Gov. Jesse Ventura Proves 9/11 Cover-Up: Will America’s Government Fall?

Former Vice President Cheney Accused of Engineering Pentagon Attack


Donald Rumsfeld Cited as Possible Accomplice

Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, $500,000,000 in bribes have been promised, negotiated by former President George H.W. Bush.   Now, only a day later, Cheney faces possible charges, so many charges they can only be imagined, for planning the Pentagon attack on 9/11.

TV host, Jesse Ventura, former Navy Seal, former Governor of Minnesota, on a one hour documentary on prime-time American television, makes an open and shut criminal case tying Cheney, Rumsfeld and officials throughout the US government with complicity in the planning, execution and subsequent cover-up of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

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According to experts on 9/11, engineers, pilots, intelligence officers and members of our military, Jesse Ventura “hit the nail on the head.”  Ventura, using evidence developed over 9 years by hundreds of individuals, outlines the utter impossibility of the government’s cover story on 9/11 and systematically debunks it using testimony and scientific evidence.

Ventura cites, in an interview with a 9/11 commissioner, a possible motive for the Pentagon attack being included with the attacks on the World Trade Center.  $2,300,000,000,000, yes 2.3 trillion US dollars had disappeared, cited only the day before in a televised statement by Secretary Rumsfeld, money “gone missing” from the Pentagon’s accounting.  The area of the Pentagon hit by a missile or destroyed by explosives or both contained all records of this missing money.


Ventura proves, beyond any doubt that no airplane every hit the Pentagon.  As the video shows, not even a highly trained airline pilot was capable of the maneuvers claimed.  Long before, it had been proven that the 757 was incapable of the task, either the maneuvers or the speed and trajectory.  The plane would have come apart, there is no disagreement with this and hasn’t been for some time, yet nothing had been done.  Why?

“thought it was a bomb…walked out through the hole..burning plane parts…threatened to keep silent”

It is also clearly shown that there is absolutely no evidence of any kind showing a plane hit the Pentagon, no wreckage, no bodies, no luggage.  Items claimed to have been taken to Dover Air Force Base, bodies, plane parts, were never at the Pentagon as both video and testimony prove.

There is also proof that the government threatened witnesses, telling them to support the “aircraft scenario.”


The basis for the conspiracy theory regarding Muslim hijackers with box cutters was based on supposed phone calls made by Barbara Olson, wife of Bush Solicitor General.  Solicitor General Olson claimed he talked to his wife on a cell phone, spoke with her at length, while she described the hijackings as now dramatized by Hollywood.  When it was proven that a cell phone is incapable of making such calls, Olson claimed it was a “seat back phone.”  When it was proven that there were no seat back phones on American Airlines 757 aircraft, nothing further was asked.

Then investigations shows he received one call, lasting “0” seconds.  Ventura questions as to whether Olson was duped or complicit?  Should he be arrested too?  Was his wife, Barbara, ever really on the plane?

Then Ventura looks into the flight itself.  Not only was the flight recorder “dead” but during the flight itself, the transponder was turned off.  Even more suspicious, the plane disappeared from radar for 28 minutes.

There is no discussion of this 28 minutes, but speculation, perhaps no longer speculation, has long been that the flight landed.  As to what happened then, we cannot guess, or can we.  One of my friends, a former Pentagon official, had a friend on that aircraft.  Not long ago, he asked me.

“Gordon, what do you think happened to him, do you think he was executed?  Bullet in the brain as they stepped off the plane or something even worse?”

Ventura didn’t go there.  None of us want to.  It requires visualizing a scene out of Auschwitz.

Can Americans be so brutal, so devious, so traitorous?  It isn’t just Jesse Ventura that is willing to risk his life to bring it out, Fox News journalist Geraldo Rivera, several weeks ago, debunked the Building 7 collapse at the World Trade Center as “controlled demolition.”

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Commission video’s redacted to remove testimony by the Secretary of Transportation, transcripts altered, witnesses blocked, evidence, tons of evidence of government conspiracy withheld, this is the case against the government.  Threats, intimidation, going on for years, this is proven.  Were there more than threats, murders, “heart attacks” or threats against families?  Ventura proves the Pentagon was a government conspiracy, he “names names.”  Geraldo makes any other explanation for Building 7 other than “controlled demolition” pure insanity.


It isn’t as though the evidence presented by Governor Ventura and Geraldo Rivera or even the other stories, Judge Napolitano’s revelations of knowledge of the attacks as early as 1999, was new.  All has been know, all highly credible and all systematically ignored, attacked by the press, suppressed by courts, officials at every level.

9/11 and the recent revelations aren’t proof of a conspiracy by 2 men, or Israel.  It is proof that there never was an Al Qaeda and that the deaths, two wars, the 9/11 deaths and the carnage across the world wrought by the United States was part of a criminal conspiracy, one that could only be perpetrated by a dictatorship under the guise of representative democracy.

Everything we have seen, and millions around the world have watched, nobody can ignore it anymore, it all says that what has happened is something no American would allow, not if this still were America.  Jesse Ventura proved something startling to most, suspected by some.  He proved that, at some point in our past, 10 years, more, we don’t know, our government was overthrown.


The strongest and most vocal opponent of a new 9/11 investigation is Julian Assange of Wikleaks.  If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange.

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Everything since then, certainly 9/11 and now, the news about Iran and, especially Wikileaks, all subterfuge.  When former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinsky cited Wikileaks on a PBS interview, televised nationally, that Wikileaks was the word of an intelligence agency, Israel never reported it or responded.  Instead, they attributed Brzezinski’s quote to me:

“Speaking to Haaretz, Duff added that ‘it sticks out like a sore thumb that WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency.'”

This is what Brzezinski told Judy Woodruff of PBS:

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: But I think the most serious issues are not those which are getting the headlines right now. Who cares if Berlusconi is described as a clown. Most Italians agree with that. Who cares if Putin is described as an alpha dog? He probably is flattered by it.

The real issue is, who is feeding Wikipedia on this issue — Wiki — Wiki — WikiLeaks on this issue? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed. …The very pointed references to Arab leaders could have as their objective undermining their political credibility at home, because this kind of public identification of their hostility towards Iran could actually play against them at home.

It’s, rather, a question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.

And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren’t some operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with particular governments.


Barak Obama ran for president on a platform based on justice, ending the wars and bringing accountability to government after 8 years of scandals, deceit and what can only be called “hooliganism and piracy.”  Instead, he has done nothing, the wars continue, drugs are flowing from Afghanistan even faster than before, 9/11 evidence, now overwhelming and impossible to ignore is still ignored.

Americans looking for reform wonder if Bush left at all.  Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American.  The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred.  This has long been the most effective tool for keeping Americans divided and compliant.  How else could a major political movement be successful supporting the least popular and least successful policies in American history?

Who would want a return to policies enacted by the least successful president in American history, George W. Bush, who left office with an approval record listed at 22%.  Many would find a number lower, even half, more credible.  President Clinton, after surviving impeachment for lying about sexual misconduct left office with 68% approval.  Thus, we connect the dots and wake up one morning, informed, enraged and utterly powerless.

Even through the assaults on President Obama, many financed by the Koch brothers,  tied to ultra-nationalists in Israel, whether there was a real change of government is not clear.  As Jesse Ventura pointed out, while Vice President Dick Cheney was getting reports of a plane approaching the Pentagon, seemingly even orchestrating the attack himself, President Bush was in Florida reading to school children.  Two years of Obama have been similar, too similar.

What can we assume from this?  Is, in fact, the President of the United States no longer Commander in Chief?  Did our government hand itself over to “shadow” rule with Bush or did it happen earlier, after President Reagan’s dementia made him unable to manage the cabal that surrounded him?  How long have we been operating under no Constitution at all?

The headline on today’s New York Times:


The headline on today’s Washington Post:


What is “their” message?  Certainly not “never again.”  In fact we know that “again” is just around the corner, an Iran war with or without a new 9/11, planned and executed by the same folks, older, not wiser and certainly more pathologically insane and murderous.

..and we continue to allow it.


  1. The united states of America ended as a republic in 1871, read about it. Then it became the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA run under a completely different cabal and the original constitution suspended. And it’s been going downhill ever since. If someone doesn’t stop this the country will implode, literally. When is enough going to be enough? It’s time to put things right, people. And only WE the people can do it.

  2. The truth is a locomotive going down a mighty mountain right now.

    The gradient between the valley of lies and the mountain of truth has become way too steep to keep the brakes on any longer. They will not hold.

    Too bad for the foul fools who thought they could get away with it. Good for the rest of the world though.

    Thank you Gordon! Thank you.

  3. Peter,
    As the government was clearly caught fabricating testimony supporting hi-jacked planes, the Ventura “no plane” or “fly-over” scenario would fit much better in a “no hijacker” scenario. The stature of the Barb Olsen falsification and the reliance on it makes this issue alone proof of a government conspiracy.
    With a conspiracy proven, a missile is now a slam dunk, based on forensics.

  4. THe FBI has the original video material. The FBI gave the finger to the FOIA by supplying deliberately degraded, bloated MPEGs at 360×240 resolution to Judicial Watch. “Tongue in cheek” doesn’t begin to describe its attitude. What does one do when the FBI are the criminals?

  5. Steve Johnson admits that his weekends comprise “DRINKING BEER, SMOKING POT, WATCHING FOOTBALL, READING COMICS”, in other words a straight admission that he is a brainless idiot, despite which he still expects to be taken seriously.

  6. CM, you have released a flood of stupid ad hominems from ignorant shouters. The real question is:- Why is it so important to these people to silence anyone who states that an airplane downed the lamp-posts? Especially in view of the fact that that is obviously what happened.

    The fact is that the downing of the lamp-post by an airplane does NOT mean that a plane hit the Pentagon. Since it is obvious that no plane did hit the Pentagon, what must have happened is that the plane pulled up after hitting the lamp-posts and cleared the Pentagon. The plane was NOT a 757, let alone American 77. It was a military plane, in which case the wings would have been even stronger.

    And there is indeed a reason why the lamp-posts had to be downed. While no lamp-post will bring down a plane, it will certainly bring down a cruise missile, that being what actually struck the building.

    Steve Johnson flatters himself, thinking he is capable of sarcasm when he clearly has no idea what the word ‘sarcasm’ actually means.

  7. CM, you are right. I don’t know what motivates Steve Johnson to peddle such nonsense, even going so far as to make up stories (which he of course does not give us link to) that lamp-posts have brought planes down and to throw ad hominems at anyone who dares to stand up against him. The wings support the entire weight of the plane, both in the air and on the ground. The fuel tanks (which fill the wings) are made of steel and the central and leading spars are made of extremely strong spring steel. Most of the weight of the plane is in the wings. Take a look at this photo if you need any further confirmation of the great strength of airplane wings:-

  8. CIA Asset Susan Lindauer blows the whistle on 9/11, Iraq
    Saturday, January 8, 2011

    “Susan Lindauer, author of Extreme Prejudice, is the first CIA asset to have spoken out, under her own name and for the record, on Israeli complicity in 9/11, the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center, and the specific, detailed foreknowledge of the time, target, and means of the 9/11 attacks held throughout the months prior to 9/11 by the CIA in general and Lindauer’s CIA handler, Richard Fuisz, in particular. She has also exposed her first-hand knowledge of pre-war intelligence and negotiations showing that Iraq was willing to give the US “anything it asked” and that the war was therefore–from the perspective of US interests–not only utterly unnecessary, but wildly counterproductive. Lindauer’s evidence points strongly to 9/11 being a coup d’etat by hard-line Zionists determined to steer the US into a self-destructive war on Israel’s enemies.”


  9. The correct answer to “How long have we been operating without a constitution?” would be …”since April 9, 1865″.

    This was the fateful day Robert E. Lee surrendered his Confederate Army to the US Army at Appomattox Court House, and was the fateful day American governemnt changed from a Constitutional Republic of Sovereign States, to that of a centralized government operating under a military dictatorship.

  10. Obviously your ploy isn’t working, CodFace. This article still heads up the VT Top 10 list. In fact, it probably heads up the list *because* of all your little yellow faces, so it’s totally self-defeating, don’t you see? Now give us some more little yellow faces to keep it hot, since words are obviously not your strong point.

  11. The actions of the US govt are designed to fortify the dwindling credibility of both Julia Assange and Bradley Manning. Why is Julia currently holed up at the large country house of a wealthy upper class British Army captain?

  12. And also a gigantic waste of time and space.

    Did you know he is currently holed up at the large country house of a wealthy British Army captain? You can write him a letter there:-

    Ellingham Hall

  13. Thanks, TJ, but my only concern is VT. Despite the little worm’s best efforts, this article still heads the VT top ten, showing again just how much interest Jesse Ventura’s show has stirred up and how well-regarded Duncan’s commentaries are.

    I have long been immune to the vacuous inanities of zionist provocateurs, having commenced my active online assault on the Rothschilds’ holocaust of the Palestinians in 1998.

  14. I have the same thoughts as do you. I dont believe Assange is a Mossad or CIA agent. I believe he is a young guy who may want to be known as the “uncover of evidence none of the corporate media would ever think to expose”, but I believe if he had spent some time in the US, or if he were more attuned to wha we have come to know, he too might come to a different conclusion. What makes me think he is on the up and up, is the the “low arm reach of the US DOJ, going after Twitter and Facebook? Whats up with that. We know that the US taxpayers bailed out Goldman and now, Goldman wants to buy Facebook with our money. They get all the profits and if Facebook goes bully up, like the dot com bubble, you and I will take the financial beating. Perhaps Goldman (an arm of our government) wants to “control” Facebook, so they can deliver all the comments unfavorable to the government and its policies?? I understand how many view him in a negative way, as I too have come to believe 911 was an inside job. I have taken a lot of heat over my conclusion, but so be it. I want to see more information coming from Wikileaks, so I hope the DOJ and its outrageous attacks against foreign citizens, foreign nations using the Espionage Act (which was unconstitional in 1917) and still is, gets thrown out in International Court. We can only hope the spainish court and the center for consitutional rights can bring those who were involved in 911 to justice. I want every repuke and every demorat who was involved put in prison, tried and if found guilty under treason, hanged. In the meantime I want to wait for more information coming from Wiki before I throw him under the bus.

  15. carter sheehan ventura perot
    1,106 comments & counting

    In the wild wild west
    Trying my hardest
    Doing my best
    To stay alive

  16. He has 19 comments on this ONE PAGE. I imagine his comments on this article alone amount to 20% of the total. I’ve quit reading ALL the articles because of this…..Just came back to check on any additional comments (of value) for this one story.

  17. Godsend, STILL A JERK, I see! Still stringing out comments, making the article hard to read for others. Thankfully, a few less yellow faces.

  18. No, you’ve given yourself a bad name. The religious dogma bullcrap is nothing which belongs here in a discussion about 9/11 and government conspiracy.

    So if you please wouldn’t mind, take it somewhere else where preaching is more welcome. But right now you just look like another condescending nutjob who delegitmizes a very legitimate and valid discourse.

    I don’t care if you’re intentions are good and frankly I don’t think anyone else does.

  19. Actually, I knew they were controlled demolitions on the morning of 9/11. I also knew it was a missile at the Pentagon later the same day. I left the USA shortly afterwards in utter disgust at the reactions and behavior of the Americans around me, which including making death threats towards me for trying to tell them what had happened.

    Ass-ange is a fake. So is Wikileaks. The little dribble of harmless-to-Israel truths is designed to suck people in. The amount of publicity he has received – and the fact that he is still alive (unlike, say, David Kelly) – should be enough to clue anyone in.

  20. GodSend, is there some reason you comment 5 times to every one comment of others? Is it possible you could put the long strings of comments into ONE comment, and perhaps “lose” the yellow faces?

  21. All I can say,

    Is the last administration must have did plenty of damage to you. But then, that was their sole purpose, wasn’t it? Making money….

  22. Dan,
    I sit on the mailing lists for several Air Force and airline pilots groups. There isn’t much written here, by me at least, that doesn’t get a onceover by committee of what you would call “competent professionals.” I am not overstating whem I indicate that much of what I write represents others who can’t afford to have their names on things.

  23. Assange’s volunteering his easily proven false view on NINE YEAR OLD 9/11 speaks to his lack of righteousness, intelligence, and grace (like RC-asset Bugliosi on JFK’s assassination). His “hacker” status, experience, and resources, with his manifestly “conformed” perspective – fascist plutocracy’s – strongly suggests he is nothing but a tool/asset or, at “best,” a “useful idiot.”

  24. I find Assange’s dismissal of 9/11 as troubling as most thinking people, also within these pages. But, unlike some of you posting here, including the author of the excellent “Sex Lies…” video above, I entertain two distinct possibilities:

    1) That Assange may indeed be a “tool” in the CIA/Mosssad/Evil Forces hands – or
    2) That may be simply be ignorant of the facts, hasn’t studied them due to lack of time and other pressures and allows his knee-jerk reaction to take over.

    I lean towards (2). As most of you recall, only very very few among us “immediately” thought there was something wrong with the story. Even the TOP 9/11 activits today all came to their senses long after the events, most agreeing with the official story and dismissing “conspiracy theorists” with equal disdain as Assange now does. Many people I know, myself included, dismissed the 9/11 conspiracy as nonsense for too many years – based NOT on study, but on some kind of idealistic opinion utterly unfounded – and backed only by unanalyzed assumptions.

    Once I started paying attention, however, the blinkers fell off and I felt ashamed that I was so stupid not to have seen the obvious. Others, most of you included, have most probably gone through the exact same process. Don’t cast stones if you live in a glass house, then, eh?

    Could this too be a case with Assange?

    I hope so. I’ve come to view him as a positive character. An extremely positive one, actually. His statement about 9/11 has dampened that assessment somewhat, reminding me to always be cautious and never take anything at face value, but because I can easily relate to his apparent ignorance – and arrogance – on this issue, I’m reluctant to throw stones just yet. The balance of the facts as I know them so far, is greatly in Assange’s favor, his one blinkeredness on the 9/11 issue notwithstanding.

  25. PNAC Netanyahu’s Mossad faction of false Jews did assist and promote Bush’s and Cheney’s 9/11 treason shedding innocent blood to send us to false war. Just as America, the New Israel, is controlled by traitors and corruption, so too is the State of Israel. 

    Rome runs America now, the People usurped: only RCs on SCOTUS illegally appointed Hitler’s banker’s draft-dodging closet-queen grandson as POTUS. Prescott Bush was SMOM: RC elite running the Vatican practicing slavery of Jews on the Mediterranean into the 1890’s and issuing 2K passports to SS officers to beat Nuremberg.

    Rome committed the Holocaust. Hitler was just their catspaw same as we were Rome’s catspaw in VN after the SMOM-led, RC CIA, led by Bush1 and Cheney’s mentor, Nixon, “reversed” JFK’s VN withdrawal order (NSAM263) and put the Vatican’s correspondent banker – and five generation Bush overlord – Rockefeller back in the Fed’s criminal control of our money JFK’s EO11,110 had terminated.

    Blaming Jews to cover their Earthly Evil is Rome’s m.o.: Jefferson didn’t peg them as “the real Anti-Christ” for no reason. It worked for Hitler awhile. No doubt Palin will try some variation on the theme. Your pedophile priests reared you accordingly.

  26. That’s why Bush was given the easy assignment on that day, reading a story about Baphomet to a bunch of grade schoolers.

    The real dirty work and coordination was done by a network with unlimited resources (Rothschild money). 9/11 was planned and executed by the Mossad and a zionist-jew network consisting of private individuals such as Larry “pull-it” Silverstein plus neo-cons, and dual-citizens, such as Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, etc, within the US government. Rogue elements of our own government were also complicit. I know this all comes as a shock to you…just as it did to me when I overcame my cognitive dissonance and accepted the awful truth.

  27. Navy Chief:

    you say:
    “…the whackos that believe the propaganda that is spewed about 9/11…”???

    The REAL propaganda spews forth from your precious government and the jew-controlled media. If you believe that 9/11 was planned in a cave in Afghanistan and that 19 Arabs with box cutters brought down the twin towers, then YOU’RE the ignorant jackwad. Wake up and smell the Kosher thermite.

    “…get a life…start worrying about the economy”???

    Chief, are you at all familiar with the “Federal Reserve”? If not, I suggest you begin your quest for the truth by viewing Aaron Russo’s “America, from Freedom to Fascism”. You will soon realize that it’s way too late to worry about the economy…And it was all by design.

    America’s REAL enemies are the fifth columnists who control Wall Street, the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, Federal Reserve, and 95% of our News and Entertainment media. They ALL put Israel first, way ahead of the interests of Americans. Face the awful truth or go back to the “No Spine Zone” with Bill O’Reilly…or to any number of gutless shills who are selling your nation down the river.

  28. I am a red-blooded, gun toting, “Don’t Tread On Me” American. But this column along with the whackos that believe the propaganda that is spewed about 9/11 is why America is cracking up. Jesse Ventura is a nut job who is still seeking attention. Dick Cheney has many faults, but even he isn’t dumb enough to mastermind something so sinister as this conspiracy theory would try and make you believe. I’ve served in the military and know the REAL enemy. Have you? NO. You jackwads need to get a life and start worrying about things like the economy.

  29. Her whereabouts is immaterial. Thousands of staffers, congressmen and senators witnessed the David Copperfield jet, many speaking of it’s “lumbering turn directly over the Capitol:” the centerpoint of the L’Enfant-designed Columbia Pike approach path/radius. That “bell,” heard by millions on “LKL” from multiple elected
    officials, can’t be “unrung.” The missile hole through three rings at the Pentagon, “missing” security and VDOT tapes, pristine lawn, widely recognized, distinctive odor of cordite, Col. George Nelson’s crash analysis, the obvious controlled demolition at the WTC, $2.3T “missing,” restarted Afghan heroin trade, shielded Rockefeller-client the Saudis, and above all the established multi-generational, unadjudicated treasons and assassinations committed by the same easily documented Roman Catholic “Fifth Column” – which Th. Jefferson told us is “the real Anti-Christ” – makes any who can’t “connect the dots” a traitor or a moron.

  30. Could someone tell me where is Ted Olsens wife Barbara now? If she was on the so called flight 77 which supposedly did not crash,then where is she now?Did she die that day by some other means?

  31. The U.S. military released all these bio-chemical agents over U.S. cities and performed unethical biologic experiments on U.S. soldiers since the 1940’s. WHY would we THINK the Pentagon wouldn’t bomb the WTC for their own purposes — to take this country into a perpetual war for never-ending funding and theft, when they have a long criminal history. It appears that the top Pentagon generals are nothing but blatant “enemies of the people” and our own soldiers….with no conscience whatsoever. Would people with a conscience ALLOW our soldiers to sit in/on tanks with depleted uranium? Would people with a conscience ALLOW biologic and chemical experiments on our soldiers? Would people with a conscience make toxic anthrax and H1N1 vaccines mandatory? NO!



  32. No need to repeat the idiot/slimeball stuff. It makes new readers unfamiliar with the facts cringe, and makes the very interesting material in the reader comments hard to read through in one sitting. This story plus reader comments is a learning experience for us all.

  33. Godsend, I don’t know how you put up with those trolls.
    If they can’t get a handle around a thousand people knowing about 9/11 they won’t understand how our Senate and congress could be controlled. Even our newly elected turned on us. Your right but outnumbered. Don’t waste time with their slight of hand changing topics. We got your point, don’t bother sticking the trolls with it, they get paid to take hits.

  34. Bush, a draft-dodging closet-queen cheated into.the WH by only the RC’s on the SCOTUS, whose family has served Vatican banker Rockefellers five generations, since SO was built on murder and arson, and whose Knight of Malta grandfather was the money conduit from the U.S. RC collection plate to the author of “I Paid Hitler” and whose CIA, bigamist father “can’t recall” his whereabouts upon which he learned of JFK’s assassination by the CIA (‘Hunt v Marchetti’) sending 58,000 of us to die for papal interests in VN, committed 9/11 (Viz. “The New Pearl Harbor,” Griffin, Ph.D.). 

    Don’t “get” it? You aren’t an American, you’re a Tory/papist.

  35. I may be a smug fool, but I am a realistic fool. I have fought in a war and I have seen what weaponry does. American citizens, on their own, could never stand up to such an afront. It would take the help of loyal American military units to help. Once more, in case I didn’t explain myself in my first post, Grandma Moses does not know how to fight; nor does the majority of the US population. You can write to Congress all you want, but who is it you are REALLY writing to? They laugh at your kind and my kind. The military is the last solution just as it was when Franco stood up to the liberal hordes in the Spanish Civil War. I’m sure, though, you’ve been taught Franco was horrible. That, too, doesn’t suprise me any.

  36. Today and in the past century, Godlessness comes “from” Zion. The Khazar sect are not “the chosen ones”. All the atrocious acts against humanity committed by the Zionists are NOT “Godly”, and no amount of scripture can cover that up.

  37. Romans 11 (NIV)

    All Israel Will Be Saved

    25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

    “The deliverer will come from Zion;
    he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
    27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
    when I take away their sins.”[g]

    28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

    33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and[i] knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!
    34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
    Or who has been his counselor?”[j]
    35 “Who has ever given to God,
    that God should repay them?”[k]
    36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
    To him be the glory forever! Amen.

  38. Really? Take a look at this photo and associated article. Bush Sr is pictured here in a family photo in Germany at age 15 surrounded by famous members of the SS. The family’s name was Scherf.

    The father worked for Tesla. Tesla did not like the youngster because he was always snooping around his experiments and papers. When Tesla died, the US Government STOLE all his papers and books. Looks like George Sr was a thief even back then.

  39. This is typically how debates with 9/11 conspiracy theorists end. They are presented with reason and logic that they can’t refute so they resort to character attacks on the person making the posts. No big deal. You just proved to me that you can’t defend your position against logic.

  40. @Gordon Duff

    Most structures when they are new claim to be “over-engineered” to withstand all sorts of unpredictable disastors. Yet designs still fail. The twin towers were designed by man, therefore they were not perfect as nothing is that man creates. The designers hoped that the towers would withstand a plane crash. The technology used to build the towers was about 40 years old when they were struck by the planes. To say that the planes caused no structural damage is a joke. The WTC towers were designed with all of their structural strength on the outside walls and within the core to maximize office space. It is obvious that a significant amount of the exterior structure was compromised upon impact. Look how the planes flew right through all the steal beams surrounding the tower.

  41. The truth will come out because the rich will turn on one another because they hate being poor. The country is broke an we are just living in a big lie. The Fed. is just giving money out to the insiders,it’s like blackmail money. DC and the banks are fail institutions. The country is being held up by the Fed. spending. Just like a house can lose it’s value over night a country is nothing but a home to many. One morning we will wake up and the truth will come out,how we were lie into war and the country was looted and blackmail from the inside.

  42. @Steve Johnson

    I know that “Loose Change” makes reference to a plane clipping a light pole and going down, but it also said that the plane was about one mile from the airport. Regardless, if a plane is low enough to clip a lightpole it is probally in some kind of trouble to begin with.

    I think our debate was wether or not a wing on a full sized jet could take down a light pole. I don’t think you need to do a google search to determine that a wing that carries a multi ton engine is obviously very strong despite being made of light weight materials. If the wing is so weak, how does it support such massive engines?

  43. I see. So you are saying that the scouts did not die in the plane crash. They just stopped comming home? Or the planes were made to vanish by the government and all the passengers were later murdered? Or maybe they never got on the plane at all?

    Even if we pretend thousands of people did not see the planes that crashed into the towers, why would the government go to such lengths to make up a story about planes being hijacked and used as weapons? It seems like an awfully complicated way to get to wherever it is you think they wanted to get. It would have been much easier to shoot missles at the towers and blow up building 7 and just tell everyone the missles came from terrorists or who ever they wanted to blame. Why go to the trouble of having to hide all the missing passengers and planes?

    The whole motive is extrememly weak as well. If you believe the government is being puppeted by some larger entity, why would they care about some missing money? The government spends and prints money at will with little to no regard to what the American people want. None of it makes sense.

  44. CM, you obviously know nothing about steel or aluminum. Please return after you get a degree in engineering and physics! You can bullshit your girlfriend or wife but not us.

    You should stick to talking about football until you get a better education.






  46. Mr Kunz
    Another shill spotted. The ADL sent us 10 today.
    Consider your assignment, making a total ass of yourself and giving Jews around the world a bad name, a success.
    Mission Accomplished



  48. If you believe a brain damaged WWF wrestler your beyond hope. He is probably out of money and with his ego needs attention. With an IQ of 65 and it takes 60 to move.



  50. ggg
    interesting the site you would choose
    all long since debunked…
    fbi visits…fed employees..
    nice try
    been through this with rivero
    one small engine..plane with no tail wings….not filmed
    ventura closed the book on this one
    deal with it
    simply closing a door on lies…
    same as with building 7
    why do you bother?
    find me a pilot who could do it?
    find me a plane that could do it
    none none none

  51. CM
    The building was designed to be oblivious to plane crashes..any size and speed.
    the recently released helicopter films show the fires nearly out…before they melted the steel…
    there was no structural damage caused by the “pancake” effect
    the wtc had very little mass of concrete in the upper levels…
    almost all steel…massive steel…cut like butter by a light aluminum plane
    like throwing a pop can at a semi and having it fly off the road and melt

  52. While I’m certain that the government could and would do such a thing, I do not see conclusive evidence that they planned and organized 9-11. However, it is clear that much of it is being covered up primarily by Bush, Cheney, and cohorts.

  53. I’ll tell when we were taken over, it was when they Killed Kennedy… and we been headed down this road a long time… its way past time for you to WAKE THE HELL UP!!!

  54. Dave, good points, but I’ve seen those comments elsewhere; are you claiming authorship? It certainly appears so, but perhaps it’s simply poor attention to detail.

    If you have actually read this “mass of writing,” and if you are the author of these words, then you would have my respect, and even admiration, for this considerable feat of reading, and also for this brilliant observation.

    If not, common practice is to use quotation marks like I did, above, or the blockquote tag, and also to include the original speaker, or writer, just in the interest of accuracy. You remember that?

    And so – for the record – did you do what you appear to be claiming, above? If not, do you know who did? I’d really like to know.


  55. anon,
    were you there or did someone tell you about it?
    best to speak for what you have done..
    what good have you done?
    …tell us
    we need to hear something decent today

  56. I can see that the Adversary is busy at work here in the midst of all this dissention. Incase some of you missed it, there was a very important (possibly the most important) thought expressed so far, in this long line of noxious diatribes and insisghtful observations:

    ” Their trick is to baffle the masses with bullshit, while keeping the smarter folks busy arguing over the details. Divide and conquer. ”

    Precisely! Divide and conquer.

    So while you people are busy arguing about the bowels of hell and who is going to be enjoying drips of water from the fingertips of the saints, and who will be relishing peace in Glory with the Father, let me remind you that Christ Jesus made certain that His disciples knew this FACT: that He did not come to bring Peace; He came to bring a sword. The sword of division. He made it clear that there were choices to be made. One of those choices was to be BOLD in confronting Evil in it’s myriad of appearances.

    WHETHER ANYONE WANTS TO FACE REALITY OR NOT, REALITY REMAINS. It is not a commodity that disappears because of inconvenience, propaganda, false information designed to distract or apathetic attitudes.

    The favorite tool in the Adversary’s little box of tricks, is to set Brothers against one another. I suggest you both consider that for a moment. A house divided cannot stand. Lively Stones do not war with one another…

    Unless you are fully aware of and have been involved with studying the past 100+ years of history and the people involved in the deliberate design of bringing our nation to destruction, I urge all of you to sit down before you hurt yourselves.

    Anyone who has objectively and seriously looked into and watched the past 60 years unfold, as I have, KNOWS there is a force at work here that has covertly engineered with great accumen, the collapse of this blessed nation, that was established to give God Glory and follow Him, with truth and honor. READ OUR CONSTITUTION. THE ONE THAT OUR NATIONAL LEADERS HAVE BEEN DEFECATING ON FOR THE PAST 97 YEARS…OR LONGER.

    THEN tell me there was no ‘conspiracy’. Satan runs the conspiracy to this day, thru weak minded people who follow…His conspiracy is to and are manipulated by the Love of Money and Power….divide and conquer…to destroy MAN…and he has been doing a very nice job of it in this thread….

  57. Paul a citizen in a democracy has a duty to participate in the government and be well informed. The founding Fathers were well aware of selfish people like you who prided yourselves because you are taking care of yourselves.

    The freedom of a democracy requires more than that Mr Smug.




  58. You are what’s called a jewish disinformation agent. Do you get paid for it or are you a dimwit gentile sheeple/who works for them. You are definitely just a normal person as you would like us to believe!


  59. Is Alex a donkey, Gordon? or just part of a herd of cattle? Or a jew playing tricks by spreading nonsense and confusion?


  60. Bin Laden was an antisemite just like Henry Ford. That means he hated jews and himself because he too was a semites. Figure that one out. Maybe you should ask a “smart” jew to explain it to you but I think you will be even more confused after that!


  61. You certainly wouldn’t be suggesting that Elie the Weasel would be lying are you?

    Jews aren’t known for lying or duplicity are they?


  62. I’m wondering if you are just a jew or sheeple shill who is being paid to write nonsense on this site to waste everyone’s time?


  63. Johnny Please keep reading. Currently, you are lost in the woods. If you want to know what is going on, DO NOT TURN ON THE TV, RADIO OR WATCH FOOLYWOOD MOVIES WHICH ARE FOR FOOLS. KEEP READING VT!


  64. You are completely mixed up. Israel and all the American jews who are most loyal to them have taken over the USA Government. Bush and Obama were mere puppets for the same employer, the jews and the israeli mossad intelligence service.

    Continued Bush nothing!!!!!!!!! Continued jewish/mossad control aided by dimwit and treasonous American Gentiles and jews!


