Time for Americans to Grow Up
by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
America has 28 million veterans, I am one of them, a combat Marine from Vietnam.
Some very unwholesome things were done by Americans in Vietnam.
These were not on the scale of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, but the “draftee” military was made up of soldiers who believed nothing they were told and left the military the first day possible, if not before.
Were there to be justice in the world I could have done 5 years in prison just for being involved in the war at all, though I think I behaved in a civilized manner toward the Vietnamese I didn’t kill.
Why would I say such a thing? For those unaware, most of the German army that surrendered at the end of World War II was systematically starved to death in concentration camps under the orders of General Eisenhower, or worked to death by the Russians.
Nearly 75% of the healthy POWs, the highest number of any World War II participant held by the allies, died.
Considering those kept in the US, Canada and Britain were treated well, that the majority of those who were in Europe died of exposure, starvation, thirst and disease at the hands of the allies, makes America much worse than even Japan.
A higher percentage of Germans died under American supervision than Americans who died on the Bataan Death March.
Also, we could take into consideration, let’s say, Dresden. It was a city with no factories, filled with refugees and yet we bombed it flat during the last days of the war, killing over 200,000, 100% of them civilians, all of it in no way contributing to anything but murder.
Why was this done? Don’t even begin to study history. World War II ended in 1940 secretly, kept alive only by Winston Churchill and whatever group had bought him off for years. Why say that? Declassified documents prove it.
Here is part of a follow-up piece by Jim W. Dean:
The close of WWII found the victorious Allies staging the Nuremberg trials and convicting the Nazi leadership of ‘waging an aggressive war’. Those who went to the gallows were a symbolic sacrifice, as millions of innocent victims were slaughtered after WWII, under Allied control.
German POWs found themselves a convenient substitute for the original plan for the mass murder of twenty million German civilians to ensure a peaceful co-existence with what remained of Germany afterwards.
Morganthau’s Treasury Department, heavily penetrated by Soviet Espionage via the likes of Harry Dexter White had proposed reducing Germany’s population by one third to a level that would not require food imports. Morganthau’s son later stated, protectively perhaps, that the plan had really been White’s.
This would eliminate Germany’s need to be an aggressive exporter to earn the needed foreign exchange.
To Morganthau and his fellow enlightened cohorts, killing off 20 million post war Germans through starvation would be a step forward toward world peace. I suspect our Founding Fathers would disagree.
Fast forward to 2011. Morganthaus still walk among us, re-encarnated in the form of the American NeoCons and their band of merry conspirators.
‘Waging an aggressive war’ seems to be an ‘in thing’ now with these folks and I do not perceive their having any fear of prosecution under the Nuremberg precedents.
You mean the whole war, all those battles, all of it a scam? Yup!
But we say, “Germany deserved it because of the gas chambers and the 6 million Jews they murdered.” Did they?
Here is a nasty fact. Hell, have a couple.
Most of the Jews who died in the holocaust were in Russian custody, over 4 million. Remember 1939? Russia took half of Poland, half of Czech and Russia held most of Europe’s Jews.
There is no evidence that any Jews under Russian control in 1939, over 4 million, ever fell into German hands, not a single one. In fact, the trainloads of Jews who were sent to labor camps went to the Urals to work for Stalin, not to Dachau.
“But I never heard that before.”
Here is a nasty fact. Were you to visit selected “death camps” where millions were killed by “Germans” and see the crematoriums, the gas chambers and smoke stacks, you will also find they were built by Stalin after the war to “demonstrate how the Germans did it.”
Of course, today most know Stalin was the worst mass murderer in history. Why would he build “demonstration gas chambers?”
The answer is simple, he killed the Jews and up to 55 million others, and not just during the war but both before and after.
The war, with the greatest mass murderer in world history as our ally, gave Stalin the chance to hang his crimes on others including some real whoppers about Russia.
Stalin has Germans murdering tens of millions of Russian civilians, the same civilians who welcomed them as conquerors, hundreds of thousands of which joined the German army to fight Russia.
