By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

9 years after 9/11, American drug production in Afghanistan has gone from zero to 92% of world output.  Calling the drug business there anything but “American” is a lie.  We don’t just “turn way,” we are in it up to our necks, maybe deeper.  Last week we learned that USAID, part of the Department of State, was supplying fertilizer for opium production.  Testimony that implicates every level of the American government in drug dealing, corruption and even complicity in terrorism has been ignored or suppressed for years.  The American government, in concert with the powerful Israel lobby, is working to silence citizen dissent, suppress “open source” information and control, not just the media but every form of human communication beyond the guarded whisper.

No police state in history is guilty of more.

In particular, I recently read the most recent additions to Dimitri  Khalezov’s book on 9/11.  Khalezov was a Russian “special weapons” officer.  This led his examination to look at applications of advanced technologies tied to the application of particle physics, fission and fusion weapons and “Star Wars” technology which he has a unique understanding of.  What was enjoyable was his non-dogmatic approach.  There are so many theories around regarding 9/11, with government paid “shills” coming up with a new and crazier version almost weekly.  For every pronouncement about Al Qaeda and hijackers the government makes overtly, they make ten pronouncements about space aliens and cosmic death rays on the internet.

We know they do it, they have been caught repeatedly.  These are the actions of a police state.

I am not ready to comprehensively discuss all the reasons that 9/11 is such a disgusting subject.  Suffice it to say that the naked lies the government has foisted on the public for so long are both irrational and patently insane.  This is where Khalezov shines.  He has a way of cutting through the manure.

It is funny to read a Russian discuss 9/11.  One area that we can deal with today and, perhaps, put one minor thing to rest is how the World Trade Center was built and why an aircraft, why 500 aircraft could never hurt it.  Oh, you say, the plane flew right through the building, passing through the thin glass windows and out the other side.

Yup, that’s how it seemed.

How Khalezov describes the outer walls of the WTC is though comparison with a World War II T-34 Russian Tank.  His point is that each of the beams that made up the outside of the building, space 3 feet apart, had four sides, each not only harder but thicker than the armor on a tank.  The analogies used by Khalezov were compelling.

His first point, of course, is that anti-tank rounds are never made of aluminum.  You don’t use aluminum knives.  Aluminum can’t cut steel.

We could go further:  Crashing a Boeing 767 into 20 massive 4 sided hardened steel girders, highly supported and interlaced, cutting through them and eventually bringing down the largest building in the world would be the equivalent of throwing a beer can at a garbage truck.

Want more?  Cutting a steel knife with a piece of cheese?

Derailing a freight train with a thrown marshmallow?  OK, that one is a bit much, but you get the picture.  Aircraft are made of lightweight and very thin aluminum.  The WTC had a massive outer wall of heavy steel, thick enough to armor a tank, a similar center structure around the core and a second wall for a plane to pass through.  No possible amount of aluminum in any shape or configuration at 400 miles per hour or 2000 miles per hour could pass through one steel beam much less dozens.

Pages are spent describing this point nobody has discussed other than Khalezov.  It is clear that Khalezov and David Ray Griffin don’t see “eye to eye” on the methods used to bring the building down.  In many ways, it is a shame that there is a more powerful need to deal with the science before we deal with the criminal intent, especially finding those responsible.  I respect both men for the work they have done and their disagreement is an honest one.  That both manage to disagree with each other and still humiliate the government’s fabrication is both curious and compelling.

This point all are in agreement.  Khalezov is emphatic that the wildest possible conspiracy theory involves box cutters, hijackers and  a massive building “pancaking” to the ground in total free fall while enough steel to build a naval fleet turns into dust. No idiot could believe that, a “hare brained” lie that has proven to be assembled from planted witnesses, misquotes and total fabrications.

If even one of these things were a factor, it would be evidence of a criminal conspiracy.  That all are present, that and the massive government spy operation directed against those seeking the truth, an operation that takes up an entire department header by Cass Sonnenstein, with a title that unavoidably sounds like “Reichs Minister of Propaganda,” we can say “case closed.”  We can also say with some certainty, “No Muslims were harmed in the making of this picture.”

I don’t plan on going there but something haunts me.  Nobody has seen or heard from Osama bin Laden since 2001.  Benazir Bhutto says he was killed then.  Intelligence officials from several countries confirm this privately.  Yet we have a hundred thousand people looking for him, nearly 5,000 have died hunting him after his death was confirmed, as reliable sources tell us.

On the other hand, the “suicide hijackers” we claim were on the planes on 9/11 seem to be, not only alive, but are thinking of suing the networks for being refused entry into the country to go on talk shows.  How can we have dead hijackers kept out of the country because they are on terrorist watch lists?  Doesn’t that stop when you die?

What kind of place are we running here?

But, we are here to talk dissolving steel, magically plummeting buildings and government misconduct.  When the NIST stated that the WTC “pancaked” they misrepresented the amount of concrete in the upper stories.  There was nothing to collapse, only vertical steel, no huge concrete walls, no pillars made of concrete and only thin concrete floors.  They lied.

Almost all the concrete in the buildings is in the foundation, there is little in the upper floors.  They are steel.  It would be like dissolving several aircraft carriers and seeing them blow away with the wind, except this is exactly what we saw.  However, we have seen one other steel building, the Windsor Building, in Madrid, burn for 24 hours.  This building was nowhere as strong and burned, not one hour but for at least a day.

The “government’ runs a website at www.america.gov meant to “debunk” 9/11.  They refer to an article from Popular Science and a study done by the National Institute of Standards.  Few scientists will stand by any of this anymore, they are all either onboard with “9/11 Truth” or protecting their careers with silence.

When we talk about steel no plane could ever penetrate, the NIST does supply a nice photo, though.

My recommendation is to read the book, not because I agree with it or everything it says.  Simply read it because it provides many relevant points, and some clear warnings about how serious government interference has been in the process of finding the truth.

Every lie, every infiltrated group, every bit of ridiculous pseudo-science proves one thing.  9/11 was an inside job and those responsible are still pulling the strings in America.

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  1. Thermo  November 9, 2010 at 2:20 am

    Actually Brian, Dimitri does not claim mini-nukes brought down the buildings. Moreover, it is claimed that the buildings were dustified with “thermonuclear weapons. Also the story that the unexploded soviet nuke was impetuous for implementation of the so called emergency demolition plan is part of the disinfo for those in the upper reaches of the U.S. Government for justification of the emergency demo plan.
    You should read the book, Dimitri presents a quite compelling theory.

  2. Shallel  October 28, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Foo, your questions are very legit. These videos of UA175 are fake. They portray a physically impossible event. Take any of these videos and step through it to count how many frames it takes for the plane to pass through it’s length in air, and then count again when the plane first contacts the building. You will find it is the same number of frames. The plane does not decelerate. According to Newton’s 2nd Law of Motion, F=ma. In this case F= mass of plane * acceleration of plane= mass of plane * 0 = 0. There is no force available to do the smashing. That is why we don’t see any crash physics happening and why these videos are fraudulent.

  3. OS  October 20, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Like I said, rat packs center was in this state.

  4. Tracy  October 20, 2010 at 4:40 am

    The bond relating to Durham Trust are held by V.K Durham, whose husband was involved with the covert agencies before he was killed by them, thinking he owned the trust rather than his wife. Her website is http://www.rumormillnews.com The website reports on current news, but she has extensive archives related to covert attempts to access the trust. She indicates the trust belongs to all Americans, not the greedy elite.

  5. eddy  October 19, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    a good synopsis here:


  6. eddy  October 19, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    In the free chapters and videos Dimitri doesn’t name the chief organizer of 911, but on a blog he says:

    So, you ask who was the chief organizer of 911?

    Actually, I have already mentioned it on my web site that I don’t want to reveal it online, otherwise, people will have less insensitive to buy my book

    (and I don’t have any income, except from the book, unfortunately, so it is just a matter of my survival).

    But it is OK to me – I will make an exception to this rule, if you really want to know it, but don’t want to buy the book…

    His name was Mike Harari* – a former Deputy Chief of the Mossad, a former friend of President Bush Senior, and a former deputy of General Noriega – the Dictator of Panama.

    *(Harari is now 82 or 83 years old – as of the year 2010)

  7. Interesting  October 19, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Interesting presentation.

  8. Jim Fetzer  October 19, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Nice post! The problem with the video is that the plane is flying faster than is aerodynamically possible for a 767 (at about 540 mph, which is its cruising speed at 35,000 feet but impossible at 700-1,000 feet, where the air is three times denser); it enters the building without damaging it at all as it enters (as though it were flying into a 110-story stick of butter); and it passes through its own length into the building in the same number of frames it passes through its own length in air (which means that the building provides no more resistance to its flight path than air). Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the first point. Newton’s laws of motion are sufficient to establish the second; and you can confirm for yourself the third. (See “New Proof of Video Fakery on 9/11”.)

