Gilad Atzmon: Let Us Talk About Jewishness

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Prof. Ruth Gavison

One of the main differences between my work and and the writings of other humanists within the peace movement is that I am willing to move beyond the political discussion — I dig into the ideological and philosophical roots of the Jewish state, Jewish politics and Jewish identity politics.  I look into the meaning of ‘Jewishness.’

In my work I clearly identify a continuum between Israel and ‘Jewish ideology’ (‘Jewishness’). And since Israel defines itself as the Jewish State, then surely –we must be brave enough to question what Jewishness stands for.

And clearly, Israelis are proud about their Jewishness — They are far from being shy about it all.

In the following video Judeo-Centric Israeli Law Professor Ruth Gavison spreads some Jewish Tribal ideas at AIPAC conference.

Ruth Gavison on Israel’s Future as a Jewish State-Shalom TV


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If you fail to understand what motivates the Israeli pilots  to drop bombs on civilians from aeroplanes decorated with Jewish symbols, law professor Gavison provides the answer;

“Israel will do whatever it takes to remain a Jewish state for as long as it takes.”

If you ask yourself, how  is it that 94% of  Israeli Jews supported the IDF genocidal measures at the time of Operation Cast Lead, then Gavison may have some insights to offer.

“The Jewishness of Israel is the meaning of which the state of Israel is enabling Jews for the first time in many years, to take control of all aspects of their lives”

They certainly do: Israeli brutality is beyond comparison.

Gavison concludes, “Israel is the place where Jewish and Hebrew culture is the majority culture; this is the meaning of the Jewishness of Israel”

We have to agree with the Law Professor —  Hebrew culture is, indeed, a majority culture in Israel — because the  indigenous people of the land  are locked behind walls in open air prisons.

If Israel is the meaning of Jewishness, and vice versa, Jews do have a serious ethical problem to deal with.  

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Gilad Atzmon
Gilad Atzmon is an Israeli-born British jazz saxophonist, novelist, political activist and writer. Atzmon's album Exile was BBC jazz album of the year in 2003. Playing over 100 dates a year,[4] he has been called "surely the hardest-gigging man in British jazz." His albums, of which he has recorded nine to date, often explore the music of the Middle East and political themes. He has described himself as a "devoted political artist." He supports the Palestinian right of return and the one-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. His criticisms of Zionism, Jewish identity, and Judaism, as well as his controversial views on The Holocaust and Jewish history have led to allegations of antisemitism from both Zionists and anti-Zionists. A profile in The Guardian in 2009 which described Atzmon as "one of London's finest saxophonists" stated: "It is Atzmon's blunt anti-Zionism rather than his music that has given him an international profile, particularly in the Arab world, where his essays are widely read." His new book The Wandering Who? is now availble at Amazon.com

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  1. Research completed. Zionism is a hoax/lie perpetrated on European Jews and the entire World by the Rothschild Counterfeiting Sabbatean Banksters.

  2. The Karaite Jews and Samaritan Jews are two Jewish groups that are mostly Old Testament Bible (TaNaKh) based. The Ethiopian Jews were also such, but the Rabbinic Talmudic Jews have somehow managed to convert them to their Rabbinic (Talmudic) Judaism in Israel. There has been some quarrels between Karaite Jews and Rabbinic Jews and the Nazis appeared to have somewhat more favored the Karaites and hated the Rabbanites, but this is something that is not discussed.

  3. I suggest you do your own research on the web. You’re more likely to get a more complete, well-rounded answer

  4. Israel is the only mid-east country with a vibrant economy and democratic government. One human being one vote does apply within the Jewish State of Israel. 20% of Israelis are Arabs. They serve in the Knesset, are government ministers and even serve in the Israel Supreme Court. Israel is the Nation State of the Jews. It cannot be that if a majority of its citizens are Arabs.

  5. Wow, that’s an amazing conclusion. Of course it’s built from a chain of completely made up “facts”. But, hey, that’s what this is all about. I won’t waste my time delineating facts, so here’s a link explaining the “diaspora”:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora

    Those of you aren’t completely bamboozled by the hogwash in these other comments may be interested in actual facts.