  65. GOOGLE: “Bush +Clinton +CIA drugs” and Mena, AR
    Search YOUTUBE with the same criteria for hundreds of videos.

  66. You’re right and excellent summary Kate! The USA should repudiate the “US” debt because it was accumulated under circumstances during which the US government finances had been hijacked by a group of private conspirators .

    Out of generosity to the people who were really duped the USA treasury should pay those creditors % cents on the dollar at one percent interest over thirty years.

    The people who allowed “loaned” the hijacked USA government were big boys, they knew the USA government had been hijacked and should suffer their losses just like any creditor in any other bankruptcy.

    The USA Treasury should issue USA notes and no gold will be necessary because the notes will have the full backing of the people of the USA, not a hijacked government.


  67. Bush Sr. has played a HUGE roll in the demise of this country. He was on the scene when Kennedy was shot, he was VP when Reagan was shot – eager to step in (a family friend of the Bushes’ did the shooting.) Most of us know the 2-party system is the SAME. The Bushes/Clintons had it planned. Bush Sr 8 yrs. Bill Clinton 8 yrs, Bush Jr 8 yrs, Hillary 8 yrs. then probably Jeb = a total of 32 years or more of stealing the citizens blind with the help of Cheney and all those left-overs from the Iran-contra days, starting with BCCI and the Savings and Loan Scandal. It’s been nothing but DRUG-RUNNING, GUN-RUNNING, MONEY-LAUNDERING, CIA ASSASSINATION RINGS (Langley’s named after Bush Sr), and STEALING FROM THE PEOPLE (BAILOUTS) SINCE THEN. Secretary Gates just won some kind of award by a magazine, and being with the CIA 26 years, his background is just as sordid as all the others. Google his earlier years in the 80’s.

  68. You got it right — the answer is “the left-over Bushes” +Soros’ social agenda of “gaying” the country and complete AMNESTY and the North American Union (wide open borders). Kissinger, Scowcroft, Wolfowitz, Bzig (all the Nazi Jew names) still have a FIRM grip pulling Obama’s strings….but ABOVE THEM is the PRIVATE BANK, the Federal Reserve (IT’S NOT FEDERAL) and its owners, the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Schiffs, Rockefellers (13 mostly European elite families). Every penny of our federal taxes go to this CABAL.

    The stranglehold on the U.S. is the FEDERAL RESERVE, who got control of our money supply in 1913 and now “charge us” for “printing paper money”, a few pennies on each dollar they print — AND BOY ARE THEY RUNNING THE PRINTING PRESSES NOW! Under the CONSTITUTION, this is illegal — only Treasury has the right to print money. Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, and JFK tried to get us away from the FED and started printing U.S. dollars — THEY WERE SHOT.


  69. Mike, you seem quick, if not eager, to misunderstand.

    Need I point out I was directing my comments about anonymity to the poster signing himself Anonymous here?

    As well, you seem to have joined with Mr. Anonymous, and the buffoon “God Send” in mounting an attack on me, above.

    And finally, while I don’t necessarily disagree with what seems to be your point of view, I have taken note of the way you have scurried hither and yon in this thread, passing judgment on many of the comments here, often seemingly in concert with this aforementioned buffoon, who – by the way – is bringing great discredit to this forum, and our cause.

    You two, along with Reese, seem to have appointed yourselves to some kind of imagined IG position here, passing judgment on all, and resorting to childish name-calling against those with whom you disagree.

    My message is unity; yours appears to be divisiveness.

    You might want to rethink your approach.


  70. To answer your last question of how long we’ve been going without a Constitution–since the Depression. There’s been an elaborate smoke-and-mirrors campaign going on since then to cover the fact that we really didn’t change since then, that we’ve only gotten real good at covering up the evidence of economic failure. Our economy is and has been run by Wall St. more than by industry.

  71. I have been reading these posts and most of what i see here is hate and in fighting. Why? We are all in the same boat. Divide and conquer, that is what they are doing. And we are helping them do it. Grow up and stop fighting and work together, time is short

  72. I have expertise with camera technology and military background in explosives, and interested in evaluating frames versus technology applied, explosive flash, amongst other technical details that can be identified with minimal information. The security vehicle prior to flash is critical part of information, and electronics used for digital imaging.

    I should evaluate this video, and never had the opportunity.

  73. Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

    Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesmen for the very sizable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..

    Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

    ‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? “I will never know” Wiesel says. “I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?”

    Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

    “In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.”

  74. Establishment “history” is always a Madoff-style scheme:

    I’ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War – not a single mention of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

    Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill’s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.

    In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

  75. If the government wanted to shoot a cruise missle at the pentagon, why didn’t they just shoot the missle and say terrorists shot a missle at the pentagon? Wouldn’t that be a lot easier than making up this crazy story and make people and planes dissapear and get hundreds of witneses to confirm the same made-up story?

  76. So you believe that a pole designed to support a lightbulb is stronger than an airplane wing that supports an entire plane and massive engines?

    If you attached one of the plane’s engines to one of the light poles, do you think the light pole would support the engine or just collapse? The pole would collapse, yet the airplane wing carries the engine with ease. How could the weaker airplane wing support so much more weight?

    Why were the poles on the ground anyways if there was no plane?

  77. During year one of Obama’s presidency, while in the home of ex-Secretary of State George Schultz, when Kissenger is on the phone and dinner meetings are being planned with our Afganistan and Iraq top generals, it certainly made ME wonder if, at that moment, was our country being run by Obama or left over Bushies 1+2. Too scary.

  78. So many on the right track but completely missing the real motives of a string of happenings that go back to the beginnings of the rise of Adolph Hitler. You are all trying to make these incidents one of events and the truth is that the very same group profited from all of these situations from the second world war to the current war on terror and all were orchestrated by that same group. From “magic” bullits to disappearing buildings and the assassinations around the world to the Ellsberg break in and Watergate, the list is endless and the reasons so obvious that one would think someone would get the drift but the past election shows again the cowardice of the American people to challenge their governments Marxist leaning even as it is now well out in the open. Watch as the incoming congress opens the flood gates of spending to “protect” the people from a family friend of the Bush clan while he lives in a cave in the middle of nowhere. A once great nation held hostage by a capon and his supposed followers! Incredible! And nobody follows the money!!!!!!!

  79. R J… You are right on top of this whole conspiracy thing. Jesse needs to show those bogus photos of people jumping out of the Twin Towers. I could have photo-shopped better than that.

  80. Why wouldn’t you pull this off at night when the buildings were empty and the possibility of explicit photographs/videos would be nil? There’s too many why wouldn’ts.

  81. Steve P. At last, a rational reply to a situation of considerable gravity. The topic is far too important to be distorted by the least bit of exaggeration. Americans’ responses should be measured, so as not to be easily discredited-as would be easy in the case of one contributor.

    This is a crime-pure and simple. To be approached like any other. It’s investigation and prosecution-done well-will lead to the larger scenarios about which we can currently only speculate.


  82. @ CM ..
    You are not serious are you? I hope you are not. This is funny humour joking time for website joker with funny joke surely. (sarcasm)

    Street light POLE (not poll) or Airplane wing? which is strongest? Are you for real? You cannot be for real. Surely you are joking.

    You are comparing a car crash into a pole with a plane wing crash into a pole? wow I think you are for real.

    I do not have the time nor energy to write about in how many ways that comparative assertion is preposterous and not even worth responding to. I will however give a quick summary for our scientifically challenged friend here.

    Commercial airliners are built with the lightest materials possible to ensure they get maximum lift of the “Multi-ton aircraft” itself. Street poles alternatively are made in one hexagonal piece from cast moulded strengthened Steel and fitted into concrete foundations with 4 huge secured bolts to ensure they never just “snap” off like we saw. They are actually designed NEVER to just “snap off” essentially because that would then cause further secondary damage than just the initial vehicular accident.

    I think CM you must have been sold the Pentagon Copperfield illusion if you imagine thin aluminium wings can do what we were told at the Pentagon.
    I don’t know personally how they came down nor do I ever assert to know. I do however call bullshit on basic scientific truths such as comparative crash analysis. For which there IS A PAST PRECEDENCE to make comparative analysis.

    Large commercial jets are called “flying beer cans” by many experts in the aviation industry alike because of the fragile nature of the actual shell and structure of the craft.

    If you are in any doubt please see this video on the structural fragility of a “flying beer can” called a plane and marvel as its pieces are “snapped together” like a massive meccano set:

    I’m sorry maybe I’m sounding sarcastic, but years of looking into this tends to bring it out when I see such non-thinking statements as above.

    BTW: It’s obvious from your statement you’ve never heard of Amalgam Virgo the drill involving a crashed airliner at the Pentagon a year before it happened. Please google such things BEFORE making yourself appear lacking of even basic 9-11 research common knowledge.

  83. That may all be true and so forth, but regarding Zionists, I would really like to know how any of us, jew or gentile, can be sure that the kosher food out there, even the breakfast cereals, are really kosher. Kosher means to some better standard, right? But how do we know. That is what I wonder. And was Jesse Ventura really a navy seal or just a guy who was in the navy and had some of that traing but never was on a Seal Team.

  84. Look at that, a surviving brown shirt. Weren’t you supposed to go hide out in Argentina along with your genocidal folks? Did you come to America hoping to take part in a lynching? If I were looking for someone to join the Save America movement, you’d be last on the list. You are clueless!

  85. Zionist Slimeball?
    My Uncle, my Dad’s oldest brother, Joseph, worked hard, bought and grew a lumber yard in Transylvania. I helped people with their projects and was beloved by the towns people of all faiths. Despite that, the Hungarian Iron Cross a fascist ally of the German Nazis, rounded them up, herded them into a barbed wired, walled and guarded ghetto, then shipped them by cattle car to the Death camps. When they arrived, their kids, my cousins, being young teenagers, were separated from their 40 year old parents by Dr. Mengele, and marched straight to the gas chambers, and some of my cousins barely survived slaved labor by being agricultural workers.
    Had there been a Zion, one place on earth that would accept the Jewish refuges, millions would have been saved. This anti Semitic slime-ball knows no history, and refuses to acknowledge reality. If there is some credibility to what Jesse Ventura is saying, morons like this one destroy it.

  86. Have there been other incidents of similar size planes crashing into similar sized buildings to help us make comparisons of what this type of crash scene should look like?

    If the light polls were not hit by anything, why were they on the ground?

    Many light polls near road ways are only bolted to the ground to “snap off” if a car colided with them.

    Which do you think is a stronger stucture, a poll desinged to hold a light bulb or a wing designed to lift a multi-ton airplane?

  87. If you really believe a world changing event as complex (enlisitng the cooperation of the army and air force in the cover-up) and as time sensitive (bringing down the towers, then coordinating a near simultaneous
    attack on bldg #7 and the Pentagon) was possibly run, to perfection, by those bozos (in office) then you
    are officially a bozo too. Bush couldn’t even figure out how to tie his shoe.


  89. Two of the scouts from The Los Angeles Kings of the NHL were on board one of the flights that hit the towers; Ace Bailey and Mark Bavis. All the players on the Kings wore a patch with the letters AM embroidered in red, white and blue on their jersey’s for the following year after 9/11. Later the Kings named their team mascot “Bailey” in honor of the lost scout. He attends Kings games to this day. What reason do the LA Kings have to perpetuate this conspiracy?

  90. A handful? Would that include all of those people who were on those planes? Or at least on the Pentagon plane that you seem to think wasn’t crashed into the Pentagon? How about the people who claim they received phone calls from people on the planes? And the people who would have had to (according to some conspiracy theorists) plant the explosives which took down the WTC towers and Building 7? Hundreds, if not thousands, of people would have to be involved.



  92. Godsend,

    You are one wacko crazed maniac! This Jew is tired of you and your ilk of conspiratorial hate-filled nuts.

  93. Rather than go by just what the article here says, go to youtube and do a search for Jesse Ventura 9/11. There are 7 parts to the entirety of the series. Regardless of what you think of Jesse Ventura, it doesn’t change the facts which carry a certain amount of credibility.

  94. Godsend,

    Do you know anyone that has a copy of the original video from the Pentagon, and Camera Type and Model used? I would like to make some calculations, using the clip that contained the security vehicle passing by before the strike.

  95. Curious,

    Does anyone have a copy of the original video from the Pentagon, and Camera Type and Model used? I would like to make some calculations, using the clip that contains the security vehicle passing through just before the strike.

    Gordon, maybe you know someone?


  96. Osama is well hidden.He must never be found.Deceive and control the media.They will not let the truth be known as well. 2.3 trillion reasons to destroy area of Pentagon and Building # 7. No plane no bodies no clothes no luggage .Implosion at # 7,Bomb at Pentagon . Twins were built by who? Bush on duty at the twins.? Sleep well America,sleep well.

  97. i would like to see Jessy ventura run the hell out of this country he is so full of sh– if it let go at once he could destroy a 3 story building

  98. I’ve read most of the posts here and see that some is drival, some goes beyond paranoia and more seem to speak with a level head.
    For myself, I’ll tell you what… the Christians can pray,, I prefer to keep my 357 loaded.
    I’m not a nut either, but I do have the capacity for rational thought and tend to think for myself.
    Rather than formulating a judgment with little or no effort to review the facts, which evidently many here have done, take the time to review the facts and then form a judgment, which I have done.
    The facts tell me the three buildings were not brought down by crashing planes into them.
    The Pentagon was not hit by a plane.
    9/11 vids are on Youtube for anyone to watch at anytime.
    The themselves speak volumes.
    No one was really prosecuted for the Kennedy assassination and the facts tell me our own Government was involved with that as well.
    Not likely the proper folks will be prosecuted for 9/11 either.

  99. I have entertained myself for several minutes now reading this silly conversation. I won’t add my 2 cents. It is evident that some of the most deluded people in the U.S. have concocted some of the most inane assumptions since men 2000 years ago decided that God created everything because “what else could have done it”. Now back to the real world…..

  100. You’d have to get rid of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gates, Mullen, and Petreus, the top dogs at the Pentagon FIRST. It appears THEY are the criminals.

  101. Yes Reese,

    That’s how we get things accomplished in the US, “By relying on people that are unpredictable?” Right!

  102. The trouble with 9/11 and the JFK assasination is that Americans can’t (or won’t) do anything about it. The overly used word “sheeple” comes to mind. The majority of citizens work, raise families, struggle to pay bills, etc. They haven’t the time or know-how to chase Rumsfeld and Cheney. However, there’s an institution that is sworn to uphold our Constitution: the American military. Granted, the service is now infested with political correctness; soldiers that don’t play ball with feminist and sodomite supporters are not promoted and may not collect their precious pensions. Until the day arrives when the officer corps gets fed-up and decides to LEAD the citizenry in a popular uprising, no good will come.

  103. “Crazy”, who said anything about “Predicting”. Maybe you should first read, then understand, before you start twisting words and spinning information. Spinning, that’s a skill!

  104. It was good to see this article on google news side bar. The truth is being leak out slow to the public. The rebuilding of America can not start without a foundation to build on. So the truth needs to come out, are there is no chance to rebuild it’s that simple. The killers and thieves MUST PAY FOR THERE CRIMES.

  105. Chutzpah deluxe – the incredible arithmetic of the Holobaloney

    Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

    According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

    This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader’s credulity.

    The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: “Passionate, tormenting”. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering “You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak.”

    Could this claim be a misprint?

    Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:

    ‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz – paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

    According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

    ‘Sir’ Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:

    In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states

    ‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26).

    If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the truly awe-inspiring claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.

  106. It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors :

    Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:

    ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ (page 83)

  107. Flight93 was reported to have landed in Cleveland OH on 911, by local Cincinnati, OH television Station WCPO, Channel 9. If I recall correctly, it was said to be an emergency landing and the plan was sent to a remote part of the airport. This was on the Net for a long time but I don’t know if it has been washed yet. I’m surprised it isn’t discussed by the minutiae seekers more often.


  108. Interestingly. I have indeed personally spoken to both first responders and camera crew people whom were on the scene within 20 minutes after the incident at the pentagon in my time over the years hosting online chat rooms devoted to 9-11 research.

    They all concur with Jamie McIntyres famous initial observation:

    “Theres nothing here resembling a plane crash of any kind.”


    The line used in the above reply comment about “tormenting the victims families ” is dragged out everytime as a last ditch desperation attempt to silence questions and cease critical thinking.

    Unfortunately for you Mr SB, most of the victims families are now seeking the same answers we are, and you conspiracy clowns with your al qaeda stories of boxcutters and disappearing planes currently are in the minority who look like the nutjob conspiracy theorists. I’m not into theories myself. I’m into conspiracy facts. Just to let you know, conspiracy or collusion to commit or coverup a Federal Crime is still a Federal Crime. Removal of Federal crime scene evidence before its been investigated is ALSO a crime.

    We have all witnessed both occur on 9-11 and since then.

  109. This is the dumbest load of horse hocky ever. The whole article is based on evidence “developed” after the fact, not on actual evidence taken at the scene. You get enough people together with enough educational degrees, and they can come up with all kinds of scenarios to fit whatever theory you want. This is how creationism is still being touted as viable, even while evolutionist continue to provide concrete facts.

    The FACTS are that first responders saw what they saw. I saw what I saw. Call me a liar, call me “in” on the conspiracy, whatever. The more you try and discredit what happened, the more the family’s of those who died are tormented.

    It happened. We reacted. Move on already with some constructive suggestions for the government. We are in this together, regardless of your attempts to alienate people through deliberate misdirection. Divided we fall, people. Time to make your voices heard by the sensible people, not tuned out as extremists.

  110. i agree with this statement, Jesse Ventura is a chicken sh^t, he talks tough, but so what, anyone that is a friend of people like Alex Jones, are Israeli sympathizers. All pro Israel

  111. Interestingly, since Jesse Venturas coverage of the pentagon cover-up, it has more than ever highlighted the division amongst 9-11 truthers about the specific details of the Amalgam Virgo live drill enacted on the Pentagon 60 years exactly to the day of its ground-breaking ceremony. (9-11-1940)

    WhatreallyHappened and Rense have both had their panties in a twist over this episode and declared Ventura is wrong and have been busting a gut to prove it no matter how possible.

    Even using *(The usually switched on) Ryan Dawson from Ryse2Sense to promote his video containing fallacious and spurious images claiming to show “proof” of a passenger jet size hole in the pentagon facade.

    In my own experience of many years of forum postings and researching further into plane crashes of many varied natures I too have concluded some solid basis foundations for what these crash scenes should appear like.

    The basic facts of a plane crash scenario are as Gordon Duff also points out above in the comments section.

    Commercial Carrier Plane crash scenarios ALWAYS generally:

    * Have strewn luggage and/or cargo across the area
    * Have plane seats strewn across the area
    * Have a piece of tailfin (Or entire tailfin) or section of wing visible to some degree
    * Always tend to have SOME visible victims remains across an area
    * Usually have at least one or both of the damaged titanium engines at the crash scene
    * Have associated avionics parts or at least SOME section of fuselage visible even if badly burnt to a shell.
    * Generally have scorched earth from burnt off fuel BEFORE the Fire Brigade arrive NOT AFTER.

    At the pentagon, the crash scene was conspicuous by its absence of peanut packets and mini bar bottles.

    No matter how fast a plane is going, these above standards are identified as a routine sight by FAA crash investigators at a crash scene.

    Having researched enough crashes myself since 9-11, in EVERY incident at least all or some of the above is evident. If a plane truly crashes into a building, at least SOME TRACE evidence of the plane, its structure or engines, its manifest, its cargo or it’s souls aboard SHOULD by the laws of physics be visible or at least evident to have been present at the time of the incident in some way shape or form.

    What has also been completely overlooked by everyone is the fact that a dozen streetlight poles that would USUALLY rip through a plane wing and direct it into the ground, on September 11th were unusually ripped out of the ground by the supposed light aluminium wings of a commercial jetliner that apparently suffered no alteration to its course nor diversion in elevation after colliding with steel street light poles.

    Yet another remarkable first for the BUSH+ Co. Masters of the laws of physics who did a superb job of confusing everyone as to HOW it was done, by using Copperfield style illusions in making the entire plane crash scene disappear right before our eyes, yet convinced EVERYONE the plane was actually there anyway.
    This is WHAT the Security footage SHOULD have shown if the official story actually happened.

    Yet another pinpoint article that is no doubt troubling the old guard of Information gatekeeping.

    WTG Mr Duff !!

  112. Phillip, you are pathetic,

    Your right Godsend, but they are wet behind the ears kids and “adult”-children-moron-Sheeple. I actually feel sorry for them. Jewish or goyim, they are slaves to their ignorance. They are only effective at wasting time.

    Intellectually no one would pay them any mind.


  113. i’m honestly confused: what power am i claiming to have?

    i have no power.

    i think maybe i’m not typing my thoughts clearly: when i say i was changed, i don’t mean that a person changed me, or that i changed myself.

    i mean to say that i was born and lived as an evil person, and the Lord changed me.

    we don’t have any power except God’s Spirit working through us. if we attempt to change anything using our own power, we WILL fail. only by letting the power of Christ and the Spirit of God change us and move through us can we make a difference in anyone’s life.

  114. Your right Godsend, but they are wet behind the ears kids and “adult”-children-moron-Sheeple. I actually feel sorry for them. Jewish or goyim, they are slaves to their ignorance. They are only effective at wasting time.

    Intellectually no one would pay them any mind.


  115. i did check out your blog, but it was not easy to follow. you have an overwhelming amount of information, and it’s sort of jumbled on the page.
    i suggest hiring a web designer to help organize the information in a way that’s easy for average users to navigate quickly and efficiently.

    i think you should look up the definition of ignorance. words don’t mean what you want them to mean. they mean what they mean.

    merry christmas.

  116. THAT was in 2001. Barbara Olsen’s husband, who worked for Bush, “claimed” she made a phone call from her cell phone, then the seat-back phone (the plane didn’t have any). The flight recorder from Flt 77 proved that the pilots’ door was never opened the entire flight, although Mr. Olsen claimed his wife said that she, the pilots and the passengers were all herded to the rear of the plane, and the hijackers took over the controls.

    NOW, who’s the idiot?

  117. What I said to “thedude” and Scanlon above apllies to you too so I will repeat it. Why don’t you guys grow up, quit watching, tv, movies and sports , quit using drugs and get an education???????????

    Michael J Volz says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    “Dude” you are awesome!

    You have exposed yourself. You are a totally zio-TV-mind programmed BOT. Only people who watch too much jewish mass media use the word “dude” and “awesome”.

    The jewish mass media tells you folks how to act because you don’t have a clue and are completely lost in the woods and do not realize it.


    Michael J Volz says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    I won’t ask you IF you have read Carroll Quigley’s book “Tragedy and Hope”, because you obviously haven’t and do not know who he is! You have been reading too many comic books, cartoons and watching too much sports. That is why you are ignorant and lost in the woods.

    You simply do not know as much as you think you do. No one considers you a scholar , do they?

    Quigley was a mainstream professor of modern world history who taught CIA, State Department and the USA military brass on modern world history.

    He confirmed the real and actual existence of an international conspiracy which controls the Western World at least outside government institutions and “democracy” which many sheeple believe control various nations.

    He said this conspiracy is run by European bankers, and are mostly Jewish.
    “Dude” (goofy childish nick name)

    You are out of your league commenting here. There are other unknowledgeable
    and inexperienced people like you on this site but most leave you in the smoke as to education, knowledge and experience.

    Good luck. Read Quigley or go on looking like an arrogant immature idiot.

    No one questions Quigley as an expert source except people who get all their info from TV and movies.


  118. The Church used the same logic to defend itself against accusations of a conspiracy to shuffle pervert priests around:

    “Thousands would have to know.”

    “Surely, if any of this were true, someone would have said something.”

    “Occam’s razor dictates that the simple explanation (that children make shit up) is more plausible than the complex explanation (a massive conspiracy involving thousands exists at the dark heart of a corrupt church).”

    The reality is there are unspeakable secrets that people never talk about.

  119. PS, you have to be free of drugs to be in reality. Perhaps you are smoking too much weed. You just think you know whats going on and are trying to play cool!


  120. Michael J Volz says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    “Dude” you are awesome!

    You have exposed yourself. You are a totally zio-TV-mind programmed BOT. Only people who watch too much jewish mass media use the word “dude” and “awesome”.

    The jewish mass media tells you folks how to act because you don’t have a clue and are completely lost in the woods and do not realize it.


    Michael J Volz says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    I won’t ask you IF you have read Carroll Quigley’s book “Tragedy and Hope”, because you obviously haven’t and do not know who he is! You have been reading too many comic books, cartoons and watching too much sports. That is why you are ignorant and lost in the woods.

    You simply do not know as much as you think you do. No one considers you a scholar , do they?

    Quigley was a mainstream professor of modern world history who taught CIA, State Department and the USA military brass on modern world history.

    He confirmed the real and actual existence of an international conspiracy which controls the Western World at least outside government institutions and “democracy” which many sheeple believe control various nations.

    He said this conspiracy is run by European bankers, and are mostly Jewish.
    “Dude” (goofy childish nick name)

    You are out of your league commenting here. There are other unknowledgeable
    and inexperienced people like you on this site but most leave you in the smoke as to education, knowledge and experience.

    Good luck. Read Quigley or go on looking like an arrogant immature idiot.

    No one questions Quigley as an expert source except people who get all their info from TV and movies.


  121. I won’t ask you IF you have read Carroll Quigley’s book “Tragedy and Hope”, because you obviously haven’t and do not know who he is! You have been reading too many comic books, cartoons and watching too much sports. That is why you are ignorant and lost in the woods.

    You simply do not know as much as you think you do. No one considers you a scholar , do they?

    Quigley was a mainstream professor of modern world history who taught CIA, State Department and the USA military brass on modern world history.

    He confirmed the real and actual existence of an international conspiracy which controls the Western World at least outside government institutions and “democracy” which many sheeple believe control various nations.

    He said this conspiracy is run by European bankers, and are mostly Jewish.
    “Dude” (goofy childish nick name)

    You are out of your league commenting here. There are other unknowledgeable
    and inexperienced people like you on this site but most leave you in the smoke as to education, knowledge and experience.

    Good luck. Read Quigley or go on looking like an arrogant immature idiot.

    No one questions Quigley as an expert source except people who get all their info from TV and movies.


  122. “Dude” you are awesome!

    You have exposed yourself. You are a totally zio-TV-mind programmed BOT. Only people who watch too much jewish mass media use the word “dude” and “awesome”.

    The jewish mass media tells you folks how to act because you don’t have a clue and are completely lost in the woods and do not realize it.


  123. GET TO THE TRUTH.There is evidence to be brought forth!Keep the PRESSURE on.Jesse V. Please for the American people and our FREEDOM as a Nation.

  124. Steve? You are anonymous, I am not! Plan of action: call all senators and congressmen daily and demand that AIPAC be shut down for espionage.


  125. No doubt the silent American Jews are enjoying the show from behind the curtains and who knows? Maybe some of the decent and courageous ones may do something about shutting down the DEFAMATION LEAGUE AND AIPAC? Wishful thinking probably?

    They are no doubt celebrating the FBI/Mossad database being compiled to silence everyday Americans.


  126. Got Me there. My CIA uncle, at the very highest level, let me know how important the Manchurian Candidate story is (without speaking a word), long before he died and I found out he was CIA, not State Department.

    NY Times obituary with picture confirmed who he was after he died, plus his CIA medal.

    Obama, is the first Manchurian president, completely, installed, owned and operated by a foreign government, Israhell.


  127. So you were in NY on 911, and saw it with your own eyes? More likely you saw something on TV and were told what you were looking at. You might pursue a legal career and find out what “I saw it with my own eyes really means”.


  128. We know Reagan didn’t get any more movie deals because he had severe Alzheimers disease, even when president. No mystery there.


  129. Thanks, Steve H, for your excellent statement here, and most especially for the outstanding work done by Pilots for 9/11 Truth.

    It’s my understanding that Flight Data provided by the NTSB, and analyzed by Pilots for 9/11 truth reveals that the aircraft in question – presumably Flight 77 – did not descend to an altitude low enough to have hit the Pentagon, nor was its cockpit door ever opened during its flight.

    By themselves, these two data streams contradict the official version of the 9/11 Pentagon attacks.

    What’s more, I’ve seen statements from numerous, experienced pilots that ground effects alone would prohibit the kind of approach alleged for Flight 757. Big planes can’t fly that fast that low to the ground. End of story.

    Some fear that the government will eventually come up with video of a/the 757 hitting the Pentagon. It seems likely to me that the Pentagon would have had extensive surveillance of its local environment, not necessarily limited to video, or visible spectrum data.

    In that light, Mr. Rivero’s concerns have merit.

    Even if real video footage of a/the 757 crashing into the Pentagon doesn’t exist, it wouldn’t be impossible for a special effects studio to create a phony one showing just that. Again, think Hollywood, and beyond.

    Additionally, there are conflicting statements from “eyewitnesses” to the Pentagon event that simply do not add up. This fact implies that either a lot of people were all disoriented that morning, or there was a conscious disinformation campaign to muddy the waters with bogus accounts of the plane’s approach.

    For that reason and others, as I’ve said, I don’t think we need any further splintering of our efforts into camps defending this theory or that, by getting bogged down bickering over the details of this crime on the internet.

    Their trick is to baffle the masses with bullshit, while keeping the smarter folks busy arguing over the details. Divide and conquer.

    For those who say that a foreign power has infiltrated our nation, I can only agree. We must deal with this situation. To do so, we must first get our own house in order.

    I doubt that a mob in the street will ever accomplish that, but there’s a chance we might get somewhere in the courts if enough pressure is brought to bear on our legislators and other public officials to take action within the framework of our laws and constitution.

    For 9/11, I’d like to see the same kind of congressional hearings, intense media coverage, and public fascination we got with Bill Clinton’s impeachment over a fib about a BJ.

    If a mockery might be made of justice in such proceedings, at least it would be played out on a world stage for all to see.


  130. RKW
    Airplane parts, a handful, were brought to the site. No tail or engines were found..a single small engine.
    No wings, no tail, no bodies, no seats, no luggage..
    I have been to air cashes..
    clothing is strewn for a mile
    the trajectory given….would have left parts for miles as the plane deflected across the lawn and bounced half way to the potomic
    look at the photos of the air crash that killed the polish president
    why no parts one day and a shameful few small and easily concealed parts the next?
    you would almost think it was a conspiracy

  131. Ignorance is not the problem, the government is ignoring any efforts to limit its actions or sanction its members. What do you propose do DO about it? You might as well ask how a revolution starts… the corruption is too deep to clean using the system, so change within the system is impossible. That means that any real change will be dearly paid for. Are YOU ready to start changing things? Lots of people know the government and major media is full of corrupt liars. But rebellion has been anticipated, hence Ruby Ridge, Waco, Patriot Act laws, death by Taser for doing nothing wrong… they are ready to do anything to maintain their power (they call it order). Are YOU willing to do anything to change this? Guaranteed, the first nail to stick its head up is going to get hammered… are you volunteering, or are you more comfortable complaining about (pointing the finger at) others?

  132. “..the gates of hell shall not prevail the Church”
    I do not claim the power that you seem to have over man. I don’t intend to have it.
    ….by the way, WHO ARE YOU to judge whether I am right or I am wrong…
    My God gave me the right to free think and to speak(type).

    like I said earlier, I am moving on, and turning from you lest you judge me again.

  133. “thou art more worthy than us”?

    what do you mean?

    God has a passion for Truth and Liberty, i agree. but remember that He Himself IS Truth and Liberty. to show someone to God is to show them all of these other things that you desire.

    also, “tongue-in-cheek” would mean i’m saying what i’m saying but not actually meaning it, or meaning it ironically. i can assure you, that’s not what’s happening here.

    i’ll speak more plainly: unless we as Christians focus on getting people (as in, everyone) saved and then discipling them, we ARE ineffective at changing the world we currently live in.

    even more plain: if you’re trying to change the world, without trying to make disciples of all, you’re doing it wrong.

  134. ….hmmmm.
    Thou art more worthy than us, eh?
    I would RATHER be a man of FAITH walking in this world spreading HIS passion for TRUTH and LIBERTY…showing all who might see that FAITH is an active thing, not a thing of tongue-and-cheek.
    You too, my friend, have a Merry Christmas.
    I am moving on.

  135. we do not battle against flesh and blood and vengeance belongs to God.

    i’m not IMPLYING we do nothing regarding wrong-doing.
    i’m STATING that trying to combat men is worthless if you aim to accomplish what God wishes us to accomplish.

    the only thing that will truly change this country and the people in this world is the light of Christ. if we begin devoting more time to ANYTHING other than lifting up Christ, we’re wasting our time.

    which would you rather see: an evil man changed into a follower of Christ, or simply an evil man?

    i for one am glad that i am an evil man who was changed into a follower of Christ.

  136. great point. It WAS difficult for me to awaken. But once I did, it was like a rebirth and I have never looked back. It was truly akin to when I confessed to man and started walking with God. I am no saint by all means, just a believer in TRUTH and Liberty.
    You my friend have a Merry Christmas.

  137. MY God IS and ACTIVE one. I guarantee that when Jesus walked into those moneychangers he was not acting like a humble saint. HE spoke words that only these bastards understood. HE made sure that they knew that HE was really ticked off. HE showed no weaknesses. HE stood for the rights of the oppressed and stood up to the demons with a power like they had never seen before. This world we live in is only preparatory for the Kingdom. We need not lay down in timidness, in fact, we are told by my Lord to carry the sword into battle daily against evil. I strive in this world in order to move on into the next by HIS grace alone. For you to imply for one to just sit by and let atrocities occur on this planet is against all that my Lord stands for, how about yours??