    It appears that video fakery was used to insure it went off as planed. Pilots who tried to perform the feat of hitting a 208′ wide tower at more than 500 mph found it was extremely difficult and could not do it better than 1 time in 10. The question becomes how it was done, where the most promising alternatives are CGI (computer generated images), video compositing (especially by adding images to real-time images just before they are broadcast), or the use of some sophisticated kind of hologram (which John Lear, our nation’s most distinguished pilot, and Steffan Grossmann, who has a book on this event, both endorse). I interviewed Scott Forbes on “The Real Deal” recently and he said “the building swallowed the plane”, which suggests to me that the third explanation may be the correct one.

    For an overview of the evidence that the government has been lying to us, visit 911scholars.org and read “Why doubt 9/11?” in the upper-left hand corner, where I lay out 20 proofs that what we have been told is not true. Then scroll down the page to “Was 9/11 an ‘Inside Job’?” for my Buenos Aires Powerpoint. Or visit http://noliesradio.org/archives/21621/ for “Are Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan Justified by 9/11?”, from my London symposium. And stick around to hear Kevin Barrett address the moral and religious dimensions of arguments for the “war on terror” while Gilad Atzmon dismantled the political rhetoric used to support it. Where our Master of Ceremonies was Ken O’Keefe, the hero of the Freedom Flotilla! You won’t be disappointed.

  9. eddy  October 19, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Dimitri says there was a built in 30 minute delay from the time of pushing the switch to the actual demolition.
    This may explain the BBC building 7 fiasco, and the fire-chief being told that a perfectly stable building was about to come down, (how did they know unless they pushed the switch), who is ‘they’?

    “OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out”
    Fire chiefs Pete Ganci’s response is “Who the f–k told you that?” Seconds later, they hear the noise of the south tower as it collapses..”

    who sent the message to the fire chief?
    – (OEM)the mayor’s office of emergency management. I think it’s time to arrest Rudi

  10. smacko  October 19, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Tj Bronco says:
    October 18, 2010 at 12:15 am
    It’s funny Smacko causew I never said That!



    Dear Bronco, please note:


    Tj Bronco says:
    October 17, 2010 at 12:33 am
    I watched that, but in my mind Ritter stated, we really don’t know what went on. He did state that a further investigation is necessary, but insisted we really don’t know anything, from what I took from it. I don’t take away Scott ridders great work, but I still have many questions. He agrees that the original 911 commission report is Bogus, and full of anomelies.



    dear Bronco, I could not find where Ritter said: “we really don’t know anything” … if he said that, please help to locate where he said such?


  11. Penumbra  October 19, 2010 at 1:02 am

    correction: (2nd para) “…anywhere from 230 million dollars to upwards of 1 billion dollars in gold and silver bullion (of verifiable record)…”

  12. Penumbra  October 19, 2010 at 12:56 am

    There is info on those buildings via simple Google search, but they were not central to the day’s events, to my knowledge. Both were heavily damaged by falling and forcibly ejected debris from the towers but were completely demolished much later.

    The building not often mentioned that SHOULD have further investigation is WTC 4, under which was housed (arguably) anywhere from 230 million dollars to upwards of 1 billion (of verifiable record) which not only “belonged” to the Bank of Nova Scotia but also to a number of unnamed COMEX “clients”. No full accounting for the contents of the vaults has been conducted as far as I have read.

    Moreover, apparently the unaccounted for Gold stocks which went missing in the fog of the attacks have some apparent connection to 6.5 trillion in Gold supposedly handled or otherwise mediated via The Queen’s Wachovia Bank (Ontario, Canada) agent Durham Holding Trust which was allegedly used to completely pay off all US national debt via Debt Swap/Debt Conversion back in 2003 (to what parties I am unsure) but which was never so credited and has remained equally unaccounted for.

    I’ve only come across the Durham Trust references recently so I can’t say anything definitive beyond that. If there are any financial experts out there who could shed more light on the subject, I’d be grateful.

  13. Hummer  October 18, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    1997 is an important date, it’s opens a window. Organizational planning that required a support organization with infrastructure, an important window to correlate other activities.

  14. Paul  October 18, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    How come we never see anything on WTC 6, or 5 for that matter?

  15. Anonymous Smith  October 18, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Exactly! Why did his words go unheeded? I mean, seriously, if they would have done something about the Rothschilds back then we would not be in the mess we’re in now…a mess that we might not make it out of!

  16. Anonymous Smith  October 18, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Yes, you do, Equalizer…spread it far and wide.

  17. Tracy  October 18, 2010 at 9:38 am

    There’s a large treasure trove of information on JFK Jr. and Minot here.

  18. Joe  October 18, 2010 at 9:31 am

    The Nation article: Blackwater’s Black Ops

    Monsanto now owns Blackwater (or XE)

  19. Suzanne Borho  October 18, 2010 at 8:38 am

    I found that as well, Rex. I am very disappointed with Alex Jones and Jason Burmas for this very reason. The moment anyone even MENTIONS the possibility of there being no planes, they’ll cut you off and then spend 5 minutes ranting about how ridiculous and absurd the very idea is. All I want is the TRUTH, and I’m willing to consider all avenues to get there! Thanks for the great tips! A closed mind is an enslaved mind…

  20. Miller  October 17, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    I’ve never seen anyone enjoy the fruits of a tragedy quite like Giuliani does. The man hasn’t stopped smiling (a trait he was never known for as mayor) since 9/11 made him a rich celebrity. I’m sure a revealing tale would be told if his personal finances were ever traced. I would especially love to see the squeeze put on him, since like GW, he’s basically a coward who surrounds himself with strong, powerful people who will reward his obsequious desire to be one of them. The only thing more shameful than Giuliani getting knighted is when they knighted that lughead Kerik. If the bar is that low can it even be called an “honor” anymore?

  21. Penumbra  October 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    correction: (third para after opening line) “…and as such are highly conservative…” [scratch “both”].

  22. Penumbra  October 17, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    That’s a very good question.

    To be honest it’s not an aspect I had ever thought to look into. My hunch is that insurers rely heavily on good relations with central governments, especially with regard to regulatory affairs.

    To adopt a position challenging central government(s) who have colluded to produce the whitewash fed to the public, would be to place one’s firm in the cross hairs of some nasty government repercussions, no matter how compelling the evidence might be.

    Remember too that insurance companies are close kin to the banking system and as such are both highly conservative in maintaining the status quo of “the system” (corrupt as it is) through which they like their banking brethren profit enormously.

    That is my gut instinct on the primary motivations they might have to go with the “official conspiracy theory”. Deeper than that, you might want to investigate whether any or all of the WTC insurers are run by Jews or have vested interests in the military industrial complex or the “War on Terror” which was given birth through 911.

    If the latter can be substantiated then certainly the proceeds from “perpetual war” would far outweigh any amount paid to Silverstein.

  23. Penumbra  October 17, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    That woman, whoever she is, is a total whack job. Let’s stick to credible presentations and presenters shall we?

  24. eddy  October 17, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    CNN’s Dylan Reynolds

    LONDON, England — When Rudolph Giuliani received his honorary knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II on Wednesday, he joined an exclusive club with a membership dating back to ancient Rome.

    Giuliani received the award in recognition for his work following the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.

    Honorary knighthoods are awarded by the queen, on the advice of the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, to those who have made an important contribution to relations between their country and Britain.

    end quote

    Eddy asks:
    What does 911 or the Mayor of New York have to do with Britain? Rudi, please explain the connection.
    Also, why did you incinerate so many firefighters? Dead men tell no tales


  25. eddy  October 17, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    In addition to this book, you may want also download another book – about
    Chernobyl versus Manhattan comparison. This one can be downloaded from here:


    or from here:


    or from here:


    You may want also to download a video presentation by Dimitri Khalezov
    (26 parts 10 minutes each).

    You can always find latest download links to it here:


    You may find some additional download links to certain interesting materials
    on the above web site as well.

  26. eddy  October 17, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    America gets more like USSR every day, ask Dimitri

  27. Kate  October 17, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    They were notified via Odigo Communications, an Israeli company. (The Five Dancing Israelis)


  28. Kate  October 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Vaccines have been used for a long time in third world countries (pushed by the U.S) for depopulation. Notice how they RUSHED to Haiti to innoculate everyone. Rockefeller, Kissinger (and now Bill Gates) are pushing vaccines in the U.S. now for population control. This year’s 2010-11 flu shot “contains” H1N1, but nobody tells you that. Flu shots are being HYPED everywhere – radio, TV, state health dept ads, CDC!
    MMR is especially dangerous for children, and may lead to autism. (we ALL had measles & mumps when we were young and nobody died.) A set of 9 mo. old twins were given this shot recently and both died immediately. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/13/twins-die-minutes-after-measles-vaccination.aspx
    The HPV Gardasil shot is killing and maiming teenage girls and young women. Healthy soldiers have been given shots that were not entered into their shot records and died the following day.
    Research indicates Gulf War Syndrome was caused by the anthrax shot.

    Please do not innoculate your children before watching youtubes by Drs. Mercola, Blaylock, Leonard Horowitz, and many others. I GET “NO” SHOTS! Americans are being targeted for a compromised immune systems and early “natural” death by these vaccines and the poisons in our food, water, and air via chemtrails. THEY DON’T WANT TO PAY US SOCIAL SECURITY, but it’s OK to make SSI payments to illegals who didn’t contribute a dime.

