Interview with Gordon Duff, VT Sr. Editor
What follows is an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Well how do you see this whole situation? On the one hand we see both Cameron and Obama coming out verbally condemning what is going on and said that they are going to stop it. On the other hand they are talking about airstrikes so far without putting troops on the air.
It appears to some that on the one hand that they are trying to show that they are against ISIL but in reality that that may not be the case. Your take.
Duff: I think you have got it exactly right. Kerry is not generally as irrational as Cameron and some others that the US is still publically very much behind overthrowing the government of Syria using force that the US is publically behind backing al-Qaeda affiliates and ISIL and al-Nusra are not only al-Qaeda affiliates they share membership.
There is no proven difference between them and between their goals even their membership and leadership are intermeshed entirely. And one is totally supported by the United States not just that. Kerry has also said he plans on upping support for al-Nusra, the ally of ISIL and in doing so increased the pressure on the Syrian government aiding ISIL and if you see where this is going, I cannot make sense of it, you cannot make sense of it, I do not see where anyone else can either.
Press TV: There are some analysts saying that all this is basically about making sure that the region just remains unstable, just creating, continuing a constant state of chaos that that actually is what the United States wants. How do you see that?
Duff: That is also correct. The US made the mistake during the Syrian conflict of burning up one of its cardboard cutout bogeymen. Al-Qaeda was always a creation of the United States. It was always part of the CIA. There was no terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. I still hear this. Any of us that works in intelligence, it drives us crazy hearing this kind of insanity.
When we began publically supporting al-Qaeda we lost the ability to run to the American people and point at them as a bogeyman. We had to invent another and we clearly invented this one. And no, they are not out of hand. They are doing exactly what the US government wants them do exactly what you described and the worst thing that can happen to the US government is to do something that would actually defeat ISIL.
I work with a group of military counter-terrorism experts. Defeating ISIL would take two weeks. They are in territory where we can block their communications, monitor them, block any move, cut off any resources, we can do it easily with their power alone. There would be nothing to beat them, nothing at all. There is no intent. Every word the US said is a lie.
Press TV: So then the next question would be why, why does Washington want this instability to continue to be the status quo in this region? What are they gaining from this?
Duff: People are making billions of dollars of armaments with providing cover for interference with governments throughout the area which some people mistakenly thought it was an Arab Spring. We now see it very differently. We are seeing a global aspect of the same struggle as it goes on into Ukraine as it heads into Africa. All of these things are related.
This instability is very much on the behalf of a wide group of industries, of secret societies to keep the world unstable, to certainly war against not just Islam. It is very much a war on behalf of the Haves against the Have Nots to keep the world enslaved and I know that has that anti-imperialist sound about it but it is very much accurate in this case. This is very much a war against the people of the world.
Press TV: Well how the people of the world defend themselves in this war? You said Haves against the Have Nots, what is the key because if what you are saying is true then basically the most powerful militaries are on their side, also the media is on their side so what would be the key to break this?
Duff: Well the problem we have is that by following the phony war on terror, by interdiction to third rate news organizations, gatekeepers, controlled news, by taking part in believing in the politics of NATO, the politics of the West certainly there are very few players left and among those are Putin and Russia, Iran is a player, Hamas and Hezbollah and past that the list gets very short.
The only hope we would have is to support a strengthened Non-Aligned Movement and reform in United Nations, demand reform in the United Nations and it is the only way we have to go and I am not optimistic about that.