Oh, they didn’t tell you that? You say that “now,” none of the stuff you see in movies makes any sense or that the narratives on those history documentaries now seem a bit fanciful? Really?
I am not making excuses for Germany killing partisans, executing them hundreds at a time but, let us remember the Katyn Massacre. I can’t even legally challenge that Germany killed 6 million Jews in gas chambers because doing so is a felony in many countries.
I can, however, say that Stalin killed at least 4 million Jews. If that means there were 4 million more Jews than anyone thought, call that a math problem.
The Russians claimed, until 1989, that Germany murdered tens of thousands of Polish military after conquering Poland in 1939.
As I put it, “In for a dime, in for a dollar.” The only mass graves found tied to a “holocaust” are Russian, not German. I am not making excuses for camps or claiming to know about things I never saw. On the other hand, remember when President Obama told us his uncle had liberated Auschwitz and then we found out he made it all up?
Almost every war story I have ever heard, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, were total lies. The truthful ones I got from good friends who told them with some reluctance. As for my own, I have folks around me who were with me in Vietnam.
If I started with a “hero story” they would laugh themselves to death.
Anyway, Katyn, the massacre, is real proof, bodies exhumed, lies for 50 years. living proof that everything we heard from Stalin’s Russia was a lie and that it was Soviet policy to murder any entire population that he saw as a potential problem.
“But this is what they say about Hitler?” Whatever is true about Hitler or not, were there to be a trial for “mass murderers,” our ally Stalin would hang first.
Many historians now say Winston Churchill would hang next to him. Troops who found in the Gallopoli campaign planned by Churchill in 1915, the First World War, would have no trouble believing that, not one bit.
Later we learned that Churchill took a very active part in starting World War II, in fact was hired to do so and paid very generously. This requires some reading, references supplied below, but explains why, at the end of the war, Churchill was thrown out of office.
Thus, of all the “facts” we base our beliefs on regarding World War II, the Katyn Massacre is the most important. It is the “smoking gun.”
Later, Russia admitted it had done it, killed them all and blamed it on Germany. Thus, we reiterate;
Russia killed tens of millions and blamed about half of them on Germany, including, not only Jews but millions of Russians, over half the population of the Ukraine which was systematically starved to death by Stalin.
Here is another fun factoid. At the end of World War II, the Soviets found 9000 American POWs in German camps in areas they liberated. What was done with the 9000 Americans?
They died in Siberia, our own ally, the one that built the smoke stacks at Buchenwald, the one that built the gas chambers there, sent the 9000 American POWs to Soviet gulags.
Not a single one came home.
Vietnam? Did you know that 1205 American POWs from Vietnam were sent to the Soviet Union by North Vietnam?
America officially learned of this in 1993 but later we learned that Nixon and Kissinger knew all along. President Clinton asked for their return and Russia spent months searching Siberia for signs of them later claiming they couldn’t be found.
Russia admitted it had them. Nixon and Kissinger were overheard on tapes talking about some of them, not all 1205, but several hundred they were aware were “shipped off” but never asked for.
Records of their transfer and interrogation were under the control of President Havel of what was then Czechoslovakia, a government friendly to the US.
We had a list of documents telling where they were sent, a list of witnesses who had handled the POWs and reports from General Senja, former Czech military chief and American Super-Spy, that thousands of POWs from Korea and Vietnam were in Russia.
Recovery plans were submitted including plans for document analysis, systematic “interviews” of those involved and an organized recovery effort. An odd coincidence, I was one of the authors of this plan, back during “another life.”
When the plan was refused without reason, Pentagon, State Department, Presidency, “ABC,” though evidence was ten times stronger than even those with mid level security clearances were ever able to learn, the entire affair was covered up and has remained so.
Everyone involved in covering for Russia, just as was done with the holocaust, as with the Ukraine, as with the murders of up to 8.5 million German civilians, another very real “holocaust” were “fast track” promoted and rewarded for their loyalty to Russia.
Why were so many Americans, why are so many Americans either loyal to Russia or loyal to Israel?