  6. True Torah Jews believe Israel is blasphemy and say State of Israel is illegitimate. As far as I can tell none actually have renounced the Talmud as Herman Wouk wrote “its the glue that holds the Jews together” & I may be sticking my head out here but to me in an instance like this its refering to the Zionists – although it could be all Jews as the Talmud is their written law (Mishna).

  7. Ashkenaz actually refers to Germans and not Jews. However, Ashkenazi Jews refers to Germanic Jewish tradition since it is believed that in parts of Europe (central, west, east and north) the Jews first settled in what is now Germany and then spread west, north and east. South Europe such as Spain, Italy and Greece are different and Jews settled there much earlier so that they are not all considered Ashkenazi. The Germans are considered to be Ashkenaz not Ashkenazi (Jews).

  8. Some think that they are more jewish than others because they are more talmudic than others and/or others because they are more zionistic than others and/or others because they are more materialistic than others. Since I don’t belong to any and/or all of these clubs maybe I am not considered truly jewish by the above club(s) members.

  9. Gilad Atzmon a great musician,intellect,writer,and humanitarian
    Keep going and thanks for your contributions to try and bridge some gaps.
    Good People are where you find them and that will always be true!
    To get through the next 50 years we will have to get through the next 5 years
    and your input as well as many others may help get us there.

  10. No surprise that any people who pretends they’re the chosen people[master race] will end by becoming fascistic and ruthlessly racist. THAT is the meaning of “Jewishness,” and it is there for the entire world to see.

    The creation of Israel will turn out to be the worst thing ever to happen to the Jewish people.

  11. .. and yet there is a way forward for Israel… one human being one vote, and equality for all…. not too much to ask is it?… actually it’s the starting point in many other countries.

  12. The Bible as well proves Ashkenaz are descendants of Japeth, not Shem so cannot be Semites.

    “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth;…the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz…” -Genesis 10:1-3

    Here are some other books besides Shlomo Sand’s on khazars:
    1. The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler*.
    2. The Jews of Khazaria by Kevin Alan Brook.
    3. The Kuzari and the Shap ing of Jewish Identity, 1167–1900 by Adam Shear .
    4. FACTS ARE FACTS by Benjamin H. Freedman

    *Arthur Koestler supposed committed suicide along with his wife shortly after his book was released in 1976. Obviously they cannot stand the truth about where their origins lie.

    Then there is the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia that links Ashkenazim with the Khazars:
    “The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz… in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim… About 92 percent of all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim”.

  13. Perhaps there will come a point when it will be less important to have a Jewish state but yet preserve Jewishness. Most of the free world follows that paradigm and it has served us well. We can be Americans yet, Muslims or Jews. Canadians yet, Hindus or Sikhs or Muslims or Jews. I am puzzled why it is so important to have a Jewish state for the sole purpose of preserving Jewishness. In the long run it will not work.
    http://sajepress.com

  14. Israel is a mean state. Their obnoxiousness is legendary. For them to think that they are the chosen people is laughable. The REAL Hebrews are in Ethiopia!

  15. “If Israel is the meaning of Jewishness, and vice versa, Jews do have a serious ethical problem to deal with”. — Gilad Atzmon

    Although the struggle against antisemitism (and of all other forms of racism) should never cease, the struggle against Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism … is now of equal or greater importance.” — Israel Shahak

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    Exposing and opposing such ideologies of chauvinism, exclusivism and supremacy amongst many Jewish extremists groups is not only a right but an obligation for any human who cares about morality, equality, social progress, human rights, justice and world peace.

    http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2010/04/worm-is-in-can_3716.html

    http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2010/10/behold-world-breaking-news.html
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  16. Bravo indeed, you’re on a role fella!

    At least Professor Ruth verifies the one thing lots of us have always suspected: There’s Jews and Humans, and the two should never, ever mix.

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