  29. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    “Evidence Refutes the Official 911 Investigation the Scientific Forensic Facts”


  30. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Very interesting post Brian, thanks.

  31. OS  October 17, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    What other interest would want this, “led the boycott of Ford Motor Company”. Higher powers were involved. Read above link.

  32. OS  October 17, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Think about what I stated earlier, the “center” versus the first target. Time to finish, thinks are getting to hot. Good luck.

  33. OS  October 17, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    You should research company called “Jeppesen”. No more to say, just do some research. Also reference auto controlled flight in Tibet 2003. No more to say here.

  34. OS  October 17, 2010 at 2:57 pm


    I did not say P. family business was financing the company, but had a big vested interest. Of course a front was required, but earlier years were different. And group leading during this time were powerful Republicans, powerful enough to make AG the Governor regardless she was Democrat (There’s reason for pushing AG to Governor, called co-operation). I understand some BW people are veterans, but they also have “bad” operatives as well, like former leadership. Amway was started in Michigan, and understand family relations in this state. Also know BW was operating in Michigan before NC, known fact. I would like to say more, but can not.

    E.P. family in auto industry with specific relations, and know rat packs center was in this state. E.P. was player needed by others in the state, and he knows me. If you know him, ask him who lived in Oxford MI and “his” family friend in Auburn Hills near one of Madonna’s homes. I put Madonna’s home so he remembers the person and connection. And yes next to the singers home.


  35. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    “Let Me Know When You See Fire”, Narrated by: Major Reginald Shinn, USAF (Ret).


  36. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I’ll bet that gold’s sitting behind that “hidden wall” at Dimona…wager anyone?

  37. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Ken, I’m not holding my breath for that view.

  38. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    I get it.

  39. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Benjamin Franklin was specific…

  40. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Where is Jesse Ventura?

    On his cable TV show he interviewed a woman doctor who discussed the ulterior motives behind vacines…something Eustace Mullins wrote about years ago in, “Murder By Injection”.

    The doctor used the word “culling”…

    Look up the words: cull, cully…not far away, the word cult.

  41. Brian  October 17, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    There are some powerful Israelis that don’t want the truth to come out about the Rabin assassination.

  42. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:41 pm


    google soap made from human corpses…

    the ultimate propaganda…life, stranger than fiction.

  43. Brian  October 17, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Of PARTICULAR note in all this is that one of the PRIME MOTIVATORS and
    architects of the spin-doctored house of cards erected after Kennedy’s
    plane “went missing”–the completely fabricated version of reality which
    claims Kennedy was a seriously under-trained pilot with feeble flying
    skills and yadayadayada–is hack writer and world-class rumor-monger
    DAVID HEYMANN, author of several “unauthorized’ and totally non-credible
    “biographies” about the Kennedys: he is known to be strongly disliked by
    some members of the clan.

    Heymann is a former MOSSAD AGENT.

    http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19586.html

  44. Brian  October 17, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    This article is by Israeli researcher/investigator/author Barry Chamish:

    So now what do we do about the information coming out on the explosion of JFK Jr.’s plane? The day it happened I wrote that JFK Jr. was doing more than any other American media figure to get to the bottom of the Rabin assassination truth. I reminded readers that his magazine George ran a 13 page expose of the Shabak’s involvement in the assassination. I suggested that this was a brave but risky stand. Then came the tidal wave of data. The FBI Preliminary Report confirming the bomb on the plane and noting the type of explosive was used by certain foreign intelligence services. This was followed by Catherine Crier of Fox TV’s The Crier Report, announcing that JFK Jr. was about to meet high ranking Mossad officers to get the full story on the Rabin assassination. Then the German newspaper, Franfurter Allgemaine Zeitung, reported that Kennedy had met with the deputy chief of the Mossad, Amiram Levine to get the full story on the Rabin assassination two days before his plane went down. Then Maariv ran an interview with JFK’s chauffeur, who happens to be Israeli. Then people started noting that Ehud Barak was in Washington at the time of Kennedy’s finale in life. And I was not alone in my investigation: WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF August 27 1999 Copyright Joel M. Skousen.
    Quotations with attribution permitted.

    Evidence continues to mount that JFK jr. and passengers were
    killed by an altitude triggered bomb planted in the tail section of the
    Here is the evidence: Kennedy*s sister in law’s ( Lauren
    Bessette ) suitcase was found miles out in the ocean, away from the crash
    site. Lawyer Victor Pribanic was on the shore fishing and heard the
    explosion from the same location and time frame where the plane went
    down. The wreckage of the plane was recovered under *national security*
    conditions and no reporters were allowed to see or photograph it. The
    wreckage was loaded on to sealed containers and taken away. The FAA report
    indicated the recovered engine was fully functional. The presumed bad
    weather that caused Kennedy to spiral into the water was some 8 miles
    away from the crash site at that time, so the report of bad weather was
    part of the cover-up. Soon after, a correspondent wrote me:

    A reporter for The Vineyard Gazette who was on the island, was quoted as having seen the plane come down to land, and to have seen a flash on the plane. Next thing the plane went out of control and crashed into the sea below.


  45. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    I sure hope those were “road apples” in that pie.

  46. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:16 pm


    Didn’t an assassinated President’s son die in a private-plane crash…?

    Wasn’t that (gorgeous) young man thinking of running for the Senate seat in New York?

  47. smacko  October 17, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Tj Bronco says:
    October 17, 2010 at 12:33 am
    I watched that, but in my mind Ritter stated, we really don’t know what went on. He did state that a further investigation is necessary, but insisted we really don’t know anything, from what I took from it. I don’t take away Scott ridders great work, but I still have many questions. He agrees that the original 911 commission report is Bogus, and full of anomelies.
    dear Bronco, I could not find where Ritter said: “we really don’t know anything” … if he said that, please help to locate where he said such?
    – regarding ‘knowing’ the answer to the question: WhoDid911?:
    WE don’t ‘know’ that Yet. Also, to state that WE ‘know’, while demanding we need a new investigation / Due Process, because WE need to ‘KNOW’, while stating WE already ‘know’ is, well, doublespeak/nonsense undermining our position that ‘WE need to know’ / need a new investigation.
    Such cognitive-dissonance nonsense Literally corrupts/undermines the Accountable Due Process WE are supposedly seeking (when we are not ‘already knowing’ what we otherwise claim WE need to ‘know’ 😉
    Such doublespeak marginalizes us as kooky corruption, and Literally breaks our otherwise stalwart unassailable power position:
    ‘Who Did 9/11?’ We Need To Know!

    Bowman stays on point:

    Dear Mr. Fetzer, I hope this helps to clarify…


    consider: What would/will Constitute “KNOWING’ regarding ‘WhoDid911?’
    consider ‘Due Process’ & ‘Official Knowing/Verdict’ regading ‘WhoDid911’

  48. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Redefines SAYANIM.

  49. Equalizer  October 17, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    They were notified by cell-phone…someone fill in the blank here with the name of the company/system…whatever.

  50. Ken Rechtstein  October 17, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Penumbra, a Q has been bothering me ever since I started doubting that Muslims-Arabs had the capacity to plan-coordinate-execute from a cave in Bora Bora such a complex MILITARY action “fooling” the CIA-FBI-MOSSAD-CENTCOM-NORAD; the DSGT-BDN-MI6-ISI… It’s: ‘WITH SO MANY ACCABLANT PROOFS OF FOOL PLAY, HOW COME THAT THE INSURANCE Cie OF WTC, UNTIL NOW DID NOT ASK FOR AN IN DEPENDENT INESTIGATION OF LARRY “SCAM-ARSONSTEIN”? IMHO the board of Directors of that insurance cie’s on the take-complicit 2 murder

  51. Ron Paul 2012  October 17, 2010 at 11:57 am


    This also explains why General Jim Jones left his position so abruptly 2 days after he came back from a conference in Russia where he stated that destroying the Opium production was a top priority.

  52. Anonymous Smith  October 17, 2010 at 11:25 am

    “When Will the Crimes End? When we address the root cause I guess: Jewish bansksters.”

    Exactly right, AJ…no other group demands more scrutiny than the Banksters! They are THE main culprits behind most of the ills of this world…yet most people don’t even mention them most in passing…let alone give them a second look. There are a few of us, though, who understand that the Jewish Banksters in the City of London are the Supreme Overlords of the New World Order and that they seek nothing less than total world domination!

    So many bloggers out there in the bloggosphere are knowingly protecting the Banksters…that’s why it seems like we can’t get through to them. That’s also why we can’t move forward…they are deliberately holding us back!

    Thanks for your efforts, AJ…at least there are a few of us who get it.

  53. Fayyaz Shah  October 17, 2010 at 11:11 am

    There is an urgent need for a World Commission to investigate the recent mega incidents that has changed the fate of the Free World. This may lead to a New and effective United Nations, the current set up cannot organize a you-know-what in a Brothel and to top it they even over charge for jobs not done. We Primates here are wondering why sensible Nations are not able to come up with a New Setup specially in this digitally connected World. Or are we going to let Some People fool the rest of the World forever?