Another of these cases was in 1967 when the Israelis tried to board an American naval ship, the USS Liberty, with orders to execute the entire crew and blame Egypt. The crew fought them off, 179 of 204 crew members were killed or wounded.
A similar action was done in New York City, September 11, 2001, when 3 office buildings, two empty, filled with asbestos and over-insured, were destroyed killing thousands.
It is said airliners took them down but recent revelations show the planes said to have been involved were in the air, hundreds of miles away, radio and navigation online. Dr. James Fetzer will be submitting documentary evidence on this.
Another “not so big” secret is that America lost nuclear weapons off Somalia in 1991 when a B-52 went down. They were recovered by arms dealers from Zimbabwe and South Africa and taken inland to be put on the “open market” along with hundreds of old Soviet nukes we have all been told never existed.
These were hydrogen bombs, “big boys,” city killers and America went after them, through Somalia, through Mombasa, into Kenya and elsewhere. We were told they had eventually been tracked into Africa and American teams were sent in to look for them. Satellites had picked up signatures. This was 1998.
A previous recovery attempt in 1994 was unsuccessful. You know of that as “Blackhawk Down.” Another name is “Broken Arrow/Somalia.” The incident, which tries to depict elite Army Ranger and Delta Force groups as “UN Peacekeepers” has even now been relocated from Somalia by Wikipedia to Iraq.
When it came time for the 1998 recovery attempt, a “cover and deception” plan was invented. That involved the bombing of two American embassies by a mysterious terror group created for such a purpose.
It was named by the Americans who planned the operation “Al Qaeda,” and CIA asset, Osama bin Laden was said to be its leader. Of course, “Al Qaeda” never existed and bin Laden, who had recently been reassigned by the CIA, knew nothing of it.
Part of the fissionable material, in this case, the plutonium “pits” from one of the weapons, showed up in North Korea and was used in an unsuccessful attempt by them to simulate a nuclear explosion. It was a failure.
Soon after, the CIA asked General Musharraf of Pakistan to “encourage,” (read torture) A. Q. Khan to make statements taking responsibility for turning nuclear technology over to North Korea.
Of course, were anyone to want to know, a simple A- Bomb can be built out of $38 dollars of plumbing supplies and requires no “implosion” or advanced physics at all.
The problem is, most folks don’t have alot of 95% plus uranium 235 or plutonium around the house.
If you did, the kids could build a nuke that would work moderately well in less than 4 hours. All the stories about advanced physics, “implosion theory” and such is total bull. Early nukes would go off if you dropped them.
Eventually, in 2009, Korea simply bought one from Israel. That one worked, not that well, but it was less embarrassing than another failure, a handful of plutonium and an entire shipload of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
North Korea should have gone to Canada like Brazil did when they made their nukes. Oops, that never happened either and Canada, that very nice country to the north would never build nuclear weapons nor be the world’s largest violator of non-proliferation treaties.
Here is the public version of Canada’s secret nuclear program as seen on PBS. Even moderate research will lead to a trail of weapons grade fissionable material from Canada heading to some very unsuspected places. But, as there is no political reason to blame Canada for something, nothing to gain, Canada can do anything they want and do.
A bit ago, we began talking about Vietnam. Of the 2.9 million Americans that served in Vietnam, by standards of international law, almost all are subject to some prison time.
Thankfully, I guess, only about one in four survive and most of them are sick, actually almost all of them are sick. As for those who served, some “did” more than others. We would like to call them “leaders.”
Many are subject to longer sentences. One can make a reasonable case for President Kennedy being killed because he wanted to end the war before it began.
There are other reasons but this is one of them.
Considering today’s wars, now tens of thousands of suicides, 500,000 wounded and disabled, up to 10,000 combat dead added to the suicide number, what if we got the treatment we so love dishing out?
What if Americans were subject to the treatment we gave the Wehrmacht? Should Americans brought home from Iraq be sent to open air prison camps for years? Should all be questioned, leaders and “fanatics” singled out for years of prison?