  138. is it possible, godsend, that someone might just simply disagree with you, without being an idiot or [insert derogatory term that you made-up here]?

    also, i think you forget the obvious option “ignorance”, right?

    it is quite possible that even if you were always correct about everything (which you’re not) perhaps someone just doesn’t have the information you have and therefore could not have the same opinion as you would.

    perhaps a rational attempt to explain your position using easy-to-follow information would be helpful and more likely to achieve the goals you seem to want to achieve.

  139. GodSend, you were too kind to Eyaluth. Anyone with an internet connection and half a brain knows that NEVER has a bldg just fallen into itself as these 3 bldgs did on Sept. 11, 2001.
    I suppose it is truly difficult for a red-blooded American, who has lived his life believing all of the BS that globalists have been touting for over 50 years, to admit that he has been duped. It was difficult for me!! I did finally SEEK the truth. It didn’t come from main-stream either! Eyaluth needs to get off of the couch, get off of the HighFructoseCornSyrup, watch Arron Russo’s “America, Freedom to Fascism”, admit that George Bush WAS at the depository on Nov. 22, 1963, Prescott Bush and JP Morgan financed Hitler [our own Congress are on record for prosecution, until they were bribed and blackmailed].
    We cannot wake everyone up. When we find someone like Eyaluth, we can only pray for them and move on. They are brain-dead anyway.
    Merry Christmas to all.

  140. Ph.D. and Emeritus Professor David Ray Griffin’s “The New Pearl Harbor,” after millions sold a patriotically donated, scholarly, peer-reviewed, sedulous proof of Bush’s and Cheney’s having treasonously committed 9/11, is downloadable from Google Scholar.

  141. so many paranoid, worthless things said in these comments.

    those of you that are claiming to be Christians, double check yourself. what is your focus here?
    fixing the government? outing supposed spies? proclaiming corruption? vengeance? justice?

    if you are truly a Christian, what SHOULD your focus be?

    sure, Jesus told us the peacemakers are blessed, but more than this, He pointed us to the Father.
    is your focus on people, or is your focus on Him?

    are your actions building up the kingdom of God or the kingdom of men?

    you can’t strive to do both.

    what’s more important: worldly problems or spiritual ones?

    i submit that it is our spiritual problems that are causing our worldly troubles.

    the only reason i’m posting this is because i see many people on here (like “godsend”) who portray themselves as christians focusing on the symptoms and not the cause.

    you can rail against “the system” all you like, but until we turn our attention to Christ and seek first the kingdom of God, we’re doing absolutely no earthly good.

  142. Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has also analyzed Flight Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack and the events in Shanksville, PA. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

  143. There is no need and no point to try to explain anything to you. It would be like trying to explain subatomic particles to a fish. You don’t cite any factual evidence whatsoever. All you do is demonstrate to any reasonably intelligent people that you’re an extremist with an agenda, by lashing out at anybody who disagrees with you, using childish insults and slurs. You destroy any remote credibility you may have ever had by way of your foolish irrational drivel.

  144. Godsend,

    “How do you get 4 elephants into a VW bug?”

    Simple Brain? as you stated, might want to re-evaluate your comment…

  145. This whole conspiracy theory is so much BS it is sickening. Its interesting, that people who were THERE, don’t agree with any of this. Not the least of which, the airplane parts recovered at all scenes. Get a life.

  146. I am very happy to see this. I too have been looking into what happened on 9/11 recently. So far I have found out that the South Tower was hit by a military plane packed with explosives, the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile, and that hole in the field in Pennsylvania was also made by a cruise missile. My understanding about what happened to flight 93 is that it was blown to smithereens in mid-air and left a debris trail on the ground eight miles long with no large pieces. That would indicate that it was blown up by a large bomb (easy to ship as top secret cargo), although investigators still seem to believe it was shot down by one of the F-16s which intercepted the flight. I don’t think an air to air missile could have done that much damage. You probably know that the president’s brother Marvin was in charge of security at the World Trade Center when all this happened, which is how the guys who planted the explosives got by security. What hit the North Tower we dont know yet because there are no videos until after it hit. Glad to hear that Jesse Ventura spoke out about this issue. Thanks.

  147. Jesse v is a idiot Verizon wireless has tested and proved with right altitude you can make and receive calls, also the radar that we use has a deck that it can not monitor below if it was under the deck a cell providers network would be able to handle the call the best way to determine if this was the case is to check the server hand off logs not saying that is what happened but it makes me mad when people who have no clue talk. I doubt ATT network would be able to do this as cdma has better range and faster switching the gsm would moat likely fail and never go through

  148. “it’s the Zionist Slimeballs” man you have said that like a million times 2day haven’t you. Who controls the world bank and IMF its not the Zionists its The Queen and Rothchilds and about 40 other people. I know your gona say Rothchilds are Jewish right so why is he a Knights of Malta sworn too protect the Pope. The reason i point too the Bank’s also is that for this grandiose idea of yours 2 be accurate “that the Zionist control the world” you would nee 2 control the bank ie money.

  149. What a joke this “article” is. Absolutely NO proof, NO evidence, of any kind has been shown. It is all hearsay and ideological arguments, the only purpose of which is to further divide the People of this once great nation.

    We’ve got plenty of real issues to deal with in America at this point in time. We don’t need all this fantasy about government conspiracy.

    I was in Washington DC on 9/11, and all the local TV news — LIVE TV news coverage — clearly showed plane wreckage at the scene. To claim otherwise is sheer fantasy and lies.

  150. Thousands of people, including active duty military, would’ve had to have been involved in this conspiracy. Do you all really think the government is that capable?

  151. we are living in a lawless land. yes America is in deep trouble and DC is a failed institution as the banks are. Right now the killers and thieves are in a corner and anything could happen.

  152. God Send: I don’t think you know what a Jew is. Which Tribe of Israel do you have to be from in order to be called a Jew? Every post i’ve red on this site reveals not anyone here knows what a Jew is. Paul was from the Tribe of Benjamin and these are not Jews. Who was behind 9/11? Don’t say “Jews” if you haven’t got a clue what a Jew is. You’ll end up killing people with a name that resembles a Jew.

    Kinda like saying all dark skined people of the Middle East are terroists.

    We had one deception about who the terroists are on 9/11, now another deception is being foisted off and anyone who is “Jew-ish” is guilty of being a terrorist.

    What in the world is a Jew?


  153. I have managed Technical Experts and Engineering Teams all across the globe, and there are several types. When given complex problem, one type would say right away “That’s impossible”, while another type would say, “That’s possible.”

    And the difference?

    One would spend as much time trying to prove not possible, as the other proved it is possible. They would be assigned to provide solutions for complex problems, while the other simple tasks.

  154. Let’s not forget Capricorn 1…..the way NASA faked the moon landing. Jesse should investigate that, too. I bet parts of the NASA studio are stored at Area 51. Those moon rocks have all gone missing…are now in your heads!

    What about the JFK assassination? Marilyn Monroes’s overdose? Why didn’t Ronald Reagen get any more movie deals after he left the presidency? I know what brought down the twin towers…twin exploding Pintos! And building 7…wasn’t a lucky number for that building? Hey didn’t those planes hit the 13th floor which didn’t really exist and the planes were sucked into a black hole like Steven Hawkings predicted?

  155. NNY,

    Everything stated, proves you have “No Concern” regarding real investigations that often require time, because truth is achieved through reasoning and ongoing collection of information and evidence, and analysis. Whenever information is withheld, there’s reason to believe facts are withheld as well, and such information can be instrumental in determining person(s) involvement in crime.

    This process is nothing new, because some cases are often misguided and misjudged, and later corrected through further investigations, and some using new technologies. Do you prefer convicting someone regardless of new evidence? Execute right away, and close the investigation? The easiest solution is the best, why?

    There is no “Subjective Content” in your responses, why? This condition is typical when someone does not have the ability to collect and process information and facts, and thereafter make subjective conclusions. People that programmatically process information “Do not think”, but respond using embedded logic, they have difficulties with “Deductive Reasoning”, and avoid all these struggles. Or what many call the “Learning Process.”

    Your conclusion is based on limited information, and narrow scope.

    Do you wish to know who likely programmed your mind, without your knowledge of this process?

    “A retarded cookie monster”, this says much about you, and not likewise. Anyone that presents information that you can’t process, must “Not be Real.”

  156. Oh Yeah? Why don’t you put occam’s Razor against the zionist throat and see what happens, if you don’t believe it.

  157. LATE SEVENTIES;Russia enters Afganistan;fRANCE LETS Ayahtollah KOHMIENI out of prison to return to Iran;knowing what the result will be.CIA hies OSAMA to fight Soviets in war of attrition;IT IS PROVED EARLY ON;Soviets will go broke ;cannot winn.Reagan -Bush Cartel enter public life.Entire gov is tri-lateral and cfr.Soviets withdwaw and collapse officially in 89.HEZBOLLAH AND HAMAS come on the scene like a sex machine.’THE BASE ‘ is brough into being officially.A pyrimid has ruled for many years;at the bottom of a pyrimid is………a…B.A.S.E./ THAT BASE IS A SQUARE…..A RED SQUARE.Americas is now a Communist nation…… the RED

  158. I personally think that terrorists from Al Qaeda did hit the towers. But the pentagon to me always seemed fishy. I am more likely to say that they saw the towers get hit and scrambled to group their plot in with it.

  159. Being from Minnesota, here’s what scares me the most. Minnesota voters (democrats) put the failed wrestler Ventura into the governor’s office. And now Ventura comes up with this. And if that isn’t bad enough, now the same voters who put Ventura into office have now elected a failed comedian….Al Franken into the Senate! So, here’s my advice. If you really, really suck at your job, move to Minnesota and the democratic party here will put you into office where you can then come up with all kinds of hair-brained ideas. and make good money at the same time.

  160. Occam’s razor. It is very scary that you people believe this crap. You need to have your heads checked. Really freaking scary.

  161. “Yes, let’s focus all our energies on some minor verbal gaffes by Bush”

    The “minor verbal gaffes by Bush” are a conscious deception related to the deaths of several thousand people, two wars, untold trillions spent, erosion of civil liberties, expansion of state powers, the list goes on.

    So I say go after not only Bush, but also Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers, and you call me “a Zionist Shill?”

    I should think these Zionist shills of yours would be busy trying to discredit clear thinkers by mocking reasonable courses of action, so careful you’re not hoist by your own petard there, slick.

    Signing off for now. Thanks for your efforts, Gordon, keep up the good work.

    USAF, ’64-’71

  162. It’s disgusting. People who believe the government blew up the Twin Towers are called “Truthers” and people who think, hey, cars aren’t heating the earth — in fact, we’re freezing our asses off and the temperature hasn’t gone up in 12 years — are called “deniers.” The Holocaust deniers are the ones who don’t believe what I saw with my own eyes: The planes hit the towers.

    You should keep wasting your lives, though.

  163. OBVIOUSLY, you have a “closed” mind and don’t bother to READ. How in the world did you happen to end up here?

  164. YOU need to “get a clue”. Obviously you haven’t read the hundreds of articles on this issue that many of us have. Some say the real planes and people were flown to Canada. Anything could have happened to them after that.

    Google “Israel Did 911″
    Google “Israel Did 9/11 All the Proof in the World”
    Google “Israel Did 9/11 All the Proof you Need”

  165. I’m a 60 yr old grandfather – lost my job this year – the state says I’m too disabled to collect unemployment benefits – social security says I’m not disabled enough for disability benefits…..I’d gladly be the hang man – I could use the work.

  166. Hahaha. You’re STILL way higher than anyone in this story or who believes this kind of garbage. I was there, folks. This is like denying the Holocaust ’cause the Germans weren’t mean; you saw they weren’t in the Sound of Music! (Yes, those were Austrians, which is the point.)

    What is it about fragile little minds that they cannot see evil? That they have to make stuff up to salve their fear?

    You really think Ted Olsen killed his own wife? I mean, think about this stuff.

  167. Wow! I’m amazed at the stupidity of the American people who would believe such nonsense. Can I ask a simple question? What about all the passengers that died in the crash? If there was no crash the where did they go? Have they been paid off? What about their relatives? Were they paid off as well? Jesse’s show did even try to make an explanation.

    Come on idiots!!! Get a Clue!

  168. Seriously? Seriously. Wow. If I didn’t think you nutters actually believed this garbage it’d be funny. But… just, wow. I’m just… wow. Absolutely… just… wow.

  169. I wondered where all the nut-balls went when the Wal-mart closed! I found you! Please tell me more about how a government that can’t keep top-secret documents secret from wikileaks CAN keep a massive multi-nation conspiracy going?? Wait,, lemme toke up first… OK GO!!

  170. “you sound really worried about the discussions taking place here.”

    I think your reading comprehension is questionable, to be kind, but yes, I am concerned about people who say “…it’s time to shoot first and ask questions later…”, and about people who make reckless accusations from behind the rag of anonymity.

    When the mob takes to the streets, and takes the law into its own hands, then the authorities will have all the excuse they need to impose a crack-down, and institute martial law.

    You’ve heard the expression: jumping from the fire-pan into the fire?

    Oh, but you never thought of that? Right!

    But let’s put the shoe on the other foot for a moment. I note a couple here seem determined to draw the focus away from the American leaders who failed us when our country was under attack (like Johnson and McNamara did in ’67 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty), by initiating an attack on me.

    Not unexpected, but your fire discipline is shitty.

    I suggest that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers should be made to explain their (in)actions and untruthful statements on 9/11 before a court of inquiry, or other official proceedings, and you, Mr. Volz, have the temerity to ask which side I’m on?

    I guess you think it’s OK for our President to lie about matters of life, death, and war, but I don’t.

    You think our courts are corrupt, and so they may be to some degree, but honest Americans remain in all ranks of society, including law enforcement and the military. Bank on it.

    So go ahead, Mr. Volz, what is your plan of action?

    And finally, Mr. Anon, please don’t try lie about what I said, or put words in my mouth – you’re not qualified. Nowhere did I say: don’t worry, go back to sleep, or anything that could be mistaken for that, except by a dimwit, or somebody trying to stir up trouble.


  171. Article by Benjamin Fulford, Dec 22, 2010

    Advance warning received about December 21st, 2010 7.4 magnitude earthquake in Japan, same sources warn of 6 days of earthquakes in Pacific ring of fire

    Sources within both the CIA and MI6 called us December 21st warning of an imminent attack on Japan using an earthquake weapon. Just as they predicted, a series of earthquakes culminating with a 7.4 magnitude quake in Japan took place. They are saying a series of earthquakes is due to shake the Pacific ring of fire over the coming six days. The technology being used in this case is not HAARP but rather a technology George Bush Sr obtained by torturing Wilhelm Reich to death, the sources say.

    The earthquake attacks are linked to the negotiations for a new financial system, the sources say. The move towards this system will be preceded by a major purge of the Western power elite, pentagon sources say.

    The first step towards this took place with the arrest in Cambodia of R.C Dam and Soush Saouren, leaders of a fraudulent organization known as the OITC or Office of International Treasury Control.

    These arrests are the first in what is expected to be a major series of high profile arrests linked to the illegal detainment and seizure in June of 2010 of two Japanese equipped with diplomatic passports and carrying $134.5 billion worth of bonds. The bonds were stolen by Italian Treasury police agents working for the P2 Freemasonic Lodge. Senior Italian officials subsequently tried to cash the bonds with the UN, the government of China and with the US Senate Finance Committee.

    Pentagon sources have also said that in relation to this the Council on Foreign Relations will be soon disbanded. “The US does not need a secret government,” they said. This will become major corporate media news starting in January and going on through August.

  172. Gordon: Interesting site and the first time responding. I find it interesting how “Jews” are vilified much the same as Al Quieda manning the aircraft on 9/11. We all know it was terrorists …right????

    (as an aside Jesse Ventura stated in one of his videos it was terrorists manning the aircraft.)

    How many in this site know what a “Jew” is? If there are any “Jews” please tell us what a “Jew” is.

    Just because a person converts to Judaism doesn’t make them a real “Jew”. Does Jew-ish mean Jew Man? The word Brit-ish is Hebrew meaning Covenant Man, does that make the British people “Jews”? The word “ish” is man in Hebrew.

    You said…. “using character assassination techniques without speaking to any of the facts is not an effective or credible argument” would apply defaming the Jew-ish people even when they are not really “Jews”.

    Most of the people in North America and North Western Europe who call themselves “Jews” are called Ashkenazy Jews, who’s ancestry are the White Khasars found in the Caucasus about 1,000 years ago. Many of these escaped getting kiled because of their ancestry. Most who got killed were real Jews of the Tribe of Judah. The others were from Khasaria. They were the Barbed Aryans (barbarians) and many had blond and red hair with blue and green eyes.

    The whole Nation converted to Judaism as a political ploy to not convert to Islam on one side and not to convert to the Roman Christians on the other side.

    These people were not ethnical “Jews”. Jews come from one of the 12 Tribes of Israel named Judah. Why do you think it isn’t called Judah today? Because they are not Jews.

    Jews don’t read the Scriptures but instead follow the Talmud much the same as the Catholic church and Christianity don’t follow the Scriptures. If they did they would see that the first place Jew is found is when they were going to war with Israel.

    The people who control the Banking in the world are not real Jews, they are the leaders of Khasaria and specificly the White Khasars. Their ancestors were murdering war lords like the Vikings raping and pillaging and the Dutch in slave selling.

    Most of the white stock in North America come from the Khasars and are related to the people who control the banking system of this world.

    A Cohen is not a Jew because they come from the Tribe of Levi. So anyone with that name you know they are not “Jews” unless of course you count conversion to Judaism makes a person a Jew. In which case then Sammy Davis Jr. was a “Jew” because in order to marry his blond wife he had to convert to Judaism.

    Judah has two sides to it, one is Pharez and the other is Zarah, which were twins.

    So when you folks talk about “Jews” who is it your really hating?

    Zionists…. right? Who are they?


  173. “Again: the buildings were destroyed. Stop There.”

    There’s your message again – “Stop investigating 9/11 and go back to sleep.” Why, Steve? What is it about 9/11 that you don’t want the American people to know?

    Yes, let’s focus all our energies on some minor verbal gaffes by Bush – that way, the truth about 9/11 will never come out, and justice will never be served. Bush is just another convenient Zionist Jew-owned patsy, like all American presidents since JFK, whom they killed. Bush was too stupid to trust with a complicated mass murder scheme like 9/11, and probably wasn’t even told everything that was going on. Cheney was the one running the show on 9/11, although even he was just following orders from those above him.

    You are sounding more and more like a Zionist shill.

  174. “I think I’d rather have the law and courts involved”

    “If any heads are to roll, they should roll from the top down, but that would be for the courts to decide.”

    You mean the courts ruled by Zionist Jewish judges like Alvin Hellerstein, in charge of all 9/11 litigation, who has done so much to prevent an honest investigation of 9/11 and compensation for the families of the victims?

    Yeah, the Zionist Jew-owned court system will bring us justice for the 3000 murders they committed on 9/11. What a joke. Never forget that G.W. Bush appointed Henry Kissinger (Zionist Jew) as head of the 9/11 Commission, a position he had to quickly resign from due to public outrage:

    So your message is essentially, don’t worry – go back to sleep – the Zionist Jew-owned courts will administer justice fairly, which of course is a big fat lie. Steve, you sound really worried about the discussions taking place here. FYI, there are now millions of people in America thinking and saying what is being said here. More and more Americans are “waking up” every day. Why does that worry you so much?

  175. I will never believe a word out of rivera’s mouth. He is a piece of sh_t and always will be. Be suspicious of any thing that opportunist does. If he tells the truth, he will lie in the next breath!


  176. It is obvious now that the evidence is in who had the means and the motive for the 911 tragedy. Our entire government has been infiltrated and infested with Zionist Neo-con vermin(Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, Zelikow, Chertoff, Silverstein, etc..)a literal “Whose Who of Zionist Judaica”, some even possessing dual US/Israeli citizenship, that have kidnapped our Congress through the power of AIPAC,ADL, etc..and have rendered us paralyzed from any real investigation. Hellerstein refuses any of the victims families their day in court because discovery would show evidence that put options by the same ilk on “The Wailing Wall Street” had inside information of the event and profited from the awful event. The cry of “anti-semitism” against the Knesset Crowd will have very little power once the American people come to terms with the fact that the fairy tale they have been told does not hold water anymore.
    The WikiLeaks sudden emergence is the last ditch effort that these criminals have to try to persuade us the internet needs to be controlled because the truth is out.
    We need a “Real Free Press” in order to bring this vermin to justice. We need to keep the internet out of the clutches of these control freaks.

  177. Because of you Godsend, before long I will be asking Jews I meet if they are “zionists slimeballs” instead of asking if they Jewish?


  178. Naw, the elite “smart” mossad was one up on the A-rabs who are trying to kill us. Their only fault was not to tell us ahead of time! You mean you don’t beleieve that? You don’t believe israel is our best friend either?


  179. Menachem, I saw a video of Sharon climbing out of a pool , loosing his swimming trunks. That had to be him. He isn’t really in a coma is he?

    I agree with your other comments. Interesting theory, highly likely!


  180. This is what hapens to a country after it destroys Germany and then allows the Communist bastards into this country and it took them about 40 years to totally screw up this country. Now we have paid with trilliosn stolen and wars and perversion. Now the abstards have to cover up their crimes and this will mean wars and it might take civil unrest and major riots in America to declare martial law and start taking care of these dissidents.

  181. i think the zionos and judeocons are about to hang out their gentile collaboraters.

    watch cheney conveniently die, like ariel sharon, before the truth can emerge.

    anyway it is doubtful that bush could even testify in court. as far as i know, the testimony of imbeciles and the insane is inadmissible in court.

  182. Yes Steve, the entire USA legal system has been infiltrated and compromised by the mossad. Where have you been and which side are you on?


  183. 911 was a joint operation, fake christians,Arabs ,muslims and Jews most likely all played a role. Kudos to Ventura for exposing this fraud.

  184. Judge, jury, & executioner, eh?

    So I guess we should just haul off and execute anybody somebody says is a foreign or MOSSAD spy?

    Somehow, I think I’d rather have the law and courts involved – our entire criminal justice system as it was meant to be, rather than a mob or rabble taking the law into its own hands.

    That’s a recipe for disaster, you know.

    We need to get our own house in order as the first matter of business in a manner consistent with the rule of law.

    If any heads are to roll, they should roll from the top down, but that would be for the courts to decide.


  185. Doubtful. I’m only 2nd generation on the Campbell side. My mother’s side goes back a ways. The only interesting guy was John Reynolds, who was at the Alamo.

    I am related to America’s first totally Manchurian President, and won’t mention any names though—-and please—-I’m not bragging. The truth is stranger than fiction, we have all seen here.


  187. Jesse never claimed to be the sharpest axe in the shed. He is more intelligent and most of HONEST than ALL THE ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN THE USA who have done nothing about 911.

    Jesse admitted he was late to wake up and should have known better because he was in a high elected office at the time (Gov. MN). He humbly admitted that his son woke him up by relaying what he had read on the internet.

    Ventura is a real man. He will admit when he is wrong.


  188. My money is on the government winning at all cost. Americans have become such a pathetic and perverse group that not only will most cooperate with the Zionist fascists that are in control, but they will do it with exuberance. How many testimonies have you read where some lady is being raped and onlookers just stand by and gape? If you think someone is going to stand up for your rights, think again. Our country is so overrun with uneducated and uncouth people that are so easily manipulated by the JewTube that they could be told black is white and they believe it. The ability to think for oneself is almost completely lost by those that sit affixed to the TV 10 hours a day. If it feels good, do it has become the flavor of the day. If you don’t like it, then it should be illegal is the thinking of most, never considering that something they like might be the next target for illegality. How can one be a Christian and a misanthrope? This is a serious paradox for some. When scarcity and hardship come as they ultimately will, will I be willing to share my provisions with others that I have warned for years about the coming collapse, and yet they did little or nothing to prepare for? God please help me because I need spiritual guidance.

  189. Gordon, unfortunately I believe the Homeland Insecurity Department may have opened a Veterans Today section in their office. They should quit hiring inexperienced personnel. For what they are probably paying them, they should get experienced people.

    Of course a rubber check from Uncle Sam is paying for this all and it is just a relatively minor diversionary activity from the view point of mossad.


  190. NNY ( figures—NY—-the largest domestic source of Zio-Garbage)

    Conspiracy theorists didn’t drive you crazy. You are crazy (unknowledgeable, uniformed, misinformed, and inexperienced too).

    Have you ever read Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy and Hope”? None of the shills and disinfo agents ever wind up answering this question. You have a condescending tone for no good reason because you are way over your head at VT.

    You may not consider your job as “profiting” from your “blather” here, but let me assure you, that without this job, you only qualify for a toilet washing job.

    It might surprise you, but I never heard of “Kevin from Office” since I listen to zero Zio-(jewish)Garbage on TV or Follywood. I have noticed most shills/disinfo agents always make reference to mass media junk because: 1) that is all they know and/or 2) they assume all Americans are brain dead sheeple. That could be another cause of your insanity you have referred to above, zio-brainwashing by the
    jewish mass media, 24/7.

    If you are not being paid for this: 1) you are stupid because others are earning fabulous pay for doing the same thing. 2) you are a thoroughly zio-brainwashed sheeple-shill and/or you are either a 3) jewish supremacist or you work for one, so must or like to kiss jewish ass; 4) or all of the above.


  191. Hold the phone! You are tearing the ass out of this genealogy business. I have enough to live down just with Campbell.

  192. I do not buy any of those crappy products. They are experts in selling non-nutritious junk food. Most of the products wallmart sells are poorly made junk. Quit buying/using gasoline sold by the foreign oil companies, Shell and BP in particular. And by all means quit voting for Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum candidates (democrat or republican).


  193. Again: the buildings were destroyed. Stop There.

    It’s not necessary to try to figure out every aspect of this crime – that just keeps us squabbling and divided, exactly what the guilty parties are hoping for, and counting on.

    In other words, it’s not the ‘How’ but the ‘Who’ we need to identify and bring to justice. You can only put a citizen on trial, not a method or means.

    The (in)actions and accounts of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers are in the public record, and certainly raise far more questions than they answer. If we can get these guys under oath and answering questions from a tough, honest prosecutor, it might be possible to peel back all the obfuscation, disinformation, and outright lies surrounding this case, and get to the bottom of it.

    We know of at least one bald-faced lie about 9/11 uttered twice by Bush in public, and on the record: “The TV was obviously on…”

    I suggest we start there.


  194. Glad to meet you Betsy Ross! Gordon is really helping to bring real American Patriots out of the closet.

    I would like to hear your personal story on how you overcame your fear of being called an “antisemite”!!!!!!!!!?????????

    I’m still trying to figure out why Gordon Duff said he “likes” Larry the Dick.???? Gordon??

    The Dick warned Gordon that if didn’t get rid of the AntiSemantics like me, the VT site would go to ruin. Looks like the Dick was wrong. If I recall correctly, the Dick also said he would go back to reading the Weakly Non-Standard, and decent, civil folks wouldn’t read here if Gordon didn’t “clean up” the site.

    Looks like the Dick was wrong. Decent Patriots, like Betsy Ross are
    showing up in hoards! Gordon, that was a good decision not letting Larry the Dick to do your moderating (deletion).

    Larry lied about himself too. He can’t stay away even though he has gotten zero traction. His boss in the jewish run US Government must have told him he will loose his check if he doesn’t get something “done” on VT!!!!?????

    The Disinformation Biz is tough when you are so goddamned dumb!
    They operate on the false premiss that all the goyim who are stupid.


  195. I don’t see that MFranklin Some may be a little intemperate with their remarks, but many, probably the majority, don’t mentions Jews at all. I think you’re playing that card at maybe not the best point.

    Since you’ve opened that suite, however, I’ll take the opportunity to shed a little historical light on that theme:

    I wonder if you were aware that the famous Kristallnacht (November 9–10, 1938) took place 5 years after Judea declared war on Germany, on March 24, 1933?

    How long have we been hearing that Kristallnacht was the perfect example of anti-semitism in pre-war Germany?

    Ah, the Eternal Victims caught again casting the first stone.


  196. Gordon, I’m glad there is something about Christianity you like!
    Is Greenbaum a self hater?? Is that why he sings about Jesus???

    My uncle, raised orthodox Jew, became Christian when he pitched Judaism.

    Christ lived in his mind and heart till he died. He was conservative politically and financially but was not pro war LIKE MOST REAL CHRISTIANS.


  197. On 9/11 at about 9:15 on Fox News, Shepherd Smith displayed a diagram of the flight patterns of the planes. They were flying extremely off course, literally haphazardly north, south, east west – zigzagging for over 45 minutes.

    I knew then something was seriously wrong — were was our billion dollar NORAD that claims to scramble jets within 5 minutes anywhere inthe U.S.?? Where all the traffic controllers dead?

    A couple of days later it is announced that Ashcroft and his family changed their vacation flight plans from 9/11 on a commercial jet to a private jet. Gee, I wonder?

    Bush appears at the WTC rubble and instead of addressing the nation with modern technology he speaks through a bullhorn. I know the guy was a cheerleader but this was an obvious attempt to make us all feel that the world had fallen apart. The good ol’pres is trying his best to communicate in the utter destruction by using a bullhorn —- RIDICULOUS!

    Criminal cartel carries right on and the sheep keep bleating — we need some lions that can roar!

  198. There is no need for taking to the street with pitchforks, and certainly not for revolution, when our great Ship-of-State is intact, just way off-course.

    As a reminder, we do have some very specific laws about treason, and institutions for enforcing those laws and meting out punishement. What we do need are honest and brave Americans – lot’s of ’em – to see that truth and justice are served.

    The best plan is to focus on the simple fact that crimes were committed on 9/11, the guilty have not been brought to justice, and the official government myth is utterly unbelievable.

    Arguing about the details of this event is like chasing the snake’s tail. To kill the serpent, first you must seize its head.

    Whatever role MOSSAD (or any other foreign intelligence agency) played in this affair, we cannot haul them before an American court of inquiry like we can with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers.

    To my knowledge, not one of these guys has ever given a believable account of his actions that day, and they all should, since they were in charge.

    This is the important issue, not whether it was dagger or dirk.

  199. Yep, so I guess my comments were accurate!

    I guess Norman Greenbaum and Norman Finkelstein are “good” jews!


  200. quite right…exposure USED TO results, and still does…sometimes. but, in this upside-down world that we live in, those of us who even suspect, let alone know what the truth of everything is, are branded by later “johhny-come-latelies” like geraldo, as whackos, and villified for having the common sense to know what manure is when it is placed in front of us. ten the parade of baffoons like geraldo suddenly change their tunes, usually when it suits them for rating and what-not. one only has to look at the ultimate cover-up to know the enormity, and lengths that the news media, and others will go to maintain the shroud of darkness…jfk…that little gem has been chasing its tail around, for as long as i have been on this earth, and it will be long after i am gone, sadly enough.

  201. That’s the exact sort of mentality that drives me crazy about conspiracy theorists. If you disagree you’re somehow profiting financially from doing so? Give me a break. Also, you’ll “generously” leave my comment? What, is it out of character for you to allow disagreeable comments? I can’t actually believe anyone stands up for this crap. This TV show is pure sensationalism. What they do is, as they do with most conspiracy theory shows, abstract science oriented programming, and pseudo science oriented programming, is pick up a topic that has actually already been dragged around in various public forums for years, and try to present it as something new. Jesse Ventura said not a single thing that hasn’t been circulating the internet for years. More importantly, much of what he calls evidence is actually conjecture, and selective at that. What I’ve just stated is fact. If you don’t want to believe it, that’s fine, but people pulling things out of their butts and calling it evidence frustrates me. The reason our government hasn’t “fallen” (a little bit of sensationalism yourself there, eh?), is because none of what is presented here is actually evidence of anything. And no, I don’t work for the government or the Illuminati, or Zionists, or live in a sub-aquatic alien base controlled by Obama’s secret Satanic cult. I’m just a normal person who knows what crap smells like.

  202. You know I think its the greek-frats.Most presidents,supremes and 70% of congressman are greek frats.As well as fortune 500 executives.I find out that many cia directors where a member of phi betta kappa.

  203. The majority if Americans will do nothing to stop it from happening again. They have their heads buried in the sand and will believe whatever comes from their telivisions. Our government is being run like a criminal enterprize.

  204. Hmmm 310 million you say…well think on this…
    About a third of them actually work for a government entity…Departments of Energy, Education, Postal, FDA, etc. (you should get the idea)

    So, if we get rid of the government, we also have all those people out of work, so they will politely side with the government because they have money in their pockets.

    The 2nd third are welfare recipients. Those on welfare, disability, social security. They rely on a monthly check. While those on social security basically worked and paid INTO the system deserve their checks, the others don’t because they are too lazy to work.

    The3rd third are us hard working citizens who see through the glass and are waking up to the crap our government is taking away from us.

    So, when you have 2/3rds of the population relying on government…they will never LISTEN to the truth because they can just sit back in their easy chair,
    drink their beer and watch sports on tv.

    So, it is undoubtedly that folks won’t wake up and don’t want to because then they would give up the free ride…

  205. Check out Prescott Bush, Sr’s dad who was a nazi sympathizer and helped to launder money for the Hitler regime. Sr. and Jr. were trained well. I don’t trust either of them.

  206. L. D. = Leslie Davis
    perhaps = Larry Dickerson????????????

    I agree…why is he so adamant about discrediting Ventura…Isn’t
    the topic of discussion on 911 and how Cheney should go to jail???

    He can stop with the bullshyt whoever he is…you folks are doing a
    great job at discrediting Mr. L. D.!!!