  54. Joe  October 17, 2010 at 10:05 am

    1 hr. 21 min

    Documentary: National Security Alert-The Pentagon Attack
    by Citizen Investigation Team

    “The very notion that the government would manipulate their own data is alarming enough. However, there would be a second implication that is much more disturbing, yet equally unavoidable. That implication is this: If the plane did not fly where the physical damage and the government-supplied data says it did in the final seconds before the explosion of the Pentagon, it did not hit the building.”
    “In 2006 Citizen Investigation Team launched an independent investigation into the act of terrorism which took place at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. This exhaustive three-year inquest involved multiple trips to the scene of the crime in Arlington, Virginia, close scrutiny of all official and unofficial data related to the event, and, most importantly, first-person interviews with dozens of eyewitnesses, many of which were conducted and filmed in the exact locations from which they witnessed the plane that allegedly struck the building that day.
    Be forewarned: Our findings are extraordinarily shocking and frightening. They are also deadly serious, and deserving of your immediate attention. This is not about a conspiracy theory or any theory at all. This is about independent, verifiable evidence which unfortunately happens to conclusively establish as a historical fact that the violence which took place in Arlington that day was not the result of a surprise attack by suicide hijackers, but rather a false flag “black operation” involving a carefully planned and skillfully executed deception. (Except from main website)”
    For more info: http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com

  55. Joe  October 17, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Over 4,000 Jews did not show up for work at the WTC on 9/11. And Rudy Juliani was warned to stay out of the building.

  56. Michael J Volz  October 17, 2010 at 9:30 am

    TJ, Larry originally said he was against uncivil behavior. Ask Gordon why he “likes” Dick.erstein so much?


  57. Gordon Duff  October 17, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Blackwater is run by a soap manufacturer. it is Amway, not Prinz Automotive.
    Blackwater is the military arm of the Republican Party…political “dirty tricks” or worse.

  58. Joe  October 17, 2010 at 8:33 am

    There’s always a little truth in the propaganda


  59. Ken Rechtstein  October 17, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Remember that the other “Nero-W.Bush” brother, Zeb was part of the PNAC-GANG that said it needed “a Pearl Harbor like incident”, in order to implement the necessary measures to secure US world domination (actually ISRAEL’s, w. US Army putting the corpses-taxpayers footing the bills)… The 9/11 murderous-high treason false flag was fostered by Wolfowitz-Perle-Feith-Libby-Zakheim-Kristol, all Jews, during the Lewinsky-B.Clinton occupation-sharing of the Oval roosting Nest.

  60. Ken Rechtstein  October 17, 2010 at 7:55 am

    Good point Lèse Majesté!. Another telltale-proof of how Dual citizens-ZionTalmudicAgents (J.Pollard) are brought together with Zio-ASSETS-TRAITORS (H.R.Clinton) and groomed over the years to get top clearance to spy or be paid inhouse escort, at the service of the Rogue State of Israel-against the country that gave them citizenship and the opportunity to make a decent living.

  61. 911kerosene  October 17, 2010 at 6:56 am

    For anyone interested:

    The book of Dimitri Khalezov and his videos are available here:


    Direct download links, and also links to rapidshare and depositfiles

    The video-DVD with his video prohibited on YouTube is available for download there too. Along with genuine 9/11 news reports by FOX and also by Russian NTV how an F-16 from US National Air Guard shot down the 4th passenger plane.

  62. Lese Majeste  October 17, 2010 at 5:53 am

    Not HRM Hillary? Just because she’s a money-grubbing, power hungry witch?

    HRM Hillary has ESP, as shown by her time in the White House when she was able to plunk down a thousand dollars on some cattle futures and reaped a 100K reward a few days later.

    P.S. When HRM Hillary was at the Rose Law Firm in Arkansas, one of her associates there was mega-spy Jonathan Pollard.

    Such a small world, huh?

  63. Ken Rechtstein  October 17, 2010 at 5:44 am

    I totally agree with you Smith. In old Europe, the Scandinavian countries were a model of advanced social-industrial development, with almost no crime, untill the drugs started pouring in. The reason is that the Zion Talmudic Mafia, standing behind the NWO does not want the Scandinavian Model to be a living example that a wellfare state and high educational-living strandard are possible on this earth, provided that the Zion Talmudic Mafia is kept away without foothold in the country as it used to be there.

  64. Franz  October 17, 2010 at 5:30 am


    But then his hiding was a ruse.

    G.W.Bush just might be the most evil, or the most controlled, of all the US presidents.

    FORTUNATE SON was the big test of the USA. Face it, we flunked.

  65. Joseph  October 17, 2010 at 4:35 am

    Great feedback by a lot of knowledgeable people. Planes were flown by remote control:

    The technology to do this has been around for quite a while. As with all the secrets that can be taken and used against the people, if you do not know of your government’s capabilities, you can be deceived. This includes UFOs, beam weapons, mind zapping technology, etc., etc. 9/11 REVELATIONS, Complete Remote Control of Airliners Before 9-11, by Dick Eastman, July 6, 2009. UNCENSORED magazine, September-December 2009. [Quote:] Looks like Raytheon was in: • Automated Precision Satellite Guidance Of 9/11 Type Aircraft Largely Possible Just Before
    Attacks • United Airlines Boeing Aircraft, Along With UPS And NASA 757s And 767s Utilized During Pre-9/11 GPS Tests:

    • Raytheon/FAA Controlled GPS Satellite Navigation Array Activated 13 Months Before 9/11 Attacks

    • October, 2001, Pilot Override System Envisioned Use Of Satellite Auto-Navigation Concept And Communications Termination

    Explosives were used to take those buildings down:

    “It is called forethought; the explosive charges were installed when the buildings were first constructed. This also means that many more buildings, bridges and dams, etc., are sitting, waiting to be blown up or brought down at the push of a button”

    You all know who else has that list but the mossad and its puppet cia.

    Some info links for your review beside the “loose change” video from youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM (Planned event from long time ago)

    http://tinyurl.com/yg9hgce (Nano Thermite)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XctzZ4eb2O0&feature=player_embedded# (Nano Thermite)


  66. OS  October 17, 2010 at 1:13 am

    We are going about this in the wrong way, because you can’t infiltrate the core unless you fragment the infrastructure of organized operation. There’s weakness that can be exposed, and domino effect, too many involved to infiltrate core and requires other methods. They will further expose themselves by creating misinformation and propaganda when getting closer.

    Ideology can be misleading as well. It’s like suggesting there’s a pond and something’s occurring in water, but the fish are not visible, only the pond. There’s fish in this pond, and with correct bait can be exposed and captured. As stated before, former CEO Black Water, “An heir to Michigan Auto Parts Fortune”, think for one moment, from auto parts to Special Operations? Started in 1997 (preplanned in Michigan), and special contract work for what auto and truck corporation? And remember, some large corporations have many divisions consisting of other corporations, and special relations with oil companies. Some have divisions and create bizarre technologies, so what are they thinking? When you investigate corporations and their divisions, always make note what their producing in the smaller companies they own. One was in near bankruptcy in the late 1990’s about the time Black Water was started in Michigan before NC.

    An example of some information, that’s lacking in critical information? They did not mention one big corporation for some reason, because of bailout last year? The real bailout will exceed $100 billion for this one in Michigan, but maybe promised prior to the bailout program. Are these bailouts with payoffs, you decide and make note of executives quickly bailing out of the corporation as well. And also the companies created during this time, and quickly sold thereafter, before next administration. The X-Companies that disappear when sold to offshore companies.

    Here’s another interesting link, phosphorus and fire retardant materials are of big interest to ICL.

  67. Lawrence A Dickerson  October 17, 2010 at 12:57 am

    The reason you thought the site was shut down was the fact that you included a bracket at the end of the address as shown below.Perhaps this is one of bronco’s facts that he is grabbing from his ass.I think he drank too many Buds while watching ball today.

    Oops! Internet Explorer could not find http://www.911blogger.com)
    Did you mean: http://www.­911blogger.­com

  68. Lawrence A Dickerson  October 17, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Here I is you half ass-ed whelp of a genius IP shy a hundred.You been rode hard up there on Brokeback Mountain.It’s time you wear panties under them thar chaps.If you need an address,ask Gordon and he can provide you a Google map,a sack lunch and a 2 dollar bill.How far can you spit your teeth.

    Sheesh I can act like an ass too but I can back it up as well.

  69. ben  October 16, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    TV Debunkers/shills will often reply, when someone they are interviewing suggests 911 was staged, with something like this: “how can you say that? I saw the planes hit. Are you telling me it didn’t happen?!” They start with the presumption that if you say 911 was staged that what you’re implying is that no planes hit the buildings at all… they default to the implication that no matter what you say, what you really mean is absurd and that they don’t need to go there and that anyone watching need not look at this matter any closer.

    Watch in this new clip how Jessie Ventura gets attacked in exactly the same manner: The interviewer keeps asserting that Ventura is suggesting that he believes there were no planes, even though Ventura goes nowhere near suggesting anything of the kind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40EhbLeZMs&feature=player_embedded

  70. Penumbra  October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    What precisely is the connection between your article and the question it appeared you were going to answer?