We have records of war crimes that technically justify it. We can’t pretend it didn’t happen.
We can’t pretend that part of our official training didn’t include systematic psychological indoctrination on religious war, racism and conditioning to make brutality to innocent civilians seem commonplace and “less stressful.”
In fact, the Department of Defense hired “conservative think tanks” to advise our military training regimen on how to instill race and religious hatred into our military.
In fact, conditioning troops to kill Muslims because of their religion was the basis of America’s military experience during the Bush administration, from training to “pep talks” to carefully selected entertainment to the selected “information networks,” Fox with Limbaugh and Beck and the lunatic “Pentagon Channel” blithering.
Were the Nuremberg War Tribunal standards applied, everyone involved in this aspect alone, though civilians, would be subject to execution as though they were guilty of murder themselves.
In fact, the single most well known but ignored aspect of our current wars is that so many troops were involved in the random killing of civilians for no reason other than amusement that stories were no longer questioned or even deemed newsworthy.
As much of the world sees it, a discharge from the American military should come with a mandatory prison sentence of 5 to 8 years, even for non-combatants.
Ask around, see if I am making this up.
But then, these wars themselves weren’t American at all, as we no longer had an elected government to blame. Few remember that President Roosevelt tried to “stack the Supreme Court.”
He recognized that it was put into the constitution at the behest of Federalists working for the Rothschilds in London. American history is the history of “Federalism,” another word for British or “Rothschild” control versus Americanism, “no central bank” and “states rights.”
Those with PhD’s from the really good schools can explain the Supreme Court, the Electoral College and why the Senate was “chosen” and not elected until well into the 20th century. America was set up, after control was wrestled from the “founding fathers” to be a British colony again, run as a sort of dictatorship.
Study some American history, I suspect this explanation might fit a bit better than the continual excuses text book gurus try to pawn off on us.
Similarly, the Supreme Court wouldn’t have illegally intervened, a direct violation of our constitution, to appoint George W Bush president unless there was something afoot, which we now know as 9/11.
I am told every day this is a “conspiracy theory” much as with the sunrise and sunset, and the wars that seem to go on forever, more of my paranoid excesses.
How could a war last over a decade without a single shred of proof that anyone we are supposedly fighting was ever, in any way, involved in a threat to our country?
Did Afghanistan threaten to cut off our heroin supply? Is that why we are still there?
I promise not to discuss how drugs from Afghanistan have bought Americas congress, the money laundered through corporations that are now, another unconstitutional act by our supreme court, “actually living people.”
For a change of pace, we can do a bit of political comparison. Ron Paul has lots of tongues wagging, with millions of Zionist dollars spent to prove he is a “David Duke clone.”
Paul is frankly, an unknown. I hear him making some of the noises Ross Perot made years ago, “they” went after Perot also, if you remember. I don’t see signs of Perot’s charisma or intellect in Paul.
Paul has issued irregular threats to end the “special relationship” between Israel and the US.
Fact is, the current government of Israel is an enemy of the US while the Israeli people are split, about a third are pro-American and even American citizens and the rest are of differing opinions from “don’t care” to “I wish everyone there would simply die.”
For whatever reason, it is likely that Paul would remove “dual citizens” from defense decision making in the US and end military aid to Israel.
Why? It’s not my job to explain these things.
Used to be if you wanted to say something bad about someone, you called them “like Hitler” or a “Fascist.”
Remember my talk, oh so many paragraphs ago about Stalin?
Let’s talk “Fascism.”
Here is some context. A few months ago, Necon public relations firms were paid millions through Israeli “slush funds” (read “terrorist money”) to defend Gaddafi as the benevolent leader of all time.
By African standards, the Libyans lived better than the starving masses of Darfur and the Neocons made millions telling the world that.
I think Libyans live even better than Nigerians. Both nations have oil, both nations have corruption problems though Nigeria has nicer cities.
Problem is, Nigeria has 200 million people and Libya has, well, we don’t know because most people there are foreign workers.
I think Libya is smaller than Cleveland, population anyway.