  207. There were no planes on 9/11 – it was a massive, pre-planned psyop using a totally complicit media. I was very skeptical of the “no-planes” theory at first, and didn’t even want to hear about it, because we all saw the planes on TV, right? So, there HAD to have been planes, right? Then I watched “September Clues,” and realized that there were no planes on 9/11! There were probably missiles, or bombs in the buildings, or even more advanced technology used, but definitely not 757s and 767s, supposedly flown at 550 mph with pinpoint accuracy by incompetent Arab pilots who couldn’t even fly a Cessna trainer properly. Watch “September Clues” – there are two parts, “1st Half” and “2nd Half.” The link for the “2nd Half” is located at the upper right of the screen (below the title) of this web page. Watch them both, in order:

    One thing you will notice in the “2nd Half” September Clue video is that nearly all of the people who supposedly filmed planes hitting the WTC were computer graphics / film media professionals, not just “people in the street.” What an amazing coincidence! Also, note the preponderance of Jewish names for the media people in both videos.

    Then, for the possibility that even more advanced technology was used to attack the WTC towers, see the analysis in this video:

    As a side note, I once read an article on the Internet which said that Dick Cheney was a Swedish Jew (like Dwight D. Eisenhower), who converted to the Methodist faith back in the early 1970s, most likely for political expediency, since he was beginning his political career at that time. That article has apparently been removed from the Internet, as I can no longer find it. Of course, the Jewish-owned Wikipedia lies about Cheney’s ethnicity. Here is a side photo of Dick Cheney in 1975 (he’s on the right) – just a nice grinning Jewish boy:,_April_28,_1975.jpg

    Scroll far down this page to see a more recent photo of Dick Cheney laughing it up with his Chabad Lubavitch buddies – the joke’s on us:

    So, it doesn’t surprise me at all that Dick Cheney is the prime culprit in the murder of some 3000 people on 9/11. Dick Cheney, the pit of Hell awaits you. Better bring some barbecue sauce!

  208. Mike is right…
    If you buy gold and silver, get a strong box and bury it somewhere. Do not let the banks hold it in a safe deposit box.

    I have only bought one time from Walmart as hubby wanted to go there. I hate the store myself…selling all china made products (suffice their cheap labor laws in china) and most things are only good for a year or two.

    If we as citizens refuse to buy foreign products, it will bring their downfall.

    Go to google and research CFR, the Council of foreign relations…check out their members and the businesses that belong to them. Boycott them all.

    They own Stouffers dinners, Jack’s pizza, Tombstone pizza, Dijourno pizza, and California Kitchen pizzas. Nesquik, juicy Juice, Pure lifewater, Toll house cookies, Edy’s ice cream, Lean or Hot pockets, Gerber’s graduates, Nestle candies and Purina cat chow to name a few.

    BUY AMERICAN…there are many companies not affiliated with the CFR.
    Let’s spread the word and put them out of business for a start…that will help to bring “them down”…

  209. I think you have touched upon something that frustrates those of us who are paying attention more than anything else. That is the way damning evidence about 9/11 and is then ignored by by most people, including the media.

    There is MORE than enough evidence to trigger multiple investigations, and yet all we get is a giant shrug.

    We often think that all we have to do is provide evidence of wrongdoing, and then the pressure of exposure will do the rest. Instead we have had revelation after revelation and nothing ever happens. The presence of military grade nanothermite should have triggered a massive investigation by itself. The symmetrical and controlled collapse of WTC7 should have done so as well. Yet all we get from the media is a giant sneer. What’s more, after you provide them with mountains of evidence, they turn right around and say, “there is no evidence…”

    “None are so blind, as those who will not see.” – Proverbs, Jonathan Swift

    Laser Guided Loogie

  210. Kate, they don’t want borders because they are pushing the North American Union agenda. Joining Canada and Mexico to the USA, formulating a NEW constitution making ours null and void!!! Google NAU, SPP, NASCO…you will see how it all ties together…

    Jessie Ventura once said…”Building a wall is like enclosing us, who have done nothing wrong IN”…

    Youtube has his video from the Restore the Republic Convention 2008 with Ron Paul where he talks about 911 and the border. It’s in 3 parts and an interesting take on what he has to say if anyone is interested.

  211. Geraldo – let the man speak – good GRIEF – everytime either of them tried to talk, you broke in (interrupted them) to talk over them, and ask questions that they were TRYING to answer you with. You wasted the first three minutes of the video to re-ask the engineer the same question that he had already “tried” to answer you with.

    /me gets off soap box now.
    But jeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

  212. It’s a shame that this story shakes so much racism loose. There is a truth buried here that could change the nation… and the world. But instead of it getting genuine attention and some honest dialogue, it sinks into a Jew-hating session.

    What a waste.

  213. Jesse, where the hell were you 10 years ago when it was obvious to anyone with a brain larger than a pea that 911 was set up by our dual citizen run government. Remember the Liberty….. Nuff said

  214. a Revolution in America, never, people in the US are too stupid to even try something like that, and i don’t care how many guns you got, there will be NO REVOLUTION IN THE US EVER.

  215. See for yourself! Jesse had 5 photo’s from the Pentagram on his show. The fourth one clearly show’s the aircraft that fired the missile. See it yourself on the following, or watch Jesse’s video again.

    “The Attack on The Pentagon” is an outstanding article with much photo evidence of what happened, and what did not happen, at the Pentagon on 9-11. The first version of this article appeared on this website on September 13th, 2001.
    Go to:
    then click onto the following two parts to see the CCTV photos of the missile impact (part 3) as well as the photo of a predator (part 4) which can be seen clearly to the left of the fireball from the explosion as it passes over and by the the Pentagram after firing the missile.
    3) The Official Story: The Pentagon
    4) What Actually Happened?

  216. NNY
    I will leave your comment in place. It is childish and insubstantial, as though you were assigned to make it. I hope they aren’t paying you much…you aren’t worth much.

  217. In the 911 TV show with Jesse Ventura there was testimony that a 757 passed over the Pentagon when it exploded.

    They used a decoy 757 that was synchronized to reach the Pentagon at the same time as the cruise missile or the fighter jet carrying the cruise missile.

    According to Citgo gas station employees and a security guard, a 757 passed very low to the left of the gas station across the Pentagon lawn just before the Pentagon was hit and then pulled up and over the Pentagon. But the trajectory of what hit the Pentagon was far to the right of the Citgo gas station. It was a difference of 10 to 20 degrees looking down.

  218. ERRT! INcorrect DATA INput! Distraction Distraction! The first target on 9-11 was about to process the fake Brady Bonds that had just reached their 10 year maturity date in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald. The gold heist under building 5 and the SEC investigation in Building 7 were all tied to the destruction in the Pentagon. The plans for this catastrophe were made before the WTC was even designed. They don’t call it the thousand year Reich for nothing.

  219. What faith you beleive in should not matter that is pure ignorance.What does matter is the Banking cartel stealing from Americas society, thats what matters and needs to change!

  220. IF Jesse is right & it can be proven then there will be Revolution in America. The People are frustrated with the economy/corrupt politicians/future for their children & are ready to vent this anger on someone.

    Just finished a book that’s about Americans finally taking a stand. I’m giving it out to others & it’s a must read cause it’s so real. I recommend it for everyone.

    Jesse has been showing so much corruption, in his shows, that he is getting the highest rating on TV during prime time. The PEOPLE are now starting to understand what is really happening.

    First to hear this, thanks,

  221. @ Brian: There are two big engines on a 757. Only one was found; and it was typical of a Globalhawk. So was the composite wing section and landing gear photographed inside the pentagon. The FBI detailed the wreckage locations and the damages done. Where is that report?

    The NTSB released it’s radar data which showed the moment flight 77 became part of the NORAD drill being run that day through the 84thRADES in Utah. This “Radar Evaluation Squadron” receives ALL OF THE RADAR DATA FROM EVERY SINGLE FAA TRACKING FACILITY and then rebroadcasts it to the airports. They can delete and add contacts at will any where any time. Regardless of what the truth is; the official story is a provable lie.

  222. nevermind that Jesse Ventura sounds like Kevin from The Office… or a retarded cookie monster… everything they talk about here is not news. All of these claims have been circling for years, and have been proved false. Seriously people, do a little homework. That’s all I ask. Please stop believing armchair physicists, kids posting youtube videos, and people who generally take ANY conspiracy theory as truth.
    Mr. Ventura’s show is generally garbage anyway. The one he did on Plumb Island was ridiculous. It would have been laughable if it didn’t inspire so many other morons to adopt flawed theories.
    Either way, this is certainly NOT news. To Mr. Duff, no American government is not likely to fall as a result of this information any more than it was almost a decade ago when these “theories” were first brought up. the evidence they use is in fact nothing more than broad assumptions, run-of-the-mill conspiracy blather, and photos selected for optimal support of their theories (such as the holes, and the lawn). Nevermind that many of the “eyewitnesses” that they use here didn’t even see anything. They didn’t see a plane, but they didn’t see anything else either. They “heard a bomb.” Weird, do explosions sound like bombs, or do bombs sound like explosions?

  223. There is no such thing as a “former” Navy SEAL. If Ventura was lying about his service he would have been stopped along time ago.

  224. Right on HUMAN2HUMAN! AE9-11 presents the entire set of plans for the WTC EXCEPT FOR THE COLUMN SCHEDULE SHEET! This is the page that contains the size and shape of the vertical steel members in the twins. This information is critical in determining the resistance to failure that was impossibly demonstrated on the TV that fateful morning.

    The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.

  225. It’s really surprising to me that some of these high profile people Chosen by God to screw the Goyim haven’t met their well deserved fate.
    We all know those responsible for 911 so now what do we do about it? Do we all meet at 1600 Pennsylvania with pitchforks and portable gas ovens? How can we unite when we are split into so many different factions?

  226. If a ‘heavy’ (jet) hit the Pentagon, then there would be two holes caused by the 6 ton engines in the facade. Or cracks in the concrete where they bounced off. But neither wreckage or damage were visable, just one hole. Obviously at ground floor level there would be gouges in the lawn? Looks like it was a missile to me.

  227. Over half our Congress and Senate is guilty of treason. They should be charged, given a speedy trial, and then taken out and shot multiple times by firing squad. Our entire government is controlled by Israel and is Israeli occupied territory. These Zionists ticks have sucked all the wealth from America’s veins and left her to die. Meanwhile, the sheeple don’t have a clue they don’t have a clue…..

  228. Yeah, but what will that treasonous disinformation stooge Michael Wiener (Savage) say to his stooge audience? What further calumny and defamation can he rail on the entire Muslim community?

  229. Why do we have to do ALL this reasoning, research, proof, and logic to justify why the official story doesn’t jive? No need to go through all the time and effort.

    When the US Government is involved, only lies are told.
    When politicians are involved, only treason is legislated.
    When Bankers are involved, only thief results.
    When Zionists are involved, they control all the three above!

    What obligation does ANY Government official have requiring that they always tell the truth? Absolutely NONE! Zero. Nada. Zip. If you believe they ever would, you’ll be one of the first on the train to the camps!

    The TSA has proven to the public that, the public are worthless animals to be mishandled and radiated. So, let’s see….who touches a plane? Mechanics, Cleaners, Fuel personnel, and Baggage Handlers. Do they get radiated or molested for each plane they come into contact with? Nope! So, guess where the weakest security holes are? Duh!

    If Americans don’t pick their collective butts off the ground and put the TV remotes down, the only new “reality shows” will be spoken in Chinese!

  230. The penetration at the pentagon may have required something more robust….this is why the Granit seems to have so much credibility


  231. Gordon,
    I believe that it was a drone at the Pentagon considering what parts/pieces evidence was present and not a plane. What do you think?

  232. “not all people with such names are Jews (or Zionists). Ever hear of Norman Greenbaum?”

    Yep, sure have…great song. Btw, Norman is Jewish.


  233. “Then, the Zionist Slimeballs in the Knesset LIE about their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY! THEY make Idi Amin, Stalin and Hitler look like saints!”

    Compared to Stalin and his gang of cut-throat Jews, Hitler and Idi Amin WERE saints. I do get your point, however.


  234. “(And Israeli is another matter. Sort of: Israeli is to Jew is to Zionist,”

    Israeli is a Zionist construct; illegitimate and very cruel.


  235. “They have been for a long time trying to establish VT as a racist “KKK” site (Larry Dickerson) when there is not even a hint of racism against Black Americans on this site.”

    And these bastards are the JKK! These Khazars are the world’s foremost domineering and tribal hypocrites (“racists”) in the world! Yet it is pure “hate” and “intolerance” for gentile Whites to organize along racial lines or speak out in the same manner regarding issues of concern and importance to us!

    F-U! We’re doing it anyway! More and more each day!


    *Ju Klux Klan

  236. “Semen Weaselfraud Center says anti-Semitic canards”

    Anti-semitic ‘canards’ = TRUTH! TRUTH! TRUTH!

    I ask you, when have you heard this psychotic tribe ever say: anti-semitic LIES? I’ve never! Have you?

    “normally attributed to the lunatic fringe”

    Stock Jewish response…BIG YAWNNNNN.

    Look in the mirror, Jewbug! Tis YOU who are lunatics! What sane person could invent and believe the holocaust lies and “chosen race” myth?!

    What delusional nutjobs…


  237. “Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American.”

    Yeah, I’m very disturbed by that too. I’m especially disturbed because ‘he’ is not a “natural born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution of all presidents since day one. I’m disturbed because of his very limited political experience and his far Left, Marxist-based beliefs. And last but not least, I’m disturbed by his oh, so, red, white & blue, all-American name: Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Now that’s an all-American presidential name if ever there was one–right up there with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Kennedy!

    We arrest, prosecute and ultimately hang one Hussein and not long afterwards elect another Hussein as U.S. president!

    “The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred.”

    Wrong. They’re very much based on his incompetence and far Left political beliefs.

    And speaking of “race hatred,” is it that when 95% of those Blacks who voted in the last presidential election overwhelming and instinctively did so because he was one of them, with noteworthy Black ex-Republicans jumping ship last minute to show (racial) solidarity and giving their support to “da brotha”?

    Yeah, “race hatred”…only when its practiced by Whitey.


  238. “Can Americans be so brutal, so devious, so traitorous?”

    As Jew’ed and corrupt as our politicians and its agencies in Zogtown (no longer Georgetown) have become–ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, GUARGANTUAN, AFFIRMATIVE “YES.”

    What we have is akin to a police precinct that is thoroughly corrupt except on a much larger, federal level. And the same measures that are used to restore law and order and public trust must be applied.

    What we need is a modern day Elliot Ness to lead the charge!


  239. We are helping you stack the firewood today Gordon, not yesterday. Thanks for your public service Gordon!


  240. They are losing. When it comes to th point when you use the media as your hate mouth piece and so overtly we are winning. For years they have made our country look like Hollywood Blvd. but it has been incremental. This hate and war mongering, is so blatant I feel as thopugh we are getting to them. Remember what Golda Meir said they will bring the World down with them

    Thanks, my kids are getting educated REAL history, truth and how the world works the best I know. They can make their own minds up. The first thing that pissed me off was them watching “An Inconvenient Truth” (the Gore thing)IN school

  241. Gordon, Is Mr Baum the guy who told you what creeps Henry Ford and Ralph Nader are/were? ( I thought you were getting the “Inside” (jewish community)dope on them.

    He makes criminal threats on VT, so I doubt if he would refrain from a little good old defamation!

    If you have his phone number and address as he says, you should report him to the sheriff in his county. I think the threat was very explicit, not even veiled.


  242. You are essentially right Reece, but Baum is a common German Jewish name. I don’t believe many if any Christians ever chose it despite it’d neutral, simple meaning.

    “The precise meaning of the Jewish surname, which is of later formation, is unclear. This surname is also found elsewhere in central and eastern Europe, for example in Slovenia, where it may also be a translation of Kmet.”

    Beyer, (meaning from of the Black Forest) is another “german word” very, very commonly adopted by German jews. Miller, Keller, Mayor etc common German jewish names based on common German words.

    I assure you, every Baum I have ever heard of was Jewish, including Mr Greenbaum! (Greentree (Financial)?? Tennebaum —another common German Jewish name—— means Christmas Tree if I’m not mistaken, Funy name fo jew?


  243. The jewish “educators” who run your school system (and ours, of course) have a reputation for being “O so “SMART”” and “ethical” and “wise” too of course!

    They are merely sharing their “supreme” knowledge with your sweet little goyim hatchlings. Rest assured they will have jobs for your kids when they get a little older, fighting Israel’s endless enemies!

    If you are allowing your kids to watch ANY Follywood movies (or TV) you are exposing your children to non-stop hate mongering and racism against A-rabs , Muslims and patriotic Americans.


  244. The best definition I ever heard of the word :”sociopath” is “soulless” and that fits very well . Possessing a soul is said to be exactly what differentiates a human from an animal. I have known some sociopaths and I recall they always give me a creepy feeling, when I can’t help realizing there is something very important completely missing in them.

    They look like completely normal humans but are incapable of human emotion, conscience.


  245. David Duke, a while back published some sources that indicate the IQ’s in Israel are extremely low. Of course this surprises most American Goyim who have been indoctrinated into belief of jewish supremacy.

    I believe their power is undying love of money plus organization which
    includes vicious enforcement of collaboration. Even the many total dumbells are forced to provide some service or else.

    If patriotic Americans collaborated like the jews we would not be in the fix we are in now. The word “fix” wasn’t meant as a pun but it is certainly apropos!


  246. Whew!
    Next time, tell us how you really feel, LC.

    The main point to remember is a simple one: a crime was committed at the Pentagon, and no one has been brought to justice, or even made to answer ‘what went wrong?’

    Obviously, our leaders that day, for one reason or another, were completely and totally ineffective in taking any action to prevent the attacks.

    At the very least, this is derelection of duty, and probably far worse.

    The actions and public statements of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers are known to a degree sufficient to warrant a good prosecutor asking some mighty tough questions.

    All we need are more than a few brave-hearted men who are also public officials in positions of power and responsibility.

    We have laws. We now need to insist that they are enforced, and not squabble over the exact nature of the murder weapons. We can work that out in the courts.

    That is all.


  247. Seeing all the jewish opposition to Ventura relieves me of any doubts about him I may have had. The jews are going at him like pit bulls here!

    They have a lot of dirt files but they must know something about him I don’t and they are not sharing it with us?


  248. Good post Fix! Do you think Finkestein hates himself or actually hates some of his TRIBE of fellows jews?


  249. Leslie Davis has a hard on for Jesse Ventura because he keeps running for Governor of Minnesota and loses. Evidently Leslie has some money and wishes to spend it fighting to get in to office to “change” things. His smear campaign against a man is what “cost” him his loss. Had he just stuck to the agenda of winning with the truth of what needed to be done in our state, he may have made an impact…now we are in deep shit because Mark Dayton (son of the famed Dayton store owners) has won. A lillie white puzz who will undoubtedly raise our taxes and take away more of our liberties.

    Each day I wake up and see what is happening around the world, I cry. God intended for us all to be free individuals. According to our government now we are just “useless eaters”. I woke up in early 2006 to the sham our leaders portrayed through 911, not wanting to believe they could actually do this to us. The more I read and the more I listened to videos I wanted to puke. It truly made me sick.

    Our America is facing a North American Union, joining forces with Canada and Mexico. They don’t want borders, but they are pushing for amnesty because then all 3 countries will be equal. We will become a 3rd world country like others across the globe.

    Unified health care, controlled farming, controlled pharmacies-eliminating healthy vitamins, minerals and herbs, controlled airport restrictions, controlled foods we eat, poisoning our waters with flouride, poisoning our foods with aspartame, using hormones to make cows produce more milk, to make chickens get plumper, spraying the skies with poisons like barium, cadium, mercury, arsenic, etc., controlling our weather patterns-using HAARP to create storms, earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, etc., using marxist czars to decide and dictate the rules over us civilians.

    Having a puppeteer run our government who in this lameduck session wants to regulate the internet, push for amnesty, push S510 so families can no longer have home gardens, push “the elites” AGENDA 21, poison the people living on the gulf shores with corexit and its benzene.

    There is a coming revolution and it won’t be a pretty sight…

  250. The average IQ is neither low nor high, but there’s no question that our educational system has been dumbed-down, starting already by the mid-50s in the U.S.

    Beyond that, critical thinking skills have been eroded by the fluffy, scruffy nonsense on TV, in the movies, and in our culture.

    Reportedly, even Ike was astonished to learn that half the American public had below-average IQs, so there you are.


  251. Denny, so you talk about the derivation of your name without acknowledging that Reece is correct, you are a jew of of German jewish ancestry?

    Wow! That is a criminal threat against Reece as far as I’m concerned. Apparently you are not concerned about making criminal threats on VT?

    Is that a terms of service violation Gordon? Are you so tight with Baum as he suggests that you are going to allow him to make criminal threats on the VT site? Perhaps we are getting close to finding out what VT is really all about????

    Are you a criminal Baum?


  252. MK, you are exactly right MK. I think the laws are in place, they just haven’t been enforced.

    “Our” leaders, such as Liberman and literally thousands of others have allowed the foreign country, Israel to have full blown access and control over the USA phone system, including even the FBI’s wire tapping operations by such companies as Amdocs and Comverse Systems who keep changing their names because some of the goyim are wising up.

    Our entire judiciary, law enforcement, intelligence, military and trade policy functions has been completely compromised by a foreign government under the phony “best friends” rationale and under cover of the “antisemite” charge.


  253. After doing some research, I agree with J. Bruce. Leslie haven’t you figured out why your never elected as Mayor or Governor. You must have a busy team cutting and pasting the same smear add on many website’s on the internet.

    At some time in future, you might figure out the only one being smeared is yourself.

    I want an apology from you for placing garbage on this website.

    P.S. Don’t forget that apology.

  254. What really happened from 2000-2008? There were many questionable events, but does result tie to the beginning, that’s the real question?

  255. Kate,

    It’s two fold.

    1. 911
    2. Missing funds from Federal Reserve and other (offshore accounts)?

    (1) may point to (2), and (2) may point to (1). That’s why investigation of both are necessary, and being blocked?

    On another subject..

    What actions would be required to accomplish the Largest Bank Heist in history? This would take several years and organization, and processes and procedures required to monitor chatter, and leaks? If someone obtained information regarding the heist, or associated, how to process these people. This would require extreme measures, and ability to deny activity.

  256. I have gambled, during last administration.

    Because it’s worth the safety of our soldiers during wartime. It’s worth the security of the American people and The United States. If technology was provided to country that could be passed to another, and ultimately place our soldiers at risk.

    What would you do?

    If Federal Agency was concerned enough to attempt to stop this activity, and presented evidence at the highest level? Then were told to stop their investigation, and ignore company. The company hired someone from the high level officials family.

    What would you do?

    After the investigation was stopped, more advanced technology was passed that was of greater risk then previous.

    What would you do?

    And if veteran (2/75th Ranger – Counter Terrorism) and engineer who assisted investigation, starting receiving threats from contractor’s and company who passed the technology, Federal Agency told to stand down.

    What would you do?

    A Lt. Colonel Wayne Downing years ago taught me these values, who later become General Downing. He would have said, “You made the right decision.”

    I know this, and that’s all that matters.

  257. Listen Carefully,

    I hope you don’t object to a sincere debate on this important matter.

    I am ambivalent on the Flt77 hitting the Pentagon story for a number of reasons. One certainly is Mike Rivero who truly believes a plane DID hit as advertised and (this is important,umm….actually REALLY important) he, Rivero believes THE reason they are sitting on video from the 32 CCTV cameras, is to ultimately ridicule the entire 911 truth movement if it gets, as it now seems likely, very hot and bothered. When that point is reached they show the footage, the mangled corpses and body parts bits of the airliner etc etc.

    Get his point?

    It would make all of us look like absolute clowns were that to happen. They would use their media weapon to ridicule and completely de-legitimize us

    The other reason I’m uncertain of what happened is because of a pesky medical man, a Dr, Olmstead from LA.

    He used the FOI act to get the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) to release information on THE AUTOPSY they claimed to have performed on the remains of Flt77. It took him a very long time, but finally they relented and gave him what he required.

    AFIP claimed they identified every individual on board using DNA. Olmstead wanted their list of the names of those persons AND he wanted to know if there were FIVE ARAB bodies among the carnage.

    AFIP provided him with the list which was EXACTLY the same as the Airlines PASSENGER LIST with the exception of a small female child presumed to belong to a couple on board. But they found NO ARABS, no five unidentified bodies in the plane’s wreckage!

    No dead Arabs on the mortuary slab?

    So, if the event occurred as advertised who was flying that plane? Is it possible remote control technology was installed in such a way as to override the Pilot and that it DID HIT THE PENTAGON. Indeed, did AFIP actually perform and Autopsy?

    See my point?

  258. One of the black boxes for FLT 77 “PROVED” that the pilot’s door was never opened, so the story told by Bush’s assistant Olsen that his wife Barbara Olsen called from the plane and said the pilots and passengers had been herded to the back of the plane was untrue. They found that the calls from Ms. Olsen did not occur.

    I read somewhere that the people on the planes were flown to Canada. Who knows after that?

  259. Actually Doug, the people working in the investigative offices that you refference were ther investigating what happened to the 1.1 or 1.2 Trillion that Dov Zakheim was already under the gun for “losing”. They uncovered the additional 2.3T that Rummy reported missing the total is close to 3.5 Trillion. Befor leaving the pentagram Zakheim also surplused a whole shitload of spare US military hardware and sold it to Isreal cheap. Dov is now a rabbi.

  260. Hello J. Bruce Campbell,
    I wrote my book about Jesse Ventura because he is a liar and a cheat who hurt Minnesota and many people and I have the facts to prove it. The facts were obtained from affidavits, news stories, and sworn testimony. I live in Minnesota, I am Jewish, and I am an environmental activist. However to characterize me as a Jewish activist doing a typical ADL (anti defamation league) smear job is untrue and deceitful. I am not ashamed to be Jewish but I represent only Leslie Davis, not the ADL, not the State of Israel or any other entity. I am my own man, a veteran, and a grandfather and I will look for your apology in your next post. Also, email me your address and I’ll send you a complimentary copy of my book. [email protected]
    P.S. Don’t forget that apology.

  261. Another poster on a similar story said the actual amount stolen was over $4 trillion. The audit conducted on the loss had not been finished. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 trillion missing. The Pentagon Comptroller at the time was Dov Zakkeim, a Jew who was never even investigated, must less jailed. He owned a company which produced “remote control” systems for airplanes.

  262. Cantor-Fitzgerald was also holding the paperwork on a huge amount of gold borrowed from the Chinese 70 years ago and payable back to them with interest the following day, Sep 12, 2001. Bush Sr. was involved with the gold payment and I think Bush’s Carlyle Corp. was involved.

    A vault full of gold was stolen from the basement of the WTC during 911.

    The owner of the WTC building was going to have to do asbestos remediation prior to 911. Saved him a lot of money,.

  263. Exactly why the target group is so low Mike. Although, do you ever find yourself amazing at how low the average IQ is? Well that means that half of the people are waaay lower than that. You don’t reach these folks with big words or complicated sentences.

  264. One interesting theory about the WTC and # 7 is that their effect is to be a distraction, using up years of investigation (it is working) whilst the true target was the Pentagon accountants investigating teh laundering of gold stolen from various countries, including ‘holocaust’ gold.

    For the thesis search; E-P-Heidner-911-commission-report-revised-december-2008. There is tha main report and two smaller reports referred to as ‘collateral’ and ‘collateral 1’.

    The thesis puts the persons behind 9/11, as the bankers who wanted to cover up what they had been doing with the intelligence agencies since the 2nd WW. Cantor Fitzgerald was a key CIA bank launderer and had to go. (excepting the bosses who were playing golf on 9/11)

    In the report/s reference is made of the Nugan Hand Bank in Sydney…. believe what Heidner says about it and add; that a Murray Farqhar, ex chief magistarete (dec0 in NSW was charged with conspiracy to steal Phillipines gold bullion in about 1982. It all just disappeared, but remember to be charged with conspircay means that there was/were at least another/s involved. Anyone know who it was?

    Follow the money!!

  265. Wow, you sure touched some nerves Gordon. Again, thank you for tackling this difficult subject. I saw the show, it was spiced up for the TV audiences but it made sense. Jesse Ventura is not perfect and may spout some bullshit, who doesnt. But… you have got to be tough to be an underwater demolition team member, A professional wrestler, a governor and father and husband. He has been married a long time and that takes patience and work. Back to the issue..There just wasn’t much wreckage and the testimony from the woman who worked in the Pentagon was powerful. the government will not release any of the numerous videos of the attack on the pentagon. The Pilots for 911 truth are unanimous in their analysis of the difficulty in flying a large jet with such accuracy into the ‘investigative offices’ addressing the missing 2.3 trillion. Someday a jury of our peers will address these issues. It is only a matter of time…..until then, Peace and Justice in the New Year. Best Wishes, Doug

  266. The single jet jet engine of a cruise missile or its depleted uranium penetrator will make a round hole. Because of their speed they are hard to see except when launched.

  267. He is confused, he thinks he is on the Weakly Non-Standard B.S. site, or on Soft Ball tv with Chris Matthews who helps the spread their Defamation.


  268. You will never loose buying one ounce of pure silver now—buy canadian maple leafs. Not long from now you will wonder (and kick yourself) for not buying more!



  269. Larry, once the shill shills he will always be a shill, no matter how much he tries to ingratiate himself into Patriot society.


  270. Also, I am not sure but I don’t think an exploding missile makes a round hole. The round hole in the wall of the Pentagon was made by an airplane engine or perhaps a shaped charge.

    Regarding the damage to the interior of the Pentagon, did the Mossad put explosives in that part of the building during that section’s renovation which occurred shortly before the 911 attacks?

    Did the vast majority of the missing Pentagon two trillion dollars go to Israel? Did the plane hit that portion of the Pentagon to destroy the evidence? I don’t know if he was involved but I would like to ask Rabbi Dov Zakheim a few questions.

  271. thank you for making us aware of the identities of these that seek to diseminate mis-info, and they seem so full of hate…

  272. Larry the Dick succeeded in nothing but giving everyone a good laugh about how pathetic, obvious and ineffective he is. AIPAC or the USA government should cut off his paycheck ASAP. He is useless except as a clown!

    Why don’t you have some dialog with him John? When he talks you are silent and vice versa!


  273. That seems extreme but isn’t that exactly what the zionist jews and “neocons” and Israel’s (BiBI NuttyYuHu) want the USA military to do to Iran right now?????????????

    And Iran hasn’t attacked us but Israel has attacked the USA repeatedly————Lavon affair, The Liberty Attack and NY, 911????
    Dr. Alan Sabrosky said the Israel Mossad did 911, it is 100%, period!!!

    They used to say what is good for the goose is good for the gander?? Isn’t that true any longer? What say the silent American jews out there who allow AIPAC to spy on America day in and day out????


  274. That seems extreme but isn’t that exactly what the zionist jews and “neocons” and Israel’s (BiBI NuttyYuHu) want the USA military to do to Iran right now?????????????

    And Iran hasn’t attacked us but Israel has attacked the USA repeatedly————Lavon affair, The Liberty Attack and NY, 911????
    Dr. Alan Sabrosky said the Israel Mossad did 911, it is 100%, period!!!

    They used to say what is good for the goose is good for the gander?? Isn’t that true any longer? What say the silent American jews out there who allow AIPAC to spy on America day in and day out????


  275. As Gordon and others here have alluded to, this site gets hacked. I’ve had the same problem that you mentioned.

    My experience is that the weekends are an “iffy” time to post. When I want to add a comment, I type it into a text editor and save it. Then I copy and paste it into a reply box. If it takes, then I’m all done. If it doesn’t, then I wait for a day or so, load the text back into the text editor, and do a copy-and-paste again.

    Yes, it’s a pain. However, it is not the fault of the folks who run this site.

  276. Go to YouTube and search for “The Dumbing Down of America.”

    You will find several short videos there, that lay it out.

  277. That has been my experience too Fix! Yoav Shamir’s Israeli grandmother, in his movie “DEMAMATION” agrees with us too! She says “where are the antisemites”? “In America?” “Why don’t they come to Israel if it is so bad in America (becuase of antisemitism” ) ??????????


  278. And the jewish “investment advisors” of America are telling their Sheeple clients to stay away from GOLD AND ANTISEMITES!



    New World Order
    SAND N_ggers from Mooselim countries.
    George Bush and Dick Chaney acting alone with only the help of the devil.
    Bohemian Grove Nudists
    Mary Tyler Moore
    Helen Thomas
    David Duke
    Sabateans Jews who do not eat Gifilte fish.
    Otto The Orkin man (bug killer)

    (CIA MADE EM DO IT???????)

    Anyone appearing in the Defamation League files under “We Hate”:

  280. I am boycotting WALMART and most chain stores due to Homeland Security’s videos. We can bankrupt Buffett by boycotting Coca-cola products. I’m boycotting GE products for the Tea Party. To bankrupt JP Morgan, buy 1 oz. of silver (about $30) and ask friends to do the same.

  281. It reminds me of the story of the devil trying to sell the material world and all it’s glory to Jesus Christ, unsuccessfully.


  282. Your comments sound like the “real” thing re: the Bushes, and are intriquing. Ever thought of writing a short e-book? MK wouldn’t stand for “ultra”, I hope.

  283. Gordon, Rabi Dickerson wants to be your teacher but your higher commitment to the truth and reality is no doubt frustrating to him.


  284. You are right they didn’t perpetrate 911. The Zionists hate between Christians and Muslims. BUT Americans still have to STOP the courts using Sharia Law in this country, which they’ve already done at least twice. In addition, the Muslim religion isn’t exactly friendly to us.

  285. I believe Mike Rivero is correct that a plane hit the Pentagon. I have placed plenty of evidence in another post in this article. No need for the foul language.

    I got suspended and probably banned from Pilots for Truth a while back for posting Rivero’s evidence and other evidence that a large plane hit the Pentagon. Pilots for Thruth shut down the whole section so nobody could see my evidence. It was an an alternative theories type section. Pilots for Truth did this because they had just come out with their updated theory with new evidence about what happened at the Pentagon. Pilots for Truth doesn’t care about the Truth, they have an agenda.

