me, but I’ve come to grips with it. You said, “So yes considering everything connected to terrorism hoax is surly suspect and tainted.” I apply that to much more than terrorism. Everything your government does above the local level is contrary to your well being, bank on it. I do 3-4 days a week in the market. So you could say, I put my money where my mouth is on this point.

  27. Northpal  August 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Question, was there ever such a thing “SEAL Team 6” or was that fantasy ?

  28. dirt  August 8, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Per usual, excellent article Mr. Duff, recyling the death of the SEALS from the first lie and into this debacle is convenient. Always learn a new angle, also though, the witness stresses the commandos spoke pashtun. Sounds like green berets after language schools, not SEALS. Wish I knew, but I’d say your closer than anything I’ve read so far anywhere. Too bad it’s always about dead americans fighting zionist wars.

    To Swissik, get over your PC uselss feelings and get with the program. I rarely see anyone here talk poorly about semites. I only talk about Ashkenazi scumbags personally. 10% of Israel is actually semitic, and they are good people that believe in the real jewish laws and religion. Not the babylonian talmud that all those blue eyed ****suckers espouse, you can find them on our supreme court bench, federal reserve board, Goldman sachs, etc. There’s two kinds of Jew as I see it, the good and the bad. Any Zionist you encounter is slime. Research, research, research……

  29. A.Wright  August 8, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    They stage a raid on Abbottabad to kill Osama Bin Laden , who is already dead. Navy Seals are killed during the attack to kill someone that they know is already dead. They then kill the Navy Seals who survived , by staging a helicopter accident , sorry ‘accident’ , to stop them talking about the raid they sent them on to kill someone who was already dead. The people who staged the accident, sorry ‘accident’ will very soon of course have to be killed to stop them talking about the helicopter accident ,sorry ‘accident’ they staged to kill the Navy Seals who didn’t die in the accident , sorry ‘accident’ , no sorry accident, during the raid on Abbattobad to kill Osama Bin Laden who was already dead. The people who killed the people who killed the Navy Seals who survived the raid to kill the man who was already dead will, of course then have to be killed to stop them telling everyone the whole load of bullshit above. Except for Gordon Duff who already knows it, having made it up.

    • Gordon Duff  August 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

      I am still hiding the WMDs in Iraq, I stole the plane wreckage at the pentagon, I blew up building 7 and I am shipping 80 billion in heroin from Afghanistan.

      fargin genius.


    • Gordon Duff  August 8, 2011 at 2:44 pm

      comedy is difficult, irony even harder. BTW, I spent a week in Wicklow one afternoon. One of us has a fine Irish name at least.

    • Gordon Duff  August 8, 2011 at 5:39 pm

      as someone living in a coastal town south of dublin, reminds me of those who grew fat exporting food to britain during the potato famine
      ireland has certainly known troubles

    • A.Wright  August 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm

      That’s all very interesting about the name of the author of a randomly picked book off my bookshelf.

    • Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      Denial of the Osama Bin Laden mythology is considered to be complete proof of being Anti-American,
      survey results of a few thousand Cattle done personally by an American

    • A.Wright  August 9, 2011 at 9:50 am

      “Ok guys we want you to kill a whole helicopter full of Navy Seals. Why?..well , I mean do you need a reason? Ok, the reason is to get rid of the guys who killed Bin Laden, so they won’t talk about killing Bin Laden. You remember the big Bin Laden thing where they killed Bin Laden? – we don’t want them to talk about it. Ok? Geez, you guys, you need a reason for every little thing. Give you orders to kill your comrades and it’s questions , questions. It’s the conspiracy people at home who are supposed to ask all these questions. Have you no consideration for those guys? They sweat over their computers until the early hours, looking for some conspiracy stuff to write about and you’re going , why this, why that. Ok here’s the bomb, you just put that in the helicopter before they take off. And remember , don’t tell anyone about this…you never know what might happen to you..”