Let’s talk Hitler.
I am eliminating out of varied reasons hundreds of pages of misrepresented American history, now glossed over in “revisionist” texts. We can talk about being mean to the “American Indians,” stealing land and worse, like “genocide worse”.
But we can’t talk much about the real depth of currency and banking scams and to what extent Americans fought for freedom at home only to end up dying on battlefields around the world not knowing they were there as defacto employees of powerful global banking institutions.
History has to be kept simple. Imagine George W Bush’s education, that kind of simple.
Before we jump to the “but he killed all the Jews” end of this, I suggest that one is overused. Some question its truth in that there has never been a document saying Hitler had anything to do with the holocaust.
Israel says Hitler gave out “verbal” orders only.
Only real history will give us the truth on this and scholars who study these things have been jailed.
Why? I am not answering that one either. Try your own deductive reasoning.
Ah, a “factoid.” Remember the “Afrika Korps?” You know, Rommel and those Germans trying to take the Suez Canal and gain control of Palestine.
You will love this and, worst of all, it is entirely true. Hitler cut a deal with Germany’s Zionists to conquer Palestine and set up a Jewish homeland there.
This is a mainstream news story worth watching. It simply tells you things were more complicated than people, especially Jews, were told.
The truth? Some Jews saw Hitler as a savior and Hitler would rather have had German Jews running the Middle East than France and Britain.
How does this fit into the “holocaust” or does it fit? I can’t get into “Dr. Peabody’s Wayback Machine” and find out the truth.
What I depend on is “history” which, as time goes on, has turned out to be largely communist propaganda taught to me in public schools that were supposed to teach me to hate communism.
This, in itself, confuses the hell out of me. I smell a plot and tend to see the hand of the Rockefeller Foundation behind it. “Things were not as they seemed,” the understatement of all time.
Well, anyway, back to Fascism. Why do I think it had gotten a bad rap?
Let’s take today and apply Adolf Hitler’s solutions. You will love this:
- Hiter nationalized the central bank, in a sense, eliminating the “Federal Reserve”
- Hitler began massive public works, building things for people, highways, parks, on a much larger scale than Roosevelt and the NRA (which the Supreme Court found “unconstitutional”)
- Hiter instituted wage and price controls, evening out wage differentiation between labor and management. When bonus time came, everyone was paid on a mandatory scale, not like is done in the US.
- Corporate profits had to be loaned to the government, initially at 6% interest then lowered to 4.5%.
- Summer camps were built for all kids, nutrition programs instituted, education was made mandatory at a time when in the US, only 10% graduated from high school
- Free national health insurance was instituted
- Manufacturing and jobs were kept in Germany and exports supported, underwritten by credit lines financed by corporate taxes
- Corporate profits quadrupled because of this while wages and standard of living went up 16%
- Simultaneously, Germany build the largest army in the world, perhaps not the best thing but, considering Stalin as a neighbor, perhaps understandable
- By 1938, there was a labor shortage in Germany while America and Britain were sinking in debt and deep in depression
- Germany had a generous social security retirement system
Now wait a minute, can this be true? Free medical care, no unemployment, cheap food, paid vacations at government built resorts.
When it came time for war, young Germans all had their teeth, were well nourished, could all read and were healthy. In Britain, over half were illiterate, most suffered from malnutrition, it was a nightmare.
Author/historian Len Deighton writes on this in Blood Tears and Folly. Consider reading it.
So, we damn Germany because of concentration camps, secret police, gas chambers and all those invasions.
But if we compare Fascism to whatever the hell it is we pretend to have in the US with NAFTA and drugs and prisons everywhere, you will find that American prisons are far beyond anything Germany had for concentration camps.
In fact, America today is far more comparable to Stalin’s Russia than Germany under Hitler.
Is this why all we hear about is war criminals and concentration camps? Are we trying to hide something?
Gordon Duff posted articles on VT from 2008 to 2022. He is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. A disabled veteran, he worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.
Gordon is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world’s largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.
Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world, and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than “several” countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist, and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.
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