    Balsamo got obnoxious.


    I also got banned from there on another occasion for reposting my updated Mossad did 911 text which included plenty of links. One of the monitors used the ridiculous ploy of calling me an anti-Semite. I have to wonder if Pilots for Truth has been invaded by the Mossad or Sayanim.

    911 was masterminded by Israel’s intelligence agency the Mossad.

  286. Whatever the faults of Christianity, one story remains crystal clear; Jesus’s trip to the mountain top with the devil. Every human, including Jews has this experience at one time or another in his life. Jesus turned down the devil’s offer. The devil claimed ownership all the material world so why did he need Jesus to work for him?

    The fact is the devil does not own the world despite outer appearances so he (the devil)needs human accomplices to further his plan of ownership and control.

    George Bush figured what the hell if millions of ragheads and sand N_ggers die, not to mention Americans, the devil owns the world anyway.


  287. Thanks Reece, I get your drift and appreciate and agree with your comments. As a kid the thought came to mind that Christianity may be a trick on the gentiles by the jews?

    I have concluded in recent years if that thought which came to mind was /is the truth, this trick of the jews has backfired in their face.

    The real message of Jesus Christ shines through as far as I’m concerned and is poison to the jewish supremacists. The best laid plans of mice and men, including jewish supremacists often back fire in completely unwelcome outcomes. I’ve seen too often in real life , close up and personal, jewish schemes completely blow up in unwanted, unexpected and undesired results.

    I am not a believer in jewish supremacy, no matter how many people they degrade and assassinate ! There is a God and he will make sure they get their just due. His truth and jsutice works through us.


  288. You don’t actually suspect the “studied” Larry A Dickerstine, would lie of spread disinfo, do you?


  289. Most of the evidence was removed immediately but they missed a lot of unreacted thermite which never falls from heaven by accident. The jewish scrap metal companies were too tight to hire more Mexicans and buy the vacuum cleaners which could have removed this evidence too.

    They never thought the dumb goyim would find and identify this material.


  290. Larry? Why don’t you quit using military terms? I doubt if you ever served in any military with the possible exception as a minor “information” clerk in the IDF.


  291. ps, We are not as ignorant as you think! We know there are many jews who are not jewish supremacists. Norman Finkelstein, for one.


  292. Actually it is aimed at thirty-five year olds who have the maturity level of fourteen years olds, due to their drug and alcohol use in addition to an overdose of zio-radiation emanating from the screen of their babysitters, tv
    s. Also, they didn’t read much when they were in zio-school because they were so “involved” in “sports”!


  293. I’m also experiencing “gangstalking”. I was visiting a stock chart everyday, day trading, and there was a discussion group below the chart. There is a group of CIA mind control/Black Ops working these discussion groups to find new targets. There is money in it for them. They hack trading accounts, make trades, take the money, and then the person who is responsible for the account is left paying taxes on money they never got. They are all in the Masonic brotherhood, and that is who they use on the streets to stalk people they are stealing from.

    Why does Jesse Ventura have Illuminati symbols on his show? Could it be as Ron Paul recently said, that they are far enough along in their plan now that they think they can tell us what THEY are doing? I’m pretty sure they took the world trade towers down with directed energy weapons, not explosive paint. They could easily have hit the Pentagon with the same thing, no bomb or missile necessary.

    Gangstalking is a Masonic Game, it’s the NWO! They are taking over the world using directed energy weapons, mind control, and gangstalking.

    What do you think?

  294. Gordon? You’re not saying there could be “malice” in Larry’s posts,are you? Certainly not “pure malice” as he says of me? DO YOU THINK HE COULD BE A BROWNSHI(r)T (ZIO-NAZI), DO YOU?


  295. 9/11 was a inside job with Mossad knowing all the details and they did not tell America. DESPICABLE FILTH. Gondi said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, they then fight you, THEN WE WIN!

  296. Larry, the unreacted thermite been found and documented.


    Please give us all a link to the DEFAMATION LEAGUE dirt files archive and pass words, so we can read the dirt directly from your files and not gum up VT with your garbage.

    Be careful Larry, have you looked up your own file in the DEFAMATION LEAGUE dirt files?????????


  297. Au Contaire? (?) Larry, I believe you are motivated by love of money and are being paid for you pathetic defamation efforts right now by the USA government, which is now totally controlled by jews.

    I highly doubt you are even that loayl to the TRIBE, truth be known.


  298. Larry still wants to be the VT “moderator” (deleter). He is so prudent, intelligent and well informed——until he gets worked up—–and then he is a nasty MF!

    I spotted him a mile a way. I have known jewish supremacists personally.
    I think it is you not me who is “pure malice” and a brown shirt (zio-nazi)”. No doubt you have applied to Homeland Insecurity for the FEMA camps superintendent position since you didn’t get the reader’s moderation job at VT!!!!!!!!!

    How is your “South African friend” who accused me of “pure malice” doing. I think he is actually “pure malice” . Maybe you are actually your South African “friend”. I know some psychopaths who have imaginary friends too! I doubted you have any real friends, as your associates would be better described as fellow gang members, accomplices!


    ps I still like American Militias!!

  299. Mike Rivero is a good guy and you can trust his views on most things, except he thinks he is qualified to talk about cosmology and he probably is not, and he seems to be stuck on the NO PLANE AT THE PENTAGON theory way, way past the point where there is anything left supporting that view. Almost anyone above room temperature willing to put in a few days examining the possibilities would know that. I have been telling him this for some years now, and repeated it while returning his season’s greetings just yesterday. It seems to be a Rivero ego glitch. Best to ignore it, especially in light of the fantastic work he has done for 9/11 truth. And thanks to you, too, Pilots for Truth, for your good work.

  300. Larry, I have little doubt Ventura could choke you to death with his bare hands. You perhaps would be better off if you remained in the darkness and shadows, behind the curtain.


  301. Larry, are you the curator of the DEFAMATION LEAGUE dirt files? You folks have the the dirt on almost anyone I see, in addition to Jesus Christ, I know, you folks say “his ma was a ho”! I don’t care if his ma was a ho. I know some really good people whose ma’s were hos.


  302. This pathetic Davis is such an obvious Sh_t slinging shill, I almost feel sorry for him. And who said the jews are so “smart”?????? Their collaboration is their power not their brains.



  303. It seems like the hacking has not slowed down the march of real American patriots out of the closet!!!!!!!!!!

    I am nevertheless reading ALL THE GOOD JUMBLED COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!

    Are Americans ready to start taking real concrete action against the jewish new world order proponents?

    BUY AMERICAN CAST IRON ENGINE POWERED CARS ONLY—-NEW OR USED. Even though most of the parts for the Ford cars are made in China, Ford is still an American corporation, founded by a true American patriot Henry Ford. Make sure the Ford you buy is powered by a cast iron engine, the 3.0 liter for example.

    Though GM is a zionist entity, buy only their cars powered only by the cast iron 3800 engine which last forever and are better than any foreign junk. The 3800 is even better than the Ford cast iron engines.

    Don’t worry, the American mechanics will adapt to working on American cast iron engines.





  304. Sherman Skolnick, (deceased good Jew) and Christopher Bollyn did a good job exposing the “emanuel” family. has some stories, if I’m not mistaken.


  305. Beware especially of any “law enforcement” who have ever taken a “free” trip to Israel. I have recently come across an African American female who is from a major crack dealing family who operates in my town (and yours—very mobile professional criminals) who has also taken a free trip to israel from someone. Her son now wears a gold star of david which he tells his “crack hoes” means “MAN”. I think they have been just as active cultivating American criminals with “free” trips to israel as they have taking American “law enforcement”, “christians”(with a small “c”) and “legislators” on free trips to their Un-Holy” Land.

    They know that cultivating disaffected Americans to their influence is a good way of sewing chaos in the USA as well as a good way of making money.

    They have been for a long time trying to establish VT as a racist “KKK” site (Larry Dickerson) when there is not even a hint of racism against Black Americans on this site.

    The real racists are the jews themselves. Read the talmud at They would like nothing better than seeing White and Black Americans fighting each other in the USA.


  306. Hitler promoted the “people’s car” (Volkswagen), Jews invented the “people dozer”, customized Merkava tank. The world’s foremost bullies!


  307. This programme was about what took place at the Pentagon. It asked all the right questions and gave the, to me, correct answers. It was a programme for those who were not already familiar with the details of what happened on that day, it was on mainstream T.V. – and it named names! In my opinion, it was brilliant and I think it is going to a give quite a few people some sleepless nights. I think most of us know by now who’s pulling the strings, but one step at a time.

  308. When they come out into the light from behind the darkness of their curtain,
    most are creepy crawlers, afraid of their own shadows. They hope American Blacks will do a lot of their dirty work.


  309. Maybe there is something in the hate crimes legislation that we the people can use to indict even the smallest voices of the lies. When my son comes home from school and sees afghan people (Muslims) on TV and remarks, “they are all terrorists”. I immediately asked him who and he said, “they all where bomb vests and blow up people”
    He tells me that they teach this story in school, they tell this official story. I want to do something. Can someone help me on what steps I can take, where can I start. These 19 hi-jacker story has no weight and nobody has been officially charged. How can they condition us in such a way that when you see a building implode they say it came down on its own. Or, when Kennedy’s head goes backward they still tell you that the bullet came from behind. I am so sickened at the high crimes that are continually being done to us. Where do we start?

  310. It’s a little hard to follow Alex Jones after I heard him state israhell is innocent of anything. His reward for being a shill will be his own insanity.


  311. “They spelled out the master plan for “Securing The (Jewish Supremacist) Realm” in the early 90′s

    Actually, it was about 1897, First Zionist Congress

    I believe at least one speaker at that gathering was already bragging about “the future world war,” we got Picasso instead of Klimt, and the stage was being set for the events which would play out on the world stage during the 20th century. Check it out.

    As for Ventura: he’s a bit of a blowhard, but don’t we all have our own strong suits and weak? It is always foolish to discount any information strictly because of its source.

    It seems to me that Mr. Ventura is lobbing his shells in the right direction. Better to focus on the known enemy than taking potshots at allies.

    The Dancing Israelis (AKA Weehawken Five)are a curious affair. At least one is on record stating on Israeli TV that they were there “to document the event,” which requires foreknowledge.

    At the same time, their actions as reported seem geared to attract attention, and are themselves, therefore, a possible diversion, or red herring. Otherwise, it’s all brazen chutzpah, perhaps based on the certain knowledge that, even if caught, they had nothing to worry about. And so it went.

    And so it goes.


  312. And I thought the big “G” stood for God—–what an idiot I am. I agree with everything I have read by Pike but have never read those explanations. Not the same explanations of the allegory and symbolism I have read in any Masonic book or in any ceremony. When will they bring out the big guns and explain the evil to me? When I go”above” George Washington and Henry Ford and learn the 666TH degree?


  313. you keep saying duplicate comment,when you are censoring opinion does not fit into your agenda i believe.

  314. jesse ventura is a true hero,i would present him with the medal of honor for his work on conspiracy theories.i am not anti-jewish,only an anglo-saxon american and fully disabled nam vet.i am fully aware of government cover-ups and what our excuse for a government is fully capable of.gordon and ventura better watch there america the truth can kill you.we are no better than some countries that we are so critical of.i especially liked the way jesse exposed wall street and bravely crashed the billionair boys club meeting.i will never get it are americans that apathetic and complacent,or are they just plain stupid.if you give a dog a bone,you have made a loyal friend.if the economy completely collapses, you will have chaos and revolution in its worst forms.

  315. Wait one year or so, battery technology needs further development. Tesla is best developer for electric vehicle, will take more time for new facility and model in production.

  316. Sad, but true.

    There is enough irrefutable evidence out in the open to warrant convening a grand jury. Any honest, dedicated prosecutor should be able to make mince-meat out of the 9/11 liars.

    A short sampler:

    Bush “The TV was obviously on.”

    Cheney “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”

    —–Myers confirmation hearings————

    LEVIN: Was the Defense Department contacted by the FAA or the FBI or any other agency after the first two hijacked aircraft crashed into the World Trade Center, prior to the time that the Pentagon was hit?

    MYERS: Sir, I don’t know the answer to that question. I can get that for you, for the record.


    Garvey “No one could imagine someone being willing to commit suicide, being willing to use an airplane as a lethal weapon.”

    Rice “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.”


    “What was Rumsfeld doing on 9/11? He deserted his post. He disappeared. The country was under attack. Where was the guy who controls America’s defense? Out of touch!” –A senior White House official

  317. Over half our Congress and Senate is guilty of treason. We should demand they be put on trial, and if found guilty, immediately taken out and shot as an example to the rest of the politicians and Zionist stooges. Our government is Israeli occupied territory. Our country has been destroyed. Americans are now Israeli slaves. We fight Israel’s wars, we give Israel our wealth.

  318. Leslie’s description of Jesse ventura “Liar, Briber, Bully, Phony.”Are you trying to tell us that Jesse Ventura is a Zionist?

  319. Ross,

    You’re right on the money.

    Ventura is dumb like a fox.

    “Things are not always what they seem,” cuts both ways.

    “It takes a lot of money to look this cheap.” – Dolly Pardon

  320. Not pointing at any one specific comment, only saying that reading through the comments I got the idea that some places would make a stronger clearer point by using the words ‘xionist’ and ‘jew’ to mean separate things, and not blur the distinction.

    Zionist and Jew are like Mormon and Christian, maybe.
    Zionism is about 300 years old, Jewish is about 3000 years old.
    Mormonism is about 170 years old, Christianity is about 1700 years old.

    Zionists try to hide in (camouflage?) and gain ‘legitimacy’ or ‘veneration’ among Jews. Zionists are eager to blur the distinction and confuse the difference between Zionism and Judaic traditions.

    Really, the Jews’ worst enemy is Zionists, maybe. (I copied that line from Christopher Bollyn’s website book, a section heading: “Zionism — ‘The Real Enemy of the Jews’.”)

    There is a small percentage of ‘bad’ Jews, I suppose, (and I also can cite), but I can’t think of any ‘good’ Zionists.

    It is not a small point, but it is a simple point, and very important to be clear in thinking and writing about. Zionism =/= Jewish.

    (And Israeli is another matter. Sort of: Israeli is to Jew is to Zionist, as American is to Christian is to Mormon … maybe Southern Baptist Evangelical would be a more appropriate choice than Mormon. Anyway, the comparison is not a perfect similarity or alignment, it’s just to illustrate that the words are not interchangeable, the groups are distinct and different, and at the same time, there is some overlap.)


  322. Gordon great article, I noticed in the comments here the mention of The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. If you all have not checked it out you should also there is a connection to on that site there is an article Don_Bell_Reports-1970_1993-3100pgs.sml.pdf its worth checking out.


  323. “Phony” UDT/SEAl because he was a reservest?…hay creep, its the same training as Active-And the Same Certifications. this applys as well too the Army’s Special Force’s SOC groups in reserve stat…and just so you know many, many UDT SEAL “Reserves” are called when needed, far more so than you have a need to know or would have access to since you cannot even title respectfully & correctly as Teams ID as, UDT/SEAL. A veterans IS a Veteran in our Country and the American GI Bill paid for his eduication!

  324. “Jesse Ventura
    who gives a crap….so are all your buddys…
    the issue here is 9/11 is a con job why don’t you say something about that Leslie Davis ….get on board don’t be a blind patsy!!!!!!!!!

    wow 415 comments…hit the jackpot on this one !!!!!!!!!

  325. To the right of the image is a group of children — one little boy stares out at the viewer, the others gawk at a demolished building, all rebar and crumbled concrete.

    It’s an ad you’ll be seeing soon on a handful of Metro buses in downtown Seattle.

    A group calling itself the Seattle Mideast Awareness Campaign has paid King County $1,794 so that 12 buses will carry that message around town, starting two days after Christmas. That’s December 27: the two-year anniversary of Israeli attacks on Gaza, aimed at stopping rocket attacks and weapons smuggling.

    The ADL is upset. But:

    King County Metro Transit spokesperson Linda Thielke acknowledges some people will be offended by the campaign, but that is not enough to prevent the rolling billboards from hitting the streets.

  326. If what you say about Ventura is true, it would not surprize me but does that debunk everything so many people are saying about 9/11 and Cheney/Rumsfeld?

    I think Ventura would come over as less of a nut if he were a little less full of himself. I don’t think he is doing a service here. Then again, I never liked Ventura.

    But we should deal with the facts and not get sidetracked by the people voicing them.

  327. OS,
    is there actually alternative energy , advanced(but suppressed),that will be available for us to use, if so can you recommend any books or a direction of study in this regard??

  328. OS,
    not that others aren’t interesting as well,
    I read your stuff with interest,
    go ahead with anything that won’t be a problem for you!!!!

  329. What Larry Dickeson did tonight is an old trick. To discredit a message that is correct and in opposition to your personal agenda, you must make a liar out of the messenger. When you succeed in accomplishing this, the message is often discreted with it.

  330. “and on page 66 he wrote: “In terms of method, the deniers of the gas chambers are the spiritual children of the big Stalinists.”

    All too typical commentary by those to whom I refer as the true “revisionists” (since the truth of a matter is no revision, but rather the falsities purported in place of actual historic occurrences).

    Given that the “Stalinists” were IN FACT, Jews – and most particularly those of the Zionist, genocidal, Talmudic persuasion – it is Finkielkraut and his “ilk” which are the true spiritual children of “the big Stalinists”. They demonstrate that kinship with every vile defamatory, self-deluding, self-exculpatory act of derision against those who expose them for the apologists of crimes against humanity that they are.

    Israel on Iran: So Wrong For So Long
    Justin Elliott — Salon

    Officials at the U.S. Department of State, we learned from the secret cables released by WikiLeaks last week, have serious questions about the accuracy — and sincerity — of Israeli predictions about when Iran will obtain a nuclear weapon … According to various Israeli government predictions over the years, Iran was going to have a bomb by the mid-90s — or 1998, 1999, 2000, 2004, 2005, and finally 2010. More recent Israeli predictions have put that date at 2011 or 2014.

  332. Gee, with that logic, you should actually be on Ventura’s side. Bush Jr. went AWOL and lied about it, is actually still drinking and taking cocaine and lying about it and married his wife to be his BEARD and lies about that, too.

    Bush Sr. lies whenever he opens his mouth.

    I could complete the list with all the people that Ventura named…their lies were enormous compared to what you want to hold against him (which I have actually heard him explain in the past) are just trying to misdirect everybody ala Jim Luntz and the rest of the trained deceivers.


    Summing up the situation at that time, Israeli historian Louis Rapoport writes:
    Immediately after the [Bolshevik] Revolution, many Jews were euphoric over their high representation in the new government. Lenin’s first Politburo was dominated by men of Jewish origins

    Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution, including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists’ vows to eradicate anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the Revolution — partly because of the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet administration, as well as in the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization drives that followed. Historian Salo Baron has noted that an immensely disproportionate number of Jews joined the new Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka And many of those who fell afoul of the Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators.

    The collective leadership that emerged in Lenin’s dying days was headed by the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, mean-spirited, curly-haired Adonis whose vanity knew no bounds.

  334. In Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)

    The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, made much the same point a few months later: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”15

    “The Bolshevik Revolution,” declared a leading American Jewish community paper in 1920, “was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct.”16

    Paying Tribute to Jewish Power
    ‘Ah, How Sweet It Is To Be Jewish …’
    Robert Faurisson
    Alain Finkielkraut is a professor of philosophy at France’s elite Ecole Polytechnique who for years has been a darling of a certain section of the Parisian intelligentsia. In 1982, at the time of one of my first trials for calling the Auschwitz gas chamber story a historical lie, he revealed his concern about revisionism in a muddled work entitled L’Avenir d’une négation (“The Future of a Denial”). On the first page of this book he described me as being “of the ilk of Big Brother,” and on page 66 he wrote: “In terms of method, the deniers of the gas chambers are the spiritual children of the big Stalinists.”

    In 1987 I had a personal encounter with Finkielkraut in Paris’ Latin Quarter, when an anti-revisionist conference was being held at the Sorbonne. Groups of young Jews were roaming the area, on the lookout for potential revisionists. Finkielkraut was with one of these groups. Together with three or four young Jews, he came into the café where I happened to be. I greeted him with the words “They’re done for, your gas chambers!” a rash remark for which I was to pay an hour later. But, at that moment, taken aback, he mumbled a reply and quickly left the café with his friends.

  337. I am Senior Electronics Engineer as well (18 years), so what would you like to discuss. Would you like me to talk right over your head….or do you prefer the basics?

  338. You might want to take a look at which President pushed through Noahide laws for the USA. It was George Bush Sr. He and his kin are actually zionazis, too. regardless what they pretend to be.


  339. Denny,

    Where were you stationed in the US, after war, before? You haven’t said anything, and certainly not intellectual. I was stationed in Ft. Lewis with the 2/75th Ranger Battalion, Lt. Colonel Downing, later General Downing (Special Ops Counter-terrorism).

    Maybe won’t get an answer, because you won’t reply. I personnel believe you have gone over the deep end. Or just not informed, your 100% service connected, to what? Disinformation.

  340. On one hand, I like the fact that VT respects the First Amendment enough to let everybody have their say…on the other, people like Mr. Israel who posted first and Denny Baum, are the biggest part of our problem in the USA Today. There are many countries that would never let their media be owned and controlled by people from other countries–for a reason. Perhaps it is time to enact those laws here, too.



    The Wiesenthal Center has been a major player in what American Jewish scholar Norman Finkelstein calls the “shakedown” campaign by Israel and organized Jewry to extort billions of dollars from European countries and corporations. Finkelstein, author of the bestselling study, The Holocaust Industry, calls the Center “a gang of heartless and immoral crooks, whose hallmark is that they will do anything for a dollar.” / 17

    At a time of belt-tightening by California and other states, with money short for schools and highways, it is all the more outrageous that millions of dollars in taxpayer funds go to support this wealthy bastion of Jewish-Zionist power, and its bigoted, self-serving agenda. The Wiesenthal Center deserves the scorn and contempt of every decent person.

  342. I would sure like to see the evidence that a missile hit the Pentagon. NO WITNESSES CLAIM TO HAVE SEEN A MISSILE SOURING THROUGH THE SKY AT THE PENTAGON OR HIT THE PENTAGON. One witness stated it was an airplane and then stated essentially that it acted like a missile.

    Hundreds of witnesses saw a large airplane flying toward the Pentagon and NOBODY SAW IT FLY AWAY. How did it become invisible?

    Plenty of witnesses saw it knocking down poles while flying very low near the Pentagon and numerous witnesses saw it hit the Pentagon. Air traffic control people were watching the Pentagon plane on radar, NONE OF THEM SAID IT FLEW AWAY. It’s not a Wyle Coyote cutout of the airplane into the building. The wings are made of lightweight material and got pulverized upon impact.

    There are photographs of the wreckage inside and out of the Pentagon.

    They also claim they found the black box. They also claim they have used forensics to identify all but one of the passengers. A very big gamble if they falsified the evidence. Too easy for the plan to fall apart due to testimony.

    The CNN reporter who the “missile crowd” claims said there was no airplane wreckage was completely misquoted. He explains that he saw airplane wreckage at the Pentagon.

    If by some chance the 757 couldn’t handle the stress, which is disputed, THEN THERE WAS A PLANE SWAP.

    The government could easily cause huge damage to the 911 truth movement by showing the strong evidence that a large plane hit the Pentagon.

    Photographs taken by Sara Roberts.

    McIntyre CNN reporter:

    I could see parts of the airplane that crashed into the building, very small pieces of the plane on the heliport outside the building. The biggest piece I saw was about three feet long, it was silver and had been painted green and red, but I could not see any identifying markings on the plane. I also saw a large piece of shattered glass. It appeared to be a cockpit windshield or other window from the plane.

    More McIntyre: I took pictures of some of the wreckage, some of the parts of the fuselage, a part of the cockpit, until they told us we had to move back away from the scene.

    I saw thousands of shards of metal, of pieces of the plane all over the driveway. I didn’t pick up any of them or touch any of them, but I saw them everywhere. And again, took some pictures of them.

    More McIntyre

    I was indicated there was no crash site near the pentagon only at the Pentagon

    Referring to the idea that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon, McIntyre stated, “Having been there on September 11th, having seen the plane wreckage and photographed it myself personally, I can tell you that’s nonsense…Click here for sound clip I had a camera with me, I took pictures of some of the wreckage, some of the parts of the fuselage of …a part of the cockpit, until they told us we had to move back away from the scene…”

    Photographs supporting a large plane hit the Pentagon analysis. The first one includes insightful comments by Michael Rivero:

    The maneuverability of a 757 airplane:

    Compelling eyewitness statements of a large plane hitting the Pentagon:

    I sure wish those who think a 757 couldn’t have made the maneuvers at the Pentagon would junp on the plane swap theory instead of a missile hit the Pentagon theory.


    I know we disagree on this, I still have the email, I hope it’s alright that I make a case here that the Pentagon was hit by a large plane. Perhaps the employees at the Bulgarian vegetable canning facility agree with me. 🙂

  343. Larry,

    Now you’re talking about the “formerly” respected Seal that started the company called “Blackwater”, and was converted into a–hole within several years. Know special group that would enjoy having a piece of that blubber.

  344. Peace is the Absence of All Opposition:

    “You’ll Eventually Volunteer for Local Agrarian,
    Showing You’re a Good Citizen and Communitarian,
    Strange How the Similarities of Soviet Ideal,
    Which Never Materialized Since it was Unreal,
    Are Introduced World-Wide as The Final Solution
    To Claimed Overpopulation and People Pollution,
    Could Those Same Families with Historical Mission
    Who Created Foundations, Gave Us Nuclear Fission
    And Directed Great Wars While Profiting Well
    Be Still Striving to Bring in Their Utopian Hell
    Upon the Whole Earth with People Modified,
    Public Unsuspecting Their Masters Lied,
    Yes, The Goal of These Families won’t Cease or Desist
    Till Their Dark World is Manifest, No Thoughts Exist”

    © Alan Watt Dec. 9, 2010

  345. Knowledge is Power, Part of Equation,
    The Rest Follows from Indignation:

    “Some People Panic, They’re in a Pickle,
    Shop for Religion, Find “New Age Tickle”,
    Those with Much Energy, Begin to Hoard
    All Kinds of Supplies, Going Overboard,
    Natural Responses, When Life’s at Stake,
    Trying to Outrun Plans Masters Make,
    Others Study Agendas, Chilling the Soul,
    Yet Resolutely Seek Truth, the Only Goal,
    Few are Discerning, Discarding all Spin,
    Fewer Still can Handle the Illusion We’re In,
    Be Patient when a Novice Jumps on Ideas
    You Left Behind on the Journey of Tears,
    Don’t Lecture and say “I Told You So”,
    For He was You, a Long Time Ago”

    © Alan Watt Dec. 17, 2010

    Today’s broadcast of the National Intel Report is certain tight and concise. John is solo this afternoon, and his sights are firmly placed of the question of the gulf stream; conflicting evidence that points to extremes. John’s not quite sold on whether or not the Gulf Stream is chugging along, slowing or stopping all together.

    Second hour starts off with a story about two twins that have died within nine hours of receiving a measels vaccination. Peter Neice even pops his head in and submits his comment on how to wield the constitution in small claims court in a case in small claims court in conjunction with a listener calling in and saying how hospitals will fire employees for denying vaccinations.

    Guest: Ron MacDonald

    It’s monday, John is back on the air with Ron MacDonald back as copilot. The guys are covering a pretty huge array of topics all falling under the umbrella of currency and the fed. John also spices the conversation a little by introducing Israel and Zionism into the mix. The guys move into the second hour taking calls and questions.

    Jack begins the first hour reading an article written by Naomi Wolf on the Huffington Post website. The article concerned Senators Joe Lieberman and Dianne Feinstein attempting to invoke the Espionage Act of 1917 against the spokesperson and Editor in Chief of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange. He then reads an article written by Stephen Lendman exposing a hospitol in Haiti run by Israelis that has been harvesting the organs of the Haitian patients.

    We may not have commonality with a person’s politics, religion, occupation, race or other characteristics but we must stand up for his/her right to legal justice, safety from unwarranted search and seizure and freedom from abusive, obedience-trained gun-toting government agents. The Edgar Steele case is not just about one man; it is about every man. We sink or swim together, my friends.





  350. Top 10 “Anti-Semitic” Slurs of 2010Simon Wiesenthal Center
    Center says anti-Semitic canards normally attributed to the lunatic fringe has been bought into by opinion makers in Western Society


  351. Hundreds or even thousands of special people CHOSEN to not show up on 911,a number of offices/businesses that moved out just before 911,including some that had been there 10 years plus!!!!!!!!!!
    (most or all had current leases that did not end until 2002 or later)

  352. just asking,
    magical cellphones
    magical fireproof passports
    magical jet fuel
    magical boxcutters
    magical phantom jumbo jet crashed & vanished at the pentagon
    hundreds of witnesses that contradict the official sham fairy tale
    stand down order
    50 year plus AIR UMBRELLA OVER D.C. THAT WAS INADEQUATE FOR A jumbo passenger airline

    what is it you agree or disagree with??

  353. Larry
    I have no love for Ventura but was impressed by the integrity…that was part of his investigation. I noted the theatrics but, frankly, after living in America under the dictatorial rule of the psychopath Bush, Ventura was refreshing. I put the video online, it speaks for itself and your critique of Ventura using character assassination techniques without speaking to any of the facts is not an effective or credible argument

  354. Larry
    Good thinking. You have TV personality and veteran Jesse Ventura, supported by scientific evidence and credible testimony impeaching the most disreputable and disgusting public figure in the last 150 years, Dick Cheney.
    You side with Cheney.
    You have, of course, noted, as a matter of self awareness, that your belief systems are based, entirely, on you accepting proven lies from corrupt and discredited sources and supporting the collective delusion, one that has led to the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent women and children, out of..well..what?
    …just a thought.

  355. This specialty requires dedication and expertise in demolitions and various diving techniques, high level clearance, and obviously assigned to Seal Team for Special Ops. Everything else stated is simply garbage.

  356. It’s easy to criticize Jesse’s presentation of the information but keeping in mind that most tv is aimed at 12- 14 year olds (part of the dumming down process I guess) I think that this will hit it’s intended audiance. If even a small part of his audiance does a little research or tells a friend it will be very good.

  357. Lawrence A Dickerson,
    thanks for filling the quota for someone to clutter the blog with mis-direction & efforts at discrediting anything constructive and moving in the right direction,detracting,

  358. “Another part of the Global Guardian exercise put three military command aircraft packed with sophisticated communications equipment in the air.”

    “The three E-4B National Airborne Operations Center planes, nicknamed “Doomsday” planes during the Cold War, are based at Offutt.”

    “The airplanes give top government officials alternative command posts from which to direct U.S. forces, execute war orders and coordinate actions by civil authorities in times of national emergency.”

    “Aboard one of the three planes was the Federal Advisory Committee, whose chairman is retired Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft. The plane had been dispatched to bring committee members to Offutt to observe Global Guardian.”

    “Military authorities canceled the exercise after the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, but all three of the E-4Bs remained in the air.”
    (Omaha World, 2/27/02)

    Now, check this out:
    A plane being part of an exercise is by pure chance over the White House only minutes after the Pentagon was hit.
    (It was reported by CNN Sr. White House correspondent John King to the CNN anchor Aaron Brown at 9:52 am)

    Continuing the article about Offutt:
    “All eight giant video screens in the command center were loaded up with data, providing Mies the latest information on the unfolding drama as well as information on the status of America’s strategic forces involved in the exercise.”

    Now, wow they should have had a heck of information. Maybe somebody should talk to NORAD about it…

    And by pure chance also Mr. President arrived later that day (and Warren Buffett had his money raising event where high-ups from the WTC were)

  359. Gordon,I have already answered this.A man willing to lie about one thing is willing to lie about everything.If a person can’t look me in the eyes and tell the straight out truth then they are of no consequence to me except for me to guard my back.

  360. Lawrence,

    One of the most dangerous ops is “Underwater Demolitions”, for your clueless mind when it comes to military operations.

  361. OS,you are reading into what I have not said.I am for a complete investigation and reporting the results to the world.I am not in favor,NO!I disapprove of conspiracy theorists who put the rhetoric of the day without being able to r not willing to share their sources.

    Hell anybody can say anything they want and if they refuse to back up their statements with the big:Who,when,where,what,why and how, they are just talking smack.The sad part of that is that there are many who will believe every word and whisper because they are so naive to believe that everything posted on the internet,newspaper,evening news and magazines is gospel truth.

    Also by failing to print resources and sources we as readers have no way to approve or disprove that same rhetoric.It is cheap journalism no matter who provides it.

  362. Here is a partial lisy of Jesse Ventura’s many lies about being a Navy Seal:

    Cursor research finds Ventura
    not as candid about his navy SEAL
    past as his spokesman claims

    by Cursor Staff
    POSTED DECEMBER 21, 1999–After ex-Navy SEAL officer Bill Salisbury challenged Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura’s SEAL credentials in a December 2nd cover story in the San Diego Reader, available online at, the Governor’s office confirmed that Ventura had been a member of an Underwater Demolition Team (UDT), and not an elite Navy SEAL. But, they argued that because the two entities merged under the SEAL banner in 1983, UDT’s can now refer to themselves as SEALs, even though in Ventura’s case, his active military service ended ten years before the merger occurred–not unlike a former American Football League player saying that he had played in the NFL because the two leagues are now merged into one. Another defense of the Governor was offered by spokesman John Wodele. In a December 14th interview with Minnesota Public Radio, Wodele assured listeners that Ventura never tries to mislead reporters or the public, and that he’s careful to equivocate whenever referring to himself as a SEAL.