    • Gordon Duff  August 9, 2011 at 9:55 am

      why i use the language i do…

      why i separate fact from probability and probability from conjecture


  30. SAK  August 8, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Hats off to you Gordon, for having the guts to speak the truth, wish there were more men like you in the US armed forces, and wish the rest of the Americans used only one tenth of the brain that you do, hope you and your family stay safe, the official osama story is like a B grade western movie one doesnt need to have a double digit IQ to see through the lies, which goes to show what the US Govt thinks about the intelligence of its masses, and how brain washed people are because of the main stream media, which ofcourse is entirely zionist controlled, and i can bet my life savings that the seals chinook was taken out by Mossad, infact over the lat 25 years Israel has killed more american troops and civillians (in false flag ops) than any other country. Wake up Americans.

  31. Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 10:56 am

    i do not like using the word thanks in regards to this post but i still used it
    i appreciate vt and appreciate your efforts and contributions,
    these Men were all better than me and i know that ,
    somrtimes the 3rd string can still hang onto a tiny shred of dignity by at least acknowledging they are 3rd string or 4th string and in that way the Men who had their crap together solid would not despise us too much
    their deaths like this is outside of the outside
    please forgive idiots like me who did nothing but yap about all this crap for years and years and had no affect on anything and didn’t save anyone or even helped save someone their last 2 pints of blood

    • Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      I know, if it is not on their tv it does not exist ,nothing works,
      Nothing, it is impossible

    • Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm

      Most Republican Party candidates appear to cater to them, even if they are not themselves Judeo-Christians, because so many votes are at stake. Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota, is said to be a serious candidate for US President and is a living example of a discordant and bazaar thinker, but she will resonate with some 70 million Americans who are known to be influenced by the Judeo-Christian illness. Here are some of her words from her own website that should be carefully examined: (Endnote 1)
      *”Most Americans recognize that Israelis and Americans are two sides to the same coin because we share the same values…we even share the same mission, to be a light to the nations.. ”
      *”We learned that our Christian Faith is rooted in Judaism.” Without the laws of Moses, without the Temple (at Jerusalem) there would have been no sermon on the mount.”

      *”It was this love for Israel and the Jewish state” that brought me to volunteer for a kibbutz in 1974

      *”Upholding American values”…means “we must stand with Israel.” “I stand with Israel… “our policies in the Middle East must be guided by this imperative.”

      It should be clear to all but other Christian Zionists that Bachmann can not function in national office under oath because her first commitment is to another flag, not to the USA, to another people, not to Americans first. Other irrational beliefs common to and defining Christian Zionists that she might or might not admit to, and that are incompatible with following a traditional Jesus Christ, include:

      *Wars are just, if they are Israel’s wars…

      *The present world will be destroyed by God to punish the evil doers, and the Christ followers will be saved and ushered into a spiritual kingdom, the rest left behind.
      *The State of Israel is God’s fulfillment of the Old Testament prophesies (Jesus too).
      This bubble is about to burst, as all bubbles do. Fortunately for the Americans, Judeo-Christianity is coming apart at the seams from its own weaknesses.

    • Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 2:20 pm

      Walid Shoebat: Church Propagandist for Evangelical Zionism, Homeland Security Anti-Terrorist Trainer

      Charles E. Carlson Jul 20, 2011

      Anderson Cooper on CNN News’ show, Anderson Cooper 360o, exposed a former Palestinian school boy named Walid Shoebat, who has become a manufactured “terror expert” promoting anti-Islamist hysteria among federal law enforcement officers and in Evangelical, Christian Zionists churches. The CNN piece1 focused on unraveling Shoebat’s claimed history as a “terrorist” into a pile of yarn, showing it consisted of not even half truths. It also revealed how much money Shoebat is being paid by US taxpayers to train federal police and American Christian Zionists.

      CNN stopped short of saying what will be tough to prove… that Shoebat is a de-facto Israeli agent operating in the USA. Furthermore, it is likely he was recruited here, because it appears that Israel never heard of him when he lived with his family in Beit Lahor, near Bethlehem, where he claims to have been a “terrorist” trying to kill Jews.

      Shoebat’s written response, “I Confess…”, to Anderson Cooper’s telling exposé, was immediately spread far and wide by World Net Daily and other news sources in sympathy with Israel and Christian Zionists.2

      Why is Shoebat so well paid? Here is an example of what he says to earn his money. CNN News researcher Drew Griffin recorded Shoebat’s lecture to law enforcement and first respondent personnel in South Dakota. Griffin’s remarks included, “Shoebat’s message to the law enforcement agencies, churches and universities that pay him to speak is to trust no Muslims, especially the ones that organize. ‘All Islamic organizations in America should be the No. 1 enemy. All of them,’ he said at the South Dakota conference.”