  71. REY  October 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm


  72. Rex Carlson  October 16, 2010 at 10:46 pm



    Very early into my personal 911 research, I thought the “no planes” theory had a great deal merit. I wanted to know more and discuss it more.

    What I found, and is still the case on many, if not most, 911 truth blogs, is that if you even mention “no planes” you’re shut up, shut down, or shut out. (example: http://www.911blogger.com)

    Another subject that’s taboo is any discussion related to Israel’s involvement in 911. Also rejected is any mention of the Pentagon flyover. (see http://www.thepentacon.com)

    All of these topics are considered to be disinformation efforts.

    Anyway, here are some of the interesting “no plane” videos I”ve found along the way. You can decide for yourself.

    “SEPTEMBER CLUES” 2008 1:31

    “911 Taboo No Plane Theory” GREAT!!
    (Original has been removed; what a surprise.) Direct downloads and Torrents are available via google.
    “Interview with Project Camelot pilot John Lear” :: believes “no planes”

    “Continuous Pieces – 9/11” By Jeffrey Hill 2009 2:24
    No planes…

    “911 AMATEUR” All parts are on YouTube The last part has “no planes.”

    Here’s Part1 to get you started:

    browse through all of these short videos by ozzybanoswald

    9/11 Fake (3rd): Eye Witness or Not? pt.1/3 GREAT!
    (Original has been removed; what a surprise.) Google around for fake witnesses

  73. Rita  October 16, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    I think Hillary might have something to do with the JFK Jr. thing. She had lunch with him the week prior and warned him not to run for the NY Senate. He intended to do just that.

  74. Anonymous Smith  October 16, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Wolf, you wrote “It may very well start with a stock market crash in the near future.”

    It will start with the financial collapse, just like you said, then it will very rapidly turn into a mass starvation scenario…all preplanned. Then a bloody Civil War…who knows what else? Who would care after that?

    Gunna be kinda tough to fight the NWO armies when we’re starving to death!

  75. Grey  October 16, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Well, I haven’t really checked in to it, but there are some theories of that something did hit the towers, but there may be holograms involved in the famous videos..doesn’t sound logical, since it’s a known fact the facilities were shut down and evacuated 3 or four times in the weeks leading up to 9/11 with ‘security upgrades’ and such vague reasons…. obviously planting explosive, so without an actual plane to attract (or distract) attention to the numerous bombs going off, and these are CLEARLY shown in many videos, it’s as plain as day..
    What about building 7? nothing hit it, had a couple of small fires, yet implodes as well..

    Anyone here thinking the plane that ‘crashed’ was a screw up by an overzealous (or genuinely patriotic) fighter pilot who shot it down?
    I think that was the plane destined for building 7, so when it was shot downs, they couldn’t very well leave the building standing with bombs all through it waiting for firefighters to find… along with Silverman making 4 billion on the deal and admitted on video to ‘pulling’ building 7..

    And the plane in PA was shot down, Freudian slips can be most revealing, check this one where Rumsfeld lets it slip that the plane was indeed shot down..
    Notice he didn’t even try to correct himself with veering so far from the official story…
    Even professional liars can’t keep them straight ALL the time ;o)

  76. wolf  October 16, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    That’s what I’m afraid of too, Anon. I believe the final pieces are being put into place on the world stage and when they are unleashed the sum total will be a knock-out punch…like a thief in the night. It may very well start with a stock market crash in the near future.

    Sadly, we won’t be able to compare notes like this anymore, since free speech on the internet will be toast. Then again, who’s gonna have time to surf the net when the SHTF…we’ll all be in survival mode.

  77. Rehmat  October 16, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Last month Iranian President Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suggested that a United Nations’ independent commission be set-up to clear the fog around the tragic events on September 11, 2010 (watch video below). He was called a ‘lunatic’ by the Zionist poodles from A to Z. Now, the CNN, one of Israel’s largest Hasbara (propaganda) outlet and new owner of Farsi 1, has blown some of the fog by calling 9/11 official story a “Whitewash” and that the 9/11 Commissioners staged a cover-up. (watch the video below).

    One wonder why Dr. Ahmadinejad’s statement pulled the rug under the feet of so many leaders of the so-called “civilized world”? Is it their guilty conscience as they show whenever someone challenges the Zionist narrative of the Holocausy? I mean, Ahmadinejad is not the first political leader who has questioned the 9/11 official story. Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez and Itlay’s former President Francesco Cossiga had said earlier that 9/11 was carried out by CIA and the Israeli Mossad.

    The truth of the matter is that both Venezuela and Itlay don’t provide moral or financial support to Islamic Resistant groups (Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hizbullah) as does Islamic Iran. Futhermore, none of those two countries are located in the Middle East and thus, they don’t threaten Israel being a regional bully.

    Ahmadinejad’s statement, however, became a Lucifer-sent opportunity for Israel to blackmail Ben Obama administration. Since then, Hillary Clinton has forgotten his push on Benji Netanyahu to stop new illegal Jewish settlement and has been singing like a canary against the Islamic Republic. Benji Netanyahu, on Monday, demanded that he will defer futher new Jewish settlements in the West Bank if the Palestinian recognize Israel as a ‘Jewish State’. Ironically, the great majority of the Zionist leaders, inside and outside Israel’ are committed atheists.


  78. smacko  October 16, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    beware of trap/misdirection – ‘Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory/Story Position’ = “you have to convince yourselves/others by trying to prove us wrong”

    — NO, We Don’t have to prove ‘The Official 9-11 Conspiracy Theory/Story’ Wrong.

    We don’t have to ‘substantiate’ ‘their story/fiction’ by trying to prove an invisible pink elephant is Not in the corner of the room

    ‘The Official 9-11 Conspiracy Theory/Story’ is Swiss Cheese Fiction

    We need to stop chasing fiction & dancing with obstructionists, so to instead better embrace the Accountability we seek to resolve the salient 911 issue/question:

    ‘pink elephants’ / ‘no planes’ / ‘fake videos’ – Misdirection PsyOp

    Who Did 9/11? We Need To Know!

  79. Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    I vote for anarchy!!

  80. Equalizer  October 16, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Ron, thanks for posting this!

  81. Franz  October 16, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Much to ponder Gordon Duff, thank you.

    My serious 911 bellyache starts with the problem of George W. Bush. He was in the air what seemed a LONG time, after he was pulled from reading MY PET GOAT. George crisscrossing the country looking for a hole in the ground, for my money, was the real story of 911. The cowardly president. But this now has problems.

    If the 911 attacks were carried on with complicity from the US gov, and I have no doubt this can of worms will be proven and Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz ETC will be indicted (perhaps post-mortem)… but then WHY was George W on the run at all? A simple get-out-of-Dodge order from his advisers would keep him safe in the air I think. Why the run and hide?

    His behavior seemed more patsy than perp. This just eats at some of us.

    Meanwhile, Dimitri Khalezov’s book sounds like a winner and I’m going to start my hunt for it right NOW.

  82. Patrick Sullivan  October 16, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Dan asked:

    “Has anyone put together a scenario describing how demolitions experts brought the charges into the buildings and what was involved in physically placing the charges?”

    Cresskill, New Jersey is a few miles from Manhattan, New York, along the river.

    Cresskill was the home of Camp Merritt, the major debarkation point for more than a million American troops being sent abroad to fight in World War I.

    As of 2008, the Mayor of the Borough of Cresskill is Benedict Romeo (R, term ends December 31, 2011). Members of the Cresskill Borough Council are W. Keith Brassel (R, 2010), John Brennan (R, 2010), James Cleary (R, 2008), John McCann (R, 2008), Kathy Savas (R, 2009) and Thomas W. Thomasma (R, 2009).[2][16]

    The Governor of New Jersey is Chris Christie (R, Mendham)

    New Jersey is represented in the United States Senate by Frank Lautenberg (D, Cliffside Park) and Bob Menendez (D, Hoboken).

    October 6, 2010
    CRESSKILL — President Barack Obama has arrived in Cresskill.

    Marine One touched down at 5:50 p.m. on a soccer field across from the town’s firehouse, where volunteer firemen waited and watched, dressed in full gear.

    At least 100 onlookers gathered nearby.

    Andrea Garncarz stood with her 7-year-old son, Zac, who had a hand-drawn sign welcoming Obama to New Jersey, decorated with two American flags.

    “It’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a child,” said Andrea Garncarz, of Edgewater, a real estate agent in Cresskill.

    Ten minutes after landing, Obama’s motorcade headed to a fundraiser dinner for the Democratic National Committee on the other side of this 2-square-mile town, in a wealthy development called Tammy Brook. The dinner is at the home of Michael Kempner, CEO of MWW Group, an East Rutherford-based public relations and lobbying firm. The invitation said the guest list is limited to 50, at $30,400 a plate.

    An official from the DNC said the dinner is expected to raise $1 million.

    The guest list has not been released.