    MPR: Ventura’s spokesman, John Wodele, confirms Ventura was in the UDT’s, and he says the Governor has never tried to convince people otherwise.

    Wodele: If you travel with the governor and spend any amount of time with him, he is very forthcoming and accurate in terms of his relationship with the United States Navy. He talks about the fact that he was in the Underwater Demolition Team. In fact, he has corrected me in the past.

    Cursor extensively researched what the Governor has said on the record about his Navy SEAL past, and found that Wodele may be the only person he has ever corrected. In print articles and broadcast appearances, Ventura lets interviewers refer to him as a Navy SEAL, or an ex-Navy SEAL–which they routinely do–without correcting them. He also consistently refers to himself as a SEAL, without explaining the distinctions between SEALs and UDTs. Nowhere in the complete text or transcipts of the following articles, interviews, or television and radio programs, are the words Underwater Demolition Team, or the acronym UDT, ever mentioned.

    Navy SEAL, union member, volunteer high school football coach, outdoorsman, husband of 23 years, father of two.
    Ventura Campaign Ad

    I’m a warrior at heart. I’m an ex-Navy SEAL.
    The New York Times, October 31, 1998

    And Mr. [Hulk] Hogan, I mean he wants to be me, anyway. He always–you know, he pretends to be a Navy SEAL; I was one.
    Meet the Press, November 8, 1998

    You know, I come from a little bit of a military background earlier in my life and we were always taught in the Navy SEAL team never to assume.
    CNN Inside Politics, November 12, 1998

    High Times: Was your wrestling career fun?
    Ventura: It was exciting. And for me, an ex-Navy Seal, it was fun.
    High Times, November, 1998

    Ventura: I’ve been a Navy SEAL.
    Maria Shriver: But, a Navy SEAL makes you ready to be Governor?
    Ventura: Uh-huh. Yeah. Sure it does.
    Maria Shriver: Where did you come up with that?
    Ventura: It’s easy–because I defy–because I worked with things in being a Navy SEAL that could kill me.
    NBC Dateline, December 22, 1998

    I’m also excited–you know, a lot of my old Navy SEAL buddies are here to see me get sworn in today.
    CBS This Morning, January 4, 1999

    I’m the top law enforcement officer in the state of Minnesota. I’m also the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I’m an ex-Navy SEAL team member.
    Meet The Press, February 21, 1999

    Now as a Navy SEAL, I thought “How did they know that about me — how dangerous we truly can be?” We have a saying in the SEALs: we don’t get mad, we get even.
    National Press Club Speech, February 22, 1999

    I’m the head of the state troopers, and the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I’m also a former Navy SEAL.
    CNN Late Edition, February 23, 1999

    Tim Russert: Both your brother–your older brother and yourself, [were] Navy SEALs?
    Ventura: Mm-hmm, yeah.
    Tim Russert: You almost died twice, once as a Navy SEAL and once as a wrestler, with blood clots in your lungs.
    Ventura: Well, I almost died more than that a couple times as a SEAL. That’s only what I told about in the book.
    Tim Russert Show, May 22, 1999

    Last spring I rappelled down from the top of the Target Center before a Timberwolves game. But, you know, I am an ex-Navy SEAL and I was trained for you know, a full year and was very comfortable in that type of rappelling-type thing.
    Larry King Live, May 24, 1999

    I couldn’t care less what a person’s sexual orientation is, and I’m an ex-Navy SEAL.
    The Advocate, May 1999

    First of all, they should understand why a Navy SEAL doesn’t wear underwear.
    CBS This Morning , June 3, 1999

    Larry King: You were a Navy SEAL?
    Ventura: Yes.
    Larry King: What was that like?
    Ventura: Exciting. I did it at 18 years old to 22, 22-1/2. It was challenging. I would belong to no other unit The camaraderie is unbelievable.
    Larry King Live, June 3, 1999

    When I was a wrestler, I could pick up buildings. When I was a SEAL, I could scale them.
    NPR’s Fresh Air, June 3, 1999

    Chris Matthews: When you were a–you were a SEAL, you must have been through amazingly scary moments with life and death.
    Ventura: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
    Hardball with Chris Matthews at Harvard University, October 6, 1999

    You’re talking to an ex-Navy Seal here.
    Playboy, November, 1999.

    I was in the SEALs during the Vietnam War, so I experienced firsthand how we, as Americans, were affected by that conflict.
    Rolling Stone, December 30, 1999

    We’re a proud organization. If anyone tries to pretend they’re a SEAL, God help them.
    Jesse Ventura Autobiography: I Ain’t Got Time to Bleed

    Click here to jump to the homepage.

    Contact Cursor editor for more information on this story.

  363. Lawrence,

    You have absolutely “no idea” what he did in military, and might add, also clueless about any military operations.


    What I really wish to know, is why your against completing the 911 investigations?

    Part of the cover-up are you.

  364. Larry,
    I don’t care about the messenger. We have been waiting for the message for years. If Richard Nixon delivered it, I would thank him.
    g (I am starting to like Nixon more.)

  365. No sweat Gordon,Ventura exaggerated his military claims which makes him less that a man in my eyes and many others.It’s just the wanderlust group here that idolizes anybody who spouts conspiracy theory.If a man will lie about one thing he will lie about everything.So says Confusious and so says Larry.

    As a pro wrestler he well understood the gullibility of his audience even to the point of believing in spite of being shown it is all a ruse to make the money grab.

    If there is one person who actually thinks that Ventura’s actions are pure patriotism then they also believe you.It’s all about the money.

  366. I looked up the FAA Administrator during that time period, whose name was Jane Garvey. The Acting Deputy FAA Administrator was a man named Monte Belger. Their actions and Mineta’s on that day (and everybody else’s) are detailed in the paragraphs 3 and 4 at:

    You can insert the person whose timeline you want to follow at the end instead of Garvey’s.

    I’ve been curious about the “young man” who kept asking Cheney if “the order still stands”. There is some discussion about it at this site, where they believe it was Cheney’s Naval Aide Douglas Cochrane, who is older. It seems to me those people in the room would have “recognized” Cheney’s aid by name rather than calling him a young officer or soldier.

  367. Lawrence,

    I have worked with Navy Seals, Marines, Army SF, Rangers, 82nd, Air force Pathfinders, and many others. The idea you would receive information for every mission for special op is absolutely ignorant.

    So your comment is absolutely ignorant.

  368. And not to name also opens the door for fabrication.I am a long time supporter of journalists using the basics that they learn even in high school,

    6:and How

    Any writer that fails this basic outline is not worth reading.

  369. Lawrence,

    The question is what Gordon stated above,

    Were you on the 911 Commission? Because it seems you’re always moving in circles around the topic, and avoiding real issues.

    Do me a personnel favor, go back and hide in your closet. Your reminding me of the weasel picture several articles ago.

  370. Mike J,

    Yes it’s been hacked, the money people. The ones who made much money from the lies the US people were told.

    They need to keep the old lies in place, to make more money.

  371. larry,
    the fun part…what does ventura’s military record have to do with 9/11? You are saying the evidence he presented, probably less than 1% of what is available and ready to present, no longer exists? Then again, I consider myself a pretty tough boy, for an old shit but when it comes to combat, “pretend” pro wrestling is worse than anything anyone saw in vietnam.
    Two groups I learned to leave alone…professional boxers…middle/welterweights…and professional wrestlers…top rung guys.
    …they will kick your ass

  372. Larry
    Only 38 Seals died during the entire Vietnam War.
    15,000 marines died.
    I would not qualify for UDT.
    However, I do have a Combat Action Ribbon under less than mysterious circumstances.

  373. Jesse Ventura was never a Navy Seal but a UTD.A man’s word is his bond and Jesse Ventura’s word sucks.This entire article much of which was revealed from Ventura’s own office once called on the3 carpet for the lies/

    Navy career
    From September 11, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era, Ventura served in the United States Navy. While on active duty, Ventura was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12 (UDT).[4] The UDTs were merged with the US Navy SEALs in 1983, 8 years after Ventura had left the Navy.

    Bill Salisbury, an attorney in San Diego and a former Navy SEAL officer, accused Ventura of “pretending” to be a SEAL and wrote that Ventura would be blurring an important distinction by claiming to be a SEAL when he was actually a frogman with the UDT. Compared to SEAL teams, UDTs saw less combat and took fewer casualties.[5][6][7] Following that, Governor Ventura’s office confirmed that Ventura was never a member of the SEALs. His spokesman stated that Ventura has never tried to convince people otherwise.[5] Ventura stated: “Today we refer to all of us as SEALs; that’s all it is.”[7]

    Ventura has frequently referred to his military career in public statements and debates.[5][8][9] He was criticized by hunters and conservationists for stating in an interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune in April 2001, “Until you have hunted men, you haven’t hunted yet.”[9][10]

    In January 2002, Ventura, who had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam, disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat. He did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, which was awarded to those involved in a firefight or who went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected.[4]

  374. …And this constitutes a refutation of the very convincing arguments from Mt. Ventura? Smearing the ex-governors reputation (feebly, I might add) while ignoring the mountain of evidence he provides.

    I had posted earlier, that despite being a pilot for over 20 years, there is no way I could have flown a jetliner at high velocity so close to the ground and hit the pentagon. Even at lower speeds than claimed, ground effect would have prevented this feat. The demonstration using a flight simulator is something others should have done earlier.

    Okay, now we now for sure. What are we going to do about it?

  375. PHOTO:


    “Former Davidsonville residents Maj. Gen. David F. Wherley Jr. and his wife, Ann, died from injuries suffered in the Washington Metro Rail accident Monday.”

    “Some will immortalize Maj. Gen. David F. Wherley Jr. as the Sept. 11 commander who mobilized fighter pilots to protect the skies above the nation’s capital. Others will commemorate the highly decorated officer as the former leader of the District of Columbia National Guard.”

    Doesn’t it make you wonder how these JERKS pulled off a train crash that killed just these 2 people?

  376. Bush Sr. and Cheney are Satanists, and they believe they DO have the power to pull off anything they please, BOTH of them! Neither of them have ever looked back. Bush Jr. was concerned for a while, though, that he would be prosecuted.

  377. Well, the Vatican has some explaining to do about their huge money-laundering operation. Of course it’s tied to the U.S. and London. I don’t want to change the subject to THEM, but I would be “completely” embarrassed to stay in a religion where the leader himself covers up pedophelia and the ENTIRE world knows about it. I wouldn’t let my child out of my sight.

  378. Mike:
    I seem to agree with maybe 95% of your comments on this forum but I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe that membership in such a secret society and being a REAL Christian are mutually exclusive.

    The MOST popular definition of Freemasonry states that it is ‘a unique system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols’.

    Albert Pike states within Morals and Dogma [page 631-32] that the Monad [compass] is male, and the Duad [square] is female. Their sexual union produces the Triad, which is “represented by the letter ‘G’, the generative principle.” This term, “generative principle,” is code for the sex act. The other symbols used in masonry such as the five-pointed star and the all-seeing eye also have esoteric and occult meanings.

    As Christian author, Ralph Epperson proves in his book, ‘Masonry: Conspiracy Against Christianity’ , the number one top secret of Masonry is not that they worship Satan/Lucifer; rather, the number one secret of Freemasonry is that they plan to eradicate Christianity in complete fulfillment of End Time prophecies.

  379. Good thing you’re not a general. I’d try to get reassigned. haha! I like the “stealth” method myself – not the old civil war “bayonets at the ready” and total exposure. We need to play THEIR game.


    By Uri Avnery – Israel

    The Judge: ‘You are accused of murdering your wife and two children. How do you plead: Guilty or not guilty?’

    The accused: ‘Your honor, I do not deal with the past. I think about the future!’

    No, not a scene from a comedy. Something very similar really happened. That is how Eli Yishai, the Minister of the Interior, Binyamin Netanyahu and the other nincompoops responded this week to the accusations of gross negligence which resulted in the unprecedented giant firestorm that ravaged large parts of Mount Carmel and caused the deaths of 42 people.

    The epitome of chutzpah was reached by Eli Yishai (Shas). In bygone days, a Japanese minister would have committed harakiri on the very first day of the conflagration. But Yishai addressed the public on the last day and claimed that he was the victim of a lynching because he is “Orthodox and Sephardi”.

  381. Nothing happens because America is DEVOID of law enforcement. They are “all” participating in (or covering up) the government-corporate crimes. This includes the Dept of Injustice, Homeland Insecurity (who have refused to assist AZ via their ILLEGALS database), and don’t know the definition of a “border”.

    The FBI is working hard passing out bomb supplies to “entrap” somebody (anybody) to prove Americans are the “terrorists” they’ve accused us of being, so we’ll have to remove more clothes at the airport. They keep busy infiltrating tea parties, anti-war protests, and political rallies with their $80 Billion Counter-intelligence budget, tapping phones, slashing tires, harassing people on the street. (Wall Street crimes be damned!).

    The courts are an abomination as they’ve always been, judges not following the law, covering up for big-wigs like Obama and his birth certificate, doing whatever they please. This sets “precedent” which in effect “changes” the law.

    Interpol? They put Assange on a Most Wanted List despite his never having been charged with a crime. So…..the U.S. is lawless…for now, until they start arresting LAWFUL folks.

    The military? The top generals are sold out too.

  382. The details are interesting but more than enough is known to empanel a grand jury investigation and charges.


    As to details, I am no stranger to thermite, but was surprised when Chris Bollyn mentioned the possibility of painting a film of thermite on to the bottom of the steel decking pans, that the concrete floors were poured onto, having access through the ceiling tiles on the foor below.

    Recently I came across articles talking about solid state detonators for detonating thin film exothermics.

    well, just said the details are not important in view of voluminous evidence developed by many people—–and here i am talking about all the details!

    sorry, mike

  383. Excellent, LC.

    …but I don’t think it’s good to assume that everyone who’s mistaken about one or more aspects of 9/11 is a shill.

    Divide and conquer.

    There’s so much disinformation and misinformation that even critical thinkers are being fooled.

    But really, it’s not that important to squabble over the details. Get Dick Chaney on the stand, along with Bush, Myers, and Rumsfeld.That should do for starters.

  384. OS,Thanks for your knowledgeable inputs/comments,
    and thanks to the others as well.
    Blackmail for “Titles and Land”.
    However how valid will these claims or assigns for
    Titles and Land be considered by everyone else ??
    Decades of Looting is not considered legitimate to put it mildly!!!!

  385. George Bush and Dick Chaney’s worst crime was selling their souls (if they had any) to the devil. They reasoned why not go along with the jews because they usually get away with their crimes anyway.


  386. Michael Moore’s press/business agent is mossad agent Rahm Emanuel’s brother and is probably a mossad agent himself!





  388. Plus,Jesse Ventura is also trying to reach out to those who have no idea about this,
    plus those who have some idea that the whole 911 Official story SMELLS REAL BAD but not a whole lot more,
    plus for those who are substantially more understanding they have something from “Official Television” they can show to others!!,

    Also, maybe it wouldn’t work if he “spilled out the whole thing” in one
    Presentation,(not that you could spill it all out in one Presentation!!)

  389. ummm…He said the Wall Street Jackals were “vatican controlled”

    All of those subjects you listed are safe kosher approved conspiracy theories. Ventura’s show is dogsh*t disinfo. Conspiracy candyland.

  390. response to Kate and the other people outraged at my comment last night:

    yeah obviously Cheney “was involved”…The Jews have been going balls to the wall to try to pin the whole thing on Bush and Cheney. IT WAS THE FIRST CONSPIRACY THEORY ENDORSED BY MICHEAL MOORE AND HOLLYWOOD. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION…just trying to give people a heads up on the overall plan and psyop. I know it feels good to attack the evil white republicans but they were taking orders from zionist Jew criminals. Lets not lose sight of that.

  391. yeah obviously Cheney “was involved”…The Jews have been going balls to the wall to try to pin the whole thing on Bush and Cheney. IT WAS THE FIRST CONSPIRACY THEORY ENDORSED BY MICHEAL MOORE AND HOLLYWOOD. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION…just trying to give people a heads up on the overall plan and psyop. I know it feels good to attack the evil white republicans but they were taking orders from zionist Jew criminals. Lets not lose sight of that.

  392. You’re just dicking with me – right, Karl? You’re Jewish, your namesake was a Jewish assassin in Germany, but you’re coming off like an anti-Jewish bigot and then as a Jewish hit-man, tying me to my friend John Kaminski with that quote. I’m not familiar with Rick Baker.

    Anyway, this is typical subject-changing, messing everyone’s mind up to divert attention from what was a pretty good explanation by Listen Carefully about What Really Happened at the Pentagon.

  393. JohnG , I still remember your attack on me stating “you have insight into nothing” and that I “insulted the jewish race a thousand times” and I (volz) is am a “jew baiter”.

    JohnG, I still think you are probably a shill, despite the things you have said on which I agree.


  394. Agreed Reece,

    The outlines of the shadow government in America have become clearer and clearer in recent years but do explain much of the Monkey Business which has been going on. Perhaps in the beginning this government was somehow “American” and no doubt some of those who participate may incorrectly think it is “American” or in the best interests of America.

    We would like a black and white answer but in fact the very nature of a shadow is the shades of gray and indistinct outlines.

    I have no doubt however that the impetus and instigators is/are jewish supremacy and economic criminal activities. I doubt if they have missed one bid from the US government regarding the fake war on terror or the insecurity
    business, much less capturing US government jobs relating to the Monkey Business. They have burned both ends to the middle in every concievable and diverse way. They certainly have made hay while the sun is shinning. THEY ARE THE WORLD’S ULTIMATE OPPORTUNISTS.


  395. Fix, that is my opinion and analysis too. Who cares if nukes and or thermite were used——- the planes did not bring the towers down.


  396. They were liars from the beginning and Bush was a scapegoat from the beginning. He should fry a little but I’m sure he is just looking forward to his retirement in Patagonia if worse comes to worst.


  397. Sounds like most of us here agree on Ventura, in general, Kate. I recoil each time I hear talk implying that some how the American people are a fault here. The instigators are always jewish, though they have hired, bribed, fooled, and blackmailed legions of gentile accomplices and dupes.

    They spelled out the master plan for “Securing The (Jewish Supremacist) Realm” in the early 90’s.


  398. Wolf,

    No Mason is of a “higher” level than that of “Master Mason”, the third degree. “Master Mason” is the “highest” level with respect to “full membership” and “command and control”.

    Under current membership practices, a man can go from “entered apprentice” which is the first degree, to “Scottish Rite” which is the thirty second degree in one day, at a coliseum with thousands of other Masons. The higher degrees are levels of “enlightenment” rather than command and control and the whole “organization” is a fraternity and fellowship, not an army like hierarchy.

    In my opinion, most American men today don’t have time to fool with the Masons as they are busy in their pursuit of beer, sex, sports and themselves as advocated by the jewish owned mass media for personal fulfillment.

    My great-great-grandfather was a thirty-third degree Mason, as was George Washington and Henry Ford, two of my great heroes. The Thirty-Third Degree is an honorary degree, not a “command and control” degree (position). Your information seems highly inaccurate to me and is only supported by such people as Henry Makkow, who I do not recognize as an authority on anything, though I agree with his opinions on many subjects.

    Furthermore I have seen no indications from anyone in the historic literature who has recognized that the Knights Templar or the Knights of St John of Jerusalem (Knight of Malta) are/were jewish organizations, not Christian.

    The principle tenet and prerequisite for being a Mason is “belief in God”. Considering they are so busy building and operating so many free, non-profit specialty hospitals (Shriner Burns) and low cost, high quality rest homes, after a good bit of socializing and parading as Shriners, I find it difficult to believe and have seen no evidence of them subverting the best interests of the American people.

    I cannot reconcile the idea of the Masons being an evil force and though the DEFAMATION LEAGUE will disagree with me with respect to Henry Ford; I don’t believe Henry Ford or George Washington would have participated with the Masons were such an evil force as you state.

    I have no doubt that this organization may have been misused or attempted to be misused by certain forces, but in general, I believe your synopsis of them is unfairly defamatory. They may have served as a unofficial civil framework for transition to the American government before, during and after The American Revolution, which I believe in general was a good thing.


  399. Where is the OUTRAGE? The evidence is there for Americans to read & do something, but still nothing happens.

    Just read a new book that’s a thriller & so real about Americans taking a stand against federal tyranny/martial law. It’s a must read…giving it out this Christmas cause it’s a must read about each of us.

    Just read it & see if our destiny is not there. Great article w/so many responses. The outrage is there, but still nothing happens.

  400. Leslie Davis is a Jewish activist in Minnesota. His posting is a typical ADL smear job to create scorn and revulsion for political enemies. Jesse Ventura is coming dangerously close to revealing the truth about capital crimes committed by Israelis and American Zionists. He needs to be stopped by the tried and true Jewish method of defamation.

  401. I’ve read that Bush Sr. still “effectively” runs the CIA (named after him) and its assassination squads. I’m sure he and Cheney were eager to see who was on their trail.

  402. I don’t know how it works from your end, but I would have one person be responsible for emailing one or more of your stories each day to compatible internet sites for posting. The readership would soar. That’s how I first started reading here.

  403. Good point JB. I don’t blame commentators here for wishing to remain anonymous, but rest assured the shills are not identifying themselves.


  404. Sheeple is just a very apropos term for describing the existence of a largely ignorant body of people. It should not be derogatory as it is not immoral or criminal to be ignorant, just a fact of life.

    Many sheeple are not actually ignorant but scared to death of “their” government and the jews who run it. Their fear is completely logical.


  405. Rivero is no shill! Anyone can be mistaken. Getting lost in the minutiae


  406. We agree on Mike Gordon and anyone who has not read him should read him and his archives. Only the pope is infallible.

    I have been reading Mike since shortly after 911, he has been a foremost leader in the 911 truth movement. If he is speculating about something, don’t dismiss it too quickly.


  407. People have said Chaney is on the mossad payroll and i believe that is probably true. A traitor has no country so what is the significance of Chaney country of birth? Only sheeple see that as an indication of anything.




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    Ventura intros his truTV show by lying about being a Navy SEAL.
    He wasn’t a Navy SEAL and the picture he shows is from the movie Predator.

    Facts you should know about Jesse Ventura from my book “Always Cheat”

    – Ventura lied about being a Navy SEAL on active duty. He joined the SEAL Reserves after active duty. (Page 102).
    – He lied about being in Vietnam and being in combat. He told Dennis Anderson of the Minneapolis Star Tribune that “you haven’t hunted until you’ve hunted man”. The only man Ventura may have hunted would have been in a Minneapolis bookstore.
    – Bribed a candidate on July 17, 1998 in order to run unopposed in the Reform Party. Call for free video of the bribe.
    – Fixed the investigation of the July 1998 by bribing Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner with a job for her boyfriend John Wodele as his Communications Director.
    – Told single moms that they were on their own.
    – Told students in a speech at the Univ. of Minnesota to “win if you can, lose if you must, but Always Cheat”.
    – Insulted people who were religious or mentally ill.
    – Killed caged birds at a game farm with Maria Shriver.
    – Endorsed “torture” of people at Highway 55 where 600-law enforcement (the largest police action in Minnesota history) arrested peaceful protesters trying to prevent demolition of homes for a road. Many protesters were handcuffed behind their backs and had pepper spray put in their eyes (Page 4).
    – Ventura took government money to go to school in Hennepin County and later told students that if they were smart enough to go to college they should be able to figure out how to pay for it.

    Jesse Ventura

  410. richard meyers is jewish according to some—

    the jews shut that site down but cia can’t touch asstrang????


  411. Ventura’s mini-documentary was about whether or not a JET hit the pentagon. Ignore everything else about who caused it or why it happened. Hell, pretend it was a different building…whatever. His main argument is that a rocket or a bomb put the hole in the pentagon. It seems too convenient really. I fixed planes for 10 years and to be THAT accurate when hitting a building is absurd. You would also see debris of the jet, a wing, or an engine. Additionally, the impact looks like a rocket strike. I will believe the women in the army saying it sounded like a bomb. Once you have heard a bomb you know it’s a bomb, just like you know an jet engine when you hear it. (i actually would like someone to ask what people heard before the explosion)

    The government covers up A LOT of shady business. Silencing service members and witnesses is not difficult, simple blackmail or bribery.

  412. TJBronco,

    I hope to God, the universe, humanity, etc, that I am wrong.

    However, the stars seemed lined up (metaphorically and literally), and South Korea has in the past few hours reiterated that it won’t back down — no matter what the UN security council says.

    I do not believe in numerology, but I do believe there are many who do — or at least use it(including Rumsfeld, Cheney and the like). December 21 is a very important day for them. In addition, the full lunar eclipse, the full moon, the Illuminati rituals, etc.

    I pray Bill Richardson, or the UN, or Obama will get through to South Korea, but the problem is, they have cornered themselves in. Obama is really the only one who can officially tell SK that they must put their rights, pride and principal aside.

    Instead, the current US stance is: ‘We don’t think SK is wise to conduct the drill but we support their right to do it anyway.’

    It must change to: We support SK’s right to conduct the drills, but they must not do it, because it could lead to thermo-nuclear war.

  413. Panoptomist,I dislike the style of Ventura and Alex Jones,but they are reaching a public used to the Hollywood BS.I think their style cheapens the travesty perpetrated on the people of the USA but their intentions seem good.

    You and others on this site need to contain your anger and think like your opponents.Anger driven action will make Americans fall for their traps of deception.Remember the elites have been practising this for centuries and honing their control of our psyche.This time they have tripped themselves up big time and they know it.

    We have the biggest think tank on the planet called the internet,with truth being the mightiest sword of all.

  414. Panoptimist,

    I would not compare Alex Jones (I can’t bear him) and Jesse Ventura. I think it is necessary in the truth movement to name Zionists, but in fact, on a TV show it is impossible.

  415. You are right Kate. Apologize. I did not saw it was for TV the first time I saw it, and then I think that even if it was written, I was so closed, I would not have seen it. This points the importance of forums because I was unable to translate it. Now I can.

    JBruce tells something quite true below : people has to do what they are good at. No one is good at everything, and this being for TV is OK. I don’t watch TV, so I am not at a good place to say but it is absolutely different.

  416. It is interesting that Rumsfeld went to all the trouble of admitting that $2.3 trillion went missing on the eve of 911.Was he hedging his bets in case the Pentagon attack would not destroy all the evidence?

    The Fed Res probably generated this money in their computers which is like stealing from the US people since it depreciates their currency.Ron Paul rightly calls it counterfeiting.They certainly would not have used their money.It would be interesting to see who were the major beneficiaries.It probably not be the Israeli Govt but key individuals pulling the strings.

    Next year will determine all our fates.If we can stop an attack on Iran or North Korea,then time will be on our side since the truth now has enormous momentum.They are desperate to have another false flag event and bring in martial law,hence internet censorship.This is why it is crucial to have all evidence of their crimes on DVD.

  417. Dec 3, 2010 White Hat Report

    “Former presidents, cabinet members, congressmen–the corruption penetrates deep into the bowels of our global society and culture.”

    “The theft of the Bank of Taiwan wire transfer and the theft of funds from Ed Falcone, a U.S. citizen, are only two examples of the corrupt worldwide banking system; we have evidence of more. This fraud is estimated to be in the hundreds of trillions of dollars, all of which implicate the following top-ranking DC leaders:

    * President Barack Obama
    * Vice President Joe Biden
    * Former President George Bush Sr.
    * Former President George Bush Jr.
    * Former First Lady Barbara Bush (Pierce)
    * Former President Bill Clinton
    * Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
    * Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
    * Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger
    * International Financier George Soros
    * Former Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulsen
    * Former Vice President Dick Cheney
    * Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker
    * Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner
    * Former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney
    * Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke
    * Former WH Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel
    * Deutsche Bank’s Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Group Executive Committee Josef Ackermann”

    “We are in the process of confiscating funds (a total of $500 trillion) from bank accounts all over the world in the control of George Bush Sr. His wife, nee Barbara Pierce, is also part of the fraud; her family, the Pierces who are one of the largest trading groups in France, have assisted in the theft of funds via worldwide trading programs.”

  418. FOX News has been pushing many a lie regarding 9/11, especially Sean Nanitty.

    Surely the fact that Sean Hannity is paid 22 MILLION a year by Zionist Rupert Murdoch, whose FOX News pushed many a lie about Iraq and 9/11 has nothing to do with his wearing blinders?

    9/11 Inside Job Professor Jim Fetzer Dumps on Hannity and Colmes

    Ground Zero Iron Workers: Unanswered Questions

    9/11 was a FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB from the beginning

  419. There are many people who want to know the details of what happened. I think what “is” known should be published as quickly as possible before something “does” happen to the people who know. RENSE is a good place to post it, or RUMORMILLNEWS (Reading Room). From there people send it to email friends across the country and they forward it to theirs.

  420. Judicial Watch (founded by Larry Klayman) is riding herd on the Obama administration for non-compliance with FOIA requests, and they’ve gotten results pertaining to the documents they requested, despite the battle. I think your group should team up with their FOIA experts to get the documents you need. They are in existence to combat government corruption. The latest batch of documents they recovered were those detailing the bank crimes of Rep Maxine Waters.

    Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2010

  421. Never heard of BENS, but googled it:

    “Business Executives for National Security (BENS), a nationwide, non-partisan organization, is the primary channel through which senior business executives can help enhance the nation’s security. BENS members use their business experience to help government leaders implement solutions to the most challenging national security problems. BENS has only one special interest: to help make America safe and secure.”

    “Founded in 1982 by business executive and entrepreneur Stanley A. Weiss, BENS is guided by the simple notion that America’s security is everybody’s business. Led by President and CEO General Montgomery C. Meigs, U.S. Army (Ret.), BENS is a highly respected national, nonpartisan organization of senior executives dedicated to enhancing our national security”.

  422. notice that the acting administrator of the F.A.A. at the time was ‘unseen’ and ‘unheard’ and her boss, Mineta was the only one who got to testify. In addition, all of Mineta’s testimony about ‘do the orders still stand’ at the hearings, is not ‘redacted’ but taken out before the report goes to printing. there is an excellent Google video about this at this location…if you don’t mind taking an hour out of your day to watch it. It’s pretty technical but the beginning and the phone con parts at the end, are the most easily understood by the ‘non pilot’ or layperson.

    since the video was made, we have ascertained that the cockpit door did not open once during the entire flight, which means the hijackers either shape shifted into the cockpit, or they used the box cutters on the crew from under the door slot…but the video is worth watching:
    and another excellent analysis video by Pilots For Truth here:

    in any case, we have fully determined that the N.T.S.B. recreation of FLT-77 doesn’t even match the wholly fake and bogus (no aircaft ID or FLEET ID number in the FDR data preamble in the memory module) FDR data released under F.O.I.A. request, that ends with the plane never getting low enough to strike the building.

    Of course, right wing shills for the government assert that for some unknown reason, the FDR quit recording a whole six seconds before the plane hit anything.

    and that, is utter, total bullshit….as you can imagine..

  423. I don’t know, but it’s not out of the question. I do know that F.O.I.A. requests we made to the folks at H.Q. got a cold shoulder, and that the Public Affairs Officer, a female officer, started to get really nervous once she was made aware that we knew what ‘sample and hold’ is with regard to radar data during exercises. Then, a bunch of I.P. addresses from Langley (CIA) began to show up at the website where the information was being discussed. Then when we asked her why she talked to CIA about it, that more or less caused the line to go dead suddenly without even a cordial; “uh, I can’t talk about that” warning to us.

    so, some of us have done a lot of digging. a gent named John Farmer, aka Blue Collar Republican, gets a lot of the credit for his hard work (not the same John Farmer from the 9/11 Omission jackasses, a real one with real brains and a real need to get to the truth)

    In any case, the staggered digital delay in the NEADS radar data points we plotted from the now wholly worked over RADES data we had analyzed, showed us that something was horribly wrong with NEADS radar synchronization that day. This is also not washable as a timing error, as all of these racks get time sync’s that come from atomic cesium ion beam clocks that all are sync’d up with the National Observatory Naval Clock facility via land line. In any case, without going into too much detail, the cat is indeed out of the bag about NORAD’s involvement in holding the radar signal so that targets could be culled out and hence, intercepts made virtually impossible.

    Lastly, we talked to pilots who were in the aisrpace that day, near these planes, and found out that their targets were ‘removed’ probably either accidentally, or as a way of keeping us from finding these pilots and asking them what they saw. In one case, the pilot of an airplane we interviewed died in an airplane crash that had rather ‘smelly’ circumstances surrounding it after his interview with us.

    So we’re now going to implicate not just NORAD but Central Intelligence Agency in this TREASON by virtue of their loitering at the website after our discussions with Ms. Public Affairs at Langley AFB.

    so clearly you can see how some of us who’ve done the research at this depth, really have problems with assholes like Rivero calling us ‘pod people’ believers because we know that no Boeing B-757 hit the Pentagon, but instead, overflew it, just like Capt. Burlingame practiced a few years earlier using an almost identical airplane the American Airlines folks loaned to the Pentagon for the drill. How quaint, with whistle heads like Condolezbian Ricebowl stating; “who’d have known that these planes would be used” when, in fact, they printed up brochures with the WTC towers in the crosshairs, about the time the Pentagon drill with Burlingame’s earlier flyover happened.

  424. TJBronco says:
    December 19, 2010 at 2:00 am
    Fix where is all this diatribe heading?
    🙂 Blessed are the Peacemakers
    Just tired of all the idiocy & insanity

  425. The Northrop RQ-4 Global Hawk is a UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle).

    The first of 5 ACTD (advance concept technology demo) vehicles flew for the first time in Feb 1998. The Engineering & Manufacturing Devel phase of the program began in March 2001, and in Feb 2002 low-rate initial production was approved.