  32. usmcviet1967  August 8, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Gordon..Geez, reading some of your writings makes me re-live “The X-Files” TV show. Conspiracy theories,
    cover-ups..the whole nine yards. I agree that the American people should have been shown Bin Laden’s body
    after the “we got him” episode. But why in hell cover up his death (supposedly in 2001), and make up this
    so-called bullshit story regarding this weekend’s Selas disaster. I try to believe in this Administration, and do
    hope that Obama is man enough to “man up”. But, then again, after capitulating last week on this horriffic debt
    deal I wonder WTF is happening ? Does he have a plan up his sleeve between now and the elections to bust
    the GOP and asshole Tea Party’ists ? Or is he just a closet whimp ? Semper Fi

    • Gordon Duff  August 9, 2011 at 6:12 am

      The question is, how do we get rid of a police state? With a planeload of congress heading to Israel, and NOTHING good is going to come of fact NONE Of them should be allowed back..but rather sent on the rest of their trip…North Korea…maybe the brothels of Thailand…

      Washington is dead. We either clean it out or it cleans us out.

  33. Oklahoma  August 8, 2011 at 10:39 am


  34. adeUK  August 8, 2011 at 8:30 am

    This chap may have info
    Yesterday I published an article asking some questions about the circumstances surrounding the deaths of roughly 30 American soldiers in Afghanistan, some of which belonged to the infamous SEAL Team 6.

    Thanks to my astute readers I was deluged with responses and explanations to some of my more ignorant questions.

    I have received many other e-mails, some of which I would like to publish but I need to receive permission from the authors before I do so.

    In addition I am likely going to follow up with some of the former and active military readers that have contacted me for more information as this unfolds.

    If you have any information or feedback, please contact me at [email protected] and let’s keep these deceased, brave Americans in our hearts by trying to find out just exactly what happened that day as best as we can. Please tell me if you approve of your comments being published and if you are available for follow-up comments.

  35. Betsy Metz  August 8, 2011 at 6:59 am

    Thank you, Gordon, for all you and everyone connected with VT do… to expose truth, lies & propaganda to bring our country back to what is was intended to be… I don’t know if it ever was.. but how can we all not try to do so (knowing what many of us know now re 9/11 and all else)?

    Betsy Metz
    Independent 9/11 Truth Activist

  36. John Cloak  August 8, 2011 at 6:43 am

    Your close on this, but not 100%…I am the eyewitness…and was told “FOLLOW YOU DIE”…you should visit my website and blog at

    I wish you would, because the Obama Administration is blocking my ever move, as I try to get this information to the public before he has a chance to be re-elected…I will not go down without a fight!

    • Gordon Duff  August 8, 2011 at 7:45 am

      looks like you have something here.

  37. goshe  August 8, 2011 at 5:57 am

    I’d like to offer the word by word translation of the video above for subtitels. However i do not have video editting skills. gosheking @ gmail

  38. Jonathan Mark  August 8, 2011 at 5:07 am

    The key to get the word out.. and bring forth courageous whistleblowers is to have an independent fair investigation of events surrounding 9-11-2001 This is what former Senator Mike Gravel has proposed via a state ballot initiative for a Citizens 9/11 Investigation –

    This has already been filed for being on the 2012 ballot in Massachusetts, and soon in Oregon.

    • Betsy Metz  August 8, 2011 at 7:02 am

      And attend the Mike Gravel-supported 9/11 hearings in Toronto 9/8-9/11/2011…

    • smacko  August 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      Yes, I agree, we must not be Misdirected/Obstructed by ANY ‘personality’, including ourself!
      That’s why we stay focused on due-processing Accountability!

      (Until we achieve proper due-processing Accountability regarding subject salient issue/question: WhoDid911? )

      really quite simple, but for cogdis doublespeak routines 😉

      Furthermore, suggesting Mr. Gravel is verdict dictator, would be disinfo!
      (doing such to misdirect / obstruct pursuit of proper due-processing would exhibit untrustworthy hypcrisy & perhaps crime 😉

      PR Newswire – International Hearings on 9/11 to begin in Toronto in September

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