    Skyler Greenwald, 16, lives around the corner from Kempner and wandered by the house with two friends this afternoon. He said it was exciting to have the president in his neighborhood, but he didn’t expect to see him and wasn’t sure if any other neighborhood residents would attend the dinner.

    “I don’t know if I know anyone who’s going,” he said.


  83. Michael J Volz  October 16, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    The outer columns were steel but had a decorative aluminum outer facing.


  84. Penumbra  October 16, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    I can’t tell you who placed the charges, doubtful anyone but those with the inside knowledge could name them (likely a combination of US and Israeli demolitions experts).

    As for sources, this is something that has been pointed out in much of the independent research conducted over the years. I first recall seeing mention of it as early as 2004. There’s a You Tube video which goes into this and other aspects regarding the Towers, the activities conducted therein and the background of the financial white elephants which they were for the Port Authority and later Silverstein.


    Search for WTC power downs. I suspect some rigging was done as far back as 1993 in the aftermath of the earlier bombing false flag. This last episode might have been final checks and additional rigging of cutting charges floor by floor. The principal support column charges (nukes?) were likely installed much earlier.

  85. Lese Majeste  October 16, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Actually, it was closer to 4 trillion ‘missing.’

    The ones doing the original audit ran out of the money alloted to invvestigate the stolen cash and had to shut down.

    There’s a PDF file out there that will verify this, which I had on my hard drive, until it crashed and I couldn’t recover that info.

  86. Lese Majeste  October 16, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Check out the photos taken on 9/11 by photojournalist Bill Biggart. He was killed during the event, and his camera smashed, but the flash card survived and there are some truly amazing photos.

    Especially the ones showing 12′ steel beams being shot thru the air like a cannon ball.

    Photographer Chip East was staring intensely at his laptop screen.</b<

    It was two weeks after two jetliners had plowed into the towers of the World Trade Center. His good friend, photojournalist Bill Biggart’s body had been recovered from the rubble. His personal effects, including his cameras had been released by authorities to his widow, Wendy.

    Biggart. a photographer, who had worked for an alternative New York picture agency, had been carrying three cameras with him, when he left his home in Manhattan that sparkling Tuesday morning, and started walking south towards the plumes of smoke. There were two Canon EOS1s film cameras. He was also carrying his Canon D30 digital camera. For Biggart, mastering the new techniques of digital photography had been a break-through.

    When Chip East was handed the bag containing Biggart’s gear by his widow, Wendy, he was convinced that no pictures had survived. The avalanche of falling debris had blown off the backs of the two film cameras. There were several rolls of film in Biggart’s bag; however, the lids of the film canisters had been peeled back, allowing light to fall into the cassettes. Finally, East turned his attention to the digital camera. It was covered by ash. The lens had been sheared off at the flange. But when he opened the chamber that held the compact flash card, it was pristine.


  87. Anonymous Smith  October 16, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I didn’t know that about the Chinese loan thing!

    Thank you, Rita!

  88. Anonymous Smith  October 16, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Gordon Duff wrote “No police state in history is guilty of more.”

    You got that right, Gordon! But, just you wait, they haven’t even begun to get down yet…soon (much sooner than most people have the courage to accept) they will turn on the assembly line and they will mass produce atrocities, one right after the other!

  89. Chaplain Mary Murphy  October 16, 2010 at 3:19 pm

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    WHERE ARE THE CHAPLAINS TO SPEAK FOR OUR G-D; all of the Wounded Warriors Incarcerated who became addicted to drugs; returned without any of the needed alternative Veterans Villages we are designing.
    The War Widows
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  90. P.R. Smith  October 16, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    coulda been done with holograms of the planes. that`s what everyone saw.

  91. Dan  October 16, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Thanks. Incredible. I hadn’t heard this. Can you provide the source of this information? Has anyone put together a scenario describing how demolitions experts brought the charges into the buildings and what was involved in physically placing the charges?

  92. Dan  October 16, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    A livestock plague or virulent crop disease will work just fine. I believe the nation’ beef supply is only a few days, and a plague killing off beef cattle and dairy cows would be catastrophic, without any false-flag attacks on cities. A biological crop attack involving rust fungi, for example, destroying our wheat, corn, or soybean crops, would likewise turn this nation into a third-world nightmare in short order, setting off food riots and massive government repression. I wish I’d seen the show on Plum Island. There are those working in the USDA, straightforward patriotic Americans, whose interest and work is preventing such events, but they’re so far removed from the centers of power that their work need only be monitored to ensure that there is no livestock inoculation or fungicide capable of stopping an attack in the offing. There’s also the bill before the Senate, with a version already passed in the House, authorizing the FDA to declare a “food emergency” and giving it total control over the production, processing, transportation, and sale of food in the United States. The smoking gun here is that the bill provides that the Gestapo-like DHS will handle enforcement. There’s no reason to resort to another 9/11 when a more catastrophic event, or series of agricultural attacks, can accomplish so much more, wierd as it may seem at first.

  93. Brian  October 16, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Oops! It seems that Peter Myers comments were not based on Dimitri’s book but similar comments from Dimitri.

  94. Brian  October 16, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    Refutation – Dimitri Khalezov’s Mini-Nukes theory

    Peter Myers, April 14, 2010

    Dimitri Khalezov, a former officer of Soviet nuclear intelligence, claims that mini-nukes were used to blow up WTC 1, 2, and 7.

    He says this is the only explanation of how the debris from 9/11 remained hot for months.

    The basis of his thinking is the Peaceful Nuclear Explosives Treaty, which allowed the US and USSR to use underground nuclear explosives, each up to 150 kilotons (kt), to make dams, tunnels, cavities (eg to store gas) etc. The Soviet Union did use use explosions.

    He says that such underground explosions were quite different from the above-ground kind at Hiroshima.

    He claims that Soviet intelligence had word that US authorities only approved the building of the WTC on condition that a demolition plan be built in to the design.

    He argues that the US Government was not the perpetrator of 9/11, but the victim – a victim who then covered up the act.

    He denies that planes hit the WTC, alleging that the media faked the footage.

    He says that the Pentagon was hit, not by a plane, but by a stolen Soviet nuclear missile – which failed to explode. When US authorities found this, they jumped to the conclusion (assuming that planes had hit WTC 1 & 2) that these planes had also carried Soviet nuclear missiles, which could explode and destroy New York. To prevent this, he says, the US Government decided to activate the demolition plan.

    Khalezov says that the basments of the WTC buildings were 27 metres deep, at which depth the foundations anchored the buildings to the rock beneath. He claims that secret passages, bearing mini-railways, were another 50 metres deeper (ie 77 metres below ground level), and that a bomb was moved into place beneath each building and detonated on 9/11.

    One problem is that the Pentagon was only hit at 9.37am, whereas the first tower fell at 9.59am – allowing only 22 minutes for an assessment of the situation (finding the missile, identifying it as carrying a nuclear warhead – which did not explode), a decision to be made to use mini-nukes, and the railway actived.

    This, of course, is ridiculous. What more need be said? But the author has a 3-hour video interview out – in 26 segments, which has gained fans already – and a book is due soon, in which, he says, he will name the perpetrators.

    Contra his argument, there were no mini-nukes in the mid 1960s, when the WTC was built, so a plan for their use could not have been contemplated. Further, controlled demolitions were in their infancy, and none had been contemplated on such a scale.

    Another problem is that use of a mini-nuke would have risked fracturing the “bathtub”, which kept river water out of the basement. Wikipedia has this on it:


    World Trade Center Site

    On September 22, 2001, a preliminary cleanup plan for the World Trade Center site was delivered by Controlled Demolition, Inc. in which Mark Loizeaux, president of CDI, emphasized the importance of protecting”the bathtub”) which kept the Hudson River from flooding the WTC’s basement.[7]


    I have not read the book yet, but if the statements about the book by Peter Myers are accurate then to me the book makes some ridiculous statements especially about the Pentagon.

    This is one of my favorite hilarious paragraphs:

    He says that the Pentagon was hit, not by a plane, but by a stolen Soviet nuclear missile – which failed to explode. When US authorities found this, they jumped to the conclusion (assuming that planes had hit WTC 1 & 2) that these planes had also carried Soviet nuclear missiles, which could explode and destroy New York. To prevent this, he says, the US Government decided to activate the demolition plan.

    Brian: If it’s an accurate description of part of the book then I have to wonder if Victor had too many martinis or he enjoys putting out propaganda. Yes, I should read the book.

    BTW, it’s hilarious that some people don’t think planes hit the twin towers.

  95. tom  October 16, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Dimitri Khalezov’s website:
    See also a recent interview to him:

  96. AJHenry  October 16, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    When Will the Crimes End? When we address the root cause I guess: Jewish bansksters.