    So…the UAV used in 911 was still in DEVELOPMENT in 2001. That means that Northrup was probably involved.

    Additional info:
    The prominent nose bulge houses the wideband SATCOM antenna of 4 ft diameter. The vehicle can reach an altitude of 65,000 ft and has a maximum endurance of at least 36 (and possibly up to 42) hours. A Global Hawk system consists of two RQ-4A UAVs and two major ground stations, the RD-2A Mission Control Element (MCE) and the RD-2B Launch and Recovery Element (LRE).

  426. The Real Tea Party is not concerned with either.
    The problems facing our country right now override basic political ideology.

  427. Godsend:

    And you are clearly a paranoid schizophrenic that V.T. can do without.
    Thanks for exposing yourself, you violent sick freak.


  429. Thank You both! common sense tells you that airplane major wing spar boxes and heavy 7 ton engines with the inertial mass of a goddamned ocean liner at that speed, are going to ‘vaporize’ and not exist after making holes in at least ‘3’ of the building rings on their way to rest. One engine is found, and it’s not an RB-211. It’s a Global Hawk engine. Only a center line engine could go thru the hole the alleged fuselage made.

    In this case, the hole was punched by an AGM-65J Maverick missile with DU penetrator.

    that’s why the 18 inch thick layer of gravel was poured on the building approach aftetwards, and decontamination crews were decontaminating the people for DU exposure at the site.

    Only one aircraft uses DU in it’s structures. The MD-11/DC-10 family use them as anti flutter masses in the horizontal stabilizers, but nothing else does.

    Why the DU cover up with the 18 inch thick layer, when it’s not a normal component from an airliner except this one instance, which we know did NOT impact the building that day?

    because a missile was launched by the Global Hawk, an RQ4A model, and then the Global Hawk itself hit the building, and a piece of it was recovered after having wound up in Peggy Elgas’ automobile after a security guard at the Sheraton DT picket it up (yes we have it on video landing after the Global Hawk impact) and she had no clue she was with a piece of evidence that even further incriminates the U.S. Air Farce.

    ‘2’ global hawks of the RQ4A type are allegedly ‘lost’ in Afghanistan, but guess what, folks.

    Peggy Elgas made history by making us aware that one was used to attack the Pentagon that day.

    and any B-757 strictly did a flyover, per the C.I.T. video you can find on You Tube.

    and this was TREASON.

  430. NEADS (North Eastern Air Defense Sector) is operated by the NY Air
    National Guard and reports to NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense
    Command) located at the former Griffiss Air Force Base in Rome, NY.

    Was Gen Shelton involved with the “other” E-4B command plane?

  431. these E-4B’s were the crux of the command and control of the treason that day. the 26 second radar delay for the North East Air Defense Sector of the U.S. never occurred before Sept. 11th., 2001, and never happened again after that. NORAD is at a ‘loss’ to explain the reason they did it that day.

    But I know the reason. they had to delay the radar for NEADS long enough to take out the planes and make interception IMPOSSIBLE for any fighters from Andrews or any other location. They also intentionally (from the E-4B’s) vectored the launched combat air patrol interceptors out over the Atlantic, told them to look for Soviet cruise missiles.

    so, to be blunt, these planes had to have ‘2’ or ‘3’ operators at consoles running the whole nine yards.

    and someone in NORAD knows these guys. if they’re still alive. and they’ll talk…if they’re not dead already.

  432. “The E-4B serves as the National Airborne Operations Center for the president, secretary of defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If needed, the E-4B can provide a command, control and communications center to direct U.S. forces, execute emergency war orders and coordinate actions by civil authorities.”

    So…..General Hugh Shelton (supposedly flying to London during 911) was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until October 1, 2001, then GENERAL MEYERS GOT THE JOB.

  433. Ron Paul 2012
    ……….You weren’t there.
    Something hit the Towers, period.
    I don’t claim it was a commercial airlines……..


  434. “The vast majority of Freemasons in the world never progress beyond the bottom three levels of degree. But above them are another thirty higher levels in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which owes its inspiration to the ancient Knights Templar.

    Even the 33rd degree is not the top because there are the Illuminati levels above that, and the 33rd degree itself is unofficially divided into two streams, one knowing far more than the other. At each stage, the initiate is told a little more about the true nature of Freemasonry and the real game plan.

    Those who have reached the 33rd degree are on a different planet in terms of what they know, compared with the Masons on the bottom three levels. The men who go down to the local Freemasons’ lodge in your town or city will not have a clue what their organization is being used for. They have to be kept in the dark if the plan is to work and what better way of doing this than to use these distinct levels of initiation. Only those considered to be ‘acceptable’ progress to the higher levels and find out what is really going on.

    The vast majority of Freemasons are on the bottom three levels. They are the fodder and the front. Between the 4th and 33rd degrees, you find those of the ‘right mind’ who have influence in society, right up to presidents of the United States. Then you have the Illuminati levels, which you will not see mentioned in any Freemasons guidebook. Those are the people who actually run the show and they are the agents of the All-Seeing Eye cult. World Freemasonry is a massive pyramid of manipulation.”

    –David Icke, from ‘And the Truth Shall Set You Free’

  435. no, but you sure got attacked like you were. certainly the mossad was in the DRIVER’S SEAT, but to assert that only MOSSAD could be the criminals that day is a bit stupid. absurd actually. and LAME.

  436. Even a non-pilot can see that the “wings” of a 757 did NOT enter the Pentagon wall. The hole was too small and there were no wing openings or indentations in the wall.

  437. No B-757 hit the Pentagon, and to even go further, FLT-77 wasn’t even a scheduled air carrier flight that day. And that is a fact.

  438. Since you seem to know many of the “players”, I’d like to know the names of the OTHERS involved. Is there a site on the internet for these?

  439. I don’t get here enuf. I miss a couple weeks and the fireworks is almost done.

    Only one thing to add:


    That’s IT!

    After JFK got it, people made a fortune on PUT OPTIONS. They KNEW.

    After 911 happened, people made a fortune on PUT OPTIONS. They KNEW.

    Forget the rest, run with what you KNOW. Way to go old shipmate Jesse, and all other souls still in peril on the sea. When we put into port the fight BEGINS!

  440. I know very well that Mossad were involved. I was responding the comment above mine re: Cheney. He and Bush Sr. were certainly involved, ALONG WITH the Mossad. I’m not “discrediting” anything.

  441. discrediting this story because an alleged ‘gentile’ was involved, is a bit sad, because everyone in NORAD who helped out wasn’t obviously a mossad agent to the last man, but yet they aided and abetted this. case in point, the radar feed to NEADS was delayed 26 seconds so that targets could be ‘inserted’ and ‘removed’, and this was done by data link to the E-4B aircraft involved (two of them, one over NYC, the other over Arlington, VA) who just happened to be loitering high above each location just coincidentally.

    in any case, Richard B. Cheney wasn’t the only ‘gentile’ involved in this PNAC show, as Richard Myers was involved, as were others. One general in NORAD died with his wife in an ‘arranged’ D.C. metro train derailment for his ‘knowing’ of what this was all about…and others got promoted.

    in any case, discrediting Ventura as a mossad agent plant is a bit much. I’m surprised this much got out. There is so very much to expose and so very little time to start hanging these people for their criminality at Ft. Leavenworth, KS.

    thank you, there was no wreckage other than a few pieces they made sure to put on the news, “”the mysterious magical jumbo jet”” that crashed and then no remains,debris, NO PLANE IMPACT AT PENTAGON!!
    NO B-757 airliner hit the Pentagon
    NO B-757 airliner hit the Pentagon
    NO B-757 airliner hit the Pentagon
    NO B-757 airliner hit the Pentagon

  443. Cheney was sitting right there in the control center at LEAST 30 minutes BEFORE he claimed to be in the building, with a young soldier reporting to him every few minutes on the progress of the airplane/missile headed that way. When the countdown was down to 5 mins, the (by this time nervous) young man asked Cheney if he wanted to issue a STOP order. Cheney said NO.

  444. Gives a whole new meaning to, “the I’s have it”. meaning in my simple mind, NYC region where I was raised, was controlled by the three “I’s”; Irish, Italian, Israel. Now, how many other interesting country names begin with the letter I? Yes, time for me to go to sleep for about another 100 years. Hey, a really good read is, “100 years of Solitude”. Nite all.

  445. Bullshit Fix.

    You weren’t there.
    Something hit the Towers, period.
    I don’t claim it was a commercial airlines.
    Do you think the video I posted supports the governments official story?
    Use your head.

  446. Various Administrations have proposed “painting up” military planes to look like a civilian airliners in order to create a provocation, all the way back to Cuba.

    It’s common knowledge.
    Therefore I conclude that something did hit the towers, it was just not a commercial airliner


    Israeli Snipers Killing U.S. Troops in Iraq, 2006-11-10

    Anderson Cooper of CNN showed this video of snipers killing U.S. troops in Iraq on his October 18, 2006 show. CNN says it obtained the video from a representative of an unnamed insurgent leader. Bear in mind that Anderson Cooper used to work for the CIA.

    Richard Wilson’s hypothesis: Israeli soldiers and/or Mossad agents are killing our soldiers in Iraq in order to enrage American troops so that the slaughter continues.

    Proof: At the very beginning of this video clip, you see a rifle with a video camera attached to it. This weapon is made by the Rafael company, an Israeli arms manufacturer, that also makes IEDs. If you watch the video all the way through, it explains how this rifle works. CNN stated that the camera used to film these shootings was not a mounted rifle camera. But as you watch the video, you see that with each shot fired, the camera recoils. That would only happen if it were mounted on the rifle. Why is this significant? Because this kind of rifle-camera is extremely sophisticated and not available to your average Iraqi insurgent. I mean, it’s not exactly an easily obtainable Saturday night special! Something this sophisticated points to Mossad.

    Mossad is a master at false flag operations, e.g., Oklahoma City, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, the bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, the July 7, 2005 London bombings, the 9-11 attacks in New York, the assassination of the Prime Minister in Beirut, the stoking of Muslim riots in France last year, the bombing of the Hassan al-Askari Mosque in Samarra, Iraq, etc.

    Israelis freely move among US and UK troops in Iraq, and have access to top-level US intelligence. Until July 2003, the head of all US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan was General Tommy Franks, a Zionist Jew. (He is now on the board of directors for Bank of America.) On November 7, 2006 another Zionist Jew became a principle liaison between Mossad and US forces in Iraq: Major General Richard F. Natonski of the Marine Corps. His title is Deputy Commandant for Plans, Policies and Operations.

    Because of this access, the insurgents (i.e., Mossad agents) know exactly where US vehicles will be and who will be inside them. This allows them to target for maximum false flag effect.

    For example, on July 23, 2005, a detachment of 19 female US Marines was sent to Fallujah to check Iraqi women for bombs. An IED blew up their truck. Two of the young American women were killed, five were critically wounded, and four were captured. The bodies of the four captured women turned up later in a garbage dump with their throats cut. Americans were outraged. Islamic clerics insisted that only Israelis could be so cold-blooded. And who was in charge of US forces in Fallujah at the time? None other than Major General Natonski, the Mossad liaison.

    Americans are supposed to believe that rag-tag insurgents use IEDs powerful enough to kill three US troops per day, on average. An American soldier even set up a blog on how Intel is betraying and targeting US troops. But sometimes Mossad bomb-makers accidentally blow themselves up in Iraq.

    According to Richard Wilson, Israeli sniping and IEDs are false flag operations. He says that on March 28, 2005, Americans arrested 19 Mossad agents who fired twice on a US Marine checkpoint. The Marines beat up the Mossad agents and tore off their Star-of-David necklaces. (The US media incorrectly said the agents were Americans.) The Mossad agents said they were employees of Zapata Engineering, which helps the CIA conduct interrogations, and also manages US ammo dumps and US motor pools in Iraq.

    IEDs in Iraq are powerful enough to flip over a 70-ton tank. Some of the models shoot depleted-uranium projectiles, and are triggered by electronic devices surreptitiously planted on US armored vehicles. Zapata Engineering (which employs Mossad agents) makes this exact kind of trigger, and oversees some of the US motor pools.

    Rumsfeld says the IEDs come from Iran, but Richard says they come from Mossad, and are not improvised at all. The Israeli company, Rafael (see above), makes IEDS, which are buried in the middle of a road. Beside the road is a device which emits a laser or radio signal. This device is manufactured by firms like Zapata Engineering, which is controlled by Zionist Jews. The IED mine, manufactured by Israel, is inert until a US vehicle (secretly planted with a triggering device) rolls over it.

    Whenever Mossad carries out these false-flag operations they produce a videotape or a recording from an unnamed source that is close to al-Qaeda. Sometimes they say the claim was posted on an Internet website, but its authenticity could not be verified.

    But Israelis would never kill anyone in cold blood, would they? After all, the USS Liberty massacre was an accident!

  448. when he can show me the ‘2’ RB-211, 7 ton engines, as only one engine was found in the wreckage at the Pentagon, and then explain to me how the inertial mass of the 7 tons moving at more than 440 knots, is effectively cancelled and nullified by the outer facade of the Pentagon, and those two powerplants don’t continue on at least till they get all the way to the ‘C’ ring, then maybe I’ll cut some slack.

    this is no time to be a jerkoff and call people who’ve flown more hours as pilot in command than he ever dreamt of, ‘assholes’ for calling him on this ‘no plane’ horsecrap that he uses to denigrate those of us who know that NO B-757 airliner hit the Pentagon.

    some of us have done 50,000 hours or research, a lot of it in airplane cockpits over decades, and to have a non pilot discredit what we know is essentially ‘not possible’ is not going to cut it.

    He can believe anything he wants, but to put those assertions in his blog and then decry those of us who know better as ‘pod people’ when he himself is not a pilot, has no aircraft certification experience of any kind, and obviously doesn’t observe laws of physics about inertia and speed with heavy objects like aircraft jet engines on wing pylons that hit a building, clearly are pushing disinformation.

    believe what he wants, but to denigrate professional pilots who know better. me think that is tantamount to being a bit full of one’s self as a special effects person without aviation experience.

    so yes, I call him on it. This is not a game. this is TREASON.

  449. Thanks for writing the truth, Gordon.

    I assume you are aware that on certain zionist and israeli-shill-infiltrated conspiracy sites, when one of your articles is linked, they call you a racist and say VT is owned by George Soros, right?

    I have been investigating 9/11 since an hour after the attacks. I know who attacked us. No amount of spin or shilling can convince me that I am wrong, and you and I seem to be on the same page.

  450. Better yet, has anyone made detailed list of all the unsolved crimes during the Bush Administration? If so, I would like to have a copy of this Book?

  451. I’m personally not familiar with him.
    Does it matter?
    We are all on the same page here for the most part.

  452. Ron Paul 2012,
    it is interesting that “plant” reciting by rote
    ………not…….. american……… airlines,
    something that was wanted to be put out there as part of the narrative for a going in circles diversion?????

    Mike Rivero has gone out a long way on a lot of things,are you sure you want to categorize him in that manner,
    just asking??
    agree or disagree or something else?? 🙂

  454. nobody said no planes hit the towers. the assertion that an airliner, a B-757, weighing 60 tons EMPTY, not counting the fuel on board, not leaving engine penetration holes in the facade, or wing impact damage to the lower level of the building, or bodies, or other empennage wreckage, is absurd and a LIE.

    pull your head out. don’t pull the no airplane crap on me. I’m stating that no commercial Boeing ‘anything’ model hit the Pentagon. based on FDR data that is bogus, and the flight profile the N.T.S.B. having released, as impossible.

    but yes, jet aircraft did strike the twin towers, but here again, their speeds were too high to be commercial airliners. the B-767 cannot maintain in straight and level flight, at near sea level, such high speeds without several issues with control and structural failures. Top speed at that altitude is not too much more than 365 knots without breaking the plane during maneuvering or losing control due to aileron buzz or flutter and reversal of aileron commands due to that. It just is another entire area that non professional pilots need to keep their noses out because you don’t know what you are talking about, and some of us with years of experience flying all sorts of metal, light and heavy, know differently!

  455. For the record I was not raised or pre-disposed to “hate jews” or be anti-semantic,

    you observe and learn about things and then there you are,

    I know there are a number of good folk who have Mothers that are jewish 🙂 🙂
    (this is not sarcasm)

    the last 100 years could have been something else

  456. 2004/2005 George was making sure good missile technology was passed to China, so other big deals could be made later. He really screwed the US people!

  457. Ron Paul 2012,

  458. I like Mike. He believes what he believes. I believe that he believes what he believes in good faith. I also believe that those who choose to believe are believers.
    Believers have faith in things they don’t see…like invisible airplanes.

  459. Ross:
    I’d wager that part of that 2.3 trillion dollars went into the orchestration and execution of 9/11. After all, this happened on the watch of dual-citizen and ordained rabbi, Dov Zakheim, who was appointed by Bush as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004.

    A Comptroller oversees accounting and the implementation and monitoring of internal controls, independently from the Chief Accountant (“CAO”) or the Chief Financial Officer .

    ‘Judicial Inc’ points out that most of Israel’s armaments were gotten thanks to Zakheim. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value. This fact also probably accounts for some of the missing trillions.

    Conveniently, the story of the missing trillions was buried under 9-11’s rubble.

  460. I will elaborate on your thought.
    I don’t agree with the “no plane” theory.
    Quite a few people saw something hit the towers on 911.
    The question is, what was it?

    “full clip – “that was not american airlines”

    Now even V.T. has posted articles on this subject.
    Various Administrations have proposed “painting up” military planes to look like a civilian airliners in order to create a provocation, all the way back to Cuba.

    It’s common knowledge.
    Therefore I conclude that something did hit the towers, it was just not a commercial airliner.

    Don’t get caught up in the “September Clues” bullshit, it’s a dead end.

  461. Joe, Every time I start reading one of your posts I get an amazingly uncomfortable feeling. . The same kind of feeling I used to get when I was younger. . The feeling you get when you are about to about have something you considered “right and normal” dashed to pieces..

  462. “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” Benyamin Netanyahu, at the time a former IsraHELL prime minister

  463. Joe,
    I understand and appreciate your anger at the “sons of satan.” I also feel solidarity with you in our Catholic faith, patriotism and the desire to tell the truth no matter how uncomfortable it makes people feel.

    I would like to encourage you, despite the hopelessness of the bolshevik scourge on our country and the world. Christ has won the battle for us. The sons of Cain will be defeated through Him and the intersession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She told the children at Fatima: “In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph.”
    She warned us against the errors of Russia, i.e. Bolshevism, Kazarian Masonry, Communism, Secular humanism, the slaughter of the innocents etc, etc.
    Modern cities are in muddled confusion, poisoned by the filth of the lame stream media. The natural order will never be corrupted. The humble country people of the world are aware of this. The Catholic peasants of the Americas, and all of the world will be preserved in their faith and in the truth.
    Our Lord said, “the meek shall inherit the earth”
    Preserve yourself in a state of Grace, pray for your enemies and never lose faith!

    Markus, if you have a stepfather who is “Roman Catholic” which teaches that the jews are “God’s Chosen” he is not a true Roman Catholic but probably a Novus Ordo Vatican II catholic.

  464. Bap-DUHS is almost too kind a term for these so-called Christians, Joe. In addition to John KISS-ISRA-HELL Hagee, their other ‘Messiah’ is an old reprobate named CHARLES STANLEY, whose TV ‘Bible’ teachings pollute the airwaves worldwide. Stanley’s special brand of poison is the doctrine “ONCE-SAVED-ALWAYS-SAVED”: just say that ‘Sinner’s Prayer’ one time, and your Ticket-To-Heaven is a sure thing. Oh, and STANLEY also promotes the ‘Pre-Trib Rapture’ heresy, as well as the ‘Tithe Your Gross Income Weekly’ and ‘Be In Submission To Your Pastor’s Authority/Church-Covering/Shepherding’ control scams.

  465. I am not a ‘religious’ person, but I am deep in religion (both Christian and Muslim) and defend ALL virtues and values that stand for life, love, justice, morality and freedom

  466. Hey Joe,… Maintain the rage brother; maintain the RAGE!


    Posted August 26, 2010 at 3:16 am

    “There are literally hundreds of whore houses in Tel Aviv alone. There are none in Gaza.

    ” IsraHELL has one of the highest abortion rates in the Mid East. The Palestinians don’t even have a word for abortion in their language”

    thanks for the knowledge

    good stuff!!!!!
    Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Joe, Every time I start reading one of your posts I get an amazingly uncomfortable feeling. . The same kind of feeling I used to get when I was younger. . The feeling you get when you are about to about have something you considered “right and normal” dashed to pieces.. While it may be uncomfortable it’s the devil squirming, for he knows his time is short and is being exposed in ever way and form.

    When I read your posts I am reminded. “ye are in the world but not of the world” Thanks again Joe. . Ever Vigilant!!
    Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    “Short of violence – attack them any way you can – boycott them socially as the immoral pariahs they are. Treat them worse than like street filth. These rancid pukes are the one who will get your sons killed in these for Jews only wars – and eventually the whole family – when they finally cause the big one!

    It is ‘in your face’ CLEAR ! Can anyone today possibly be so stupid as not to see?”

    Dear Joe

    I found nothing I disagree with in your article.

    I am not a ‘religious’ person, but I am deep in religion (both Christian and Muslim) and defend ALL virtues and values that stand for life, love, justice, morality and freedom.

    I like to call myself a non Roman non Apostolic Catholic (universal Christianity) Muslim (one who surrenders to the Will of the One and Only Almighty God). I was educated in a Roman Catholic school and I know something about Catholicism and I used to attend Church in Paris with my Catholic friends. But, I stopped going when the Church was taken over by Jews and Zionists, and because the priest was not preaching Christ anymore but only ISRAHELL!

    I studied in Russia among Jews and lived among Jews, worked with Jews in Paris for 13 years, has countless Jewish legal representatives (they have a monopoly), Jewish clients, Jewish university comrades, Jewish staff, and I would not tell a lie about them because I KNOW THEM!

    Their synagogues are dens of vipers. They collect money for the terrorist entity known as Israhell.

    One of my staff, Eric Silberman, once a Russian Jew, was recruited and paid by the local synagogue to join the TSAHAL, and trained in France in the use of weaponry. He was to go to Israhell to kill Palestinians, men, women and children, and was offered free accomodation on Palestinain land.

    Another one of my staff, a university comrade, Françoise Turnowski and her family were invited to settle on Palestinian land for free.

    The Jews run the French establishment like they do in the UK and in the US. But, without the complicity of “Christian” Zionists, Jews are powerless.

    I have known of many Baptist Devils (ardent Zionists) like Dr Martin Luther King Jr and William Jefferson Clinton who were for the extermination of Arabs in defence of ISRAHELL! Dr Kent Hovind too was telling lies about Arabs and Muslims in order to please the Jews and to make converts, but his Jewish friends of the IRS had him locked up for ten years because he did not know he had to pay them taxes (even if they were not owed!).

    We will never be able to successfully fight the Jews if we do not fight the so-called Christians (and even Muslims) who gave them that power in the first place. I agree with you totally. WE BADLY NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND MARK GLENN!

  467. “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” — Benyamin Netanyahu, at the time a former IsraHELL prime minister

  468. Just spend some time as a fly on the wall in a Bapt-duh ‘church’ – if you can call this evil place a house of worship. Worship of the DEVIL perhaps – but certainly not Christ – or Jaysus! As they call him. You will hear their head demon ( pastor) pontificate on the evils of drugs and alcohol – of the evil of killing babies – or the sins of adultery – or the evils of theft – or the vileness of lying – or even the wickedness of homosexuality as “an abomination in the eyes of God”. BUT STAY TUNED as the worst is yet to come.

    Then the diatribes on the evil of the Islamics will spew forth with a vitriolic hatred seldom heard in mixed society. There will shrill pleas to support the Jews in IsraHELL – and even louder rhetoric mandating the murders of millions of Arab people (who have incidentally never done us any harm) The vehemence and fury of the contemptuous screed for war and killing and destruction these hateful people have is classic demonic evil. Their capacity for hypocrisy is dazzling!

    They worship the very people (Jews) who so cruelly and openly and relentlessly mock our Lord and His blessed Mother in their filthy Talmud– yet they damn the innocent people ( Arabs) whose holy book speaks in highest regard, love and praise For Christ –Mary and Christians in general. These are NOT opinions. They are verifiable truths known to ALL honest educated persons on earth! BUT – just present these truths to one of these imbecile Bapt-duhs in his ‘Synagogue Of Satan’ and you will suffer a hail of insults threats and profanities seldom heard even in a biker bar!

    Think I exaggerate? Why don’t you contact Phoenix minister Chuck Carlson of operation ‘Straight Gate/We Hold These Truths’. His associates have continually been insulted threatened mocked and attacked outside these Satanic Bapt-duh false churches. Their crimes? Providing FACTUAL evidence – SPEAKING GOD’S TRUTH – and promoting peace – not war – PERIOD! To add insult to injury – a local rag newspaper – the Phoenix New Times – apparently leftist and Jewish – did an article on Chuck Carlson that was slanderous and libelous. He is one of the finest decent truthful moral educated people I have known in many years – and only scumbags would bash a man of his unquestionable character and courage.

    Stupidity! I have never encountered a more abysmally and criminally ignorant – frighteningly ignorant people than the Bapt-duhs – hence their new given name. There is NOTHING ‘Christian’ about these scurrilous trash. Their association of the name our Lord next to that filthy profane term of Zionist – as in “Christian/Zionist” – is not only the ultimate oxymoron – it is pure blasphemy.


  469. mynameisjoecortina.wordpress

    I believe it is high time I cleared the air on the issue of what the Bapt-duhs have done to my country. They are not the only one who mock the teachings of Jesus – but they are by far the largest and the worst. I believe that they are the most evil entity in America today – as they virtually alone have enabled our Jew occupied nation to wage unlimited serial wars of totally innocent people for the SOLE purpose of the greater glory of the greatest eternal enemy of all decent mankind – THE JEWS!

    All that ANY American would need to do to understand how rancid and putrid the Bapt-duhs are is to listen to the demonic fat pig who is their leader and Satanic inspiration. He is of course hate meister John Hagee – a disgustingly obese glutton whose claim to fame is war mongering for the Jews and getting as many of the 50 million of these bovine red-necks as possible to sell their souls to Satan and cruelly mock the teachings of Jesus. In that respect – Jew hit-man – racist – bigot – demon – mass child killer Hagee has found fertile ground for hate peddling with the pasty-faced putty-brained red-neck, feeble minded, retarded, comatose, phlegmatic Bapt-duhs!

    Anti-Christ wanna-be Hagee constantly harps on his ‘Stand For IsraHELL’ rallies – BUT – I have yet to hear him mandate a ‘Stand For What Christ Stands For’ rally. He not only insults our Lord but insults the people who ostensibly stand for Christ by leading them into committing murderous horrors totally offensive to what Christ would do. It has been proposed that a litmus test for human stupidity is a person or group so stupid that they do not even realize they have been mocked.

    Their idiocy is, and always has been unrivaled! I can still remember from some 60 years past that as a Catholic Christian I was actually asked if Priests had cloven hooves and did we really ‘worship idols’. These abusive affronts were not done as friendly jests – but were actually believed by these witless morons! Today – that SAME insufferable evil level of doltishness – if not stopped – will foment the inevitable destruction of America by their Jew masters. Ignorance kills!

    Bapt-duhs have already caused more innocent civilian human suffering destruction terror and evil by their criminal ignorance – than ALL lives lost and shattered in Vietnam and Korea COMBINED! REMEMBER – war criminal mass murderer George Bush could NOT have been able to wage wars against Afghanistan and Iraq – resulting in the cold-blooded murder of over two million innocent civilians – MOSTLY CHILDREN – and the destruction of tens of millions of homes schools hospitals and utilities – and the creation of millions of terrified civilian refugees – without THE APPROVAL OF THE DAMNED IGNORANT EVIL BAPT-DUHS!

  470. I agree. I don’t like the term either. As much as I read, one of my family members REFUSED to believe the things I mentioned. One day out of the blue I learned they NOW “believed” what I’d mentioned before BECAUSE THEY SAW IT ON JESSE VENTURA.

  471. I agree, with all their spy technology, wiretaps, internet and phone surveillance, spying through your TV, and can listen to what’s going on in a room even with your telephone off (you’d have to remove the battery to stop this). I believe the Commander of Elmendorf AFB, AK and those 6 men from Minot AFB, ND involved with the B52 “missile mistake” were taken out. In fact, I think MANY military men have been “suicided” because of what they know.

  472. Dailykos is the same way.
    I can’t say I’m not disappointed by it. After years of fighting the Bush administration these fake democrats have proven to be just as bad as the fake republicans.
    Both political parties have been completely hijacked by corporate/financial interests.

  473. Your constant calls for violence can be interpreted as entrapment.

    If you’re actually a concerned citizen and not a shill I assure you, you are not helping the cause.

  474. You don’t have to be Dr. Phil to see the obvious.

    “Just don’t come back here?”

    Wow, you have a serious attitude problem.
    I’m not impressed by you at all.

  475. flipper4,
    There is a long history of persecution & injustice by Zionist Jews or Talmudists against Gentiles,
    …………..(or whatever their Mental Issues are!!)…………….
    For the record,
    are you an Anti-Gentile??……ARE YOU A DENIER??????

  476. Now the reason for the link, my experiences with George. To show you this someone wasn’t then, and not now, what their pretending “innocent”.

    Ask yourself (2) questions.

    1. If this was just about components being supplied to another country, why did this require the former Presidents signature? Answer, “Because the Federal Agency Investigating knew illegal activity was being performed, and wanted to wash their hands”.

    2. Why would former President sign the documents? For what reason? Does this make any sense to you at all? Answer, “Because a big deal was made later through a partnership of his former employer”.

    There are many witnesses that observed illegal activities during the last administration, other veterans and executives as myself, why are none of these people from previous administration being prosecuted?

  477. Jesse Ventura has already proven his ability to get “the scoop” with his other series. If you don’t like his presentation, no problem, but many Americans have been AWAKENED by his shows to things they never even knew EXISTED (like H.A.A.R.P. and Chemtrails). Besides that, he’s a hero to many Americans.

    “Wall Street”
    “The Gulf Oil Spill”
    “Police State”
    “Global Warming”

  478. J. Bruce,

    Former Army Ranger, they have attempted to kill for more then 10 years. With contractors, and abroad, the rabbit hole is deeper then 911. They used contract companies to target people, prior to 911, to stop other investigations so some wealthy elite families had no exposure and were assured contract awards later. Simply amazing…while investigators sat back and watched.

    Yes people, when partnered companies were breaking the law, all they had to do was get George involved. Then problem solved, was George really after terrorist, or people reporting criminal activity. My (First Hand) experience is he was protecting criminals.

  479. Your “refusal” to believe they did this is the “very reason” this country is where it is today. If you had been reading the hundreds of various articles on the internet, by now you would KNOW it’s true, and how it could have been accomplished with “airplane remote control technology”, missles that looked like airplanes using the Air Force’s Project Bluebeam hologram technology. You would know that the Bushes, Clintons, and Obama have stolen millions for their off-shore accounts and are traitors to this country, along with their dual-citizen friends and cabinet members.

    Many people I know also REFUSE to see the truth; they believe that if it’s not on the TV and radio news, it doesn’t exist. How can this country’s citizens stand up as a UNIFIED FORCE against constitutional abuses by known TRAITORS if they have no idea WHO the ongoing perpetrators are or WHAT they did to obtain their goals of REPRESSION. Believe me, they know “something” is wrong, but are at a loss as to how to fix it. Some of them stood up via the tea parties because they were OUTRAGED at the bailouts. The others…they listen to NPR.

  480. And the link to the small story written, there was a hell of allot more then accelerometers going on here….a hell of allot more. It simply amazes me how so much crime was committed and nothing was done, “We hired someone from the Bush family, so your in big trouble now!” This was stated to me so many times….over and over.

    The crimes never stopped after 911 people, they continued…for big profits! Why Bush and Company never had any charges filed against them, is “Completely Amazing.”

  481. Your constant calls for violence can be interpreted as entrapment.

    If you’re actually a concerned citizen and not a shill I assure you, you are not helping the cause.

  482. I`ve posted a lot of 911 Truth links on that site.
    But the link on my name is never let through.
    (Even Cleveland, on the Cleveland Show – that Erriana voices on – said a few weeks ago ‘911 was an inside job’.
    Kinda sad there Huffpo)

  483. Binky:

    I’m not surprised.
    I’ve complained about HuffPos censorship here before. You can’t even refute an article without getting deleted, it’s actually in their posting rules!
    They play a dirty game.

  484. if the Foo shits, wear it, dude! Sheeple is extremely appropriate. Only dumbed down by fluoride and prozac morons could ever buy such a cockamamie bullshit story that airplanes can crash and leave no wreckage to speak of, or bodies, or cargo wreckage, not to mention engine penetration points and wings that can’t fold up at the last moment and enter the impact hole and be gone..

    so yeah, Sheeple fits. MORONS fit better, or a combo of both. SIMPLETONS is exactly on target.

    people in the U.S. are MORONS, to the last brain dead person, almost ALL morons, with about ten percent having seen this act of treason for exactly what it was in the first seconds, knowing it was impossible and hence, an INSIDE JOB., with Israeli mossad at the helm.

  485. A few comments (without the links):

    – Difficult to refute this Ventura doc. Too bad the ‘corn’ in the series. ( Nice car Jesse, Table talk, why not present a serious documentary, etc.) But the corn may be the only attribute that brings this show to air – Gives it sort of a ‘How can this be true’ feel. Nothing but Kudos for Ventura. Mean Gene would be proud.
    – The Ventura show about FEMA camps seems to have disappeared from the Tru TV site and mysteriously won’t be rebroadcast. As I recall it included something about anti-Israel bumper stickers etc being reported to The Feds. (It also had Jesse and Alex Jones hiding in the woods peeking at some collected plastic containers Alex said were coffins for the American public – Pretty lame. Take your pick for reasons behind the ban) It’s not been explained why this show is now censored.
    – The Site 9/11 Blogger didn’t think this show deserved their front page.
    Enough said.
    – In the same vein Huffington Post won’t allow the (Click my name) link
    to be posted in comments. Try it. That link is banned. Some much for the American ‘left’ wing.
    – There’s a doc on WikiLeaks on Max Keiser’s site I think people should watch. Link. Re:December 17 2010)
    Assange is a PR problem. Possibly more as Gord says. We`ll see.

  486. The Gage site link is banned from Huffington Post.(As seems to be my last post here…)
    Try it in a comment. Your comment will never appear.
    That doesn`t really help things.

  487. In addition to the $10 billion in TARP money received by Goldman Sachs, it’s now reported that the Fed purchased $100 billion of GS’s nearly worthless MBS paper, enabling them to pay back the TARP money and pay out $1 billion in bonuses, as well as hide the fact they were utterly bankrupt. Here’s one article on this:

    The financial players involved in 9/11 are now coming into focus as well.

  488. Ventura fails. I wonder what kind of show would produce: Ventura succeeds.

    Who, exactly, are you to judge such a thing? You don’t even use your real name.

    Ventura fails to do what? Have suspects arrested at the end of the show?

    Let’s say he did the show like one of my columns, would that make you happy? That would be the last show and we’d never see it. Going after Cheney and Rumsfeld is legitimate and totally proper, since they were top executives who apparently engineered the massacres. Ventura went after a Jewish congressman, Steve Cohen, a couple of weeks ago, for being a sponsor of the FEMA camps for dissidents. He gets no credit from you for that.

    Jesse Ventura, in this case – it could be anyone, takes his life in his hands for these exposes which are unlike anything ever seen on television. If you think you’re going to make tougher shows with your fault-finding, have at it and see how that works.

  489. A few comments:

    – Difficult to refute this Ventura doc. Too bad the ‘corn’ in the series. ( Nice car Jesse, Table talk, why not present a serious documentary, etc.) But the corn may be the only attribute that brings this show to air – Gives it sort of a ‘How can this be true’ feel. Nothing but Kudos for Ventura. Mean Gene would be proud.
    – The Ventura show about FEMA camps seems to have disappeared from the Tru TV site and mysteriously won’t be rebroadcast. As I recall it included something about anti-Israel bumper stickers etc being reported to The Feds. (It also had Jesse and Alex Jones hiding in the woods peeking at some collected plastic containers Alex said were coffins for the American public – Pretty lame. Take your pick for reasons behind the ban) It’s not been explained why this show is now censored.
    – The Site 9/11 Blogger didn’t think this show deserved their front page.
    Enough said.
    – In the same vein Huffington Post won’t allow the
    to be posted in comments. Try it. That link is banned. Some much for the American ‘left’ wing.
    – There’s a doc on WikiLeaks on Max Keiser’s site I think people should watch. ( I couldn`t find a separate link. December 17) Assange is a PR problem. Possibly more as Gord says. We`ll see.

  490. That’s right — it’s not their fault.

    I entered first grade in 1950. It was right on the cusp.

    Reading was taught with phonics. Basic math was taught with flash cards.

    When a student stumbled over the pronunciation of a new word, the teacher said, “Sound it out.”

    It was during that decade that phonics was phased out, in favor of the “look-see” method. Flash cards also disappeared.

    The result was rampant illiteracy and innumeracy.

    The “dumbed-down sheeple” — those who entered school from the mid-50s onward — didn’t make the decisions to change school curricula. They, and their parents, had no say in the matter.

  491. David Ray Griffin addresses these impossible cell phone calls, and F.B.I. has retracted all claims that they even occurred. They now will only stand by the claim that one call actually completed, and it lasted too very briefly to impart any information, due to the almost immediate disconnect that happened.

    and I want to point out that it’s impossible for cellular phone communications to have occurred at any altitude higher than 2,500 feet, or at the speeds the government stipulates these planes were flying, due to both antenna radiation pattern issues, path losses, signal strengths, and the way cell phone towers decide which tower is going to handle the call. from a personal standpoint, I can tell you that cell phone calls at high altitude and at these high airspeeds, using standard handheld equipment (as American 77 didn’t have the phones on board, and the folks at United also say they had pulled theirs off as well..eliminating them as possibilities).

    if you listen to David Ray Griffin’s excellent audio interview about this, you’ll see that the only way the F.B.I. caves in, is when it is challenged with information that makes them look both idiotic and foolish in their assertions that ANY OF THESE CALLS COULD ACTUALLY HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT DAY..

    so, in summary, these calls were all NSA fabrications. not real. expecially the one from the one gentleman that could be electronically overlayed on top of one he allegedly made just seconds earlier, and noise spike by noise spike, they are the same audio. and lastly, he identifies himself to his mother using his FIRST AND LAST NAME. get real. Not happening in real life.

  492. So too was an enormous body of evidence in ongoing investigations into Goldman Sachs and other Zio-banking rackets when building 7 was demolished.

    And then there was the heist of the gold from under building 6 through the underground tunnel network whilst the drama was unfolding aboveground.

  493. There was noone TO stand down, the vast preponderance of our air defense had been sent off to do “drills” in Canadian airspace.

    What remnant remained was simply sent scurrying hither and yon (with the exception of the one sent to blow one airliner out of the sky over Shanksville.

    Everything else was smoke, mirrors and well placed explosives/missiles.

    I encourage folks to dig into the role played by BENS and the NSA in all this, another aspect not mentioned in most 911 Truth research sites.

  494. I object to the use of the term “sheeple.” It’s elitist, it’s egotistical, it’s condescending, it’s disrespectful, it’s just plain downright rude.

    Insulting people is no way to win them over to our side.


    “1,391 verified architectural and engineering professionals and 10,585 other supporters have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation.”

    Spread the word…

  496. Thanks.


    Anyway, with respect to one matter you brought up, Korea (not Iran) appears to be on the front burner (Although I think this will spread to Iran). I’m not a believer in numerology, but it looks like we are going to war on December 21, 2010. We have American consultants on Yeonpyeong Island right now (meaning that if the island is hit, we have that much more incentive to counter-attack (than simply the old agreement from the Korean war).

    The maritime and the weather forecasts for the 21st are smooth, sunny and calm.

    The showdown at Yeonpyeong on the 21st, while seemingly concocted only by the players themselves (North versus South), was initiated by an unknown submarine. I don’t believe for a second that we really know who fired that torpedo. The UN says North Korea, Kim Jong-Il says no way.

    We might be right to partially blame South Korea for the questionable response whereby they shot Live Fire Rounds into disputed territory. We would be right to blame Kim-Jong Il for the counter-response — unnecessary shelling of Yeonpyeong. We might even be right to blame South Korea and the United States for not ‘counter-counter responding’ to that recent shelling of Yeonpyeong immediately — since an immediate response would have let the air out of the balloon and been in line with prior tit for tat actions at the boarder.

    Instead, the US DOD told South Korea to “wait”, which turned the South Korean people against their leader (The people wanted a swift restrained military response). In response to this political (and probably tactical error), he hired a new General that would be more aggressive. Now we have a replay on Dec. 21st, except this time, South Koreans have promised a massive response to any North Korean bombing, and North Korea has promised Nuclear war inside and beyond the peninsula’s boarders if the drills go forward.

    Anyway, we will never honestly know whose submarine fired that initial torpedo that sunk the South Korean military ship (unless someone on board provides proof).

    It is an impossible situation now, and all we can pray is that both sides (North and South) do their normal tit for tat and everything calms down (unlikely this will work:see below). My estimation is that the North has 20 Nukes and 20 long-range ballistic missiles).

    The problem is if North Korea does restrain, I think someone out there who wants this war (shadow government?) has a backup false flag ready and waiting. (We have 67% of our nuclear powered subs there right now)

    Why? The scenario on Dec. 21st calls for controlled media coverage. It calls for a clear day, which could be confused with any other clear day. (Important for later fictional footage). Most importantly, it only calls for one false flag: large artillery shell, torpedo, missile or drone to be fired at one of our ships or South Korea’s ships and or civilian locations — even outside and away from where the action is — like at Seoul.

    Now, I don’t want to be too doomsday, but something else bothered me in the news today. Several News articles laid blame with the Obama Administration regarding 2 long range — and one mid-range — missile interception test failures. Here’s one of them:

    My conclusion is that if we are nuked (and the interceptors miss) on the 21st, 22nd or 23rd, blame will go to Obama (which is utterly ridiculous, because he hasn’t had enough time in office to effect the failure or success of interceptor tests through on-the-ground funding). My sense is that there is one “good” piece of news to this: any nuke attack upon the U.S. will happen with warning via missile (not from a ‘suitcase’), but this is just speculation, it could be a combination.

    The scenario is too controlled, too date sensitive, too mysteriously initiated, too ripe for exploitation (probably by our intelligence agencies).

    Unless somebody can stop the drills on December 12, 2010, we are going to war,and I’m not certain even our own current elected government is entirely opposed to that, simply because North Korea has done such a magnificent job of taunting the world simply because they have the bomb — and they are only building more and selling their weapons to terrorist states.

    My guess is that there will be strikes in the US promptly thereafter, (to tie in Iran and Pakistan and others with North Korea.), and Obama, or a leftover shadow government, will take swift retaliatory action. (For reasons that are too numerous to explain, I think that one of the primary “undisclosed locations” for the shadow government is at the SSC in Waxahachie Texas. I’m fairly certain their redundant DC tier four computer system launched that test missile on November 8, 2010)

    I am also fairly confident that China and Russia (outside of any shadow government agreement) have agreed w/the US to stay out of the way if the US makes limited retaliatory nuke strikes outside their boarders. The reason for this is that they understand that too may nukes will completely destroy the planet. The New World Order map becomes clear in a year or two.

    I’m putting this out to the universe, in case somebody can make the right contacts to stop the drills.

    For the record, I am not anti-Semitic.

  497. Gordon:

    I’m sure Jesse would write a few articles for V.T. on a multitude of subjects if you asked him.

    That would be cool, right?

  498. Michael:

    Jesse wrote a number of articles for the Huffington Post which were retracted. That should tell you something.


    Maybe he would like to write a couple of articles for V.T.?

  499. Dream on with your act of God scenario. Or your Let George Do It scenario. Your Anybody-But-Me scenario.

    In fact, if I were trying to soften Americans up and prevent resistance to my dictatorship, I’d say the same sort of thing you’re saying (Resistance is futile – put down your guns!).

    GodSend? What the hell does that mean? Are you a gift from Yahweh?

  500. Yep. Maybe the scariest part of all of this is that we have now bred 2-3 generations of young Americans since the sixties who have been trained never to think critically.

    It is rare to find anyone today who knows anything about the USS Liberty attack and its even more shameful cover up by the powers that be, save for us zealots who frequent these web sites. People believe that they are getting history lessons by watching cable TV “history” channels.

    The USS Liberty would be a good subject for Jesse’s show. I notice that someone suggested this on his forum a few weeks ago. After Googling, I found that he had hosted a meeting of USS Liberty survivors in Minnesota. So he is definitely walking on thin ice with all of this.

  501. diverted but always in motion,
    one great advantage , psychopaths can not trust the other psychopaths
    and they also know that the other psychopaths know that as well!

  502. An example of the reasons why I think so necessary to name Zionists as soon as we speak of 9/11.

    I did not know the video made in February “we, the people” :

    It has just been subtitled in french by two Zionist bloggers who make very bad job. Not very much seen, but the intention seems important :

    Zionists are very deeply inside ennemis, and outside too. Here the aim seems to tell people who speak french “look, BHO faces opposition in his country AND IS RESPONSIBLE for that”. They present the video without saying it is one of February (I thought it was a recent one) and write : “millions of Americans viewed it”

  503. We need to have a school here on overthrowing the government. Because that’s what we’re trying to do if we mess around with 9/11. Or the two Zionist wars we’re in. Or the BP blowout. Or JFK. You tell the truth about these and other subjects and you can get killed, so we need to know what we’re doing.

    There is such a thing as the division of labor. We are up against a huge, multi-faceted machine of lies and murder. We all need to do what we’re good at and each of us has a lot to offer, unlike anyone else. Don’t expect too much of others but rather push your own ability to the limit.

    There are two main ways to overthrow the government: by direct action and by propaganda and it’s usually done in combination. But those are the two necessary departments. I’m in the school of violent overthrow and I started a huge armed voluntary movement for that purpose that I called “the militia,” because of the deceptive wording of the 2nd Amendment. I didn’t care for the old name, but it was there for using and it had a tough ring to it. The militia was mentioned in both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, for the guys who needed a legalistic framework.

    The militia didn’t work out but it definitely delayed Oliver North’s plans until it could be neutralized by the feds at OKC. It was probably ahead of the power curve. All the muscle is still there, which just needs the proper information to get going for real next time.

    I just never dreamed that big-time truth could come out on national television. Anyone who thinks Jesse Ventura is a lightweight does not understand what he’s doing or how remarkable it is, which is overthrowing the government in the non-violent, propaganda method of using the system’s machinery against it. Of course, I figure all his information will lead guys to my proposal eventually, because where else can it lead? Where does the truth about capital crime lead? To the execution of the criminal – right?

    We need to do a couple of things: we need to appreciate what this very tough guy, Jesse Ventura, is doing, not just about 9/11 but several capital crimes, maybe the most terrible for us all being the deliberate BP blowout. The guy elicited an admission from the Army Corps of Engineers that they’re running a depopulation program in the Gulf states. That right there is capital, felony Treason that gets the death penalty.

    The other thing is not attack anyone who’s doing some good, even if it’s not exactly to your liking. This truth movement has got to grow up and learn some self-discipline. We’re not required to praise anyone but we are required not to put people down who are taking chances with their employment or retirement or their families or their own safety. The truth movement can be a deadly game. Ask Vince Foster or David Kelly or Deborah Jeane Palfrey or Pat Tillman. Well, you can’t ask them because they’re dead, along with dozens of others from the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama killers.

    It’s one thing to blog and complain. It’s quite another get in a lying psycho’s face, a lying psycho on the CIA payroll, on national television and accuse him of death-penalty crimes such as concentration camps and conspiracy to torture and murder.

    So, we make the contributions that we can, what we know and are good at. What we’re all doing is having an effect, a much bigger and faster effect than we probably ever dreamed. And we lighten up on our allies and those who could become allies. Hit hard but only at the bad guys.

  504. Christopher Bollyn trash talks


    By James P. Tucker Jr.

    International financiers are subtly pursuing their goal of global government, under cover of darkness. They plan to keep the world in a recession at least through 2011 so hungry people will accept world rule to avoid starvation. Their efforts are exposed in their own words, during unguarded moments. “If all goes according to plan, the UN Framework Commission Convention on Climate Change will establish a global framework,” the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post reported from a UN meeting in Cancun, Mexico Dec. 8.

    Post publishers have attended every secret Bilderberg meeting since the 1950s, on a promise to report nothing. Since 1954, the Bilderberg group, with the collaboration of the mainstream corporate media, has been meeting behind closed and heavily guarded doors, to make decisions affecting virtually everyone on Earth. “They are ripe for the harvest,” Brazilian climate official Sergio Serra said during the meeting in Mexico, referring to efforts to establish a global department of energy and climate under the UN.

  505. There is logic at this stage in not screaming Zionist plot.They want to be accused an fall back on the old victim strategy of, “see everyone hates us.” I think that Ventura and others are playing a smarter game by not blaming the Zionists.

    Cheney and Bush etc must be filling their underpants,since they are being set up to take all the blame.

    Create awareness first,then logic will lead all to the head of the snake.

  506. I agree with Nicole. The order for ‘something big’ came from the top of the Illuminati (Rothschild and the Crown). The details were worked out further down the ladder, and the ‘Governments’ of USA or Israel may take the rap.
    Why MSM now? Because all MSM was complicit in the broadcasting of the fraud, and the cover up. After 9 years of ‘radio silence’ on 911 Truth, they realize that their silence indicates guilt. Take the president of CNN (or FOX or BBC), arrest them, put them on trial:

    “who gave you the video that you broadcast?”
    “who told you that building 7 was down?”


  507. but it just shows you how hard it is for even suspicious people to think how evil Cheney

    Evil is too mild a term for that murdering, back-stabbing, thieving, lying psycho.

    For those who still insist it was a Boeing 757, go to the link below and you can see What Really Happened at the Pentagon on 9/11.

    There’s no way a plane the height of a 757 could have hit the Pentagon, not unless it dug a 10 foot deep, 1/4 mile long trench before hitting the place where those Army auditors were pouring over the books, trying to find where that ‘missing’ 2.3 trillion had MADOFF to.

    All the evidence they had collected and the info used to get that was blown to hell and gone, along with the auditors.

    757 vs the Pentagon

  508. How can American people every obtain a proper investigation, when the criminals took your money, and created a “System” to criminalize whistle blowers who reported their crimes? “The Perfect Crime.”

    The very system developed to protect your rights, was modified to remove your rights and protect criminal activity. And second stage of this operation, to eliminate all whistle blowers by use of monies stolen. Yes people, you were “robbed” by the last administration, but there’s so much smoke, you haven’t figured this out?

    As an executive, observed patterns and activities prior to 911, and people committing crimes and being protected from prosecution. One Attorney General, with knowledge of criminal activity would do nothing, and was later rewarded the position of Governor to keep mouth closed and “Not get involved”. And these relationships, will after 911, they simply chased in, they can be taken to trial. There was too much money and deals.

    Why this large terrorist database? Why Patriot Act? So people could be monitored who were aware of criminal activities. This was one reason, “If your not with me, then your against me, and all my corrupt partners.”

    People this was “Text Book” investigation, and “No” attempt was made to perform this investigation properly, and the reason is obvious? The benefactors and their early conception…early meetings…early activities…the relationships…and other international crimes and prolonged activities. All is obvious, when witnesses are given proper right to testify.

    Where is the FBI ? “We have to stop this investigation, because there’s too much business in this country”. This regards National Security, does this sound like the FBI was performing their sworn duties, but can’t perform their duties if high level official is telling them to stop. Because this could affect their holdings with another company for another deal made later.

    When FBI Agent tells you, the above statement, you know “high level” official in Washington made them stop, and when “Security Company” starts making threats to you, well this high level official can deny everything, can’t they?

    I know the FBI has good agents, but they haven’t completed their investigations, have they?

    Why are they watching whistle blowers being terminated? Or are the “real” whistle blowers considered terrorist now? The concept as planned, the “National Blacklist”, not terrorist database for those of you “Who never understood the concept”. Why isn’t your representatives saying much, because wealth can purchase lies, and stall the outcomes?

    Wikileaks is not “Real” whistle blower! Once again, change the attention of US people and buy more time. Yes people, there are still trying to mop up.

  509. as for diverting the future,it would be so Good to spare Iran, not that other Countries or Peoples are not deserving of the same consideration, it is just that it hasn’t happened yet and no need for it to be

  510. Back in 2001 $2.3 trillion was about $ 8,000 for every person in the USA.Now it would be worth $12,000 or $48,000 for every family of four.This money was not part of the usual Military budget which gets spent before new money is allocated.It had to come from an outside source and the Federal Reserve is the only institution capable of generating that amount of cash.

    Where did it go?

  511. Michael,
    I believe America was envisioned to be “Phoenixed” well before this time,so the future, as terrible as it has been for so many has been diverted

  512. Sure, following the “dots” points to the government. Where are the “dots” that implicate the Zionists? Until you show them, only a few people (probably just this group) will believe it.

    Of course, there’s still the crowd that says that whenever anybody complains about Obummer being Bush IV (Clinton was Bush II, GW was Bush III and Obummer is Bush IV) is “racist”.

  513. Michael J Volz,
    I have harped on about certain themes, however the Gov. is not wholly co-opted , if it was this Country would have been toasted by now, I was expecting 2004/2005 to be Nationwide “Snapcount”,
    I think it is significant that this much was put on the AIR!!

  514. GodSend,
    Christopher Bollyn is not right about everything!!
    and I see this release on nation wide IDIOT BOX as rather significant in of itself, don’t you?

  515. About 18 months ago I was talking to a young lady here in Germany about her holiday in Washington. She had visited her Aunt. I asked her if she worked. She replied that she worked at the Pentagon.

    Jokingly, and not expecting her to know anything about it, I asked her if they had found the missing trillions yet. To my surprise she started laughing and said that no, nobody knew what had happened to it.

    So they all know. All their family members know and probably a lot of their friends too. Everybody at the Washington Post and Times knows. Yet nothing is said. The hold these people have over what is said and printed is truly frightening.

    Ventura has got some of the truth out without mentioning the Israeli connection. This could be construed as suspicious but if Time Warner is the owner there is no chance at the moment of going down this road.

    The programme was clearly aimed at not especially intelligent people. It was rather sensationalist with almost as much music as talking. It may persuade them to research on the internet and when they do that they will start to connect the dots.

  516. JB,


  517. I also used to think Cheney’s order was a “stand down” order, but it just shows you how hard it is for even suspicious people to think how evil Cheney is. It was not an order to stand down, it was an order to fire the missile that struck the Pentagon just after the flyover. It was an order to kill people in the Pentagon.

  518. Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, $500,000,000 in bribes

    Where in the hell did they get that kind of money? From what was stolen from Americans by those “Too Big to Fail” Wall Street banks?

    100 TONS of Airliner Crash Into the Pentagon and all that is visible is some puny piece of twisted metal?


    There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a “missile”. …

    I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact – no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. … all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

    Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret)

    Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Parade Magazine October 12, 2001

    They [find a lot] and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it’s physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.

    “The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous…

    It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon.

    Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force

    Statement to this website 3/25/07: “After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

    We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

    Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force

    All quotes, except Rumsfeld’s, are from Patriots Question 9/11

  519. foo,
    a plane was flown over at that point in time for the (PURPOSE Of) so afterwards there would be reports,witnesses,some “tape’ to show the (PLANE) just before it hit the pentagon, which it didn’t.

    Like a nuke & thermite were both used at WTC,so investigations,analysis, “evidence” could be dismissed as contradictory instead of (complementary!!)

  520. I do not believe the next false flag attack will resemble 9/11. It’d be too obvious for one thing, and the putative Jihadists have been under surveillance since then. It may well involve implicating Iran according to the playbook of “plagues, famine, and war,” that is, a biological attack in one of its many possible forms as the pretext for war against Iran.

    I agree with the comment that it’s counterproductive to waste time with attacks on President Obama in this context, except to note the crescendo of accusations that he is soft on Islamic terrorism, which will be used to blame him and deflect criticism from those responsible. I’ve gotten suspicious enough to view the recent revelation of top secret information concerning lax security at Indian CBW labs, which but for propaganda purposes would never be leaked, as the first steps in planting a useful scenario in which the CBW agents are linked to Iran via an espionage ring in India.

  521. Your are correct Gordon. I’d love to have a beer with the guy to see what he really believes. At least he talks about Building 7 and might get some others thinking about it.

  522. “I don’t consider that the United States, United Kingdom and Israel are separate countries – they are one state in 3 locations.
    Ok, the creepy index just went up another notch,
    lots of creepiness about!!

  523. Excuse GORDON, but there is probably an accidental typing mistake because that was 2.3 TRILLIONS which Rumsfeld had declared as “disappeared”or “unaccounted for” the day before 9/11 by pentagon controlfer-accountant dual “master-race” citizen Dov Zakheim,like Chertoff who later smothered 9/11 investigation. This is on top of 1 TRILLION already missing + 15 TRILLION of disappeared WANTA-REAGAN-MITERRAND PROTOCOL FUNDS. AMERICA IS BANKRUPT OVER AND OVER AND THE 3000 YEAR OLD MAFIA IS FLUSH WITH ROBBED CASH TURNED TO GOLD TO BUY THE REST OF THE WORLD AT 2 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR AFTER RECESSION AND WORLD WAR 3 FOR THE MASTER-RACE TO RULE… THE AMERICAN DREAM: “IN AMERICA YOU ROB IT (BIG) ? : YOU KEEP IT! AND BOMB THE ARABS FOR IT!…” THAT “FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY” AND “THAT’S WHAT THEY HATE US FOR..” WHY NO INVESTIGATION? WHERE IS ZAKHEIM?

  524. It is more than a little surprising to even have this much on the
    “Glowing Box” which the People gaze at with adoration and rapt attention!!
    This means there really is many in the Government who do want to spill out this whole mess.

  525. Excuse GORDON, but there is probably an accidental typing mistake because that was 2.3 TRILLIONS which Rumsfeld had declared as “disappeared”or “unaccounted for” the day before 9/11 by pentagon controlfer-accountant dual “master-race” citizen Dov Zakheim,like Chertoff who later smothered 9/11 investigation. This is on top of 1 TRILLION already missing + 15 TRILLION of disappeared WANTA-REAGAN-MITERRAND PROTOCOL FUNDS. AMERICA IS BANKRUPT OVER AND OVER AND THE 3000 YEAR OLD MAFIA IS FLUSH WITH ROBBED CASH TURNED TO GOLD TO BUY THE REST OF THE WORLD AT 2 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR AFTER RECESSION AND WORLD WAR 3 FOR THE MASTER-RACE TO RULE… THE AMERICAN DREAM: “IN AMERICA YOU ROB IT (BIG) ? : YOU KEEP IT! AND BOMB THE ARABS FOR IT!…” THAT “FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY” AND “THAT’S WHAT THEY HATE US FOR..”

  526. well to close from xmas and reaching out so many people in so called mainstream media… somethin big is going to happen…. well we have the fake warning from iraqi puppets but … something big is on the way for this xmas…

  527. this winter everyone who can use firewood had better have some stacked up!!
    this winter global warming will be real,real,extra cold,
    Maybe the LITTLE GREEN MEN will reverse the weather,then again,probably not !

  528. Sorry, J.Bruce,

    I truly don’t think so. I agree with very many things I read from Gordon. Not even a critic, only a huge BRAVO, and do continue.

    Concerning Ventura, I don’t share your opinion, and I am surprised to read it. I do think this is a fault not to name Zionists, not to name Rothschilds. This is their game.

    I had an exchange on the pilots for 911 truth, months ago, in February, which frightened be. The man who answered me was part of the staff, and this is what he wrote :

    “I don’t consider that the United States, United Kingdom and Israel are separate countries – they are one state in 3 locations. Thus it isn’t a country being controlled by another country – it is just one agenda. And the agenda may even include the eventual destruction of one of the 3 “countries”. ”

    I did a PDF of the screen copies. I really was so chocked it is on my blog when you clic on Steve Ballmer image (it goes to a text I wrote on “evidence of Zionist plot”)

    In US you can speak of Zionism. I think France is under the same takeover, but very few people speak of it, and they play a bad game, many websites and blogs presenting them as anti-zionists, though they are Zionists.

    There is a huge necessity to connect facts with real truth, the most fully possible, not only part of the truth, but the whole of it we know for sure.

    Not to name is to open the door to intimidation.

  529. son of frank
    take what you can get….
    when and if jesse takes on the ‘dancing israeli’s…he can go there
    otherwise….he is intelligent to stick to the facts..
    remember..he has producers.

  530. Shakespeare was right when he said, the “world is a stage”, however, he forgot to mention that the “Jews are the stage managers”. Like it or not, this has been a reality.

  531. investigate & prosecute
    With Extreme Prejudice

    9/11 mass murder criminals
    and their cover-up enablers

    all 9/11 aircraft wreckage is very very secret
    aircraft parts must not be examined
    aircraft parts must not be seen
    very very secret

  532. I agree with the absolute need to name names : Zionists. Under the video, people write so : not even once “Dov Zakheim” name pronounced. No Larry Silverstein, no Zelikow, not even one Jew name.

    This does not help.

    I oppose since two years with in France because they are on the same line, but it seems to be part of the conspiracy to endly blame America. Too easy. claim “if you tell Zionists you damage the truth movement because people think it is antisemitism”. OK Since 9 years, did it help not to name Zionists ? I absolutely don’t think so.

    The first time I so Jesse Ventura, I did not appreciate at all because of the way he presents it “I am Jess Ventura” “Well, OK, I am Nicole G…and then ?”…he does put the accent the wrong way, and finally I think only people already opened to look after the truth can pick up elements they ignored. Others might reject, because of the kind of presentation.

    To my opinion, from now on, (in fact, there’s quite a time) we need to refuse to listen to people who present them as truth searchers and don’t name Zionists concerning 9/11.

  533. Jesse Ventura has to stay on the air but he’s taking it to the limit at this time. Appreciate his work and support it. Same with Duff.


  535. We all need to be big people, not little people. It is astonishing that anyone could find fault with Jesse Ventura’s contribution to the truth with his Pentagon 9/11 expose, which I found shocking and spine-tingling, not so much for the charges but for the fact he got it on national television.

    9/11 Truth is the most dangerous truth of all. It is the explosive that will bring down the government, as Gordon Duff suggests. It will destroy the Zionist grip on our lives and our bank accounts.

    Don’t find fault with ANYONE who is contributing to the truth. Find fault with ANYONE who gets in the way. If Jesse Ventura doesn’t mention Dov Zackheim or Israel in his 43 minute piece, appreciate that he goes after Cheney and Rumsfeld this time around, which is plenty daring in this Homeland Security whorehouse we live in. Show some gratitude that he goes into the lion’s den and confronts the liars in the Pentagon and 9/11 Commission. That is the proper procedure for waking up sleeping Americans. That’s how I’d do it, and no one hits Zionism harder.

    Jesse Ventura has to stay on the air but he’s taking it to the limit at this time. Appreciate his work and support it. Same with Duff.

  536. I’m suspicious of Ventura and anyone who gets access in the mass media .Good point.

    “our” government might not kill Americans (if it existed) but the jewish owned “American” government will do anything it pleases, including having the USA pay and fight three trillion dollar wars for israhell.

    WAKE UP!


  537. Top stooges like Dick Cheney would never have the courage or wits to act independently from anything in Washington, or Israel.

  538. panoptimist,

    You make a very important point. Don’t scapegoat the American People. Their main crimes are ignorance, cowardice and apathy, which have unfortunately HAVE been seeded and cultivated in them to a greater extent than would be otherwise, by the jew controlled/owned mass media.

    I do not agree that the Masons and real Christians are to blame.

    The murder,chaos and poverty we deal with is of the circle “U” variety. CREATED BY JEWISH SOCIO/PSYCHOPATHS AND THEIR GENTILE FLUNKIES WHEREVER THEY PLAN AND EXECUTE CRIME.










  540. No truer words written:

    When former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinsky cited Wikileaks on a PBS interview, televised nationally, that Wikileaks was the word of an intelligence agency, Israel never reported it or responded. Instead, they attributed Brzezinski’s quote to me:

    Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American. The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred.

    Even through the assaults on President Obama, many financed by the Koch brothers, tied to ultra-nationalists in Israel, whether there was a real change of government is not clear.

    What is “their” message? Certainly not “never again.” In fact we know that “again” is just around the corner, an Iran war with or without a new 9/11, planned and executed by the same folks, older, not wiser and certainly more pathologically insane and murderous.
    ..and we continue to allow it.

    Gordon Duff writes the truth.

    (And for all the wise-asses at Haaretz, guess what? Mr. Duff has a Jewish mama. Deal with it.)

  541. The audacity of this enormous lie is just staggering. The fact that they believed the truth could be bottled up from the annals of history and public scrutiny even more so. Once one connects the dots with 9-11 every single lie and oppressive backwards policy comes into clear focus, ranging from the patriot act to our never ending wars of aggression. These people must realize that if the majority of Americans wake up to these facts it could very well be the end of their tyranny over all of us. This leads me to think that as the facts come out more and more that there is most defintely an end game they have planned to stifle and crush any dissent that arises and challenges their twisted grip on our govt. They will not relinquish power willingly.

  542. Exactly. I think that Gordon Duff is giving Jesse way too much credit. For all of his “conspiracy theories” Jesse has never once mentioned the possible Israeli connections or foreknowledge, the “dancing Israelis”, the fact that Israeli companies had inside access to those airliners. He won’t go there. TruTV is owned by Time-Warner and to even dare to make such allegations would be impossible.

    But he didn’t “prove” anything in that show last night. It is an insult to my intelligence to have people on that show who claim that the airliner flew just over the Pentagon at the same moment that a missile struck. Please. And I wonder how much he paid that Pentagon worker. Saying that she didn’t “see” an airplane proves nothing.

    I still refuse to believe that our government willingly murdered all of those people and has managed to cover it up for almost ten years now.

    We should consider that perhaps Jesse himself is an agent of disinformation here.

  543. Although some consider it rude to post links, I think that the content justifies it. Two men have put together a video of interviews of people who were near the Pentagon, from the Citgo gas station to the back garbage area of the Pentagon. They all claim that the plane flew on the other side of the gas station, making it impossible for the plane to have hit the Pentagon.

    The guy who was on garbage detail says that he heard the first plane hit the Pentagon, and then he saw the second plane fly past the Pentagon! What he didn’t realize was that there was only one plane. He heard explosives go off, and then he saw the plane fly past.

    The video is 81 minutes in length. You can view it here:

    Here is the main Web page:

    And from here, you can download an ISO file for free and burn your own DVD, or you can order the DVD from them.

    This DVD deserves wide circulation. If you’re geek enough, download the ISO file and burn copies of the DVD to give away. If not, and you know how to dupe a DVD (it is not copy-protected) buy the DVD and make copies to give away. Or buy multiple copies to give away.

  544. I am so glad to see this stuff finally come to light….
    But this can only mean one thing IMO…..
    Israel will accelerate its plan to attack Iran….
    Their time is running out….

    Once again Gordon…..Great Job !!!

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