    “The Zionists and their co-religionists RULE these United States as though they were the ABSOLUTE MONARCHS” – former Zionist insider and American patriot Benjamin Freedman speaking in 1961. He based this statement on the Jewish domination of the US (media and political) beginning before WWI. Look up his speech at http://www.iamthewitness.com

    Oddly, the Soviets were run by Jews as well, but not so odd if we take the time to learn that Communism was the work of international Jewry. See Douglas Reed’s The Controversy of Zion, Churchill’s Zionism vs. Bolshevism, Father Charles Coughlin’s work, or many others. Diky’s Jews in Russia and the Soviet Union has a remarkable list showing the complete domination of all aspects of government by Jews. Again, you can find most at http://www.iamthewitness.com

    Fortunately, the Russians have awoken. They have beatified the Nicholas II and his butchered family and distribute The Protocols of the Elders of Zion at memorial services (http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12846)

    In the US, patriots are rediscovering the work of people like Louis McFadden, Charles Lindbergh, and Henry Ford. And, while Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Lincoln were not so specific in naming Jewry as the threat, they knew that the banksters were the greatest threat.

  97. hareli  October 16, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    [I posted this in the wrong place. Will repost here where it belongs.]

    The outside metal was aluminum, not steel. I downloaded the complete architectural drawings for both towers years ago. Can’t find them right now, or I would upload for you. They distinctly say aluminum.

    The 45 core columns (in the middle) were steel. They were “H” shape and 8 ft x 4 ft. There are photos available from the time the buildings were built that show this.

  98. Brian  October 16, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    I don’t know if the Mossad put micro nukes in the world trade center buildings but her is an intriguing article on the micro nukes and the WTC. The author seems to blame the government but I would blame the Mossad if indeed micro nukes were used.


    I have not had a chance yet to read the book mentioned by Gordon.

  99. Ken A.  October 16, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    “Most Americans believe that their government is the best on earth…” (Oct. 16, 2010)

    PC Roberts


    This view survived the last decade. Best to plan on it not changing, and go from there, right?

  100. Penumbra  October 16, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Bush’s brother, Marvin, was in charge of security, not his nephew.

  101. Rita  October 16, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Bush’s nephew was in charge of WTC security. There was a lot of gold stored in the basement (it disappeared). A 70-yr loan due to the Chinese was maturing the following day on Sep 12, and most of the over 600 employees of that firm were incinerated. The owner of the WTC (Jewish) had just “upped” the insurance on the buildings. Now he doesn’t have to pay for asbestos remediation. It’s in the lungs of the NY Fire Dept.

  102. Penumbra  October 16, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    There were complete power downs in the buildings on the weekend prior to 911, ostensibly for cabling work, which lasted 36 hours. Engineers and other workers were working throughout both buildings. With power down, all security cameras and security locks to restricted internal areas were of course inoperable. This left the door wide open, so to speak, for crews to rig the building without observation.

  103. wolf  October 16, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Correction: it was more like 2.3 TRILLION dollars that were unaccounted for during dual-citizen Dov Zakheim’s tenure as comptroller at the Pentagon.

    Interestly, the missile that hit the Pentagon on 9/11 took out the accounting department. One Army office in the Pentagon lost 34 of its 65 employees in the attack. Most of those killed in the office, called ‘Resource Services Washington’, were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts. They were at their desks when the missile struck.

  104. Dan  October 16, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Gordon, thanks for another great essay and photos. Has anyone come up with a good scenario of how and when the charges were set in place in the three buildings? I’ve just been reading the study of statements made by FDNY firefighters, which is stunning evidence that there were a series of explosions, some visually witnessed, in the lower floors of the buildings just before the collapses. These firefighters were describing exactly what we’ve all seen in controlled demolition videos. How did they do it?

  105. Dan  October 16, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    Thanks for these links. Truly amazing stuff. How can anyone account for the “self-healing columns” that are clearly intact in the video after the plane passes through? Of the hundreds and hundreds of problems with the official story, every one of them is proof that there is an ongoing coverup.

    I’ve been studying the evidence lately, yet I have never seen such vivid evidence that the planes could not possible flown through the outer walls as the photos of the structure under construction. Those spandrels look to me like they’re effectively fully welded box beams, welded to the columns as opposed to being attached with brackets, and obviously not the typical in-fill spandrels. In one of the drawings showing the attitude of the plane hitting the north tower, it looks like the soft nose/front fuselage had to pass right through a spandrel or two, themselves buttressed by the massively resistant reinforced concrete floors.

  106. Edward Rynearson  October 16, 2010 at 11:54 am

    August 24, 2010 – Peter B Collins Show
    The World According to Gordon Duff

    Peter B Collins talks with Gordon Duff, senior editor at Veterans Today, who offers a sweeping view of America’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the WikiLeaks saga, and the events of 9/11. Duff, a Marine veteran of Viet Nam, claims intelligence sources worldwide, especially in Pakistan. He asserts that most events called “terrorism” are false flag events, that Israel’s Mossad is in control of much of the disinformation in circulation today, that bin Laden has been dead for years, that all top officials of the Federal Reserve are dual citizens with “Israeli passports in their dresser drawers next to the marijuana”, that North Korea’s submarines and the nuke they tested came from Israel, and that the WikiLeaks leaks were orchestrated in Tel Aviv. He also has a very different view of Pakistan’s ISI and the insurgents lumped together as the “Taliban”. Duff is an amiable man whose rambling narrative is loaded with information that can’t be proved or disproved by those of us without security clearances, yet his worldview is fascinating and very different from corporate media reports and “conventional wisdom”. Your humble host encourages you to listen with an open mind and adequate skepticism, and decide for yourself.

  107. Brian  October 16, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Oh by the way ISRAEL’S INTELLIGENCE AGENCY THE MOSSAD DID 911. The deranged evil people at Mossad headquarters can tell you how 911 was done but I don’t suggest you go there an ask questions or your plane on the way home may explode. This is what happened to John Kennedy Junior for asking questions about another topic.

    Planes hit the twin towers, but explosives brought them down.

    Gordon stated: We can also say with some certainty, “No Muslims were harmed in the making of this picture.”

    I don’t think any Muslims were on the planes. There is no evidence Muslims were on the planes. Most likely Israeli military type people were on the planes impersonating Muslims to put on a show for stewardesses who had access to air phones. The planes were flown by remote control so no need for hijackers.

    When Mohamed Atta’s dad was asked what happened to his son he said ask the Mossad.

    I have recently placed this link in a Gordon Duff article but here it is again for newcomers who may be attracted to this website due to the title:

    Christopher Bollyn is offering a free download of his book Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World. A must read.


  108. Rita  October 16, 2010 at 11:13 am

    The military has “holographic” technology enabling them to produce images in the sky. In fact, the Air Force’s Project Bluebeam (using OUR tax dollars) has been in progress for many years. It’s main objective is to fake the “second coming”, so that each country will see its Messiah in the sky, AND a FAKE “hostile” spaceship invasion over all our cities. (problem is there are REAL spaceships and at least a “few” FRIENDLY alien races who may expose the jerks at Boeing, Northrup, and the others by showing up FIRST.)

    It’s been proven that Barbara Olsen’s call to her husband (working for Bush) was faked. In it she supposedly said that the passengers AND pilots had been removed to the back of the plane. Later investigation “proved” the pilot door had never been opened. There were stories claiming the real planes were flown into Canada and the passengers vanished. Whatever hit the Pentagon “did not have wings” — at least none of the wing span went into the side of the building. And there was no plane wreckage except one very small piece.

    The Jewish man who worked at the Pentagon as head of Finance OWNED the company manufacturing remote control airplane systems. Over $2 million went missing while under his watch at the Pentagon and he just resigned. Anybody else would have been JAILED!

  109. Miller  October 16, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Personally I think Cheney knew EXACTLY what he was talking about when he said that another attack in the US was inevitable and that the death toll would likely make 9/11 pale by comparison. I would even assume he is or was in on the plan (“was” in case he’s really dead now and they don’t want to announce it to avoid the spectacle of global celebrations). I really don’t think “they” could care less whether or not we continue to uncover more false flag proofs about 9/11. They’re just biding their time till the next bigger, deadlier false flag. The 9/11 endless debates are probably nothing more than a useful diversion as they put their next plan in place.
    Yesterday I happened to catch the debut of Jesse Ventura’s new season of Conspiracy Theories on that obscure TRU channel. If you can get past the lengthy commercial breaks, cheesy production format and Jesse’s frequent reminders of his gloried past, all his shows are well worth watching. Last night’s was on Plum Island, off of Long Island and home of the largest bio-weapons laboratory in the country (it’s now part of DHS). It was started by a former Nazi scientist after WW 11, has a poor safety history, appears to be beyond any scrutiny and is slated to relocate soon to Kansas of all places. Why would they want to move this massive death and disease factory to the middle of the country? You definitely get the impression that these guys are up to no good. And there are over 1,300 other bio-weapons labs cropping up across the country with more coming. It was so disturbing to watch, especially to imagine what their huge facility of test animals are subjected to. I feel a plague coming on.

  110. Ken A.  October 16, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Crimes of 9/11:

    Hideous tally described in 2nd part of this.

    “The Obama administration, however, has no intention of walking away from the fight to establish Afghanistan as a US client state.”

    “Since Petraeus took over command of Afghan operations in July, the number of air attacks has more than tripled, reaching 700 in September.”


    What was in the Nürnberg accords? They hanged people for less.

  111. Ken A.  October 16, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Butter buildings. (Also linked below) in comment.


  112. Ken A.  October 16, 2010 at 9:17 am

    No planes. One of the clearest aspects of 9/11. All of the steel beam pictures, etc. were here in 2006, by Morgan Reynolds.


    Scroll down. Unbroken beams are shown, after “penetration” by wings.

    Some of the Butter Building shots: (Ace Baker.)



    Requires a physical sense of the real world to appreciate. Most citizens posses no such.

  113. rachel  October 16, 2010 at 9:08 am


  114. BT  October 16, 2010 at 7:31 am

    *connection successful* OK so this is what Bothers Me about WTC2 being hit at approx. 9:03am on Sept. 11th. The so-called “Hijacked Boeing Airliner” was shown by only 2-3 “Mass Media Networks” 1 of them (Fox News?) from a Helicopter Miles and Miles from the Towers. NO PLANE in SIGHT. then the camera ZOOMS in, still NO PLANE in SIGHT. a few seconds later, cam REALLY Zooms in, and all of a sudden from the right of the frame, what appears to be a plane smashes THRU the Tower. in another “official” video account, a Blackened Aircraft approaches WTC2 from the left on a COMPLETELY Horizontal, LEVEL, Straight Lined Flight Path. and the 3rd. video, this one I am sure was filmed by CNN, shows a Plane” in the foreground, with Tower in background. and the plane’s FLIGHT PATH is in a Pronounced DIVE. !!!(and enters/DISSAPPEARS into the Tower, like a Hot Knife goes thru Soft Butter). The Jets Wings DON’T Explode on Contact. ?? sorry folks, a Hollow ALUMINIM Tube, No matter what the speed, CANNOT Pass thru a Wall of STEEL BEAMS.

  115. BT  October 16, 2010 at 7:07 am

    testing new connection

  116. Smith  October 16, 2010 at 6:53 am

    About the drugs I want to remind every one that it is one of oldest weapons of war. British used against the Chinese in opium wars and even the famous Forbes family now so much respected around the world made its fortunes during that war by smuggling heroine into China in collaboration with British government. I am sure today alot of money is being made in Afghanistan. Most of the drugs from of Afghanistan are being smuggled into Iran and Russia.

  117. Smith  October 16, 2010 at 6:50 am

    9/11 official version is full of lies and deception. The mere fact that Alqaeda and Salafists have always been allied with seats of power in the west at least since 19th century should speak volumes. Even now when the western leaders need to get some election “done”, an Alqaeda press release is immediately handed out. Just before Ahmadinejad’s visit to Lebanon Alqaeda had released a press hand out threatening to kill Ahmadinejad if he went ahead with his visit. Whether its US election or fighting an enemy of US these US sponsored allies are always doing their job perfectly. Some even say Wahabism is an offshoot of Zionism…, but who knows. I really believe the Ahmadinejad theory which he said, it was a terror organization which had US support and they did 9/11 with the help of US. That really explains alot of it. After all US was allies with Taliban and Alqaeda even when they were fighting Russians and Iranians.

  118. babush  October 16, 2010 at 5:55 am

    Simple account from the Federal Reserve: Poor people workers death +3.000 : 50 years = 60 death/year…less than some another accidents: Leaders from Church to Military, via some others Majors companies look far away from 400 years ago to 400 years to the futur.
    For them, 3.000 poor workers death is nothing, if the gift is enough bright: Gold, Gold, & Gold again to some blood drinking banksters from Manhattan.
    Bush/Rumsfeld were only the supplier-officer, Giugliani-Tsahal-Mossad from Israel the alone able to keep the full secret of this criminal action…for Love of Yahve!

  119. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi  October 16, 2010 at 5:13 am

    What becomes of a Nation that can not trust the Government nor Media?

  120. Lese Majeste  October 16, 2010 at 5:04 am

    Osama Bin Laden and Rita Katz Announce Wedding Engagement!

    Tel Aviv–Apartheid Israeli Jews, American NeoCONS and most importantly, Zionists around the world cheered and raised a glass of Manischewitz wine when they heard on the ZOG network that Israeli Rita Katz, of SITE fame and everyone’s favorite boogieman, Osama Bin Laden, had announced their wedding engagement.

    “I couldn’t believe it at first,” said Israeli CRIME MINISTER Benny Nuttyahoo, “But they make a good match, since they play off each other so well. And they both know that they’ll always be welcome here at Terror Central, the land of false-flag experts; con artists; mass murderers; thieves; liars and backstabbers, Apartheid Israel!”

    The gushing bride-to-be, Ms. Katz, was all aglow when she appeared on TalmudVision, making the happy announcement, saying that Pastor John Hagee of Christians United for Israel would be flying over several plane loads of his flock to the ceremony, to be held at the Wailing Wall.

    Ms. Katz’s spokesperson, Adam Gadahn PEARLMAN, said they were going to ask former USA Vice-President Dick Cheney to be the Best Man, as soon as they could find out which bunker, in an undisclosed location, he was hiding.

    Ehud Barak, in charge of Israel’s defense, offense and setting off false-flags, like the most glorious 9/11, was ecstatic when he heard the news: “The pairing of two of our most precious assets will make it much it easier to sneak into the USA the weapons we need to keep those buffoons crapping in their britches, and we shouldn’t have another mess like we did last week, when we tried to sneak some Israeli made landmines, that had Iranian markings on them, into America thru Canada, so we could pop off a few of those babies in the states, so those damned fools would raise hell and get Congress and our hand-picked idiot Obama to nuke Iran.”

    Orthodox Hasidic Jews in the West Bank celebrated by beating the hell out of some Palestinian farmers and torching dozens of olive trees, the IDF gave their typically ‘Thumbs-Up Sign’ by shooting some kids in Gaza and the American bought and paid for Israeli Air Force clapped their approval by flying low over Gaza, faster than the speed of sound, setting off numerous sonic booms.

    Reporting for Holocaust™ News and personally wishing these two love birds “Mazel Tov,” this is Wolfie Blitzoid.

    P.S. Search online for pics of jetliners that had to make an emergency landing after being hit by a bird, like a goose and for those that still believe that a man dying from kidney disease, living 12,000 miles away in cave was behind 9/11, look at those pics of what damage a tiny bird can do to a massive airliner then explain to me the ‘official’ 9/11 line.

    Here, I’ll even help you with your search:

    Aviation Today: Bird Strike Cost Not Chicken Feed

  121. Ron Paul 2012  October 16, 2010 at 4:28 am

    First of all, I don’t support the fake video argument, I see it as a distraction.

    Now to answer your question “why would the videos shown on the networks have been faked?”

    Perhaps to make sure that if something went wrong the psyop went through as planned.

    Watch this:

    “full clip – “that was not american airlines”



  122. foo  October 16, 2010 at 4:14 am

    @ Ron Paul 2012

    The Zapruder film of the JFK assassination is not the original; it has been “tweaked.” This is documented on several Web sites.

    Even if I had not already long ago rejected the “lone nut assassin” lie, I would have reached that conclusion, based solely on the editing of the Zapruder film.

    After all, if Oswald had really done the deed, why would the film have been messed with?

    That’s the problem that I have with your argument. If a plane really did hit the South Tower, then why would the videos shown on the networks have been faked? And, if they were fakes, then doesn’t that mean that the networks had plenty of prior notice of the event to produce faked videos?

    Your argument is logically sound that allegedly faked videos don’t prove that Flight 175 didn’t hit the WTC2. However, given that the networks had their cameras turned on the towers, they would have recorded a real hit and broadcast it in real time, as is claimed.

    So, if they had real (and real time) video, why would they broadcast faked videos?

  123. Ron Paul 2012  October 16, 2010 at 3:17 am

    And as a lifelong New Yorker, I can assure you that 1000’s of people in the surrounding boroughs ( Queens, Brooklyn etc ) saw planes hit the towers.

    Even if the video was fake, it still doesn’t mean planes didn’t hit the towers, it only suggests the video was fake.

    There is more than enough peer reviewed evidence that thermate was present in the towers.

    Don’t fall for a straw man argument, it discredits the movement.
    Be more careful in your deductions.

  124. foo  October 16, 2010 at 2:59 am

    First, thanks for the photos — in color and at high resolution — from the Madrid fire.

    Up until just a few weeks ago, I had been dismissive toward the “no-planers.” Even after watching YouTube videos, I still remained skeptical. As someone who works with digital imagery, I know that still images and videos can be “enhanced.”

    So which are the real ones, and which are the fakes?

    After reading your article, I am more open-minded to the “no-planer” position.

    It was your humorous example of “throwing a beer can at a garbage truck” that did it. A plane is not only made of lightweight and very thin aluminum; it is also essentially — except for the engines — a hollow tube of lightweight and very thin aluminum.

    If one were to shoot a beer can at 450 mph into a garbage truck, wouldn’t the can crumple into itself, flattening and perhaps disintegrating it? Wouldn’t something similar happen to an aircraft, crashing into steel girders?

    That’s not a rhetorical question. Would someone please follow through on it?

    P. S. Remind me not to invite you to my next marshmallow roast!

  125. Ron Paul 2012  October 16, 2010 at 2:04 am

    “Obamas Opium War”


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